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CanrCOt remember if this has come up, itrCOs kinda self inflicted really, with the increased power and US particularly lax regulation.

<https://www.pinkbike.com/news/new-jersey-e-bikes-riders-will-require-licence-registration-and-insurance-under-newly-signed-law.html>

Berm peak has number of videos on this, he was warning that this will
happen late last year, he does get it slightly wrong with EU/Uk bikes as
they are rated at nominal not max load.

<https://youtu.be/v_M3gMfK5B4?si=jumD6wDCJFUnof5a>

I generally go for the if it walks like a duck itrCOs a duck, so my friends E MTB it rides like a bike, he has to pedal and if off road he certainly has
to put in effort, and canrCOt just motor it up things, and equally itrCOs still liftable over fallen trees and so on!

Whereas the throttle stuff that canrCOt be meaningfully pedalled or
manoeuvred and motor up to 20/30mph thatrCOs moped by most reasonable definitions.

Poor law as it is, clamping down on advertising for stuff that isnrCOt legal
to use is probably a wise move, judging from the uk police social media the folks using such illegal e bikes arenrCOt aware that itrCOs not legal as they just bought it off Facebook etc.

Roger Merriman

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On 2/16/2026 4:44 PM, Roger Merriman wrote:

CanrCOt remember if this has come up, itrCOs kinda self inflicted really, with
the increased power and US particularly lax regulation.

<https://www.pinkbike.com/news/new-jersey-e-bikes-riders-will-require-licence-registration-and-insurance-under-newly-signed-law.html>

Berm peak has number of videos on this, he was warning that this will
happen late last year, he does get it slightly wrong with EU/Uk bikes as
they are rated at nominal not max load.

<https://youtu.be/v_M3gMfK5B4?si=jumD6wDCJFUnof5a>

I generally go for the if it walks like a duck itrCOs a duck, so my friends E MTB it rides like a bike, he has to pedal and if off road he certainly has
to put in effort, and canrCOt just motor it up things, and equally itrCOs still
liftable over fallen trees and so on!

Whereas the throttle stuff that canrCOt be meaningfully pedalled or manoeuvred and motor up to 20/30mph thatrCOs moped by most reasonable definitions.

Poor law as it is, clamping down on advertising for stuff that isnrCOt legal to use is probably a wise move, judging from the uk police social media the folks using such illegal e bikes arenrCOt aware that itrCOs not legal as they just bought it off Facebook etc.

Roger Merriman

Good analysis. Much the same happened with the moped craze
of the late 1970s.
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On 16 Feb 2026 22:44:26 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:

CanAt remember if this has come up, itAs kinda self inflicted really, with >the increased power and US particularly lax regulation.

<https://www.pinkbike.com/news/new-jersey-e-bikes-riders-will-require-licence-registration-and-insurance-under-newly-signed-law.html>

Berm peak has number of videos on this, he was warning that this will
happen late last year, he does get it slightly wrong with EU/Uk bikes as
they are rated at nominal not max load.

<https://youtu.be/v_M3gMfK5B4?si=jumD6wDCJFUnof5a>

I generally go for the if it walks like a duck itAs a duck, so my friends E >MTB it rides like a bike, he has to pedal and if off road he certainly has
to put in effort, and canAt just motor it up things, and equally itAs still >liftable over fallen trees and so on!

Whereas the throttle stuff that canAt be meaningfully pedalled or
manoeuvred and motor up to 20/30mph thatAs moped by most reasonable >definitions.

Poor law as it is, clamping down on advertising for stuff that isnAt legal
to use is probably a wise move, judging from the uk police social media the >folks using such illegal e bikes arenAt aware that itAs not legal as they >just bought it off Facebook etc.

Roger Merriman

Some of the electric vehicles I see on the bike trail doing 20+ MPH
don't even have pedals. There are electric scateboards, electric
scooters, electric 4 wheelers, even electric monocycles. I don't see
any effort to control things.

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C'est bon
Soloman
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Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

On 16 Feb 2026 22:44:26 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:

Can-At remember if this has come up, it-As kinda self inflicted really, with >> the increased power and US particularly lax regulation.

<https://www.pinkbike.com/news/new-jersey-e-bikes-riders-will-require-licence-registration-and-insurance-under-newly-signed-law.html>

Berm peak has number of videos on this, he was warning that this will
happen late last year, he does get it slightly wrong with EU/Uk bikes as
they are rated at nominal not max load.

<https://youtu.be/v_M3gMfK5B4?si=jumD6wDCJFUnof5a>

I generally go for the if it walks like a duck it-As a duck, so my friends E >> MTB it rides like a bike, he has to pedal and if off road he certainly has >> to put in effort, and can-At just motor it up things, and equally it-As still
liftable over fallen trees and so on!

Whereas the throttle stuff that can-At be meaningfully pedalled or
manoeuvred and motor up to 20/30mph that-As moped by most reasonable
definitions.

Poor law as it is, clamping down on advertising for stuff that isn-At legal >> to use is probably a wise move, judging from the uk police social media the >> folks using such illegal e bikes aren-At aware that it-As not legal as they >> just bought it off Facebook etc.

Roger Merriman

Some of the electric vehicles I see on the bike trail doing 20+ MPH
don't even have pedals. There are electric scateboards, electric
scooters, electric 4 wheelers, even electric monocycles. I don't see
any effort to control things.

--
C'est bon
Soloman

ItrCOs fairly difficult I believe for the average cop etc to differentiate as most/all of the e bikes classes the US states use allow throttles and thus takes a lot more effort to work out if something is wrong or not.

Number of stuff could be legal and managed, uk is at the moment drawing up plans to do this or at least from the mobility standpoint, at moment only
bikes can use a mandatory bike lane legally for example, canrCOt use it in a wheelchair or mobility scooter and so on.

As the law is decades old, and technology and the world has moved on.

Roger Merriman

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