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Bicycles are only convenient as transportation if distances are moderate. People ate the coffee shops are struck dumb hearing that I put in 4000 miles in a year and 50 miles in a day. Or that mu coffee shop ride is 27 miles round trip. But people like Roger are properly not in the least impressed.
Distances in the SF bay area are pretty large and the average health of people rather bad so riding a bicycle for 4 or 5 miles is a long way for commuters. One would think that would invite companies to locate relatively near mass transportation links but with typical Silicon Valley thinking they don't.
This causes inflation of wages as everyone drives to work and atteps to outdo each other in the worth of their vehicles.
We know that bicycles are quite a popular mode of transpostation in the small countries like Belgium and Holland simply because of the much shorter distances to commute. Why do you suppose that lesson is not learned by larger countries and public transportation used to fill that gap?
I cannot remember the means by which I commuted to San Francisco when I was coowner of the telephone business but I suppose it was via BART and foot since San Fransisco being built largely before the automobile, has a fairly complete public tgransportation system. If you are familiar with San Francisco it is easy to avoid the worst of the hills and bicycle almost anywhere in the city. And with the narrow streets and heavy traffic, bicycles are a good way to travel which is why there are bicycle couriers for hard paper business.
Maybe one day BART will have a station directly at the Tesla cite.
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cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:

Bicycles are only convenient as transportation if distances are moderate. People ate the coffee shops are struck dumb hearing that I put in 4000
miles in a year and 50 miles in a day. Or that mu coffee shop ride is 27 miles round trip. But people like Roger are properly not in the least impressed.

For a club or similar rider thatrCOs kinda what yourCOd expect. ItrCOs what I tend to do though my Gravel and MTB rides tend to be 20/40ish.

Distances in the SF bay area are pretty large and the average health of people rather bad so riding a bicycle for 4 or 5 miles is a long way for commuters. One would think that would invite companies to locate
relatively near mass transportation links but with typical Silicon Valley thinking they don't.

This causes inflation of wages as everyone drives to work and atteps to
outdo each other in the worth of their vehicles.

We know that bicycles are quite a popular mode of transpostation in the
small countries like Belgium and Holland simply because of the much
shorter distances to commute. Why do you suppose that lesson is not
learned by larger countries and public transportation used to fill that gap?

Certainly for the Dutch that isnrCOt the distance but the design in the same way that US cities are hugely designed for the car and the suburbs, the Bay Area has more or less same population as London proper but significantly
less public transportation.

I cannot remember the means by which I commuted to San Francisco when I
was coowner of the telephone business but I suppose it was via BART and
foot since San Fransisco being built largely before the automobile, has a fairly complete public tgransportation system. If you are familiar with
San Francisco it is easy to avoid the worst of the hills and bicycle
almost anywhere in the city. And with the narrow streets and heavy
traffic, bicycles are a good way to travel which is why there are bicycle couriers for hard paper business.

Maybe one day BART will have a station directly at the Tesla cite.

Roger Merriman


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On Thu Jan 1 21:19:27 2026 Roger Merriman wrote:

cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:

Bicycles are only convenient as transportation if distances are moderate. People ate the coffee shops are struck dumb hearing that I put in 4000 miles in a year and 50 miles in a day. Or that mu coffee shop ride is 27 miles round trip. But people like Roger are properly not in the least impressed.

For a club or similar rider that?s kinda what you?d expect. It?s what I
tend to do though my Gravel and MTB rides tend to be 20/40ish.

Distances in the SF bay area are pretty large and the average health of people rather bad so riding a bicycle for 4 or 5 miles is a long way for commuters. One would think that would invite companies to locate
relatively near mass transportation links but with typical Silicon Valley thinking they don't.

This causes inflation of wages as everyone drives to work and atteps to outdo each other in the worth of their vehicles.

We know that bicycles are quite a popular mode of transpostation in the small countries like Belgium and Holland simply because of the much
shorter distances to commute. Why do you suppose that lesson is not
learned by larger countries and public transportation used to fill that gap?

Certainly for the Dutch that isn?t the distance but the design in the same way that US cities are hugely designed for the car and the suburbs, the Bay Area has more or less same population as London proper but significantly
less public transportation.

I cannot remember the means by which I commuted to San Francisco when I
was coowner of the telephone business but I suppose it was via BART and foot since San Fransisco being built largely before the automobile, has a fairly complete public tgransportation system. If you are familiar with
San Francisco it is easy to avoid the worst of the hills and bicycle
almost anywhere in the city. And with the narrow streets and heavy
traffic, bicycles are a good way to travel which is why there are bicycle couriers for hard paper business.

Maybe one day BART will have a station directly at the Tesla cite.

I agree with you but public transportation is improving. It would be better if companies stopped locating their property near their CEO and more for the convienience of their employees.
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