• vertical true - seems to be tire/tube alone

    From legg@legg@nospam.magma.ca to rec.bicycles.tech on Sun Feb 15 17:02:47 2026
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    I've just replaced a front wheel inner tube.

    Replacement tube was bought on-site on the day (long story)

    Looks/feels like a 'flat' spot on the finished repair, with
    no sign of rim damage.

    It's a panaracer pasela PC 700x28C - a 'whitewall'.
    The 'wall' looks visibly shorter in the 'flat' region, which
    extends along a length corresponding to where the logo is
    impressed on one side of the tire. Wall depth shortening is
    more easily seen on the corresponding unmarked opposite wall.

    Didn't notice it before the tube was replaced. Am I just
    being oversensitive/ overcritical? It feels like I'm riding
    on road surface that was ineptly rolled.

    2yrs of use since tire installed without tube trouble in
    meantime.

    No amount of low-pressure massage or manipulation seems to
    get rid of it.

    Any suggestions?

    RL
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  • From legg@legg@nospam.magma.ca to rec.bicycles.tech on Sun Feb 15 20:31:42 2026
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    On Sun, 15 Feb 2026 16:41:20 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

    On 2/15/2026 4:02 PM, legg wrote:
    I've just replaced a front wheel inner tube.

    Replacement tube was bought on-site on the day (long story)

    Looks/feels like a 'flat' spot on the finished repair, with
    no sign of rim damage.

    It's a panaracer pasela PC 700x28C - a 'whitewall'.
    The 'wall' looks visibly shorter in the 'flat' region, which
    extends along a length corresponding to where the logo is
    impressed on one side of the tire. Wall depth shortening is
    more easily seen on the corresponding unmarked opposite wall.

    Didn't notice it before the tube was replaced. Am I just
    being oversensitive/ overcritical? It feels like I'm riding
    on road surface that was ineptly rolled.

    > 2yrs of use since tire installed without tube trouble in
    meantime.

    No amount of low-pressure massage or manipulation seems to
    get rid of it.

    Any suggestions?

    RL

    Yes.

    Spin the wheel and observe on both sides a raised molded
    line just above the brake track. It should be visible and
    roughly concentric all around. If that line disappears at
    some point(s), deflate your tire immediately and remount it.

    When a tire is uneven on the rim such that one part is low,
    that is, not entirely on the rim's seating lip, some other
    portion of the tire can (and they often do!) go sailing over
    the top of the rim.

    OTOH, if that molded line is uniform and visible all around
    it may well be that the colored portion of your sidewall is
    merely applied unevenly. Unaesthetic maybe but doesn't
    affect tire performance.

    Regarding 'low pressure manipulation', a short schpritz of
    spray wax inside the rim before mounting helps seating
    immensely and we use it here routinely. Not unlike the
    soapy water used for auto/motorcycle tire seating , just
    less messy. To pull up a low spot, air to about 3/4
    pressure and push hard while leaning the rim on a bench or
    similar. Tire/rim combinations s which are hard to seat need
    some pressure to lift the tire into place.

    video:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIfiFUSM7Ro

    Action starts at 3 minutes and although we prefer a
    different style tool, the problem and solution are shown.


    I disassembled it and cleaned the rim, trimmed loose stuff on the
    tire. Applied a hint of teflon lube to the inner ridge without
    much success.

    The best that physical manipulation seems to get is a reduced
    double dip.

    The original issue showed a 2.7mm difference in wall hight on
    both sides.

    That'a down to about 1.2mm in both dips - 4 places.

    Maybe when warmer weather gets here it'll pop back into position.

    RL
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  • From AMuzi@am@yellowjersey.org to rec.bicycles.tech on Sun Feb 15 19:41:23 2026
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    On 2/15/2026 7:31 PM, legg wrote:
    On Sun, 15 Feb 2026 16:41:20 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

    On 2/15/2026 4:02 PM, legg wrote:
    I've just replaced a front wheel inner tube.

    Replacement tube was bought on-site on the day (long story)

    Looks/feels like a 'flat' spot on the finished repair, with
    no sign of rim damage.

    It's a panaracer pasela PC 700x28C - a 'whitewall'.
    The 'wall' looks visibly shorter in the 'flat' region, which
    extends along a length corresponding to where the logo is
    impressed on one side of the tire. Wall depth shortening is
    more easily seen on the corresponding unmarked opposite wall.

    Didn't notice it before the tube was replaced. Am I just
    being oversensitive/ overcritical? It feels like I'm riding
    on road surface that was ineptly rolled.

    > 2yrs of use since tire installed without tube trouble in
    meantime.

    No amount of low-pressure massage or manipulation seems to
    get rid of it.

    Any suggestions?

    RL

    Yes.

    Spin the wheel and observe on both sides a raised molded
    line just above the brake track. It should be visible and
    roughly concentric all around. If that line disappears at
    some point(s), deflate your tire immediately and remount it.

    When a tire is uneven on the rim such that one part is low,
    that is, not entirely on the rim's seating lip, some other
    portion of the tire can (and they often do!) go sailing over
    the top of the rim.

    OTOH, if that molded line is uniform and visible all around
    it may well be that the colored portion of your sidewall is
    merely applied unevenly. Unaesthetic maybe but doesn't
    affect tire performance.

    Regarding 'low pressure manipulation', a short schpritz of
    spray wax inside the rim before mounting helps seating
    immensely and we use it here routinely. Not unlike the
    soapy water used for auto/motorcycle tire seating , just
    less messy. To pull up a low spot, air to about 3/4
    pressure and push hard while leaning the rim on a bench or
    similar. Tire/rim combinations s which are hard to seat need
    some pressure to lift the tire into place.

    video:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIfiFUSM7Ro

    Action starts at 3 minutes and although we prefer a
    different style tool, the problem and solution are shown.


    I disassembled it and cleaned the rim, trimmed loose stuff on the
    tire. Applied a hint of teflon lube to the inner ridge without
    much success.

    The best that physical manipulation seems to get is a reduced
    double dip.

    The original issue showed a 2.7mm difference in wall hight on
    both sides.

    That'a down to about 1.2mm in both dips - 4 places.

    Maybe when warmer weather gets here it'll pop back into position.

    RL

    As with Mr Kunich's recent tire problem, ensure the rim
    liner is not overly thick or off center. And pick up a can
    of Pledge.
    --
    Andrew Muzi
    am@yellowjersey.org
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971
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