On Thu, 10 Apr 2025 09:46:34 -0700, sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com>If he was only correcting my misinformation I wouldn't have anything to say, would I? The problem is that he has never worked as an electronics engineer and opretends that he's an EE. He isn't, Furthermoew, he has never been to any of the places he is telling you about and I have. He doesn't ride a bike and I do. So how is it that he believes that he can correct me about places I ride when he knows nothing about them? Right above he claimss that I am trying to gain attention when I am reporting on what I am doing with bicycles on a bicycle site, Clearly it is he who is the attention seeker since he is "correcting" my truthful claims about bicycle tech. Just the other day he was telling you all about my Strava reports when I allow no followers,
wrote:
On 4/10/2025 9:20 AM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
<snip>
Not quite right. I find that analyzing and exposing Tom's
fabrications, lies and amazing facts to be very entertaining, amusing
and educational in that it forces me to think and research areas which
have escaped my attention. I wouldn't call it infatuation. If you
count the number of my replies to Tom's claims and divide by the
number of Tom's posts during the same time period, you would probably
find that I reply to a very small percentage of his posts. If I were
genuinely infatuated with Tom's posts, one might expect me to reply to
all of Tom's posts.
I can recommend some volunteer opportunities if all you have to
entertain yourself is exposing Tom's misinformation.
I appreciate your efforts to provide me with entertainment, but that
will not be necessary. I had my retirement fairly well planned, but
thanks to the current inflationary spiral, it appears that my savings
will not be sufficient to allow me to maintain my lavish and decadent lifestyle. I'm currently dividing my time equally between retirement
and fixing computers, generators, chainsaws, yard equipment, etc.
Apparently, there's a demand for repair services. My favorite
automobile mechanic told me that he has a huge repair backlog.
Also, Tom seems to be enjoying the attention that I'm providing him
free of charge. He obviously wants to be the center of attention and
will gladly deflect any discussion in his direction. I wouldn't want
to deprive him of his daily dose of attention.
On Thu Apr 10 12:53:35 2025 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Thu, 10 Apr 2025 09:46:34 -0700, sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
wrote:
On 4/10/2025 9:20 AM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
<snip>
Not quite right. I find that analyzing and exposing Tom's
fabrications, lies and amazing facts to be very entertaining, amusing
and educational in that it forces me to think and research areas which
have escaped my attention. I wouldn't call it infatuation. If you
count the number of my replies to Tom's claims and divide by the
number of Tom's posts during the same time period, you would probably
find that I reply to a very small percentage of his posts. If I were
genuinely infatuated with Tom's posts, one might expect me to reply to
all of Tom's posts.
I can recommend some volunteer opportunities if all you have to
entertain yourself is exposing Tom's misinformation.
I appreciate your efforts to provide me with entertainment, but that
will not be necessary. I had my retirement fairly well planned, but
thanks to the current inflationary spiral, it appears that my savings
will not be sufficient to allow me to maintain my lavish and decadent
lifestyle. I'm currently dividing my time equally between retirement
and fixing computers, generators, chainsaws, yard equipment, etc.
Apparently, there's a demand for repair services. My favorite
automobile mechanic told me that he has a huge repair backlog.
Also, Tom seems to be enjoying the attention that I'm providing him
free of charge. He obviously wants to be the center of attention and
will gladly deflect any discussion in his direction. I wouldn't want
to deprive him of his daily dose of attention.
If he was only correcting my misinformation I wouldn't have anything to say, would I? The problem is that he has never worked as an electronics engineer and opretends that he's an EE. He isn't, Furthermoew, he has never been to any of the places he is telling you about and I have. He doesn't ride a bike and I do. So how is it that he believes that he can correct me about places I ride when he knows nothing about them? Right above he claimss that I am trying to gain attention when I am reporting on what I am doing with bicycles on a bicycle site, Clearly it is he who is the attention seeker since he is "correcting" my truthful claims about bicycle tech. Just the other day he was telling you all about my Strava reports when I allow no followers,
Liebermann is sick and there's no cure for someone that has to be the smartest man in the room when he is a moron, Sitting on my ass this last year my investments made me $100,000 dollars. Liebermann says that he doesn't believe it because he has never made real enbgineering wages. He wants me to give him my investment account ID.
He was "fact checking" me every day about Covid-19 when he knows NOTHING whatsoever about medicine. ALL of the "fact check" sites he was using proved to be 100% wrong. Wikipedia was so horribly wrong that they are nearly bankrupt and begging for donations. Should we pay the slightest attention at all of what Liebermann says? You seem to think that he is correct that I am an attention seeker by posting bicycle things on a bicycle site. So I have to ask why you are posting here at all?
On Tue, 20 Jan 2026 20:49:02 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Thu Apr 10 12:53:35 2025 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Thu, 10 Apr 2025 09:46:34 -0700, sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
wrote:
On 4/10/2025 9:20 AM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
<snip>
Not quite right. I find that analyzing and exposing Tom's
fabrications, lies and amazing facts to be very entertaining, amusing >>>>> and educational in that it forces me to think and research areas which >>>>> have escaped my attention. I wouldn't call it infatuation. If you
count the number of my replies to Tom's claims and divide by the
number of Tom's posts during the same time period, you would probably >>>>> find that I reply to a very small percentage of his posts. If I were >>>>> genuinely infatuated with Tom's posts, one might expect me to reply to >>>>> all of Tom's posts.
I can recommend some volunteer opportunities if all you have to
entertain yourself is exposing Tom's misinformation.
I appreciate your efforts to provide me with entertainment, but that
will not be necessary. I had my retirement fairly well planned, but
thanks to the current inflationary spiral, it appears that my savings
will not be sufficient to allow me to maintain my lavish and decadent
lifestyle. I'm currently dividing my time equally between retirement
and fixing computers, generators, chainsaws, yard equipment, etc.
Apparently, there's a demand for repair services. My favorite
automobile mechanic told me that he has a huge repair backlog.
Also, Tom seems to be enjoying the attention that I'm providing him
free of charge. He obviously wants to be the center of attention and
will gladly deflect any discussion in his direction. I wouldn't want
to deprive him of his daily dose of attention.
If he was only correcting my misinformation I wouldn't have anything to say, would I?
The problem is that he has never worked as an electronics engineer and opretends that he's an EE. He isn't,
Furthermoew, he has never been to any of the places he is telling you about and I have. He doesn't ride a bike and I do. So how is it that he believes that he can correct me about places I ride when he knows nothing about them?
Right above he claimss that I am trying to gain attention when I am reporting on what I am doing with bicycles on a bicycle site,
Clearly it is he who is the attention seeker since he is "correcting" my truthful claims about bicycle tech.
Just the other day he was telling you all about my Strava reports when I allow no followers,
Liebermann is sick and there's no cure
for someone that has to be the smartest man in the room
when he is a moron, Sitting on my ass this last year my investments made me $100,000 dollars.
Liebermann says that he doesn't believe it because he has never made real enbgineering wages. He wants me to give him my investment account ID.
He was "fact checking" me every day about Covid-19 when he knows NOTHING whatsoever about medicine.
ALL of the "fact check" sites he was using proved to be 100% wrong.
Wikipedia was so horribly wrong that they are nearly bankrupt and begging for donations.
Should we pay the slightest attention at all of what Liebermann says?
You seem to think that he is correct that I am an attention seeker by posting bicycle things on a bicycle site.
So I have to ask why you are posting here at all?
On Tue, 20 Jan 2026 20:49:02 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Thu Apr 10 12:53:35 2025 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Thu, 10 Apr 2025 09:46:34 -0700, sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
wrote:
On 4/10/2025 9:20 AM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
<snip>
Not quite right. I find that analyzing and exposing Tom's
fabrications, lies and amazing facts to be very entertaining, amusing >>>>> and educational in that it forces me to think and research areas which >>>>> have escaped my attention. I wouldn't call it infatuation. If you >>>>> count the number of my replies to Tom's claims and divide by the
number of Tom's posts during the same time period, you would probably >>>>> find that I reply to a very small percentage of his posts. If I were >>>>> genuinely infatuated with Tom's posts, one might expect me to reply to >>>>> all of Tom's posts.
I can recommend some volunteer opportunities if all you have to
entertain yourself is exposing Tom's misinformation.
I appreciate your efforts to provide me with entertainment, but that
will not be necessary. I had my retirement fairly well planned, but
thanks to the current inflationary spiral, it appears that my savings
will not be sufficient to allow me to maintain my lavish and decadent
lifestyle. I'm currently dividing my time equally between retirement
and fixing computers, generators, chainsaws, yard equipment, etc.
Apparently, there's a demand for repair services. My favorite
automobile mechanic told me that he has a huge repair backlog.
Also, Tom seems to be enjoying the attention that I'm providing him
free of charge. He obviously wants to be the center of attention and
will gladly deflect any discussion in his direction. I wouldn't want
to deprive him of his daily dose of attention.
If he was only correcting my misinformation I wouldn't have anything to say, would I?
lol...yeah, like that would happen...
The problem is that he has never worked as an electronics engineer and opretends that he's an EE. He isn't,
much more so that you ever claimed to be.
Furthermoew, he has never been to any of the places he is telling you about and I have. He doesn't ride a bike and I do. So how is it that he believes that he can correct me about places I ride when he knows nothing about them?
Because we don't need to have been to the moon to know it isn't made of cheese. The misinformation you consistently post is easily verifiable
and equally easily refutable. No one needs to have gone to cull canyon
to know that cattle grazing had no influence on the reservoir or it
would have been mentioned in the environmental reports posted on-line.
No one needs to have ridden to Moraga to be know that it hasn't gone
below freezing there in the past ten years - historical data is
available. No one needs to have ever assembled a bicycle to know that
cranks arms falling off are not a common occurrence for anyone with any competence whatsoever.
Right above he claimss that I am trying to gain attention when I am reporting on what I am doing with bicycles on a bicycle site,
Because what you post is always what you did and what you think, Which
is - by definition - seeking attention. You rarely post generic
technical messages which are intended to inform and invoke conversation
- every post you make is "me, I, me, I".......
Clearly it is he who is the attention seeker since he is "correcting" my truthful claims about bicycle tech.
Your "truthful" claims about bike tech have the frequency of a broken
clock. Jeff is providing an informative service to those who might think
you have a fucking clue.
Just the other day he was telling you all about my Strava reports when I allow no followers,
Which is yet another glaring example of your gross incompetence and
ignorance and belies the truth about your claims to have been a genius software engineer - Your strava account is visible to anyone with a
their own strava account you dumbass. I don't need to follow you to be
able to see that you rode 26.41 miles in 2 hours and 18 minutes past the airport and around San Leandro Bay yesterday.
Liebermann is sick and there's no cure
He admits his maladies freely.
for someone that has to be the smartest man in the room
No, tommy, that you be your claim.
when he is a moron, Sitting on my ass this last year my investments made me $100,000 dollars.
Which we all know is a lie because......
Liebermann says that he doesn't believe it because he has never made real enbgineering wages. He wants me to give him my investment account ID.
You've been saying that you make over $10K a month for the past 8 years.
If that were true you'd be worth well over $3 million now based on the
first available claim you made to the effect that you were worth over a million 8 years ago. Yet, you still claim to only be worth just over $1 million. That would mean you're spending over $10K a month - we know you aren't. Therefore, the claim that your worth $1m is due almost
exclusively to the value of your house, and you're living hand-to-mouth
on your SSI, as you blatantly stated in the forum many years ago.
Flunky, I have no doubt that you were hired as a degreed EE because they need you to sign off paperwork. But stop pretending that you could design anything. When I put that small section of C program up it was entirely Greek to you and all it did was flash a red/green LED to show charge level of a battery. Then you give me that BS "no one ever complained about my software before". Who did you think you were fooling?
He was "fact checking" me every day about Covid-19 when he knows NOTHING whatsoever about medicine.
Neither do you, and every claim you've ever made about covid is wrong.
ALL of the "fact check" sites he was using proved to be 100% wrong.
Very few of them are wrong.
Wikipedia was so horribly wrong that they are nearly bankrupt and begging for donations.
Wikipedia is and always has been a completely non-profit and commercial
free website that exists solely on donations. You have yet to ever prove
a wikipedia article wrong, and even yourself used wikipedia on a vapid
and desperate attempt to claim that the grand tours are considered
classics. Of course wikipedia didn't say that, but - as with so many
links you post to support your claims, they either don't mention what
you're claiming or actually contradict your claim
Should we pay the slightest attention at all of what Liebermann says?
Hmmm....Should we pay attention to someone who consistency backs up his claims with verifiable references, or someone who makes wild claims with
no references?
You seem to think that he is correct that I am an attention seeker by posting bicycle things on a bicycle site.
We do.
So I have to ask why you are posting here at all?
Because its fun watching you squirm.
On Wed Jan 21 05:24:01 2026 zen cycle wrote:
On Tue, 20 Jan 2026 20:49:02 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Thu Apr 10 12:53:35 2025 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Thu, 10 Apr 2025 09:46:34 -0700, sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
wrote:
On 4/10/2025 9:20 AM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
<snip>
Not quite right. I find that analyzing and exposing Tom's
fabrications, lies and amazing facts to be very entertaining, amusing >>>>>>> and educational in that it forces me to think and research areas which >>>>>>> have escaped my attention. I wouldn't call it infatuation. If you >>>>>>> count the number of my replies to Tom's claims and divide by the >>>>>>> number of Tom's posts during the same time period, you would probably >>>>>>> find that I reply to a very small percentage of his posts. If I were >>>>>>> genuinely infatuated with Tom's posts, one might expect me to reply to >>>>>>> all of Tom's posts.
I can recommend some volunteer opportunities if all you have to
entertain yourself is exposing Tom's misinformation.
I appreciate your efforts to provide me with entertainment, but that >>>>> will not be necessary. I had my retirement fairly well planned, but >>>>> thanks to the current inflationary spiral, it appears that my savings >>>>> will not be sufficient to allow me to maintain my lavish and decadent >>>>> lifestyle. I'm currently dividing my time equally between retirement >>>>> and fixing computers, generators, chainsaws, yard equipment, etc.
Apparently, there's a demand for repair services. My favorite
automobile mechanic told me that he has a huge repair backlog.
Also, Tom seems to be enjoying the attention that I'm providing him
free of charge. He obviously wants to be the center of attention and >>>>> will gladly deflect any discussion in his direction. I wouldn't want >>>>> to deprive him of his daily dose of attention.
If he was only correcting my misinformation I wouldn't have anything to say, would I?
lol...yeah, like that would happen...
The problem is that he has never worked as an electronics engineer and opretends that he's an EE. He isn't,
much more so that you ever claimed to be.
Furthermoew, he has never been to any of the places he is telling you about and I have. He doesn't ride a bike and I do. So how is it that he believes that he can correct me about places I ride when he knows nothing about them?
Because we don't need to have been to the moon to know it isn't made of
cheese. The misinformation you consistently post is easily verifiable
and equally easily refutable. No one needs to have gone to cull canyon
to know that cattle grazing had no influence on the reservoir or it
would have been mentioned in the environmental reports posted on-line.
No one needs to have ridden to Moraga to be know that it hasn't gone
below freezing there in the past ten years - historical data is
available. No one needs to have ever assembled a bicycle to know that
cranks arms falling off are not a common occurrence for anyone with any
competence whatsoever.
Right above he claimss that I am trying to gain attention when I am reporting on what I am doing with bicycles on a bicycle site,
Because what you post is always what you did and what you think, Which
is - by definition - seeking attention. You rarely post generic
technical messages which are intended to inform and invoke conversation
- every post you make is "me, I, me, I".......
Clearly it is he who is the attention seeker since he is "correcting" my truthful claims about bicycle tech.
Your "truthful" claims about bike tech have the frequency of a broken
clock. Jeff is providing an informative service to those who might think
you have a fucking clue.
Just the other day he was telling you all about my Strava reports when I allow no followers,
Which is yet another glaring example of your gross incompetence and
ignorance and belies the truth about your claims to have been a genius
software engineer - Your strava account is visible to anyone with a
their own strava account you dumbass. I don't need to follow you to be
able to see that you rode 26.41 miles in 2 hours and 18 minutes past the
airport and around San Leandro Bay yesterday.
Liebermann is sick and there's no cure
He admits his maladies freely.
for someone that has to be the smartest man in the room
No, tommy, that you be your claim.
when he is a moron, Sitting on my ass this last year my investments made me $100,000 dollars.
Which we all know is a lie because......
Liebermann says that he doesn't believe it because he has never made real enbgineering wages. He wants me to give him my investment account ID.
You've been saying that you make over $10K a month for the past 8 years.
If that were true you'd be worth well over $3 million now based on the
first available claim you made to the effect that you were worth over a
million 8 years ago. Yet, you still claim to only be worth just over $1
million. That would mean you're spending over $10K a month - we know you
aren't. Therefore, the claim that your worth $1m is due almost
exclusively to the value of your house, and you're living hand-to-mouth
on your SSI, as you blatantly stated in the forum many years ago.
He was "fact checking" me every day about Covid-19 when he knows NOTHING whatsoever about medicine.
Neither do you, and every claim you've ever made about covid is wrong.
ALL of the "fact check" sites he was using proved to be 100% wrong.
Very few of them are wrong.
Wikipedia was so horribly wrong that they are nearly bankrupt and begging for donations.
Wikipedia is and always has been a completely non-profit and commercial
free website that exists solely on donations. You have yet to ever prove
a wikipedia article wrong, and even yourself used wikipedia on a vapid
and desperate attempt to claim that the grand tours are considered
classics. Of course wikipedia didn't say that, but - as with so many
links you post to support your claims, they either don't mention what
you're claiming or actually contradict your claim
Should we pay the slightest attention at all of what Liebermann says?
Hmmm....Should we pay attention to someone who consistency backs up his
claims with verifiable references, or someone who makes wild claims with
no references?
You seem to think that he is correct that I am an attention seeker by posting bicycle things on a bicycle site.
We do.
So I have to ask why you are posting here at all?
Because its fun watching you squirm.
Flunky, I have no doubt that you were hired as a degreed EE because they need you to sign off paperwork. But stop pretending that you could design anything. When I put that small section of C program up it was entirely Greek to you and all it did was flash a red/green LED to show charge level of a battery. Then you give me that BS "no one ever complained about my software before". Who did you think you were fooling?
I was a good engineer doing important work and showed letters of recommendation proving it and was paid accordingly, All you've been able to do is whine that you don't believe it as if that effects my net worth! I suggest that you support Liebermann because you admire his intellect. You think that a man that took six years to get a four year degree is smart even though he never worked a single day as an engineer.
You are welcome on a bicycle group because you ride bicycles and occasionally have something of interest to say. Liebermann may have ridden a commuter but that was so long ago he thinks that pile of rusty broken down garbage, he showed us a picture of, represents something that Andrew would ride. The ONLY thing that Liebermann has said concerning bicycles is to contradict me about things that occured on my rides in places where he has never been and has no way of knowing about.
You supporting a jackass like that doesn't say much for you. It is time to grow up and admit your own failings. Although I cannnot remembe what was going on for the two years after my concussion I expect I was a prize asshole, but that was then and this is now. I am back to riding and building bikes and you are telling us about "virtual rides". That's OK, but please don't pretend that they are the same thing as actually riding out in open air and hedwinds.
On 1/21/2026 3:37 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Wed Jan 21 05:24:01 2026 zen cycle wrote:
On Tue, 20 Jan 2026 20:49:02 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Thu Apr 10 12:53:35 2025 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Thu, 10 Apr 2025 09:46:34 -0700, sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> >>>>>> wrote:
On 4/10/2025 9:20 AM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
<snip>
Not quite right. I find that analyzing and exposing Tom's
fabrications, lies and amazing facts to be very entertaining, amusing >>>>>>>> and educational in that it forces me to think and research areas which >>>>>>>> have escaped my attention. I wouldn't call it infatuation. If you >>>>>>>> count the number of my replies to Tom's claims and divide by the >>>>>>>> number of Tom's posts during the same time period, you would probably >>>>>>>> find that I reply to a very small percentage of his posts. If I were >>>>>>>> genuinely infatuated with Tom's posts, one might expect me to reply to >>>>>>>> all of Tom's posts.
I can recommend some volunteer opportunities if all you have to
entertain yourself is exposing Tom's misinformation.
I appreciate your efforts to provide me with entertainment, but that >>>>>> will not be necessary. I had my retirement fairly well planned, but >>>>>> thanks to the current inflationary spiral, it appears that my savings >>>>>> will not be sufficient to allow me to maintain my lavish and decadent >>>>>> lifestyle. I'm currently dividing my time equally between retirement >>>>>> and fixing computers, generators, chainsaws, yard equipment, etc.
Apparently, there's a demand for repair services. My favorite
automobile mechanic told me that he has a huge repair backlog.
Also, Tom seems to be enjoying the attention that I'm providing him >>>>>> free of charge. He obviously wants to be the center of attention and >>>>>> will gladly deflect any discussion in his direction. I wouldn't want >>>>>> to deprive him of his daily dose of attention.
If he was only correcting my misinformation I wouldn't have anything to say, would I?
lol...yeah, like that would happen...
The problem is that he has never worked as an electronics engineer
and opretends that he's an EE. He isn't,
much more so that you ever claimed to be.
Furthermoew, he has never been to any of the places he is telling you >>>>> about and I have. He doesn't ride a bike and I do. So how is it that >>>>> he believes that he can correct me about places I ride when he knows >>>>> nothing about them?
Because we don't need to have been to the moon to know it isn't made of
cheese. The misinformation you consistently post is easily verifiable
and equally easily refutable. No one needs to have gone to cull canyon
to know that cattle grazing had no influence on the reservoir or it
would have been mentioned in the environmental reports posted on-line.
No one needs to have ridden to Moraga to be know that it hasn't gone
below freezing there in the past ten years - historical data is
available. No one needs to have ever assembled a bicycle to know that
cranks arms falling off are not a common occurrence for anyone with any
competence whatsoever.
Right above he claimss that I am trying to gain attention when I am
reporting on what I am doing with bicycles on a bicycle site,
Because what you post is always what you did and what you think, Which
is - by definition - seeking attention. You rarely post generic
technical messages which are intended to inform and invoke conversation
- every post you make is "me, I, me, I".......
Clearly it is he who is the attention seeker since he is "correcting" >>>>> my truthful claims about bicycle tech.
Your "truthful" claims about bike tech have the frequency of a broken
clock. Jeff is providing an informative service to those who might think >>> you have a fucking clue.
Just the other day he was telling you all about my Strava reports
when I allow no followers,
Which is yet another glaring example of your gross incompetence and
ignorance and belies the truth about your claims to have been a genius
software engineer - Your strava account is visible to anyone with a
their own strava account you dumbass. I don't need to follow you to be
able to see that you rode 26.41 miles in 2 hours and 18 minutes past the >>> airport and around San Leandro Bay yesterday.
Liebermann is sick and there's no cure
He admits his maladies freely.
for someone that has to be the smartest man in the room
No, tommy, that you be your claim.
when he is a moron, Sitting on my ass this last year my investments
made me $100,000 dollars.
Which we all know is a lie because......
Liebermann says that he doesn't believe it because he has never made >>>>> real enbgineering wages. He wants me to give him my investment account ID.
You've been saying that you make over $10K a month for the past 8 years. >>> If that were true you'd be worth well over $3 million now based on the
first available claim you made to the effect that you were worth over a
million 8 years ago. Yet, you still claim to only be worth just over $1
million. That would mean you're spending over $10K a month - we know you >>> aren't. Therefore, the claim that your worth $1m is due almost
exclusively to the value of your house, and you're living hand-to-mouth
on your SSI, as you blatantly stated in the forum many years ago.
He was "fact checking" me every day about Covid-19 when he knows
NOTHING whatsoever about medicine.
Neither do you, and every claim you've ever made about covid is wrong.
ALL of the "fact check" sites he was using proved to be 100% wrong.
Very few of them are wrong.
Wikipedia was so horribly wrong that they are nearly bankrupt and
begging for donations.
Wikipedia is and always has been a completely non-profit and commercial
free website that exists solely on donations. You have yet to ever prove >>> a wikipedia article wrong, and even yourself used wikipedia on a vapid
and desperate attempt to claim that the grand tours are considered
classics. Of course wikipedia didn't say that, but - as with so many
links you post to support your claims, they either don't mention what
you're claiming or actually contradict your claim
Should we pay the slightest attention at all of what Liebermann says?
Hmmm....Should we pay attention to someone who consistency backs up his
claims with verifiable references, or someone who makes wild claims with >>> no references?
You seem to think that he is correct that I am an attention seeker by >>>>> posting bicycle things on a bicycle site.
We do.
So I have to ask why you are posting here at all?
Because its fun watching you squirm.
Flunky, I have no doubt that you were hired as a degreed EE because they
need you to sign off paperwork. But stop pretending that you could
design anything. When I put that small section of C program up it was
entirely Greek to you and all it did was flash a red/green LED to show
charge level of a battery. Then you give me that BS "no one ever
complained about my software before". Who did you think you were fooling?
I was a good engineer doing important work and showed letters of
recommendation proving it and was paid accordingly, All you've been able
to do is whine that you don't believe it as if that effects my net
worth! I suggest that you support Liebermann because you admire his
intellect. You think that a man that took six years to get a four year
degree is smart even though he never worked a single day as an engineer.
You are welcome on a bicycle group because you ride bicycles and
occasionally have something of interest to say. Liebermann may have
ridden a commuter but that was so long ago he thinks that pile of rusty
broken down garbage, he showed us a picture of, represents something
that Andrew would ride. The ONLY thing that Liebermann has said
concerning bicycles is to contradict me about things that occured on my
rides in places where he has never been and has no way of knowing about.
You supporting a jackass like that doesn't say much for you. It is time
to grow up and admit your own failings. Although I cannnot remembe what
was going on for the two years after my concussion I expect I was a
prize asshole, but that was then and this is now. I am back to riding
and building bikes and you are telling us about "virtual rides". That's
OK, but please don't pretend that they are the same thing as actually
riding out in open air and hedwinds.
It's regrettable that you don't have a parking lot and 150
feet of sidewalk to shovel clear of snow. Does wonders for
contemplation. Very calming.
AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 1/21/2026 3:37 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Wed Jan 21 05:24:01 2026 zen cycle wrote:
On Tue, 20 Jan 2026 20:49:02 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Thu Apr 10 12:53:35 2025 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Thu, 10 Apr 2025 09:46:34 -0700, sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> >>>>>>> wrote:
On 4/10/2025 9:20 AM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
<snip>
Not quite right. I find that analyzing and exposing Tom's
fabrications, lies and amazing facts to be very entertaining, amusing >>>>>>>>> and educational in that it forces me to think and research areas which
have escaped my attention. I wouldn't call it infatuation. If you >>>>>>>>> count the number of my replies to Tom's claims and divide by the >>>>>>>>> number of Tom's posts during the same time period, you would probably >>>>>>>>> find that I reply to a very small percentage of his posts. If I were >>>>>>>>> genuinely infatuated with Tom's posts, one might expect me to reply to
all of Tom's posts.
I can recommend some volunteer opportunities if all you have to >>>>>>>> entertain yourself is exposing Tom's misinformation.
I appreciate your efforts to provide me with entertainment, but that >>>>>>> will not be necessary. I had my retirement fairly well planned, but >>>>>>> thanks to the current inflationary spiral, it appears that my savings >>>>>>> will not be sufficient to allow me to maintain my lavish and decadent >>>>>>> lifestyle. I'm currently dividing my time equally between retirement >>>>>>> and fixing computers, generators, chainsaws, yard equipment, etc. >>>>>>> Apparently, there's a demand for repair services. My favorite
automobile mechanic told me that he has a huge repair backlog.
Also, Tom seems to be enjoying the attention that I'm providing him >>>>>>> free of charge. He obviously wants to be the center of attention and >>>>>>> will gladly deflect any discussion in his direction. I wouldn't want >>>>>>> to deprive him of his daily dose of attention.
If he was only correcting my misinformation I wouldn't have anything to say, would I?
lol...yeah, like that would happen...
The problem is that he has never worked as an electronics engineer >>>>>> and opretends that he's an EE. He isn't,
much more so that you ever claimed to be.
Furthermoew, he has never been to any of the places he is telling you >>>>>> about and I have. He doesn't ride a bike and I do. So how is it that >>>>>> he believes that he can correct me about places I ride when he knows >>>>>> nothing about them?
Because we don't need to have been to the moon to know it isn't made of >>>> cheese. The misinformation you consistently post is easily verifiable
and equally easily refutable. No one needs to have gone to cull canyon >>>> to know that cattle grazing had no influence on the reservoir or it
would have been mentioned in the environmental reports posted on-line. >>>> No one needs to have ridden to Moraga to be know that it hasn't gone
below freezing there in the past ten years - historical data is
available. No one needs to have ever assembled a bicycle to know that
cranks arms falling off are not a common occurrence for anyone with any >>>> competence whatsoever.
Right above he claimss that I am trying to gain attention when I am >>>>>> reporting on what I am doing with bicycles on a bicycle site,
Because what you post is always what you did and what you think, Which >>>> is - by definition - seeking attention. You rarely post generic
technical messages which are intended to inform and invoke conversation >>>> - every post you make is "me, I, me, I".......
Clearly it is he who is the attention seeker since he is "correcting" >>>>>> my truthful claims about bicycle tech.
Your "truthful" claims about bike tech have the frequency of a broken
clock. Jeff is providing an informative service to those who might think >>>> you have a fucking clue.
Just the other day he was telling you all about my Strava reports
when I allow no followers,
Which is yet another glaring example of your gross incompetence and
ignorance and belies the truth about your claims to have been a genius >>>> software engineer - Your strava account is visible to anyone with a
their own strava account you dumbass. I don't need to follow you to be >>>> able to see that you rode 26.41 miles in 2 hours and 18 minutes past the >>>> airport and around San Leandro Bay yesterday.
Liebermann is sick and there's no cure
He admits his maladies freely.
for someone that has to be the smartest man in the room
No, tommy, that you be your claim.
when he is a moron, Sitting on my ass this last year my investments >>>>>> made me $100,000 dollars.
Which we all know is a lie because......
Liebermann says that he doesn't believe it because he has never made >>>>>> real enbgineering wages. He wants me to give him my investment account ID.
You've been saying that you make over $10K a month for the past 8 years. >>>> If that were true you'd be worth well over $3 million now based on the >>>> first available claim you made to the effect that you were worth over a >>>> million 8 years ago. Yet, you still claim to only be worth just over $1 >>>> million. That would mean you're spending over $10K a month - we know you >>>> aren't. Therefore, the claim that your worth $1m is due almost
exclusively to the value of your house, and you're living hand-to-mouth >>>> on your SSI, as you blatantly stated in the forum many years ago.
He was "fact checking" me every day about Covid-19 when he knows
NOTHING whatsoever about medicine.
Neither do you, and every claim you've ever made about covid is wrong. >>>>
ALL of the "fact check" sites he was using proved to be 100% wrong.
Very few of them are wrong.
Wikipedia was so horribly wrong that they are nearly bankrupt and
begging for donations.
Wikipedia is and always has been a completely non-profit and commercial >>>> free website that exists solely on donations. You have yet to ever prove >>>> a wikipedia article wrong, and even yourself used wikipedia on a vapid >>>> and desperate attempt to claim that the grand tours are considered
classics. Of course wikipedia didn't say that, but - as with so many
links you post to support your claims, they either don't mention what
you're claiming or actually contradict your claim
Hmmm....Should we pay attention to someone who consistency backs up his >>>> claims with verifiable references, or someone who makes wild claims with >>>> no references?Should we pay the slightest attention at all of what Liebermann says? >>>>
You seem to think that he is correct that I am an attention seeker by >>>>>> posting bicycle things on a bicycle site.
We do.
So I have to ask why you are posting here at all?
Because its fun watching you squirm.
Flunky, I have no doubt that you were hired as a degreed EE because they >>> need you to sign off paperwork. But stop pretending that you could
design anything. When I put that small section of C program up it was
entirely Greek to you and all it did was flash a red/green LED to show
charge level of a battery. Then you give me that BS "no one ever
complained about my software before". Who did you think you were fooling? >>>
I was a good engineer doing important work and showed letters of
recommendation proving it and was paid accordingly, All you've been able >>> to do is whine that you don't believe it as if that effects my net
worth! I suggest that you support Liebermann because you admire his
intellect. You think that a man that took six years to get a four year
degree is smart even though he never worked a single day as an engineer. >>>
You are welcome on a bicycle group because you ride bicycles and
occasionally have something of interest to say. Liebermann may have
ridden a commuter but that was so long ago he thinks that pile of rusty
broken down garbage, he showed us a picture of, represents something
that Andrew would ride. The ONLY thing that Liebermann has said
concerning bicycles is to contradict me about things that occured on my
rides in places where he has never been and has no way of knowing about. >>>
You supporting a jackass like that doesn't say much for you. It is time
to grow up and admit your own failings. Although I cannnot remembe what
was going on for the two years after my concussion I expect I was a
prize asshole, but that was then and this is now. I am back to riding
and building bikes and you are telling us about "virtual rides". That's
OK, but please don't pretend that they are the same thing as actually
riding out in open air and hedwinds.
It's regrettable that you don't have a parking lot and 150
feet of sidewalk to shovel clear of snow. Does wonders for
contemplation. Very calming.
I find riding does that as well, lets one brain process stuff.
ItrCOs just largely been wet here, so no snow at least in London and Home Counties, higher land might well have some but here itrCOs more, is that a trail or a pond sort of thing!
With that in mind will be off to Hindhead on the weekend as itrCOs Sandy woods/Heathland and will show the folks the Atlantic wall that was used to train for D Day.
Roger Merriman
On 4/14/2025 4:27 PM, Shadow wrote:Ineed, there are laws restricting the USE of engineering titles for a very limited number of public works positions, but those are entirely made up by degreed engineers. It is in their best interest to limit access to certain jobs. My lungs were burned from poison gas because TWO PhD physicistgs couldn't figure out that you calculate poison gas density with a calculation for volume rather than spatual area. Are those the types of degreed physicists you would like protecting your life? Or would you prefer a non-degreed engineer that can tell the difference?
On Mon, 14 Apr 2025 16:45:02 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
I still have business cards issued to me by large companies assigning me the title of EE and/or Senior Software Engineer.
That would be fraud. "Large companies" cannot issue diplomas.
[]'s
No, but they can confer the title. I've worked with two non-degreed
engineers in the past, both had engineering titles and responsibilities. Those were both in private companies where they were "individual contributors". I doubt either of them would have been promoted to any
senior engineering or management role without degrees.
There's no law or rule in the US saying you can't be an engineer unless
you have a degree, but there are certain restrictions for what public
roles can be given to engineers, depending on which state you live in.
This especially applies to Civil or Electrical Engineering on public infrastructure projects.
On 1/21/2026 3:37 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Wed Jan 21 05:24:01 2026 zen cycle-a wrote:
Flunky, I have no doubt that you were hired as a degreed EE because
they need you to sign off paperwork.
But stop pretending that you
could design anything.
When I put that small section of C program up
it was entirely Greek to you and all it did was flash a red/green LED
to show charge level of a battery.
Then you give me that BS "no one
ever complained about my software before".
Who did you think you were
fooling?
I was a good engineer
doing important work
and showed letters of
recommendation proving it and was paid accordingly,
All you've been
able to do is whine that you don't believe it as if that effects my
net worth!
I suggest that you support Liebermann because you admire
his intellect.
You think that a man that took six years to get a four
year degree is smart
Again, no matter how many times you tell that lie, it will never becomeeven though he never worked a single day as an
engineer.
You are welcome on a bicycle group because you ride bicycles and
occasionally have something of interest to say.
Liebermann may have
ridden a commuter but that was so long ago he thinks that pile of
rusty broken down garbage, he showed us a picture of, represents
something that Andrew would ride.
The ONLY thing that Liebermann has
said concerning bicycles is to contradict me about things that occured
on my rides in places where he has never been and has no way of
knowing about.
You supporting a jackass like that doesn't say much for you.
It is
time to grow up and admit your own failings.
Although I cannnot
remembe what was going on for the two years after my concussion I
expect I was a prize asshole, but that was then and this is now.
I am
back to riding and building bikes and you are telling us about
"virtual rides".
That's OK, but please don't pretend that they are the
same thing as actually riding out in open air and hedwinds.
On 1/21/2026 3:37 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Wed Jan 21 05:24:01 2026 zen cycle-a wrote:
On Tue, 20 Jan 2026 20:49:02 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Thu Apr 10 12:53:35 2025 Jeff Liebermann-a wrote:
On Thu, 10 Apr 2025 09:46:34 -0700, sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> >>>>>> wrote:
On 4/10/2025 9:20 AM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
<snip>
Not quite right.-a I find that analyzing and exposing Tom's
fabrications, lies and amazing facts to be very entertaining, >>>>>>>> amusing
and educational in that it forces me to think and research areas >>>>>>>> which
have escaped my attention.-a I wouldn't call it infatuation.-a If you >>>>>>>> count the number of my replies to Tom's claims and divide by the >>>>>>>> number of Tom's posts during the same time period, you would
probably
find that I reply to a very small percentage of his posts.-a If I >>>>>>>> were
genuinely infatuated with Tom's posts, one might expect me to >>>>>>>> reply to
all of Tom's posts.
I can recommend some volunteer opportunities if all you have to
entertain yourself is exposing Tom's misinformation.
I appreciate your efforts to provide me with entertainment, but that >>>>>> will not be necessary.-a I had my retirement fairly well planned, but >>>>>> thanks to the current inflationary spiral, it appears that my savings >>>>>> will not be sufficient to allow me to maintain my lavish and decadent >>>>>> lifestyle.-a I'm currently dividing my time equally between retirement >>>>>> and fixing computers, generators, chainsaws, yard equipment, etc.
Apparently, there's a demand for repair services.-a My favorite
automobile mechanic told me that he has a huge repair backlog.
Also, Tom seems to be enjoying the attention that I'm providing him >>>>>> free of charge.-a He obviously wants to be the center of attention and >>>>>> will gladly deflect any discussion in his direction.-a I wouldn't want >>>>>> to deprive him of his daily dose of attention.
If he was only correcting my misinformation I wouldn't have
anything to say, would I?
lol...yeah, like that would happen...
The problem is that he has never worked as an electronics engineer
and opretends that he's an EE. He isn't,
much more so that you ever claimed to be.
Furthermoew, he has never been to any of the places he is telling
you about and I have. He doesn't ride a bike and I do. So how is it >>>>> that he believes that he can correct me about places I ride when he >>>>> knows nothing about them?
Because we don't need to have been to the moon to know it isn't made of
cheese. The misinformation you consistently post is easily verifiable
and equally easily refutable. No one needs to have gone to cull canyon
to know that cattle grazing had no influence on the reservoir or it
would have been mentioned in the environmental reports posted on-line.
No one needs to have ridden to Moraga to be know that it hasn't gone
below freezing there in the past ten years - historical data is
available. No one needs to have ever assembled a bicycle to know that
cranks arms falling off are not a common occurrence for anyone with any
competence whatsoever.
Right above he claimss that I am trying to gain attention when I am >>>>> reporting on what I am doing with bicycles on a bicycle site,
Because what you post is always what you did and what you think, Which
is - by definition - seeking attention. You rarely post generic
technical messages which are intended to inform and invoke conversation
- every post you make is "me, I, me, I".......
Clearly it is he who is the attention seeker since he is
"correcting" my truthful claims about bicycle tech.
Your "truthful" claims about bike tech have the frequency of a broken
clock. Jeff is providing an informative service to those who might think >>> you have a fucking clue.
Just the other day he was telling you all about my Strava reports
when I allow no followers,
Which is yet another glaring example of your gross incompetence and
ignorance and belies the truth about your claims to have been a genius
software engineer - Your strava account is visible to anyone with a
their own strava account you dumbass. I don't need to follow you to be
able to see that you rode 26.41 miles in 2 hours and 18 minutes past the >>> airport and around San Leandro Bay yesterday.
Liebermann is sick and there's no cure
He admits his maladies freely.
for someone that has to be the smartest man in the room
No, tommy, that you be your claim.
when he is a moron, Sitting on my ass this last year my investments >>>>> made me $100,000 dollars.
Which we all know is a lie because......
Liebermann says that he doesn't believe it because he has never
made real enbgineering wages. He wants me to give him my investment >>>>> account ID.
You've been saying that you make over $10K a month for the past 8 years. >>> If that were true you'd be worth well over $3 million now based on the
first available claim you made to the effect that you were worth over a
million 8 years ago. Yet, you still claim to only be worth just over $1
million. That would mean you're spending over $10K a month - we know you >>> aren't. Therefore, the claim that your worth $1m is due almost
exclusively to the value of your house, and you're living hand-to-mouth
on your SSI, as you blatantly stated in the forum many years ago.
He was "fact checking" me every day about Covid-19 when he knows
NOTHING whatsoever about medicine.
Neither do you, and every claim you've ever made about covid is wrong.
ALL of the "fact check" sites he was using proved to be 100% wrong.
Very few of them are wrong.
Wikipedia was so horribly wrong that they are nearly bankrupt and
begging for donations.
Wikipedia is and always has been a completely non-profit and commercial
free website that exists solely on donations. You have yet to ever prove >>> a wikipedia article wrong, and even yourself used wikipedia on a vapid
and desperate attempt to claim that the grand tours are considered
classics. Of course wikipedia didn't say that, but - as with so many
links you post to support your claims, they either don't mention what
you're claiming or actually contradict your claim
Should we pay the slightest attention at all of what Liebermann says?
Hmmm....Should we pay attention to someone who consistency backs up his
claims with verifiable references, or someone who makes wild claims with >>> no references?
You seem to think that he is correct that I am an attention seeker
by posting bicycle things on a bicycle site.
We do.
So I have to ask why you are posting here at all?
Because its fun watching you squirm.
Flunky, I have no doubt that you were hired as a degreed EE because
they need you to sign off paperwork. But stop pretending that you
could design anything. When I put that small section of C program up
it was entirely Greek to you and all it did was flash a red/green LED
to show charge level of a battery. Then you give me that BS "no one
ever complained about my software before". Who did you think you were
fooling?
I was a good engineer doing important work and showed letters of
recommendation proving it and was paid accordingly, All you've been
able to do is whine that you don't believe it as if that effects my
net worth! I suggest that you support Liebermann because you admire
his intellect. You think that a man that took six years to get a four
year degree is smart even though he never worked a single day as an
engineer.
You are welcome on a bicycle group because you ride bicycles and
occasionally have something of interest to say. Liebermann may have
ridden a commuter but that was so long ago he thinks that pile of
rusty broken down garbage, he showed us a picture of, represents
something that Andrew would ride. The ONLY thing that Liebermann has
said concerning bicycles is to contradict me about things that occured
on my rides in places where he has never been and has no way of
knowing about.
You supporting a jackass like that doesn't say much for you. It is
time to grow up and admit your own failings. Although I cannnot
remembe what was going on for the two years after my concussion I
expect I was a prize asshole, but that was then and this is now. I am
back to riding and building bikes and you are telling us about
"virtual rides". That's OK, but please don't pretend that they are the
same thing as actually riding out in open air and hedwinds.
It's regrettable that you don't have a parking lot and 150 feet of
sidewalk to shovel clear of snow. Does wonders for contemplation. Very calming.
On 1/21/2026 3:37 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Wed Jan 21 05:24:01 2026 zen cycle-a wrote:
Flunky, I have no doubt that you were hired as a degreed
EE because they need you to sign off paperwork.
They could have simply appointed any of the other EEs to do
that, dumbass, The amount of paperwork I actually have to
sign off takes a few minutes a month, they didn't need to
hire someone specifically for the job. One of the reasons I
was hired was for my demonstrated ability to understand and
negotiate complex Hazardous Location regulatory requirements
and interpret them for new designs. When I took the job they
had a contractor with 40 years experience doing the work. He
told me it was a 60 hour-per-week job. He wasn't wrong.
But stop pretending that you could design anything.
I never needed to pretend, my career successes speak for
them selves.
When I put that small section of C program up it was
entirely Greek to you and all it did was flash a red/
green LED to show charge level of a battery.
No matter how many times you tell that lie, it will never
become true. When I challenged you on the design
architecture, you had no clue where I even got the
information that you were using a 24 bit ADC in a program
you _allegedly_ wrote. The short answer was that you didn't
really write it. You may have loaded it into the PIC18F45
(entry-level technician work), but you certainly didn't
write it. If you had, you would have been able to tell me
why you needed a peripheral device with 24 bits of
resolution when the 10 bit ADC integrated into the uC was
more than adequate for that application and would have
reduced system complexity.
No, your answer was that you 'didn't design the hardware'.
Sorry sparky, a real software engineer understand the design
requirements for the system they are coding. The pretender
here is you, as you've demonstrated repeatedly in this forum.
Then you give me that BS "no one ever complained about my
software before".
No, I never wrote anything even remotely resembling that. I
could see that you never wrote that code, called you out on
it, and now you repeated lie about it.
Who did you think you were fooling?
unlike you, I don't need to fool anyone
I was a good engineer
bullshit
doing important work
bullshit
and showed letters of recommendation proving it and was
paid accordingly,
I do know you were paid according to what they thought you
were worth when they hired you - typical engineering
salaries which were at the time less than half of what
you're claiming.
I also know you were grossly overpaid based on your
demonstrated abilities.
I also know you horribly mismanaged (in no small part due to
your alcoholism) such that you now live exclusively on SSI,
as you admitted in this forum before creating fantasy tales
of investment successes.
In short, you're a broken, broke, old, little, bitch.
All you've been able to do is whine that you don't
believe it as if that effects my net worth!
The whining in this forum is your lies about how rich you are.
I suggest that you support Liebermann because you admire
his intellect.
I do consider him to be of much higher than average
intelligence, certainly well above your station.
You think that a man that took six years to get a four
year degree is smart
Well, it took me 8 because I went to school nights. Gee,
dumbass, how long did it take you to get your EE degree?
oh, right, you don't have one.
oh, right, you did claim to have some 4 year degree from a
community college that doesn't give 4 year degrees, that you
earned in 4 years while going nights while working full-
time. Suuuuuure......
Again, no matter how many times you tell that lie, it willeven though he never worked a single day as an engineer.
never become true. Jeff has literally talked technical
circles around you.
You are welcome on a bicycle group because you ride
bicycles and occasionally have something of interest to say.
You are in no way qualified to pass judgment on anyone's
worth in this forum, mr "me, I, me, I...."
Liebermann may have ridden a commuter but that was so
long ago he thinks that pile of rusty broken down
garbage, he showed us a picture of, represents something
that Andrew would ride.
I'm willing to bet not one of jeffs bikes never had the risk
of a crank arm falling off after he worked on it.
The ONLY thing that Liebermann has said concerning
bicycles is to contradict me about things that occured on
my rides in places where he has never been and has no way
of knowing about.
More lies, tommy....tsk tsk tsk.....
You supporting a jackass like that doesn't say much for you.
Way better than supporting a jackass like you.
It is time to grow up and admit your own failings.
lol....o the irony!
Although I cannnot remembe what was going on for the two
years after my concussion I expect I was a prize asshole,
but that was then and this is now.
And the difference _now_ would be......?
-aI am back to riding and building bikes and you are
telling us about "virtual rides".
Yup, because someone needs to inform you of how things work
in the modern world, mr "light lines"
That's OK, but please don't pretend that they are the
same thing as actually riding out in open air and hedwinds.
Care to point out where I ever claimed that? Indoor training
is almost a requirement in new england winters (Kudos to
Andrew and his hardy band of merry cyclists for braving the
North Plain winter). Besides that, my strava account clearly
shows regular and productive outdoor rides once the weather
cooperates. If you weren't such an ignorant arrogant buffoon
you'd be able to see that.
On 1/22/2026 4:56 AM, zen cycle wrote:
On 1/21/2026 3:37 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Wed Jan 21 05:24:01 2026 zen cycle-a wrote:
Flunky, I have no doubt that you were hired as a degreed
EE because they need you to sign off paperwork.
They could have simply appointed any of the other EEs to
do that, dumbass, The amount of paperwork I actually have
to sign off takes a few minutes a month, they didn't need
to hire someone specifically for the job. One of the
reasons I was hired was for my demonstrated ability to
understand and negotiate complex Hazardous Location
regulatory requirements and interpret them for new
designs. When I took the job they had a contractor with 40
years experience doing the work. He told me it was a 60
hour-per-week job. He wasn't wrong.
But stop pretending that you could design anything.
I never needed to pretend, my career successes speak for
them selves.
When I put that small section of C program up it was
entirely Greek to you and all it did was flash a red/
green LED to show charge level of a battery.
No matter how many times you tell that lie, it will never
become true. When I challenged you on the design
architecture, you had no clue where I even got the
information that you were using a 24 bit ADC in a program
you _allegedly_ wrote. The short answer was that you
didn't really write it. You may have loaded it into the
PIC18F45 (entry-level technician work), but you certainly
didn't write it. If you had, you would have been able to
tell me why you needed a peripheral device with 24 bits of
resolution when the 10 bit ADC integrated into the uC was
more than adequate for that application and would have
reduced system complexity.
No, your answer was that you 'didn't design the hardware'.
Sorry sparky, a real software engineer understand the
design requirements for the system they are coding. The
pretender here is you, as you've demonstrated repeatedly
in this forum.
Then you give me that BS "no one ever complained about
my software before".
No, I never wrote anything even remotely resembling that.
I could see that you never wrote that code, called you out
on it, and now you repeated lie about it.
Who did you think you were fooling?
unlike you, I don't need to fool anyone
I was a good engineer
bullshit
doing important work
bullshit
and showed letters of recommendation proving it and was
paid accordingly,
I do know you were paid according to what they thought you
were worth when they hired you - typical engineering
salaries which were at the time less than half of what
you're claiming.
I also know you were grossly overpaid based on your
demonstrated abilities.
I also know you horribly mismanaged (in no small part due
to your alcoholism) such that you now live exclusively on
SSI, as you admitted in this forum before creating fantasy
tales of investment successes.
In short, you're a broken, broke, old, little, bitch.
All you've been able to do is whine that you don't
believe it as if that effects my net worth!
The whining in this forum is your lies about how rich you
are.
I suggest that you support Liebermann because you admire
his intellect.
I do consider him to be of much higher than average
intelligence, certainly well above your station.
You think that a man that took six years to get a four
year degree is smart
Well, it took me 8 because I went to school nights. Gee,
dumbass, how long did it take you to get your EE degree?
oh, right, you don't have one.
oh, right, you did claim to have some 4 year degree from a
community college that doesn't give 4 year degrees, that
you earned in 4 years while going nights while working
full- time. Suuuuuure......
Again, no matter how many times you tell that lie, it willeven though he never worked a single day as an engineer.
never become true. Jeff has literally talked technical
circles around you.
You are welcome on a bicycle group because you ride
bicycles and occasionally have something of interest to
say.
You are in no way qualified to pass judgment on anyone's
worth in this forum, mr "me, I, me, I...."
Liebermann may have ridden a commuter but that was so
long ago he thinks that pile of rusty broken down
garbage, he showed us a picture of, represents something
that Andrew would ride.
I'm willing to bet not one of jeffs bikes never had the
risk of a crank arm falling off after he worked on it.
The ONLY thing that Liebermann has said concerning
bicycles is to contradict me about things that occured
on my rides in places where he has never been and has no
way of knowing about.
More lies, tommy....tsk tsk tsk.....
You supporting a jackass like that doesn't say much for
you.
Way better than supporting a jackass like you.
It is time to grow up and admit your own failings.
lol....o the irony!
Although I cannnot remembe what was going on for the two
years after my concussion I expect I was a prize
asshole, but that was then and this is now.
And the difference _now_ would be......?
-aI am back to riding and building bikes and you are
telling us about "virtual rides".
Yup, because someone needs to inform you of how things
work in the modern world, mr "light lines"
That's OK, but please don't pretend that they are the
same thing as actually riding out in open air and hedwinds.
Care to point out where I ever claimed that? Indoor
training is almost a requirement in new england winters
(Kudos to Andrew and his hardy band of merry cyclists for
braving the North Plain winter). Besides that, my strava
account clearly shows regular and productive outdoor rides
once the weather cooperates. If you weren't such an
ignorant arrogant buffoon you'd be able to see that.
+1
Licensed engineers can sign plans not because they are
'expert plan signers' but because they are charged with
assuring integrity/safety/function as drawn.-a They need
engineering skills for that assurance.
It's regrettable that you don't have a parking lot and 150You're no doubt correct. But I don't deny that Flunky has a good reason to ride indoors on a trainer, more that he shouldnj't be comparing a trainer to real riding.
feet of sidewalk to shovel clear of snow. Does wonders for
contemplation. Very calming.
They could have simply appointed any of the other EEs to do that,So you finally come clean about why your on the group continuously all day long and long after you've gone home. And then you told us that you're married!
dumbass, The amount of paperwork I actually have to sign off takes a few minutes a month, they didn't need to hire someone specifically for the
job. One of the reasons I was hired was for my demonstrated ability to understand and negotiate complex Hazardous Location regulatory
requirements and interpret them for new designs. When I took the job
they had a contractor with 40 years experience doing the work. He told
me it was a 60 hour-per-week job. He wasn't wrong.
I never needed to pretend, my career successes speak for them selves.
No matter how many times you tell that lie, it will never become true.
When I challenged you on the design architecture, you had no clue where
I even got the information that you were using a 24 bit ADC in a program
you _allegedly_ wrote. The short answer was that you didn't really write
it. You may have loaded it into the PIC18F45 (entry-level technician
work), but you certainly didn't write it. If you had, you would have
been able to tell me why you needed a peripheral device with 24 bits of resolution when the 10 bit ADC integrated into the uC was more than
adequate for that application and would have reduced system complexity.
No, your answer was that you 'didn't design the hardware'. Sorry sparky,
a real software engineer understand the design requirements for the
system they are coding. The pretender here is you, as you've
demonstrated repeatedly in this forum.
Then you give me that BS "no one
ever complained about my software before".
No, I never wrote anything even remotely resembling that. I could see
that you never wrote that code, called you out on it, and now you
repeated lie about it.
+1Andrew, I worked for 50 years as an EE and only ONCE was required to supply documentation other than construction plans or software. And that single case was NASA and they did NOT require that I have a degree. Are you too under the impression that a degree automatically gives you merit? Ask yourself why Liebermann never worked one day as an EE when he has a degree. From his comments he didn't even qualify as an electronics technician in the old Silicon Valley.
Licensed engineers can sign plans not because they are
'expert plan signers' but because they are charged with
assuring integrity/safety/function as drawn. They need
engineering skills for that assurance.
+1Andrew, I worked for 50 years as an EE and only ONCE was required to supply documentation other than construction plans or software. And that single case was NASA and they did NOT require that I have a degree. Are you too under the impression that a degree automatically gives you merit? Ask yourself why Liebermann never worked one day as an EE when he has a degree. From his comments he didn't even qualify as an electronics technician in the old Silicon Valley.
Licensed engineers can sign plans not because they are
'expert plan signers' but because they are charged with
assuring integrity/safety/function as drawn. They need
engineering skills for that assurance.
Today's example:I will ask you a couple of questions - India is a VERY strong believer in education and engineers there invariably have a degree. That is why the richest racial group in America are Indians.
https://nypost.com/2026/01/22/world-news/packed-fairground-ride-collapses-and-slams-into-wall-injuring-14/
"Looks OK, and under budget, too!" isn't as reliable as an
engineer actually calculating loads.
On Thu Jan 22 09:19:57 2026 AMuzi wrote:
Today's example:
https://nypost.com/2026/01/22/world-news/packed-fairground-ride-collapses-and-slams-into-wall-injuring-14/
"Looks OK, and under budget, too!" isn't as reliable as an
engineer actually calculating loads.
I will ask you a couple of questions - India is a VERY strong believer in education and engineers there invariably have a degree. That is why the richest racial group in America are Indians.
What in the world makes you think that it was some problem with engineering and not material or construction errors?
Surely you know better than that.
On Thu Jan 22 08:22:18 2026 AMuzi wrote:
+1
Licensed engineers can sign plans not because they are
'expert plan signers' but because they are charged with
assuring integrity/safety/function as drawn. They need
engineering skills for that assurance.
Andrew, I worked for 50 years as an EE and only ONCE was required to supply documentation other than construction plans or software.
And that single case was NASA and they did NOT require that I have a degree.
Are you too under the impression that a degree automatically gives you merit?
Ask yourself why Liebermann never worked one day as an EE when he has a degree. From his comments he didn't even qualify as an electronics technician in the old Silicon Valley.
You don't even begin to understand software and then tell everyone that I am not a software engineer AFTER you and Liebermann complained that Dr.Michael McCown only wrote a recomendation for my software engineering. Have you even once listened to yourself?
On Thu, 22 Jan 2026 20:57:45 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Thu Jan 22 08:22:18 2026 AMuzi wrote:
+1
Licensed engineers can sign plans not because they are
'expert plan signers' but because they are charged with
assuring integrity/safety/function as drawn. They need
engineering skills for that assurance.
Andrew, I worked for 50 years as an EE
and only ONCE was required to supply documentation other than construction plans or software.
Are you too under the impression that a degree automatically gives you merit?
Ask yourself why Liebermann never worked one day as an EE when he has a degree.
From his comments he didn't even qualify as an electronics technician in the old Silicon Valley.
On Thu, 22 Jan 2026 20:42:03 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
You don't even begin to understand software
and then tell everyone that I am not a software engineer AFTER you and Liebermann complained that Dr.Michael McCown only wrote a recomendation for my software engineering.
Have you even once listened to yourself?
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