• Catrike 559

    From Mark J cleary@mcleary08@comcast.net to rec.bicycles.tech on Wed Feb 11 16:26:17 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    Someone near me has Catrike 559 for sale for $3000 claims they had it
    about a year with 1000 miles tops. I believe this due to Strava
    information without going farther. I message the guy to see my question.

    Given my crash history and I don't want to ride outside anymore due to possibly going down. Will a Catrike actually be much better at keeping
    me safe at least concerning crashes. The obvious to me is yes but of
    course cars and all the other stuff still are in the mix. Give me a run
    down on what you think and how many of you have road a Trike like this?
    --
    Deacon Mark

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  • From Catrike Ryder@Soloman@old.bikers.org to rec.bicycles.tech on Wed Feb 11 17:50:55 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    On Wed, 11 Feb 2026 16:26:17 -0600, Mark J cleary
    <mcleary08@comcast.net> wrote:

    Someone near me has Catrike 559 for sale for $3000 claims they had it
    about a year with 1000 miles tops. I believe this due to Strava
    information without going farther. I message the guy to see my question.

    Given my crash history and I don't want to ride outside anymore due to >possibly going down. Will a Catrike actually be much better at keeping
    me safe at least concerning crashes. The obvious to me is yes but of
    course cars and all the other stuff still are in the mix. Give me a run
    down on what you think and how many of you have road a Trike like this?

    The 559 is similar to my Expedition in size and performance, but it
    has an adjustable seatback and can fold up. With reasonable care, you
    will not tip it over, although leaning the wrong way when you turn,
    can tip it over. I have lifted the outside wheel just for fun, but
    have never gone over.

    Braking at very high speed can be a concern because it lightens the
    rear. If you don't brake the front evenly, the lightened rear end can
    come around with serious results. I've heard of that happening, but
    I've never experienced it.

    I have mentioned here about the potential problem of riding without
    being clipped in or otherwise preventing a foot to slip off the pedal
    and being run over by the crossbar.

    I have 40 K miles on my catrike and have never had an accident, but I
    almost always ride on bike trails. Many people are concerned about
    being to low to be seen by cars, and they add a flag. I'm not one of
    those people.

    FWIW, they are $4050 new.

    https://www.catrike.com/559

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman
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  • From Roger Merriman@roger@sarlet.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Wed Feb 11 22:56:20 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    Mark J cleary <mcleary08@comcast.net> wrote:
    Someone near me has Catrike 559 for sale for $3000 claims they had it
    about a year with 1000 miles tops. I believe this due to Strava
    information without going farther. I message the guy to see my question.

    Given my crash history and I don't want to ride outside anymore due to possibly going down. Will a Catrike actually be much better at keeping
    me safe at least concerning crashes. The obvious to me is yes but of
    course cars and all the other stuff still are in the mix. Give me a run
    down on what you think and how many of you have road a Trike like this?

    Clearly itrCOs going to be difficult though not impossible to turn over,
    while risks from motor vehicles are not uniform across age and usage even
    in the US while maybe higher risk than where I am, itrCOs not high if that makes sense.

    Folks I know with recumbents say in general the rCLwhat is that?rCY Means they donrCOt feel that traffic hasnrCOt noticed them.

    Could you find a friend or family to help you get riding again, I think a
    few of us have had fairly serious injuries and started riding again. And possibly suggest maybe tweaks to your bien setup to make you feel more comfortable?

    Roger Merriman


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  • From Mark J cleary@mcleary08@comcast.net to rec.bicycles.tech on Wed Feb 11 16:59:42 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    On 2/11/2026 4:50 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
    On Wed, 11 Feb 2026 16:26:17 -0600, Mark J cleary
    <mcleary08@comcast.net> wrote:

    Someone near me has Catrike 559 for sale for $3000 claims they had it
    about a year with 1000 miles tops. I believe this due to Strava
    information without going farther. I message the guy to see my question.

    Given my crash history and I don't want to ride outside anymore due to
    possibly going down. Will a Catrike actually be much better at keeping
    me safe at least concerning crashes. The obvious to me is yes but of
    course cars and all the other stuff still are in the mix. Give me a run
    down on what you think and how many of you have road a Trike like this?

    The 559 is similar to my Expedition in size and performance, but it
    has an adjustable seatback and can fold up. With reasonable care, you
    will not tip it over, although leaning the wrong way when you turn,
    can tip it over. I have lifted the outside wheel just for fun, but
    have never gone over.

    Braking at very high speed can be a concern because it lightens the
    rear. If you don't brake the front evenly, the lightened rear end can
    come around with serious results. I've heard of that happening, but
    I've never experienced it.

    I have mentioned here about the potential problem of riding without
    being clipped in or otherwise preventing a foot to slip off the pedal
    and being run over by the crossbar.

    I have 40 K miles on my catrike and have never had an accident, but I
    almost always ride on bike trails. Many people are concerned about
    being to low to be seen by cars, and they add a flag. I'm not one of
    those people.

    FWIW, they are $4050 new.

    https://www.catrike.com/559

    --
    C'est bon
    SolomanD

    Do you wear clipped in shoes? I have shimano road shoes are these ok or
    are you staying not clipped in is better?
    --
    Deacon Mark
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  • From Mark J cleary@mcleary08@comcast.net to rec.bicycles.tech on Wed Feb 11 17:02:08 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    On 2/11/2026 4:56 PM, Roger Merriman wrote:
    Mark J cleary <mcleary08@comcast.net> wrote:
    Someone near me has Catrike 559 for sale for $3000 claims they had it
    about a year with 1000 miles tops. I believe this due to Strava
    information without going farther. I message the guy to see my question.

    Given my crash history and I don't want to ride outside anymore due to
    possibly going down. Will a Catrike actually be much better at keeping
    me safe at least concerning crashes. The obvious to me is yes but of
    course cars and all the other stuff still are in the mix. Give me a run
    down on what you think and how many of you have road a Trike like this?

    Clearly itrCOs going to be difficult though not impossible to turn over, while risks from motor vehicles are not uniform across age and usage even
    in the US while maybe higher risk than where I am, itrCOs not high if that makes sense.

    Folks I know with recumbents say in general the rCLwhat is that?rCY Means they
    donrCOt feel that traffic hasnrCOt noticed them.

    Could you find a friend or family to help you get riding again, I think a
    few of us have had fairly serious injuries and started riding again. And possibly suggest maybe tweaks to your bien setup to make you feel more comfortable?

    Roger Merriman


    It is not about comfort at all it is about safety. I don't want to go
    down again on a 2 wheel bike. Seems the catrike makes that almost
    impossible.
    --
    Deacon Mark
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  • From Catrike Ryder@Soloman@old.bikers.org to rec.bicycles.tech on Wed Feb 11 18:15:50 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    On Wed, 11 Feb 2026 16:59:42 -0600, Mark J cleary
    <mcleary08@comcast.net> wrote:

    On 2/11/2026 4:50 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
    On Wed, 11 Feb 2026 16:26:17 -0600, Mark J cleary
    <mcleary08@comcast.net> wrote:

    Someone near me has Catrike 559 for sale for $3000 claims they had it
    about a year with 1000 miles tops. I believe this due to Strava
    information without going farther. I message the guy to see my question. >>>
    Given my crash history and I don't want to ride outside anymore due to
    possibly going down. Will a Catrike actually be much better at keeping
    me safe at least concerning crashes. The obvious to me is yes but of
    course cars and all the other stuff still are in the mix. Give me a run
    down on what you think and how many of you have road a Trike like this?

    The 559 is similar to my Expedition in size and performance, but it
    has an adjustable seatback and can fold up. With reasonable care, you
    will not tip it over, although leaning the wrong way when you turn,
    can tip it over. I have lifted the outside wheel just for fun, but
    have never gone over.

    Braking at very high speed can be a concern because it lightens the
    rear. If you don't brake the front evenly, the lightened rear end can
    come around with serious results. I've heard of that happening, but
    I've never experienced it.

    I have mentioned here about the potential problem of riding without
    being clipped in or otherwise preventing a foot to slip off the pedal
    and being run over by the crossbar.

    I have 40 K miles on my catrike and have never had an accident, but I
    almost always ride on bike trails. Many people are concerned about
    being to low to be seen by cars, and they add a flag. I'm not one of
    those people.

    FWIW, they are $4050 new.

    https://www.catrike.com/559

    --
    C'est bon
    SolomanD

    Do you wear clipped in shoes? I have shimano road shoes are these ok or
    are you staying not clipped in is better?

    For years I wore SPDs, but my Neuropathy became a problem and I
    switched to these.

    https://hostelshoppe.com/collections/pedals/products/terratrike-heel-support-pedals-w-straps-pair

    Years ago, I tried road shoes and clips and they worked fine, but I
    couldn't walk in them and went back to the SPDs.

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman
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  • From Roger Merriman@roger@sarlet.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Thu Feb 12 09:26:30 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    Mark J cleary <mcleary08@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 2/11/2026 4:56 PM, Roger Merriman wrote:
    Mark J cleary <mcleary08@comcast.net> wrote:
    Someone near me has Catrike 559 for sale for $3000 claims they had it
    about a year with 1000 miles tops. I believe this due to Strava
    information without going farther. I message the guy to see my question. >>>
    Given my crash history and I don't want to ride outside anymore due to
    possibly going down. Will a Catrike actually be much better at keeping
    me safe at least concerning crashes. The obvious to me is yes but of
    course cars and all the other stuff still are in the mix. Give me a run
    down on what you think and how many of you have road a Trike like this?

    Clearly itrCOs going to be difficult though not impossible to turn over,
    while risks from motor vehicles are not uniform across age and usage even
    in the US while maybe higher risk than where I am, itrCOs not high if that >> makes sense.

    Folks I know with recumbents say in general the rCLwhat is that?rCY Means they
    donrCOt feel that traffic hasnrCOt noticed them.

    Could you find a friend or family to help you get riding again, I think a
    few of us have had fairly serious injuries and started riding again. And
    possibly suggest maybe tweaks to your bien setup to make you feel more
    comfortable?

    Roger Merriman


    It is not about comfort at all it is about safety. I don't want to go
    down again on a 2 wheel bike. Seems the catrike makes that almost impossible.

    I shouldrCOve been clearer by comfortable I meant essentially not worried, ie bikes with less racy geometry and wider tyres give much more margins or
    error, hence my wife called my old MTB that IrCOd convert into a commuter the rCLComfort BikerCY as it is unbothered by any potholes and other lumps and bumps, nor wet slippery surfaces.

    Note what Catrike is talking about is the is a risk of getting your foot tangled with the pedals if your foot isnrCOt attached to the pedals hence clipping in being wise.

    Roger Merriman

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  • From zen cycle@funkmasterxx@hotmail.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Thu Feb 12 06:01:00 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    On 2/11/2026 5:26 PM, Mark J cleary wrote:
    Someone near me has Catrike 559 for sale for $3000 claims they had it
    about a year with 1000 miles tops. I believe this due to Strava
    information without going farther. I message the guy to see my question.

    Given my crash history and I don't want to ride outside anymore due to possibly going down. Will a Catrike actually be much better at keeping
    me safe at least concerning crashes. The obvious to me is yes but of
    course cars and all the other stuff still are in the mix. Give me a run
    down on what you think and how many of you have road a Trike like this?

    They ride quite abit lower to the ground. Yes much more stable, but it
    seems to me the big drawback is visibility because your ass is only
    about a foot or so above the pavement. Unless you're riding on
    segregated paths (rail trails etc) you're basically invisible if
    something as small as a toyota prius is in the way, and the tricycle has
    a much wider 'footprint' - it will stick out further into the roadway.

    So yes, a lot harder to crash due to poor handling on the riders part
    but much less visible _and_ takes up more space on the road. If you have
    an extensive rail trail network around you like they do in floriduh, it doesn't seem like a bad idea. However if you have to stick to public
    roads, you might want to attach a beacon lamp to a 6 foot pole

    https://yidabestqrs.click/product_details/95656823.html


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  • From AMuzi@am@yellowjersey.org to rec.bicycles.tech on Thu Feb 12 07:45:41 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    On 2/12/2026 3:26 AM, Roger Merriman wrote:
    Mark J cleary <mcleary08@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 2/11/2026 4:56 PM, Roger Merriman wrote:
    Mark J cleary <mcleary08@comcast.net> wrote:
    Someone near me has Catrike 559 for sale for $3000 claims they had it
    about a year with 1000 miles tops. I believe this due to Strava
    information without going farther. I message the guy to see my question. >>>>
    Given my crash history and I don't want to ride outside anymore due to >>>> possibly going down. Will a Catrike actually be much better at keeping >>>> me safe at least concerning crashes. The obvious to me is yes but of
    course cars and all the other stuff still are in the mix. Give me a run >>>> down on what you think and how many of you have road a Trike like this? >>>
    Clearly itrCOs going to be difficult though not impossible to turn over, >>> while risks from motor vehicles are not uniform across age and usage even >>> in the US while maybe higher risk than where I am, itrCOs not high if that >>> makes sense.

    Folks I know with recumbents say in general the rCLwhat is that?rCY Means they
    donrCOt feel that traffic hasnrCOt noticed them.

    Could you find a friend or family to help you get riding again, I think a >>> few of us have had fairly serious injuries and started riding again. And >>> possibly suggest maybe tweaks to your bien setup to make you feel more
    comfortable?

    Roger Merriman


    It is not about comfort at all it is about safety. I don't want to go
    down again on a 2 wheel bike. Seems the catrike makes that almost
    impossible.

    I shouldrCOve been clearer by comfortable I meant essentially not worried, ie bikes with less racy geometry and wider tyres give much more margins or error, hence my wife called my old MTB that IrCOd convert into a commuter the rCLComfort BikerCY as it is unbothered by any potholes and other lumps and bumps, nor wet slippery surfaces.

    Note what Catrike is talking about is the is a risk of getting your foot tangled with the pedals if your foot isnrCOt attached to the pedals hence clipping in being wise.

    Roger Merriman


    The risk is real but it is not 'foot tangled with the
    pedals'. It's a broken leg from being wrenched under the
    machine when a foot strikes the pavement.
    --
    Andrew Muzi
    am@yellowjersey.org
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971
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  • From AMuzi@am@yellowjersey.org to rec.bicycles.tech on Thu Feb 12 07:47:35 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    On 2/12/2026 5:01 AM, zen cycle wrote:
    On 2/11/2026 5:26 PM, Mark J cleary wrote:
    Someone near me has Catrike 559 for sale for $3000 claims
    they had it about a year with 1000 miles tops. I believe
    this due to Strava information without going farther. I
    message the guy to see my question.

    Given my crash history and I don't want to ride outside
    anymore due to possibly going down. Will a Catrike
    actually be much better at keeping me safe at least
    concerning crashes. The obvious to me is yes but of course
    cars and all the other stuff still are in the mix. Give me
    a run down on what you think and how many of you have road
    a Trike like this?

    They ride quite abit lower to the ground. Yes much more
    stable, but it seems to me the big drawback is visibility
    because your ass is only about a foot or so above the
    pavement. Unless you're riding on segregated paths (rail
    trails etc) you're basically invisible if something as small
    as a toyota prius is in the way, and the tricycle has a much
    wider 'footprint' - it will stick out further into the roadway.

    So yes, a lot harder to crash due to poor handling on the
    riders part but much less visible _and_ takes up more space
    on the road. If you have an extensive rail trail network
    around you like they do in floriduh, it doesn't seem like a
    bad idea. However if you have to stick to public roads, you
    might want to attach a beacon lamp to a 6 foot pole

    https://yidabestqrs.click/product_details/95656823.html



    Indeed, high-visibilty flags don't sell well nowadays as
    super bright red flashing LED lights are clearly better.
    --
    Andrew Muzi
    am@yellowjersey.org
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971
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  • From Roger Merriman@roger@sarlet.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Thu Feb 12 14:51:57 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
    On 2/12/2026 5:01 AM, zen cycle wrote:
    On 2/11/2026 5:26 PM, Mark J cleary wrote:
    Someone near me has Catrike 559 for sale for $3000 claims
    they had it about a year with 1000 miles tops. I believe
    this due to Strava information without going farther. I
    message the guy to see my question.

    Given my crash history and I don't want to ride outside
    anymore due to possibly going down. Will a Catrike
    actually be much better at keeping me safe at least
    concerning crashes. The obvious to me is yes but of course
    cars and all the other stuff still are in the mix. Give me
    a run down on what you think and how many of you have road
    a Trike like this?

    They ride quite abit lower to the ground. Yes much more
    stable, but it seems to me the big drawback is visibility
    because your ass is only about a foot or so above the
    pavement. Unless you're riding on segregated paths (rail
    trails etc) you're basically invisible if something as small
    as a toyota prius is in the way, and the tricycle has a much
    wider 'footprint' - it will stick out further into the roadway.

    So yes, a lot harder to crash due to poor handling on the
    riders part but much less visible _and_ takes up more space
    on the road. If you have an extensive rail trail network
    around you like they do in floriduh, it doesn't seem like a
    bad idea. However if you have to stick to public roads, you
    might want to attach a beacon lamp to a 6 foot pole

    https://yidabestqrs.click/product_details/95656823.html



    Indeed, high-visibilty flags don't sell well nowadays as
    super bright red flashing LED lights are clearly better.

    The folks I know who have such bikes or trikes really tend to say that it
    draws attention as even in london with all sorts of odd things out about, recumbents do get noticed, no flag needed.

    Roger Merriman

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  • From Rolf Mantel@news@hartig-mantel.de to rec.bicycles.tech on Thu Feb 12 16:15:02 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    Am 12.02.2026 um 15:51 schrieb Roger Merriman:
    AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
    On 2/12/2026 5:01 AM, zen cycle wrote:
    On 2/11/2026 5:26 PM, Mark J cleary wrote:
    Someone near me has Catrike 559 for sale for $3000 claims
    they had it about a year with 1000 miles tops. I believe
    this due to Strava information without going farther. I
    message the guy to see my question.

    Given my crash history and I don't want to ride outside
    anymore due to possibly going down. Will a Catrike
    actually be much better at keeping me safe at least
    concerning crashes. The obvious to me is yes but of course
    cars and all the other stuff still are in the mix. Give me
    a run down on what you think and how many of you have road
    a Trike like this?

    They ride quite abit lower to the ground. Yes much more
    stable, but it seems to me the big drawback is visibility
    because your ass is only about a foot or so above the
    pavement. Unless you're riding on segregated paths (rail
    trails etc) you're basically invisible if something as small
    as a toyota prius is in the way, and the tricycle has a much
    wider 'footprint' - it will stick out further into the roadway.

    So yes, a lot harder to crash due to poor handling on the
    riders part but much less visible _and_ takes up more space
    on the road. If you have an extensive rail trail network
    around you like they do in floriduh, it doesn't seem like a
    bad idea. However if you have to stick to public roads, you
    might want to attach a beacon lamp to a 6 foot pole

    https://yidabestqrs.click/product_details/95656823.html



    Indeed, high-visibilty flags don't sell well nowadays as
    super bright red flashing LED lights are clearly better.

    The folks I know who have such bikes or trikes really tend to say that it draws attention as even in london with all sorts of odd things out about, recumbents do get noticed, no flag needed.

    The only situation where I felt a flag might be useful was going uphill
    on a multi-lane road. A car behind me might hide me from the following traffic, the second car might overtake the car that is unreasonably slow
    to then turn out into the next exit.

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  • From Catrike Ryder@Soloman@old.bikers.org to rec.bicycles.tech on Thu Feb 12 14:24:56 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    On Thu, 12 Feb 2026 07:45:41 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

    On 2/12/2026 3:26 AM, Roger Merriman wrote:
    Mark J cleary <mcleary08@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 2/11/2026 4:56 PM, Roger Merriman wrote:
    Mark J cleary <mcleary08@comcast.net> wrote:
    Someone near me has Catrike 559 for sale for $3000 claims they had it >>>>> about a year with 1000 miles tops. I believe this due to Strava
    information without going farther. I message the guy to see my question. >>>>>
    Given my crash history and I don't want to ride outside anymore due to >>>>> possibly going down. Will a Catrike actually be much better at keeping >>>>> me safe at least concerning crashes. The obvious to me is yes but of >>>>> course cars and all the other stuff still are in the mix. Give me a run >>>>> down on what you think and how many of you have road a Trike like this? >>>>
    Clearly itAs going to be difficult though not impossible to turn over, >>>> while risks from motor vehicles are not uniform across age and usage even >>>> in the US while maybe higher risk than where I am, itAs not high if that >>>> makes sense.

    Folks I know with recumbents say in general the owhat is that?o Means they >>>> donAt feel that traffic hasnAt noticed them.

    Could you find a friend or family to help you get riding again, I think a >>>> few of us have had fairly serious injuries and started riding again. And >>>> possibly suggest maybe tweaks to your bien setup to make you feel more >>>> comfortable?

    Roger Merriman


    It is not about comfort at all it is about safety. I don't want to go
    down again on a 2 wheel bike. Seems the catrike makes that almost
    impossible.

    I shouldAve been clearer by comfortable I meant essentially not worried, ie >> bikes with less racy geometry and wider tyres give much more margins or
    error, hence my wife called my old MTB that IAd convert into a commuter the >> oComfort Bikeo as it is unbothered by any potholes and other lumps and
    bumps, nor wet slippery surfaces.

    Note what Catrike is talking about is the is a risk of getting your foot
    tangled with the pedals if your foot isnAt attached to the pedals hence
    clipping in being wise.

    Roger Merriman


    The risk is real but it is not 'foot tangled with the
    pedals'. It's a broken leg from being wrenched under the
    machine when a foot strikes the pavement.

    +1

    My wife got a nasty bruise from not heeding my caution about that. She
    was lucky in that the bump that caused her foot to drop down off the
    pedal came from dropping down off the road surface after a slow speed
    highway crossing. Had she been going at speed, it would have been much
    worse. From then on she always clipped in.

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman
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  • From Catrike Ryder@Soloman@old.bikers.org to rec.bicycles.tech on Thu Feb 12 14:35:09 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    On 12 Feb 2026 14:51:57 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:

    AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
    On 2/12/2026 5:01 AM, zen cycle wrote:
    On 2/11/2026 5:26 PM, Mark J cleary wrote:
    Someone near me has Catrike 559 for sale for $3000 claims
    they had it about a year with 1000 miles tops. I believe
    this due to Strava information without going farther. I
    message the guy to see my question.

    Given my crash history and I don't want to ride outside
    anymore due to possibly going down. Will a Catrike
    actually be much better at keeping me safe at least
    concerning crashes. The obvious to me is yes but of course
    cars and all the other stuff still are in the mix. Give me
    a run down on what you think and how many of you have road
    a Trike like this?

    They ride quite abit lower to the ground. Yes much more
    stable, but it seems to me the big drawback is visibility
    because your ass is only about a foot or so above the
    pavement. Unless you're riding on segregated paths (rail
    trails etc) you're basically invisible if something as small
    as a toyota prius is in the way, and the tricycle has a much
    wider 'footprint' - it will stick out further into the roadway.

    So yes, a lot harder to crash due to poor handling on the
    riders part but much less visible _and_ takes up more space
    on the road. If you have an extensive rail trail network
    around you like they do in floriduh, it doesn't seem like a
    bad idea. However if you have to stick to public roads, you
    might want to attach a beacon lamp to a 6 foot pole

    https://yidabestqrs.click/product_details/95656823.html



    Indeed, high-visibilty flags don't sell well nowadays as
    super bright red flashing LED lights are clearly better.

    The folks I know who have such bikes or trikes really tend to say that it >draws attention as even in london with all sorts of odd things out about, >recumbents do get noticed, no flag needed.

    Roger Merriman

    The issue is that a flag is much higher than the rider's head and
    supposedly can be seen even when riding in front of a vehicle with a
    high hood(bonnet). I rode around the block once with a flag and never
    again. Not only did the flapping in the wind above my head annoy me, I
    dislike bright flashy colors. I wear black or grey.

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman
    --- Synchronet 3.21b-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Mark J cleary@mcleary08@comcast.net to rec.bicycles.tech on Thu Feb 12 14:21:07 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    On 2/12/2026 1:35 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
    On 12 Feb 2026 14:51:57 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:

    AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
    On 2/12/2026 5:01 AM, zen cycle wrote:
    On 2/11/2026 5:26 PM, Mark J cleary wrote:
    Someone near me has Catrike 559 for sale for $3000 claims
    they had it about a year with 1000 miles tops. I believe
    this due to Strava information without going farther. I
    message the guy to see my question.

    Given my crash history and I don't want to ride outside
    anymore due to possibly going down. Will a Catrike
    actually be much better at keeping me safe at least
    concerning crashes. The obvious to me is yes but of course
    cars and all the other stuff still are in the mix. Give me
    a run down on what you think and how many of you have road
    a Trike like this?

    They ride quite abit lower to the ground. Yes much more
    stable, but it seems to me the big drawback is visibility
    because your ass is only about a foot or so above the
    pavement. Unless you're riding on segregated paths (rail
    trails etc) you're basically invisible if something as small
    as a toyota prius is in the way, and the tricycle has a much
    wider 'footprint' - it will stick out further into the roadway.

    So yes, a lot harder to crash due to poor handling on the
    riders part but much less visible _and_ takes up more space
    on the road. If you have an extensive rail trail network
    around you like they do in floriduh, it doesn't seem like a
    bad idea. However if you have to stick to public roads, you
    might want to attach a beacon lamp to a 6 foot pole

    https://yidabestqrs.click/product_details/95656823.html



    Indeed, high-visibilty flags don't sell well nowadays as
    super bright red flashing LED lights are clearly better.

    The folks I know who have such bikes or trikes really tend to say that it
    draws attention as even in london with all sorts of odd things out about,
    recumbents do get noticed, no flag needed.

    Roger Merriman

    The issue is that a flag is much higher than the rider's head and
    supposedly can be seen even when riding in front of a vehicle with a
    high hood(bonnet). I rode around the block once with a flag and never
    again. Not only did the flapping in the wind above my head annoy me, I dislike bright flashy colors. I wear black or grey.

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman
    flag would annoy me to no end I am sure and it makes sense to be
    clipped in. This Catrike 559 I may go check out it seems like a no
    brainer in that close to me and in almost new shape. If I can give it a
    spin that would help. I make these decision way to slow but no need in
    rushing things.
    --
    Deacon Mark
    --- Synchronet 3.21b-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From AMuzi@am@yellowjersey.org to rec.bicycles.tech on Thu Feb 12 14:35:54 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    On 2/12/2026 2:21 PM, Mark J cleary wrote:
    On 2/12/2026 1:35 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
    On 12 Feb 2026 14:51:57 GMT, Roger Merriman
    <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:

    AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
    On 2/12/2026 5:01 AM, zen cycle wrote:
    On 2/11/2026 5:26 PM, Mark J cleary wrote:
    Someone near me has Catrike 559 for sale for $3000 claims
    they had it about a year with 1000 miles tops. I believe
    this due to Strava information without going farther. I
    message the guy to see my question.

    Given my crash history and I don't want to ride outside
    anymore due to possibly going down. Will a Catrike
    actually be much better at keeping me safe at least
    concerning crashes. The obvious to me is yes but of
    course
    cars and all the other stuff still are in the mix.
    Give me
    a run down on what you think and how many of you have
    road
    a Trike like this?

    They ride quite abit lower to the ground. Yes much more
    stable, but it seems to me the big drawback is visibility
    because your ass is only about a foot or so above the
    pavement. Unless you're riding on segregated paths (rail
    trails etc) you're basically invisible if something as
    small
    as a toyota prius is in the way, and the tricycle has a
    much
    wider 'footprint' - it will stick out further into the
    roadway.

    So yes, a lot harder to crash due to poor handling on the
    riders part but much less visible _and_ takes up more
    space
    on the road. If you have an extensive rail trail network
    around you like they do in floriduh, it doesn't seem
    like a
    bad idea. However if you have to stick to public roads,
    you
    might want to attach a beacon lamp to a 6 foot pole

    https://yidabestqrs.click/product_details/95656823.html



    Indeed, high-visibilty flags don't sell well nowadays as
    super bright red flashing LED lights are clearly better.

    The folks I know who have such bikes or trikes really
    tend to say that it
    draws attention as even in london with all sorts of odd
    things out about,
    recumbents do get noticed, no flag needed.

    Roger Merriman

    The issue is that a flag is much higher than the rider's
    head and
    supposedly can be seen even when riding in front of a
    vehicle with a
    high hood(bonnet). I rode around the block once with a
    flag and never
    again. Not only did the flapping in the wind above my head
    annoy me, I
    dislike bright flashy colors. I wear black or grey.

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman
    -aflag would annoy me to no end I am sure and it makes sense
    to be clipped in. This Catrike 559 I may go check out it
    seems like a no brainer in that close to me and in almost
    new shape. If I can give it a spin that would help. I make
    these decision way to slow but no need in rushing things.


    Bring your shoes, pedals and a pedal wrench to your test ride.

    Looks like unusually nice weather this week for a Midwest
    February.
    --
    Andrew Muzi
    am@yellowjersey.org
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971
    --- Synchronet 3.21b-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Catrike Ryder@Soloman@old.bikers.org to rec.bicycles.tech on Thu Feb 12 15:53:59 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    On Thu, 12 Feb 2026 14:21:07 -0600, Mark J cleary
    <mcleary08@comcast.net> wrote:

    On 2/12/2026 1:35 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
    On 12 Feb 2026 14:51:57 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:

    AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
    On 2/12/2026 5:01 AM, zen cycle wrote:
    On 2/11/2026 5:26 PM, Mark J cleary wrote:
    Someone near me has Catrike 559 for sale for $3000 claims
    they had it about a year with 1000 miles tops. I believe
    this due to Strava information without going farther. I
    message the guy to see my question.

    Given my crash history and I don't want to ride outside
    anymore due to possibly going down. Will a Catrike
    actually be much better at keeping me safe at least
    concerning crashes. The obvious to me is yes but of course
    cars and all the other stuff still are in the mix. Give me
    a run down on what you think and how many of you have road
    a Trike like this?

    They ride quite abit lower to the ground. Yes much more
    stable, but it seems to me the big drawback is visibility
    because your ass is only about a foot or so above the
    pavement. Unless you're riding on segregated paths (rail
    trails etc) you're basically invisible if something as small
    as a toyota prius is in the way, and the tricycle has a much
    wider 'footprint' - it will stick out further into the roadway.

    So yes, a lot harder to crash due to poor handling on the
    riders part but much less visible _and_ takes up more space
    on the road. If you have an extensive rail trail network
    around you like they do in floriduh, it doesn't seem like a
    bad idea. However if you have to stick to public roads, you
    might want to attach a beacon lamp to a 6 foot pole

    https://yidabestqrs.click/product_details/95656823.html



    Indeed, high-visibilty flags don't sell well nowadays as
    super bright red flashing LED lights are clearly better.

    The folks I know who have such bikes or trikes really tend to say that it >>> draws attention as even in london with all sorts of odd things out about, >>> recumbents do get noticed, no flag needed.

    Roger Merriman

    The issue is that a flag is much higher than the rider's head and
    supposedly can be seen even when riding in front of a vehicle with a
    high hood(bonnet). I rode around the block once with a flag and never
    again. Not only did the flapping in the wind above my head annoy me, I
    dislike bright flashy colors. I wear black or grey.

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman
    flag would annoy me to no end I am sure and it makes sense to be
    clipped in. This Catrike 559 I may go check out it seems like a no
    brainer in that close to me and in almost new shape. If I can give it a
    spin that would help. I make these decision way to slow but no need in >rushing things.

    Big expense.. take your time....

    Hopefully, the boom length isn't to far off for you on your test ride,
    because moving it a lot requires a change in chain length. Riding
    without it being set right won't be a good test ride. You might want
    to take a set of road pedals to the test because it's doubtful that it
    has road pedals installed.

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman
    --- Synchronet 3.21b-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Catrike Ryder@Soloman@old.bikers.org to rec.bicycles.tech on Thu Feb 12 15:56:10 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    On Thu, 12 Feb 2026 14:35:54 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

    On 2/12/2026 2:21 PM, Mark J cleary wrote:
    On 2/12/2026 1:35 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
    On 12 Feb 2026 14:51:57 GMT, Roger Merriman
    <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:

    AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
    On 2/12/2026 5:01 AM, zen cycle wrote:
    On 2/11/2026 5:26 PM, Mark J cleary wrote:
    Someone near me has Catrike 559 for sale for $3000 claims
    they had it about a year with 1000 miles tops. I believe
    this due to Strava information without going farther. I
    message the guy to see my question.

    Given my crash history and I don't want to ride outside
    anymore due to possibly going down. Will a Catrike
    actually be much better at keeping me safe at least
    concerning crashes. The obvious to me is yes but of
    course
    cars and all the other stuff still are in the mix.
    Give me
    a run down on what you think and how many of you have
    road
    a Trike like this?

    They ride quite abit lower to the ground. Yes much more
    stable, but it seems to me the big drawback is visibility
    because your ass is only about a foot or so above the
    pavement. Unless you're riding on segregated paths (rail
    trails etc) you're basically invisible if something as
    small
    as a toyota prius is in the way, and the tricycle has a
    much
    wider 'footprint' - it will stick out further into the
    roadway.

    So yes, a lot harder to crash due to poor handling on the
    riders part but much less visible _and_ takes up more
    space
    on the road. If you have an extensive rail trail network
    around you like they do in floriduh, it doesn't seem
    like a
    bad idea. However if you have to stick to public roads,
    you
    might want to attach a beacon lamp to a 6 foot pole

    https://yidabestqrs.click/product_details/95656823.html



    Indeed, high-visibilty flags don't sell well nowadays as
    super bright red flashing LED lights are clearly better.

    The folks I know who have such bikes or trikes really
    tend to say that it
    draws attention as even in london with all sorts of odd
    things out about,
    recumbents do get noticed, no flag needed.

    Roger Merriman

    The issue is that a flag is much higher than the rider's
    head and
    supposedly can be seen even when riding in front of a
    vehicle with a
    high hood(bonnet). I rode around the block once with a
    flag and never
    again. Not only did the flapping in the wind above my head
    annoy me, I
    dislike bright flashy colors. I wear black or grey.

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman
    aflag would annoy me to no end I am sure and it makes sense
    to be clipped in. This Catrike 559 I may go check out it
    seems like a no brainer in that close to me and in almost
    new shape. If I can give it a spin that would help. I make
    these decision way to slow but no need in rushing things.


    Bring your shoes, pedals and a pedal wrench to your test ride.

    Looks like unusually nice weather this week for a Midwest
    February.


    And maybe a few chain links and master links in case the boom length
    is too far off.

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman
    --- Synchronet 3.21b-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Mark J cleary@mcleary08@comcast.net to rec.bicycles.tech on Thu Feb 12 15:38:03 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    On 2/12/2026 2:53 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
    On Thu, 12 Feb 2026 14:21:07 -0600, Mark J cleary
    <mcleary08@comcast.net> wrote:

    On 2/12/2026 1:35 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
    On 12 Feb 2026 14:51:57 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:

    AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
    On 2/12/2026 5:01 AM, zen cycle wrote:
    On 2/11/2026 5:26 PM, Mark J cleary wrote:
    Someone near me has Catrike 559 for sale for $3000 claims
    they had it about a year with 1000 miles tops. I believe
    this due to Strava information without going farther. I
    message the guy to see my question.

    Given my crash history and I don't want to ride outside
    anymore due to possibly going down. Will a Catrike
    actually be much better at keeping me safe at least
    concerning crashes. The obvious to me is yes but of course
    cars and all the other stuff still are in the mix. Give me
    a run down on what you think and how many of you have road
    a Trike like this?

    They ride quite abit lower to the ground. Yes much more
    stable, but it seems to me the big drawback is visibility
    because your ass is only about a foot or so above the
    pavement. Unless you're riding on segregated paths (rail
    trails etc) you're basically invisible if something as small
    as a toyota prius is in the way, and the tricycle has a much
    wider 'footprint' - it will stick out further into the roadway.

    So yes, a lot harder to crash due to poor handling on the
    riders part but much less visible _and_ takes up more space
    on the road. If you have an extensive rail trail network
    around you like they do in floriduh, it doesn't seem like a
    bad idea. However if you have to stick to public roads, you
    might want to attach a beacon lamp to a 6 foot pole

    https://yidabestqrs.click/product_details/95656823.html



    Indeed, high-visibilty flags don't sell well nowadays as
    super bright red flashing LED lights are clearly better.

    The folks I know who have such bikes or trikes really tend to say that it >>>> draws attention as even in london with all sorts of odd things out about, >>>> recumbents do get noticed, no flag needed.

    Roger Merriman

    The issue is that a flag is much higher than the rider's head and
    supposedly can be seen even when riding in front of a vehicle with a
    high hood(bonnet). I rode around the block once with a flag and never
    again. Not only did the flapping in the wind above my head annoy me, I
    dislike bright flashy colors. I wear black or grey.

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman
    flag would annoy me to no end I am sure and it makes sense to be
    clipped in. This Catrike 559 I may go check out it seems like a no
    brainer in that close to me and in almost new shape. If I can give it a
    spin that would help. I make these decision way to slow but no need in
    rushing things.

    Big expense.. take your time....

    Hopefully, the boom length isn't to far off for you on your test ride, because moving it a lot requires a change in chain length. Riding
    without it being set right won't be a good test ride. You might want
    to take a set of road pedals to the test because it's doubtful that it
    has road pedals installed.

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman
    These are all good things to think about the boom length is foreign
    stuff to my ears. I will have to check that out and see what needs to be
    done to set for myself. Normally I have 35 inch cycling inseam on road
    bike probably longer than average.

    Frankly it may seem like a lot of money compared to the medical bills
    from the crash it is peanuts. Thankfully I have good health insurance
    but out of pocket would buy this bike for sure. It is a whole lot
    cheaper than most surgeries and some medical test. Definitely cheaper
    than the $39,000 helicopter ride from one hospital to another.

    Finally the jazz guitarist and collector that I am of archtop guitars
    these bikes are still cheaper. I have my eye right now on a 1950 Gibson
    Super 400 that would be cool.
    --
    Deacon Mark
    --- Synchronet 3.21b-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Catrike Ryder@Soloman@old.bikers.org to rec.bicycles.tech on Fri Feb 13 09:20:18 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    On Thu, 12 Feb 2026 15:38:03 -0600, Mark J cleary
    <mcleary08@comcast.net> wrote:

    On 2/12/2026 2:53 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
    On Thu, 12 Feb 2026 14:21:07 -0600, Mark J cleary
    <mcleary08@comcast.net> wrote:

    On 2/12/2026 1:35 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
    On 12 Feb 2026 14:51:57 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:

    AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
    On 2/12/2026 5:01 AM, zen cycle wrote:
    On 2/11/2026 5:26 PM, Mark J cleary wrote:
    Someone near me has Catrike 559 for sale for $3000 claims
    they had it about a year with 1000 miles tops. I believe
    this due to Strava information without going farther. I
    message the guy to see my question.

    Given my crash history and I don't want to ride outside
    anymore due to possibly going down. Will a Catrike
    actually be much better at keeping me safe at least
    concerning crashes. The obvious to me is yes but of course
    cars and all the other stuff still are in the mix. Give me
    a run down on what you think and how many of you have road
    a Trike like this?

    They ride quite abit lower to the ground. Yes much more
    stable, but it seems to me the big drawback is visibility
    because your ass is only about a foot or so above the
    pavement. Unless you're riding on segregated paths (rail
    trails etc) you're basically invisible if something as small
    as a toyota prius is in the way, and the tricycle has a much
    wider 'footprint' - it will stick out further into the roadway.

    So yes, a lot harder to crash due to poor handling on the
    riders part but much less visible _and_ takes up more space
    on the road. If you have an extensive rail trail network
    around you like they do in floriduh, it doesn't seem like a
    bad idea. However if you have to stick to public roads, you
    might want to attach a beacon lamp to a 6 foot pole

    https://yidabestqrs.click/product_details/95656823.html



    Indeed, high-visibilty flags don't sell well nowadays as
    super bright red flashing LED lights are clearly better.

    The folks I know who have such bikes or trikes really tend to say that it >>>>> draws attention as even in london with all sorts of odd things out about, >>>>> recumbents do get noticed, no flag needed.

    Roger Merriman

    The issue is that a flag is much higher than the rider's head and
    supposedly can be seen even when riding in front of a vehicle with a
    high hood(bonnet). I rode around the block once with a flag and never
    again. Not only did the flapping in the wind above my head annoy me, I >>>> dislike bright flashy colors. I wear black or grey.

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman
    flag would annoy me to no end I am sure and it makes sense to be
    clipped in. This Catrike 559 I may go check out it seems like a no
    brainer in that close to me and in almost new shape. If I can give it a
    spin that would help. I make these decision way to slow but no need in
    rushing things.

    Big expense.. take your time....

    Hopefully, the boom length isn't to far off for you on your test ride,
    because moving it a lot requires a change in chain length. Riding
    without it being set right won't be a good test ride. You might want
    to take a set of road pedals to the test because it's doubtful that it
    has road pedals installed.

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman
    These are all good things to think about the boom length is foreign
    stuff to my ears. I will have to check that out and see what needs to be >done to set for myself. Normally I have 35 inch cycling inseam on road
    bike probably longer than average.

    Frankly it may seem like a lot of money compared to the medical bills
    from the crash it is peanuts. Thankfully I have good health insurance
    but out of pocket would buy this bike for sure. It is a whole lot
    cheaper than most surgeries and some medical test. Definitely cheaper
    than the $39,000 helicopter ride from one hospital to another.

    Finally the jazz guitarist and collector that I am of archtop guitars
    these bikes are still cheaper. I have my eye right now on a 1950 Gibson >Super 400 that would be cool.

    My first guitar was an acoustic arch top. I don't recall the brand or
    where I bought it, but I was in high school at the time with part time
    and odd job income so it must not have been very expensive. I remember
    it's demise when two of my friends crawled into the back seat of my 51
    Mercury and sat on it. We'd been at a party and I'd offered to take
    them home. I looked for another f-hole guitar but I could never find
    one I could afford.

    I should mention that I was never a very good guitar player. Fingers
    are too fat and stubby.

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman
    --- Synchronet 3.21b-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Mark J cleary@mcleary08@comcast.net to rec.bicycles.tech on Fri Feb 13 11:02:43 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    On 2/13/2026 8:20 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
    On Thu, 12 Feb 2026 15:38:03 -0600, Mark J cleary
    <mcleary08@comcast.net> wrote:

    On 2/12/2026 2:53 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
    On Thu, 12 Feb 2026 14:21:07 -0600, Mark J cleary
    <mcleary08@comcast.net> wrote:

    On 2/12/2026 1:35 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
    On 12 Feb 2026 14:51:57 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote: >>>>>
    AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
    On 2/12/2026 5:01 AM, zen cycle wrote:
    On 2/11/2026 5:26 PM, Mark J cleary wrote:
    Someone near me has Catrike 559 for sale for $3000 claims
    they had it about a year with 1000 miles tops. I believe
    this due to Strava information without going farther. I
    message the guy to see my question.

    Given my crash history and I don't want to ride outside
    anymore due to possibly going down. Will a Catrike
    actually be much better at keeping me safe at least
    concerning crashes. The obvious to me is yes but of course
    cars and all the other stuff still are in the mix. Give me
    a run down on what you think and how many of you have road
    a Trike like this?

    They ride quite abit lower to the ground. Yes much more
    stable, but it seems to me the big drawback is visibility
    because your ass is only about a foot or so above the
    pavement. Unless you're riding on segregated paths (rail
    trails etc) you're basically invisible if something as small
    as a toyota prius is in the way, and the tricycle has a much
    wider 'footprint' - it will stick out further into the roadway. >>>>>>>>
    So yes, a lot harder to crash due to poor handling on the
    riders part but much less visible _and_ takes up more space
    on the road. If you have an extensive rail trail network
    around you like they do in floriduh, it doesn't seem like a
    bad idea. However if you have to stick to public roads, you
    might want to attach a beacon lamp to a 6 foot pole

    https://yidabestqrs.click/product_details/95656823.html



    Indeed, high-visibilty flags don't sell well nowadays as
    super bright red flashing LED lights are clearly better.

    The folks I know who have such bikes or trikes really tend to say that it
    draws attention as even in london with all sorts of odd things out about,
    recumbents do get noticed, no flag needed.

    Roger Merriman

    The issue is that a flag is much higher than the rider's head and
    supposedly can be seen even when riding in front of a vehicle with a >>>>> high hood(bonnet). I rode around the block once with a flag and never >>>>> again. Not only did the flapping in the wind above my head annoy me, I >>>>> dislike bright flashy colors. I wear black or grey.

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman
    flag would annoy me to no end I am sure and it makes sense to be
    clipped in. This Catrike 559 I may go check out it seems like a no
    brainer in that close to me and in almost new shape. If I can give it a >>>> spin that would help. I make these decision way to slow but no need in >>>> rushing things.

    Big expense.. take your time....

    Hopefully, the boom length isn't to far off for you on your test ride,
    because moving it a lot requires a change in chain length. Riding
    without it being set right won't be a good test ride. You might want
    to take a set of road pedals to the test because it's doubtful that it
    has road pedals installed.

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman
    These are all good things to think about the boom length is foreign
    stuff to my ears. I will have to check that out and see what needs to be
    done to set for myself. Normally I have 35 inch cycling inseam on road
    bike probably longer than average.

    Frankly it may seem like a lot of money compared to the medical bills
    from the crash it is peanuts. Thankfully I have good health insurance
    but out of pocket would buy this bike for sure. It is a whole lot
    cheaper than most surgeries and some medical test. Definitely cheaper
    than the $39,000 helicopter ride from one hospital to another.

    Finally the jazz guitarist and collector that I am of archtop guitars
    these bikes are still cheaper. I have my eye right now on a 1950 Gibson
    Super 400 that would be cool.

    My first guitar was an acoustic arch top. I don't recall the brand or
    where I bought it, but I was in high school at the time with part time
    and odd job income so it must not have been very expensive. I remember
    it's demise when two of my friends crawled into the back seat of my 51 Mercury and sat on it. We'd been at a party and I'd offered to take
    them home. I looked for another f-hole guitar but I could never find
    one I could afford.

    I should mention that I was never a very good guitar player. Fingers
    are too fat and stubby.

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman
    I am a jazz guitarist at heart and I have played 52 years. My father
    also a studio guitarist in Los Angeles area from 1959 through 1973.
    Played on a few TV shows and such. Myself I made my living teaching and playing in college and a few years after. Since retirement 7 years ago I
    have played even more. I generally play 2-3 hours a day. I also repair
    guitars worked for 2 well known archtop guitar makers. Have you ever
    heard of a D'angelico Guitar?
    --
    Deacon Mark
    --- Synchronet 3.21b-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Mark J cleary@mcleary08@comcast.net to rec.bicycles.tech on Fri Feb 13 11:07:42 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    On 2/13/2026 8:20 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
    On Thu, 12 Feb 2026 15:38:03 -0600, Mark J cleary
    <mcleary08@comcast.net> wrote:

    On 2/12/2026 2:53 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
    On Thu, 12 Feb 2026 14:21:07 -0600, Mark J cleary
    <mcleary08@comcast.net> wrote:

    On 2/12/2026 1:35 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
    On 12 Feb 2026 14:51:57 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote: >>>>>
    AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
    On 2/12/2026 5:01 AM, zen cycle wrote:
    On 2/11/2026 5:26 PM, Mark J cleary wrote:
    Someone near me has Catrike 559 for sale for $3000 claims
    they had it about a year with 1000 miles tops. I believe
    this due to Strava information without going farther. I
    message the guy to see my question.

    Given my crash history and I don't want to ride outside
    anymore due to possibly going down. Will a Catrike
    actually be much better at keeping me safe at least
    concerning crashes. The obvious to me is yes but of course
    cars and all the other stuff still are in the mix. Give me
    a run down on what you think and how many of you have road
    a Trike like this?

    They ride quite abit lower to the ground. Yes much more
    stable, but it seems to me the big drawback is visibility
    because your ass is only about a foot or so above the
    pavement. Unless you're riding on segregated paths (rail
    trails etc) you're basically invisible if something as small
    as a toyota prius is in the way, and the tricycle has a much
    wider 'footprint' - it will stick out further into the roadway. >>>>>>>>
    So yes, a lot harder to crash due to poor handling on the
    riders part but much less visible _and_ takes up more space
    on the road. If you have an extensive rail trail network
    around you like they do in floriduh, it doesn't seem like a
    bad idea. However if you have to stick to public roads, you
    might want to attach a beacon lamp to a 6 foot pole

    https://yidabestqrs.click/product_details/95656823.html



    Indeed, high-visibilty flags don't sell well nowadays as
    super bright red flashing LED lights are clearly better.

    The folks I know who have such bikes or trikes really tend to say that it
    draws attention as even in london with all sorts of odd things out about,
    recumbents do get noticed, no flag needed.

    Roger Merriman

    The issue is that a flag is much higher than the rider's head and
    supposedly can be seen even when riding in front of a vehicle with a >>>>> high hood(bonnet). I rode around the block once with a flag and never >>>>> again. Not only did the flapping in the wind above my head annoy me, I >>>>> dislike bright flashy colors. I wear black or grey.

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman
    flag would annoy me to no end I am sure and it makes sense to be
    clipped in. This Catrike 559 I may go check out it seems like a no
    brainer in that close to me and in almost new shape. If I can give it a >>>> spin that would help. I make these decision way to slow but no need in >>>> rushing things.

    Big expense.. take your time....

    Hopefully, the boom length isn't to far off for you on your test ride,
    because moving it a lot requires a change in chain length. Riding
    without it being set right won't be a good test ride. You might want
    to take a set of road pedals to the test because it's doubtful that it
    has road pedals installed.

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman
    These are all good things to think about the boom length is foreign
    stuff to my ears. I will have to check that out and see what needs to be
    done to set for myself. Normally I have 35 inch cycling inseam on road
    bike probably longer than average.

    Frankly it may seem like a lot of money compared to the medical bills
    from the crash it is peanuts. Thankfully I have good health insurance
    but out of pocket would buy this bike for sure. It is a whole lot
    cheaper than most surgeries and some medical test. Definitely cheaper
    than the $39,000 helicopter ride from one hospital to another.

    Finally the jazz guitarist and collector that I am of archtop guitars
    these bikes are still cheaper. I have my eye right now on a 1950 Gibson
    Super 400 that would be cool.

    My first guitar was an acoustic arch top. I don't recall the brand or
    where I bought it, but I was in high school at the time with part time
    and odd job income so it must not have been very expensive. I remember
    it's demise when two of my friends crawled into the back seat of my 51 Mercury and sat on it. We'd been at a party and I'd offered to take
    them home. I looked for another f-hole guitar but I could never find
    one I could afford.

    I should mention that I was never a very good guitar player. Fingers
    are too fat and stubby.

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman
    Here you go nothing much but I fast upload. https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=QYzoRE0FptM
    --
    Deacon Mark
    --- Synchronet 3.21b-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Mark J cleary@mcleary08@comcast.net to rec.bicycles.tech on Fri Feb 13 11:10:46 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    On 2/13/2026 8:20 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
    On Thu, 12 Feb 2026 15:38:03 -0600, Mark J cleary
    <mcleary08@comcast.net> wrote:

    On 2/12/2026 2:53 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
    On Thu, 12 Feb 2026 14:21:07 -0600, Mark J cleary
    <mcleary08@comcast.net> wrote:

    On 2/12/2026 1:35 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
    On 12 Feb 2026 14:51:57 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote: >>>>>
    AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
    On 2/12/2026 5:01 AM, zen cycle wrote:
    On 2/11/2026 5:26 PM, Mark J cleary wrote:
    Someone near me has Catrike 559 for sale for $3000 claims
    they had it about a year with 1000 miles tops. I believe
    this due to Strava information without going farther. I
    message the guy to see my question.

    Given my crash history and I don't want to ride outside
    anymore due to possibly going down. Will a Catrike
    actually be much better at keeping me safe at least
    concerning crashes. The obvious to me is yes but of course
    cars and all the other stuff still are in the mix. Give me
    a run down on what you think and how many of you have road
    a Trike like this?

    They ride quite abit lower to the ground. Yes much more
    stable, but it seems to me the big drawback is visibility
    because your ass is only about a foot or so above the
    pavement. Unless you're riding on segregated paths (rail
    trails etc) you're basically invisible if something as small
    as a toyota prius is in the way, and the tricycle has a much
    wider 'footprint' - it will stick out further into the roadway. >>>>>>>>
    So yes, a lot harder to crash due to poor handling on the
    riders part but much less visible _and_ takes up more space
    on the road. If you have an extensive rail trail network
    around you like they do in floriduh, it doesn't seem like a
    bad idea. However if you have to stick to public roads, you
    might want to attach a beacon lamp to a 6 foot pole

    https://yidabestqrs.click/product_details/95656823.html



    Indeed, high-visibilty flags don't sell well nowadays as
    super bright red flashing LED lights are clearly better.

    The folks I know who have such bikes or trikes really tend to say that it
    draws attention as even in london with all sorts of odd things out about,
    recumbents do get noticed, no flag needed.

    Roger Merriman

    The issue is that a flag is much higher than the rider's head and
    supposedly can be seen even when riding in front of a vehicle with a >>>>> high hood(bonnet). I rode around the block once with a flag and never >>>>> again. Not only did the flapping in the wind above my head annoy me, I >>>>> dislike bright flashy colors. I wear black or grey.

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman
    flag would annoy me to no end I am sure and it makes sense to be
    clipped in. This Catrike 559 I may go check out it seems like a no
    brainer in that close to me and in almost new shape. If I can give it a >>>> spin that would help. I make these decision way to slow but no need in >>>> rushing things.

    Big expense.. take your time....

    Hopefully, the boom length isn't to far off for you on your test ride,
    because moving it a lot requires a change in chain length. Riding
    without it being set right won't be a good test ride. You might want
    to take a set of road pedals to the test because it's doubtful that it
    has road pedals installed.

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman
    These are all good things to think about the boom length is foreign
    stuff to my ears. I will have to check that out and see what needs to be
    done to set for myself. Normally I have 35 inch cycling inseam on road
    bike probably longer than average.

    Frankly it may seem like a lot of money compared to the medical bills
    from the crash it is peanuts. Thankfully I have good health insurance
    but out of pocket would buy this bike for sure. It is a whole lot
    cheaper than most surgeries and some medical test. Definitely cheaper
    than the $39,000 helicopter ride from one hospital to another.

    Finally the jazz guitarist and collector that I am of archtop guitars
    these bikes are still cheaper. I have my eye right now on a 1950 Gibson
    Super 400 that would be cool.

    My first guitar was an acoustic arch top. I don't recall the brand or
    where I bought it, but I was in high school at the time with part time
    and odd job income so it must not have been very expensive. I remember
    it's demise when two of my friends crawled into the back seat of my 51 Mercury and sat on it. We'd been at a party and I'd offered to take
    them home. I looked for another f-hole guitar but I could never find
    one I could afford.

    I should mention that I was never a very good guitar player. Fingers
    are too fat and stubby.

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman
    A better recoding.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLttCws7WlI
    --
    Deacon Mark
    --- Synchronet 3.21b-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Catrike Ryder@Soloman@old.bikers.org to rec.bicycles.tech on Fri Feb 13 13:18:00 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    On Fri, 13 Feb 2026 11:02:43 -0600, Mark J cleary
    <mcleary08@comcast.net> wrote:

    On 2/13/2026 8:20 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
    On Thu, 12 Feb 2026 15:38:03 -0600, Mark J cleary
    <mcleary08@comcast.net> wrote:

    On 2/12/2026 2:53 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
    On Thu, 12 Feb 2026 14:21:07 -0600, Mark J cleary
    <mcleary08@comcast.net> wrote:

    On 2/12/2026 1:35 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
    On 12 Feb 2026 14:51:57 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote: >>>>>>
    AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
    On 2/12/2026 5:01 AM, zen cycle wrote:
    On 2/11/2026 5:26 PM, Mark J cleary wrote:
    Someone near me has Catrike 559 for sale for $3000 claims
    they had it about a year with 1000 miles tops. I believe
    this due to Strava information without going farther. I
    message the guy to see my question.

    Given my crash history and I don't want to ride outside
    anymore due to possibly going down. Will a Catrike
    actually be much better at keeping me safe at least
    concerning crashes. The obvious to me is yes but of course >>>>>>>>>> cars and all the other stuff still are in the mix. Give me >>>>>>>>>> a run down on what you think and how many of you have road >>>>>>>>>> a Trike like this?

    They ride quite abit lower to the ground. Yes much more
    stable, but it seems to me the big drawback is visibility
    because your ass is only about a foot or so above the
    pavement. Unless you're riding on segregated paths (rail
    trails etc) you're basically invisible if something as small >>>>>>>>> as a toyota prius is in the way, and the tricycle has a much >>>>>>>>> wider 'footprint' - it will stick out further into the roadway. >>>>>>>>>
    So yes, a lot harder to crash due to poor handling on the
    riders part but much less visible _and_ takes up more space
    on the road. If you have an extensive rail trail network
    around you like they do in floriduh, it doesn't seem like a
    bad idea. However if you have to stick to public roads, you
    might want to attach a beacon lamp to a 6 foot pole

    https://yidabestqrs.click/product_details/95656823.html



    Indeed, high-visibilty flags don't sell well nowadays as
    super bright red flashing LED lights are clearly better.

    The folks I know who have such bikes or trikes really tend to say that it
    draws attention as even in london with all sorts of odd things out about,
    recumbents do get noticed, no flag needed.

    Roger Merriman

    The issue is that a flag is much higher than the rider's head and
    supposedly can be seen even when riding in front of a vehicle with a >>>>>> high hood(bonnet). I rode around the block once with a flag and never >>>>>> again. Not only did the flapping in the wind above my head annoy me, I >>>>>> dislike bright flashy colors. I wear black or grey.

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman
    flag would annoy me to no end I am sure and it makes sense to be
    clipped in. This Catrike 559 I may go check out it seems like a no
    brainer in that close to me and in almost new shape. If I can give it a >>>>> spin that would help. I make these decision way to slow but no need in >>>>> rushing things.

    Big expense.. take your time....

    Hopefully, the boom length isn't to far off for you on your test ride, >>>> because moving it a lot requires a change in chain length. Riding
    without it being set right won't be a good test ride. You might want
    to take a set of road pedals to the test because it's doubtful that it >>>> has road pedals installed.

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman
    These are all good things to think about the boom length is foreign
    stuff to my ears. I will have to check that out and see what needs to be >>> done to set for myself. Normally I have 35 inch cycling inseam on road
    bike probably longer than average.

    Frankly it may seem like a lot of money compared to the medical bills >>>from the crash it is peanuts. Thankfully I have good health insurance
    but out of pocket would buy this bike for sure. It is a whole lot
    cheaper than most surgeries and some medical test. Definitely cheaper
    than the $39,000 helicopter ride from one hospital to another.

    Finally the jazz guitarist and collector that I am of archtop guitars
    these bikes are still cheaper. I have my eye right now on a 1950 Gibson
    Super 400 that would be cool.

    My first guitar was an acoustic arch top. I don't recall the brand or
    where I bought it, but I was in high school at the time with part time
    and odd job income so it must not have been very expensive. I remember
    it's demise when two of my friends crawled into the back seat of my 51
    Mercury and sat on it. We'd been at a party and I'd offered to take
    them home. I looked for another f-hole guitar but I could never find
    one I could afford.

    I should mention that I was never a very good guitar player. Fingers
    are too fat and stubby.

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman
    I am a jazz guitarist at heart and I have played 52 years. My father
    also a studio guitarist in Los Angeles area from 1959 through 1973.
    Played on a few TV shows and such. Myself I made my living teaching and >playing in college and a few years after. Since retirement 7 years ago I >have played even more. I generally play 2-3 hours a day. I also repair >guitars worked for 2 well known archtop guitar makers. Have you ever
    heard of a D'angelico Guitar?

    Never heard of them, but then I'm not an big follower of guitars. I
    looked them up and there are some beautiful guitars, but no
    non-electric acoustical f-hole.

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman
    --- Synchronet 3.21b-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Catrike Ryder@Soloman@old.bikers.org to rec.bicycles.tech on Fri Feb 13 13:27:22 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    On Fri, 13 Feb 2026 11:07:42 -0600, Mark J cleary
    <mcleary08@comcast.net> wrote:

    On 2/13/2026 8:20 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
    On Thu, 12 Feb 2026 15:38:03 -0600, Mark J cleary
    <mcleary08@comcast.net> wrote:

    On 2/12/2026 2:53 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
    On Thu, 12 Feb 2026 14:21:07 -0600, Mark J cleary
    <mcleary08@comcast.net> wrote:

    On 2/12/2026 1:35 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
    On 12 Feb 2026 14:51:57 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote: >>>>>>
    AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
    On 2/12/2026 5:01 AM, zen cycle wrote:
    On 2/11/2026 5:26 PM, Mark J cleary wrote:
    Someone near me has Catrike 559 for sale for $3000 claims
    they had it about a year with 1000 miles tops. I believe
    this due to Strava information without going farther. I
    message the guy to see my question.

    Given my crash history and I don't want to ride outside
    anymore due to possibly going down. Will a Catrike
    actually be much better at keeping me safe at least
    concerning crashes. The obvious to me is yes but of course >>>>>>>>>> cars and all the other stuff still are in the mix. Give me >>>>>>>>>> a run down on what you think and how many of you have road >>>>>>>>>> a Trike like this?

    They ride quite abit lower to the ground. Yes much more
    stable, but it seems to me the big drawback is visibility
    because your ass is only about a foot or so above the
    pavement. Unless you're riding on segregated paths (rail
    trails etc) you're basically invisible if something as small >>>>>>>>> as a toyota prius is in the way, and the tricycle has a much >>>>>>>>> wider 'footprint' - it will stick out further into the roadway. >>>>>>>>>
    So yes, a lot harder to crash due to poor handling on the
    riders part but much less visible _and_ takes up more space
    on the road. If you have an extensive rail trail network
    around you like they do in floriduh, it doesn't seem like a
    bad idea. However if you have to stick to public roads, you
    might want to attach a beacon lamp to a 6 foot pole

    https://yidabestqrs.click/product_details/95656823.html



    Indeed, high-visibilty flags don't sell well nowadays as
    super bright red flashing LED lights are clearly better.

    The folks I know who have such bikes or trikes really tend to say that it
    draws attention as even in london with all sorts of odd things out about,
    recumbents do get noticed, no flag needed.

    Roger Merriman

    The issue is that a flag is much higher than the rider's head and
    supposedly can be seen even when riding in front of a vehicle with a >>>>>> high hood(bonnet). I rode around the block once with a flag and never >>>>>> again. Not only did the flapping in the wind above my head annoy me, I >>>>>> dislike bright flashy colors. I wear black or grey.

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman
    flag would annoy me to no end I am sure and it makes sense to be
    clipped in. This Catrike 559 I may go check out it seems like a no
    brainer in that close to me and in almost new shape. If I can give it a >>>>> spin that would help. I make these decision way to slow but no need in >>>>> rushing things.

    Big expense.. take your time....

    Hopefully, the boom length isn't to far off for you on your test ride, >>>> because moving it a lot requires a change in chain length. Riding
    without it being set right won't be a good test ride. You might want
    to take a set of road pedals to the test because it's doubtful that it >>>> has road pedals installed.

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman
    These are all good things to think about the boom length is foreign
    stuff to my ears. I will have to check that out and see what needs to be >>> done to set for myself. Normally I have 35 inch cycling inseam on road
    bike probably longer than average.

    Frankly it may seem like a lot of money compared to the medical bills >>>from the crash it is peanuts. Thankfully I have good health insurance
    but out of pocket would buy this bike for sure. It is a whole lot
    cheaper than most surgeries and some medical test. Definitely cheaper
    than the $39,000 helicopter ride from one hospital to another.

    Finally the jazz guitarist and collector that I am of archtop guitars
    these bikes are still cheaper. I have my eye right now on a 1950 Gibson
    Super 400 that would be cool.

    My first guitar was an acoustic arch top. I don't recall the brand or
    where I bought it, but I was in high school at the time with part time
    and odd job income so it must not have been very expensive. I remember
    it's demise when two of my friends crawled into the back seat of my 51
    Mercury and sat on it. We'd been at a party and I'd offered to take
    them home. I looked for another f-hole guitar but I could never find
    one I could afford.

    I should mention that I was never a very good guitar player. Fingers
    are too fat and stubby.

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman
    Here you go nothing much but I fast upload. >https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=QYzoRE0FptM

    Very nice... Sounded good enough for me to put on my bone conduction
    headset and listen again.. sounded better yet. My ears are not the
    best part of me, these days.

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman
    --- Synchronet 3.21b-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Catrike Ryder@Soloman@old.bikers.org to rec.bicycles.tech on Fri Feb 13 13:31:19 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    On Fri, 13 Feb 2026 11:10:46 -0600, Mark J cleary
    <mcleary08@comcast.net> wrote:

    On 2/13/2026 8:20 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
    On Thu, 12 Feb 2026 15:38:03 -0600, Mark J cleary
    <mcleary08@comcast.net> wrote:

    On 2/12/2026 2:53 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
    On Thu, 12 Feb 2026 14:21:07 -0600, Mark J cleary
    <mcleary08@comcast.net> wrote:

    On 2/12/2026 1:35 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
    On 12 Feb 2026 14:51:57 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote: >>>>>>
    AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
    On 2/12/2026 5:01 AM, zen cycle wrote:
    On 2/11/2026 5:26 PM, Mark J cleary wrote:
    Someone near me has Catrike 559 for sale for $3000 claims
    they had it about a year with 1000 miles tops. I believe
    this due to Strava information without going farther. I
    message the guy to see my question.

    Given my crash history and I don't want to ride outside
    anymore due to possibly going down. Will a Catrike
    actually be much better at keeping me safe at least
    concerning crashes. The obvious to me is yes but of course >>>>>>>>>> cars and all the other stuff still are in the mix. Give me >>>>>>>>>> a run down on what you think and how many of you have road >>>>>>>>>> a Trike like this?

    They ride quite abit lower to the ground. Yes much more
    stable, but it seems to me the big drawback is visibility
    because your ass is only about a foot or so above the
    pavement. Unless you're riding on segregated paths (rail
    trails etc) you're basically invisible if something as small >>>>>>>>> as a toyota prius is in the way, and the tricycle has a much >>>>>>>>> wider 'footprint' - it will stick out further into the roadway. >>>>>>>>>
    So yes, a lot harder to crash due to poor handling on the
    riders part but much less visible _and_ takes up more space
    on the road. If you have an extensive rail trail network
    around you like they do in floriduh, it doesn't seem like a
    bad idea. However if you have to stick to public roads, you
    might want to attach a beacon lamp to a 6 foot pole

    https://yidabestqrs.click/product_details/95656823.html



    Indeed, high-visibilty flags don't sell well nowadays as
    super bright red flashing LED lights are clearly better.

    The folks I know who have such bikes or trikes really tend to say that it
    draws attention as even in london with all sorts of odd things out about,
    recumbents do get noticed, no flag needed.

    Roger Merriman

    The issue is that a flag is much higher than the rider's head and
    supposedly can be seen even when riding in front of a vehicle with a >>>>>> high hood(bonnet). I rode around the block once with a flag and never >>>>>> again. Not only did the flapping in the wind above my head annoy me, I >>>>>> dislike bright flashy colors. I wear black or grey.

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman
    flag would annoy me to no end I am sure and it makes sense to be
    clipped in. This Catrike 559 I may go check out it seems like a no
    brainer in that close to me and in almost new shape. If I can give it a >>>>> spin that would help. I make these decision way to slow but no need in >>>>> rushing things.

    Big expense.. take your time....

    Hopefully, the boom length isn't to far off for you on your test ride, >>>> because moving it a lot requires a change in chain length. Riding
    without it being set right won't be a good test ride. You might want
    to take a set of road pedals to the test because it's doubtful that it >>>> has road pedals installed.

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman
    These are all good things to think about the boom length is foreign
    stuff to my ears. I will have to check that out and see what needs to be >>> done to set for myself. Normally I have 35 inch cycling inseam on road
    bike probably longer than average.

    Frankly it may seem like a lot of money compared to the medical bills >>>from the crash it is peanuts. Thankfully I have good health insurance
    but out of pocket would buy this bike for sure. It is a whole lot
    cheaper than most surgeries and some medical test. Definitely cheaper
    than the $39,000 helicopter ride from one hospital to another.

    Finally the jazz guitarist and collector that I am of archtop guitars
    these bikes are still cheaper. I have my eye right now on a 1950 Gibson
    Super 400 that would be cool.

    My first guitar was an acoustic arch top. I don't recall the brand or
    where I bought it, but I was in high school at the time with part time
    and odd job income so it must not have been very expensive. I remember
    it's demise when two of my friends crawled into the back seat of my 51
    Mercury and sat on it. We'd been at a party and I'd offered to take
    them home. I looked for another f-hole guitar but I could never find
    one I could afford.

    I should mention that I was never a very good guitar player. Fingers
    are too fat and stubby.

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman
    A better recoding.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLttCws7WlI

    Very nice..

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman
    --- Synchronet 3.21b-Linux NewsLink 1.2