• power assisted bicycles

    From AMuzi@am@yellowjersey.org to rec.bicycles.tech on Sat Jan 31 08:21:41 2026
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    Since the culture has mixed understanding/opinion, the laws
    are incoherent and I doubt that will resolve anytime soon:

    https://www.audacy.com/wbbm780/news/local/new-illinois-campaign-aimed-at-faster-e-scooters-bikes
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  • From Catrike Ryder@Soloman@old.bikers.org to rec.bicycles.tech on Sat Jan 31 09:54:18 2026
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    On Sat, 31 Jan 2026 08:21:41 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

    Since the culture has mixed understanding/opinion, the laws
    are incoherent and I doubt that will resolve anytime soon:

    https://www.audacy.com/wbbm780/news/local/new-illinois-campaign-aimed-at-faster-e-scooters-bikes

    Here, where it's legal to ride bicycles on sidewalks it's not uncommon
    to see what looks like a grade schooler riding an e-device at 20+ MPH
    on the sidewalk.

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    C'est bon
    Soloman
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  • From Roger Merriman@roger@sarlet.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Sat Jan 31 16:05:02 2026
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    Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
    On Sat, 31 Jan 2026 08:21:41 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

    Since the culture has mixed understanding/opinion, the laws
    are incoherent and I doubt that will resolve anytime soon:

    https://www.audacy.com/wbbm780/news/local/new-illinois-campaign-aimed-at-faster-e-scooters-bikes

    Here, where it's legal to ride bicycles on sidewalks it's not uncommon
    to see what looks like a grade schooler riding an e-device at 20+ MPH
    on the sidewalk.

    US seems to have essentially allowed a Wild West of e bike legislation,
    with stuff that is a moped by any reasonable definition allowed!

    Ie stuff that has throttle and limited to 28mph the fact apparently number
    have pedals only to conform to the legislation but is more or less unable
    to be pedalled.

    But fundamentally if something is bike shaped and throttle powered to
    28mph, itrCOs really difficult to see how it differs from a moped which is limited to 30mph, and yes will be a bit more heavier and potentially have
    more torque so could hold that speed up steeper hills.

    Not saying other countries donrCOt have problems with E bikes, but US seems
    to have made a self inflicted problem.

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman


    Roger Merriman

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  • From Catrike Ryder@Soloman@old.bikers.org to rec.bicycles.tech on Sat Jan 31 12:22:33 2026
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    On 31 Jan 2026 16:05:02 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:

    Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
    On Sat, 31 Jan 2026 08:21:41 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

    Since the culture has mixed understanding/opinion, the laws
    are incoherent and I doubt that will resolve anytime soon:

    https://www.audacy.com/wbbm780/news/local/new-illinois-campaign-aimed-at-faster-e-scooters-bikes

    Here, where it's legal to ride bicycles on sidewalks it's not uncommon
    to see what looks like a grade schooler riding an e-device at 20+ MPH
    on the sidewalk.

    US seems to have essentially allowed a Wild West of e bike legislation,
    with stuff that is a moped by any reasonable definition allowed!

    Ie stuff that has throttle and limited to 28mph the fact apparently number >have pedals only to conform to the legislation but is more or less unable
    to be pedalled.

    But fundamentally if something is bike shaped and throttle powered to
    28mph, itAs really difficult to see how it differs from a moped which is >limited to 30mph, and yes will be a bit more heavier and potentially have >more torque so could hold that speed up steeper hills.

    Not saying other countries donAt have problems with E bikes, but US seems
    to have made a self inflicted problem.

    Of which we have many. For example, a dumb shit open carrying a gun to
    a protest.

    Anyone open carrying a hand gun qualifies as a dumb shit. This guy was
    even dumber than most of them.

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman


    Roger Merriman

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    C'est bon
    Soloman
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