Liebermann, they are warning of flooding today and tomorrow. If I remember correctly, you are at the bottom of those lots so be careful. This break in the rain should give you time to fill up your pantry.
On 1/2/2026 2:59 PM, cyclintom wrote:
Liebermann, they are warning of flooding today and tomorrow. If I remember correctly, you are at the bottom of those lots so be careful. This break in the rain should give you time to fill up your pantry.
Damage has been dramatic to your south this week:Looks like we're in for another heavy rain year. It is unlikely to wash out our local hill roads but there are a couple of local roads that are a danger.
https://ktla.com/news/local-news/severely-damaged-portion-of-angeles-crest-highway-closed/
Check out that photo series on road damage.
Liebermann, they are warning of flooding today and tomorrow. If I remember correctly, you are at the bottom of those lots so be careful. This break in the rain should give you time to fill up your pantry.
On Fri, 02 Jan 2026 20:59:29 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
Liebermann, they are warning of flooding today and tomorrow. If I remember correctly, you are at the bottom of those lots so be careful. This break in the rain should give you time to fill up your pantry.
Most of last year's weather warnings have been overly pessimistic. At
this time, NWS and Windy.com are mostly tracking each other through
Sunday evening: <https://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?lon=-122.09304015350371&lat=37.08133745279595>
<https://www.windy.com/37.081/-122.095?32.547,-122.102,5,p:precip>
(Better to be warned and nothing happens, than to not be warned and
get flooded).
My house is on a fairly steep (45 deg) hillside and well above the San Lorenzo River. The house is an altitude of 778 ft HAE (Height Above Ellipsoid) or 887 ft above MSL (Mean Sea Level). For me to get
flooded would require a biblical inundation. Thanks for the warning.
I've been waiting for an opportunity to test my ability to walk on
water.
Since you posted a Google Maps link to your house, it is only proper
that I reciprocate. This is from Aug 2020: <https://photos.app.goo.gl/FHty84Gq5Vpun5qv9>
I refilled my survival supplies about a week ago. I also have about 2
weeks stock of the essentials and gasoline for the generator. This
was my last shopping list: <https://www.learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/crud/Shopping%20List.xlsx>
I also have about 1.5 cords of oak and madrone firewood left. I've
been carrying the firewood up 50 stairs in 30 lb loads. Seasoned oak
( <15% moisture) weighs about 5,000 lbs per cord. I can haul 10 to 15
loads per day, before I need to give up. Yes, I know I could hire
someone to carry the wood up my stairs, or build some sort of gas or
electric powered contrivance, but I need the exercise.
Looks like we're in for another heavy rain year.
It is unlikely to wash out our local hill roads but there are a couple of local roads that are a danger.
On Fri, 02 Jan 2026 21:28:08 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
Looks like we're in for another heavy rain year.
Maybe. In Santa Cruz county, we get most of our annual precipitation
in Jan and Feb.
In Santa Cruz (city) it's too early to tell. One thing for sure is
that we're way ahead of the last 3 years of drought: <https://www.santacruzca.gov/Government/City-Departments/Water-Department/Weekly-Water-Conditions-in-Santa-Cruz>
<https://www.santacruzca.gov/files/assets/city/v/1/wt/documents/cumulative-precipitation-251228.pdf>
<https://www.santacruzca.gov/files/assets/city/v/1/wt/documents/cumulative-runoff-251228.pdf>
Note that Loch Lomond reservoir is at 93.7% capacity.
It is unlikely to wash out our local hill roads but there are a couple of local roads that are a danger.
If possible, please post a link to a photo of this year's "deep mud"
at the bottom of Cull Canyon. Except for the sign, your previous
photo didn't show any "deep mud": <https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1063064831504932&set=pb.100034042758783.-2207520000&type=3>
On Fri, 02 Jan 2026 21:28:08 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>Sorry, not possible, the new drain at the bottom of the old reservoir flushed mud down Cull creek which took heavy equipment to excavate and that part of the road was blocked off and covered in heavy tree cover. YOU posted a picture of the small bleedoff to the park swimming hole filling with mud wasn't that enough to convince you that somrthing was up?
wrote:
Looks like we're in for another heavy rain year.
Maybe. In Santa Cruz county, we get most of our annual precipitation
in Jan and Feb.
In Santa Cruz (city) it's too early to tell. One thing for sure is
that we're way ahead of the last 3 years of drought: <https://www.santacruzca.gov/Government/City-Departments/Water-Department/Weekly-Water-Conditions-in-Santa-Cruz>
<https://www.santacruzca.gov/files/assets/city/v/1/wt/documents/cumulative-precipitation-251228.pdf>
<https://www.santacruzca.gov/files/assets/city/v/1/wt/documents/cumulative-runoff-251228.pdf>
Note that Loch Lomond reservoir is at 93.7% capacity.
It is unlikely to wash out our local hill roads but there are a couple of local roads that are a danger.
If possible, please post a link to a photo of this year's "deep mud"
at the bottom of Cull Canyon. Except for the sign, your previous
photo didn't show any "deep mud": <https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=3d1063064831504932&set=3dpb.100034042758783.-2207520000&type=3d3>
On 1/2/2026 3:56 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Fri, 02 Jan 2026 20:59:29 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>Hillsides have their own variant of 'flood'. >https://ktla.com/news/local-news/heavy-rain-triggers-mudflow-at-hillside-construction-site-in-sherman-oaks/
wrote:
Liebermann, they are warning of flooding today and tomorrow. If I remember correctly, you are at the bottom of those lots so be careful. This break in the rain should give you time to fill up your pantry.
Most of last year's weather warnings have been overly pessimistic. At
this time, NWS and Windy.com are mostly tracking each other through
Sunday evening:
<https://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?lon=-122.09304015350371&lat=37.08133745279595>
<https://www.windy.com/37.081/-122.095?32.547,-122.102,5,p:precip>
(Better to be warned and nothing happens, than to not be warned and
get flooded).
My house is on a fairly steep (45 deg) hillside and well above the San
Lorenzo River. The house is an altitude of 778 ft HAE (Height Above
Ellipsoid) or 887 ft above MSL (Mean Sea Level). For me to get
flooded would require a biblical inundation. Thanks for the warning.
I've been waiting for an opportunity to test my ability to walk on
water.
Since you posted a Google Maps link to your house, it is only proper
that I reciprocate. This is from Aug 2020:
<https://photos.app.goo.gl/FHty84Gq5Vpun5qv9>
I refilled my survival supplies about a week ago. I also have about 2
weeks stock of the essentials and gasoline for the generator. This
was my last shopping list:
<https://www.learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/crud/Shopping%20List.xlsx>
I also have about 1.5 cords of oak and madrone firewood left. I've
been carrying the firewood up 50 stairs in 30 lb loads. Seasoned oak
( <15% moisture) weighs about 5,000 lbs per cord. I can haul 10 to 15
loads per day, before I need to give up. Yes, I know I could hire
someone to carry the wood up my stairs, or build some sort of gas or
electric powered contrivance, but I need the exercise.
On 1/2/2026 4:33 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Fri, 02 Jan 2026 21:28:08 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
Looks like we're in for another heavy rain year.
Maybe. In Santa Cruz county, we get most of our annual precipitation
in Jan and Feb.
In Santa Cruz (city) it's too early to tell. One thing for sure is
that we're way ahead of the last 3 years of drought:
<https://www.santacruzca.gov/Government/City-Departments/Water-Department/Weekly-Water-Conditions-in-Santa-Cruz>
<https://www.santacruzca.gov/files/assets/city/v/1/wt/documents/cumulative-precipitation-251228.pdf>
<https://www.santacruzca.gov/files/assets/city/v/1/wt/documents/cumulative-runoff-251228.pdf>
Note that Loch Lomond reservoir is at 93.7% capacity.
It is unlikely to wash out our local hill roads but there are a couple of local roads that are a danger.
If possible, please post a link to a photo of this year's "deep mud"
at the bottom of Cull Canyon. Except for the sign, your previous
photo didn't show any "deep mud":
<https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1063064831504932&set=pb.100034042758783.-2207520000&type=3>
I find this very useful every morning: >https://www.iweathernet.com/interactive-radar
You can zoom in as far as needed, shows the next few days
with as reliable an estimate as any IME.
On Fri, 2 Jan 2026 16:45:12 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 1/2/2026 4:33 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Fri, 02 Jan 2026 21:28:08 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
Looks like we're in for another heavy rain year.
Maybe. In Santa Cruz county, we get most of our annual precipitation
in Jan and Feb.
In Santa Cruz (city) it's too early to tell. One thing for sure is
that we're way ahead of the last 3 years of drought:
<https://www.santacruzca.gov/Government/City-Departments/Water-Department/Weekly-Water-Conditions-in-Santa-Cruz>
<https://www.santacruzca.gov/files/assets/city/v/1/wt/documents/cumulative-precipitation-251228.pdf>
<https://www.santacruzca.gov/files/assets/city/v/1/wt/documents/cumulative-runoff-251228.pdf>
Note that Loch Lomond reservoir is at 93.7% capacity.
It is unlikely to wash out our local hill roads but there are a couple of local roads that are a danger.
If possible, please post a link to a photo of this year's "deep mud"
at the bottom of Cull Canyon. Except for the sign, your previous
photo didn't show any "deep mud":
<https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1063064831504932&set=pb.100034042758783.-2207520000&type=3>
I find this very useful every morning:
https://www.iweathernet.com/interactive-radar
You can zoom in as far as needed, shows the next few days
with as reliable an estimate as any IME.
That's just a recycled copy of windy.com. It's also my favorite site
for weather information: <https://www.windy.com/-Menu/menu?radar,40.369,-95.206,4,p:precip> <https://www.windy.com/-Menu/menu?rain,40.380,-95.229,4,p:precip> <https://www.windy.com/-Menu/menu?satellite,40.380,-95.229,4,p:precip>
For satellite view, click on the "Menu" icon in the upper left.
"Weather Radar" is the first icon on the upper left. Also, toggle the "overlay with radar" switch near bottom-center of screen.
iweather.com and others like it exist because windy.com is rather
difficult to use with new features being constantly added. It took me
about 2 months of tinkering to be able to use windy.com efficiently. I
try avoid "processed" weather reports and prefer to make my own
guesses based on data as close to the original data sources as
possible.
Diversion: I like watching lightning maps: <https://www.blitzortung.org/en/live_lightning_maps.php?map=30>
<https://map.blitzortung.org/#1.94/29.63/-8.57>
Play with the settings (hamburger menu in upper right).
On Fri Jan 2 14:33:41 2026 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Fri, 02 Jan 2026 21:28:08 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
Looks like we're in for another heavy rain year.
Maybe. In Santa Cruz county, we get most of our annual precipitation
in Jan and Feb.
In Santa Cruz (city) it's too early to tell. One thing for sure is
that we're way ahead of the last 3 years of drought:
<https://www.santacruzca.gov/Government/City-Departments/Water-Department/Weekly-Water-Conditions-in-Santa-Cruz>
<https://www.santacruzca.gov/files/assets/city/v/1/wt/documents/cumulative-precipitation-251228.pdf>
<https://www.santacruzca.gov/files/assets/city/v/1/wt/documents/cumulative-runoff-251228.pdf>
Note that Loch Lomond reservoir is at 93.7% capacity.
It is unlikely to wash out our local hill roads but there are a couple of local roads that are a danger.
If possible, please post a link to a photo of this year's "deep mud"
at the bottom of Cull Canyon. Except for the sign, your previous
photo didn't show any "deep mud":
<https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1063064831504932&set=pb.100034042758783.-2207520000&type=3>
Sorry, not possible, the new drain at the bottom of the old reservoir flushed mud down Cull creek which took heavy equipment to excavate and that part of the road was blocked off and covered in heavy tree cover.
YOU posted a picture of the small bleedoff to the park swimming hole filling with mud wasn't that enough to convince you that somrthing was up?
Hillsides-ahave-atheir-aown-avariant-aof-a'flood'.
https://ktla.com/news/local-news/heavy-rain-triggers-mudflow-at-hillside-construction-site-in-sherman-oaks/
Of course. Saturate the (clay) ground with rain water and the groundAnd yet more BS, One Wonders why the Siera Nevada mountain range where MOST of the rain falls hasn't complete washed into the see. In fact, mudslides there are rather rare. It takes a special type of mud that water doesn't seal all of the pores which then prevents absorbing any more water except at the rate it is draining out the bottom WITHOUT washing away any mud.
turns to mud. Add a strong wind and trees are likely to fall. I've
lived in the area since 1973(?) and have seen my share of storm
damage. This is what's left of a house that's near my house: <https://photos.app.goo.gl/qaqM1Bd2hMG6X9Si9>
New Year in 2023 was rather bad: <https://santacruzlocal.org/2023/01/10/storm-damage-tops-27-million-in-unincorporated-santa-cruz-county/>
That's one of the risks one must accept to live in paradise.
Hillsides have one advantage over flood plains. Hillsides tend to
shed water while flood plains tend to accumulate water. I've seen
collapsed hillsides, but not flooded hillsizes. However, hillsides do
get undermined: <https://slvpost.com/ben-lomond-neighborhood-seeks-county-response-on-the-highway-9-slide/>
On Fri Jan 2 14:54:06 2026 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
Of course. Saturate the (clay) ground with rain water and the ground
turns to mud. Add a strong wind and trees are likely to fall. I've
lived in the area since 1973(?) and have seen my share of storm
damage. This is what's left of a house that's near my house:
<https://photos.app.goo.gl/qaqM1Bd2hMG6X9Si9>
New Year in 2023 was rather bad:
<https://santacruzlocal.org/2023/01/10/storm-damage-tops-27-million-in-unincorporated-santa-cruz-county/>
That's one of the risks one must accept to live in paradise.
Hillsides have one advantage over flood plains. Hillsides tend to
shed water while flood plains tend to accumulate water. I've seen
collapsed hillsides, but not flooded hillsizes. However, hillsides do
get undermined:
<https://slvpost.com/ben-lomond-neighborhood-seeks-county-response-on-the-highway-9-slide/>
And yet more BS, One Wonders why the Siera Nevada mountain range where MOST of the rain falls hasn't complete washed into the see. In fact, mudslides there are rather rare. It takes a special type of mud that water doesn't seal all of the pores which then prevents absorbing any more water except at the rate it is draining out the bottom WITHOUT washing away any mud.
It had been heavily ranched in Cull Canyon for decades without rain falling as heavily as it did two years ago. Do you remember what POS Liebermann said when I stated that there was all kinds of brown mud on the road? Liebermann acussed me of lying and used some undated pictures from Google Earth to prove his point. Now this worthless scum is telling us that I'm lying about there being no mud on the road. Just how stupid can he get? Even Flunky knows that he's full of it.
On Sun, 11 Jan 2026 00:58:51 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Fri Jan 2 14:54:06 2026 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
Of course. Saturate the (clay) ground with rain water and the ground
turns to mud. Add a strong wind and trees are likely to fall. I've
lived in the area since 1973(?) and have seen my share of storm
damage. This is what's left of a house that's near my house:
<https://photos.app.goo.gl/qaqM1Bd2hMG6X9Si9>
New Year in 2023 was rather bad:
<https://santacruzlocal.org/2023/01/10/storm-damage-tops-27-million-in-unincorporated-santa-cruz-county/>
That's one of the risks one must accept to live in paradise.
Hillsides have one advantage over flood plains. Hillsides tend to
shed water while flood plains tend to accumulate water. I've seen
collapsed hillsides, but not flooded hillsizes. However, hillsides do
get undermined:
<https://slvpost.com/ben-lomond-neighborhood-seeks-county-response-on-the-highway-9-slide/>
And yet more BS, One Wonders why the Siera Nevada mountain range where MOST of the rain falls hasn't complete washed into the see. In fact, mudslides there are rather rare. It takes a special type of mud that water doesn't seal all of the pores which then prevents absorbing any more water except at the rate it is draining out the bottom WITHOUT washing away any mud.
It had been heavily ranched in Cull Canyon for decades without rain falling as heavily as it did two years ago. Do you remember what POS Liebermann said when I stated that there was all kinds of brown mud on the road? Liebermann acussed me of lying and used some undated pictures from Google Earth to prove his point. Now this worthless scum is telling us that I'm lying about there being no mud on the road. Just how stupid can he get? Even Flunky knows that he's full of it.
Nope. It was an undated photo from Tom's Facebook photo album: ><https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1063064831504932&set=pb.100034042758783.-2207520000&type=3>
See the sign? It says:
Warning
Deep Mud
Keep Out
No date because Tom disabled providing EXIF information or deleted the
date in the "info" tab. However, the date the photo was posted: ><https://www.facebook.com/thomas.kunich.1/posts/pfbid02J8CSYnsNpmcpTnpTjKHiMsF2Etg6MwydySMbMAxVFZYDk1kWxopc73Pwob1X1dZAl>
appears on this view. Jan 3, 2024.
That's the middle of winter and possibly the wettest time of the year.
Hey Tom, lookup the weather on Jan 3, 2024 and see if it was raining. >Otherwise, explain why there's no "deep mud" in the photo.
Before I found the above photo, I did try to find some places on
Google Earth showing where "deep mud" might have been located. I
proved a few and asked Tom which was the location. My questions were >ignored. One of the links appears in the comment I added to Tom's
"deep mud" photo on Facebook.
On Sun, 11 Jan 2026 00:58:51 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Fri Jan 2 14:54:06 2026 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
Of course. Saturate the (clay) ground with rain water and the ground
turns to mud. Add a strong wind and trees are likely to fall. I've
lived in the area since 1973(?) and have seen my share of storm
damage. This is what's left of a house that's near my house:
<https://photos.app.goo.gl/qaqM1Bd2hMG6X9Si9>
New Year in 2023 was rather bad:
<https://santacruzlocal.org/2023/01/10/storm-damage-tops-27-million-in-unincorporated-santa-cruz-county/>
That's one of the risks one must accept to live in paradise.
Hillsides have one advantage over flood plains. Hillsides tend to
shed water while flood plains tend to accumulate water. I've seen
collapsed hillsides, but not flooded hillsizes. However, hillsides do
get undermined:
<https://slvpost.com/ben-lomond-neighborhood-seeks-county-response-on-the-highway-9-slide/>
And yet more BS, One Wonders why the Siera Nevada mountain range where MOST of the rain falls hasn't complete washed into the see.
In fact, mudslides there are rather rare.
It takes a special type of mud that water doesn't seal all of the pores which then prevents absorbing any more water except at the rate it is draining out the bottom WITHOUT washing away any mud.
It had been heavily ranched in Cull Canyon for decades without rain falling as heavily as it did two years ago. Do you remember what POS Liebermann said when I stated that there was all kinds of brown mud on the road? Liebermann acussed me of lying and used some undated pictures from Google Earth to prove his point. Now this worthless scum is telling us that I'm lying about there being no mud on the road. Just how stupid can he get? Even Flunky knows that he's full of it.
On Sat, 10 Jan 2026 18:27:07 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:
I just found another photo of the "deep mud" sign: <https://images.alltrails.com/eyJidWNrZXQiOiJhc3NldHMuYWxsdHJhaWxzLmNvbSIsImtleSI6InVwbG9hZHMvcGhvdG8vaW1hZ2UvMzIyODI3NzMvOGVhMDRmMDcwMTMyOWFiYzQ0NmUwZjcyODI1ZjBlNjAuanBnIiwiZWRpdHMiOnsidG9Gb3JtYXQiOiJ3ZWJwIiwicmVzaXplIjp7IndpZHRoIjoyMDQ4LCJoZWlnaHQiOjIwNDgsImZpdCI6Imluc2lkZSJ9LCJyb3RhdGUiOm51bGwsImpwZWciOnsidHJlbGxpc1F1YW50aXNhdGlvbiI6dHJ1ZSwib3ZlcnNob290RGVyaW5naW5nIjp0cnVlLCJvcHRpbWlzZVNjYW5zIjp0cnVlLCJxdWFudGlzYXRpb25UYWJsZSI6M319fQ==>
Hmmm... no mud.
The orange sign on the right says "Fishing Rules" which suggests that
there might have been water in the area.
On Sat, 10 Jan 2026 18:27:07 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:
I just found another photo of the "deep mud" sign: <https://images.alltrails.com/eyJidWNrZXQiOiJhc3NldHMuYWxsdHJhaWxzLmNvbSIsImtleSI6InVwbG9hZHMvcGhvdG8vaW1hZ2UvMzIyODI3NzMvOGVhMDRmMDcwMTMyOWFiYzQ0NmUwZjcyODI1ZjBlNjAuanBnIiwiZWRpdHMiOnsidG9Gb3JtYXQiOiJ3ZWJwIiwicmVzaXplIjp7IndpZHRoIjoyMDQ4LCJoZWlnaHQiOjIwNDgsImZpdCI6Imluc2lkZSJ9LCJyb3RhdGUiOm51bGwsImpwZWciOnsidHJlbGxpc1F1YW50aXNhdGlvbiI6dHJ1ZSwib3ZlcnNob290RGVyaW5naW5nIjp0cnVlLCJvcHRpbWlzZVNjYW5zIjp0cnVlLCJxdWFudGlzYXRpb25UYWJsZSI6M319fQ==>
Hmmm... no mud.
The orange sign on the right says "Fishing Rules" which suggests that
there might have been water in the area.
On Fri Jan 2 14:54:06 2026 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
Of course. Saturate the (clay) ground with rain water and the ground
turns to mud. Add a strong wind and trees are likely to fall. I've
lived in the area since 1973(?) and have seen my share of storm
damage. This is what's left of a house that's near my house:
<https://photos.app.goo.gl/qaqM1Bd2hMG6X9Si9>
New Year in 2023 was rather bad:
<https://santacruzlocal.org/2023/01/10/storm-damage-tops-27-million-in-unincorporated-santa-cruz-county/>
That's one of the risks one must accept to live in paradise.
Hillsides have one advantage over flood plains. Hillsides tend to
shed water while flood plains tend to accumulate water. I've seen
collapsed hillsides, but not flooded hillsizes. However, hillsides do
get undermined:
<https://slvpost.com/ben-lomond-neighborhood-seeks-county-response-on-the-highway-9-slide/>
And yet more BS, One Wonders why the Siera Nevada mountain range where
MOST of the rain falls hasn't complete washed into the see. In fact, mudslides there are rather rare. It takes a special type of mud that
water doesn't seal all of the pores which then prevents absorbing any
more water except at the rate it is draining out the bottom WITHOUT washing away any mud.
It had been heavily ranched in Cull Canyon for decades without rain
falling as heavily as it did two years ago. Do you remember what POS Liebermann said when I stated that there was all kinds of brown mud on
the road? Liebermann acussed me of lying and used some undated pictures
from Google Earth to prove his point. Now this worthless scum is telling
us that I'm lying about there being no mud on the road. Just how stupid
can he get? Even Flunky knows that he's full of it.
On 1/10/2026 9:43 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Sat, 10 Jan 2026 18:27:07 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:
I just found another photo of the "deep mud" sign:
<https://images.alltrails.com/eyJidWNrZXQiOiJhc3NldHMuYWxsdHJhaWxzLmNvbSIsImtleSI6InVwbG9hZHMvcGhvdG8vaW1hZ2UvMzIyODI3NzMvOGVhMDRmMDcwMTMyOWFiYzQ0NmUwZjcyODI1ZjBlNjAuanBnIiwiZWRpdHMiOnsidG9Gb3JtYXQiOiJ3ZWJwIiwicmVzaXplIjp7IndpZHRoIjoyMDQ4LCJoZWlnaHQiOjIwNDgsImZpdCI6Imluc2lkZSJ9LCJyb3RhdGUiOm51bGwsImpwZWciOnsidHJlbGxpc1F1YW50aXNhdGlvbiI6dHJ1ZSwib3ZlcnNob290RGVyaW5naW5nIjp0cnVlLCJvcHRpbWlzZVNjYW5zIjp0cnVlLCJxdWFudGlzYXRpb25UYWJsZSI6M319fQ==>
Hmmm... no mud.
The orange sign on the right says "Fishing Rules" which suggests that
there might have been water in the area.
The guy walking on the ground behind the sign wearing sneakers would
imply there isn't much concern of deep mud.
I came across the name "Liebermann" on the web.
It seems that the name "Lieberman" and " Liebermann" are names
deriving from Lieb, a German and Jewish (Ashkenazic) nickname for a
person from the German lieb or Yiddish lib, meaning 'dear, beloved'
On the other hand the Name "Kunich" seems to be derived from the
Japanese term "Kunoichi" one of the numerous Japanese terns for
'woman'.
It seems logical, does it not,
for 'dearly beloved' to treat others
with loving kindness while women do have their 'bad days' when they
can't get along with anyone.
On Sun, 11 Jan 2026 00:58:51 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Fri Jan 2 14:54:06 2026 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
Of course. Saturate the (clay) ground with rain water and the ground
turns to mud. Add a strong wind and trees are likely to fall. I've
lived in the area since 1973(?) and have seen my share of storm
damage. This is what's left of a house that's near my house:
<https://photos.app.goo.gl/qaqM1Bd2hMG6X9Si9>
New Year in 2023 was rather bad:
<https://santacruzlocal.org/2023/01/10/storm-damage-tops-27-million-in-unincorporated-santa-cruz-county/>
That's one of the risks one must accept to live in paradise.
Hillsides have one advantage over flood plains. Hillsides tend to
shed water while flood plains tend to accumulate water. I've seen
collapsed hillsides, but not flooded hillsizes. However, hillsides do >>>> get undermined:
<https://slvpost.com/ben-lomond-neighborhood-seeks-county-response-on-the-highway-9-slide/>
And yet more BS, One Wonders why the Siera Nevada mountain range where MOST of the rain falls hasn't complete washed into the see.
No, no one wonders that...well....maybe you....
In fact, mudslides there are rather rare.
Not really:
https://geo.libretexts.org/Sandboxes/ajones124_at_sierracollege.edu/Geology_of_California_(DRAFT)/09%3A_Sierra_Nevada/9.07%3A_Natural_Hazards_of_the_Sierra_Nevada
"Along these canyons, both glaciated and not, rockfalls, rockslides and >mudflows occur......there are numerous rockfalls throughout the mountain >range. "
It takes a special type of mud that water doesn't seal all of the pores which then prevents absorbing any more water except at the rate it is draining out the bottom WITHOUT washing away any mud.
"Special kind of mud"? lol.....
It had been heavily ranched in Cull Canyon for decades without rain falling as heavily as it did two years ago. Do you remember what POS Liebermann said when I stated that there was all kinds of brown mud on the road? Liebermann acussed me of lying and used some undated pictures from Google Earth to prove his point. Now this worthless scum is telling us that I'm lying about there being no mud on the road. Just how stupid can he get? Even Flunky knows that he's full of it.
No, Tommy, you're the one that's full of it.
For example, people with a surname of "Black", do not necessarily favorMost likely, the names "black" and "white" refer to hair color.
the color black.
Am 11.01.2026 um 19:56 schrieb Jeff Liebermann:
For example, people with a surname of "Black", do not necessarily favor
the color black.
Most likely, the names "black" and "white" refer to hair color.
On Mon, 12 Jan 2026 11:01:35 +0100, Rolf Mantel
<news@hartig-mantel.de> wrote:
Am 11.01.2026 um 19:56 schrieb Jeff Liebermann:
For example, people with a surname of "Black", do not necessarily favor
the color black.
Most likely, the names "black" and "white" refer to hair color.
True. I mentioned appearance in a sentence you removed from my
comment:
"More commonly, they receive names that match their
disposition, trade, appearance, etc."
Hair color is likely where the names started. However, it seems to be
more complicated than just hair color: <https://en.geneanet.org/surnames/BLACK> <https://en.geneanet.org/surnames/WHITE>
On 1/12/2026 11:58 AM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jan 2026 11:01:35 +0100, Rolf Mantel
<news@hartig-mantel.de> wrote:
Am 11.01.2026 um 19:56 schrieb Jeff Liebermann:
For example, people with a surname of "Black", do not necessarily favor >>>> the color black.
Most likely, the names "black" and "white" refer to hair color.
True. I mentioned appearance in a sentence you removed from my
comment:
"More commonly, they receive names that match their
disposition, trade, appearance, etc."
Hair color is likely where the names started. However, it seems to be
more complicated than just hair color:
<https://en.geneanet.org/surnames/BLACK>
<https://en.geneanet.org/surnames/WHITE>
Yep, as in Eduardo Bianchi, = "Mr White".
As my friend Nathan Weiss reports, his students address him
as both Senor Bianco and Hey Whitey.
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