http://www.yellowjersey.org/ny26.htmlHow do you ride without going over? The tires would have to slip no way.
http://www.yellowjersey.org/ny26.htmlToday's ride inside actually pretty good other that outright pure
On 1/1/2026 1:28 PM, AMuzi wrote:
http://www.yellowjersey.org/ny26.htmlHow do you ride without going over? The tires would have to
slip no way.
On 1/1/2026 1:56 PM, Mark J cleary wrote:
On 1/1/2026 1:28 PM, AMuzi wrote:
http://www.yellowjersey.org/ny26.htmlHow do you ride without going over? The tires would have to
slip no way.
They did indeed, especially when crossing tire ruts in the
ice. I recovered each time on 23mm tubulars. The guy in the
2d photo has steel stud tires.
AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 1/1/2026 1:56 PM, Mark J cleary wrote:Do remember the thrill of riding on snow/ice with 23/25mm clinchers snow wasnrCOt too bad but didnrCOt like ice ridges much, though was with reason rideable.
On 1/1/2026 1:28 PM, AMuzi wrote:
http://www.yellowjersey.org/ny26.htmlHow do you ride without going over? The tires would have to
slip no way.
They did indeed, especially when crossing tire ruts in the
ice. I recovered each time on 23mm tubulars. The guy in the
2d photo has steel stud tires.
IrCOd expect the old school roadie with its 28mm tyres to be similar, the rest of my bikes even the old MTB derived commuter are rather easier in the such conditions, be that having bigger contact patches and geometry that is less bothered, the non commuter bikes are quite a step up in ability to be fairly unbothered by such weather which isnrCOt common in the south of the UK.
Temperature have fallen to more normal levels recently in uk, so seeing -1 maybe bit lower on the early morning commutes more frost than ice though, mind was ice in Wales over Christmas, in places.
Roger Merriman
On 1/1/2026 2:50 PM, Roger Merriman wrote:
AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 1/1/2026 1:56 PM, Mark J cleary wrote:Do remember the thrill of riding on snow/ice with 23/25mm clinchers snow
On 1/1/2026 1:28 PM, AMuzi wrote:
http://www.yellowjersey.org/ny26.htmlHow do you ride without going over? The tires would have to
slip no way.
They did indeed, especially when crossing tire ruts in the
ice. I recovered each time on 23mm tubulars. The guy in the
2d photo has steel stud tires.
wasnrCOt too bad but didnrCOt like ice ridges much, though was with reason >> rideable.
IrCOd expect the old school roadie with its 28mm tyres to be similar, the
rest of my bikes even the old MTB derived commuter are rather easier in the >> such conditions, be that having bigger contact patches and geometry that is >> less bothered, the non commuter bikes are quite a step up in ability to be >> fairly unbothered by such weather which isnrCOt common in the south of the >> UK.
Temperature have fallen to more normal levels recently in uk, so seeing -1 >> maybe bit lower on the early morning commutes more frost than ice though,
mind was ice in Wales over Christmas, in places.
Roger Merriman
Photo update just received from Camera Two: http://www.yellowjersey.org/photosfromthepast/ny26c.jpg
http://www.yellowjersey.org/ny26.htmlI notice that you sell a pretty complete set of cranks with tapered square BB's. If buyers know that the taper on Shimano and Campy are different and order the correct parts, the tapered square cranks perform better than the present version built for lightness and without the BB friction of the present Shimano cranksets. If instead of square taper you use ISIS connections the weight difference is negligable and BB friction almost nonexistant.
AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 1/1/2026 2:50 PM, Roger Merriman wrote:
AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 1/1/2026 1:56 PM, Mark J cleary wrote:Do remember the thrill of riding on snow/ice with 23/25mm clinchers snow >>> wasnrCOt too bad but didnrCOt like ice ridges much, though was with reason >>> rideable.
On 1/1/2026 1:28 PM, AMuzi wrote:
http://www.yellowjersey.org/ny26.htmlHow do you ride without going over? The tires would have to
slip no way.
They did indeed, especially when crossing tire ruts in the
ice. I recovered each time on 23mm tubulars. The guy in the
2d photo has steel stud tires.
IrCOd expect the old school roadie with its 28mm tyres to be similar, the >>> rest of my bikes even the old MTB derived commuter are rather easier in the >>> such conditions, be that having bigger contact patches and geometry that is >>> less bothered, the non commuter bikes are quite a step up in ability to be >>> fairly unbothered by such weather which isnrCOt common in the south of the >>> UK.
Temperature have fallen to more normal levels recently in uk, so seeing -1 >>> maybe bit lower on the early morning commutes more frost than ice though, >>> mind was ice in Wales over Christmas, in places.
Roger Merriman
Photo update just received from Camera Two:
http://www.yellowjersey.org/photosfromthepast/ny26c.jpg
Looks fun, I do like snow though if places arenrCOt set up for it can be challenging, london as it rarely snows now, has little infrastructure to
deal with it!
Roger Merriman
On 1/1/2026 2:50 PM, Roger Merriman wrote:
AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 1/1/2026 1:56 PM, Mark J cleary wrote:Do remember the thrill of riding on snow/ice with 23/25mm clinchers snow wasn?t too bad but didn?t like ice ridges much, though was with reason rideable.
On 1/1/2026 1:28 PM, AMuzi wrote:
http://www.yellowjersey.org/ny26.htmlHow do you ride without going over? The tires would have to
slip no way.
They did indeed, especially when crossing tire ruts in the
ice. I recovered each time on 23mm tubulars. The guy in the
2d photo has steel stud tires.
I?d expect the old school roadie with its 28mm tyres to be similar, the rest of my bikes even the old MTB derived commuter are rather easier in the such conditions, be that having bigger contact patches and geometry that is less bothered, the non commuter bikes are quite a step up in ability to be fairly unbothered by such weather which isn?t common in the south of the UK.
Temperature have fallen to more normal levels recently in uk, so seeing -1 maybe bit lower on the early morning commutes more frost than ice though, mind was ice in Wales over Christmas, in places.
Roger Merriman
Photo update just received from Camera Two: http://www.yellowjersey.org/photosfromthepast/ny26c.jpgYikes!
On Thu Jan 1 13:28:31 2026 AMuzi wrote:
http://www.yellowjersey.org/ny26.html
I notice that you sell a pretty complete set of cranks with tapered square BB's. If buyers know that the taper on Shimano and Campy are different and order the correct parts, the tapered square cranks perform better than the present version built for lightness and without the BB friction of the present Shimano cranksets. If instead of square taper you use ISIS connections the weight difference is negligable and BB friction almost nonexistant.
I agree with you that caged rollers are better than sealed bearings since they are much more tolerant of imperfections in the steering tube or steering shaft on the fork.
While professional racers ask for and get the lightest high perfrmance bikes possible, metal bikes are far more reliable and are not nearly as dangerous as the superlights. I am often paased on the local bike paths by people who fancy themselves racers. In general I never rode like that except when I got tired of the group leaders taking off and they needed to be shown that other people could ride that fast but preferred not to.
Specialized is discovering that a part of their market want to ride fast but do not have the strength to so so and have broken in to the E-bike market in a strong move to take that market over.
But I will remain with standard bikes and slower speeds. Next Spring I will attempt to do the same longer rides I used to do and see if my heart can take it. I think it will if I'm careful and do not take the impossible routes I used to do. Moraga seems easy enough since there is only on place with a +12% grade and it is only 100 feet long.
Norris Canyon isn't that steep but is harder because the climb is longer. Dublin Blvd. Is steep on one of its 4 rises and the ride out to Pleasanton can be taken slow enough that you can keep your heart rate down.
My winter riding seldom drops to freezing and I have the gear to handle it though I need a new set of thermal tights.
On 1/1/2026 3:09 PM, Roger Merriman wrote:
AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 1/1/2026 2:50 PM, Roger Merriman wrote:
AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 1/1/2026 1:56 PM, Mark J cleary wrote:Do remember the thrill of riding on snow/ice with 23/25mm clinchers snow >>>> wasnrCOt too bad but didnrCOt like ice ridges much, though was with reason >>>> rideable.
On 1/1/2026 1:28 PM, AMuzi wrote:
http://www.yellowjersey.org/ny26.htmlHow do you ride without going over? The tires would have to
slip no way.
They did indeed, especially when crossing tire ruts in the
ice. I recovered each time on 23mm tubulars. The guy in the
2d photo has steel stud tires.
IrCOd expect the old school roadie with its 28mm tyres to be similar, the >>>> rest of my bikes even the old MTB derived commuter are rather easier in the
such conditions, be that having bigger contact patches and geometry that is
less bothered, the non commuter bikes are quite a step up in ability to be >>>> fairly unbothered by such weather which isnrCOt common in the south of the >>>> UK.
Temperature have fallen to more normal levels recently in uk, so seeing -1 >>>> maybe bit lower on the early morning commutes more frost than ice though, >>>> mind was ice in Wales over Christmas, in places.
Roger Merriman
Photo update just received from Camera Two:
http://www.yellowjersey.org/photosfromthepast/ny26c.jpg
Looks fun, I do like snow though if places arenrCOt set up for it can be
challenging, london as it rarely snows now, has little infrastructure to
deal with it!
Roger Merriman
uh, 14F is minus ten C to you.
At 28F (-2C) it's much more fun.
http://www.yellowjersey.org/ny26.html
On Thu, 1 Jan 2026 13:28:31 -0600,
AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
http://www.yellowjersey.org/ny26.html
I've gotta hand it to you, Andrew. Kudos for getting out at that
temp. How long were you out in it?
I used to ride in the 30s (F) and sometimes in the 20s if no wind,
but at 70 generally choose rollers in the garage if it's much
below 40 F. I just cannot keep my hands warm enough. I put
chemical hot packs under my toes, but can't get them to my fingers
without mittens (and resuting loss of shifter control).
On 1/2/2026 9:12 AM, Ted Heise wrote:
On Thu, 1 Jan 2026 13:28:31 -0600,
AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
http://www.yellowjersey.org/ny26.html
I've gotta hand it to you, Andrew. Kudos for getting out at that
temp. How long were you out in it?
I used to ride in the 30s (F) and sometimes in the 20s if no wind,
but at 70 generally choose rollers in the garage if it's much
below 40 F. I just cannot keep my hands warm enough. I put
chemical hot packs under my toes, but can't get them to my fingers
without mittens (and resuting loss of shifter control).
Not the coldest New Year's Ride and with no wind not the
most unpleasant either. Meh.
https://www.yellowjersey.org/NYD.html
It's become a mini tradition and since the original
participants are all dead, the responsibility has fallen to me.
On 1/1/2026 3:32 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Thu Jan 1 13:28:31 2026 AMuzi wrote:
http://www.yellowjersey.org/ny26.html
I notice that you sell a pretty complete set of cranks with tapered square BB's. If buyers know that the taper on Shimano and Campy are different and order the correct parts, the tapered square cranks perform better than the present version built for lightness and without the BB friction of the present Shimano cranksets. If instead of square taper you use ISIS connections the weight difference is negligable and BB friction almost nonexistant.
I agree with you that caged rollers are better than sealed bearings since they are much more tolerant of imperfections in the steering tube or steering shaft on the fork.
While professional racers ask for and get the lightest high perfrmance bikes possible, metal bikes are far more reliable and are not nearly as dangerous as the superlights. I am often paased on the local bike paths by people who fancy themselves racers. In general I never rode like that except when I got tired of the group leaders taking off and they needed to be shown that other people could ride that fast but preferred not to.
Specialized is discovering that a part of their market want to ride fast but do not have the strength to so so and have broken in to the E-bike market in a strong move to take that market over.
But I will remain with standard bikes and slower speeds. Next Spring I will attempt to do the same longer rides I used to do and see if my heart can take it. I think it will if I'm careful and do not take the impossible routes I used to do. Moraga seems easy enough since there is only on place with a +12% grade and it is only 100 feet long.
Norris Canyon isn't that steep but is harder because the climb is longer. Dublin Blvd. Is steep on one of its 4 rises and the ride out to Pleasanton can be taken slow enough that you can keep your heart rate down.
My winter riding seldom drops to freezing and I have the gear to handle it though I need a new set of thermal tights.
The range of "good equipment" is wide (as is the range ofThere might have been some damage to the Kestrelo but most certainly not a broken tube which would be a very major job to repair if the repairman didn't suggest junking the frame. Breqaks in the heavy layup of Kestrels were fairly easily repaired with materials from my local "Plastics R Us".
"crap", actually).
The frame linked above is a salvage 1988 Kestrel, first
owner's crack repaired after crash damage in 1993, no
trouble since. That track crank is a 1966 Record, second
owner, also last installed in 1993 and also forgettably
dependable.
On 1/2/2026 9:12 AM, Ted Heise wrote:
On Thu, 1 Jan 2026 13:28:31 -0600,
AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
http://www.yellowjersey.org/ny26.html
I've gotta hand it to you, Andrew. Kudos for getting out at that
temp. How long were you out in it?
I used to ride in the 30s (F) and sometimes in the 20s if no wind,
but at 70 generally choose rollers in the garage if it's much
below 40 F. I just cannot keep my hands warm enough. I put
chemical hot packs under my toes, but can't get them to my fingers
without mittens (and resuting loss of shifter control).
Not the coldest New Year's Ride and with no wind not theWe had some sub-freezing temperatures in the morning and we did a ride out to Moraga and back. It was almost niin and well above freezinf when I returned to Redwood Rd. As I turned onto the perfectly normal lookintg pavement I slid all the way across the road and caught traction of the far edge of a pretty wide lane. The road was in shadow at this point but that was the only time I was caught so off-guard.
most unpleasant either. Meh.
https://www.yellowjersey.org/NYD.html
It's become a mini tradition and since the original
participants are all dead, the responsibility has fallen to me.
On Thu Jan 1 15:42:38 2026 AMuzi wrote:
On 1/1/2026 3:32 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Thu Jan 1 13:28:31 2026 AMuzi wrote:
http://www.yellowjersey.org/ny26.html
I notice that you sell a pretty complete set of cranks with tapered square BB's. If buyers know that the taper on Shimano and Campy are different and order the correct parts, the tapered square cranks perform better than the present version built for lightness and without the BB friction of the present Shimano cranksets. If instead of square taper you use ISIS connections the weight difference is negligable and BB friction almost nonexistant.
I agree with you that caged rollers are better than sealed bearings since they are much more tolerant of imperfections in the steering tube or steering shaft on the fork.
While professional racers ask for and get the lightest high perfrmance bikes possible, metal bikes are far more reliable and are not nearly as dangerous as the superlights. I am often paased on the local bike paths by people who fancy themselves racers. In general I never rode like that except when I got tired of the group leaders taking off and they needed to be shown that other people could ride that fast but preferred not to.
Specialized is discovering that a part of their market want to ride fast but do not have the strength to so so and have broken in to the E-bike market in a strong move to take that market over.
But I will remain with standard bikes and slower speeds. Next Spring I will attempt to do the same longer rides I used to do and see if my heart can take it. I think it will if I'm careful and do not take the impossible routes I used to do. Moraga seems easy enough since there is only on place with a +12% grade and it is only 100 feet long.
Norris Canyon isn't that steep but is harder because the climb is longer. Dublin Blvd. Is steep on one of its 4 rises and the ride out to Pleasanton can be taken slow enough that you can keep your heart rate down.
My winter riding seldom drops to freezing and I have the gear to handle it though I need a new set of thermal tights.
The range of "good equipment" is wide (as is the range of
"crap", actually).
The frame linked above is a salvage 1988 Kestrel, first
owner's crack repaired after crash damage in 1993, no
trouble since. That track crank is a 1966 Record, second
owner, also last installed in 1993 and also forgettably
dependable.
There might have been some damage to the Kestrelo but most certainly not a broken tube which would be a very major job to repair if the repairman didn't suggest junking the frame. Breqaks in the heavy layup of Kestrels were fairly easily repaired with materials from my local "Plastics R Us".
I have seen too many carbon fiber failures to trust them.
We had some sub-freezing temperatures in the morning
On 1/2/2026 9:12 AM, Ted Heise wrote:
On Thu, 1 Jan 2026 13:28:31 -0600,
AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
http://www.yellowjersey.org/ny26.html
I've gotta hand it to you, Andrew. Kudos for getting out at
that temp. How long were you out in it?
Not the coldest New Year's Ride and with no wind not the most
unpleasant either. Meh.
https://www.yellowjersey.org/NYD.html
It's become a mini tradition and since the original
participants are all dead, the responsibility has fallen to me.
On Fri, 2 Jan 2026 09:42:01 -0600,
AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 1/2/2026 9:12 AM, Ted Heise wrote:
On Thu, 1 Jan 2026 13:28:31 -0600,
AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
http://www.yellowjersey.org/ny26.html
I've gotta hand it to you, Andrew. Kudos for getting out at
that temp. How long were you out in it?
Not the coldest New Year's Ride and with no wind not the most
unpleasant either. Meh.
https://www.yellowjersey.org/NYD.html
It's become a mini tradition and since the original
participants are all dead, the responsibility has fallen to me.
To the survivor go the spoils!
How long were you out riding in the cold, an hour? Two? More?
On Fri, 02 Jan 2026 21:24:32 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>Why are you posting? I was posting about three years ago in the Oakland hills and you're showing temperatures at Oakland Airport which is situated directly on and moderated by the bay? Why do you continuously post about things you know nothing about?
wrote:
We had some sub-freezing temperatures in the morning
No, you didn't. The lowest temperature recorded at nearby KOAK
airport was 38F on Dec 28: <https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=3dKOAK&hours=3d96&units=3denglish&chart=3don&headers=3don&obs=3dtabular&hourly=3dtrue>
On Jan 2 (today) it hasn't dropped below 55F.
On Fri Jan 2 14:09:33 2026 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Fri, 02 Jan 2026 21:24:32 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
We had some sub-freezing temperatures in the morning
No, you didn't. The lowest temperature recorded at nearby KOAK
airport was 38F on Dec 28:
<https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=KOAK&hours=96&units=english&chart=on&headers=on&obs=tabular&hourly=true>
On Jan 2 (today) it hasn't dropped below 55F.
Why are you posting? I was posting about three years ago in the Oakland hills and you're showing temperatures at Oakland Airport which is situated directly on and moderated by the bay? Why do you continuously post about things you know nothing about?
On 1/1/2026 1:56 PM, Mark J cleary wrote:
On 1/1/2026 1:28 PM, AMuzi wrote:
http://www.yellowjersey.org/ny26.htmlHow do you ride without going over? The tires would have to slip no way.
They did indeed, especially when crossing tire ruts in the ice. I
recovered each time on 23mm tubulars. The guy in the 2d photo has steel
stud tires.
On Fri, 02 Jan 2026 22:58:28 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Fri Jan 2 14:09:33 2026 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Fri, 02 Jan 2026 21:24:32 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
We had some sub-freezing temperatures in the morning
No, you didn't. The lowest temperature recorded at nearby KOAK
airport was 38F on Dec 28:
<https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=KOAK&hours=96&units=english&chart=on&headers=on&obs=tabular&hourly=true>
On Jan 2 (today) it hasn't dropped below 55F.
Why are you posting? I was posting about three years ago in the Oakland hills and you're showing temperatures at Oakland Airport which is situated directly on and moderated by the bay? Why do you continuously post about things you know nothing about?
Because the distance between your house in San Leandro and Oakland International Airport is only about 4 miles apart: <https://maps.app.goo.gl/nKLRRAf2bygabjZW8>
That's sufficiently close to the same temperature. There might be a
few degrees difference but not:
55F - 32F = 23F
difference in temperature.
You were NOT posting about something from 3 years ago. You wrote:
"We had some sub-freezing temperatures in the morning and we did a
ride out to Moraga and back. It was almost niin and well above
freezinf when I returned to Redwood Rd."
I read the above as the morning of Jan 2, 2026(today), at your house.
You did pass through the airport this morning: <https://www.strava.com/activities/16888585099>
However, if Moraga means you went you rode from your house to Moraga
Drive, that's 0.2 miles away:
<https://maps.app.goo.gl/U5a5H8Thvr8sFBJM7>
On 1/1/2026 3:03 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 1/1/2026 1:56 PM, Mark J cleary wrote:
On 1/1/2026 1:28 PM, AMuzi wrote:
http://www.yellowjersey.org/ny26.htmlHow do you ride without going over? The tires would have
to slip no way.
They did indeed, especially when crossing tire ruts in the
ice. I recovered each time on 23mm tubulars. The guy in
the 2d photo has steel stud tires.
Even happens to the pros, this from Yesterdays UCI
Zilvermeercross in in Mol Belgium.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DTBRJCzjmNv/
The last crash is Wout van Aert (in yellow) - broken right
ankle - you can see the extreme angle it was bent to as he
goes down.
On 1/2/2026 4:18 PM, Ted Heise wrote:
On Fri, 2 Jan 2026 09:42:01 -0600,
AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 1/2/2026 9:12 AM, Ted Heise wrote:
On Thu, 1 Jan 2026 13:28:31 -0600,
AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
http://www.yellowjersey.org/ny26.html
I've gotta hand it to you, Andrew. Kudos for getting out at
that temp. How long were you out in it?
Not the coldest New Year's Ride and with no wind not the
most unpleasant either. Meh.
https://www.yellowjersey.org/NYD.html
It's become a mini tradition and since the original
participants are all dead, the responsibility has fallen to
me.
To the survivor go the spoils!
How long were you out riding in the cold, an hour? Two? More?
Loop around the village, 20~25 minutes. Given the temperature
and road conditions that was quite enough.
On 1/3/2026 7:28 AM, zen cycle wrote:
On 1/1/2026 3:03 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 1/1/2026 1:56 PM, Mark J cleary wrote:
On 1/1/2026 1:28 PM, AMuzi wrote:
http://www.yellowjersey.org/ny26.htmlHow do you ride without going over? The tires would have to slip no
way.
They did indeed, especially when crossing tire ruts in the ice. I
recovered each time on 23mm tubulars. The guy in the 2d photo has
steel stud tires.
Even happens to the pros, this from Yesterdays UCI Zilvermeercross in
in Mol Belgium.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DTBRJCzjmNv/
The last crash is Wout van Aert (in yellow) - broken right ankle - you
can see the extreme angle it was bent to as he goes down.
Ouch!-a That's a bad fall.
On Fri, 2 Jan 2026 16:27:47 -0600,
AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 1/2/2026 4:18 PM, Ted Heise wrote:
On Fri, 2 Jan 2026 09:42:01 -0600,
AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 1/2/2026 9:12 AM, Ted Heise wrote:
On Thu, 1 Jan 2026 13:28:31 -0600,
AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
http://www.yellowjersey.org/ny26.html
I've gotta hand it to you, Andrew. Kudos for getting out at
that temp. How long were you out in it?
Not the coldest New Year's Ride and with no wind not the
most unpleasant either. Meh.
https://www.yellowjersey.org/NYD.html
It's become a mini tradition and since the original
participants are all dead, the responsibility has fallen to
me.
To the survivor go the spoils!
How long were you out riding in the cold, an hour? Two? More?
Loop around the village, 20~25 minutes. Given the temperature
and road conditions that was quite enough.
Very sensible, Andrew. :)
On 1/2/2026 7:09 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Fri, 02 Jan 2026 22:58:28 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Fri Jan 2 14:09:33 2026 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Fri, 02 Jan 2026 21:24:32 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
We had some sub-freezing temperatures in the morning
No, you didn't. The lowest temperature recorded at nearby KOAK
airport was 38F on Dec 28:
<https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=KOAK&hours=96&units=english&chart=on&headers=on&obs=tabular&hourly=true>
On Jan 2 (today) it hasn't dropped below 55F.
Why are you posting? I was posting about three years ago in the Oakland hills and you're showing temperatures at Oakland Airport which is situated directly on and moderated by the bay? Why do you continuously post about things you know nothing about?
Because the distance between your house in San Leandro and Oakland
International Airport is only about 4 miles apart:
<https://maps.app.goo.gl/nKLRRAf2bygabjZW8>
That's sufficiently close to the same temperature. There might be a
few degrees difference but not:
55F - 32F = 23F
difference in temperature.
You were NOT posting about something from 3 years ago. You wrote:
"We had some sub-freezing temperatures in the morning and we did a
ride out to Moraga and back. It was almost niin and well above
freezinf when I returned to Redwood Rd."
I read the above as the morning of Jan 2, 2026(today), at your house.
You did pass through the airport this morning:
<https://www.strava.com/activities/16888585099>
However, if Moraga means you went you rode from your house to Moraga
Drive, that's 0.2 miles away:
<https://maps.app.goo.gl/U5a5H8Thvr8sFBJM7>
According to >https://www.worldweatheronline.com/v2/historical-weather.aspx?q=94570&tp=3, >the last time the weather in Moraga went below freezing was 2016, at 31F.
On 1/2/2026 7:09 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Fri, 02 Jan 2026 22:58:28 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Fri Jan 2 14:09:33 2026 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Fri, 02 Jan 2026 21:24:32 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
We had some sub-freezing temperatures in the morning
No, you didn't. The lowest temperature recorded at nearby KOAK
airport was 38F on Dec 28:
<https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=3dKOAK&hours=3d96&units=3denglish&chart=3don&headers=3don&obs=3dtabular&hourly=3dtrue>
On Jan 2 (today) it hasn't dropped below 55F.
Why are you posting? I was posting about three years ago in the Oakland hills and you're showing temperatures at Oakland Airport which is situated directly on and moderated by the bay? Why do you continuously post about things you know nothing about?
Because the distance between your house in San Leandro and Oakland International Airport is only about 4 miles apart: <https://maps.app.goo.gl/nKLRRAf2bygabjZW8>
That's sufficiently close to the same temperature. There might be a
few degrees difference but not:
55F - 32F =3d 23F
difference in temperature.
You were NOT posting about something from 3 years ago. You wrote:
"We had some sub-freezing temperatures in the morning and we did a
ride out to Moraga and back. It was almost niin and well above
freezinf when I returned to Redwood Rd."
I read the above as the morning of Jan 2, 2026(today), at your house.
You did pass through the airport this morning: <https://www.strava.com/activities/16888585099>
However, if Moraga means you went you rode from your house to Moraga
Drive, that's 0.2 miles away:
<https://maps.app.goo.gl/U5a5H8Thvr8sFBJM7>
According to https://www.worldweatheronline.com/v2/historical-weather.aspx?q=3d94570&tp=3d3,Why are both of your posting utter bullshit? That ASS Liebermann is telling us about the temperature difference between the Oakland Airport and my house (which by the way is always at least 2 degrees since I am not on the bay) and you are ignoring my posting and telling us the temperature in Morage which is in the Livermore Valley?
the last time the weather in Moraga went below freezing was 2016, at 31F.
On Sat, 3 Jan 2026 08:49:01 -0500, zen cycle
<funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 1/2/2026 7:09 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Fri, 02 Jan 2026 22:58:28 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Fri Jan 2 14:09:33 2026 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Fri, 02 Jan 2026 21:24:32 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
We had some sub-freezing temperatures in the morning
No, you didn't. The lowest temperature recorded at nearby KOAK
airport was 38F on Dec 28:
<https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=KOAK&hours=96&units=english&chart=on&headers=on&obs=tabular&hourly=true>
On Jan 2 (today) it hasn't dropped below 55F.
Why are you posting? I was posting about three years ago in the Oakland hills and you're showing temperatures at Oakland Airport which is situated directly on and moderated by the bay? Why do you continuously post about things you know nothing about?
Because the distance between your house in San Leandro and Oakland
International Airport is only about 4 miles apart:
<https://maps.app.goo.gl/nKLRRAf2bygabjZW8>
That's sufficiently close to the same temperature. There might be a
few degrees difference but not:
55F - 32F = 23F
difference in temperature.
You were NOT posting about something from 3 years ago. You wrote:
"We had some sub-freezing temperatures in the morning and we did a
ride out to Moraga and back. It was almost niin and well above
freezinf when I returned to Redwood Rd."
I read the above as the morning of Jan 2, 2026(today), at your house.
You did pass through the airport this morning:
<https://www.strava.com/activities/16888585099>
However, if Moraga means you went you rode from your house to Moraga
Drive, that's 0.2 miles away:
<https://maps.app.goo.gl/U5a5H8Thvr8sFBJM7>
According to
https://www.worldweatheronline.com/v2/historical-weather.aspx?q=94570&tp=3, >> the last time the weather in Moraga went below freezing was 2016, at 31F.
Thanks. However, that is the town of Moraga CA, which is 15 miles
away from Moraga Drive (near Tom's house). <https://maps.app.goo.gl/LyYGTf4on1C6L3a97>
Tom's ride, on the morning of Jan 2, 2026, does not go anywhere near
the town of Moraga, but does go past Moraga Drive: <https://www.strava.com/activities/16888585099>
On 1/3/2026 12:31 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Sat, 3 Jan 2026 08:49:01 -0500, zen cycle
<funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 1/2/2026 7:09 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:Thanks. However, that is the town of Moraga CA, which is 15 miles
On Fri, 02 Jan 2026 22:58:28 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Fri Jan 2 14:09:33 2026 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Fri, 02 Jan 2026 21:24:32 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
We had some sub-freezing temperatures in the morning
No, you didn't. The lowest temperature recorded at nearby KOAK
airport was 38F on Dec 28:
<https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=KOAK&hours=96&units=english&chart=on&headers=on&obs=tabular&hourly=true>
On Jan 2 (today) it hasn't dropped below 55F.
Why are you posting? I was posting about three years ago in the Oakland hills and you're showing temperatures at Oakland Airport which is situated directly on and moderated by the bay? Why do you continuously post about things you know nothing about?
Because the distance between your house in San Leandro and Oakland
International Airport is only about 4 miles apart:
<https://maps.app.goo.gl/nKLRRAf2bygabjZW8>
That's sufficiently close to the same temperature. There might be a
few degrees difference but not:
55F - 32F = 23F
difference in temperature.
You were NOT posting about something from 3 years ago. You wrote:
"We had some sub-freezing temperatures in the morning and we did a
ride out to Moraga and back. It was almost niin and well above
freezinf when I returned to Redwood Rd."
I read the above as the morning of Jan 2, 2026(today), at your house.
You did pass through the airport this morning:
<https://www.strava.com/activities/16888585099>
However, if Moraga means you went you rode from your house to Moraga
Drive, that's 0.2 miles away:
<https://maps.app.goo.gl/U5a5H8Thvr8sFBJM7>
According to
https://www.worldweatheronline.com/v2/historical-weather.aspx?q=94570&tp=3, >>> the last time the weather in Moraga went below freezing was 2016, at 31F. >>
away from Moraga Drive (near Tom's house).
<https://maps.app.goo.gl/LyYGTf4on1C6L3a97>
Tom's ride, on the morning of Jan 2, 2026, does not go anywhere near
the town of Moraga, but does go past Moraga Drive:
<https://www.strava.com/activities/16888585099>
I was commenting on his claim that it was three years ago in the
"oakland hills" and he "rode out to Moraga and back" - Im not sure since
I don't live there but I would guess that the town of Moraga would
qualify as the "oakland hills".
On Fri, 02 Jan 2026 22:58:28 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Fri Jan 2 14:09:33 2026 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Fri, 02 Jan 2026 21:24:32 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
We had some sub-freezing temperatures in the morning
No, you didn't. The lowest temperature recorded at nearby KOAK
airport was 38F on Dec 28:
<https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=KOAK&hours=96&units=english&chart=on&headers=on&obs=tabular&hourly=true>
On Jan 2 (today) it hasn't dropped below 55F.
Why are you posting? I was posting about three years ago in the Oakland
hills and you're showing temperatures at Oakland Airport which is
situated directly on and moderated by the bay? Why do you continuously
post about things you know nothing about?
Because the distance between your house in San Leandro and Oakland International Airport is only about 4 miles apart: <https://maps.app.goo.gl/nKLRRAf2bygabjZW8>
That's sufficiently close to the same temperature. There might be a
few degrees difference but not:
55F - 32F = 23F
difference in temperature.
You were NOT posting about something from 3 years ago. You wrote:
"We had some sub-freezing temperatures in the morning and we did a
ride out to Moraga and back. It was almost niin and well above
freezinf when I returned to Redwood Rd."
I read the above as the morning of Jan 2, 2026(today), at your house.
You did pass through the airport this morning: <https://www.strava.com/activities/16888585099>
However, if Moraga means you went you rode from your house to Moraga
Drive, that's 0.2 miles away:
<https://maps.app.goo.gl/U5a5H8Thvr8sFBJM7>
Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote:
On Fri, 02 Jan 2026 22:58:28 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Fri Jan 2 14:09:33 2026 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Fri, 02 Jan 2026 21:24:32 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
We had some sub-freezing temperatures in the morning
No, you didn't. The lowest temperature recorded at nearby KOAK
airport was 38F on Dec 28:
<https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=KOAK&hours=96&units=english&chart=on&headers=on&obs=tabular&hourly=true>
On Jan 2 (today) it hasn't dropped below 55F.
Why are you posting? I was posting about three years ago in the Oakland
hills and you're showing temperatures at Oakland Airport which is
situated directly on and moderated by the bay? Why do you continuously
post about things you know nothing about?
Because the distance between your house in San Leandro and Oakland
International Airport is only about 4 miles apart:
<https://maps.app.goo.gl/nKLRRAf2bygabjZW8>
That's sufficiently close to the same temperature. There might be a
few degrees difference but not:
55F - 32F = 23F
difference in temperature.
You were NOT posting about something from 3 years ago. You wrote:
"We had some sub-freezing temperatures in the morning and we did a
ride out to Moraga and back. It was almost niin and well above
freezinf when I returned to Redwood Rd."
I read the above as the morning of Jan 2, 2026(today), at your house.
You did pass through the airport this morning:
<https://www.strava.com/activities/16888585099>
However, if Moraga means you went you rode from your house to Moraga
Drive, that's 0.2 miles away:
<https://maps.app.goo.gl/U5a5H8Thvr8sFBJM7>
He doesnAt seemed to have ridden this year, not that it makes much >difference, not sure why heAs attempting to make such an argument that >Oakland is likely to get to freezing temperatures.
Rather warmer than AndrewAs ride, had a ride in the ice and some snow >yesterday as while London snow settling is infrequent, and setting even--
less so, last time was 2017/2018 ish itAs more common in the Surrey Hills,
40 miles to the cafe was -1 after was 1 degree Centigrade, though felt
colder as more exposed to the wind.
Even so not talking deep snow but just above a dusting, and compacted >snow/ice in areas off road was fine, few roads we took it careful but very >pretty and as the mud was frozen much easier to ride and clean the bikes
than a week or so before!
Roger Merriman
What does this have to do with what I posted? Do you just want to make noise? How far did you ride last year? It's OK if you post it in inches.According to >https://www.worldweatheronline.com/v2/historical-weather.aspx?q=3d94570&tp=3d3,
the last time the weather in Moraga went below freezing was 2016, at 31F.
Thanks. However, that is the town of Moraga CA, which is 15 miles
away from Moraga Drive (near Tom's house). <https://maps.app.goo.gl/LyYGTf4on1C6L3a97>
Tom's ride, on the morning of Jan 2, 2026, does not go anywhere near
the town of Moraga, but does go past Moraga Drive: <https://www.strava.com/activities/16888585099>
On Sat Jan 3 09:31:08 2026 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
According toThanks. However, that is the town of Moraga CA, which is 15 miles
https://www.worldweatheronline.com/v2/historical-weather.aspx?q=94570&tp=3,
the last time the weather in Moraga went below freezing was 2016, at 31F. >>
away from Moraga Drive (near Tom's house).
<https://maps.app.goo.gl/LyYGTf4on1C6L3a97>
Tom's ride, on the morning of Jan 2, 2026, does not go anywhere near
the town of Moraga, but does go past Moraga Drive:
<https://www.strava.com/activities/16888585099>
What does this have to do with what I posted? Do you just want to make noise? How far did you ride last year? It's OK if you post it in inches.
Tom added the "three years ago" part to give some credibility to hisTell us Liebermann, How do you get to Moraga on a bicycle without going through the Oakland hills? You really are disgusting. You've spent yopur entire life being a nobody and you want to convince people on this group that you're a somebody because you can look up things on Google. Avoiding the draft was popular when you were in college age so you trioed to be a somebody by draft evasion. No one gave a shit about you then either.
claims. The "three years ago" did not appear in Tom's original
posting.
"We had some sub-freezing temperatures in the morning and we did a
ride out to Moraga and back. It was almost niin and well above
freezinf when I returned to Redwood Rd. As I turned onto the perfectly
normal lookintg pavement I slid all the way across the road and caught traction of the far edge of a pretty wide lane. The road was in shadow
at this point but that was the only time I was caught so off-guard."
Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote:
On Fri, 02 Jan 2026 22:58:28 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Fri Jan 2 14:09:33 2026 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Fri, 02 Jan 2026 21:24:32 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
We had some sub-freezing temperatures in the morning
No, you didn't. The lowest temperature recorded at nearby KOAK
airport was 38F on Dec 28:
<https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=3dKOAK&hours=3d96&units=3denglish&chart=3don&headers=3don&obs=3dtabular&hourly=3dtrue>
On Jan 2 (today) it hasn't dropped below 55F.
Why are you posting? I was posting about three years ago in the Oakland
hills and you're showing temperatures at Oakland Airport which is
situated directly on and moderated by the bay? Why do you continuously
post about things you know nothing about?
Because the distance between your house in San Leandro and Oakland International Airport is only about 4 miles apart: <https://maps.app.goo.gl/nKLRRAf2bygabjZW8>
That's sufficiently close to the same temperature. There might be a
few degrees difference but not:
55F - 32F =3d 23F
difference in temperature.
You were NOT posting about something from 3 years ago. You wrote:
"We had some sub-freezing temperatures in the morning and we did a
ride out to Moraga and back. It was almost niin and well above
freezinf when I returned to Redwood Rd."
I read the above as the morning of Jan 2, 2026(today), at your house.
You did pass through the airport this morning: <https://www.strava.com/activities/16888585099>
However, if Moraga means you went you rode from your house to Moraga
Drive, that's 0.2 miles away:
<https://maps.app.goo.gl/U5a5H8Thvr8sFBJM7>
He doesn?t seemed to have ridden this year, not that it makes much difference, not sure why he?s attempting to make such an argument that Oakland is likely to get to freezing temperatures.Liebermann wants to imply that the temperature at OAK which is right on the bay is the temperature EVERYWHERE in the bay area. Remember I warned everyone that Covid-19 (which was nothing more than an influenza that most people didn't even know they were infected with) and that mRNA vaccines were EXTREMELY dangeous.
Rather warmer than Andrew?s ride, had a ride in the ice and some snow yesterday as while London snow settling is infrequent, and setting even
less so, last time was 2017/2018 ish it?s more common in the Surrey Hills,
40 miles to the cafe was -1 after was 1 degree Centigrade, though felt
colder as more exposed to the wind.
Even so not talking deep snow but just above a dusting, and compacted snow/ice in areas off road was fine, few roads we took it careful but very pretty and as the mud was frozen much easier to ride and clean the bikes
than a week or so before!
That's true if what you mean by "this year" is 2026. Today is only
four days into 2026 and it's raining. I wouldn't expect much riding
in the rain.
Tom's Strava account at:
<https://www.strava.com/athletes/27432450>
shows his most recent ride on Dec 30, 2025. He seems to ride
following a regular schedule of riding Tues, Thurs, Sat and Sun.
Looking back in Tom's Strava history, there are rides dating back to
June 10, 2024. To obtain ride frequency by the day, I would need to
extract it from the dates on the maps, which is too much work.
On Sun Jan 4 14:53:39 2026 Roger Merriman wrote:
Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote:
On Fri, 02 Jan 2026 22:58:28 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>He doesn?t seemed to have ridden this year, not that it makes much
wrote:
On Fri Jan 2 14:09:33 2026 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Fri, 02 Jan 2026 21:24:32 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
We had some sub-freezing temperatures in the morning
No, you didn't. The lowest temperature recorded at nearby KOAK
airport was 38F on Dec 28:
<https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=KOAK&hours=96&units=english&chart=on&headers=on&obs=tabular&hourly=true>
On Jan 2 (today) it hasn't dropped below 55F.
Why are you posting? I was posting about three years ago in the Oakland >> >> hills and you're showing temperatures at Oakland Airport which is
situated directly on and moderated by the bay? Why do you continuously
post about things you know nothing about?
Because the distance between your house in San Leandro and Oakland
International Airport is only about 4 miles apart:
<https://maps.app.goo.gl/nKLRRAf2bygabjZW8>
That's sufficiently close to the same temperature. There might be a
few degrees difference but not:
55F - 32F = 23F
difference in temperature.
You were NOT posting about something from 3 years ago. You wrote:
"We had some sub-freezing temperatures in the morning and we did a
ride out to Moraga and back. It was almost niin and well above
freezinf when I returned to Redwood Rd."
I read the above as the morning of Jan 2, 2026(today), at your house.
You did pass through the airport this morning:
<https://www.strava.com/activities/16888585099>
However, if Moraga means you went you rode from your house to Moraga
Drive, that's 0.2 miles away:
<https://maps.app.goo.gl/U5a5H8Thvr8sFBJM7>
difference, not sure why he?s attempting to make such an argument that
Oakland is likely to get to freezing temperatures.
Rather warmer than Andrew?s ride, had a ride in the ice and some snow
yesterday as while London snow settling is infrequent, and setting even
less so, last time was 2017/2018 ish it?s more common in the Surrey Hills, >> 40 miles to the cafe was -1 after was 1 degree Centigrade, though felt
colder as more exposed to the wind.
Even so not talking deep snow but just above a dusting, and compacted
snow/ice in areas off road was fine, few roads we took it careful but very >> pretty and as the mud was frozen much easier to ride and clean the bikes
than a week or so before!
Liebermann wants to imply that the temperature at OAK which is right on the bay is the temperature EVERYWHERE in the bay area. Remember I warned everyone that Covid-19 (which was nothing more than an influenza that most people didn't even know they were infected with) and that mRNA vaccines were EXTREMELY dangeous.
Liebermann who is a nut case "fact checked" me telling everyone that I didn't know what I was talking about. The Japanese Study composed of almost the entire population of Japan showed that ONLY people who took the mRNA vaccinbe were the cohort who died, So anyone who listened to him have infected themselves with what is itself a deadly virus. You CANNOT undo this. You are in danger from side effect the rest of your life.
I worked in medical instruments around hospitals my entire life and my warnings were on firm ground. Listening to Liebermann and taking that mRNA poison can kill you at any moment. But Liebermann HAD to pretend that he is the smartest man in the world and NO ONE knows anything better than him. The Doctor who invented mRNA said that it is a danger that cannot be made safe in any way. But Liebermann knew much better than he.--
What the world needs is more people like Liebermann to reduce the crowding.
On Sat Jan 3 13:28:13 2026 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
Tom added the "three years ago" part to give some credibility to his
claims. The "three years ago" did not appear in Tom's original
posting.
"We had some sub-freezing temperatures in the morning and we did a
ride out to Moraga and back. It was almost niin and well above
freezinf when I returned to Redwood Rd. As I turned onto the perfectly
normal lookintg pavement I slid all the way across the road and caught
traction of the far edge of a pretty wide lane. The road was in shadow
at this point but that was the only time I was caught so off-guard."
Tell us Liebermann, How do you get to Moraga on a bicycle without going through the Oakland hills?
Only you could talk about Moraga street in San Leandro when NO ONE mentioned that.
Freezing temperatures occur OFTEN in the Oakland hills in shaded areas that never see the sun for most of winter.
But what are you saying?
That it didn't reach freezing temperatures in Moraga Street in San Leandro. What about Moraga Street in Charlotte, VA? You want to invent conversations that never occurred? Then I can too.
One of these days you're going to die and no one is going to miss you. And when you meet your maker, see if you can bullshit your way past him?
On Sun Jan 4 12:28:56 2026 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
Liebermann, when are you going to stop pretending you know something?
That's true if what you mean by "this year" is 2026. Today is only
four days into 2026 and it's raining. I wouldn't expect much riding
in the rain.
Tom's Strava account at:
<https://www.strava.com/athletes/27432450>
shows his most recent ride on Dec 30, 2025. He seems to ride
following a regular schedule of riding Tues, Thurs, Sat and Sun.
Looking back in Tom's Strava history, there are rides dating back to
June 10, 2024. To obtain ride frequency by the day, I would need to
extract it from the dates on the maps, which is too much work.
On Sun, 11 Jan 2026 00:30:46 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Sun Jan 4 14:53:39 2026 Roger Merriman wrote:
Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote:
On Fri, 02 Jan 2026 22:58:28 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>He doesn?t seemed to have ridden this year, not that it makes much
wrote:
On Fri Jan 2 14:09:33 2026 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Fri, 02 Jan 2026 21:24:32 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
We had some sub-freezing temperatures in the morning
No, you didn't. The lowest temperature recorded at nearby KOAK
airport was 38F on Dec 28:
<https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=KOAK&hours=96&units=english&chart=on&headers=on&obs=tabular&hourly=true>
On Jan 2 (today) it hasn't dropped below 55F.
Why are you posting? I was posting about three years ago in the Oakland >>>>> hills and you're showing temperatures at Oakland Airport which is
situated directly on and moderated by the bay? Why do you continuously >>>>> post about things you know nothing about?
Because the distance between your house in San Leandro and Oakland
International Airport is only about 4 miles apart:
<https://maps.app.goo.gl/nKLRRAf2bygabjZW8>
That's sufficiently close to the same temperature. There might be a
few degrees difference but not:
55F - 32F = 23F
difference in temperature.
You were NOT posting about something from 3 years ago. You wrote:
"We had some sub-freezing temperatures in the morning and we did a
ride out to Moraga and back. It was almost niin and well above
freezinf when I returned to Redwood Rd."
I read the above as the morning of Jan 2, 2026(today), at your house.
You did pass through the airport this morning:
<https://www.strava.com/activities/16888585099>
However, if Moraga means you went you rode from your house to Moraga
Drive, that's 0.2 miles away:
<https://maps.app.goo.gl/U5a5H8Thvr8sFBJM7>
difference, not sure why he?s attempting to make such an argument that
Oakland is likely to get to freezing temperatures.
Rather warmer than Andrew?s ride, had a ride in the ice and some snow
yesterday as while London snow settling is infrequent, and setting even
less so, last time was 2017/2018 ish it?s more common in the Surrey Hills, >>> 40 miles to the cafe was -1 after was 1 degree Centigrade, though felt
colder as more exposed to the wind.
Even so not talking deep snow but just above a dusting, and compacted
snow/ice in areas off road was fine, few roads we took it careful but very >>> pretty and as the mud was frozen much easier to ride and clean the bikes >>> than a week or so before!
Liebermann wants to imply that the temperature at OAK which is right on the bay is the temperature EVERYWHERE in the bay area. Remember I warned everyone that Covid-19 (which was nothing more than an influenza that most people didn't even know they were infected with) and that mRNA vaccines were EXTREMELY dangeous.
Liebermann who is a nut case "fact checked" me telling everyone that I didn't know what I was talking about.
The Japanese Study composed of almost the entire population of Japan showed that ONLY people who took the mRNA vaccinbe were the cohort who died,
So anyone who listened to him have infected themselves with what is itself a deadly virus. You CANNOT undo this. You are in danger from side effect the rest of your life.
https://publichealthcollaborative.org/alerts/hoax-news-site-claims-japan-is-investigating-millions-of-covid-19-vaccine-deaths/
A website that publishes hoax news stories claimed that the government
of Japan is investigating millions of deaths supposedly caused by
COVID-19 vaccines. The post has been widely shared, including by
several high-profile anti-vaccine figures...... there is no evidence
of any investigation into COVID-19 vaccines by the Japanese government
....
I worked in medical instruments around hospitals my entire life and my warnings were on firm ground.
Listening to Liebermann and taking that mRNA poison can kill you at any moment.
But Liebermann HAD to pretend that he is the smartest man in the world and NO ONE knows anything better than him.
The Doctor who invented mRNA said that it is a danger that cannot be made safe in any way. But Liebermann knew much better than he.
What the world needs is more people like Liebermann to reduce the crowding.
--
cheers,
John B.
On Sun Jan 4 14:53:39 2026 Roger Merriman wrote:
Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote:
On Fri, 02 Jan 2026 22:58:28 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>He doesn?t seemed to have ridden this year, not that it makes much
wrote:
On Fri Jan 2 14:09:33 2026 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Fri, 02 Jan 2026 21:24:32 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
We had some sub-freezing temperatures in the morning
No, you didn't. The lowest temperature recorded at nearby KOAK
airport was 38F on Dec 28:
<https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=KOAK&hours=96&units=english&chart=on&headers=on&obs=tabular&hourly=true>
On Jan 2 (today) it hasn't dropped below 55F.
Why are you posting? I was posting about three years ago in the Oakland >>>> hills and you're showing temperatures at Oakland Airport which is
situated directly on and moderated by the bay? Why do you continuously >>>> post about things you know nothing about?
Because the distance between your house in San Leandro and Oakland
International Airport is only about 4 miles apart:
<https://maps.app.goo.gl/nKLRRAf2bygabjZW8>
That's sufficiently close to the same temperature. There might be a
few degrees difference but not:
55F - 32F = 23F
difference in temperature.
You were NOT posting about something from 3 years ago. You wrote:
"We had some sub-freezing temperatures in the morning and we did a
ride out to Moraga and back. It was almost niin and well above
freezinf when I returned to Redwood Rd."
I read the above as the morning of Jan 2, 2026(today), at your house.
You did pass through the airport this morning:
<https://www.strava.com/activities/16888585099>
However, if Moraga means you went you rode from your house to Moraga
Drive, that's 0.2 miles away:
<https://maps.app.goo.gl/U5a5H8Thvr8sFBJM7>
difference, not sure why he?s attempting to make such an argument that
Oakland is likely to get to freezing temperatures.
Rather warmer than Andrew?s ride, had a ride in the ice and some snow
yesterday as while London snow settling is infrequent, and setting even
less so, last time was 2017/2018 ish it?s more common in the Surrey Hills, >> 40 miles to the cafe was -1 after was 1 degree Centigrade, though felt
colder as more exposed to the wind.
Even so not talking deep snow but just above a dusting, and compacted
snow/ice in areas off road was fine, few roads we took it careful but very >> pretty and as the mud was frozen much easier to ride and clean the bikes
than a week or so before!
Liebermann wants to imply that the temperature at OAK which is right on
the bay is the temperature EVERYWHERE in the Bay Area
On 1/10/2026 8:24 PM, John B. wrote:
On Sun, 11 Jan 2026 00:30:46 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
The Japanese Study composed of almost the entire population of Japan showed that ONLY people who took the mRNA vaccinbe were the cohort who died,
There was no Japanese study that did any such thing.
I worked in medical instruments around hospitals my entire life and my warnings were on firm ground.
No, you didn't. You worked a couple of companies that developed medical >electronics for part of your career, and never set foot in a hospital in
any professional capacity. You have absolutely no training or experience >with vaccines or medicine that would make you anything more than an
angry talk-show caller.
Listening to Liebermann and taking that mRNA poison can kill you at any moment.
I've taken two doses and am still kicking. So are my wife, my kids, >grandkids, cousins, uncles, aunts, best friends co-workers....in fact, I >don't know anyone in my personal sphere who has died from vaccine side >effects.
But Liebermann HAD to pretend that he is the smartest man in the world and NO ONE knows anything better than him.
He doesn't pretend he's the smartest, and has frequently acknowledged
his mistakes.
The Doctor who invented mRNA said that it is a danger that cannot be made safe in any way. But Liebermann knew much better than he.
Lieberman shows he is just another conspiracy theorist spreading >misinformation
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