• Re: Tuesday Ride

    From AMuzi@am@yellowjersey.org to rec.bicycles.tech on Wed Jan 28 11:51:16 2026
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    On 1/28/2026 11:34 AM, cyclintom wrote:
    I put in almost 40 miles today and am seriously thinking of doing perhqps another 30 tomorrow instead of a rest day. If I do that and then do another njormal Thursday ride I will have as many miles this month as I had in January of last uear before my stroke.

    While trying to get the triple set-up on the Schwinn 564 it etruck me that if I put a triple on my Moser, I woule be able to do the climbing rides I used to do though at a reduced speed. My average heart rate was 112 bpm today. And that with an average speed of 11 mph. Most of the ride was at 14 or so mph not counting the stop lights.

    Modern compacts in, for example, 48x32 have mostly displaced
    triples. You might look into that:

    https://www.campagnolo.com/us-en/chorus-crankset-12x2-speed/CFCCHORUS12S.html

    In that a 53x11 is 130 inches (!!) and a 48x11 is a still
    plenty long 117 inches, you'll likely not run out of high
    gearing with a modern 2x setup
    --
    Andrew Muzi
    am@yellowjersey.org
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971
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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@cyclintom@yahoo.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Wed Jan 28 22:55:55 2026
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    On Wed Jan 28 11:51:16 2026 AMuzi wrote:
    On 1/28/2026 11:34 AM, cyclintom wrote:
    I put in almost 40 miles today and am seriously thinking of doing perhqps another 30 tomorrow instead of a rest day. If I do that and then do another njormal Thursday ride I will have as many miles this month as I had in January of last uear before my stroke.

    While trying to get the triple set-up on the Schwinn 564 it etruck me that if I put a triple on my Moser, I woule be able to do the climbing rides I used to do though at a reduced speed. My average heart rate was 112 bpm today. And that with an average speed of 11 mph. Most of the ride was at 14 or so mph not counting the stop lights.

    Modern compacts in, for example, 48x32 have mostly displaced
    triples. You might look into that:

    https://www.campagnolo.com/us-en/chorus-crankset-12x2-speed/CFCCHORUS12S.html

    In that a 53x11 is 130 inches (!!) and a 48x11 is a still
    plenty long 117 inches, you'll likely not run out of high
    gearing with a modern 2x setup
    I considered that but a 30/32 tooth bottom end is substantially better than a 32/32. I even have a 28 on 74 mm centers around here somwwhere.
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  • From AMuzi@am@yellowjersey.org to rec.bicycles.tech on Wed Jan 28 17:21:13 2026
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    On 1/28/2026 4:55 PM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Wed Jan 28 11:51:16 2026 AMuzi wrote:
    On 1/28/2026 11:34 AM, cyclintom wrote:
    I put in almost 40 miles today and am seriously thinking of doing perhqps another 30 tomorrow instead of a rest day. If I do that and then do another njormal Thursday ride I will have as many miles this month as I had in January of last uear before my stroke.

    While trying to get the triple set-up on the Schwinn 564 it etruck me that if I put a triple on my Moser, I woule be able to do the climbing rides I used to do though at a reduced speed. My average heart rate was 112 bpm today. And that with an average speed of 11 mph. Most of the ride was at 14 or so mph not counting the stop lights.

    Modern compacts in, for example, 48x32 have mostly displaced
    triples. You might look into that:

    https://www.campagnolo.com/us-en/chorus-crankset-12x2-speed/CFCCHORUS12S.html

    In that a 53x11 is 130 inches (!!) and a 48x11 is a still
    plenty long 117 inches, you'll likely not run out of high
    gearing with a modern 2x setup





    I considered that but a 30/32 tooth bottom end is substantially better than a 32/32. I even have a 28 on 74 mm centers around here somwwhere.


    6% lower, in fact.
    Whether that's substantial or not is up to you.
    --
    Andrew Muzi
    am@yellowjersey.org
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  • From Roger Merriman@roger@sarlet.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Thu Jan 29 13:46:22 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
    On 1/28/2026 4:55 PM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Wed Jan 28 11:51:16 2026 AMuzi wrote:
    On 1/28/2026 11:34 AM, cyclintom wrote:
    I put in almost 40 miles today and am seriously thinking of doing
    perhqps another 30 tomorrow instead of a rest day. If I do that and
    then do another njormal Thursday ride I will have as many miles this
    month as I had in January of last uear before my stroke.

    While trying to get the triple set-up on the Schwinn 564 it etruck me
    that if I put a triple on my Moser, I woule be able to do the climbing >>>> rides I used to do though at a reduced speed. My average heart rate
    was 112 bpm today. And that with an average speed of 11 mph. Most of
    the ride was at 14 or so mph not counting the stop lights.

    Modern compacts in, for example, 48x32 have mostly displaced
    triples. You might look into that:

    https://www.campagnolo.com/us-en/chorus-crankset-12x2-speed/CFCCHORUS12S.html

    In that a 53x11 is 130 inches (!!) and a 48x11 is a still
    plenty long 117 inches, you'll likely not run out of high
    gearing with a modern 2x setup





    I considered that but a 30/32 tooth bottom end is substantially better
    than a 32/32. I even have a 28 on 74 mm centers around here somwwhere.


    6% lower, in fact.
    Whether that's substantial or not is up to you.


    My various gravel bikes have used 30/32t chain rings and 32/34/36t
    cassettes, two teeth is noticeable but itrCOs realistically half a shift, itrCOs not going to make a near impossible climb suddenly easy, unlike after the hospital years ago taking the MTB up some of the North downs road
    climbs and even in my weaken state, could just spin over the 20% sections,
    at admittedly barely walking pace but well gearing works!

    I also think herCOd be better with a sub compact such as a 30/46 GRX etc that
    I have.

    Roger Merriman

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  • From zen cycle@funkmasterxx@hotmail.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Fri Jan 30 04:58:41 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    On 1/29/2026 8:46 AM, Roger Merriman wrote:
    AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
    On 1/28/2026 4:55 PM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Wed Jan 28 11:51:16 2026 AMuzi wrote:
    On 1/28/2026 11:34 AM, cyclintom wrote:
    I put in almost 40 miles today and am seriously thinking of doing
    perhqps another 30 tomorrow instead of a rest day. If I do that and
    then do another njormal Thursday ride I will have as many miles this >>>>> month as I had in January of last uear before my stroke.

    While trying to get the triple set-up on the Schwinn 564 it etruck me >>>>> that if I put a triple on my Moser, I woule be able to do the climbing >>>>> rides I used to do though at a reduced speed. My average heart rate
    was 112 bpm today. And that with an average speed of 11 mph. Most of >>>>> the ride was at 14 or so mph not counting the stop lights.

    Modern compacts in, for example, 48x32 have mostly displaced
    triples. You might look into that:

    https://www.campagnolo.com/us-en/chorus-crankset-12x2-speed/CFCCHORUS12S.html

    In that a 53x11 is 130 inches (!!) and a 48x11 is a still
    plenty long 117 inches, you'll likely not run out of high
    gearing with a modern 2x setup





    I considered that but a 30/32 tooth bottom end is substantially better
    than a 32/32. I even have a 28 on 74 mm centers around here somwwhere.


    6% lower, in fact.
    Whether that's substantial or not is up to you.


    My various gravel bikes have used 30/32t chain rings and 32/34/36t
    cassettes, two teeth is noticeable but itrCOs realistically half a shift, itrCOs not going to make a near impossible climb suddenly easy,

    Maybe not 'easy' but certainly more doable. Going from a 39/25 to a
    39/27 on my road bike makes rides like this much more pleasurable.

    https://www.strava.com/activities/3386734234

    My C'dale Habit3 came with a 22 small ring. I use it every year until my fitness increases then swap it out for a 24 - the difference is noticable.

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  • From Roger Merriman@roger@sarlet.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Sat Jan 31 15:03:03 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    zen cycle <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On 1/29/2026 8:46 AM, Roger Merriman wrote:
    AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
    On 1/28/2026 4:55 PM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Wed Jan 28 11:51:16 2026 AMuzi wrote:
    On 1/28/2026 11:34 AM, cyclintom wrote:
    I put in almost 40 miles today and am seriously thinking of doing
    perhqps another 30 tomorrow instead of a rest day. If I do that and >>>>>> then do another njormal Thursday ride I will have as many miles this >>>>>> month as I had in January of last uear before my stroke.

    While trying to get the triple set-up on the Schwinn 564 it etruck me >>>>>> that if I put a triple on my Moser, I woule be able to do the climbing >>>>>> rides I used to do though at a reduced speed. My average heart rate >>>>>> was 112 bpm today. And that with an average speed of 11 mph. Most of >>>>>> the ride was at 14 or so mph not counting the stop lights.

    Modern compacts in, for example, 48x32 have mostly displaced
    triples. You might look into that:

    https://www.campagnolo.com/us-en/chorus-crankset-12x2-speed/CFCCHORUS12S.html

    In that a 53x11 is 130 inches (!!) and a 48x11 is a still
    plenty long 117 inches, you'll likely not run out of high
    gearing with a modern 2x setup





    I considered that but a 30/32 tooth bottom end is substantially better >>>> than a 32/32. I even have a 28 on 74 mm centers around here somwwhere.


    6% lower, in fact.
    Whether that's substantial or not is up to you.


    My various gravel bikes have used 30/32t chain rings and 32/34/36t
    cassettes, two teeth is noticeable but itrCOs realistically half a shift,
    itrCOs not going to make a near impossible climb suddenly easy,

    Maybe not 'easy' but certainly more doable. Going from a 39/25 to a
    39/27 on my road bike makes rides like this much more pleasurable.

    https://www.strava.com/activities/3386734234

    My C'dale Habit3 came with a 22 small ring. I use it every year until my fitness increases then swap it out for a 24 - the difference is noticable.


    Chain rings do make more of different from memory went from 32/48 to 30/46
    on the Gravel bike and quite noticeable on the steeper grades, on road very little that you canrCOt just spin up, off road gives one more of chance on
    the technical climbs.

    My MTB being one of the 1st generation 29er has slightly overgeared drive
    chain with a 24/38 chainset and a 36-11 cassette.

    The old commute bike in its original form ie a 26in hardtail had 22/32/44
    with a 11-34 which with a smaller diameter tyre ie 26in vs 29in and 2.1 vs
    2.4 does mean that that had approximately one gear lower than the 29er
    which was particularly use in the year or so post injury and hospital stay where I was weak and recovering that, bike one could flatten even 20% road climbs, slow it was not but ment I didnrCOt need to push a bike up a hill and risk overdoing it, walking was and remains something that fatigues me, and
    will hurt if I do too much and hurt as stuff doesnrCOt work as before.

    Roger Merriman

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  • From Catrike Ryder@Soloman@old.bikers.org to rec.bicycles.tech on Sat Jan 31 10:35:47 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    On 31 Jan 2026 15:03:03 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:

    zen cycle <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On 1/29/2026 8:46 AM, Roger Merriman wrote:
    AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
    On 1/28/2026 4:55 PM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Wed Jan 28 11:51:16 2026 AMuzi wrote:
    On 1/28/2026 11:34 AM, cyclintom wrote:
    I put in almost 40 miles today and am seriously thinking of doing >>>>>>> perhqps another 30 tomorrow instead of a rest day. If I do that and >>>>>>> then do another njormal Thursday ride I will have as many miles this >>>>>>> month as I had in January of last uear before my stroke.

    While trying to get the triple set-up on the Schwinn 564 it etruck me >>>>>>> that if I put a triple on my Moser, I woule be able to do the climbing >>>>>>> rides I used to do though at a reduced speed. My average heart rate >>>>>>> was 112 bpm today. And that with an average speed of 11 mph. Most of >>>>>>> the ride was at 14 or so mph not counting the stop lights.

    Modern compacts in, for example, 48x32 have mostly displaced
    triples. You might look into that:

    https://www.campagnolo.com/us-en/chorus-crankset-12x2-speed/CFCCHORUS12S.html

    In that a 53x11 is 130 inches (!!) and a 48x11 is a still
    plenty long 117 inches, you'll likely not run out of high
    gearing with a modern 2x setup





    I considered that but a 30/32 tooth bottom end is substantially better >>>>> than a 32/32. I even have a 28 on 74 mm centers around here somwwhere. >>>>

    6% lower, in fact.
    Whether that's substantial or not is up to you.


    My various gravel bikes have used 30/32t chain rings and 32/34/36t
    cassettes, two teeth is noticeable but itAs realistically half a shift,
    itAs not going to make a near impossible climb suddenly easy,

    Maybe not 'easy' but certainly more doable. Going from a 39/25 to a
    39/27 on my road bike makes rides like this much more pleasurable.

    https://www.strava.com/activities/3386734234

    My C'dale Habit3 came with a 22 small ring. I use it every year until my
    fitness increases then swap it out for a 24 - the difference is noticable. >>

    Chain rings do make more of different from memory went from 32/48 to 30/46
    on the Gravel bike and quite noticeable on the steeper grades, on road very >little that you canAt just spin up, off road gives one more of chance on
    the technical climbs.

    My MTB being one of the 1st generation 29er has slightly overgeared drive >chain with a 24/38 chainset and a 36-11 cassette.

    The old commute bike in its original form ie a 26in hardtail had 22/32/44 >with a 11-34 which with a smaller diameter tyre ie 26in vs 29in and 2.1 vs >2.4 does mean that that had approximately one gear lower than the 29er
    which was particularly use in the year or so post injury and hospital stay >where I was weak and recovering that, bike one could flatten even 20% road >climbs, slow it was not but ment I didnAt need to push a bike up a hill and >risk overdoing it, walking was and remains something that fatigues me, and >will hurt if I do too much and hurt as stuff doesnAt work as before.

    Roger Merriman

    Walking a Catrike is close to impossible but not necessary. I can gear
    down to 21 inches which will move me at 4MPH at 65 RPM. Unlike when I
    rode two wheelers, I can ride even slower if, as I get older I might
    have to do on some of the moderate 5-7% grades I encounter. Replacing
    the 54T big ring with a 50T made my rides nicer as I no longer need to downshift the front when I have start up on the small up grades that I
    encunter when crossing a highway.

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman
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  • From Roger Merriman@roger@sarlet.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Sun Feb 1 19:16:27 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
    On 31 Jan 2026 15:03:03 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:

    zen cycle <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On 1/29/2026 8:46 AM, Roger Merriman wrote:
    AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
    On 1/28/2026 4:55 PM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Wed Jan 28 11:51:16 2026 AMuzi wrote:
    On 1/28/2026 11:34 AM, cyclintom wrote:
    I put in almost 40 miles today and am seriously thinking of doing >>>>>>>> perhqps another 30 tomorrow instead of a rest day. If I do that and >>>>>>>> then do another njormal Thursday ride I will have as many miles this >>>>>>>> month as I had in January of last uear before my stroke.

    While trying to get the triple set-up on the Schwinn 564 it etruck me >>>>>>>> that if I put a triple on my Moser, I woule be able to do the climbing >>>>>>>> rides I used to do though at a reduced speed. My average heart rate >>>>>>>> was 112 bpm today. And that with an average speed of 11 mph. Most of >>>>>>>> the ride was at 14 or so mph not counting the stop lights.

    Modern compacts in, for example, 48x32 have mostly displaced
    triples. You might look into that:

    https://www.campagnolo.com/us-en/chorus-crankset-12x2-speed/CFCCHORUS12S.html

    In that a 53x11 is 130 inches (!!) and a 48x11 is a still
    plenty long 117 inches, you'll likely not run out of high
    gearing with a modern 2x setup





    I considered that but a 30/32 tooth bottom end is substantially better >>>>>> than a 32/32. I even have a 28 on 74 mm centers around here somwwhere. >>>>>

    6% lower, in fact.
    Whether that's substantial or not is up to you.


    My various gravel bikes have used 30/32t chain rings and 32/34/36t
    cassettes, two teeth is noticeable but it-As realistically half a shift, >>>> it-As not going to make a near impossible climb suddenly easy,

    Maybe not 'easy' but certainly more doable. Going from a 39/25 to a
    39/27 on my road bike makes rides like this much more pleasurable.

    https://www.strava.com/activities/3386734234

    My C'dale Habit3 came with a 22 small ring. I use it every year until my >>> fitness increases then swap it out for a 24 - the difference is noticable. >>>

    Chain rings do make more of different from memory went from 32/48 to 30/46 >> on the Gravel bike and quite noticeable on the steeper grades, on road very >> little that you can-At just spin up, off road gives one more of chance on
    the technical climbs.

    My MTB being one of the 1st generation 29er has slightly overgeared drive
    chain with a 24/38 chainset and a 36-11 cassette.

    The old commute bike in its original form ie a 26in hardtail had 22/32/44
    with a 11-34 which with a smaller diameter tyre ie 26in vs 29in and 2.1 vs >> 2.4 does mean that that had approximately one gear lower than the 29er
    which was particularly use in the year or so post injury and hospital stay >> where I was weak and recovering that, bike one could flatten even 20% road >> climbs, slow it was not but ment I didn-At need to push a bike up a hill and >> risk overdoing it, walking was and remains something that fatigues me, and >> will hurt if I do too much and hurt as stuff doesn-At work as before.

    Roger Merriman

    Walking a Catrike is close to impossible but not necessary. I can gear
    down to 21 inches which will move me at 4MPH at 65 RPM. Unlike when I
    rode two wheelers, I can ride even slower if, as I get older I might
    have to do on some of the moderate 5-7% grades I encounter. Replacing
    the 54T big ring with a 50T made my rides nicer as I no longer need to downshift the front when I have start up on the small up grades that I encunter when crossing a highway.

    I went 1by on the old MTB as I donrCOt need low gears for the commute and the triple you were always hovering between the big and middle chain rings, and
    was just annoying! The only *hill* being the flyover which is maybe 5%
    probably about the same as the underpass, which due to that bikes weight 26 inches is a touch tall gearing, the roadie with 33 inches feels lower
    though itrCOs arguably has gearing that is too tall for my uses, particularly the 50T big ring, that with a 28t cassette yes I will change that as it
    wear out, which if it lasts the same length of miles will be in about two
    years time! Though looking at how cheap they are might do that sooner than later, as a 11-32/34 cassette would mean IrCOm not faffing with chainrings
    just at junctions etc.

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman


    Roger Merriman

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  • From Mark J cleary@mcleary08@comcast.net to rec.bicycles.tech on Sun Feb 1 13:57:05 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    On 2/1/2026 1:16 PM, Roger Merriman wrote:
    Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
    On 31 Jan 2026 15:03:03 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:

    zen cycle <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On 1/29/2026 8:46 AM, Roger Merriman wrote:
    AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
    On 1/28/2026 4:55 PM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Wed Jan 28 11:51:16 2026 AMuzi wrote:
    On 1/28/2026 11:34 AM, cyclintom wrote:
    I put in almost 40 miles today and am seriously thinking of doing >>>>>>>>> perhqps another 30 tomorrow instead of a rest day. If I do that and >>>>>>>>> then do another njormal Thursday ride I will have as many miles this >>>>>>>>> month as I had in January of last uear before my stroke.

    While trying to get the triple set-up on the Schwinn 564 it etruck me >>>>>>>>> that if I put a triple on my Moser, I woule be able to do the climbing
    rides I used to do though at a reduced speed. My average heart rate >>>>>>>>> was 112 bpm today. And that with an average speed of 11 mph. Most of >>>>>>>>> the ride was at 14 or so mph not counting the stop lights.

    Modern compacts in, for example, 48x32 have mostly displaced
    triples. You might look into that:

    https://www.campagnolo.com/us-en/chorus-crankset-12x2-speed/CFCCHORUS12S.html

    In that a 53x11 is 130 inches (!!) and a 48x11 is a still
    plenty long 117 inches, you'll likely not run out of high
    gearing with a modern 2x setup





    I considered that but a 30/32 tooth bottom end is substantially better >>>>>>> than a 32/32. I even have a 28 on 74 mm centers around here somwwhere. >>>>>>

    6% lower, in fact.
    Whether that's substantial or not is up to you.


    My various gravel bikes have used 30/32t chain rings and 32/34/36t
    cassettes, two teeth is noticeable but it-As realistically half a shift, >>>>> it-As not going to make a near impossible climb suddenly easy,

    Maybe not 'easy' but certainly more doable. Going from a 39/25 to a
    39/27 on my road bike makes rides like this much more pleasurable.

    https://www.strava.com/activities/3386734234

    My C'dale Habit3 came with a 22 small ring. I use it every year until my >>>> fitness increases then swap it out for a 24 - the difference is noticable. >>>>

    Chain rings do make more of different from memory went from 32/48 to 30/46 >>> on the Gravel bike and quite noticeable on the steeper grades, on road very >>> little that you can-At just spin up, off road gives one more of chance on >>> the technical climbs.

    My MTB being one of the 1st generation 29er has slightly overgeared drive >>> chain with a 24/38 chainset and a 36-11 cassette.

    The old commute bike in its original form ie a 26in hardtail had 22/32/44 >>> with a 11-34 which with a smaller diameter tyre ie 26in vs 29in and 2.1 vs >>> 2.4 does mean that that had approximately one gear lower than the 29er
    which was particularly use in the year or so post injury and hospital stay >>> where I was weak and recovering that, bike one could flatten even 20% road >>> climbs, slow it was not but ment I didn-At need to push a bike up a hill and
    risk overdoing it, walking was and remains something that fatigues me, and >>> will hurt if I do too much and hurt as stuff doesn-At work as before.

    Roger Merriman

    Walking a Catrike is close to impossible but not necessary. I can gear
    down to 21 inches which will move me at 4MPH at 65 RPM. Unlike when I
    rode two wheelers, I can ride even slower if, as I get older I might
    have to do on some of the moderate 5-7% grades I encounter. Replacing
    the 54T big ring with a 50T made my rides nicer as I no longer need to
    downshift the front when I have start up on the small up grades that I
    encunter when crossing a highway.

    I went 1by on the old MTB as I donrCOt need low gears for the commute and the triple you were always hovering between the big and middle chain rings, and was just annoying! The only *hill* being the flyover which is maybe 5% probably about the same as the underpass, which due to that bikes weight 26 inches is a touch tall gearing, the roadie with 33 inches feels lower
    though itrCOs arguably has gearing that is too tall for my uses, particularly the 50T big ring, that with a 28t cassette yes I will change that as it
    wear out, which if it lasts the same length of miles will be in about two years time! Though looking at how cheap they are might do that sooner than later, as a 11-32/34 cassette would mean IrCOm not faffing with chainrings just at junctions etc.

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman


    Roger Merriman

    All this reminds me of my younger days back some almost 20 years ago I
    could ride a standard double on a road bike no issues. The 53/39 and I
    think the rear was like 11-28. I could get away with then because I live
    in the flats but could manage if I had most places. Today the 50/34 and
    11-34 is where I must be. I am not sure I could get up some grades on
    that either if they were real long.
    --
    Deacon Mark
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  • From Catrike Ryder@Soloman@old.bikers.org to rec.bicycles.tech on Sun Feb 1 15:06:27 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    On Sun, 1 Feb 2026 13:57:05 -0600, Mark J cleary
    <mcleary08@comcast.net> wrote:

    On 2/1/2026 1:16 PM, Roger Merriman wrote:
    Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
    On 31 Jan 2026 15:03:03 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:

    zen cycle <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On 1/29/2026 8:46 AM, Roger Merriman wrote:
    AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
    On 1/28/2026 4:55 PM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Wed Jan 28 11:51:16 2026 AMuzi wrote:
    On 1/28/2026 11:34 AM, cyclintom wrote:
    I put in almost 40 miles today and am seriously thinking of doing >>>>>>>>>> perhqps another 30 tomorrow instead of a rest day. If I do that and >>>>>>>>>> then do another njormal Thursday ride I will have as many miles this >>>>>>>>>> month as I had in January of last uear before my stroke.

    While trying to get the triple set-up on the Schwinn 564 it etruck me
    that if I put a triple on my Moser, I woule be able to do the climbing
    rides I used to do though at a reduced speed. My average heart rate >>>>>>>>>> was 112 bpm today. And that with an average speed of 11 mph. Most of >>>>>>>>>> the ride was at 14 or so mph not counting the stop lights.

    Modern compacts in, for example, 48x32 have mostly displaced >>>>>>>>> triples. You might look into that:

    https://www.campagnolo.com/us-en/chorus-crankset-12x2-speed/CFCCHORUS12S.html

    In that a 53x11 is 130 inches (!!) and a 48x11 is a still
    plenty long 117 inches, you'll likely not run out of high
    gearing with a modern 2x setup





    I considered that but a 30/32 tooth bottom end is substantially better >>>>>>>> than a 32/32. I even have a 28 on 74 mm centers around here somwwhere. >>>>>>>

    6% lower, in fact.
    Whether that's substantial or not is up to you.


    My various gravel bikes have used 30/32t chain rings and 32/34/36t >>>>>> cassettes, two teeth is noticeable but it?s realistically half a shift, >>>>>> it?s not going to make a near impossible climb suddenly easy,

    Maybe not 'easy' but certainly more doable. Going from a 39/25 to a
    39/27 on my road bike makes rides like this much more pleasurable.

    https://www.strava.com/activities/3386734234

    My C'dale Habit3 came with a 22 small ring. I use it every year until my >>>>> fitness increases then swap it out for a 24 - the difference is noticable.


    Chain rings do make more of different from memory went from 32/48 to 30/46 >>>> on the Gravel bike and quite noticeable on the steeper grades, on road very
    little that you can?t just spin up, off road gives one more of chance on >>>> the technical climbs.

    My MTB being one of the 1st generation 29er has slightly overgeared drive >>>> chain with a 24/38 chainset and a 36-11 cassette.

    The old commute bike in its original form ie a 26in hardtail had 22/32/44 >>>> with a 11-34 which with a smaller diameter tyre ie 26in vs 29in and 2.1 vs >>>> 2.4 does mean that that had approximately one gear lower than the 29er >>>> which was particularly use in the year or so post injury and hospital stay >>>> where I was weak and recovering that, bike one could flatten even 20% road >>>> climbs, slow it was not but ment I didn?t need to push a bike up a hill and
    risk overdoing it, walking was and remains something that fatigues me, and >>>> will hurt if I do too much and hurt as stuff doesn?t work as before.

    Roger Merriman

    Walking a Catrike is close to impossible but not necessary. I can gear
    down to 21 inches which will move me at 4MPH at 65 RPM. Unlike when I
    rode two wheelers, I can ride even slower if, as I get older I might
    have to do on some of the moderate 5-7% grades I encounter. Replacing
    the 54T big ring with a 50T made my rides nicer as I no longer need to
    downshift the front when I have start up on the small up grades that I
    encunter when crossing a highway.

    I went 1by on the old MTB as I donAt need low gears for the commute and the >> triple you were always hovering between the big and middle chain rings, and >> was just annoying! The only *hill* being the flyover which is maybe 5%
    probably about the same as the underpass, which due to that bikes weight 26 >> inches is a touch tall gearing, the roadie with 33 inches feels lower
    though itAs arguably has gearing that is too tall for my uses, particularly >> the 50T big ring, that with a 28t cassette yes I will change that as it
    wear out, which if it lasts the same length of miles will be in about two
    years time! Though looking at how cheap they are might do that sooner than >> later, as a 11-32/34 cassette would mean IAm not faffing with chainrings
    just at junctions etc.

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman


    Roger Merriman

    All this reminds me of my younger days back some almost 20 years ago I
    could ride a standard double on a road bike no issues. The 53/39 and I
    think the rear was like 11-28. I could get away with then because I live
    in the flats but could manage if I had most places. Today the 50/34 and >11-34 is where I must be. I am not sure I could get up some grades on
    that either if they were real long.

    My triple is 50/38/30 with an 11/36 cassette. I think with that
    cassette, I could live with a 50/34 double, but I'm happy with the
    triple.

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman
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  • From Roger Merriman@roger@sarlet.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Mon Feb 2 00:20:23 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    Mark J cleary <mcleary08@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 2/1/2026 1:16 PM, Roger Merriman wrote:
    Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
    On 31 Jan 2026 15:03:03 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:

    zen cycle <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On 1/29/2026 8:46 AM, Roger Merriman wrote:
    AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
    On 1/28/2026 4:55 PM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Wed Jan 28 11:51:16 2026 AMuzi wrote:
    On 1/28/2026 11:34 AM, cyclintom wrote:
    I put in almost 40 miles today and am seriously thinking of doing >>>>>>>>>> perhqps another 30 tomorrow instead of a rest day. If I do that and >>>>>>>>>> then do another njormal Thursday ride I will have as many miles this >>>>>>>>>> month as I had in January of last uear before my stroke.

    While trying to get the triple set-up on the Schwinn 564 it etruck me
    that if I put a triple on my Moser, I woule be able to do the climbing
    rides I used to do though at a reduced speed. My average heart rate >>>>>>>>>> was 112 bpm today. And that with an average speed of 11 mph. Most of >>>>>>>>>> the ride was at 14 or so mph not counting the stop lights.

    Modern compacts in, for example, 48x32 have mostly displaced >>>>>>>>> triples. You might look into that:

    https://www.campagnolo.com/us-en/chorus-crankset-12x2-speed/CFCCHORUS12S.html

    In that a 53x11 is 130 inches (!!) and a 48x11 is a still
    plenty long 117 inches, you'll likely not run out of high
    gearing with a modern 2x setup





    I considered that but a 30/32 tooth bottom end is substantially better >>>>>>>> than a 32/32. I even have a 28 on 74 mm centers around here somwwhere. >>>>>>>

    6% lower, in fact.
    Whether that's substantial or not is up to you.


    My various gravel bikes have used 30/32t chain rings and 32/34/36t >>>>>> cassettes, two teeth is noticeable but it-As realistically half a shift, >>>>>> it-As not going to make a near impossible climb suddenly easy,

    Maybe not 'easy' but certainly more doable. Going from a 39/25 to a
    39/27 on my road bike makes rides like this much more pleasurable.

    https://www.strava.com/activities/3386734234

    My C'dale Habit3 came with a 22 small ring. I use it every year until my >>>>> fitness increases then swap it out for a 24 - the difference is noticable.


    Chain rings do make more of different from memory went from 32/48 to 30/46 >>>> on the Gravel bike and quite noticeable on the steeper grades, on road very
    little that you can-At just spin up, off road gives one more of chance on >>>> the technical climbs.

    My MTB being one of the 1st generation 29er has slightly overgeared drive >>>> chain with a 24/38 chainset and a 36-11 cassette.

    The old commute bike in its original form ie a 26in hardtail had 22/32/44 >>>> with a 11-34 which with a smaller diameter tyre ie 26in vs 29in and 2.1 vs >>>> 2.4 does mean that that had approximately one gear lower than the 29er >>>> which was particularly use in the year or so post injury and hospital stay >>>> where I was weak and recovering that, bike one could flatten even 20% road >>>> climbs, slow it was not but ment I didn-At need to push a bike up a hill and
    risk overdoing it, walking was and remains something that fatigues me, and >>>> will hurt if I do too much and hurt as stuff doesn-At work as before.

    Roger Merriman

    Walking a Catrike is close to impossible but not necessary. I can gear
    down to 21 inches which will move me at 4MPH at 65 RPM. Unlike when I
    rode two wheelers, I can ride even slower if, as I get older I might
    have to do on some of the moderate 5-7% grades I encounter. Replacing
    the 54T big ring with a 50T made my rides nicer as I no longer need to
    downshift the front when I have start up on the small up grades that I
    encunter when crossing a highway.

    I went 1by on the old MTB as I donrCOt need low gears for the commute and the
    triple you were always hovering between the big and middle chain rings, and >> was just annoying! The only *hill* being the flyover which is maybe 5%
    probably about the same as the underpass, which due to that bikes weight 26 >> inches is a touch tall gearing, the roadie with 33 inches feels lower
    though itrCOs arguably has gearing that is too tall for my uses, particularly
    the 50T big ring, that with a 28t cassette yes I will change that as it
    wear out, which if it lasts the same length of miles will be in about two
    years time! Though looking at how cheap they are might do that sooner than >> later, as a 11-32/34 cassette would mean IrCOm not faffing with chainrings >> just at junctions etc.

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman


    Roger Merriman

    All this reminds me of my younger days back some almost 20 years ago I
    could ride a standard double on a road bike no issues. The 53/39 and I
    think the rear was like 11-28. I could get away with then because I live
    in the flats but could manage if I had most places. Today the 50/34 and 11-34 is where I must be. I am not sure I could get up some grades on
    that either if they were real long.

    Even with the same bike aka the old school roadie, if as I do very
    occasionally take it for a spin than the commute itrCOs gearing works fine,
    as IrCOm generally just spinning along and I have a empty or at least nothing heavy in the pannier. It would be hard work in wales where the land is
    hilly and the climbs tend to be steep but for the more rolling hills of
    london and even the North Downs itrCOs fine.

    Much like for that bike IrCOm generally unbothered by the rim brakes and
    there comparatively lack of oomph compared to the other bikes which have hydraulic disks but for that bike and how I use it itrCOs fine.

    Roger Merriman

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@cyclintom@yahoo.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Mon Feb 2 21:25:21 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    On Thu Jan 29 13:46:22 2026 Roger Merriman wrote:
    AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
    On 1/28/2026 4:55 PM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Wed Jan 28 11:51:16 2026 AMuzi wrote:
    On 1/28/2026 11:34 AM, cyclintom wrote:
    I put in almost 40 miles today and am seriously thinking of doing
    perhqps another 30 tomorrow instead of a rest day. If I do that and
    then do another njormal Thursday ride I will have as many miles this >>>> month as I had in January of last uear before my stroke.

    While trying to get the triple set-up on the Schwinn 564 it etruck me >>>> that if I put a triple on my Moser, I woule be able to do the climbing >>>> rides I used to do though at a reduced speed. My average heart rate
    was 112 bpm today. And that with an average speed of 11 mph. Most of >>>> the ride was at 14 or so mph not counting the stop lights.

    Modern compacts in, for example, 48x32 have mostly displaced
    triples. You might look into that:

    https://www.campagnolo.com/us-en/chorus-crankset-12x2-speed/CFCCHORUS12S.html

    In that a 53x11 is 130 inches (!!) and a 48x11 is a still
    plenty long 117 inches, you'll likely not run out of high
    gearing with a modern 2x setup





    I considered that but a 30/32 tooth bottom end is substantially better
    than a 32/32. I even have a 28 on 74 mm centers around here somwwhere.


    6% lower, in fact.
    Whether that's substantial or not is up to you.


    My various gravel bikes have used 30/32t chain rings and 32/34/36t
    cassettes, two teeth is noticeable but it?s realistically half a shift,
    it?s not going to make a near impossible climb suddenly easy, unlike after the hospital years ago taking the MTB up some of the North downs road
    climbs and even in my weaken state, could just spin over the 20% sections,
    at admittedly barely walking pace but well gearing works!

    I also think he?d be better with a sub compact such as a 30/46 GRX etc that
    I have.
    You're correct that you can't turn a sow's ear into a golden fleece, but my problem is haviong problems on real climbs. Those that normal people ride. I am getting to the point that I can't do long 8% climbs. A 30/32 can make a difference in riding to the top and stopping three times.
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