• Bicycle Race Disrupted

    From AMuzi@am@yellowjersey.org to rec.bicycles.tech on Sun Jan 25 09:52:21 2026
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    https://nypost.com/2026/01/25/world-news/kangaroo-causes-chaos-during-bike-tour-bikers-injured/
    --
    Andrew Muzi
    am@yellowjersey.org
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971

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  • From Mark J cleary@mcleary08@comcast.net to rec.bicycles.tech on Sun Jan 25 12:20:14 2026
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    On 1/25/2026 9:52 AM, AMuzi wrote:
    https://nypost.com/2026/01/25/world-news/kangaroo-causes-chaos-during- bike-tour-bikers-injured/


    Sort of like hitting a deer I except my understanding is Kangaroos are
    fully grown are quite power animals.
    --
    Deacon Mark
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  • From Roger Merriman@roger@sarlet.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Sun Jan 25 19:07:01 2026
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    Mark J cleary <mcleary08@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 1/25/2026 9:52 AM, AMuzi wrote:
    https://nypost.com/2026/01/25/world-news/kangaroo-causes-chaos-during-
    bike-tour-bikers-injured/


    Sort of like hitting a deer I except my understanding is Kangaroos are
    fully grown are quite power animals.

    Can be approximately human sized in mass, though lot of deer are a lot
    smaller, some such as the Red Deer which is wild but managed in Londons
    Royal Parks ie no contact bar occasionally get food in winter with a bail
    left for them, and they culled, itrCOs a common Deer in Europe and in places
    in the UK, and is one of the larger deers, comfortably 2/3 times a humans
    mass.

    Ie big large animals that require some respect!

    Roger Merriman

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  • From AMuzi@am@yellowjersey.org to rec.bicycles.tech on Sun Jan 25 13:58:54 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    On 1/25/2026 1:07 PM, Roger Merriman wrote:
    Mark J cleary <mcleary08@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 1/25/2026 9:52 AM, AMuzi wrote:
    https://nypost.com/2026/01/25/world-news/kangaroo-causes-chaos-during-
    bike-tour-bikers-injured/


    Sort of like hitting a deer I except my understanding is Kangaroos are
    fully grown are quite power animals.

    Can be approximately human sized in mass, though lot of deer are a lot smaller, some such as the Red Deer which is wild but managed in Londons
    Royal Parks ie no contact bar occasionally get food in winter with a bail left for them, and they culled, itrCOs a common Deer in Europe and in places in the UK, and is one of the larger deers, comfortably 2/3 times a humans mass.

    Ie big large animals that require some respect!

    Roger Merriman


    Both have enough mass and speed to do real damage and
    sometimes even kill. Both get plenty of height. Both hunt
    by stealth, cascading through trees aiming for windshields.

    compare:

    https://tinyurl.com/mr2k26dv

    https://tinyurl.com/ypytetp8
    --
    Andrew Muzi
    am@yellowjersey.org
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971
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  • From Roger Merriman@roger@sarlet.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Sun Jan 25 20:34:54 2026
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    AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
    On 1/25/2026 1:07 PM, Roger Merriman wrote:
    Mark J cleary <mcleary08@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 1/25/2026 9:52 AM, AMuzi wrote:
    https://nypost.com/2026/01/25/world-news/kangaroo-causes-chaos-during- >>>> bike-tour-bikers-injured/


    Sort of like hitting a deer I except my understanding is Kangaroos are
    fully grown are quite power animals.

    Can be approximately human sized in mass, though lot of deer are a lot
    smaller, some such as the Red Deer which is wild but managed in Londons
    Royal Parks ie no contact bar occasionally get food in winter with a bail
    left for them, and they culled, itrCOs a common Deer in Europe and in places >> in the UK, and is one of the larger deers, comfortably 2/3 times a humans
    mass.

    Ie big large animals that require some respect!

    Roger Merriman


    Both have enough mass and speed to do real damage and
    sometimes even kill. Both get plenty of height. Both hunt
    by stealth, cascading through trees aiming for windshields.

    compare:

    https://tinyurl.com/mr2k26dv

    https://tinyurl.com/ypytetp8


    The fact that deer in particular tend to end up in the windscreen or rather though it is I believe why the Swedes have the Moose Test that the Mercedes
    A class which is a small but high city car failed spectacularly, larger
    higher cars donrCOt do well to be fair but they tend to slide off the road
    than end on their roof!

    Even sheep have potential, Welsh hills are predominantly sheep farms as
    such sheep are risk on the common land aka land that animal grazing is allowed/have rights to, let alone that sheep will wander into town etc.

    Roger Merriman
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  • From AMuzi@am@yellowjersey.org to rec.bicycles.tech on Sun Jan 25 15:01:00 2026
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    On 1/25/2026 2:34 PM, Roger Merriman wrote:
    AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
    On 1/25/2026 1:07 PM, Roger Merriman wrote:
    Mark J cleary <mcleary08@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 1/25/2026 9:52 AM, AMuzi wrote:
    https://nypost.com/2026/01/25/world-news/kangaroo-causes-chaos-during- >>>>> bike-tour-bikers-injured/


    Sort of like hitting a deer I except my understanding is Kangaroos are >>>> fully grown are quite power animals.

    Can be approximately human sized in mass, though lot of deer are a lot
    smaller, some such as the Red Deer which is wild but managed in Londons
    Royal Parks ie no contact bar occasionally get food in winter with a bail >>> left for them, and they culled, itrCOs a common Deer in Europe and in places
    in the UK, and is one of the larger deers, comfortably 2/3 times a humans >>> mass.

    Ie big large animals that require some respect!

    Roger Merriman


    Both have enough mass and speed to do real damage and
    sometimes even kill. Both get plenty of height. Both hunt
    by stealth, cascading through trees aiming for windshields.

    compare:

    https://tinyurl.com/mr2k26dv

    https://tinyurl.com/ypytetp8


    The fact that deer in particular tend to end up in the windscreen or rather though it is I believe why the Swedes have the Moose Test that the Mercedes
    A class which is a small but high city car failed spectacularly, larger higher cars donrCOt do well to be fair but they tend to slide off the road than end on their roof!

    Even sheep have potential, Welsh hills are predominantly sheep farms as
    such sheep are risk on the common land aka land that animal grazing is allowed/have rights to, let alone that sheep will wander into town etc.

    Roger Merriman

    Moose are a different scale altogether!

    It's 1500lb more or less of moose meat and it's already at
    windscreen height- no jumping needed.

    It's fortunate that moose are not a problem here. Deer are
    enough trouble.
    --
    Andrew Muzi
    am@yellowjersey.org
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971
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  • From Catrike Ryder@Soloman@old.bikers.org to rec.bicycles.tech on Sun Jan 25 17:27:34 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    On Sun, 25 Jan 2026 15:01:00 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

    On 1/25/2026 2:34 PM, Roger Merriman wrote:
    AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
    On 1/25/2026 1:07 PM, Roger Merriman wrote:
    Mark J cleary <mcleary08@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 1/25/2026 9:52 AM, AMuzi wrote:
    https://nypost.com/2026/01/25/world-news/kangaroo-causes-chaos-during- >>>>>> bike-tour-bikers-injured/


    Sort of like hitting a deer I except my understanding is Kangaroos are >>>>> fully grown are quite power animals.

    Can be approximately human sized in mass, though lot of deer are a lot >>>> smaller, some such as the Red Deer which is wild but managed in Londons >>>> Royal Parks ie no contact bar occasionally get food in winter with a bail >>>> left for them, and they culled, itAs a common Deer in Europe and in places >>>> in the UK, and is one of the larger deers, comfortably 2/3 times a humans >>>> mass.

    Ie big large animals that require some respect!

    Roger Merriman


    Both have enough mass and speed to do real damage and
    sometimes even kill. Both get plenty of height. Both hunt
    by stealth, cascading through trees aiming for windshields.

    compare:

    https://tinyurl.com/mr2k26dv

    https://tinyurl.com/ypytetp8


    The fact that deer in particular tend to end up in the windscreen or rather >> though it is I believe why the Swedes have the Moose Test that the Mercedes >> A class which is a small but high city car failed spectacularly, larger
    higher cars donAt do well to be fair but they tend to slide off the road
    than end on their roof!

    Even sheep have potential, Welsh hills are predominantly sheep farms as
    such sheep are risk on the common land aka land that animal grazing is
    allowed/have rights to, let alone that sheep will wander into town etc.

    Roger Merriman

    Moose are a different scale altogether!

    It's 1500lb more or less of moose meat and it's already at
    windscreen height- no jumping needed.

    It's fortunate that moose are not a problem here. Deer are
    enough trouble.


    My experiences in moose country (Colorado, Idaho, Montana) is that
    moose are not as likely to go unexpectantly dashing across the road as
    are deer. Moose are more likely to take their time as they have no
    real fear of humans and our mecahnical monsters.

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman
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  • From Roger Merriman@roger@sarlet.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Sun Jan 25 22:51:18 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
    On Sun, 25 Jan 2026 15:01:00 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

    On 1/25/2026 2:34 PM, Roger Merriman wrote:
    AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
    On 1/25/2026 1:07 PM, Roger Merriman wrote:
    Mark J cleary <mcleary08@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 1/25/2026 9:52 AM, AMuzi wrote:
    https://nypost.com/2026/01/25/world-news/kangaroo-causes-chaos-during- >>>>>>> bike-tour-bikers-injured/


    Sort of like hitting a deer I except my understanding is Kangaroos are >>>>>> fully grown are quite power animals.

    Can be approximately human sized in mass, though lot of deer are a lot >>>>> smaller, some such as the Red Deer which is wild but managed in Londons >>>>> Royal Parks ie no contact bar occasionally get food in winter with a bail >>>>> left for them, and they culled, it-As a common Deer in Europe and in places
    in the UK, and is one of the larger deers, comfortably 2/3 times a humans >>>>> mass.

    Ie big large animals that require some respect!

    Roger Merriman


    Both have enough mass and speed to do real damage and
    sometimes even kill. Both get plenty of height. Both hunt
    by stealth, cascading through trees aiming for windshields.

    compare:

    https://tinyurl.com/mr2k26dv

    https://tinyurl.com/ypytetp8


    The fact that deer in particular tend to end up in the windscreen or rather >>> though it is I believe why the Swedes have the Moose Test that the Mercedes >>> A class which is a small but high city car failed spectacularly, larger >>> higher cars don-At do well to be fair but they tend to slide off the road >>> than end on their roof!

    Even sheep have potential, Welsh hills are predominantly sheep farms as
    such sheep are risk on the common land aka land that animal grazing is
    allowed/have rights to, let alone that sheep will wander into town etc.

    Roger Merriman

    Moose are a different scale altogether!

    It's 1500lb more or less of moose meat and it's already at
    windscreen height- no jumping needed.

    It's fortunate that moose are not a problem here. Deer are
    enough trouble.


    My experiences in moose country (Colorado, Idaho, Montana) is that
    moose are not as likely to go unexpectantly dashing across the road as
    are deer. Moose are more likely to take their time as they have no
    real fear of humans and our mecahnical monsters.

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman


    Certainly in the parks the larger Red deer are generally much calmer, they arenrCOt quite as large as a moose but they are definitely big enough.

    The smaller deer are more skittish both in the parks and in the woods.

    Except for during the Rut when the Stags of the Red deer can and will just cross your path at speed, to contest another Stag or run away from another
    and so on.

    A friend ending up doing a endo on the commute due to this, as two younger stags rutting, got too close to one of the big 8+ pointers who charged them down, and lost itrCOs footing on the path, as he said I never realised how
    big there eyes where until I was on my front wheel as it slipped past me,
    he apparently needed a few cups of tea at work before he was of any use!

    Roger Merriman

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  • From James@james.e.steward@gmail.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Tue Jan 27 14:27:54 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    On 1/26/26 02:52, AMuzi wrote:
    https://nypost.com/2026/01/25/world-news/kangaroo-causes-chaos-during- bike-tour-bikers-injured/




    Kangaroos taking out cyclists happens more often than is reported.
    Especially during dry periods, when the grass on the road side is more plentiful than grass elsewhere, grazing animals like kangaroos and
    wallabies come to the edge of the roads more often.

    It doesn't need to be a big animal to cause a nasty crash. The faster
    the rider is going, the more likely a worse outcome.

    Kangaroo and wallaby strikes often seriously damage cars, too. Wombats
    are also notorious car wreckers.
    --
    JS
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  • From Radey Shouman@shouman@comcast.net to rec.bicycles.tech on Tue Jan 27 15:14:18 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> writes:

    Mark J cleary <mcleary08@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 1/25/2026 9:52 AM, AMuzi wrote:
    https://nypost.com/2026/01/25/world-news/kangaroo-causes-chaos-during-
    bike-tour-bikers-injured/


    Sort of like hitting a deer I except my understanding is Kangaroos are
    fully grown are quite power animals.

    Can be approximately human sized in mass, though lot of deer are a lot smaller, some such as the Red Deer which is wild but managed in Londons
    Royal Parks ie no contact bar occasionally get food in winter with a bail left for them, and they culled, itrCOs a common Deer in Europe and in places in the UK, and is one of the larger deers, comfortably 2/3 times a humans mass.

    Ie big large animals that require some respect!

    Not much of a left hook, though, something kangaroos seem to be pretty
    good at.
    --

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