https://www.rfi.fr/en/sports/20260113-vingegaard-targets-giro-d-italia- and-tour-de-france-double
On 1/13/2026 10:07 AM, AMuzi wrote:
https://www.rfi.fr/en/sports/20260113-vingegaard-targets-This may be a semantic quibble but Vingegaards plan for the
giro-d-italia- and-tour-de-france-double
classics is not to race them.
"the classics" refers to the series of one-day races of
historical significance better know as "the spring classics".
https://www.cyclingnews.com/spring-classics/
Of these, there are a four races also called "the
monuments": Milan-San Remo, Tour of Flanders, Paris-Roubaix, Li|?ge-Bastogne-Li|?ge (NOTE: The Giro di Lombardia is
considered the fifth Monument but is held in the fall)
Vingo has no one-day races on his schedule at all at this
point. All news reports show him concentrating exclusively
on stage races, with the UAE tour and the Volta a Catalunya
the only events on his schedule before the Giro d'Italia and
then no raves between the Giro and the Tour de France.
Calling the the grand tours "classics" is understandable,
but in the professional racing sphere a "classic" is a
completely different event from the Grand Tours: Giro
d'Italia, Tour de France, and Vuelta a Espana.
On 1/13/2026 10:07 AM, AMuzi wrote:
https://www.rfi.fr/en/sports/20260113-vingegaard-targets-giro-d-italia- and-tour-de-france-double
This may be a semantic quibble but Vingegaards plan for the classics is
not to race them.
"the classics" refers to the series of one-day races of historical significance better know as "the spring classics".
https://www.cyclingnews.com/spring-classics/
Of these, there are a four races also called "the monuments": Milan-San
Remo, Tour of Flanders, Paris-Roubaix, Li--- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
On 1/14/2026 4:50 AM, zen cycle wrote:
On 1/13/2026 10:07 AM, AMuzi wrote:
https://www.rfi.fr/en/sports/20260113-vingegaard-targets-> >> giro-d-italia- and-tour-de-france-doubleThis may be a semantic quibble but Vingegaards plan for the
classics is not to race them.
"the classics" refers to the series of one-day races of
historical significance better know as "the spring classics".
https://www.cyclingnews.com/spring-classics/
Of these, there are a four races also called "the
monuments": Milan-San Remo, Tour of Flanders, Paris-Roubaix,
Li--- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
On Wed Jan 14 05:50:06 2026 zen cycle wrote:
On 1/13/2026 10:07 AM, AMuzi wrote:
https://www.rfi.fr/en/sports/20260113-vingegaard-targets-giro-d-italia- >>> and-tour-de-france-doubleThis may be a semantic quibble but Vingegaards plan for the classics is
not to race them.
"the classics" refers to the series of one-day races of historical
significance better know as "the spring classics".
https://www.cyclingnews.com/spring-classics/
Of these, there are a four races also called "the monuments": Milan-San
Remo, Tour of Flanders, Paris-Roubaix, Lige-Bastogne-Lige (NOTE: The
Giro di Lombardia is considered the fifth Monument but is held in the fall) >>
Vingo has no one-day races on his schedule at all at this point. All
news reports show him concentrating exclusively on stage races, with the
UAE tour and the Volta a Catalunya the only events on his schedule
before the Giro d'Italia and then no raves between the Giro and the Tour
de France.
Calling the the grand tours "classics" is understandable, but in the
professional racing sphere a "classic" is a completely different event
from the Grand Tours: Giro d'Italia, Tour de France, and Vuelta a Espana.
There you have it from the person who can't even complete a virtual race
that the Giro de Italia isn't a classic.
cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Wed Jan 14 05:50:06 2026 zen cycle wrote:
On 1/13/2026 10:07 AM, AMuzi wrote:
https://www.rfi.fr/en/sports/20260113-vingegaard-targets-giro-d-italia- >>>> and-tour-de-france-doubleThis may be a semantic quibble but Vingegaards plan for the classics is
not to race them.
"the classics" refers to the series of one-day races of historical
significance better know as "the spring classics".
https://www.cyclingnews.com/spring-classics/
Of these, there are a four races also called "the monuments": Milan-San
Remo, Tour of Flanders, Paris-Roubaix, Lige-Bastogne-Lige (NOTE: The
Giro di Lombardia is considered the fifth Monument but is held in the fall) >>>
Vingo has no one-day races on his schedule at all at this point. All
news reports show him concentrating exclusively on stage races, with the >>> UAE tour and the Volta a Catalunya the only events on his schedule
before the Giro d'Italia and then no raves between the Giro and the Tour >>> de France.
Calling the the grand tours "classics" is understandable, but in the
professional racing sphere a "classic" is a completely different event
from the Grand Tours: Giro d'Italia, Tour de France, and Vuelta a Espana. >>
There you have it from the person who can't even complete a virtual race
that the Giro de Italia isn't a classic.
cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Wed Jan 14 05:50:06 2026 zen cycle wrote:
On 1/13/2026 10:07 AM, AMuzi wrote:
https://www.rfi.fr/en/sports/20260113-vingegaard-targets-giro-d-italia- >>> and-tour-de-france-doubleThis may be a semantic quibble but Vingegaards plan for the classics is
not to race them.
"the classics" refers to the series of one-day races of historical
significance better know as "the spring classics".
https://www.cyclingnews.com/spring-classics/
Of these, there are a four races also called "the monuments": Milan-San
Remo, Tour of Flanders, Paris-Roubaix, Lige-Bastogne-Lige (NOTE: The
Giro di Lombardia is considered the fifth Monument but is held in the fall)
Vingo has no one-day races on his schedule at all at this point. All
news reports show him concentrating exclusively on stage races, with the >> UAE tour and the Volta a Catalunya the only events on his schedule
before the Giro d'Italia and then no raves between the Giro and the Tour >> de France.
Calling the the grand tours "classics" is understandable, but in the
professional racing sphere a "classic" is a completely different event
from the Grand Tours: Giro d'Italia, Tour de France, and Vuelta a Espana.
There you have it from the person who can't even complete a virtual race that the Giro de Italia isn't a classic.
And he?d be right!Roger, that is arguable. Wikipedia says "Yes, the Grand Tours in cycling, which include the Giro d'Italia, Tour de France, and Vuelta a Espa--- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
Flunky, you seem to forget that I rfaced a lot of local races but was forced to quit when I burned myu lungs with poison gas. Don't even try to pretend that your racing was anywhere NEAR what the California racing scene is. Even which my lungs badly scarred, I could chase down the play racers running off from the riding groups. Would you like to pretend that you can speak more Italian than I can? I had two brothers of my grandmother that came from Istria.cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Wed Jan 14 05:50:06 2026 zen cycle wrote:
On 1/13/2026 10:07 AM, AMuzi wrote:
https://www.rfi.fr/en/sports/20260113-vingegaard-targets-giro-d-italia- >>>> and-tour-de-france-doubleThis may be a semantic quibble but Vingegaards plan for the classics is >>> not to race them.
"the classics" refers to the series of one-day races of historical
significance better know as "the spring classics".
https://www.cyclingnews.com/spring-classics/
Of these, there are a four races also called "the monuments": Milan-San >>> Remo, Tour of Flanders, Paris-Roubaix, Lige-Bastogne-Lige (NOTE: The
Giro di Lombardia is considered the fifth Monument but is held in the fall)
Vingo has no one-day races on his schedule at all at this point. All
news reports show him concentrating exclusively on stage races, with the >>> UAE tour and the Volta a Catalunya the only events on his schedule
before the Giro d'Italia and then no raves between the Giro and the Tour >>> de France.
Calling the the grand tours "classics" is understandable, but in the
professional racing sphere a "classic" is a completely different event >>> from the Grand Tours: Giro d'Italia, Tour de France, and Vuelta a Espana. >>
There you have it from the person who can't even complete a virtual race >> that the Giro de Italia isn't a classic.
There you have it from a person who never completed a single _real_ bike
race that the Giro d'Italia is a "classic".
The Classics are noted in the link I provided, dumbass. The grand tours aren't considered 'classics'. And by the way, there is no such thing as
the Giro de Italia. It's Giro d'Italia. If you said "Geero dee italia"
to an italian you'd get bitch-slapped, and you would deserve it (you
deserve to get bitch-slapped regardless). It's pronounced "Geero detalia".
On Wed Jan 14 20:33:53 2026 Roger Merriman wrote:
cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Wed Jan 14 05:50:06 2026 zen cycle wrote:
On 1/13/2026 10:07 AM, AMuzi wrote:
https://www.rfi.fr/en/sports/20260113-vingegaard-targets-giro-d-italia- >>>>> and-tour-de-france-doubleThis may be a semantic quibble but Vingegaards plan for the classics is >>>> not to race them.
"the classics" refers to the series of one-day races of historical
significance better know as "the spring classics".
https://www.cyclingnews.com/spring-classics/
Of these, there are a four races also called "the monuments": Milan-San >>>> Remo, Tour of Flanders, Paris-Roubaix, Lige-Bastogne-Lige (NOTE: The
Giro di Lombardia is considered the fifth Monument but is held in the fall)
Vingo has no one-day races on his schedule at all at this point. All
news reports show him concentrating exclusively on stage races, with the >>>> UAE tour and the Volta a Catalunya the only events on his schedule
before the Giro d'Italia and then no raves between the Giro and the Tour >>>> de France.
Calling the the grand tours "classics" is understandable, but in the
professional racing sphere a "classic" is a completely different event >>>> from the Grand Tours: Giro d'Italia, Tour de France, and Vuelta a Espana. >>>
There you have it from the person who can't even complete a virtual race >>> that the Giro de Italia isn't a classic.
And he?d be right!
Roger, that is arguable. Wikipedia says "Yes, the Grand Tours in cycling, which include the Giro d'Italia, Tour de France, and Vuelta a Espaa, are considered classic events due to their prestigious status and historical significance in the sport. They are the three major professional cycling stage races and are highly regarded in the cycling community"
It then goes on to say that they aren't classics in the conventional sense.
:
cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Wed Jan 14 20:33:53 2026 Roger Merriman wrote:
cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Wed Jan 14 05:50:06 2026 zen cycle wrote:
On 1/13/2026 10:07 AM, AMuzi wrote:
https://www.rfi.fr/en/sports/20260113-vingegaard-targets-giro-d-italia- >>>>>> and-tour-de-france-doubleThis may be a semantic quibble but Vingegaards plan for the classics is >>>>> not to race them.
"the classics" refers to the series of one-day races of historical
significance better know as "the spring classics".
https://www.cyclingnews.com/spring-classics/
Of these, there are a four races also called "the monuments": Milan-San >>>>> Remo, Tour of Flanders, Paris-Roubaix, Lige-Bastogne-Lige (NOTE: The >>>>> Giro di Lombardia is considered the fifth Monument but is held in the fall)
Vingo has no one-day races on his schedule at all at this point. All >>>>> news reports show him concentrating exclusively on stage races, with the >>>>> UAE tour and the Volta a Catalunya the only events on his schedule
before the Giro d'Italia and then no raves between the Giro and the Tour >>>>> de France.
Calling the the grand tours "classics" is understandable, but in the >>>>> professional racing sphere a "classic" is a completely different event >>>>> from the Grand Tours: Giro d'Italia, Tour de France, and Vuelta a Espana. >>>>
There you have it from the person who can't even complete a virtual race >>>> that the Giro de Italia isn't a classic.
And he?d be right!
Roger, that is arguable.
Wikipedia says "Yes, the Grand Tours in cycling,
which include the Giro d'Italia, Tour de France, and Vuelta a Espaa, are
considered classic events due to their prestigious status and historical
significance in the sport. They are the three major professional cycling
stage races and are highly regarded in the cycling community"
ThatrCOs a AI response from Google yourCOve quoted not Wikipedia! AI is as with
most smart tech, can be remarkably useless at times.
It then goes on to say that they aren't classics in the conventional sense. >> :Wikipedia page on classics gives a decent overview <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classic_cycle_races>
which to simplify are old one day races, not the Tours even if they have
been grouped together for certain years organisers.
And yes itrCOs a suitable vague definition that MonumentrCOs are used though we
now have two equally undefined terms! But that still doesnrCOt include the Tours as old as they are.
On 1/16/2026 3:11 PM, Roger Merriman wrote:
cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Wed Jan 14 20:33:53 2026 Roger Merriman wrote:
cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Wed Jan 14 05:50:06 2026 zen cycle wrote:
On 1/13/2026 10:07 AM, AMuzi wrote:
https://www.rfi.fr/en/sports/20260113-vingegaard-targets-giro-d-italia- >>>>>>> and-tour-de-france-doubleThis may be a semantic quibble but Vingegaards plan for the classics is >>>>>> not to race them.
"the classics" refers to the series of one-day races of historical >>>>>> significance better know as "the spring classics".
https://www.cyclingnews.com/spring-classics/
Of these, there are a four races also called "the monuments": Milan-San >>>>>> Remo, Tour of Flanders, Paris-Roubaix, Lige-Bastogne-Lige (NOTE: The >>>>>> Giro di Lombardia is considered the fifth Monument but is held in the fall)
Vingo has no one-day races on his schedule at all at this point. All >>>>>> news reports show him concentrating exclusively on stage races, with the >>>>>> UAE tour and the Volta a Catalunya the only events on his schedule >>>>>> before the Giro d'Italia and then no raves between the Giro and the Tour >>>>>> de France.
Calling the the grand tours "classics" is understandable, but in the >>>>>> professional racing sphere a "classic" is a completely different event >>>>>> from the Grand Tours: Giro d'Italia, Tour de France, and Vuelta a Espana.
There you have it from the person who can't even complete a virtual race >>>>> that the Giro de Italia isn't a classic.
And he?d be right!
Roger, that is arguable.
Only from people who have never really raced or aren't legitimate professional racing fans. Say for example, tommy, or AI.
Wikipedia says "Yes, the Grand Tours in cycling,
which include the Giro d'Italia, Tour de France, and Vuelta a Espaa, are >>> considered classic events due to their prestigious status and historical >>> significance in the sport. They are the three major professional cycling >>> stage races and are highly regarded in the cycling community"
No, wikipedia doesn't say that. You asked google AI if the grand tours
are considered classics.* You didn't ask Wikipedia, because wikipedia
only has a basic search engine. Wikipedia doesn't have the capacity to answer a question in the form of a repsonse. Here's what wikipedia says about the Grand Tours:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Tour_(cycling)
Search to page for the term 'classic' and you get two results, both from
a reference called "classic steel and vintage cycling"
Here's what wikipedia has to say about the "classics"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classic_cycle_races
"The classic cycle races are the most prestigious one-day professional
road cycling races in the international calendar."
"Until the 1980s there were originally eight recognised classics, the
five Monuments (see Cycling Monuments below) plus La Fl|?che Wallonne, ParisrCoBrussels and ParisrCoTours."
- note grand tours are not mentioned. That section https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classic_cycle_races#Classic_cycle_races
then goes on to list 38 races that have been considered 'classics' at
one time or another, none of them grand tours.
The page then goes on to make a distinction between the classics and the grand tours four more times.
"some classics formed part of the UCI ProTour run by the Union Cycliste Internationale. This event series also included various stage races including the Tour de France, Giro d'Italia, Vuelta a Espa|#a,
ParisrCoNice, and the Crit|-rium du Dauphin|- Lib|-r|-. "
"Many of the classics, and all the Grand Tours, were not part of the UCI ProTour for the 2008 season because of disputes between the UCI and the ASO,"
"After Li|?ge[rCoBastognerCoLi|?ge], the one-day races begin to give way to the stage races leading to the Grand Tours"
"Autumn classics
Following the end of the Vuelta a Espa|#a in early September, the nature
of the racing once more tends towards the one-day races."
At no point does the wikipedia page use the term Classic inclusive of
the grand tours.
ThatrCOs a AI response from Google yourCOve quoted not Wikipedia! AI is as with
most smart tech, can be remarkably useless at times.
Sorry Roger, let me fix that for you.
"AI is as with most smart tech and tommy, can be remarkably useless at times."
That's better.
It then goes on to say that they aren't classics in the conventional sense. >>> :Wikipedia page on classics gives a decent overview
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classic_cycle_races>
which to simplify are old one day races, not the Tours even if they have
been grouped together for certain years organisers.
And yes itrCOs a suitable vague definition that MonumentrCOs are used though we
now have two equally undefined terms! But that still doesnrCOt include the >> Tours as old as they are.
* the irony of this forums largest AI critic tommy using AI to support a demonstrably false claim isn't lost.
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