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    From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@cyclintom@yahoo.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Wed Jan 7 22:14:33 2026
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    On GCN they had a question from a viewer about a power meter reading much lower than the viewer thought he was making.
    Now I know that I am onoly making perhaps 100 watts, but I am continually passing groups or individuaols surprisingly fast. Equally Joe play racer on a Trek or Specialized S-works will come flying by me so fast it is quite easy to tell that my power is in the gutter. So people like Joe sport rider is likely to he led to believe that he can estimate his power output by speed and is then upset that a power meter doesn't return his estimation.
    On my ride yesterday, my heart rate monitor got a glich in it. It reaqd my averate heart rate correctly but for Max Hearr Rate is read 243 bpm which would kill most people in 2 seconds. Since I'm alive, obviously it was an incorrect readiung. But I wonder how that could have happened?
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  • From Roger Merriman@roger@sarlet.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Thu Jan 8 13:15:28 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:
    On GCN they had a question from a viewer about a power meter reading much lower than the viewer thought he was making.

    Now I know that I am onoly making perhaps 100 watts, but I am continually passing groups or individuaols surprisingly fast. Equally Joe play racer
    on a Trek or Specialized S-works will come flying by me so fast it is
    quite easy to tell that my power is in the gutter. So people like Joe
    sport rider is likely to he led to believe that he can estimate his power output by speed and is then upset that a power meter doesn't return his estimation.

    Most folks will not be riding to bury themselves, and as such will pass
    folks, if your remotely pushing on, on the commute where IrCOm definitely
    not, since I am a club rider and so on, I pass folks on a bike, even the illegal e bikes! Strava will give you an estimated weighted power, which
    claims 60/70ish for yourself and myself (for the commute) which is probably about right.

    Fit or at least competitive folks doing the summer/winter loop in the club
    seem to average 180/220 ish with power meters, the strava estimates are
    within the same range for the folks who donrCOt bother with meters.

    Can get pedal power meters which are dramatically cheaper if you want to
    try them out. I believe like lots of metrics itrCOs useful for comparison
    with your self less so to others.


    On my ride yesterday, my heart rate monitor got a glich in it. It reaqd
    my averate heart rate correctly but for Max Hearr Rate is read 243 bpm
    which would kill most people in 2 seconds. Since I'm alive, obviously it
    was an incorrect readiung. But I wonder how that could have happened?

    Heart rate monitors seem to be slightly prone to such stuff plus you seem
    to struggle with technology so the options are fairly broad!

    Roger Merriman

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@cyclintom@yahoo.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Thu Jan 8 16:15:31 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    On Thu Jan 8 13:15:28 2026 Roger Merriman wrote:
    cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:
    On GCN they had a question from a viewer about a power meter reading much lower than the viewer thought he was making.

    Now I know that I am onoly making perhaps 100 watts, but I am continually passing groups or individuaols surprisingly fast. Equally Joe play racer
    on a Trek or Specialized S-works will come flying by me so fast it is
    quite easy to tell that my power is in the gutter. So people like Joe
    sport rider is likely to he led to believe that he can estimate his power output by speed and is then upset that a power meter doesn't return his estimation.

    Most folks will not be riding to bury themselves, and as such will pass folks, if your remotely pushing on, on the commute where I?m definitely
    not, since I am a club rider and so on, I pass folks on a bike, even the illegal e bikes! Strava will give you an estimated weighted power, which claims 60/70ish for yourself and myself (for the commute) which is probably about right.

    Fit or at least competitive folks doing the summer/winter loop in the club seem to average 180/220 ish with power meters, the strava estimates are within the same range for the folks who don?t bother with meters.

    Can get pedal power meters which are dramatically cheaper if you want to
    try them out. I believe like lots of metrics it?s useful for comparison
    with your self less so to others.


    On my ride yesterday, my heart rate monitor got a glich in it. It reaqd
    my averate heart rate correctly but for Max Hearr Rate is read 243 bpm which would kill most people in 2 seconds. Since I'm alive, obviously it was an incorrect readiung. But I wonder how that could have happened?

    Heart rate monitors seem to be slightly prone to such stuff plus you seem
    to struggle with technology so the options are fairly broad!
    I was only interested somewhat in order to watch the degradation of my fitness as I ride. But I'm not willing to pay the sort of money it costs to watch what will only be a reducing number. In general, I make no effort to pass people but I will try to drop them if I pass them to keep out of their way if I do pass people and their general response is to try and keep up. I don't particularly like people I don't know drafting me because I don't know their skill level. And I'd just as soon not be crashed by someone.
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  • From Jeff Liebermann@jeffl@cruzio.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Thu Jan 8 09:51:15 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    On Wed, 07 Jan 2026 22:14:33 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    On my ride yesterday, my heart rate monitor got a glich in it. It reaqd my averate heart rate correctly but for Max Hearr Rate is read 243 bpm which would kill most people in 2 seconds. Since I'm alive, obviously it was an incorrect readiung. But I wonder how that could have happened?

    243 bpm sounds like AFiB (Atrial fibrillation): <https://www.ama-assn.org/public-health/chronic-diseases/what-doctors-wish-patients-knew-about-atrial-fibrillation>
    "Traditionally, weAve always associated the left top chamber of the
    heart as being the primary driver of atrial fibrillation, where the
    electrical signals get confused and chaotic. This causes the upper
    chambers of the heart to beat at an astonishing rate of 300 to 400
    beats per minute."

    Every Friday, I walk or hike in one of the local parks, typically with
    two friends. Both have AFiB. Both have Apple Watches to monitor
    their heart rate and ECG (electrocardiogram). <https://support.apple.com/en-us/120278>
    Because of the chaotic nature of their heartbeats, it is difficult to
    tell that the heart is racing a high speed, especially while walking.
    When the watch indicates >120 bpm, we stop until the heart slows down
    to something approaching normal, which typically takes about five
    minutes.

    Tom, I would normally offer some free advice. However, you usually
    reply with insults and ignore my advice. Therefore, you can work out
    a solution by yourself.

    Irrelevant drivel: I survived a PSMA-PET (prostate-specific membrane
    antigen - positron emission tomography) scan on Tues: <https://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/psma-pet-scan/about/pac-20582225> Nothing found. Anyway, it was fun playing with my 1950's geiger
    counter and watching the clicks go off scale. The fluorine-18 half
    life is about 110 minutes, so the radiation was gone by this morning.
    --
    Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
    PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
    Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272 AE6KS 831-336-2558

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  • From Mark J cleary@mcleary08@comcast.net to rec.bicycles.tech on Thu Jan 8 12:20:04 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    On 1/8/2026 11:51 AM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
    On Wed, 07 Jan 2026 22:14:33 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    On my ride yesterday, my heart rate monitor got a glich in it. It reaqd my averate heart rate correctly but for Max Hearr Rate is read 243 bpm which would kill most people in 2 seconds. Since I'm alive, obviously it was an incorrect readiung. But I wonder how that could have happened?

    243 bpm sounds like AFiB (Atrial fibrillation): <https://www.ama-assn.org/public-health/chronic-diseases/what-doctors-wish-patients-knew-about-atrial-fibrillation>
    "Traditionally, werCOve always associated the left top chamber of the
    heart as being the primary driver of atrial fibrillation, where the electrical signals get confused and chaotic. This causes the upper
    chambers of the heart to beat at an astonishing rate of 300 to 400
    beats per minute."

    Every Friday, I walk or hike in one of the local parks, typically with
    two friends. Both have AFiB. Both have Apple Watches to monitor
    their heart rate and ECG (electrocardiogram). <https://support.apple.com/en-us/120278>
    Because of the chaotic nature of their heartbeats, it is difficult to
    tell that the heart is racing a high speed, especially while walking.
    When the watch indicates >120 bpm, we stop until the heart slows down
    to something approaching normal, which typically takes about five
    minutes.

    Tom, I would normally offer some free advice. However, you usually
    reply with insults and ignore my advice. Therefore, you can work out
    a solution by yourself.

    Irrelevant drivel: I survived a PSMA-PET (prostate-specific membrane
    antigen - positron emission tomography) scan on Tues: <https://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/psma-pet-scan/about/pac-20582225>
    Nothing found. Anyway, it was fun playing with my 1950's geiger
    counter and watching the clicks go off scale. The fluorine-18 half
    life is about 110 minutes, so the radiation was gone by this morning.


    I have AFIB I guess all the time. My crash might have been the issue but
    I could have had it before then easily. I have zero symptoms at all. I
    don't have the traditional high heart rate. Mine after the crash was
    around 60-90. That is high for me given my resting heart rate is about
    45. I was not riding so my resting HR climbed a bit.

    They did put me on Carvedilol and beta blocker 25mg I took it 12.5 twice
    a day. Then after 2 months the cardiologist lowered it to 6.25 twice a
    day. Now I have been back riding the past almost 10 weeks. My resting
    heart rate is 45 again and sometimes sleeping it dips below 40 briefly.

    I ask doc if I still have afib and he said yes he can tell just not
    quite regular beat the EKG showed this the when I first went to him in october. As I said I have zero symptoms and on todays ride my HR max was
    148. Here is the data from Garmin 945 and Power meter. The average HR
    was 113 for the 33 mile ride. HR was 51 that is an important number. For
    me though this was close to normal ride but I did finally hit 300 watts
    on the power meter. That has been my biggest since the crash. The
    highest I ever hit on it since I got it about 16 months ago has been
    around 480.

    Distance
    33.09 mi
    Distance
    Nutrition & Hydration
    168
    Resting Calories
    870
    Active Calories
    1,038
    Total Calories Burned
    --
    Calories Consumed
    -1,038
    Calories Net
    774 ml
    Est. Sweat Loss
    -- ml
    Fluid Consumed
    -774 ml
    Fluid Net
    Respiration Rate
    30 brpm
    Avg Respiration Rate
    16 brpm
    Min Respiration Rate
    39 brpm
    Max Respiration Rate
    Training Effect
    Base (Low Aerobic)
    Primary Benefit
    3.4 Impacting
    Aerobic
    0.8 No Benefit
    Anaerobic
    133
    Exercise Load
    Heart Rate

    bpm
    % of Max
    Zones
    113 bpm
    Avg HR
    148 bpm
    Max HR
    51 bpm
    Recovery HR
    Timing
    2:03:37
    Time
    2:03:35
    Moving Time
    2:03:37
    Elapsed Time
    Power
    Watts
    W/kg
    Zones
    117 W
    Avg Power
    300 W
    Max Power
    129 W
    Max Avg Power (20 min)
    124 W
    Normalized Power-< (NP-<)
    0.722
    Intensity Factor-< (IF-<)
    107.0
    Training Stress Score-<
    172 W
    FTP Setting
    871 kJ
    Work
    Pace/Speed

    Pace
    Speed
    16.1 mph
    Avg Speed
    16.1 mph
    Avg Moving Speed
    22.1 mph
    Max Speed
    Bike Cadence
    81 rpm
    Avg Bike Cadence
    106 rpm
    Max Bike Cadence
    Strokes
    9,997
    Total Strokes
    Temperature
    68.4 -#F
    Avg Temp
    66.2 -#F
    Min Temp
    80.6 -#F
    Max Temp
    Intensity Minutes
    38 min
    Moderate
    84 minx2
    Vigorous
    206 min
    Total
    --
    Deacon Mark
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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@cyclintom@yahoo.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Thu Jan 8 19:02:24 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    On Thu Jan 8 09:51:15 2026 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
    On Wed, 07 Jan 2026 22:14:33 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    On my ride yesterday, my heart rate monitor got a glich in it. It reaqd my averate heart rate correctly but for Max Hearr Rate is read 243 bpm which would kill most people in 2 seconds. Since I'm alive, obviously it was an incorrect readiung. But I wonder how that could have happened?

    243 bpm sounds like AFiB (Atrial fibrillation): <https://www.ama-assn.org/public-health/chronic-diseases/what-doctors-wish-patients-knew-about-atrial-fibrillation>
    "Traditionally, we?ve always associated the left top chamber of the
    heart as being the primary driver of atrial fibrillation, where the electrical signals get confused and chaotic. This causes the upper
    chambers of the heart to beat at an astonishing rate of 300 to 400
    beats per minute."

    Every Friday, I walk or hike in one of the local parks, typically with
    two friends. Both have AFiB. Both have Apple Watches to monitor
    their heart rate and ECG (electrocardiogram). <https://support.apple.com/en-us/120278>
    Because of the chaotic nature of their heartbeats, it is difficult to
    tell that the heart is racing a high speed, especially while walking.
    When the watch indicates >120 bpm, we stop until the heart slows down
    to something approaching normal, which typically takes about five
    minutes.

    Tom, I would normally offer some free advice. However, you usually
    reply with insults and ignore my advice. Therefore, you can work out
    a solution by yourself.

    Irrelevant drivel: I survived a PSMA-PET (prostate-specific membrane
    antigen - positron emission tomography) scan on Tues: <https://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/psma-pet-scan/about/pac-20582225>
    Nothing found. Anyway, it was fun playing with my 1950's geiger
    counter and watching the clicks go off scale. The fluorine-18 half
    life is about 110 minutes, so the radiation was gone by this morning.
    And of course no one would ever be able to tell if they were having atrial fibrulations.
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  • From Mark J cleary@mcleary08@comcast.net to rec.bicycles.tech on Thu Jan 8 13:37:54 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    On 1/8/2026 1:02 PM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Thu Jan 8 09:51:15 2026 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
    On Wed, 07 Jan 2026 22:14:33 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    On my ride yesterday, my heart rate monitor got a glich in it. It reaqd my averate heart rate correctly but for Max Hearr Rate is read 243 bpm which would kill most people in 2 seconds. Since I'm alive, obviously it was an incorrect readiung. But I wonder how that could have happened?

    243 bpm sounds like AFiB (Atrial fibrillation):
    <https://www.ama-assn.org/public-health/chronic-diseases/what-doctors-wish-patients-knew-about-atrial-fibrillation>
    "Traditionally, we?ve always associated the left top chamber of the
    heart as being the primary driver of atrial fibrillation, where the
    electrical signals get confused and chaotic. This causes the upper
    chambers of the heart to beat at an astonishing rate of 300 to 400
    beats per minute."

    Every Friday, I walk or hike in one of the local parks, typically with
    two friends. Both have AFiB. Both have Apple Watches to monitor
    their heart rate and ECG (electrocardiogram).
    <https://support.apple.com/en-us/120278>
    Because of the chaotic nature of their heartbeats, it is difficult to
    tell that the heart is racing a high speed, especially while walking.
    When the watch indicates >120 bpm, we stop until the heart slows down
    to something approaching normal, which typically takes about five
    minutes.

    Tom, I would normally offer some free advice. However, you usually
    reply with insults and ignore my advice. Therefore, you can work out
    a solution by yourself.

    Irrelevant drivel: I survived a PSMA-PET (prostate-specific membrane
    antigen - positron emission tomography) scan on Tues:
    <https://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/psma-pet-scan/about/pac-20582225>
    Nothing found. Anyway, it was fun playing with my 1950's geiger
    counter and watching the clicks go off scale. The fluorine-18 half
    life is about 110 minutes, so the radiation was gone by this morning.




    And of course no one would ever be able to tell if they were having atrial fibrulations.
    Not true at all most people who have it are aware of it either sometimes
    or even all the time.
    --
    Deacon Mark
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  • From Jeff Liebermann@jeffl@cruzio.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Thu Jan 8 12:29:50 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    On Thu, 8 Jan 2026 12:20:04 -0600, Mark J cleary
    <mcleary08@comcast.net> wrote:

    On 1/8/2026 11:51 AM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
    On Wed, 07 Jan 2026 22:14:33 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    On my ride yesterday, my heart rate monitor got a glich in it. It reaqd my averate heart rate correctly but for Max Hearr Rate is read 243 bpm which would kill most people in 2 seconds. Since I'm alive, obviously it was an incorrect readiung. But I wonder how that could have happened?

    243 bpm sounds like AFiB (Atrial fibrillation):
    <https://www.ama-assn.org/public-health/chronic-diseases/what-doctors-wish-patients-knew-about-atrial-fibrillation>
    "Traditionally, weAve always associated the left top chamber of the
    heart as being the primary driver of atrial fibrillation, where the
    electrical signals get confused and chaotic. This causes the upper
    chambers of the heart to beat at an astonishing rate of 300 to 400
    beats per minute."

    Every Friday, I walk or hike in one of the local parks, typically with
    two friends. Both have AFiB. Both have Apple Watches to monitor
    their heart rate and ECG (electrocardiogram).
    <https://support.apple.com/en-us/120278>
    Because of the chaotic nature of their heartbeats, it is difficult to
    tell that the heart is racing a high speed, especially while walking.
    When the watch indicates >120 bpm, we stop until the heart slows down
    to something approaching normal, which typically takes about five
    minutes.

    Tom, I would normally offer some free advice. However, you usually
    reply with insults and ignore my advice. Therefore, you can work out
    a solution by yourself.

    Irrelevant drivel: I survived a PSMA-PET (prostate-specific membrane
    antigen - positron emission tomography) scan on Tues:
    <https://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/psma-pet-scan/about/pac-20582225>
    Nothing found. Anyway, it was fun playing with my 1950's geiger
    counter and watching the clicks go off scale. The fluorine-18 half
    life is about 110 minutes, so the radiation was gone by this morning.


    I have AFIB I guess all the time.

    "Could You Have AFib and Not Know It?" <https://www.hackensackmeridianhealth.org/en/healthu/2024/05/23/could-you-have-afib-and-not-know-it>
    "You could have atrial fibrillation (AFib) and not realize it."
    Notice the list of various types of AFIB and symptoms.

    My crash might have been the issue but
    I could have had it before then easily.

    I have zero symptoms at all. I
    don't have the traditional high heart rate. Mine after the crash was
    around 60-90. That is high for me given my resting heart rate is about
    45. I was not riding so my resting HR climbed a bit.

    <https://www.stopafib.org/afib-news-events/news/over-two-million-americans-with-undiagnosed-atrial-fibrillation-may-be-walking-time-bombs/>
    "about one-third (over two million people in the U.S.) may be walking
    time bombs - they donAt feel any symptoms at all, but are at risk for
    an afib-related stroke"

    They did put me on Carvedilol and beta blocker 25mg I took it 12.5 twice
    a day. Then after 2 months the cardiologist lowered it to 6.25 twice a
    day. Now I have been back riding the past almost 10 weeks. My resting
    heart rate is 45 again and sometimes sleeping it dips below 40 briefly.

    "Bradyarrhythmia" <https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/23349-bradyarrhythmia>
    "A bradyarrhythmia is a heart rate thatAs slower than typical because
    of an irregular heart rhythm. People with bradyarrhythmia have resting
    heart rates below 60 beats per minute."

    I ask doc if I still have afib and he said yes he can tell just not
    quite regular beat the EKG showed this the when I first went to him in >october. As I said I have zero symptoms

    One of the two friends that I routinely go on walks or hikes with said
    that he discovered he had AFIB after a routine exam for a very
    different problem. My other friend on the walks doesn't like to talk
    about medical issues while walking, so I know very little about how it
    works for her.

    and on todays ride my HR max was
    148. Here is the data from Garmin 945 and Power meter. The average HR
    was 113 for the 33 mile ride. HR was 51 that is an important number. For
    me though this was close to normal ride but I did finally hit 300 watts
    on the power meter. That has been my biggest since the crash. The
    highest I ever hit on it since I got it about 16 months ago has been
    around 480.

    I need to stop here. Interpreting the Garmin 945 and power meter data
    will well beyond my competence level. I am not a performance driven
    athlete and therefore have no experience with the various parameters
    you listed. I could probably find using a Google search or some AI,
    but with my lack of competence and experience, the chances of you
    getting bad advice is too risky. Sorry.

    Perhaps an online forum on AFIB might be useful. <https://www.afibbers.org/forum/>
    --
    Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
    PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
    Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272 AE6KS 831-336-2558

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  • From Catrike Ryder@Soloman@old.bikers.org to rec.bicycles.tech on Thu Jan 8 15:34:06 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    On Thu, 08 Jan 2026 09:51:15 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
    wrote:

    On Wed, 07 Jan 2026 22:14:33 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    On my ride yesterday, my heart rate monitor got a glich in it. It reaqd my averate heart rate correctly but for Max Hearr Rate is read 243 bpm which would kill most people in 2 seconds. Since I'm alive, obviously it was an incorrect readiung. But I wonder how that could have happened?

    243 bpm sounds like AFiB (Atrial fibrillation): ><https://www.ama-assn.org/public-health/chronic-diseases/what-doctors-wish-patients-knew-about-atrial-fibrillation>
    "Traditionally, weAve always associated the left top chamber of the
    heart as being the primary driver of atrial fibrillation, where the >electrical signals get confused and chaotic. This causes the upper
    chambers of the heart to beat at an astonishing rate of 300 to 400
    beats per minute."

    Every Friday, I walk or hike in one of the local parks, typically with
    two friends. Both have AFiB. Both have Apple Watches to monitor
    their heart rate and ECG (electrocardiogram). ><https://support.apple.com/en-us/120278>
    Because of the chaotic nature of their heartbeats, it is difficult to
    tell that the heart is racing a high speed, especially while walking.
    When the watch indicates >120 bpm, we stop until the heart slows down
    to something approaching normal, which typically takes about five
    minutes.

    Tom, I would normally offer some free advice. However, you usually
    reply with insults and ignore my advice. Therefore, you can work out
    a solution by yourself.

    Irrelevant drivel: I survived a PSMA-PET (prostate-specific membrane
    antigen - positron emission tomography) scan on Tues: ><https://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/psma-pet-scan/about/pac-20582225> >Nothing found. Anyway, it was fun playing with my 1950's geiger
    counter and watching the clicks go off scale. The fluorine-18 half
    life is about 110 minutes, so the radiation was gone by this morning.


    It's been a long month for me after I promised my RN Daughter I
    wouldn't ride gain until I saw a cardiologist. This morning my new
    cardiologist cleared me to ride as much as I wanted. She said my 40/50
    mile bike rides without any problems served as a stress test, but she
    scheduled a coronary CT scan and an echocardiogram.

    Of note: I had been taking a medication for many years to help me with
    my trouble with sleeping and the last several years it had not been
    working, so I dropped it a week ago. Immediately, my blood pressure
    readings went from the usual 125/60 to 135/70, so apparently that
    medication was keeping my BP down. So now, I have blood pressure
    medicine like all the rest of people my age.

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman
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  • From Roger Merriman@roger@sarlet.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Thu Jan 8 21:21:08 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:
    On Thu Jan 8 13:15:28 2026 Roger Merriman wrote:
    cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:
    On GCN they had a question from a viewer about a power meter reading much >>> lower than the viewer thought he was making.

    Now I know that I am onoly making perhaps 100 watts, but I am continually >>> passing groups or individuaols surprisingly fast. Equally Joe play racer >>> on a Trek or Specialized S-works will come flying by me so fast it is
    quite easy to tell that my power is in the gutter. So people like Joe
    sport rider is likely to he led to believe that he can estimate his power >>> output by speed and is then upset that a power meter doesn't return his estimation.

    Most folks will not be riding to bury themselves, and as such will pass
    folks, if your remotely pushing on, on the commute where I?m definitely
    not, since I am a club rider and so on, I pass folks on a bike, even the
    illegal e bikes! Strava will give you an estimated weighted power, which
    claims 60/70ish for yourself and myself (for the commute) which is probably >> about right.

    Fit or at least competitive folks doing the summer/winter loop in the club >> seem to average 180/220 ish with power meters, the strava estimates are
    within the same range for the folks who don?t bother with meters.

    Can get pedal power meters which are dramatically cheaper if you want to
    try them out. I believe like lots of metrics it?s useful for comparison
    with your self less so to others.


    On my ride yesterday, my heart rate monitor got a glich in it. It reaqd
    my averate heart rate correctly but for Max Hearr Rate is read 243 bpm
    which would kill most people in 2 seconds. Since I'm alive, obviously it >>> was an incorrect readiung. But I wonder how that could have happened?

    Heart rate monitors seem to be slightly prone to such stuff plus you seem
    to struggle with technology so the options are fairly broad!




    I was only interested somewhat in order to watch the degradation of my fitness as I ride. But I'm not willing to pay the sort of money it costs
    to watch what will only be a reducing number. In general, I make no
    effort to pass people but I will try to drop them if I pass them to keep
    out of their way if I do pass people and their general response is to try
    and keep up. I don't particularly like people I don't know drafting me because I don't know their skill level. And I'd just as soon not be crashed by someone.


    Pedal based ones arenrCOt that expensive and would absolutely have a 2nd hand value, aka one could use it and sell it if you didnrCOt like it.

    Roger Merriman

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  • From Mark J cleary@mcleary08@comcast.net to rec.bicycles.tech on Thu Jan 8 15:43:49 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    On 1/8/2026 2:34 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
    On Thu, 08 Jan 2026 09:51:15 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
    wrote:

    On Wed, 07 Jan 2026 22:14:33 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    On my ride yesterday, my heart rate monitor got a glich in it. It reaqd my averate heart rate correctly but for Max Hearr Rate is read 243 bpm which would kill most people in 2 seconds. Since I'm alive, obviously it was an incorrect readiung. But I wonder how that could have happened?

    243 bpm sounds like AFiB (Atrial fibrillation):
    <https://www.ama-assn.org/public-health/chronic-diseases/what-doctors-wish-patients-knew-about-atrial-fibrillation>
    "Traditionally, werCOve always associated the left top chamber of the
    heart as being the primary driver of atrial fibrillation, where the
    electrical signals get confused and chaotic. This causes the upper
    chambers of the heart to beat at an astonishing rate of 300 to 400
    beats per minute."

    Every Friday, I walk or hike in one of the local parks, typically with
    two friends. Both have AFiB. Both have Apple Watches to monitor
    their heart rate and ECG (electrocardiogram).
    <https://support.apple.com/en-us/120278>
    Because of the chaotic nature of their heartbeats, it is difficult to
    tell that the heart is racing a high speed, especially while walking.
    When the watch indicates >120 bpm, we stop until the heart slows down
    to something approaching normal, which typically takes about five
    minutes.

    Tom, I would normally offer some free advice. However, you usually
    reply with insults and ignore my advice. Therefore, you can work out
    a solution by yourself.

    Irrelevant drivel: I survived a PSMA-PET (prostate-specific membrane
    antigen - positron emission tomography) scan on Tues:
    <https://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/psma-pet-scan/about/pac-20582225>
    Nothing found. Anyway, it was fun playing with my 1950's geiger
    counter and watching the clicks go off scale. The fluorine-18 half
    life is about 110 minutes, so the radiation was gone by this morning.


    It's been a long month for me after I promised my RN Daughter I
    wouldn't ride gain until I saw a cardiologist. This morning my new cardiologist cleared me to ride as much as I wanted. She said my 40/50
    mile bike rides without any problems served as a stress test, but she scheduled a coronary CT scan and an echocardiogram.

    Of note: I had been taking a medication for many years to help me with
    my trouble with sleeping and the last several years it had not been
    working, so I dropped it a week ago. Immediately, my blood pressure
    readings went from the usual 125/60 to 135/70, so apparently that
    medication was keeping my BP down. So now, I have blood pressure
    medicine like all the rest of people my age.

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman
    That blood pressure is not all the bad. Only systolic higher and
    depending on age maybe of real normal.
    --
    Deacon Mark
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  • From Roger Merriman@roger@sarlet.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Fri Jan 9 00:02:27 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    Mark J cleary <mcleary08@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 1/8/2026 2:34 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
    On Thu, 08 Jan 2026 09:51:15 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
    wrote:

    On Wed, 07 Jan 2026 22:14:33 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    On my ride yesterday, my heart rate monitor got a glich in it. It
    reaqd my averate heart rate correctly but for Max Hearr Rate is read
    243 bpm which would kill most people in 2 seconds. Since I'm alive,
    obviously it was an incorrect readiung. But I wonder how that could have happened?

    243 bpm sounds like AFiB (Atrial fibrillation):
    <https://www.ama-assn.org/public-health/chronic-diseases/what-doctors-wish-patients-knew-about-atrial-fibrillation>
    "Traditionally, werCOve always associated the left top chamber of the
    heart as being the primary driver of atrial fibrillation, where the
    electrical signals get confused and chaotic. This causes the upper
    chambers of the heart to beat at an astonishing rate of 300 to 400
    beats per minute."

    Every Friday, I walk or hike in one of the local parks, typically with
    two friends. Both have AFiB. Both have Apple Watches to monitor
    their heart rate and ECG (electrocardiogram).
    <https://support.apple.com/en-us/120278>
    Because of the chaotic nature of their heartbeats, it is difficult to
    tell that the heart is racing a high speed, especially while walking.
    When the watch indicates >120 bpm, we stop until the heart slows down
    to something approaching normal, which typically takes about five
    minutes.

    Tom, I would normally offer some free advice. However, you usually
    reply with insults and ignore my advice. Therefore, you can work out
    a solution by yourself.

    Irrelevant drivel: I survived a PSMA-PET (prostate-specific membrane
    antigen - positron emission tomography) scan on Tues:
    <https://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/psma-pet-scan/about/pac-20582225>
    Nothing found. Anyway, it was fun playing with my 1950's geiger
    counter and watching the clicks go off scale. The fluorine-18 half
    life is about 110 minutes, so the radiation was gone by this morning.


    It's been a long month for me after I promised my RN Daughter I
    wouldn't ride gain until I saw a cardiologist. This morning my new
    cardiologist cleared me to ride as much as I wanted. She said my 40/50
    mile bike rides without any problems served as a stress test, but she
    scheduled a coronary CT scan and an echocardiogram.

    Of note: I had been taking a medication for many years to help me with
    my trouble with sleeping and the last several years it had not been
    working, so I dropped it a week ago. Immediately, my blood pressure
    readings went from the usual 125/60 to 135/70, so apparently that
    medication was keeping my BP down. So now, I have blood pressure
    medicine like all the rest of people my age.

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman
    That blood pressure is not all the bad. Only systolic higher and
    depending on age maybe of real normal.


    No though I believe nudging it into the normal range 120/80 is supposed to
    be the upper end, would be generally better for the heart.

    Good to hear the trike will be back out there, IrCOm guessing no cold snaps
    or even mudrCa

    Roger Merriman

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  • From Catrike Ryder@Soloman@old.bikers.org to rec.bicycles.tech on Thu Jan 8 19:43:23 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    On 9 Jan 2026 00:02:27 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:

    Mark J cleary <mcleary08@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 1/8/2026 2:34 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
    On Thu, 08 Jan 2026 09:51:15 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
    wrote:

    On Wed, 07 Jan 2026 22:14:33 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    On my ride yesterday, my heart rate monitor got a glich in it. It
    reaqd my averate heart rate correctly but for Max Hearr Rate is read >>>>> 243 bpm which would kill most people in 2 seconds. Since I'm alive,
    obviously it was an incorrect readiung. But I wonder how that could have happened?

    243 bpm sounds like AFiB (Atrial fibrillation):
    <https://www.ama-assn.org/public-health/chronic-diseases/what-doctors-wish-patients-knew-about-atrial-fibrillation>
    "Traditionally, weAve always associated the left top chamber of the
    heart as being the primary driver of atrial fibrillation, where the
    electrical signals get confused and chaotic. This causes the upper
    chambers of the heart to beat at an astonishing rate of 300 to 400
    beats per minute."

    Every Friday, I walk or hike in one of the local parks, typically with >>>> two friends. Both have AFiB. Both have Apple Watches to monitor
    their heart rate and ECG (electrocardiogram).
    <https://support.apple.com/en-us/120278>
    Because of the chaotic nature of their heartbeats, it is difficult to
    tell that the heart is racing a high speed, especially while walking.
    When the watch indicates >120 bpm, we stop until the heart slows down
    to something approaching normal, which typically takes about five
    minutes.

    Tom, I would normally offer some free advice. However, you usually
    reply with insults and ignore my advice. Therefore, you can work out
    a solution by yourself.

    Irrelevant drivel: I survived a PSMA-PET (prostate-specific membrane
    antigen - positron emission tomography) scan on Tues:
    <https://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/psma-pet-scan/about/pac-20582225>
    Nothing found. Anyway, it was fun playing with my 1950's geiger
    counter and watching the clicks go off scale. The fluorine-18 half
    life is about 110 minutes, so the radiation was gone by this morning.


    It's been a long month for me after I promised my RN Daughter I
    wouldn't ride gain until I saw a cardiologist. This morning my new
    cardiologist cleared me to ride as much as I wanted. She said my 40/50
    mile bike rides without any problems served as a stress test, but she
    scheduled a coronary CT scan and an echocardiogram.

    Of note: I had been taking a medication for many years to help me with
    my trouble with sleeping and the last several years it had not been
    working, so I dropped it a week ago. Immediately, my blood pressure
    readings went from the usual 125/60 to 135/70, so apparently that
    medication was keeping my BP down. So now, I have blood pressure
    medicine like all the rest of people my age.

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman
    That blood pressure is not all the bad. Only systolic higher and
    depending on age maybe of real normal.


    No though I believe nudging it into the normal range 120/80 is supposed to
    be the upper end, would be generally better for the heart.

    Good to hear the trike will be back out there, IAm guessing no cold snaps
    or even muda

    Roger Merriman

    I'll be riding Saturday. It's supposed to be a high of 80.

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman
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  • From zen cycle@funkmasterxx@hotmail.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Fri Jan 9 04:16:08 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:
    On GCN they had a question from a viewer about a power meter reading much
    lower than the viewer thought he was making.

    Now I know that I am onoly making perhaps 100 watts, but I am continually
    passing groups or individuaols surprisingly fast. Equally Joe play racer
    on a Trek or Specialized S-works will come flying by me so fast it is
    quite easy to tell that my power is in the gutter. So people like Joe
    sport rider is likely to he led to believe that he can estimate his power
    output by speed and is then upset that a power meter doesn't return his estimation.

    You have quite the imagination. After 40 years of racing and large group rides, I can categorically state I've never run across your contrivance
    of Joe Sport Rider. Such assumptions are generally the position assumed
    by the most ignorant and arrogant of riders, not your average joe.

    On my ride yesterday, my heart rate monitor got a glich in it. It reaqd
    my averate heart rate correctly but for Max Hearr Rate is read 243 bpm
    which would kill most people in 2 seconds. Since I'm alive, obviously it
    was an incorrect readiung. But I wonder how that could have happened?

    Wait, I thought you were this genius electronics engineer who help
    design the very first heart lung machine, but you can't even speculate
    as to what might cause a glitch in your HRM data?
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  • From zen cycle@funkmasterxx@hotmail.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Fri Jan 9 05:05:52 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    On 1/8/2026 8:15 AM, Roger Merriman wrote:
    cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:
    On GCN they had a question from a viewer about a power meter reading much
    lower than the viewer thought he was making.

    Now I know that I am onoly making perhaps 100 watts, but I am continually
    passing groups or individuaols surprisingly fast. Equally Joe play racer
    on a Trek or Specialized S-works will come flying by me so fast it is
    quite easy to tell that my power is in the gutter. So people like Joe
    sport rider is likely to he led to believe that he can estimate his power
    output by speed and is then upset that a power meter doesn't return his estimation.

    Most folks will not be riding to bury themselves, and as such will pass folks, if your remotely pushing on, on the commute where IrCOm definitely not, since I am a club rider and so on, I pass folks on a bike, even the illegal e bikes! Strava will give you an estimated weighted power, which claims 60/70ish for yourself and myself (for the commute) which is probably about right.

    Fit or at least competitive folks doing the summer/winter loop in the club seem to average 180/220 ish with power meters, the strava estimates are within the same range for the folks who donrCOt bother with meters.

    Can get pedal power meters which are dramatically cheaper if you want to
    try them out. I believe like lots of metrics itrCOs useful for comparison with your self less so to others.

    The easiest thing for tommy to do would be to input the data to a power calculator with an estimation of wind speed and grade. Nah...too easy.
    He'd rather bitch.



    On my ride yesterday, my heart rate monitor got a glich in it. It reaqd
    my averate heart rate correctly but for Max Hearr Rate is read 243 bpm
    which would kill most people in 2 seconds. Since I'm alive, obviously it
    was an incorrect readiung. But I wonder how that could have happened?

    Heart rate monitors seem to be slightly prone to such stuff plus you seem
    to struggle with technology so the options are fairly broad!

    These types of spikes aren't uncommon. If there is in fact no underlying medical issue, things such as intermittent contact and Electromagnetic Interference (EMI) can easily cause these issues.

    Since tommy isn't working very hard (not sweating), intermittent contact
    is probably the most likely since I know he's using a Garmin HRM Pro+ -
    these are remarkably immune to most types of EMI*. The intermittent
    contact can show for example two beats when there should have been one -
    this wont necessarily translate into an exact 2x of the heart rate, it
    would depend on home many times it happened within the sampling periods
    of the HRM and head unit. Intermittent contact with a chest strap HRM is
    a known problem when there is little moisture between the skin and strap contacts. It's clearly detailed in the HRM Pro+ user manual.

    (https://www8.garmin.com/manuals/webhelp/GUID-57B75051-8E96-44B8-A89E-470B3E3BCD32/EN-US/HRM-Pro_Plus_QSM_EN-US.pdf)

    EMI shouldn't be discounted, but it isn't likely since since modern
    technology has evolved to show rather impressive immunity to external
    EMI. The Garmin HRM Pro+ has to go though EU Radio Equipment Directive
    (aka RED) compliance testing which includes standards of operation under radiated EMI (ETSI EN 301 489-17, since this is a device which operates
    under both Bluetooth and ANT+ protocols, see compliance statement here https://static.garmin.com/pumac/HRM-Pro_DoC-EU.pdf)

    I also use an HRM Pro+, but one thing I just learned by RTFM is that
    it's apparently susceptible enough to Electrostatic Discharge (ESD) that
    they felt the need to mention it - suggesting a cotton wicking layer
    instead of synthetics since cotton doesn't generate as much ESD as plastic-based clothing. However, this also becomes a non-issue when
    salt-laden moisture (sweat) coats the entire set-up.

    *as tested by various FCC (Federal Communication Commission - US), ETSI (European Telecommunications Standards Institute - European Union), and
    ISED RSS (Innovation, Science and Economic Development Radio Standards Specifications - Canada) requirements.


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  • From John B.@jbslocomb@fictitious.site to rec.bicycles.tech on Fri Jan 9 02:07:10 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    On Fri, 9 Jan 2026 04:16:08 -0500, zen cycle
    <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:

    cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:
    On GCN they had a question from a viewer about a power meter reading much >>> lower than the viewer thought he was making.

    Now I know that I am onoly making perhaps 100 watts, but I am continually >>> passing groups or individuaols surprisingly fast. Equally Joe play racer >>> on a Trek or Specialized S-works will come flying by me so fast it is
    quite easy to tell that my power is in the gutter. So people like Joe
    sport rider is likely to he led to believe that he can estimate his power >>> output by speed and is then upset that a power meter doesn't return his estimation.

    You have quite the imagination. After 40 years of racing and large group >rides, I can categorically state I've never run across your contrivance
    of Joe Sport Rider. Such assumptions are generally the position assumed
    by the most ignorant and arrogant of riders, not your average joe.

    On my ride yesterday, my heart rate monitor got a glich in it. It reaqd
    my averate heart rate correctly but for Max Hearr Rate is read 243 bpm
    which would kill most people in 2 seconds. Since I'm alive, obviously it >>> was an incorrect readiung. But I wonder how that could have happened?

    Wait, I thought you were this genius electronics engineer who help
    design the very first heart lung machine, but you can't even speculate
    as to what might cause a glitch in your HRM data?


    Re all this talk about fancy (and likely expensive) stuff for bikes I
    have to admit that the only instrumentation I ever used was a mileage
    meter (it counted wheel rotations) and a watch. which gave me the
    distance I had ridden and the time it took me to do it. What else is
    reverent?
    (Lets see... I had extra 100 ft force on the pedal but it took me an
    extra hour for the ride) ( ; - 0)
    --
    cheers,

    John B.

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  • From Roger Merriman@roger@sarlet.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Fri Jan 9 11:05:48 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    zen cycle <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On 1/8/2026 8:15 AM, Roger Merriman wrote:
    cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:
    On GCN they had a question from a viewer about a power meter reading much >>> lower than the viewer thought he was making.

    Now I know that I am onoly making perhaps 100 watts, but I am continually >>> passing groups or individuaols surprisingly fast. Equally Joe play racer >>> on a Trek or Specialized S-works will come flying by me so fast it is
    quite easy to tell that my power is in the gutter. So people like Joe
    sport rider is likely to he led to believe that he can estimate his power >>> output by speed and is then upset that a power meter doesn't return his estimation.

    Most folks will not be riding to bury themselves, and as such will pass
    folks, if your remotely pushing on, on the commute where IrCOm definitely
    not, since I am a club rider and so on, I pass folks on a bike, even the
    illegal e bikes! Strava will give you an estimated weighted power, which
    claims 60/70ish for yourself and myself (for the commute) which is probably >> about right.

    Fit or at least competitive folks doing the summer/winter loop in the club >> seem to average 180/220 ish with power meters, the strava estimates are
    within the same range for the folks who donrCOt bother with meters.

    Can get pedal power meters which are dramatically cheaper if you want to
    try them out. I believe like lots of metrics itrCOs useful for comparison
    with your self less so to others.

    The easiest thing for tommy to do would be to input the data to a power calculator with an estimation of wind speed and grade. Nah...too easy.
    He'd rather bitch.

    He could just look at his Strava account which estimates power though I
    donrCOt think it accounts for wind, just weight and grade and type of bike, seems to be broadly in the same ball park as my riding companions who do
    have a power meters, bar the MTB derived commute bike which it suggests 150
    ish weighted averages which clearly isnrCOt right.

    the roadie though I do work harder than the MTB derived commuter, IrCOm not dripping in sweat in fact IrCOm dry enough to not to need to change my top,
    and Strava suggests 60/70 ish weighted averages. Which to be honest IrCOd not looked at before this post as I get fit due to riding as a byproduct.



    On my ride yesterday, my heart rate monitor got a glich in it. It reaqd
    my averate heart rate correctly but for Max Hearr Rate is read 243 bpm
    which would kill most people in 2 seconds. Since I'm alive, obviously it >>> was an incorrect readiung. But I wonder how that could have happened?

    Heart rate monitors seem to be slightly prone to such stuff plus you seem
    to struggle with technology so the options are fairly broad!

    These types of spikes aren't uncommon. If there is in fact no underlying medical issue, things such as intermittent contact and Electromagnetic Interference (EMI) can easily cause these issues.

    Since tommy isn't working very hard (not sweating), intermittent contact
    is probably the most likely since I know he's using a Garmin HRM Pro+ - these are remarkably immune to most types of EMI*. The intermittent
    contact can show for example two beats when there should have been one - this wont necessarily translate into an exact 2x of the heart rate, it
    would depend on home many times it happened within the sampling periods
    of the HRM and head unit. Intermittent contact with a chest strap HRM is
    a known problem when there is little moisture between the skin and strap contacts. It's clearly detailed in the HRM Pro+ user manual.

    (https://www8.garmin.com/manuals/webhelp/GUID-57B75051-8E96-44B8-A89E-470B3E3BCD32/EN-US/HRM-Pro_Plus_QSM_EN-US.pdf)

    EMI shouldn't be discounted, but it isn't likely since since modern technology has evolved to show rather impressive immunity to external
    EMI. The Garmin HRM Pro+ has to go though EU Radio Equipment Directive
    (aka RED) compliance testing which includes standards of operation under radiated EMI (ETSI EN 301 489-17, since this is a device which operates under both Bluetooth and ANT+ protocols, see compliance statement here https://static.garmin.com/pumac/HRM-Pro_DoC-EU.pdf)

    I also use an HRM Pro+, but one thing I just learned by RTFM is that
    it's apparently susceptible enough to Electrostatic Discharge (ESD) that they felt the need to mention it - suggesting a cotton wicking layer
    instead of synthetics since cotton doesn't generate as much ESD as plastic-based clothing. However, this also becomes a non-issue when salt-laden moisture (sweat) coats the entire set-up.

    *as tested by various FCC (Federal Communication Commission - US), ETSI (European Telecommunications Standards Institute - European Union), and
    ISED RSS (Innovation, Science and Economic Development Radio Standards Specifications - Canada) requirements.



    Roger Merriman


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  • From Roger Merriman@roger@sarlet.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Fri Jan 9 12:03:05 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
    On 9 Jan 2026 00:02:27 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:

    Mark J cleary <mcleary08@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 1/8/2026 2:34 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
    On Thu, 08 Jan 2026 09:51:15 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> >>>> wrote:

    On Wed, 07 Jan 2026 22:14:33 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    On my ride yesterday, my heart rate monitor got a glich in it. It
    reaqd my averate heart rate correctly but for Max Hearr Rate is read >>>>>> 243 bpm which would kill most people in 2 seconds. Since I'm alive, >>>>>> obviously it was an incorrect readiung. But I wonder how that could have happened?

    243 bpm sounds like AFiB (Atrial fibrillation):
    <https://www.ama-assn.org/public-health/chronic-diseases/what-doctors-wish-patients-knew-about-atrial-fibrillation>
    "Traditionally, we-Ave always associated the left top chamber of the >>>>> heart as being the primary driver of atrial fibrillation, where the
    electrical signals get confused and chaotic. This causes the upper
    chambers of the heart to beat at an astonishing rate of 300 to 400
    beats per minute."

    Every Friday, I walk or hike in one of the local parks, typically with >>>>> two friends. Both have AFiB. Both have Apple Watches to monitor
    their heart rate and ECG (electrocardiogram).
    <https://support.apple.com/en-us/120278>
    Because of the chaotic nature of their heartbeats, it is difficult to >>>>> tell that the heart is racing a high speed, especially while walking. >>>>> When the watch indicates >120 bpm, we stop until the heart slows down >>>>> to something approaching normal, which typically takes about five
    minutes.

    Tom, I would normally offer some free advice. However, you usually
    reply with insults and ignore my advice. Therefore, you can work out >>>>> a solution by yourself.

    Irrelevant drivel: I survived a PSMA-PET (prostate-specific membrane >>>>> antigen - positron emission tomography) scan on Tues:
    <https://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/psma-pet-scan/about/pac-20582225>
    Nothing found. Anyway, it was fun playing with my 1950's geiger
    counter and watching the clicks go off scale. The fluorine-18 half
    life is about 110 minutes, so the radiation was gone by this morning. >>>>>

    It's been a long month for me after I promised my RN Daughter I
    wouldn't ride gain until I saw a cardiologist. This morning my new
    cardiologist cleared me to ride as much as I wanted. She said my 40/50 >>>> mile bike rides without any problems served as a stress test, but she
    scheduled a coronary CT scan and an echocardiogram.

    Of note: I had been taking a medication for many years to help me with >>>> my trouble with sleeping and the last several years it had not been
    working, so I dropped it a week ago. Immediately, my blood pressure
    readings went from the usual 125/60 to 135/70, so apparently that
    medication was keeping my BP down. So now, I have blood pressure
    medicine like all the rest of people my age.

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman
    That blood pressure is not all the bad. Only systolic higher and
    depending on age maybe of real normal.


    No though I believe nudging it into the normal range 120/80 is supposed to >> be the upper end, would be generally better for the heart.

    Good to hear the trike will be back out there, I-Am guessing no cold snaps >> or even mud-a

    Roger Merriman

    I'll be riding Saturday. It's supposed to be a high of 80.

    ThatrCOs about as hot as IrCOm comfortable with!

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman

    Roger Merriman


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  • From Roger Merriman@roger@sarlet.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Fri Jan 9 12:12:02 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    John B. <jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
    On Fri, 9 Jan 2026 04:16:08 -0500, zen cycle
    <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:

    cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:
    On GCN they had a question from a viewer about a power meter reading much >>>> lower than the viewer thought he was making.

    Now I know that I am onoly making perhaps 100 watts, but I am continually >>>> passing groups or individuaols surprisingly fast. Equally Joe play racer >>>> on a Trek or Specialized S-works will come flying by me so fast it is
    quite easy to tell that my power is in the gutter. So people like Joe
    sport rider is likely to he led to believe that he can estimate his power >>>> output by speed and is then upset that a power meter doesn't return his estimation.

    You have quite the imagination. After 40 years of racing and large group
    rides, I can categorically state I've never run across your contrivance
    of Joe Sport Rider. Such assumptions are generally the position assumed
    by the most ignorant and arrogant of riders, not your average joe.

    On my ride yesterday, my heart rate monitor got a glich in it. It reaqd >>>> my averate heart rate correctly but for Max Hearr Rate is read 243 bpm >>>> which would kill most people in 2 seconds. Since I'm alive, obviously it >>>> was an incorrect readiung. But I wonder how that could have happened?

    Wait, I thought you were this genius electronics engineer who help
    design the very first heart lung machine, but you can't even speculate
    as to what might cause a glitch in your HRM data?


    Re all this talk about fancy (and likely expensive) stuff for bikes I
    have to admit that the only instrumentation I ever used was a mileage
    meter (it counted wheel rotations) and a watch. which gave me the
    distance I had ridden and the time it took me to do it. What else is reverent?
    (Lets see... I had extra 100 ft force on the pedal but it took me an
    extra hour for the ride) ( ; - 0)
    --
    cheers,

    John B.



    For commuting time of day is useful, though I have it on the GPS unit as looking at your watch isnrCOt particularly easy thing particularly in low
    light situations, itrCOs useful to know IrCOm on time ie will not be late.

    Though the unit is for the Gravel/MTBing I do which is mainly for
    navigation, while I do have maps as in paper maps which I use for plotting
    a route, the unit is much easier way to navigate.

    It does show speed distance and temperatures and elevation which are a
    lesser concern to me, I have chosen those but the navigation is its main purpose donrCOt have a power meter but some of my riding companions do others just have heart rate monitors or like me nothing.

    Roger Merriman

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  • From Jeff Liebermann@jeffl@cruzio.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Fri Jan 9 09:42:20 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    On Thu, 08 Jan 2026 19:02:24 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    On Thu Jan 8 09:51:15 2026 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
    On Wed, 07 Jan 2026 22:14:33 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    On my ride yesterday, my heart rate monitor got a glich in it. It reaqd my averate heart rate correctly but for Max Hearr Rate is read 243 bpm which would kill most people in 2 seconds. Since I'm alive, obviously it was an incorrect readiung. But I wonder how that could have happened?

    243 bpm sounds like AFiB (Atrial fibrillation):
    <https://www.ama-assn.org/public-health/chronic-diseases/what-doctors-wish-patients-knew-about-atrial-fibrillation>
    "Traditionally, we?ve always associated the left top chamber of the
    heart as being the primary driver of atrial fibrillation, where the
    electrical signals get confused and chaotic. This causes the upper
    chambers of the heart to beat at an astonishing rate of 300 to 400
    beats per minute."

    Every Friday, I walk or hike in one of the local parks, typically with
    two friends. Both have AFiB. Both have Apple Watches to monitor
    their heart rate and ECG (electrocardiogram).
    <https://support.apple.com/en-us/120278>
    Because of the chaotic nature of their heartbeats, it is difficult to
    tell that the heart is racing a high speed, especially while walking.
    When the watch indicates >120 bpm, we stop until the heart slows down
    to something approaching normal, which typically takes about five
    minutes.

    Tom, I would normally offer some free advice. However, you usually
    reply with insults and ignore my advice. Therefore, you can work out
    a solution by yourself.

    Irrelevant drivel: I survived a PSMA-PET (prostate-specific membrane
    antigen - positron emission tomography) scan on Tues:
    <https://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/psma-pet-scan/about/pac-20582225>
    Nothing found. Anyway, it was fun playing with my 1950's geiger
    counter and watching the clicks go off scale. The fluorine-18 half
    life is about 110 minutes, so the radiation was gone by this morning.

    And of course no one would ever be able to tell if they were having atrial fibrulations.

    Except for the "no one" part, that's true. I'm told that it's
    difficult to tell. The standard suggestion is go see a doctor and let
    them make the determination.

    "WHAT ARE SOME COMMON SYMPTOMS OF AFib?" <https://www.notimetowait.com/afib-explained?cid=sem_1520441>
    "Only a healthcare professional can tell you if these symptoms are
    AFib, or another potentially serious condition."
    "It is projected that by 2030, approximately 12 million people in the
    U.S. will have AFib"
    --
    Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
    PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
    Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272 AE6KS 831-336-2558

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  • From danny burstein@dannyb@panix.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Fri Jan 9 17:57:02 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    In <p1f2mkh98nlf5m776icg6a87oahd7uufgp@4ax.com> Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> writes:

    [snip]

    And of course no one would ever be able to tell if they were having atrial fibrulations.

    Except for the "no one" part, that's true. I'm told that it's
    difficult to tell. The standard suggestion is go see a doctor and let
    them make the determination.

    Not intending to get into a full scale cardiac intro,
    but "a-fib"'s key symptom (there are PLENTY of others)
    is an irregular pulse rate. Oh, and with different
    (term used loosely) "strength".

    It dramatically increases your risk of a stroke, so
    definitly needs to be evaluated.

    There's a GREAT product out there called the "Kardia",
    which is the size of a wafer. You stick fingers from
    each hand on it, and it BlueTooths a basic displayof
    a "lead II" ekg to your iPad, etc.

    Cost is listed at $100, but frequently discounted to $75 or so.

    Highly recommended, and in my specific case it
    cleared up a medical mystery where... whenver
    I was in the doctor's office every test was clean,
    but I was able to reproduce the issue at home.

    (yes, I have a passing familiarity with medical issues).

    (No connection to the company except as a very
    happy user, except [a])

    [a] my system blocks and flags inapproriate calls
    out to Google, FB, and lots of other spyware. It
    warned me Kardia was trying to reach Google and
    something like ?Mixmaster? when the program was
    nominally "off".

    I've complained to Kardia and also Calif's DOH. Still
    in process.
    --
    _____________________________________________________
    Knowledge may be power, but communications is the key
    dannyb@panix.com
    [to foil spammers, my address has been double rot-13 encoded]
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  • From Catrike Ryder@Soloman@old.bikers.org to rec.bicycles.tech on Fri Jan 9 13:20:55 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    On Fri, 9 Jan 2026 17:57:02 -0000 (UTC), danny burstein
    <dannyb@panix.com> wrote:

    In <p1f2mkh98nlf5m776icg6a87oahd7uufgp@4ax.com> Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> writes:

    [snip]

    And of course no one would ever be able to tell if they were having atrial fibrulations.

    Except for the "no one" part, that's true. I'm told that it's
    difficult to tell. The standard suggestion is go see a doctor and let
    them make the determination.

    Not intending to get into a full scale cardiac intro,
    but "a-fib"'s key symptom (there are PLENTY of others)
    is an irregular pulse rate. Oh, and with different
    (term used loosely) "strength".

    It dramatically increases your risk of a stroke, so
    definitly needs to be evaluated.

    There's a GREAT product out there called the "Kardia",
    which is the size of a wafer. You stick fingers from
    each hand on it, and it BlueTooths a basic displayof
    a "lead II" ekg to your iPad, etc.

    Cost is listed at $100, but frequently discounted to $75 or so.

    Highly recommended, and in my specific case it
    cleared up a medical mystery where... whenver
    I was in the doctor's office every test was clean,
    but I was able to reproduce the issue at home.

    (yes, I have a passing familiarity with medical issues).

    (No connection to the company except as a very
    happy user, except [a])

    [a] my system blocks and flags inapproriate calls
    out to Google, FB, and lots of other spyware. It
    warned me Kardia was trying to reach Google and
    something like ?Mixmaster? when the program was
    nominally "off".

    I've complained to Kardia and also Calif's DOH. Still
    in process.

    Ay my age, 81 YO, nothing beats an evaluation from a qualified
    cardiaologist. Day before yesterday was my first. Now, I have a
    Echocardiagram and an Cardio CT scan scheduled for later this month.
    In the meantime, my no problem bike rides serves as a stress test.

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman
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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@cyclintom@yahoo.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Fri Jan 9 18:36:34 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    On Thu Jan 8 12:20:04 2026 Mark J cleary wrote:
    On 1/8/2026 11:51 AM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
    On Wed, 07 Jan 2026 22:14:33 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    On my ride yesterday, my heart rate monitor got a glich in it. It reaqd my averate heart rate correctly but for Max Hearr Rate is read 243 bpm which would kill most people in 2 seconds. Since I'm alive, obviously it was an incorrect readiung. But I wonder how that could have happened?

    243 bpm sounds like AFiB (Atrial fibrillation): <https://www.ama-assn.org/public-health/chronic-diseases/what-doctors-wish-patients-knew-about-atrial-fibrillation>
    "Traditionally, we?ve always associated the left top chamber of the
    heart as being the primary driver of atrial fibrillation, where the electrical signals get confused and chaotic. This causes the upper
    chambers of the heart to beat at an astonishing rate of 300 to 400
    beats per minute."

    Every Friday, I walk or hike in one of the local parks, typically with
    two friends. Both have AFiB. Both have Apple Watches to monitor
    their heart rate and ECG (electrocardiogram). <https://support.apple.com/en-us/120278>
    Because of the chaotic nature of their heartbeats, it is difficult to
    tell that the heart is racing a high speed, especially while walking.
    When the watch indicates >120 bpm, we stop until the heart slows down
    to something approaching normal, which typically takes about five
    minutes.

    Tom, I would normally offer some free advice. However, you usually
    reply with insults and ignore my advice. Therefore, you can work out
    a solution by yourself.

    Irrelevant drivel: I survived a PSMA-PET (prostate-specific membrane antigen - positron emission tomography) scan on Tues: <https://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/psma-pet-scan/about/pac-20582225>
    Nothing found. Anyway, it was fun playing with my 1950's geiger
    counter and watching the clicks go off scale. The fluorine-18 half
    life is about 110 minutes, so the radiation was gone by this morning.


    I have AFIB I guess all the time. My crash might have been the issue but
    I could have had it before then easily. I have zero symptoms at all. I
    don't have the traditional high heart rate. Mine after the crash was
    around 60-90. That is high for me given my resting heart rate is about
    45. I was not riding so my resting HR climbed a bit.

    They did put me on Carvedilol and beta blocker 25mg I took it 12.5 twice
    a day. Then after 2 months the cardiologist lowered it to 6.25 twice a
    day. Now I have been back riding the past almost 10 weeks. My resting
    heart rate is 45 again and sometimes sleeping it dips below 40 briefly.

    I ask doc if I still have afib and he said yes he can tell just not
    quite regular beat the EKG showed this the when I first went to him in october. As I said I have zero symptoms and on todays ride my HR max was
    148. Here is the data from Garmin 945 and Power meter. The average HR
    was 113 for the 33 mile ride. HR was 51 that is an important number. For
    me though this was close to normal ride but I did finally hit 300 watts
    on the power meter. That has been my biggest since the crash. The
    highest I ever hit on it since I got it about 16 months ago has been
    around 480.

    Distance
    33.09 mi
    Distance
    Nutrition & Hydration
    168
    Resting Calories
    870
    Active Calories
    1,038
    Total Calories Burned
    --
    Calories Consumed
    -1,038
    Calories Net
    774 ml
    Est. Sweat Loss
    -- ml
    Fluid Consumed
    -774 ml
    Fluid Net
    Respiration Rate
    30 brpm
    Avg Respiration Rate
    16 brpm
    Min Respiration Rate
    39 brpm
    Max Respiration Rate
    Training Effect
    Base (Low Aerobic)
    Primary Benefit
    3.4 Impacting
    Aerobic
    0.8 No Benefit
    Anaerobic
    133
    Exercise Load
    Heart Rate

    bpm
    % of Max
    Zones
    113 bpm
    Avg HR
    148 bpm
    Max HR
    51 bpm
    Recovery HR
    Timing
    2:03:37
    Time
    2:03:35
    Moving Time
    2:03:37
    Elapsed Time
    Power
    Watts
    W/kg
    Zones
    117 W
    Avg Power
    300 W
    Max Power
    129 W
    Max Avg Power (20 min)
    124 W
    Normalized Power--- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Mark J cleary@mcleary08@comcast.net to rec.bicycles.tech on Fri Jan 9 12:37:33 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    On 1/9/2026 11:42 AM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
    On Thu, 08 Jan 2026 19:02:24 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    On Thu Jan 8 09:51:15 2026 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
    On Wed, 07 Jan 2026 22:14:33 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    On my ride yesterday, my heart rate monitor got a glich in it. It reaqd my averate heart rate correctly but for Max Hearr Rate is read 243 bpm which would kill most people in 2 seconds. Since I'm alive, obviously it was an incorrect readiung. But I wonder how that could have happened?

    243 bpm sounds like AFiB (Atrial fibrillation):
    <https://www.ama-assn.org/public-health/chronic-diseases/what-doctors-wish-patients-knew-about-atrial-fibrillation>
    "Traditionally, we?ve always associated the left top chamber of the
    heart as being the primary driver of atrial fibrillation, where the
    electrical signals get confused and chaotic. This causes the upper
    chambers of the heart to beat at an astonishing rate of 300 to 400
    beats per minute."

    Every Friday, I walk or hike in one of the local parks, typically with
    two friends. Both have AFiB. Both have Apple Watches to monitor
    their heart rate and ECG (electrocardiogram).
    <https://support.apple.com/en-us/120278>
    Because of the chaotic nature of their heartbeats, it is difficult to
    tell that the heart is racing a high speed, especially while walking.
    When the watch indicates >120 bpm, we stop until the heart slows down
    to something approaching normal, which typically takes about five
    minutes.

    Tom, I would normally offer some free advice. However, you usually
    reply with insults and ignore my advice. Therefore, you can work out
    a solution by yourself.

    Irrelevant drivel: I survived a PSMA-PET (prostate-specific membrane
    antigen - positron emission tomography) scan on Tues:
    <https://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/psma-pet-scan/about/pac-20582225>
    Nothing found. Anyway, it was fun playing with my 1950's geiger
    counter and watching the clicks go off scale. The fluorine-18 half
    life is about 110 minutes, so the radiation was gone by this morning.

    And of course no one would ever be able to tell if they were having atrial fibrulations.

    Except for the "no one" part, that's true. I'm told that it's
    difficult to tell. The standard suggestion is go see a doctor and let
    them make the determination.

    "WHAT ARE SOME COMMON SYMPTOMS OF AFib?" <https://www.notimetowait.com/afib-explained?cid=sem_1520441>
    "Only a healthcare professional can tell you if these symptoms are
    AFib, or another potentially serious condition."
    "It is projected that by 2030, approximately 12 million people in the
    U.S. will have AFib"


    My Cardiologist said that I was borderline on going on blood thinners.
    My score was 1 on the chart which is you can go on them or not. I ask
    my Cardiologist what he would do in my situation and he said he would
    not use blood thinners and simply keep taking my 1 baby aspirin each
    morning. I really want to avoid blood thinners if possible they bring up another set of complications themselves, but I don't want a stroke.
    Aspirin no the same as traditional blood thinner but it helps.
    --
    Deacon Mark
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  • From danny burstein@dannyb@panix.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Fri Jan 9 18:49:48 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    On Fri, 9 Jan 2026 17:57:02 -0000 (UTC), danny burstein
    <dannyb@panix.com> wrote:

    [snip... regarding Kardia]

    (No connection to the company except as a very
    happy user, except [a])

    [a] my system blocks and flags inapproriate calls
    out to Google, FB, and lots of other spyware. It
    warned me Kardia was trying to reach Google and
    something like ?Mixmaster? when the program was
    nominally "off".

    I just pulled up the records (it's a different system
    than the one I posted with earlier) and the spy
    company is Mixpanel. And yes, they're ugly, especially
    since, as mentioned earlier, they're still invading
    even when the main program is "off".
    --
    _____________________________________________________
    Knowledge may be power, but communications is the key
    dannyb@panix.com
    [to foil spammers, my address has been double rot-13 encoded]
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  • From Mark J cleary@mcleary08@comcast.net to rec.bicycles.tech on Fri Jan 9 17:34:04 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    On 1/9/2026 12:36 PM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Thu Jan 8 12:20:04 2026 Mark J cleary wrote:
    On 1/8/2026 11:51 AM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
    On Wed, 07 Jan 2026 22:14:33 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    On my ride yesterday, my heart rate monitor got a glich in it. It reaqd my averate heart rate correctly but for Max Hearr Rate is read 243 bpm which would kill most people in 2 seconds. Since I'm alive, obviously it was an incorrect readiung. But I wonder how that could have happened?

    243 bpm sounds like AFiB (Atrial fibrillation):
    <https://www.ama-assn.org/public-health/chronic-diseases/what-doctors-wish-patients-knew-about-atrial-fibrillation>
    "Traditionally, we?ve always associated the left top chamber of the
    heart as being the primary driver of atrial fibrillation, where the
    electrical signals get confused and chaotic. This causes the upper
    chambers of the heart to beat at an astonishing rate of 300 to 400
    beats per minute."

    Every Friday, I walk or hike in one of the local parks, typically with
    two friends. Both have AFiB. Both have Apple Watches to monitor
    their heart rate and ECG (electrocardiogram).
    <https://support.apple.com/en-us/120278>
    Because of the chaotic nature of their heartbeats, it is difficult to
    tell that the heart is racing a high speed, especially while walking.
    When the watch indicates >120 bpm, we stop until the heart slows down
    to something approaching normal, which typically takes about five
    minutes.

    Tom, I would normally offer some free advice. However, you usually
    reply with insults and ignore my advice. Therefore, you can work out
    a solution by yourself.

    Irrelevant drivel: I survived a PSMA-PET (prostate-specific membrane
    antigen - positron emission tomography) scan on Tues:
    <https://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/psma-pet-scan/about/pac-20582225>
    Nothing found. Anyway, it was fun playing with my 1950's geiger
    counter and watching the clicks go off scale. The fluorine-18 half
    life is about 110 minutes, so the radiation was gone by this morning.


    I have AFIB I guess all the time. My crash might have been the issue but
    I could have had it before then easily. I have zero symptoms at all. I
    don't have the traditional high heart rate. Mine after the crash was
    around 60-90. That is high for me given my resting heart rate is about
    45. I was not riding so my resting HR climbed a bit.

    They did put me on Carvedilol and beta blocker 25mg I took it 12.5 twice
    a day. Then after 2 months the cardiologist lowered it to 6.25 twice a
    day. Now I have been back riding the past almost 10 weeks. My resting
    heart rate is 45 again and sometimes sleeping it dips below 40 briefly.

    I ask doc if I still have afib and he said yes he can tell just not
    quite regular beat the EKG showed this the when I first went to him in
    october. As I said I have zero symptoms and on todays ride my HR max was
    148. Here is the data from Garmin 945 and Power meter. The average HR
    was 113 for the 33 mile ride. HR was 51 that is an important number. For
    me though this was close to normal ride but I did finally hit 300 watts
    on the power meter. That has been my biggest since the crash. The
    highest I ever hit on it since I got it about 16 months ago has been
    around 480.

    Distance
    33.09 mi
    Distance
    Nutrition & Hydration
    168
    Resting Calories
    870
    Active Calories
    1,038
    Total Calories Burned
    --
    Calories Consumed
    -1,038
    Calories Net
    774 ml
    Est. Sweat Loss
    -- ml
    Fluid Consumed
    -774 ml
    Fluid Net
    Respiration Rate
    30 brpm
    Avg Respiration Rate
    16 brpm
    Min Respiration Rate
    39 brpm
    Max Respiration Rate
    Training Effect
    Base (Low Aerobic)
    Primary Benefit
    3.4 Impacting
    Aerobic
    0.8 No Benefit
    Anaerobic
    133
    Exercise Load
    Heart Rate

    bpm
    % of Max
    Zones
    113 bpm
    Avg HR
    148 bpm
    Max HR
    51 bpm
    Recovery HR
    Timing
    2:03:37
    Time
    2:03:35
    Moving Time
    2:03:37
    Elapsed Time
    Power
    Watts
    W/kg
    Zones
    117 W
    Avg Power
    300 W
    Max Power
    129 W
    Max Avg Power (20 min)
    124 W
    Normalized Power (NP)
    0.722
    Intensity Factor (IF)
    107.0
    Training Stress Score
    172 W
    FTP Setting
    871 kJ
    Work
    Pace/Speed

    Pace
    Speed
    16.1 mph
    Avg Speed
    16.1 mph
    Avg Moving Speed
    22.1 mph
    Max Speed
    Bike Cadence
    81 rpm
    Avg Bike Cadence
    106 rpm
    Max Bike Cadence
    Strokes
    9,997
    Total Strokes
    Temperature
    68.4 F
    Avg Temp
    66.2 F
    Min Temp
    80.6 F
    Max Temp
    Intensity Minutes
    38 min
    Moderate
    84 minx2
    Vigorous
    206 min
    Total




    Mark, you are on drugs. NO ONE can operate riding a bike with a heart rate of 90 unless they are a professional racer very well trained and on a total recovery ride in zone 1. My heart rate was very low for a long time (sitting and dozing it would dip down to 20) but as I got in shape again it came up to 75 bpm resting. The problem I have now is that my max heart rate is 140 bpm because of my age and going over that can cause another stroke Now my average heart rate riding in 120 or so.

    I did a ride this morning and got two flats and turned back. I was pressing since the tire was worn out but my max heart rate was only 134 and average was only 115. Mind you, this was only 11 miles so if your heart rate won't go above 90 because of your medications, I suggest you keep your riding down to 10 miles a ride and no faster than 10-12 mph.
    tOM, my average heart rate was 113 quite normal at 70% of max at least
    close. My max heart rate was 148 not beyond the usual and below my max
    heart rate.

    Tom I ride inside on a trainer I have a Garmin Flux 2 with a built in
    power meter accuracy at 2% error at the most. What on earth gives you
    the idea about my riding only 10 miles and no faster than 10-12mph. On
    an indoor direct drive with power meter only the power is what is
    actually known the rest in generate based on the power and algorithms.
    The speed is only an estimate it does not mean much the power does.
    Finally the cadence is correct I have counted and checked that.
    --
    Deacon Mark
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