I read all the news about Beloved Leader all but invading Venezuela
and claiming that the U.S. needs Greenland and assumed that was just
Wonder Boy showing off.
Then I did a little research and it seems that Venezuela has the
world's highest proven crude oil reserves, almost surpassing those of
Saudi Arabia and US combined and that Greenland is widely believed to
hold excellent potentials for a host of natural resources, including
zinc, lead, gold, iron ore, heavy and light rare earth elements,
copper as well as crude oil.
It might make one wonder whether drugs really is the problem.
--
On 12/29/2025 11:11 PM, John B. wrote:
I read all the news about Beloved Leader all but invading Venezuela
and claiming that the U.S. needs Greenland and assumed that was just
Wonder Boy showing off.
Then I did a little research and it seems that Venezuela has the
world's highest proven crude oil reserves, almost surpassing those of
Saudi Arabia and US combined and that Greenland is widely believed to
hold excellent potentials for a host of natural resources, including
zinc, lead, gold, iron ore, heavy and light rare earth elements,
copper as well as crude oil.
It might make one wonder whether drugs really is the problem.
--
There is no cause to wonder. Drugs are not the issue.
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 05:10:46 -0500, zen cycle
<funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 12/29/2025 11:11 PM, John B. wrote:
I read all the news about Beloved Leader all but invading Venezuela
and claiming that the U.S. needs Greenland and assumed that was just
Wonder Boy showing off.
Then I did a little research and it seems that Venezuela has the
world's highest proven crude oil reserves, almost surpassing those of
Saudi Arabia and US combined and that Greenland is widely believed to
hold excellent potentials for a host of natural resources, including
zinc, lead, gold, iron ore, heavy and light rare earth elements,
copper as well as crude oil.
It might make one wonder whether drugs really is the problem.
--
There is no cause to wonder. Drugs are not the issue.
Goodness Gracious Sakes Alive! Can it be? Fearless Leader is not
telling us the truth?
Or to put it another way. You elected him and now you have live with
him.
--
On 12/30/2025 6:18 AM, John B. wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 05:10:46 -0500, zen cycle
<funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 12/29/2025 11:11 PM, John B. wrote:
I read all the news about Beloved Leader all but invading Venezuela
and claiming that the U.S. needs Greenland and assumed that was just
Wonder Boy showing off.
Then I did a little research and it seems that Venezuela has the
world's highest proven crude oil reserves, almost surpassing those of
Saudi Arabia and US combined and that Greenland is widely believed to >>>> hold excellent potentials for a host of natural resources, including
zinc, lead, gold, iron ore, heavy and light rare earth elements,
copper as well as crude oil.
It might make one wonder whether drugs really is the problem.
--
There is no cause to wonder. Drugs are not the issue.
Goodness Gracious Sakes Alive! Can it be? Fearless Leader is not
telling us the truth?
Or to put it another way. You elected him and now you have live with
him.
--
I didn't vote for him.
I read all the news about Beloved Leader all but invading Venezuela
and claiming that the U.S. needs Greenland and assumed that was just
Wonder Boy showing off.
Then I did a little research and it seems that Venezuela has the
world's highest proven crude oil reserves, almost surpassing those of
Saudi Arabia and US combined and that Greenland is widely believed to
hold excellent potentials for a host of natural resources, including
zinc, lead, gold, iron ore, heavy and light rare earth elements,
copper as well as crude oil.
It might make one wonder whether drugs really is the problem.
--
cheers,
John B.
On 12/29/2025 11:11 PM, John B. wrote:
I read all the news about Beloved Leader all but invading
Venezuela
and claiming that the U.S. needs Greenland and assumed
that was just
Wonder Boy showing off.
Then I did a little research and it seems that-a Venezuela
has the
world's highest proven crude oil reserves, almost
surpassing those of
Saudi Arabia and US combined and that Greenland is-a widely
believed to
hold excellent potentials for a host of natural resources,
including
zinc, lead, gold, iron ore, heavy and light rare earth
elements,
copper as well as crude oil.
It might make one wonder whether drugs really is the problem.
--
There is no cause to wonder. Drugs are not the issue.
On 12/29/2025 11:11 PM, John B. wrote:
I read all the news about Beloved Leader all but invading
Venezuela
and claiming that the U.S. needs Greenland and assumed
that was just
Wonder Boy showing off.
Then I did a little research and it seems that-a Venezuela
has the
world's highest proven crude oil reserves, almost
surpassing those of
Saudi Arabia and US combined and that Greenland is-a widely
believed to
hold excellent potentials for a host of natural resources,
including
zinc, lead, gold, iron ore, heavy and light rare earth
elements,
copper as well as crude oil.
It might make one wonder whether drugs really is the problem.
--
There is no cause to wonder. Drugs are not the issue.
On 12/29/2025 10:11 PM, John B. wrote:
I read all the news about Beloved Leader all but invading Venezuela
and claiming that the U.S. needs Greenland and assumed that was just
Wonder Boy showing off.
Then I did a little research and it seems that Venezuela has the
world's highest proven crude oil reserves, almost surpassing those of
Saudi Arabia and US combined and that Greenland is widely believed to
hold excellent potentials for a host of natural resources, including
zinc, lead, gold, iron ore, heavy and light rare earth elements,
copper as well as crude oil.
It might make one wonder whether drugs really is the problem.
--
cheers,
John B.
I was OK with enforcing sanctions of long (2005) standing of
oil transport in open waters but the drone bombing of docks
is an act of war, which seems to me a step too far. We'll
see...
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 07:45:11 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 12/29/2025 10:11 PM, John B. wrote:
I read all the news about Beloved Leader all but invading Venezuela
and claiming that the U.S. needs Greenland and assumed that was just
Wonder Boy showing off.
Then I did a little research and it seems that Venezuela has the
world's highest proven crude oil reserves, almost surpassing those of
Saudi Arabia and US combined and that Greenland is widely believed to
hold excellent potentials for a host of natural resources, including
zinc, lead, gold, iron ore, heavy and light rare earth elements,
copper as well as crude oil.
It might make one wonder whether drugs really is the problem.
--
cheers,
John B.
I was OK with enforcing sanctions of long (2005) standing of
oil transport in open waters but the drone bombing of docks
is an act of war, which seems to me a step too far. We'll
see...
Nothing new here....
Obama launched airstrikes or military raids in at least seven
countries: Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Yemen, Somalia and
Pakistan.
--
C'est bon
Soloman
On 12/30/2025 4:10 AM, zen cycle wrote:
On 12/29/2025 11:11 PM, John B. wrote:
I read all the news about Beloved Leader all but invading
Venezuela
and claiming that the U.S. needs Greenland and assumed
that was just
Wonder Boy showing off.
Then I did a little research and it seems thata Venezuela
has the
world's highest proven crude oil reserves, almost
surpassing those of
Saudi Arabia and US combined and that Greenland isa widely
believed to
hold excellent potentials for a host of natural resources,
including
zinc, lead, gold, iron ore, heavy and light rare earth
elements,
copper as well as crude oil.
It might make one wonder whether drugs really is the problem.
--
There is no cause to wonder. Drugs are not the issue.
p.s. As I have mentioned here previously, from my direct
experience, every international flight at every airport all
day long every day carries contraband. The drug networks are
heavily invested in personnel among ground crews at both
ends and blowing up cigarette boing ts will not touch the big
end of the problem.
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 07:50:51 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 12/30/2025 4:10 AM, zen cycle wrote:
On 12/29/2025 11:11 PM, John B. wrote:
I read all the news about Beloved Leader all but invading
Venezuela
and claiming that the U.S. needs Greenland and assumed
that was just
Wonder Boy showing off.
Then I did a little research and it seems that-a Venezuela
has the
world's highest proven crude oil reserves, almost
surpassing those of
Saudi Arabia and US combined and that Greenland is-a widely
believed to
hold excellent potentials for a host of natural resources,
including
zinc, lead, gold, iron ore, heavy and light rare earth
elements,
copper as well as crude oil.
It might make one wonder whether drugs really is the problem.
--
There is no cause to wonder. Drugs are not the issue.
p.s. As I have mentioned here previously, from my direct
experience, every international flight at every airport all
day long every day carries contraband. The drug networks are
heavily invested in personnel among ground crews at both
ends and blowing up cigarette boing ts will not touch the big
end of the problem.
One solution is to ignore the blokes selling it and go after the guys
buying it.
--
cheers,
John B.
On 12/30/2025 8:17 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 07:45:11 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 12/29/2025 10:11 PM, John B. wrote:
I read all the news about Beloved Leader all but invading Venezuela
and claiming that the U.S. needs Greenland and assumed that was just
Wonder Boy showing off.
Then I did a little research and it seems that-a Venezuela has the
world's highest proven crude oil reserves, almost surpassing those of
Saudi Arabia and US combined and that Greenland is-a widely believed to >>>> hold excellent potentials for a host of natural resources, including
zinc, lead, gold, iron ore, heavy and light rare earth elements,
copper as well as crude oil.
It might make one wonder whether drugs really is the problem.
--
cheers,
John B.
I was OK with enforcing sanctions of long (2005) standing of
oil transport in open waters but the drone bombing of docks
is an act of war, which seems to me a step too far.-a We'll
see...
Nothing new here....
Obama launched airstrikes or military raids in at least seven
countries: Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Yemen, Somalia and
Pakistan.
--
C'est bon
Soloman
So did Mr Clinton. The rules are different for the democrat party.
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 07:50:51 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 12/30/2025 4:10 AM, zen cycle wrote:
On 12/29/2025 11:11 PM, John B. wrote:
I read all the news about Beloved Leader all but invading
Venezuela
and claiming that the U.S. needs Greenland and assumed
that was just
Wonder Boy showing off.
Then I did a little research and it seems thata Venezuela
has the
world's highest proven crude oil reserves, almost
surpassing those of
Saudi Arabia and US combined and that Greenland isa widely
believed to
hold excellent potentials for a host of natural resources,
including
zinc, lead, gold, iron ore, heavy and light rare earth
elements,
copper as well as crude oil.
It might make one wonder whether drugs really is the problem.
--
There is no cause to wonder. Drugs are not the issue.
p.s. As I have mentioned here previously, from my direct
experience, every international flight at every airport all
day long every day carries contraband. The drug networks are
heavily invested in personnel among ground crews at both
ends and blowing up cigarette boing ts will not touch the big
end of the problem.
One solution is to ignore the blokes selling it and go after the guys
buying it.
On 12/30/2025 9:04 AM, John B. wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 07:50:51 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 12/30/2025 4:10 AM, zen cycle wrote:
On 12/29/2025 11:11 PM, John B. wrote:
I read all the news about Beloved Leader all but invading
Venezuela
and claiming that the U.S. needs Greenland and assumed
that was just
Wonder Boy showing off.
Then I did a little research and it seems thata Venezuela
has the
world's highest proven crude oil reserves, almost
surpassing those of
Saudi Arabia and US combined and that Greenland isa widely
believed to
hold excellent potentials for a host of natural resources,
including
zinc, lead, gold, iron ore, heavy and light rare earth
elements,
copper as well as crude oil.
It might make one wonder whether drugs really is the problem.
--
There is no cause to wonder. Drugs are not the issue.
p.s. As I have mentioned here previously, from my direct
experience, every international flight at every airport all
day long every day carries contraband. The drug networks are
heavily invested in personnel among ground crews at both
ends and blowing up cigarette boing ts will not touch the big
end of the problem.
One solution is to ignore the blokes selling it and go after the guys
buying it.
--
cheers,
John B.
Good luck with that. We don't jail muggers, slashers or
thieves so why the dope addicts?
On 12/30/2025 9:04 AM, John B. wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 07:50:51 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 12/30/2025 4:10 AM, zen cycle wrote:
On 12/29/2025 11:11 PM, John B. wrote:
I read all the news about Beloved Leader all but invading
Venezuela
and claiming that the U.S. needs Greenland and assumed
that was just
Wonder Boy showing off.
Then I did a little research and it seems thata Venezuela
has the
world's highest proven crude oil reserves, almost
surpassing those of
Saudi Arabia and US combined and that Greenland isa widely
believed to
hold excellent potentials for a host of natural resources,
including
zinc, lead, gold, iron ore, heavy and light rare earth
elements,
copper as well as crude oil.
It might make one wonder whether drugs really is the problem.
--
There is no cause to wonder. Drugs are not the issue.
p.s. As I have mentioned here previously, from my direct
experience, every international flight at every airport all
day long every day carries contraband. The drug networks are
heavily invested in personnel among ground crews at both
ends and blowing up cigarette boing ts will not touch the big
end of the problem.
One solution is to ignore the blokes selling it and go after the guys
buying it.
--
cheers,
John B.
Good luck with that. We don't jail muggers, slashers or
thieves so why the dope addicts?
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 07:04:35 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 07:50:51 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 12/30/2025 4:10 AM, zen cycle wrote:
On 12/29/2025 11:11 PM, John B. wrote:
I read all the news about Beloved Leader all but invading
Venezuela
and claiming that the U.S. needs Greenland and assumed
that was just
Wonder Boy showing off.
Then I did a little research and it seems thata Venezuela
has the
world's highest proven crude oil reserves, almost
surpassing those of
Saudi Arabia and US combined and that Greenland isa widely
believed to
hold excellent potentials for a host of natural resources,
including
zinc, lead, gold, iron ore, heavy and light rare earth
elements,
copper as well as crude oil.
It might make one wonder whether drugs really is the problem.
--
There is no cause to wonder. Drugs are not the issue.
p.s. As I have mentioned here previously, from my direct
experience, every international flight at every airport all
day long every day carries contraband. The drug networks are
heavily invested in personnel among ground crews at both
ends and blowing up cigarette boing ts will not touch the big
end of the problem.
One solution is to ignore the blokes selling it and go after the guys >>buying it.
The users are just stupid. The traffickers are bad, but a dead
trafficker is a good trafficker.
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 07:45:11 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 12/29/2025 10:11 PM, John B. wrote:
I read all the news about Beloved Leader all but invading Venezuela
and claiming that the U.S. needs Greenland and assumed that was just
Wonder Boy showing off.
Then I did a little research and it seems that Venezuela has the
world's highest proven crude oil reserves, almost surpassing those of
Saudi Arabia and US combined and that Greenland is widely believed to
hold excellent potentials for a host of natural resources, including
zinc, lead, gold, iron ore, heavy and light rare earth elements,
copper as well as crude oil.
It might make one wonder whether drugs really is the problem.
--
cheers,
John B.
I was OK with enforcing sanctions of long (2005) standing of
oil transport in open waters but the drone bombing of docks
is an act of war, which seems to me a step too far. We'll
see...
Nothing new here....
Obama launched airstrikes or military raids in at least seven
countries: Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Yemen, Somalia and
Pakistan.
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 09:17:16 -0500, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 07:45:11 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 12/29/2025 10:11 PM, John B. wrote:
I read all the news about Beloved Leader all but invading Venezuela
and claiming that the U.S. needs Greenland and assumed that was just
Wonder Boy showing off.
Then I did a little research and it seems that Venezuela has the
world's highest proven crude oil reserves, almost surpassing those of
Saudi Arabia and US combined and that Greenland is widely believed to >>>> hold excellent potentials for a host of natural resources, including
zinc, lead, gold, iron ore, heavy and light rare earth elements,
copper as well as crude oil.
It might make one wonder whether drugs really is the problem.
--
cheers,
John B.
I was OK with enforcing sanctions of long (2005) standing of
oil transport in open waters but the drone bombing of docks
is an act of war, which seems to me a step too far. We'll
see...
Nothing new here....
Obama launched airstrikes or military raids in at least seven
countries: Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Yemen, Somalia and
Pakistan.
And accompliahed?
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 16:51:02 -0500, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 07:04:35 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 07:50:51 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 12/30/2025 4:10 AM, zen cycle wrote:
On 12/29/2025 11:11 PM, John B. wrote:
I read all the news about Beloved Leader all but invading
Venezuela
and claiming that the U.S. needs Greenland and assumed
that was just
Wonder Boy showing off.
Then I did a little research and it seems thata Venezuela
has the
world's highest proven crude oil reserves, almost
surpassing those of
Saudi Arabia and US combined and that Greenland isa widely
believed to
hold excellent potentials for a host of natural resources,
including
zinc, lead, gold, iron ore, heavy and light rare earth
elements,
copper as well as crude oil.
It might make one wonder whether drugs really is the problem.
--
There is no cause to wonder. Drugs are not the issue.
p.s. As I have mentioned here previously, from my direct
experience, every international flight at every airport all
day long every day carries contraband. The drug networks are
heavily invested in personnel among ground crews at both
ends and blowing up cigarette boing ts will not touch the big
end of the problem.
One solution is to ignore the blokes selling it and go after the guys >>>buying it.
The users are just stupid. The traffickers are bad, but a dead
trafficker is a good trafficker.
But we've just had a discussion about how wrong the death penalty is.
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 20:51:02 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 16:51:02 -0500, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 07:04:35 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 07:50:51 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 12/30/2025 4:10 AM, zen cycle wrote:
On 12/29/2025 11:11 PM, John B. wrote:
I read all the news about Beloved Leader all but invading
Venezuela
and claiming that the U.S. needs Greenland and assumed
that was just
Wonder Boy showing off.
Then I did a little research and it seems thata Venezuela
has the
world's highest proven crude oil reserves, almost
surpassing those of
Saudi Arabia and US combined and that Greenland isa widely
believed to
hold excellent potentials for a host of natural resources,
including
zinc, lead, gold, iron ore, heavy and light rare earth
elements,
copper as well as crude oil.
It might make one wonder whether drugs really is the problem.
--
There is no cause to wonder. Drugs are not the issue.
p.s. As I have mentioned here previously, from my direct
experience, every international flight at every airport all
day long every day carries contraband. The drug networks are
heavily invested in personnel among ground crews at both
ends and blowing up cigarette boing ts will not touch the big
end of the problem.
One solution is to ignore the blokes selling it and go after the guys >>>>buying it.
The users are just stupid. The traffickers are bad, but a dead
trafficker is a good trafficker.
But we've just had a discussion about how wrong the death penalty is.
As I see it, killing someone while they are strapped to a table is
different from killing them while they are committing a crime to stop
them from completing the crime.
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 20:51:02 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 16:51:02 -0500, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 07:04:35 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 07:50:51 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 12/30/2025 4:10 AM, zen cycle wrote:
On 12/29/2025 11:11 PM, John B. wrote:
I read all the news about Beloved Leader all but invading
Venezuela
and claiming that the U.S. needs Greenland and assumed
that was just
Wonder Boy showing off.
Then I did a little research and it seems thata Venezuela
has the
world's highest proven crude oil reserves, almost
surpassing those of
Saudi Arabia and US combined and that Greenland isa widely
believed to
hold excellent potentials for a host of natural resources,
including
zinc, lead, gold, iron ore, heavy and light rare earth
elements,
copper as well as crude oil.
It might make one wonder whether drugs really is the problem.
--
There is no cause to wonder. Drugs are not the issue.
p.s. As I have mentioned here previously, from my direct
experience, every international flight at every airport all
day long every day carries contraband. The drug networks are
heavily invested in personnel among ground crews at both
ends and blowing up cigarette boing ts will not touch the big
end of the problem.
One solution is to ignore the blokes selling it and go after the guys >>>>buying it.
The users are just stupid. The traffickers are bad, but a dead
trafficker is a good trafficker.
But we've just had a discussion about how wrong the death penalty is.
As I see it, killing someone while they are strapped to a table is
different from killing them while they are committing a crime to stop
them from completing the crime.
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 02:16:52 -0500, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 20:51:02 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 16:51:02 -0500, Catrike Ryder >>><Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 07:04:35 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 07:50:51 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote: >>>>>
On 12/30/2025 4:10 AM, zen cycle wrote:
On 12/29/2025 11:11 PM, John B. wrote:
I read all the news about Beloved Leader all but invading
Venezuela
and claiming that the U.S. needs Greenland and assumed
that was just
Wonder Boy showing off.
Then I did a little research and it seems thata Venezuela
has the
world's highest proven crude oil reserves, almost
surpassing those of
Saudi Arabia and US combined and that Greenland isa widely
believed to
hold excellent potentials for a host of natural resources,
including
zinc, lead, gold, iron ore, heavy and light rare earth
elements,
copper as well as crude oil.
It might make one wonder whether drugs really is the problem.
--
There is no cause to wonder. Drugs are not the issue.
p.s. As I have mentioned here previously, from my direct >>>>>>experience, every international flight at every airport all
day long every day carries contraband. The drug networks are >>>>>>heavily invested in personnel among ground crews at both
ends and blowing up cigarette boing ts will not touch the big
end of the problem.
One solution is to ignore the blokes selling it and go after the guys >>>>>buying it.
The users are just stupid. The traffickers are bad, but a dead >>>>trafficker is a good trafficker.
But we've just had a discussion about how wrong the death penalty is.
As I see it, killing someone while they are strapped to a table is >>different from killing them while they are committing a crime to stop
them from completing the crime.
If we are talking bout the small boat sinking, alleged to be dope
boats. Has there been any proof that the were actually loaded with
drugs or this just what some said?
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 02:16:52 -0500, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 20:51:02 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 16:51:02 -0500, Catrike Ryder >>><Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 07:04:35 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 07:50:51 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote: >>>>>
On 12/30/2025 4:10 AM, zen cycle wrote:
On 12/29/2025 11:11 PM, John B. wrote:
I read all the news about Beloved Leader all but invading
Venezuela
and claiming that the U.S. needs Greenland and assumed
that was just
Wonder Boy showing off.
Then I did a little research and it seems thata Venezuela
has the
world's highest proven crude oil reserves, almost
surpassing those of
Saudi Arabia and US combined and that Greenland isa widely
believed to
hold excellent potentials for a host of natural resources,
including
zinc, lead, gold, iron ore, heavy and light rare earth
elements,
copper as well as crude oil.
It might make one wonder whether drugs really is the problem.
--
There is no cause to wonder. Drugs are not the issue.
p.s. As I have mentioned here previously, from my direct >>>>>>experience, every international flight at every airport all
day long every day carries contraband. The drug networks are >>>>>>heavily invested in personnel among ground crews at both
ends and blowing up cigarette boing ts will not touch the big
end of the problem.
One solution is to ignore the blokes selling it and go after the guys >>>>>buying it.
The users are just stupid. The traffickers are bad, but a dead >>>>trafficker is a good trafficker.
But we've just had a discussion about how wrong the death penalty is.
As I see it, killing someone while they are strapped to a table is >>different from killing them while they are committing a crime to stop
them from completing the crime.
I like it. Lets be sure all the Police are informed, "don't arrest
them, just shoot them."
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 01:53:08 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 02:16:52 -0500, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 20:51:02 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 16:51:02 -0500, Catrike Ryder >>>><Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 07:04:35 -0800, John B. >>>>><jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 07:50:51 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote: >>>>>>
On 12/30/2025 4:10 AM, zen cycle wrote:
On 12/29/2025 11:11 PM, John B. wrote:
I read all the news about Beloved Leader all but invading
Venezuela
and claiming that the U.S. needs Greenland and assumed
that was just
Wonder Boy showing off.
Then I did a little research and it seems thata Venezuela
has the
world's highest proven crude oil reserves, almost
surpassing those of
Saudi Arabia and US combined and that Greenland isa widely
believed to
hold excellent potentials for a host of natural resources,
including
zinc, lead, gold, iron ore, heavy and light rare earth
elements,
copper as well as crude oil.
It might make one wonder whether drugs really is the problem. >>>>>>>>> --
There is no cause to wonder. Drugs are not the issue.
p.s. As I have mentioned here previously, from my direct >>>>>>>experience, every international flight at every airport all
day long every day carries contraband. The drug networks are >>>>>>>heavily invested in personnel among ground crews at both
ends and blowing up cigarette boing ts will not touch the big >>>>>>>end of the problem.
One solution is to ignore the blokes selling it and go after the guys >>>>>>buying it.
The users are just stupid. The traffickers are bad, but a dead >>>>>trafficker is a good trafficker.
But we've just had a discussion about how wrong the death penalty is.
As I see it, killing someone while they are strapped to a table is >>>different from killing them while they are committing a crime to stop >>>them from completing the crime.
If we are talking bout the small boat sinking, alleged to be dope
boats. Has there been any proof that the were actually loaded with
drugs or this just what some said?
Pictures show them loaded with small packages.
Lack of any kind of fishing equipment.
High speed travel for long distances across open water
What else can it be?
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 05:09:40 -0500, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 01:53:08 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 02:16:52 -0500, Catrike Ryder >>><Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 20:51:02 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 16:51:02 -0500, Catrike Ryder >>>>><Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 07:04:35 -0800, John B. >>>>>><jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 07:50:51 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote: >>>>>>>
On 12/30/2025 4:10 AM, zen cycle wrote:
On 12/29/2025 11:11 PM, John B. wrote:
I read all the news about Beloved Leader all but invading >>>>>>>>>> Venezuela
and claiming that the U.S. needs Greenland and assumed
that was just
Wonder Boy showing off.
Then I did a little research and it seems thata Venezuela >>>>>>>>>> has the
world's highest proven crude oil reserves, almost
surpassing those of
Saudi Arabia and US combined and that Greenland isa widely >>>>>>>>>> believed to
hold excellent potentials for a host of natural resources, >>>>>>>>>> including
zinc, lead, gold, iron ore, heavy and light rare earth
elements,
copper as well as crude oil.
It might make one wonder whether drugs really is the problem. >>>>>>>>>> --
There is no cause to wonder. Drugs are not the issue.
p.s. As I have mentioned here previously, from my direct >>>>>>>>experience, every international flight at every airport all >>>>>>>>day long every day carries contraband. The drug networks are >>>>>>>>heavily invested in personnel among ground crews at both
ends and blowing up cigarette boing ts will not touch the big >>>>>>>>end of the problem.
One solution is to ignore the blokes selling it and go after the guys >>>>>>>buying it.
The users are just stupid. The traffickers are bad, but a dead >>>>>>trafficker is a good trafficker.
But we've just had a discussion about how wrong the death penalty is.
As I see it, killing someone while they are strapped to a table is >>>>different from killing them while they are committing a crime to stop >>>>them from completing the crime.
If we are talking bout the small boat sinking, alleged to be dope
boats. Has there been any proof that the were actually loaded with
drugs or this just what some said?
Pictures show them loaded with small packages.
Lack of any kind of fishing equipment.
High speed travel for long distances across open water
What else can it be?
Get real!
Years ago raising poppies in N.W. Thailand was the maim money crop in
some areas and I can assure they they didn't.transport the product it
in cute little boxes, it was in kilo or multi kilo bags.
As for high speed over long distances, why? It takes a lot of fuel.
Why not a, 60 ft fishing boat with the nets hanging over the deck and
a couple of guys working on them?
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 09:19:47 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 12/30/2025 9:04 AM, John B. wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 07:50:51 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 12/30/2025 4:10 AM, zen cycle wrote:
On 12/29/2025 11:11 PM, John B. wrote:
I read all the news about Beloved Leader all but invading
Venezuela
and claiming that the U.S. needs Greenland and assumed
that was just
Wonder Boy showing off.
Then I did a little research and it seems that-a Venezuela
has the
world's highest proven crude oil reserves, almost
surpassing those of
Saudi Arabia and US combined and that Greenland is-a widely
believed to
hold excellent potentials for a host of natural resources,
including
zinc, lead, gold, iron ore, heavy and light rare earth
elements,
copper as well as crude oil.
It might make one wonder whether drugs really is the problem.
--
There is no cause to wonder. Drugs are not the issue.
p.s. As I have mentioned here previously, from my direct
experience, every international flight at every airport all
day long every day carries contraband. The drug networks are
heavily invested in personnel among ground crews at both
ends and blowing up cigarette boing ts will not touch the big
end of the problem.
One solution is to ignore the blokes selling it and go after the guys
buying it.
--
cheers,
John B.
Good luck with that. We don't jail muggers, slashers or
thieves so why the dope addicts?
Oh I didn't expect that you would I was simply illustrating rather one
sided acts.
We just had a discussion about the death penalty and its BAD! BAD!,
BAD! But perfectly allowable for a guy in a boat.
--
cheers,
John B.
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 09:17:16 -0500, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 07:45:11 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 12/29/2025 10:11 PM, John B. wrote:
I read all the news about Beloved Leader all but invading Venezuela
and claiming that the U.S. needs Greenland and assumed that was just
Wonder Boy showing off.
Then I did a little research and it seems that Venezuela has the
world's highest proven crude oil reserves, almost surpassing those of
Saudi Arabia and US combined and that Greenland is widely believed to >>>> hold excellent potentials for a host of natural resources, including
zinc, lead, gold, iron ore, heavy and light rare earth elements,
copper as well as crude oil.
It might make one wonder whether drugs really is the problem.
--
cheers,
John B.
I was OK with enforcing sanctions of long (2005) standing of
oil transport in open waters but the drone bombing of docks
is an act of war, which seems to me a step too far. We'll
see...
Nothing new here....
Obama launched airstrikes or military raids in at least seven
countries: Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Yemen, Somalia and
Pakistan.
And accompliahed?
--
cheers,
John B.
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 20:51:14 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 09:17:16 -0500, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 07:45:11 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 12/29/2025 10:11 PM, John B. wrote:
I read all the news about Beloved Leader all but invading Venezuela
and claiming that the U.S. needs Greenland and assumed that was just >>>>> Wonder Boy showing off.
Then I did a little research and it seems that Venezuela has the
world's highest proven crude oil reserves, almost surpassing those of >>>>> Saudi Arabia and US combined and that Greenland is widely believed to >>>>> hold excellent potentials for a host of natural resources, including >>>>> zinc, lead, gold, iron ore, heavy and light rare earth elements,
copper as well as crude oil.
It might make one wonder whether drugs really is the problem.
--
cheers,
John B.
I was OK with enforcing sanctions of long (2005) standing of
oil transport in open waters but the drone bombing of docks
is an act of war, which seems to me a step too far. We'll
see...
Nothing new here....
Obama launched airstrikes or military raids in at least seven
countries: Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Yemen, Somalia and
Pakistan.
And accompliahed?
Killed a lot of women and children...
--
C'est bon
Soloman
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 20:51:02 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 16:51:02 -0500, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 07:04:35 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 07:50:51 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote: >>>>
On 12/30/2025 4:10 AM, zen cycle wrote:
On 12/29/2025 11:11 PM, John B. wrote:
I read all the news about Beloved Leader all but invading
Venezuela
and claiming that the U.S. needs Greenland and assumed
that was just
Wonder Boy showing off.
Then I did a little research and it seems that-a Venezuela
has the
world's highest proven crude oil reserves, almost
surpassing those of
Saudi Arabia and US combined and that Greenland is-a widely
believed to
hold excellent potentials for a host of natural resources,
including
zinc, lead, gold, iron ore, heavy and light rare earth
elements,
copper as well as crude oil.
It might make one wonder whether drugs really is the problem.
--
There is no cause to wonder. Drugs are not the issue.
p.s. As I have mentioned here previously, from my direct
experience, every international flight at every airport all
day long every day carries contraband. The drug networks are
heavily invested in personnel among ground crews at both
ends and blowing up cigarette boing ts will not touch the big
end of the problem.
One solution is to ignore the blokes selling it and go after the guys
buying it.
The users are just stupid. The traffickers are bad, but a dead
trafficker is a good trafficker.
But we've just had a discussion about how wrong the death penalty is.
As I see it, killing someone while they are strapped to a table is
different from killing them while they are committing a crime to stop
them from completing the crime.
--
C'est bon
Soloman
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 02:16:52 -0500, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 20:51:02 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 16:51:02 -0500, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 07:04:35 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 07:50:51 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote: >>>>>
On 12/30/2025 4:10 AM, zen cycle wrote:
On 12/29/2025 11:11 PM, John B. wrote:
I read all the news about Beloved Leader all but invading
Venezuela
and claiming that the U.S. needs Greenland and assumed
that was just
Wonder Boy showing off.
Then I did a little research and it seems that-a Venezuela
has the
world's highest proven crude oil reserves, almost
surpassing those of
Saudi Arabia and US combined and that Greenland is-a widely
believed to
hold excellent potentials for a host of natural resources,
including
zinc, lead, gold, iron ore, heavy and light rare earth
elements,
copper as well as crude oil.
It might make one wonder whether drugs really is the problem.
--
There is no cause to wonder. Drugs are not the issue.
p.s. As I have mentioned here previously, from my direct
experience, every international flight at every airport all
day long every day carries contraband. The drug networks are
heavily invested in personnel among ground crews at both
ends and blowing up cigarette boing ts will not touch the big
end of the problem.
One solution is to ignore the blokes selling it and go after the guys >>>>> buying it.
The users are just stupid. The traffickers are bad, but a dead
trafficker is a good trafficker.
But we've just had a discussion about how wrong the death penalty is.
As I see it, killing someone while they are strapped to a table is
different from killing them while they are committing a crime to stop
them from completing the crime.
If we are talking bout the small boat sinking, alleged to be dope
boats. Has there been any proof that the were actually loaded with
drugs or this just what some said?
--
cheers,
John B.
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 02:16:52 -0500, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 20:51:02 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 16:51:02 -0500, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 07:04:35 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 07:50:51 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote: >>>>>
On 12/30/2025 4:10 AM, zen cycle wrote:
On 12/29/2025 11:11 PM, John B. wrote:
I read all the news about Beloved Leader all but invading
Venezuela
and claiming that the U.S. needs Greenland and assumed
that was just
Wonder Boy showing off.
Then I did a little research and it seems that-a Venezuela
has the
world's highest proven crude oil reserves, almost
surpassing those of
Saudi Arabia and US combined and that Greenland is-a widely
believed to
hold excellent potentials for a host of natural resources,
including
zinc, lead, gold, iron ore, heavy and light rare earth
elements,
copper as well as crude oil.
It might make one wonder whether drugs really is the problem.
--
There is no cause to wonder. Drugs are not the issue.
p.s. As I have mentioned here previously, from my direct
experience, every international flight at every airport all
day long every day carries contraband. The drug networks are
heavily invested in personnel among ground crews at both
ends and blowing up cigarette boing ts will not touch the big
end of the problem.
One solution is to ignore the blokes selling it and go after the guys >>>>> buying it.
The users are just stupid. The traffickers are bad, but a dead
trafficker is a good trafficker.
But we've just had a discussion about how wrong the death penalty is.
As I see it, killing someone while they are strapped to a table is
different from killing them while they are committing a crime to stop
them from completing the crime.
I like it. Lets be sure all the Police are informed, "don't arrest
them, just shoot them."
--
cheers,
John B.
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 05:09:40 -0500, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 01:53:08 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 02:16:52 -0500, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 20:51:02 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 16:51:02 -0500, Catrike RyderAs I see it, killing someone while they are strapped to a table is
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 07:04:35 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 07:50:51 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote: >>>>>>>
On 12/30/2025 4:10 AM, zen cycle wrote:
On 12/29/2025 11:11 PM, John B. wrote:
I read all the news about Beloved Leader all but invading
Venezuela
and claiming that the U.S. needs Greenland and assumed
that was just
Wonder Boy showing off.
Then I did a little research and it seems that-a Venezuela >>>>>>>>>> has the
world's highest proven crude oil reserves, almost
surpassing those of
Saudi Arabia and US combined and that Greenland is-a widely >>>>>>>>>> believed to
hold excellent potentials for a host of natural resources, >>>>>>>>>> including
zinc, lead, gold, iron ore, heavy and light rare earth
elements,
copper as well as crude oil.
It might make one wonder whether drugs really is the problem. >>>>>>>>>> --
There is no cause to wonder. Drugs are not the issue.
p.s. As I have mentioned here previously, from my direct
experience, every international flight at every airport all
day long every day carries contraband. The drug networks are
heavily invested in personnel among ground crews at both
ends and blowing up cigarette boing ts will not touch the big
end of the problem.
One solution is to ignore the blokes selling it and go after the guys >>>>>>> buying it.
The users are just stupid. The traffickers are bad, but a dead
trafficker is a good trafficker.
But we've just had a discussion about how wrong the death penalty is. >>>>
different from killing them while they are committing a crime to stop
them from completing the crime.
If we are talking bout the small boat sinking, alleged to be dope
boats. Has there been any proof that the were actually loaded with
drugs or this just what some said?
Pictures show them loaded with small packages.
Lack of any kind of fishing equipment.
High speed travel for long distances across open water
What else can it be?
Get real!
Years ago raising poppies in N.W. Thailand was the maim money crop in
some areas and I can assure they they didn't.transport the product it
in cute little boxes, it was in kilo or multi kilo bags.
As for high speed over long distances, why? It takes a lot of fuel.
Why not a, 60 ft fishing boat with the nets hanging over the deck and
a couple of guys working on them?
--
cheers,
John B.
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 04:37:29 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 05:09:40 -0500, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 01:53:08 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 02:16:52 -0500, Catrike Ryder >>>><Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 20:51:02 -0800, John B. >>>>><jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 16:51:02 -0500, Catrike Ryder >>>>>><Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:As I see it, killing someone while they are strapped to a table is >>>>>different from killing them while they are committing a crime to stop >>>>>them from completing the crime.
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 07:04:35 -0800, John B. >>>>>>><jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 07:50:51 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>
On 12/30/2025 4:10 AM, zen cycle wrote:
On 12/29/2025 11:11 PM, John B. wrote:
I read all the news about Beloved Leader all but invading >>>>>>>>>>> Venezuela
and claiming that the U.S. needs Greenland and assumed
that was just
Wonder Boy showing off.
Then I did a little research and it seems thata Venezuela >>>>>>>>>>> has the
world's highest proven crude oil reserves, almost
surpassing those of
Saudi Arabia and US combined and that Greenland isa widely >>>>>>>>>>> believed to
hold excellent potentials for a host of natural resources, >>>>>>>>>>> including
zinc, lead, gold, iron ore, heavy and light rare earth
elements,
copper as well as crude oil.
It might make one wonder whether drugs really is the problem. >>>>>>>>>>> --
There is no cause to wonder. Drugs are not the issue.
p.s. As I have mentioned here previously, from my direct >>>>>>>>>experience, every international flight at every airport all >>>>>>>>>day long every day carries contraband. The drug networks are >>>>>>>>>heavily invested in personnel among ground crews at both >>>>>>>>>ends and blowing up cigarette boing ts will not touch the big >>>>>>>>>end of the problem.
One solution is to ignore the blokes selling it and go after the guys >>>>>>>>buying it.
The users are just stupid. The traffickers are bad, but a dead >>>>>>>trafficker is a good trafficker.
But we've just had a discussion about how wrong the death penalty is. >>>>>
If we are talking bout the small boat sinking, alleged to be dope >>>>boats. Has there been any proof that the were actually loaded with >>>>drugs or this just what some said?
Pictures show them loaded with small packages.
Lack of any kind of fishing equipment.
High speed travel for long distances across open water
What else can it be?
Get real!
Years ago raising poppies in N.W. Thailand was the maim money crop in
some areas and I can assure they they didn't.transport the product it
in cute little boxes, it was in kilo or multi kilo bags.
Much like what could be seen in the boats just before they got blown
up.
As for high speed over long distances, why? It takes a lot of fuel.
Indeed, but that's what they were doing when they got blown up.
Why not a, 60 ft fishing boat with the nets hanging over the deck and
a couple of guys working on them?
That's not the kinds of boats that were targeted.
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 09:13:50 -0500, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 04:37:29 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 05:09:40 -0500, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 01:53:08 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 02:16:52 -0500, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 20:51:02 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 16:51:02 -0500, Catrike RyderAs I see it, killing someone while they are strapped to a table is >>>>>> different from killing them while they are committing a crime to stop >>>>>> them from completing the crime.
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 07:04:35 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 07:50:51 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 12/30/2025 4:10 AM, zen cycle wrote:
On 12/29/2025 11:11 PM, John B. wrote:
I read all the news about Beloved Leader all but invading >>>>>>>>>>>> Venezuela
and claiming that the U.S. needs Greenland and assumed >>>>>>>>>>>> that was just
Wonder Boy showing off.
Then I did a little research and it seems that-a Venezuela >>>>>>>>>>>> has the
world's highest proven crude oil reserves, almost
surpassing those of
Saudi Arabia and US combined and that Greenland is-a widely >>>>>>>>>>>> believed to
hold excellent potentials for a host of natural resources, >>>>>>>>>>>> including
zinc, lead, gold, iron ore, heavy and light rare earth >>>>>>>>>>>> elements,
copper as well as crude oil.
It might make one wonder whether drugs really is the problem. >>>>>>>>>>>> --
There is no cause to wonder. Drugs are not the issue.
p.s. As I have mentioned here previously, from my direct
experience, every international flight at every airport all >>>>>>>>>> day long every day carries contraband. The drug networks are >>>>>>>>>> heavily invested in personnel among ground crews at both
ends and blowing up cigarette boing ts will not touch the big >>>>>>>>>> end of the problem.
One solution is to ignore the blokes selling it and go after the guys >>>>>>>>> buying it.
The users are just stupid. The traffickers are bad, but a dead >>>>>>>> trafficker is a good trafficker.
But we've just had a discussion about how wrong the death penalty is. >>>>>>
If we are talking bout the small boat sinking, alleged to be dope
boats. Has there been any proof that the were actually loaded with
drugs or this just what some said?
Pictures show them loaded with small packages.
Lack of any kind of fishing equipment.
High speed travel for long distances across open water
What else can it be?
Get real!
Years ago raising poppies in N.W. Thailand was the maim money crop in
some areas and I can assure they they didn't.transport the product it
in cute little boxes, it was in kilo or multi kilo bags.
Much like what could be seen in the boats just before they got blown
up.
As for high speed over long distances, why? It takes a lot of fuel.
Indeed, but that's what they were doing when they got blown up.
Why not a, 60 ft fishing boat with the nets hanging over the deck and
a couple of guys working on them?
That's not the kinds of boats that were targeted.
Well, see. It is some 2,972.82 miles from Venezuela to the U.S. Tell
us more about these small boats with the little boxes on them.
Are these boats travel between Venezuela and the U.S.? Or to some
foreign country that Fearless Leader is sinking.
Or perhaps not so fearless as it is said that he used fake medical
status to evade being drafted... heal splint, cant walk https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2019/02/27/trumps-lawyer-no-basis-for-presidents-medical-deferment-from-vietnam/
And what is happening with these tankers that the U.S. is grabbing?
Are they selling the oil?
--
cheers,
John B.
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 09:13:50 -0500, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 04:37:29 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 05:09:40 -0500, Catrike Ryder >>><Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 01:53:08 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 02:16:52 -0500, Catrike Ryder >>>>><Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 20:51:02 -0800, John B. >>>>>><jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 16:51:02 -0500, Catrike Ryder >>>>>>><Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:As I see it, killing someone while they are strapped to a table is >>>>>>different from killing them while they are committing a crime to stop >>>>>>them from completing the crime.
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 07:04:35 -0800, John B. >>>>>>>><jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 07:50:51 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>
On 12/30/2025 4:10 AM, zen cycle wrote:
On 12/29/2025 11:11 PM, John B. wrote:
I read all the news about Beloved Leader all but invading >>>>>>>>>>>> Venezuela
and claiming that the U.S. needs Greenland and assumed >>>>>>>>>>>> that was just
Wonder Boy showing off.
Then I did a little research and it seems thata Venezuela >>>>>>>>>>>> has the
world's highest proven crude oil reserves, almost
surpassing those of
Saudi Arabia and US combined and that Greenland isa widely >>>>>>>>>>>> believed to
hold excellent potentials for a host of natural resources, >>>>>>>>>>>> including
zinc, lead, gold, iron ore, heavy and light rare earth >>>>>>>>>>>> elements,
copper as well as crude oil.
It might make one wonder whether drugs really is the problem. >>>>>>>>>>>> --
There is no cause to wonder. Drugs are not the issue.
p.s. As I have mentioned here previously, from my direct >>>>>>>>>>experience, every international flight at every airport all >>>>>>>>>>day long every day carries contraband. The drug networks are >>>>>>>>>>heavily invested in personnel among ground crews at both >>>>>>>>>>ends and blowing up cigarette boing ts will not touch the big >>>>>>>>>>end of the problem.
One solution is to ignore the blokes selling it and go after the guys >>>>>>>>>buying it.
The users are just stupid. The traffickers are bad, but a dead >>>>>>>>trafficker is a good trafficker.
But we've just had a discussion about how wrong the death penalty is. >>>>>>
If we are talking bout the small boat sinking, alleged to be dope >>>>>boats. Has there been any proof that the were actually loaded with >>>>>drugs or this just what some said?
Pictures show them loaded with small packages.
Lack of any kind of fishing equipment.
High speed travel for long distances across open water
What else can it be?
Get real!
Years ago raising poppies in N.W. Thailand was the maim money crop in >>>some areas and I can assure they they didn't.transport the product it
in cute little boxes, it was in kilo or multi kilo bags.
Much like what could be seen in the boats just before they got blown
up.
As for high speed over long distances, why? It takes a lot of fuel.
Indeed, but that's what they were doing when they got blown up.
Why not a, 60 ft fishing boat with the nets hanging over the deck and
a couple of guys working on them?
That's not the kinds of boats that were targeted.
Well, see. It is some 2,972.82 miles from Venezuela to the U.S. Tell
us more about these small boats with the little boxes on them.
Are these boats travel between Venezuela and the U.S.? Or to some
foreign country that Fearless Leader is sinking.
Or perhaps not so fearless as it is said that he used fake medical
status to evade being drafted... heal splint, cant walk >https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2019/02/27/trumps-lawyer-no-basis-for-presidents-medical-deferment-from-vietnam/
And what is happening with these tankers that the U.S. is grabbing?
Are they selling the oil?
A cigarette boat is utterly different in marine architecture
and the multiple high-HP engines are very thirsty. Which
is fine for that business because contraband operating
margins are much higher than fishing operations enjoy.
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 09:12:51 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
(chomp)
A cigarette boat is utterly different in marine architecture
and the multiple high-HP engines are very thirsty. Which
is fine for that business because contraband operating
margins are much higher than fishing operations enjoy.
If the sea was fairly calm, a hydrofoil "recreational" boat might be
worth considering: <https://www.google.com/search?q=recreational%20hydrofoil%20boat&udm=2> Without the drag from the hull, the improvement in fuel efficiency is spectacular. <https://candela.com/blog/foiling-vs-floating-understanding-the-differences-between-hydrofoil-boats-and-other-boats/>
"Foil boats achieve higher speeds and superior performance relative to
engine power, even in choppy waters, due to efficiency. By reducing
air and water resistance by up to 80%, hydrofoils enable faster speeds
and enhance stability against wave action."
I read all the news about Beloved Leader all but invading VenezuelaIt's all a conspiracy John, no one cares that 200 people were being killed every day byFentanyl, least of all, you. You-re only interested in talking about things you don't understand.
and claiming that the U.S. needs Greenland and assumed that was just
Wonder Boy showing off.
Then I did a little research and it seems that Venezuela has the
world's highest proven crude oil reserves, almost surpassing those of
Saudi Arabia and US combined and that Greenland is widely believed to
hold excellent potentials for a host of natural resources, including
zinc, lead, gold, iron ore, heavy and light rare earth elements,
copper as well as crude oil.
It might make one wonder whether drugs really is the problem.
On Mon Dec 29 20:11:29 2025 John B. wrote:
I read all the news about Beloved Leader all but invading Venezuela
and claiming that the U.S. needs Greenland and assumed that was just
Wonder Boy showing off.
Then I did a little research and it seems that Venezuela has the
world's highest proven crude oil reserves, almost surpassing those of
Saudi Arabia and US combined and that Greenland is widely believed to
hold excellent potentials for a host of natural resources, including
zinc, lead, gold, iron ore, heavy and light rare earth elements,
copper as well as crude oil.
It might make one wonder whether drugs really is the problem.
It's all a conspiracy John, no one cares that 200 people were being killed every day byFentanyl, least of all, you. You-re only interested in talking about things you don't understand.
Presently and for the foreseeable future the US is producing more oil than it needs. My wife's father came from Texas and owned a small farm there that they drill for oil on. She and her two siblings are still being paid $200 each per month after 100 years for their small portion of the commission.
Since you seem to have missed it - The USA is at war on international terrorism. Venezuelan President now and for the foreseeable future is a member if a major drug cartel who used terrorism and election fraud to gain and retain office. As the Democrats have been doing here. How do you suppose that So many people Have been killed with so little reaction from Obama or Biden who were bring on judges that were releasing murders and high end drug pushers out on the street and not prosecuting them?
Tell us again how without any serious experimental test drilling how anyone could say that Iceland (which is part of the North American continental mass and politically under the protection of the USA) could have any extensive oil?
If you don't like President Trump just say so, don't invent crimes that aren't and never were committed. You are sounding like Liebernabb and Flunky.
On 12/31/2025 3:53 AM, John B. wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 02:16:52 -0500, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 20:51:02 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 16:51:02 -0500, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 07:04:35 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 07:50:51 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org>
wrote:
On 12/30/2025 4:10 AM, zen cycle wrote:
On 12/29/2025 11:11 PM, John B. wrote:
I read all the news about Beloved Leader all but invading
Venezuela
and claiming that the U.S. needs Greenland and assumed
that was just
Wonder Boy showing off.
Then I did a little research and it seems that-a Venezuela
has the
world's highest proven crude oil reserves, almost
surpassing those of
Saudi Arabia and US combined and that Greenland is-a widely
believed to
hold excellent potentials for a host of natural resources,
including
zinc, lead, gold, iron ore, heavy and light rare earth
elements,
copper as well as crude oil.
It might make one wonder whether drugs really is the problem. >>>>>>>>> --
There is no cause to wonder. Drugs are not the issue.
p.s. As I have mentioned here previously, from my direct
experience, every international flight at every airport all
day long every day carries contraband. The drug networks are
heavily invested in personnel among ground crews at both
ends and blowing up cigarette boing ts will not touch the big
end of the problem.
One solution is to ignore the blokes selling it and go after the guys >>>>>> buying it.
The users are just stupid. The traffickers are bad, but a dead
trafficker is a good trafficker.
But we've just had a discussion about how wrong the death penalty is.
As I see it, killing someone while they are strapped to a table is
different from killing them while they are committing a crime to stop
them from completing the crime.
If we are talking bout the small boat sinking, alleged to be dope
boats. Has there been any proof that the were actually loaded with
drugs or this just what some said?
--
cheers,
John B.
Check the videos.-a The cargo is floating amid the debris. Cocaine bales
and chemical drums are very different from spools of fishing net.
On 12/29/2025 10:11 PM, John B. wrote:
I read all the news about Beloved Leader all but invading Venezuela
and claiming that the U.S. needs Greenland and assumed that was just
Wonder Boy showing off.
Then I did a little research and it seems that Venezuela has the
world's highest proven crude oil reserves, almost surpassing those of
Saudi Arabia and US combined and that Greenland is widely believed to
hold excellent potentials for a host of natural resources, including
zinc, lead, gold, iron ore, heavy and light rare earth elements,
copper as well as crude oil.
It might make one wonder whether drugs really is the problem.
--
cheers,
John B.
I was OK with enforcing sanctions of long (2005) standing ofOut of curiosity, do you know what is going on? Maduro has actually been sending those speedboats packed with Fentanyl out. Do you think that the CIA doesn't have sources inside the Maduro government telling us just what is going on?
oil transport in open waters but the drone bombing of docks
is an act of war, which seems to me a step too far. We'll
see...
Nothing new here....But that was OK because Obama is a queer and queers are special.
Obama launched airstrikes or military raids in at least seven
countries: Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Yemen, Somalia and
Pakistan.
Everyone wants to run Trump down but Obama did all the bad things but itI believe that President Trump really wants a better world and is bing opposed every inch of the way. The Slime Stream Media is fighting him every inch of the way EVEN when they know he is correct.
was ok for him. Obama was presented differently by the party and the
public bought the bill of goods. Trump has his personality quirks but I believe he genuinely wants a better America that what has been going on.
The crazy open borders that simply allow anyone to come it is nuts. I
don't know about the rest of you but I have to vent people I don't know before that come into my house. I do think US has been taken advantaged
of by other nations and that has to stop.
There is no cause to wonder. Drugs are not the issue.Meaning I suspect that you're on drugs.
On 12/30/2025 6:18 AM, John B. wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 05:10:46 -0500, zen cycle
<funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 12/29/2025 11:11 PM, John B. wrote:
I read all the news about Beloved Leader all but invading Venezuela
and claiming that the U.S. needs Greenland and assumed that was just
Wonder Boy showing off.
Then I did a little research and it seems that Venezuela has the
world's highest proven crude oil reserves, almost surpassing those of
Saudi Arabia and US combined and that Greenland is widely believed to >>> hold excellent potentials for a host of natural resources, including
zinc, lead, gold, iron ore, heavy and light rare earth elements,
copper as well as crude oil.
It might make one wonder whether drugs really is the problem.
--
There is no cause to wonder. Drugs are not the issue.
Goodness Gracious Sakes Alive! Can it be? Fearless Leader is not
telling us the truth?
Or to put it another way. You elected him and now you have live with
him.
--
I didn't vote for him.
On Tue Dec 30 05:10:46 2025 zen cycle wrote:
There is no cause to wonder. Drugs are not the issue.
Meaning I suspect that you're on drugs.
Good luck with that. We don't jail muggers, slashers orPeople are waking up from a long immoral sleep.
thieves so why the dope addicts?
On Tue Dec 30 09:19:47 2025 AMuzi wrote:
Good luck with that. We don't jail muggers, slashers or
thieves so why the dope addicts?
People are waking up from a long immoral sleep.
On 12/31/2025 3:53 AM, John B. wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 02:16:52 -0500, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 20:51:02 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 16:51:02 -0500, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 07:04:35 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 07:50:51 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote: >>>>>>
On 12/30/2025 4:10 AM, zen cycle wrote:
On 12/29/2025 11:11 PM, John B. wrote:
I read all the news about Beloved Leader all but invading
Venezuela
and claiming that the U.S. needs Greenland and assumed
that was just
Wonder Boy showing off.
Then I did a little research and it seems thata Venezuela
has the
world's highest proven crude oil reserves, almost
surpassing those of
Saudi Arabia and US combined and that Greenland isa widely
believed to
hold excellent potentials for a host of natural resources,
including
zinc, lead, gold, iron ore, heavy and light rare earth
elements,
copper as well as crude oil.
It might make one wonder whether drugs really is the problem. >>>>>>>>> --
There is no cause to wonder. Drugs are not the issue.
p.s. As I have mentioned here previously, from my direct
experience, every international flight at every airport all
day long every day carries contraband. The drug networks are
heavily invested in personnel among ground crews at both
ends and blowing up cigarette boing ts will not touch the big
end of the problem.
One solution is to ignore the blokes selling it and go after the guys >>>>>> buying it.
The users are just stupid. The traffickers are bad, but a dead
trafficker is a good trafficker.
But we've just had a discussion about how wrong the death penalty is.
As I see it, killing someone while they are strapped to a table is
different from killing them while they are committing a crime to stop
them from completing the crime.
If we are talking bout the small boat sinking, alleged to be dope
boats. Has there been any proof that the were actually loaded with
drugs or this just what some said?
--
cheers,
John B.
Check the videos. The cargo is floating amid the debris.
Cocaine bales and chemical drums are very different from
spools of fishing net.
On 12/31/2025 3:09 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Tue Dec 30 05:10:46 2025 zen cycle wrote:
There is no cause to wonder. Drugs are not the issue.
Meaning I suspect that you're on drugs.
heh heh heh
In our age group NOT being on drugs is unusual.
https://www.consumeraffairs.com/news/more-older-americans-are-taking-five-or-more-medications-a-day-raising-health-concerns-123125.html
That's a LOT of drugs and the billing is even larger than
reality:
https://www.wsj.com/health/healthcare/medicare-pharmacies-extra-drugs-d40e7919?st=ZT7sKw&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink
On 12/31/2025 9:07 AM, AMuzi wrote:
On 12/31/2025 3:53 AM, John B. wrote:None of these boats on a fishing expedition they are running drugs
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 02:16:52 -0500, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 20:51:02 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 16:51:02 -0500, Catrike RyderAs I see it, killing someone while they are strapped to a table is
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 07:04:35 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 07:50:51 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> >>>>>>> wrote:
On 12/30/2025 4:10 AM, zen cycle wrote:
On 12/29/2025 11:11 PM, John B. wrote:
I read all the news about Beloved Leader all but invading
Venezuela
and claiming that the U.S. needs Greenland and assumed
that was just
Wonder Boy showing off.
Then I did a little research and it seems thata Venezuela
has the
world's highest proven crude oil reserves, almost
surpassing those of
Saudi Arabia and US combined and that Greenland isa widely >>>>>>>>>> believed to
hold excellent potentials for a host of natural resources, >>>>>>>>>> including
zinc, lead, gold, iron ore, heavy and light rare earth
elements,
copper as well as crude oil.
It might make one wonder whether drugs really is the problem. >>>>>>>>>> --
There is no cause to wonder. Drugs are not the issue.
p.s. As I have mentioned here previously, from my direct
experience, every international flight at every airport all
day long every day carries contraband. The drug networks are
heavily invested in personnel among ground crews at both
ends and blowing up cigarette boing ts will not touch the big
end of the problem.
One solution is to ignore the blokes selling it and go after the guys >>>>>>> buying it.
The users are just stupid. The traffickers are bad, but a dead
trafficker is a good trafficker.
But we've just had a discussion about how wrong the death penalty is. >>>>
different from killing them while they are committing a crime to stop
them from completing the crime.
If we are talking bout the small boat sinking, alleged to be dope
boats. Has there been any proof that the were actually loaded with
drugs or this just what some said?
--
cheers,
John B.
Check the videos.a The cargo is floating amid the debris. Cocaine bales
and chemical drums are very different from spools of fishing net.
period. Nothing more and nothing more dangerous to others.
On Tue Dec 30 09:31:43 2025 Mark J cleary wrote:
Everyone wants to run Trump down but Obama did all the bad things but it
was ok for him. Obama was presented differently by the party and the
public bought the bill of goods. Trump has his personality quirks but I
believe he genuinely wants a better America that what has been going on.
The crazy open borders that simply allow anyone to come it is nuts. I
don't know about the rest of you but I have to vent people I don't know
before that come into my house. I do think US has been taken advantaged
of by other nations and that has to stop.
I believe that President Trump really wants a better world and is bing opposed every inch of the way. The Slime Stream Media is fighting him every inch of the way EVEN when they know he is correct.
What would make the media and the Democrats say that Europe shouldn't pay their own way even when they can afford it? The Socialism that is so active in Europe is the same things that Hitler was promising! That Stalin murdered millions for. How is it that Europe learned nothing from that?
On 12/30/2025 8:52 PM, John B. wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 09:19:47 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 12/30/2025 9:04 AM, John B. wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 07:50:51 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote: >>>>
On 12/30/2025 4:10 AM, zen cycle wrote:
On 12/29/2025 11:11 PM, John B. wrote:
I read all the news about Beloved Leader all but invading
Venezuela
and claiming that the U.S. needs Greenland and assumed
that was just
Wonder Boy showing off.
Then I did a little research and it seems thata Venezuela
has the
world's highest proven crude oil reserves, almost
surpassing those of
Saudi Arabia and US combined and that Greenland isa widely
believed to
hold excellent potentials for a host of natural resources,
including
zinc, lead, gold, iron ore, heavy and light rare earth
elements,
copper as well as crude oil.
It might make one wonder whether drugs really is the problem.
--
There is no cause to wonder. Drugs are not the issue.
p.s. As I have mentioned here previously, from my direct
experience, every international flight at every airport all
day long every day carries contraband. The drug networks are
heavily invested in personnel among ground crews at both
ends and blowing up cigarette boing ts will not touch the big
end of the problem.
One solution is to ignore the blokes selling it and go after the guys
buying it.
--
cheers,
John B.
Good luck with that. We don't jail muggers, slashers or
thieves so why the dope addicts?
Oh I didn't expect that you would I was simply illustrating rather one
sided acts.
We just had a discussion about the death penalty and its BAD! BAD!,
BAD! But perfectly allowable for a guy in a boat.
--
cheers,
John B.
"guy in a boat"
???
US policy for a very long time is to interdict contraband
trafficking. Check the videos; they're cigarette boats with
multiple high-HP engines and full of bales or drums of
cargo. Not remotely like pleasure craft or working fishers.
Oh, and the protocols are very different in international
waters BTW.
On Mon Dec 29 20:11:29 2025 John B. wrote:
I read all the news about Beloved Leader all but invading Venezuela
and claiming that the U.S. needs Greenland and assumed that was just
Wonder Boy showing off.
Then I did a little research and it seems that Venezuela has the
world's highest proven crude oil reserves, almost surpassing those of
Saudi Arabia and US combined and that Greenland is widely believed to
hold excellent potentials for a host of natural resources, including
zinc, lead, gold, iron ore, heavy and light rare earth elements,
copper as well as crude oil.
It might make one wonder whether drugs really is the problem.
It's all a conspiracy John, no one cares that 200 people were being killed every day byFentanyl, least of all, you. You-re only interested in talking about things you don't understand.
Presently and for the foreseeable future the US is producing more oil than it needs. My wife's father came from Texas and owned a small farm there that they drill for oil on. She and her two siblings are still being paid $200 each per month after 100 years for their small portion of the commission.
Since you seem to have missed it - The USA is at war on international terrorism. Venezuelan President now and for the foreseeable future is a member if a major drug cartel who used terrorism and election fraud to gain and retain office. As the Democrats have been doing here. How do you suppose that So many people Have been killed with so little reaction from Obama or Biden who were bring on judges that were releasing murders and high end drug pushers out on the street and not prosecuting them?
Tell us again how without any serious experimental test drilling how anyone could say that Iceland (which is part of the North American continental mass and politically under the protection of the USA) could have any extensive oil?
If you don't like President Trump just say so, don't invent crimes that aren't and never were committed. You are sounding like Liebernabb and Flunky.
Well, I read on the Web that it is nearly 3,000 miles from Venezuela
to the U.S.... why not go by road?
Are cigarette boats really the best selection for carrying cargo that distance?
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 21:35:47 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
Well, I read on the Web that it is nearly 3,000 miles from Venezuela
to the U.S.... why not go by road?
Road transport is blocked by the Darion Gap: ><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dari%C3%A9n_Gap>
"... it acts as a natural barrier between North America and South
America".
Are cigarette boats really the best selection for carrying cargo that distance?
Yes, because ocean traffic does not go through territory held by
competing drug lords.
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 22:23:25 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 21:35:47 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
Well, I read on the Web that it is nearly 3,000 miles from Venezuela
to the U.S.... why not go by road?
Road transport is blocked by the Dari|-n Gap:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dari%C3%A9n_Gap>
"... it acts as a natural barrier between North America and South
America".
Are cigarette boats really the best selection for carrying cargo that distance?
Yes, because ocean traffic does not go through territory held by
competing drug lords.
Thanks. Interesting. I didn't know about the Dari|-n Gap. Now I know
I'll never be able to ride the Catrike to South America.
--
C'est bon
Soloman
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 15:30:06 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 12/31/2025 3:09 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Tue Dec 30 05:10:46 2025 zen cycle wrote:
There is no cause to wonder. Drugs are not the issue.
Meaning I suspect that you're on drugs.
heh heh heh
In our age group NOT being on drugs is unusual.
https://www.consumeraffairs.com/news/more-older-americans-are-taking-five-or-more-medications-a-day-raising-health-concerns-123125.html
That's a LOT of drugs and the billing is even larger than
reality:
https://www.wsj.com/health/healthcare/medicare-pharmacies-extra-drugs-d40e7919?st=ZT7sKw&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink
The difference between the U.S. and a little country like Thailand is interesting. The U.S., said to be the richest country in the world,
where medical costs are said to be the highest in the world while
Thailand, a relatively tiny country has totally free medical service
for their citizens.
--
cheers,
John B.
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 09:07:28 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 12/31/2025 3:53 AM, John B. wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 02:16:52 -0500, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 20:51:02 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 16:51:02 -0500, Catrike RyderAs I see it, killing someone while they are strapped to a table is
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 07:04:35 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 07:50:51 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote: >>>>>>>
On 12/30/2025 4:10 AM, zen cycle wrote:
On 12/29/2025 11:11 PM, John B. wrote:
I read all the news about Beloved Leader all but invading
Venezuela
and claiming that the U.S. needs Greenland and assumed
that was just
Wonder Boy showing off.
Then I did a little research and it seems that-a Venezuela >>>>>>>>>> has the
world's highest proven crude oil reserves, almost
surpassing those of
Saudi Arabia and US combined and that Greenland is-a widely >>>>>>>>>> believed to
hold excellent potentials for a host of natural resources, >>>>>>>>>> including
zinc, lead, gold, iron ore, heavy and light rare earth
elements,
copper as well as crude oil.
It might make one wonder whether drugs really is the problem. >>>>>>>>>> --
There is no cause to wonder. Drugs are not the issue.
p.s. As I have mentioned here previously, from my direct
experience, every international flight at every airport all
day long every day carries contraband. The drug networks are
heavily invested in personnel among ground crews at both
ends and blowing up cigarette boing ts will not touch the big
end of the problem.
One solution is to ignore the blokes selling it and go after the guys >>>>>>> buying it.
The users are just stupid. The traffickers are bad, but a dead
trafficker is a good trafficker.
But we've just had a discussion about how wrong the death penalty is. >>>>
different from killing them while they are committing a crime to stop
them from completing the crime.
If we are talking bout the small boat sinking, alleged to be dope
boats. Has there been any proof that the were actually loaded with
drugs or this just what some said?
--
cheers,
John B.
Check the videos. The cargo is floating amid the debris.
Cocaine bales and chemical drums are very different from
spools of fishing net.
Cocaine bales? Got the big label "COCANE" right there on the side of
the bale too. Makes it easy to find when they get to port.
--
cheers,
John B.
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 22:23:25 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 21:35:47 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
Well, I read on the Web that it is nearly 3,000 miles from Venezuela
to the U.S.... why not go by road?
Road transport is blocked by the Dari|-n Gap:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dari%C3%A9n_Gap>
"... it acts as a natural barrier between North America and South
America".
Are cigarette boats really the best selection for carrying cargo that distance?
Yes, because ocean traffic does not go through territory held by
competing drug lords.
Thanks. Interesting. I didn't know about the Dari|-n Gap. Now I know
I'll never be able to ride the Catrike to South America.
--
C'est bon
Soloman
On 12/31/2025 11:33 PM, John B. wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 09:07:28 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 12/31/2025 3:53 AM, John B. wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 02:16:52 -0500, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 20:51:02 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 16:51:02 -0500, Catrike RyderAs I see it, killing someone while they are strapped to a table is
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 07:04:35 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 07:50:51 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>
On 12/30/2025 4:10 AM, zen cycle wrote:
On 12/29/2025 11:11 PM, John B. wrote:
I read all the news about Beloved Leader all but invading >>>>>>>>>>> Venezuela
and claiming that the U.S. needs Greenland and assumed
that was just
Wonder Boy showing off.
Then I did a little research and it seems thata Venezuela >>>>>>>>>>> has the
world's highest proven crude oil reserves, almost
surpassing those of
Saudi Arabia and US combined and that Greenland isa widely >>>>>>>>>>> believed to
hold excellent potentials for a host of natural resources, >>>>>>>>>>> including
zinc, lead, gold, iron ore, heavy and light rare earth
elements,
copper as well as crude oil.
It might make one wonder whether drugs really is the problem. >>>>>>>>>>> --
There is no cause to wonder. Drugs are not the issue.
p.s. As I have mentioned here previously, from my direct
experience, every international flight at every airport all
day long every day carries contraband. The drug networks are >>>>>>>>> heavily invested in personnel among ground crews at both
ends and blowing up cigarette boing ts will not touch the big >>>>>>>>> end of the problem.
One solution is to ignore the blokes selling it and go after the guys >>>>>>>> buying it.
The users are just stupid. The traffickers are bad, but a dead
trafficker is a good trafficker.
But we've just had a discussion about how wrong the death penalty is. >>>>>
different from killing them while they are committing a crime to stop >>>>> them from completing the crime.
If we are talking bout the small boat sinking, alleged to be dope
boats. Has there been any proof that the were actually loaded with
drugs or this just what some said?
--
cheers,
John B.
Check the videos. The cargo is floating amid the debris.
Cocaine bales and chemical drums are very different from
spools of fishing net.
Cocaine bales? Got the big label "COCANE" right there on the side of
the bale too. Makes it easy to find when they get to port.
--
cheers,
John B.
You make the call:
https://merryjane.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/1570208740688_a1cokesqu.jpg
https://tinyurl.com/mw9n84c4
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 21:07:41 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Tue Dec 30 09:31:43 2025 Mark J cleary wrote:
Everyone wants to run Trump down but Obama did all the bad things but it >> was ok for him. Obama was presented differently by the party and the
public bought the bill of goods. Trump has his personality quirks but I
believe he genuinely wants a better America that what has been going on. >> The crazy open borders that simply allow anyone to come it is nuts. I
don't know about the rest of you but I have to vent people I don't know
before that come into my house. I do think US has been taken advantaged
of by other nations and that has to stop.
Germany had an entirely self contained currency so its value was what Hitler said it was. Evgeryone is employed in a war, Do not mistake reality for your imagination.I believe that President Trump really wants a better world and is bing opposed every inch of the way. The Slime Stream Media is fighting him every inch of the way EVEN when they know he is correct.
What would make the media and the Democrats say that Europe shouldn't pay their own way even when they can afford it? The Socialism that is so active in Europe is the same things that Hitler was promising! That Stalin murdered millions for. How is it that Europe learned nothing from that?
Well to give the Devil his due. When Hitler took over the German
government their money was nearly valueless and unemployment was
nation wide. He returned the value of the currency and got every one
a job.
On Wed Dec 31 21:40:26 2025 John B. wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 21:07:41 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Tue Dec 30 09:31:43 2025 Mark J cleary wrote:
Everyone wants to run Trump down but Obama did all the bad things but it >> >> was ok for him. Obama was presented differently by the party and the
public bought the bill of goods. Trump has his personality quirks but I >> >> believe he genuinely wants a better America that what has been going on. >> >> The crazy open borders that simply allow anyone to come it is nuts. I
don't know about the rest of you but I have to vent people I don't know >> >> before that come into my house. I do think US has been taken advantaged >> >> of by other nations and that has to stop.
I believe that President Trump really wants a better world and is bing opposed every inch of the way. The Slime Stream Media is fighting him every inch of the way EVEN when they know he is correct.
What would make the media and the Democrats say that Europe shouldn't pay their own way even when they can afford it? The Socialism that is so active in Europe is the same things that Hitler was promising! That Stalin murdered millions for. How is it that Europe learned nothing from that?
Well to give the Devil his due. When Hitler took over the German
government their money was nearly valueless and unemployment was
nation wide. He returned the value of the currency and got every one
a job.
Germany had an entirely self contained currency so its value was what Hitler said it was. Evgeryone is employed in a war, Do not mistake reality for your imagination.
On Thu, 01 Jan 2026 18:00:40 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Wed Dec 31 21:40:26 2025 John B. wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 21:07:41 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Tue Dec 30 09:31:43 2025 Mark J cleary wrote:
Everyone wants to run Trump down but Obama did all the bad things but it >>>>> was ok for him. Obama was presented differently by the party and the >>>>> public bought the bill of goods. Trump has his personality quirks but I >>>>> believe he genuinely wants a better America that what has been going on. >>>>> The crazy open borders that simply allow anyone to come it is nuts. I >>>>> don't know about the rest of you but I have to vent people I don't know >>>>> before that come into my house. I do think US has been taken advantaged >>>>> of by other nations and that has to stop.
I believe that President Trump really wants a better world and is bing opposed every inch of the way. The Slime Stream Media is fighting him every inch of the way EVEN when they know he is correct.
What would make the media and the Democrats say that Europe shouldn't pay their own way even when they can afford it? The Socialism that is so active in Europe is the same things that Hitler was promising! That Stalin murdered millions for. How is it that Europe learned nothing from that?
Well to give the Devil his due. When Hitler took over the German
government their money was nearly valueless and unemployment was
nation wide. He returned the value of the currency and got every one
a job.
Germany had an entirely self contained currency so its value was what Hitler said it was. Evgeryone is employed in a war, Do not mistake reality for your imagination.
Nope. Germany was exporting its hard currency to the allies in the
form of war reparations. The result was "hyperinflation". <https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/08/Img-Z121706-0001.jpg> However:
"Hyperinflation in the Weimar Republic" <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperinflation_in_the_Weimar_Republic> "Historians and economists are divided on the causes of this
hyperinflation, particularly the extent to which it was caused by
reparations payments."
Hitler became chancellor in 1934, when he was able to actually do
something to reduce inflation. However, between 1918 (end of WW1) and
1934 he did absolutely nothing to stabilize the currency, especially
between the global stock market crash in 1929 and 1934.
"Reichsmark"
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichsmark>
"The Reichsmark was the currency of Germany from 1924 until the fall
of Nazi Germany in 1945, and in the American, British and French
occupied zones of Germany, until 20 June 1948."
"The Reichsmark was introduced in 1924 as a permanent replacement for
the Papiermark. This was necessary due to the 1920s German inflation
which had reached its peak in 1923."
After 1934, Hitler was able to take control of the German central
bank.
"Reichsbank"
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichsbank#Nazi_period>
"The Nazi regime promptly put an end to the independence of the
Reichsbank and made it an instrument of their policy of directing
Germany's resources towards rearmament and military expansion."
He spent most of the bank's assets on military expansion. When
Germany initially seemed to be winning, Germany was able to borrow
money from various central banks, resulting in a substantial debt and corresponding additional inflation.
On 1/1/2026 12:30 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Thu, 01 Jan 2026 18:00:40 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
Hitler became chancellor in 1934, when he was able to actually do+1
something to reduce inflation. However, between 1918 (end of WW1) and
1934 he did absolutely nothing to stabilize the currency, especially
between the global stock market crash in 1929 and 1934.
"Reichsmark"
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichsmark>
"The Reichsmark was the currency of Germany from 1924 until the fall
of Nazi Germany in 1945, and in the American, British and French
occupied zones of Germany, until 20 June 1948."
"The Reichsmark was introduced in 1924 as a permanent replacement for
the Papiermark. This was necessary due to the 1920s German inflation
which had reached its peak in 1923."
After 1934, Hitler was able to take control of the German central
bank.
"Reichsbank"
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichsbank#Nazi_period>
"The Nazi regime promptly put an end to the independence of the
Reichsbank and made it an instrument of their policy of directing
Germany's resources towards rearmament and military expansion."
He spent most of the bank's assets on military expansion. When
Germany initially seemed to be winning, Germany was able to borrow
money from various central banks, resulting in a substantial debt and
corresponding additional inflation.
And the Jacobins seized the gold from the churches, which
gave the regime a temporary boost. Predictably (well, to an
economist anyway) that ended with bread riots.
On Thu, 01 Jan 2026 18:00:40 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>More stupid "The World As I See It" comments from Liebermann. Hitler was assigned as Chancellor in 1933. There was no inflation at that point because the USA had lent them the money until the crash abd depression. A blitheriug idiot could have seen that the Treaty of Versailles would instigate WW II but no one ever accused politicians as a group of being intellectual.
wrote:
On Wed Dec 31 21:40:26 2025 John B. wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 21:07:41 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Tue Dec 30 09:31:43 2025 Mark J cleary wrote:
Everyone wants to run Trump down but Obama did all the bad things but it
was ok for him. Obama was presented differently by the party and the
public bought the bill of goods. Trump has his personality quirks but I >> >> believe he genuinely wants a better America that what has been going on.
The crazy open borders that simply allow anyone to come it is nuts. I >> >> don't know about the rest of you but I have to vent people I don't know >> >> before that come into my house. I do think US has been taken advantaged >> >> of by other nations and that has to stop.
I believe that President Trump really wants a better world and is bing opposed every inch of the way. The Slime Stream Media is fighting him every inch of the way EVEN when they know he is correct.
What would make the media and the Democrats say that Europe shouldn't pay their own way even when they can afford it? The Socialism that is so active in Europe is the same things that Hitler was promising! That Stalin murdered millions for. How is it that Europe learned nothing from that?
Well to give the Devil his due. When Hitler took over the German
government their money was nearly valueless and unemployment was
nation wide. He returned the value of the currency and got every one
a job.
Germany had an entirely self contained currency so its value was what Hitler said it was. Evgeryone is employed in a war, Do not mistake reality for your imagination.
Nope. Germany was exporting its hard currency to the allies in the
form of war reparations. The result was "hyperinflation". <https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/08/Img-Z121706-0001.jpg> However:
"Hyperinflation in the Weimar Republic" <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperinflation_in_the_Weimar_Republic> "Historians and economists are divided on the causes of this
hyperinflation, particularly the extent to which it was caused by
reparations payments."
Hitler became chancellor in 1934, when he was able to actually do
something to reduce inflation. However, between 1918 (end of WW1) and
1934 he did absolutely nothing to stabilize the currency, especially
between the global stock market crash in 1929 and 1934.
"Reichsmark"
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichsmark>
"The Reichsmark was the currency of Germany from 1924 until the fall
of Nazi Germany in 1945, and in the American, British and French
occupied zones of Germany, until 20 June 1948."
"The Reichsmark was introduced in 1924 as a permanent replacement for
the Papiermark. This was necessary due to the 1920s German inflation
which had reached its peak in 1923."
After 1934, Hitler was able to take control of the German central
bank.
"Reichsbank"
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichsbank#Nazi_period>
"The Nazi regime promptly put an end to the independence of the
Reichsbank and made it an instrument of their policy of directing
Germany's resources towards rearmament and military expansion."
He spent most of the bank's assets on military expansion. When
Germany initially seemed to be winning, Germany was able to borrow
money from various central banks, resulting in a substantial debt and corresponding additional inflation.
On Thu Jan 1 10:30:38 2026 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Thu, 01 Jan 2026 18:00:40 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Wed Dec 31 21:40:26 2025 John B. wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 21:07:41 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Tue Dec 30 09:31:43 2025 Mark J cleary wrote:
Everyone wants to run Trump down but Obama did all the bad things but it >>>>>> was ok for him. Obama was presented differently by the party and the >>>>>> public bought the bill of goods. Trump has his personality quirks but I >>>>>> believe he genuinely wants a better America that what has been going on. >>>>>> The crazy open borders that simply allow anyone to come it is nuts. I >>>>>> don't know about the rest of you but I have to vent people I don't know >>>>>> before that come into my house. I do think US has been taken advantaged >>>>>> of by other nations and that has to stop.
I believe that President Trump really wants a better world and is bing opposed every inch of the way. The Slime Stream Media is fighting him every inch of the way EVEN when they know he is correct.
What would make the media and the Democrats say that Europe shouldn't pay their own way even when they can afford it? The Socialism that is so active in Europe is the same things that Hitler was promising! That Stalin murdered millions for. How is it that Europe learned nothing from that?
Well to give the Devil his due. When Hitler took over the German
government their money was nearly valueless and unemployment was
nation wide. He returned the value of the currency and got every one
a job.
Germany had an entirely self contained currency so its value was what Hitler said it was. Evgeryone is employed in a war, Do not mistake reality for your imagination.
Nope. Germany was exporting its hard currency to the allies in the
form of war reparations. The result was "hyperinflation".
<https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/08/Img-Z121706-0001.jpg> >> However:
"Hyperinflation in the Weimar Republic"
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperinflation_in_the_Weimar_Republic>
"Historians and economists are divided on the causes of this
hyperinflation, particularly the extent to which it was caused by
reparations payments."
Hitler became chancellor in 1934, when he was able to actually do
something to reduce inflation. However, between 1918 (end of WW1) and
1934 he did absolutely nothing to stabilize the currency, especially
between the global stock market crash in 1929 and 1934.
"Reichsmark"
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichsmark>
"The Reichsmark was the currency of Germany from 1924 until the fall
of Nazi Germany in 1945, and in the American, British and French
occupied zones of Germany, until 20 June 1948."
"The Reichsmark was introduced in 1924 as a permanent replacement for
the Papiermark. This was necessary due to the 1920s German inflation
which had reached its peak in 1923."
After 1934, Hitler was able to take control of the German central
bank.
"Reichsbank"
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichsbank#Nazi_period>
"The Nazi regime promptly put an end to the independence of the
Reichsbank and made it an instrument of their policy of directing
Germany's resources towards rearmament and military expansion."
He spent most of the bank's assets on military expansion. When
Germany initially seemed to be winning, Germany was able to borrow
money from various central banks, resulting in a substantial debt and
corresponding additional inflation.
More stupid "The World As I See It" comments from Liebermann. Hitler was assigned as Chancellor in 1933. There was no inflation at that point because the USA had lent them the money until the crash abd depression. A blitheriug idiot could have seen that the Treaty of Versailles would instigate WW II but no one ever accused politicians as a group of being intellectual.
Liebermann, what gives you the idea that you should inflict your ignorance upon thge world around you by cherry picking idiot literature. Wikipedia ius dying because it is written my people likie you. Give us some morfe of your stupid "fact checking"? Everything that I said and you "factg checked" as wrong was instead proven that I was right and you were the ignoramus. And yet you continue on as if reality is something you cannot fathom.
This is why no one wouold hire you. I can just see you now telling an interviewer that he doesn't know what he is talking about and expecting to be hired as some sort of Stephen Hawking.
On Thu Jan 1 10:30:38 2026 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Thu, 01 Jan 2026 18:00:40 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Wed Dec 31 21:40:26 2025 John B. wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 21:07:41 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Tue Dec 30 09:31:43 2025 Mark J cleary wrote:
Everyone wants to run Trump down but Obama did all the bad things but it
was ok for him. Obama was presented differently by the party and the >> >> >> public bought the bill of goods. Trump has his personality quirks but I
believe he genuinely wants a better America that what has been going on.
The crazy open borders that simply allow anyone to come it is nuts. I >> >> >> don't know about the rest of you but I have to vent people I don't know
before that come into my house. I do think US has been taken advantaged
of by other nations and that has to stop.
I believe that President Trump really wants a better world and is bing opposed every inch of the way. The Slime Stream Media is fighting him every inch of the way EVEN when they know he is correct.
What would make the media and the Democrats say that Europe shouldn't pay their own way even when they can afford it? The Socialism that is so active in Europe is the same things that Hitler was promising! That Stalin murdered millions for. How is it that Europe learned nothing from that?
Well to give the Devil his due. When Hitler took over the German
government their money was nearly valueless and unemployment was
nation wide. He returned the value of the currency and got every one
a job.
Germany had an entirely self contained currency so its value was what Hitler said it was. Evgeryone is employed in a war, Do not mistake reality for your imagination.
Nope. Germany was exporting its hard currency to the allies in the
form of war reparations. The result was "hyperinflation".
<https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/08/Img-Z121706-0001.jpg> >> However:
"Hyperinflation in the Weimar Republic"
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperinflation_in_the_Weimar_Republic>
"Historians and economists are divided on the causes of this
hyperinflation, particularly the extent to which it was caused by
reparations payments."
Hitler became chancellor in 1934, when he was able to actually do
something to reduce inflation. However, between 1918 (end of WW1) and
1934 he did absolutely nothing to stabilize the currency, especially
between the global stock market crash in 1929 and 1934.
"Reichsmark"
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichsmark>
"The Reichsmark was the currency of Germany from 1924 until the fall
of Nazi Germany in 1945, and in the American, British and French
occupied zones of Germany, until 20 June 1948."
"The Reichsmark was introduced in 1924 as a permanent replacement for
the Papiermark. This was necessary due to the 1920s German inflation
which had reached its peak in 1923."
After 1934, Hitler was able to take control of the German central
bank.
"Reichsbank"
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichsbank#Nazi_period>
"The Nazi regime promptly put an end to the independence of the
Reichsbank and made it an instrument of their policy of directing
Germany's resources towards rearmament and military expansion."
He spent most of the bank's assets on military expansion. When
Germany initially seemed to be winning, Germany was able to borrow
money from various central banks, resulting in a substantial debt and
corresponding additional inflation.
More stupid "The World As I See It" comments from Liebermann.
Hitler was assigned as Chancellor in 1933.
There was no inflation at that point
because the USA had lent them the money until the crash abd depression. A blitheriug idiot could have seen that the Treaty of Versailles would instigate WW II but no one ever accused politicians as a group of being intellectual.--
Liebermann, what gives you the idea that you should inflict your ignorance upon thge world around you by cherry picking idiot literature. Wikipedia ius dying because it is written my people likie you. Give us some morfe of your stupid "fact checking"? Everything that I said and you "factg checked" as wrong was instead proven that I was right and you were the ignoramus. And yet you continue on as if reality is something you cannot fathom.
This is why no one wouold hire you. I can just see you now telling an interviewer that he doesn't know what he is talking about and expecting to be hired as some sort of Stephen Hawking.
On Thu Jan 1 10:30:38 2026 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Thu, 01 Jan 2026 18:00:40 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Wed Dec 31 21:40:26 2025 John B. wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 21:07:41 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Tue Dec 30 09:31:43 2025 Mark J cleary wrote:
Everyone wants to run Trump down but Obama did all the bad things but it
was ok for him. Obama was presented differently by the party and the >> >> >> public bought the bill of goods. Trump has his personality quirks but I
believe he genuinely wants a better America that what has been going on.
The crazy open borders that simply allow anyone to come it is nuts. I >> >> >> don't know about the rest of you but I have to vent people I don't know
before that come into my house. I do think US has been taken advantaged
of by other nations and that has to stop.
I believe that President Trump really wants a better world and is bing opposed every inch of the way. The Slime Stream Media is fighting him every inch of the way EVEN when they know he is correct.
What would make the media and the Democrats say that Europe shouldn't pay their own way even when they can afford it? The Socialism that is so active in Europe is the same things that Hitler was promising! That Stalin murdered millions for. How is it that Europe learned nothing from that?
Well to give the Devil his due. When Hitler took over the German
government their money was nearly valueless and unemployment was
nation wide. He returned the value of the currency and got every one
a job.
Germany had an entirely self contained currency so its value was what Hitler said it was. Evgeryone is employed in a war, Do not mistake reality for your imagination.
Nope. Germany was exporting its hard currency to the allies in the
form of war reparations. The result was "hyperinflation".
<https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/08/Img-Z121706-0001.jpg> >> However:
"Hyperinflation in the Weimar Republic"
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperinflation_in_the_Weimar_Republic>
"Historians and economists are divided on the causes of this
hyperinflation, particularly the extent to which it was caused by
reparations payments."
Hitler became chancellor in 1934, when he was able to actually do
something to reduce inflation. However, between 1918 (end of WW1) and
1934 he did absolutely nothing to stabilize the currency, especially
between the global stock market crash in 1929 and 1934.
"Reichsmark"
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichsmark>
"The Reichsmark was the currency of Germany from 1924 until the fall
of Nazi Germany in 1945, and in the American, British and French
occupied zones of Germany, until 20 June 1948."
"The Reichsmark was introduced in 1924 as a permanent replacement for
the Papiermark. This was necessary due to the 1920s German inflation
which had reached its peak in 1923."
After 1934, Hitler was able to take control of the German central
bank.
"Reichsbank"
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichsbank#Nazi_period>
"The Nazi regime promptly put an end to the independence of the
Reichsbank and made it an instrument of their policy of directing
Germany's resources towards rearmament and military expansion."
He spent most of the bank's assets on military expansion. When
Germany initially seemed to be winning, Germany was able to borrow
money from various central banks, resulting in a substantial debt and
corresponding additional inflation.
More stupid "The World As I See It" comments from Liebermann. Hitler was assigned as Chancellor in 1933. There was no inflation at that point because the USA had lent them the money until the crash abd depression. A blitheriug idiot could have seen that the Treaty of Versailles would instigate WW II but no one ever accused politicians as a group of being intellectual.
Liebermann, what gives you the idea that you should inflict your ignorance upon thge world around you by cherry picking idiot literature. Wikipedia ius dying because it is written my people likie you. Give us some morfe of your stupid "fact checking"? Everything that I said and you "factg checked" as wrong was instead proven that I was right and you were the ignoramus. And yet you continue on as if reality is something you cannot fathom.--
This is why no one wouold hire you. I can just see you now telling an interviewer that he doesn't know what he is talking about and expecting to be hired as some sort of Stephen Hawking.
On Wed Dec 31 21:40:26 2025 John B. wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 21:07:41 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Tue Dec 30 09:31:43 2025 Mark J cleary wrote:
Everyone wants to run Trump down but Obama did all the bad things but it >> >> was ok for him. Obama was presented differently by the party and the
public bought the bill of goods. Trump has his personality quirks but I >> >> believe he genuinely wants a better America that what has been going on. >> >> The crazy open borders that simply allow anyone to come it is nuts. I
don't know about the rest of you but I have to vent people I don't know >> >> before that come into my house. I do think US has been taken advantaged >> >> of by other nations and that has to stop.
I believe that President Trump really wants a better world and is bing opposed every inch of the way. The Slime Stream Media is fighting him every inch of the way EVEN when they know he is correct.
What would make the media and the Democrats say that Europe shouldn't pay their own way even when they can afford it? The Socialism that is so active in Europe is the same things that Hitler was promising! That Stalin murdered millions for. How is it that Europe learned nothing from that?
Well to give the Devil his due. When Hitler took over the German
government their money was nearly valueless and unemployment was
nation wide. He returned the value of the currency and got every one
a job.
Germany had an entirely self c ontained currency so its value was what Hitler said it was. Evgeryone is employed in a war, Do not mistake reality for your imagination.
On 1/1/2026 2:04 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Thu Jan 1 10:30:38 2026 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Thu, 01 Jan 2026 18:00:40 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Wed Dec 31 21:40:26 2025 John B. wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 21:07:41 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Tue Dec 30 09:31:43 2025 Mark J cleary wrote:
Everyone wants to run Trump down but Obama did all the bad things but it
was ok for him. Obama was presented differently by the party and the >>>>>> public bought the bill of goods. Trump has his personality quirks but I
believe he genuinely wants a better America that what has been going on.
The crazy open borders that simply allow anyone to come it is nuts. I >>>>>> don't know about the rest of you but I have to vent people I don't know
before that come into my house. I do think US has been taken advantaged
of by other nations and that has to stop.
I believe that President Trump really wants a better world and is bing opposed every inch of the way. The Slime Stream Media is fighting him every inch of the way EVEN when they know he is correct.
What would make the media and the Democrats say that Europe shouldn't pay their own way even when they can afford it? The Socialism that is so active in Europe is the same things that Hitler was promising! That Stalin murdered millions for. How is it that Europe learned nothing from that?
Well to give the Devil his due. When Hitler took over the German
government their money was nearly valueless and unemployment was
nation wide. He returned the value of the currency and got every one >>>> a job.
Germany had an entirely self contained currency so its value was what Hitler said it was. Evgeryone is employed in a war, Do not mistake reality for your imagination.
Nope. Germany was exporting its hard currency to the allies in the
form of war reparations. The result was "hyperinflation".
<https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/08/Img-Z121706-0001.jpg> >> However:
"Hyperinflation in the Weimar Republic"
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperinflation_in_the_Weimar_Republic>
"Historians and economists are divided on the causes of this
hyperinflation, particularly the extent to which it was caused by
reparations payments."
Hitler became chancellor in 1934, when he was able to actually do
something to reduce inflation. However, between 1918 (end of WW1) and
1934 he did absolutely nothing to stabilize the currency, especially
between the global stock market crash in 1929 and 1934.
"Reichsmark"
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichsmark>
"The Reichsmark was the currency of Germany from 1924 until the fall
of Nazi Germany in 1945, and in the American, British and French
occupied zones of Germany, until 20 June 1948."
"The Reichsmark was introduced in 1924 as a permanent replacement for
the Papiermark. This was necessary due to the 1920s German inflation
which had reached its peak in 1923."
After 1934, Hitler was able to take control of the German central
bank.
"Reichsbank"
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichsbank#Nazi_period>
"The Nazi regime promptly put an end to the independence of the
Reichsbank and made it an instrument of their policy of directing
Germany's resources towards rearmament and military expansion."
He spent most of the bank's assets on military expansion. When
Germany initially seemed to be winning, Germany was able to borrow
money from various central banks, resulting in a substantial debt and
corresponding additional inflation.
The German people were extremely upset by the treaty of Versilles which forced them to pay for all of the damages of WW I. ANYONE with half a brain could have predicted the rise of someone like Hitler. THAT is why General MacArther treated the Japanese people so well. As did Eisenhower with west Germany. In that manner, the East Germans saw the west as freedom and Democrasy,More stupid "The World As I See It" comments from Liebermann. Hitler was assigned as Chancellor in 1933. There was no inflation at that point because the USA had lent them the money until the crash abd depression. A blitheriug idiot could have seen that the Treaty of Versailles would instigate WW II but no one ever accused politicians as a group of being intellectual.
Liebermann, what gives you the idea that you should inflict your ignorance upon thge world around you by cherry picking idiot literature. Wikipedia ius dying because it is written my people likie you. Give us some morfe of your stupid "fact checking"? Everything that I said and you "factg checked" as wrong was instead proven that I was right and you were the ignoramus. And yet you continue on as if reality is something you cannot fathom.
This is why no one wouold hire you. I can just see you now telling an interviewer that he doesn't know what he is talking about and expecting to be hired as some sort of Stephen Hawking.
German inflation was devastating between 1919 and 1933, one
of the prime reasons the National Socialist Party did well
in 1933, promising to end it.
https://worldhistoryjournal.com/2025/04/09/history-of-hyperinflation-and-the-crash-of-german-mark/
On Thu Jan 1 14:53:32 2026 AMuzi wrote:
On 1/1/2026 2:04 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Thu Jan 1 10:30:38 2026 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Thu, 01 Jan 2026 18:00:40 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Wed Dec 31 21:40:26 2025 John B. wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 21:07:41 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Tue Dec 30 09:31:43 2025 Mark J cleary wrote:
Everyone wants to run Trump down but Obama did all the bad things but it
was ok for him. Obama was presented differently by the party and the >>>>>>>> public bought the bill of goods. Trump has his personality quirks but I
believe he genuinely wants a better America that what has been going on.
The crazy open borders that simply allow anyone to come it is nuts. I >>>>>>>> don't know about the rest of you but I have to vent people I don't know
before that come into my house. I do think US has been taken advantaged
of by other nations and that has to stop.
I believe that President Trump really wants a better world and is bing opposed every inch of the way. The Slime Stream Media is fighting him every inch of the way EVEN when they know he is correct.
What would make the media and the Democrats say that Europe shouldn't pay their own way even when they can afford it? The Socialism that is so active in Europe is the same things that Hitler was promising! That Stalin murdered millions for. How is it that Europe learned nothing from that?
Well to give the Devil his due. When Hitler took over the German
government their money was nearly valueless and unemployment was
nation wide. He returned the value of the currency and got every one >>>>>> a job.
Germany had an entirely self contained currency so its value was what Hitler said it was. Evgeryone is employed in a war, Do not mistake reality for your imagination.
Nope. Germany was exporting its hard currency to the allies in the
form of war reparations. The result was "hyperinflation".
<https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/08/Img-Z121706-0001.jpg> >>>> However:
"Hyperinflation in the Weimar Republic"
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperinflation_in_the_Weimar_Republic>
"Historians and economists are divided on the causes of this
hyperinflation, particularly the extent to which it was caused by
reparations payments."
Hitler became chancellor in 1934, when he was able to actually do
something to reduce inflation. However, between 1918 (end of WW1) and >>>> 1934 he did absolutely nothing to stabilize the currency, especially
between the global stock market crash in 1929 and 1934.
"Reichsmark"
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichsmark>
"The Reichsmark was the currency of Germany from 1924 until the fall
of Nazi Germany in 1945, and in the American, British and French
occupied zones of Germany, until 20 June 1948."
"The Reichsmark was introduced in 1924 as a permanent replacement for
the Papiermark. This was necessary due to the 1920s German inflation
which had reached its peak in 1923."
After 1934, Hitler was able to take control of the German central
bank.
"Reichsbank"
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichsbank#Nazi_period>
"The Nazi regime promptly put an end to the independence of the
Reichsbank and made it an instrument of their policy of directing
Germany's resources towards rearmament and military expansion."
He spent most of the bank's assets on military expansion. When
Germany initially seemed to be winning, Germany was able to borrow
money from various central banks, resulting in a substantial debt and
corresponding additional inflation.
More stupid "The World As I See It" comments from Liebermann. Hitler was assigned as Chancellor in 1933. There was no inflation at that point because the USA had lent them the money until the crash abd depression. A blitheriug idiot could have seen that the Treaty of Versailles would instigate WW II but no one ever accused politicians as a group of being intellectual.
Liebermann, what gives you the idea that you should inflict your ignorance upon thge world around you by cherry picking idiot literature. Wikipedia ius dying because it is written my people likie you. Give us some morfe of your stupid "fact checking"? Everything that I said and you "factg checked" as wrong was instead proven that I was right and you were the ignoramus. And yet you continue on as if reality is something you cannot fathom.
This is why no one wouold hire you. I can just see you now telling an interviewer that he doesn't know what he is talking about and expecting to be hired as some sort of Stephen Hawking.
German inflation was devastating between 1919 and 1933, one
of the prime reasons the National Socialist Party did well
in 1933, promising to end it.
https://worldhistoryjournal.com/2025/04/09/history-of-hyperinflation-and-the-crash-of-german-mark/
The German people were extremely upset by the treaty of Versilles which forced them to pay for all of the damages of WW I. ANYONE with half a brain could have predicted the rise of someone like Hitler. THAT is why General MacArther treated the Japanese people so well. As did Eisenhower with west Germany. In that manner, the East Germans saw the west as freedom and Democrasy,
On 1/2/2026 2:50 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Thu Jan 1 14:53:32 2026 AMuzi wrote:
On 1/1/2026 2:04 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Thu Jan 1 10:30:38 2026 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Thu, 01 Jan 2026 18:00:40 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Wed Dec 31 21:40:26 2025 John B. wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 21:07:41 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> >>>>>>> wrote:
On Tue Dec 30 09:31:43 2025 Mark J cleary wrote:
Everyone wants to run Trump down but Obama did all the bad things but it
was ok for him. Obama was presented differently by the party and the >>>>>>>>> public bought the bill of goods. Trump has his personality quirks but I
believe he genuinely wants a better America that what has been going on.
The crazy open borders that simply allow anyone to come it is nuts. I >>>>>>>>> don't know about the rest of you but I have to vent people I don't know
before that come into my house. I do think US has been taken advantaged
of by other nations and that has to stop.
I believe that President Trump really wants a better world and is >>>>>>>> bing opposed every inch of the way. The Slime Stream Media is
fighting him every inch of the way EVEN when they know he is correct. >>>>>>>>
What would make the media and the Democrats say that Europe
shouldn't pay their own way even when they can afford it? The
Socialism that is so active in Europe is the same things that
Hitler was promising! That Stalin murdered millions for. How is it >>>>>>>> that Europe learned nothing from that?
Well to give the Devil his due. When Hitler took over the German >>>>>>> government their money was nearly valueless and unemployment was >>>>>>> nation wide. He returned the value of the currency and got every one >>>>>>> a job.
Germany had an entirely self contained currency so its value was
what Hitler said it was. Evgeryone is employed in a war, Do not
mistake reality for your imagination.
Nope. Germany was exporting its hard currency to the allies in the
form of war reparations. The result was "hyperinflation".
<https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/08/Img-Z121706-0001.jpg>
However:
"Hyperinflation in the Weimar Republic"
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperinflation_in_the_Weimar_Republic> >>>>> "Historians and economists are divided on the causes of this
hyperinflation, particularly the extent to which it was caused by
reparations payments."
Hitler became chancellor in 1934, when he was able to actually do
something to reduce inflation. However, between 1918 (end of WW1) and >>>>> 1934 he did absolutely nothing to stabilize the currency, especially >>>>> between the global stock market crash in 1929 and 1934.
"Reichsmark"
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichsmark>
"The Reichsmark was the currency of Germany from 1924 until the fall >>>>> of Nazi Germany in 1945, and in the American, British and French
occupied zones of Germany, until 20 June 1948."
"The Reichsmark was introduced in 1924 as a permanent replacement for >>>>> the Papiermark. This was necessary due to the 1920s German inflation >>>>> which had reached its peak in 1923."
After 1934, Hitler was able to take control of the German central
bank.
"Reichsbank"
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichsbank#Nazi_period>
"The Nazi regime promptly put an end to the independence of the
Reichsbank and made it an instrument of their policy of directing
Germany's resources towards rearmament and military expansion."
He spent most of the bank's assets on military expansion. When
Germany initially seemed to be winning, Germany was able to borrow
money from various central banks, resulting in a substantial debt and >>>>> corresponding additional inflation.
More stupid "The World As I See It" comments from Liebermann. Hitler
was assigned as Chancellor in 1933. There was no inflation at that
point because the USA had lent them the money until the crash abd
depression. A blitheriug idiot could have seen that the Treaty of
Versailles would instigate WW II but no one ever accused politicians
as a group of being intellectual.
Liebermann, what gives you the idea that you should inflict your
ignorance upon thge world around you by cherry picking idiot
literature. Wikipedia ius dying because it is written my people likie
you. Give us some morfe of your stupid "fact checking"? Everything
that I said and you "factg checked" as wrong was instead proven that I >>>> was right and you were the ignoramus. And yet you continue on as if
reality is something you cannot fathom.
This is why no one wouold hire you. I can just see you now telling an
interviewer that he doesn't know what he is talking about and
expecting to be hired as some sort of Stephen Hawking.
German inflation was devastating between 1919 and 1933, one
of the prime reasons the National Socialist Party did well
in 1933, promising to end it.
https://worldhistoryjournal.com/2025/04/09/history-of-hyperinflation-and-the-crash-of-german-mark/
The German people were extremely upset by the treaty of Versilles which
forced them to pay for all of the damages of WW I. ANYONE with half a
brain could have predicted the rise of someone like Hitler. THAT is why
General MacArther treated the Japanese people so well. As did Eisenhower
with west Germany. In that manner, the East Germans saw the west as freedom and Democrasy,
Postwar terms were predictably and reasonably sever to all
the Central Powers:
https://www.historyfromonestudenttoanother.com/as-level-international-history-1870-1945/the-league-of-nations-and-international-relations-in-the-1920s/why-was-there-dissatisfaction-with-the-peace-settlements-of-1919-1920/reparations
Penultimate line on that page:
" Germany had to pay the highest reparations of -u6.6
billion. This horrified the German representatives and
argued that Germany was in no position to pay this as the
war resulted into their economyrCOs devastation."
The Ottomans, conversely, suffered large territorial losses,
infringements of sovereignty and general subjugation but not
the sort of future monetary damages inflicted on Germany:
https://www.loc.gov/collections/world-war-i-rotogravures/articles-and-essays/events-and-statistics/armistice-terms/
N.B. I am not taking any position on the Armistice nor
Treaty. I probably would have been no less punitive at the
time than the authors. But the above is what actually happened.
AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 1/2/2026 2:50 PM, cyclintom wrote:IAd note that post 2nd world war a different tactic was taken, quite apart >from the fact that Germany and Japan and to a lesser extent Italy had there >industry and infrastructure shattered, quite apart from any capital left,
On Thu Jan 1 14:53:32 2026 AMuzi wrote:
On 1/1/2026 2:04 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Thu Jan 1 10:30:38 2026 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Thu, 01 Jan 2026 18:00:40 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Wed Dec 31 21:40:26 2025 John B. wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 21:07:41 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> >>>>>>>> wrote:
On Tue Dec 30 09:31:43 2025 Mark J cleary wrote:
Everyone wants to run Trump down but Obama did all the bad things but it
was ok for him. Obama was presented differently by the party and the >>>>>>>>>> public bought the bill of goods. Trump has his personality quirks but I
believe he genuinely wants a better America that what has been going on.
The crazy open borders that simply allow anyone to come it is nuts. I
don't know about the rest of you but I have to vent people I don't know
before that come into my house. I do think US has been taken advantaged
of by other nations and that has to stop.
I believe that President Trump really wants a better world and is >>>>>>>>> bing opposed every inch of the way. The Slime Stream Media is >>>>>>>>> fighting him every inch of the way EVEN when they know he is correct. >>>>>>>>>
What would make the media and the Democrats say that Europe
shouldn't pay their own way even when they can afford it? The >>>>>>>>> Socialism that is so active in Europe is the same things that >>>>>>>>> Hitler was promising! That Stalin murdered millions for. How is it >>>>>>>>> that Europe learned nothing from that?
Well to give the Devil his due. When Hitler took over the German >>>>>>>> government their money was nearly valueless and unemployment was >>>>>>>> nation wide. He returned the value of the currency and got every one >>>>>>>> a job.
Germany had an entirely self contained currency so its value was >>>>>>> what Hitler said it was. Evgeryone is employed in a war, Do not
mistake reality for your imagination.
Nope. Germany was exporting its hard currency to the allies in the >>>>>> form of war reparations. The result was "hyperinflation".
<https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/08/Img-Z121706-0001.jpg>
However:
"Hyperinflation in the Weimar Republic"
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperinflation_in_the_Weimar_Republic> >>>>>> "Historians and economists are divided on the causes of this
hyperinflation, particularly the extent to which it was caused by
reparations payments."
Hitler became chancellor in 1934, when he was able to actually do
something to reduce inflation. However, between 1918 (end of WW1) and >>>>>> 1934 he did absolutely nothing to stabilize the currency, especially >>>>>> between the global stock market crash in 1929 and 1934.
"Reichsmark"
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichsmark>
"The Reichsmark was the currency of Germany from 1924 until the fall >>>>>> of Nazi Germany in 1945, and in the American, British and French
occupied zones of Germany, until 20 June 1948."
"The Reichsmark was introduced in 1924 as a permanent replacement for >>>>>> the Papiermark. This was necessary due to the 1920s German inflation >>>>>> which had reached its peak in 1923."
After 1934, Hitler was able to take control of the German central
bank.
"Reichsbank"
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichsbank#Nazi_period>
"The Nazi regime promptly put an end to the independence of the
Reichsbank and made it an instrument of their policy of directing
Germany's resources towards rearmament and military expansion."
He spent most of the bank's assets on military expansion. When
Germany initially seemed to be winning, Germany was able to borrow >>>>>> money from various central banks, resulting in a substantial debt and >>>>>> corresponding additional inflation.
More stupid "The World As I See It" comments from Liebermann. Hitler >>>>> was assigned as Chancellor in 1933. There was no inflation at that
point because the USA had lent them the money until the crash abd
depression. A blitheriug idiot could have seen that the Treaty of
Versailles would instigate WW II but no one ever accused politicians >>>>> as a group of being intellectual.
Liebermann, what gives you the idea that you should inflict your
ignorance upon thge world around you by cherry picking idiot
literature. Wikipedia ius dying because it is written my people likie >>>>> you. Give us some morfe of your stupid "fact checking"? Everything
that I said and you "factg checked" as wrong was instead proven that I >>>>> was right and you were the ignoramus. And yet you continue on as if
reality is something you cannot fathom.
This is why no one wouold hire you. I can just see you now telling an >>>>> interviewer that he doesn't know what he is talking about and
expecting to be hired as some sort of Stephen Hawking.
German inflation was devastating between 1919 and 1933, one
of the prime reasons the National Socialist Party did well
in 1933, promising to end it.
https://worldhistoryjournal.com/2025/04/09/history-of-hyperinflation-and-the-crash-of-german-mark/
The German people were extremely upset by the treaty of Versilles which
forced them to pay for all of the damages of WW I. ANYONE with half a
brain could have predicted the rise of someone like Hitler. THAT is why
General MacArther treated the Japanese people so well. As did Eisenhower >>> with west Germany. In that manner, the East Germans saw the west as freedom and Democrasy,
Postwar terms were predictably and reasonably sever to all
the Central Powers:
https://www.historyfromonestudenttoanother.com/as-level-international-history-1870-1945/the-league-of-nations-and-international-relations-in-the-1920s/why-was-there-dissatisfaction-with-the-peace-settlements-of-1919-1920/reparations
Penultimate line on that page:
" Germany had to pay the highest reparations of u6.6
billion. This horrified the German representatives and
argued that Germany was in no position to pay this as the
war resulted into their economyAs devastation."
The Ottomans, conversely, suffered large territorial losses,
infringements of sovereignty and general subjugation but not
the sort of future monetary damages inflicted on Germany:
https://www.loc.gov/collections/world-war-i-rotogravures/articles-and-essays/events-and-statistics/armistice-terms/
N.B. I am not taking any position on the Armistice nor
Treaty. I probably would have been no less punitive at the
time than the authors. But the above is what actually happened.
as aside the fact that the UK infrastructure remained largely intact was
why we had a 2nd age of the steam trains in the 50As.
Roger Merriman
On 12/31/2025 1:21 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 09:12:51 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
(chomp)
A cigarette boat is utterly different in marine architecture
and the multiple high-HP engines are very thirsty.-a-a Which
is fine for that business because contraband operating
margins are much higher than fishing operations enjoy.
If the sea was fairly calm, a hydrofoil "recreational" boat might be
worth considering:
<https://www.google.com/search?q=recreational%20hydrofoil%20boat&udm=2>
Without the drag from the hull, the improvement in fuel efficiency is
spectacular.
<https://candela.com/blog/foiling-vs-floating-understanding-the-
differences-between-hydrofoil-boats-and-other-boats/>
"Foil boats achieve higher speeds and superior performance relative to
engine power, even in choppy waters, due to efficiency. By reducing
air and water resistance by up to 80%, hydrofoils enable faster speeds
and enhance stability against wave action."
Maybe someone here will forward that to Pablo Escobar's successors.
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 09:13:50 -0500, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 04:37:29 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 05:09:40 -0500, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 01:53:08 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 02:16:52 -0500, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 20:51:02 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 16:51:02 -0500, Catrike RyderAs I see it, killing someone while they are strapped to a table is >>>>>> different from killing them while they are committing a crime to stop >>>>>> them from completing the crime.
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 07:04:35 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 07:50:51 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 12/30/2025 4:10 AM, zen cycle wrote:
On 12/29/2025 11:11 PM, John B. wrote:
I read all the news about Beloved Leader all but invading >>>>>>>>>>>> Venezuela
and claiming that the U.S. needs Greenland and assumed >>>>>>>>>>>> that was just
Wonder Boy showing off.
Then I did a little research and it seems that-a Venezuela >>>>>>>>>>>> has the
world's highest proven crude oil reserves, almost
surpassing those of
Saudi Arabia and US combined and that Greenland is-a widely >>>>>>>>>>>> believed to
hold excellent potentials for a host of natural resources, >>>>>>>>>>>> including
zinc, lead, gold, iron ore, heavy and light rare earth >>>>>>>>>>>> elements,
copper as well as crude oil.
It might make one wonder whether drugs really is the problem. >>>>>>>>>>>> --
There is no cause to wonder. Drugs are not the issue.
p.s. As I have mentioned here previously, from my direct
experience, every international flight at every airport all >>>>>>>>>> day long every day carries contraband. The drug networks are >>>>>>>>>> heavily invested in personnel among ground crews at both
ends and blowing up cigarette boing ts will not touch the big >>>>>>>>>> end of the problem.
One solution is to ignore the blokes selling it and go after the guys >>>>>>>>> buying it.
The users are just stupid. The traffickers are bad, but a dead >>>>>>>> trafficker is a good trafficker.
But we've just had a discussion about how wrong the death penalty is. >>>>>>
If we are talking bout the small boat sinking, alleged to be dope
boats. Has there been any proof that the were actually loaded with
drugs or this just what some said?
Pictures show them loaded with small packages.
Lack of any kind of fishing equipment.
High speed travel for long distances across open water
What else can it be?
Get real!
Years ago raising poppies in N.W. Thailand was the maim money crop in
some areas and I can assure they they didn't.transport the product it
in cute little boxes, it was in kilo or multi kilo bags.
Much like what could be seen in the boats just before they got blown
up.
As for high speed over long distances, why? It takes a lot of fuel.
Indeed, but that's what they were doing when they got blown up.
Why not a, 60 ft fishing boat with the nets hanging over the deck and
a couple of guys working on them?
That's not the kinds of boats that were targeted.
Well, see. It is some 2,972.82 miles from Venezuela to the U.S. Tell
us more about these small boats with the little boxes on them.
Are these boats travel between Venezuela and the U.S.? Or to some
foreign country that Fearless Leader is sinking.
Or perhaps not so fearless as it is said that he used fake medical
status to evade being drafted... heal splint, cant walk https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2019/02/27/trumps-lawyer-no-basis-for-presidents-medical-deferment-from-vietnam/
And what is happening with these tankers that the U.S. is grabbing?
Are they selling the oil?
--
cheers,
John B.
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 14:46:25 -0600, Mark J cleary
<mcleary08@comcast.net> wrote:
On 12/31/2025 9:07 AM, AMuzi wrote:
On 12/31/2025 3:53 AM, John B. wrote:None of these boats on a fishing expedition they are running drugs
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 02:16:52 -0500, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 20:51:02 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 16:51:02 -0500, Catrike RyderAs I see it, killing someone while they are strapped to a table is
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 07:04:35 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 07:50:51 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> >>>>>>>> wrote:
On 12/30/2025 4:10 AM, zen cycle wrote:
On 12/29/2025 11:11 PM, John B. wrote:
I read all the news about Beloved Leader all but invading >>>>>>>>>>> Venezuela
and claiming that the U.S. needs Greenland and assumed
that was just
Wonder Boy showing off.
Then I did a little research and it seems that-a Venezuela >>>>>>>>>>> has the
world's highest proven crude oil reserves, almost
surpassing those of
Saudi Arabia and US combined and that Greenland is-a widely >>>>>>>>>>> believed to
hold excellent potentials for a host of natural resources, >>>>>>>>>>> including
zinc, lead, gold, iron ore, heavy and light rare earth
elements,
copper as well as crude oil.
It might make one wonder whether drugs really is the problem. >>>>>>>>>>> --
There is no cause to wonder. Drugs are not the issue.
p.s. As I have mentioned here previously, from my direct
experience, every international flight at every airport all
day long every day carries contraband. The drug networks are >>>>>>>>> heavily invested in personnel among ground crews at both
ends and blowing up cigarette boing ts will not touch the big >>>>>>>>> end of the problem.
One solution is to ignore the blokes selling it and go after the guys >>>>>>>> buying it.
The users are just stupid. The traffickers are bad, but a dead
trafficker is a good trafficker.
But we've just had a discussion about how wrong the death penalty is. >>>>>
different from killing them while they are committing a crime to stop >>>>> them from completing the crime.
If we are talking bout the small boat sinking, alleged to be dope
boats. Has there been any proof that the were actually loaded with
drugs or this just what some said?
--
cheers,
John B.
Check the videos.-a The cargo is floating amid the debris. Cocaine bales >>> and chemical drums are very different from spools of fishing net.
period. Nothing more and nothing more dangerous to others.
Is there any proof that the boats are actually carrying dope? Or is it
a matter of "every one knows"?
On Thu, 1 Jan 2026 07:28:30 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 12/31/2025 11:33 PM, John B. wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 09:07:28 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 12/31/2025 3:53 AM, John B. wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 02:16:52 -0500, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 20:51:02 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 16:51:02 -0500, Catrike RyderAs I see it, killing someone while they are strapped to a table is >>>>>> different from killing them while they are committing a crime to stop >>>>>> them from completing the crime.
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 07:04:35 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 07:50:51 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 12/30/2025 4:10 AM, zen cycle wrote:
On 12/29/2025 11:11 PM, John B. wrote:
I read all the news about Beloved Leader all but invading >>>>>>>>>>>> Venezuela
and claiming that the U.S. needs Greenland and assumed >>>>>>>>>>>> that was just
Wonder Boy showing off.
Then I did a little research and it seems that-a Venezuela >>>>>>>>>>>> has the
world's highest proven crude oil reserves, almost
surpassing those of
Saudi Arabia and US combined and that Greenland is-a widely >>>>>>>>>>>> believed to
hold excellent potentials for a host of natural resources, >>>>>>>>>>>> including
zinc, lead, gold, iron ore, heavy and light rare earth >>>>>>>>>>>> elements,
copper as well as crude oil.
It might make one wonder whether drugs really is the problem. >>>>>>>>>>>> --
There is no cause to wonder. Drugs are not the issue.
p.s. As I have mentioned here previously, from my direct
experience, every international flight at every airport all >>>>>>>>>> day long every day carries contraband. The drug networks are >>>>>>>>>> heavily invested in personnel among ground crews at both
ends and blowing up cigarette boing ts will not touch the big >>>>>>>>>> end of the problem.
One solution is to ignore the blokes selling it and go after the guys >>>>>>>>> buying it.
The users are just stupid. The traffickers are bad, but a dead >>>>>>>> trafficker is a good trafficker.
But we've just had a discussion about how wrong the death penalty is. >>>>>>
If we are talking bout the small boat sinking, alleged to be dope
boats. Has there been any proof that the were actually loaded with
drugs or this just what some said?
--
cheers,
John B.
Check the videos. The cargo is floating amid the debris.
Cocaine bales and chemical drums are very different from
spools of fishing net.
Cocaine bales? Got the big label "COCANE" right there on the side of
the bale too. Makes it easy to find when they get to port.
--
cheers,
John B.
You make the call:
https://merryjane.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/1570208740688_a1cokesqu.jpg >>
https://tinyurl.com/mw9n84c4
Reference shows some boxes in the water. No indication what's in the
boxes.
Reference shows something that might be part of a boat or something
else.
Nether gives any indication that it is dope.
--
cheers,
John B.
On 12/31/2025 4:01 AM, John B. wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 02:16:52 -0500, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 20:51:02 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 16:51:02 -0500, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 07:04:35 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 07:50:51 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org>
wrote:
On 12/30/2025 4:10 AM, zen cycle wrote:
On 12/29/2025 11:11 PM, John B. wrote:
I read all the news about Beloved Leader all but invading
Venezuela
and claiming that the U.S. needs Greenland and assumed
that was just
Wonder Boy showing off.
Then I did a little research and it seems that-a Venezuela
has the
world's highest proven crude oil reserves, almost
surpassing those of
Saudi Arabia and US combined and that Greenland is-a widely
believed to
hold excellent potentials for a host of natural resources,
including
zinc, lead, gold, iron ore, heavy and light rare earth
elements,
copper as well as crude oil.
It might make one wonder whether drugs really is the problem. >>>>>>>>> --
There is no cause to wonder. Drugs are not the issue.
p.s. As I have mentioned here previously, from my direct
experience, every international flight at every airport all
day long every day carries contraband. The drug networks are
heavily invested in personnel among ground crews at both
ends and blowing up cigarette boing ts will not touch the big
end of the problem.
One solution is to ignore the blokes selling it and go after the guys >>>>>> buying it.
The users are just stupid. The traffickers are bad, but a dead
trafficker is a good trafficker.
But we've just had a discussion about how wrong the death penalty is.
As I see it, killing someone while they are strapped to a table is
different from killing them while they are committing a crime to stop
them from completing the crime.
I like it. Lets be sure all the Police are informed, "don't arrest
them, just shoot them."
--
cheers,
John B.
Oh, don't be obtuse.
In the moment, violence in defense of human life, yours or others, is
just and proper and well well established everywhere, always, in every culture and era.
On 12/31/2025 3:09 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Tue Dec 30 05:10:46 2025 zen cycle-a wrote:
There is no cause to wonder. Drugs are not the issue.
Meaning I suspect that you're on drugs.
On 12/30/2025 8:17 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 07:45:11 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 12/29/2025 10:11 PM, John B. wrote:
I read all the news about Beloved Leader all but invading Venezuela
and claiming that the U.S. needs Greenland and assumed that was just
Wonder Boy showing off.
Then I did a little research and it seems that-a Venezuela has the
world's highest proven crude oil reserves, almost surpassing those of
Saudi Arabia and US combined and that Greenland is-a widely believed to >>>> hold excellent potentials for a host of natural resources, including
zinc, lead, gold, iron ore, heavy and light rare earth elements,
copper as well as crude oil.
It might make one wonder whether drugs really is the problem.
--
cheers,
John B.
I was OK with enforcing sanctions of long (2005) standing of
oil transport in open waters but the drone bombing of docks
is an act of war, which seems to me a step too far.-a We'll
see...
Nothing new here....
Obama launched airstrikes or military raids in at least seven
countries: Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Yemen, Somalia and
Pakistan.
--
C'est bon
Soloman
So did Mr Clinton. The rules are different for the democrat party.
On 12/31/2025 1:16 AM, floriduh dumbass wrote:And again, the right-wing patsy revisionist history rears it's ignorant
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 20:51:14 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 09:17:16 -0500, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 07:45:11 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote: >>>>
On 12/29/2025 10:11 PM, John B. wrote:
I read all the news about Beloved Leader all but invading Venezuela >>>>>> and claiming that the U.S. needs Greenland and assumed that was just >>>>>> Wonder Boy showing off.
Then I did a little research and it seems that-a Venezuela has the >>>>>> world's highest proven crude oil reserves, almost surpassing those of >>>>>> Saudi Arabia and US combined and that Greenland is-a widely
believed to
hold excellent potentials for a host of natural resources, including >>>>>> zinc, lead, gold, iron ore, heavy and light rare earth elements,
copper as well as crude oil.
It might make one wonder whether drugs really is the problem.
--
cheers,
John B.
I was OK with enforcing sanctions of long (2005) standing of
oil transport in open waters but the drone bombing of docks
is an act of war, which seems to me a step too far.-a We'll
see...
Nothing new here....
Obama launched airstrikes or military raids in at least seven
countries: Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Yemen, Somalia and
Pakistan.
And accompliahed?
Killed a lot of women and children...
On 12/30/2025 8:21 AM, AMuzi wrote:
On 12/30/2025 8:17 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:Everyone wants to run Trump down but Obama did all the bad things but it
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 07:45:11 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 12/29/2025 10:11 PM, John B. wrote:
I read all the news about Beloved Leader all but invading Venezuela
and claiming that the U.S. needs Greenland and assumed that was just >>>>> Wonder Boy showing off.
Then I did a little research and it seems that-a Venezuela has the
world's highest proven crude oil reserves, almost surpassing those of >>>>> Saudi Arabia and US combined and that Greenland is-a widely believed to >>>>> hold excellent potentials for a host of natural resources, including >>>>> zinc, lead, gold, iron ore, heavy and light rare earth elements,
copper as well as crude oil.
It might make one wonder whether drugs really is the problem.
--
cheers,
John B.
I was OK with enforcing sanctions of long (2005) standing of
oil transport in open waters but the drone bombing of docks
is an act of war, which seems to me a step too far.-a We'll
see...
Nothing new here....
Obama launched airstrikes or military raids in at least seven
countries: Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Yemen, Somalia and
Pakistan.
--
C'est bon
Soloman
So did Mr Clinton. The rules are different for the democrat party.
was ok for him. Obama was presented differently by the party and the
public bought the bill of goods. Trump has his personality quirks but I believe he genuinely wants a better America that what has been going on.
The crazy open borders that simply allow anyone to come it is nuts. I
don't know about the rest of you but I have to vent people I don't know before that come into my house. I do think US has been taken advantaged
of by other nations and that has to stop.
AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 1/2/2026 2:50 PM, cyclintom wrote:IrCOd note that post 2nd world war a different tactic was taken, quite apart from the fact that Germany and Japan and to a lesser extent Italy had there industry and infrastructure shattered, quite apart from any capital left,
On Thu Jan 1 14:53:32 2026 AMuzi wrote:
On 1/1/2026 2:04 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Thu Jan 1 10:30:38 2026 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Thu, 01 Jan 2026 18:00:40 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Wed Dec 31 21:40:26 2025 John B. wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 21:07:41 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> >>>>>>>> wrote:
On Tue Dec 30 09:31:43 2025 Mark J cleary wrote:
Everyone wants to run Trump down but Obama did all the bad things but it
was ok for him. Obama was presented differently by the party and the >>>>>>>>>> public bought the bill of goods. Trump has his personality quirks but I
believe he genuinely wants a better America that what has been going on.
The crazy open borders that simply allow anyone to come it is nuts. I
don't know about the rest of you but I have to vent people I don't know
before that come into my house. I do think US has been taken advantaged
of by other nations and that has to stop.
I believe that President Trump really wants a better world and is >>>>>>>>> bing opposed every inch of the way. The Slime Stream Media is >>>>>>>>> fighting him every inch of the way EVEN when they know he is correct. >>>>>>>>>
What would make the media and the Democrats say that Europe
shouldn't pay their own way even when they can afford it? The >>>>>>>>> Socialism that is so active in Europe is the same things that >>>>>>>>> Hitler was promising! That Stalin murdered millions for. How is it >>>>>>>>> that Europe learned nothing from that?
Well to give the Devil his due. When Hitler took over the German >>>>>>>> government their money was nearly valueless and unemployment was >>>>>>>> nation wide. He returned the value of the currency and got every one >>>>>>>> a job.
Germany had an entirely self contained currency so its value was >>>>>>> what Hitler said it was. Evgeryone is employed in a war, Do not
mistake reality for your imagination.
Nope. Germany was exporting its hard currency to the allies in the >>>>>> form of war reparations. The result was "hyperinflation".
<https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/08/Img-Z121706-0001.jpg>
However:
"Hyperinflation in the Weimar Republic"
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperinflation_in_the_Weimar_Republic> >>>>>> "Historians and economists are divided on the causes of this
hyperinflation, particularly the extent to which it was caused by
reparations payments."
Hitler became chancellor in 1934, when he was able to actually do
something to reduce inflation. However, between 1918 (end of WW1) and >>>>>> 1934 he did absolutely nothing to stabilize the currency, especially >>>>>> between the global stock market crash in 1929 and 1934.
"Reichsmark"
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichsmark>
"The Reichsmark was the currency of Germany from 1924 until the fall >>>>>> of Nazi Germany in 1945, and in the American, British and French
occupied zones of Germany, until 20 June 1948."
"The Reichsmark was introduced in 1924 as a permanent replacement for >>>>>> the Papiermark. This was necessary due to the 1920s German inflation >>>>>> which had reached its peak in 1923."
After 1934, Hitler was able to take control of the German central
bank.
"Reichsbank"
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichsbank#Nazi_period>
"The Nazi regime promptly put an end to the independence of the
Reichsbank and made it an instrument of their policy of directing
Germany's resources towards rearmament and military expansion."
He spent most of the bank's assets on military expansion. When
Germany initially seemed to be winning, Germany was able to borrow >>>>>> money from various central banks, resulting in a substantial debt and >>>>>> corresponding additional inflation.
More stupid "The World As I See It" comments from Liebermann. Hitler >>>>> was assigned as Chancellor in 1933. There was no inflation at that
point because the USA had lent them the money until the crash abd
depression. A blitheriug idiot could have seen that the Treaty of
Versailles would instigate WW II but no one ever accused politicians >>>>> as a group of being intellectual.
Liebermann, what gives you the idea that you should inflict your
ignorance upon thge world around you by cherry picking idiot
literature. Wikipedia ius dying because it is written my people likie >>>>> you. Give us some morfe of your stupid "fact checking"? Everything
that I said and you "factg checked" as wrong was instead proven that I >>>>> was right and you were the ignoramus. And yet you continue on as if
reality is something you cannot fathom.
This is why no one wouold hire you. I can just see you now telling an >>>>> interviewer that he doesn't know what he is talking about and
expecting to be hired as some sort of Stephen Hawking.
German inflation was devastating between 1919 and 1933, one
of the prime reasons the National Socialist Party did well
in 1933, promising to end it.
https://worldhistoryjournal.com/2025/04/09/history-of-hyperinflation-and-the-crash-of-german-mark/
The German people were extremely upset by the treaty of Versilles which
forced them to pay for all of the damages of WW I. ANYONE with half a
brain could have predicted the rise of someone like Hitler. THAT is why
General MacArther treated the Japanese people so well. As did Eisenhower >>> with west Germany. In that manner, the East Germans saw the west as freedom and Democrasy,
Postwar terms were predictably and reasonably sever to all
the Central Powers:
https://www.historyfromonestudenttoanother.com/as-level-international-history-1870-1945/the-league-of-nations-and-international-relations-in-the-1920s/why-was-there-dissatisfaction-with-the-peace-settlements-of-1919-1920/reparations
Penultimate line on that page:
" Germany had to pay the highest reparations of -u6.6
billion. This horrified the German representatives and
argued that Germany was in no position to pay this as the
war resulted into their economyrCOs devastation."
The Ottomans, conversely, suffered large territorial losses,
infringements of sovereignty and general subjugation but not
the sort of future monetary damages inflicted on Germany:
https://www.loc.gov/collections/world-war-i-rotogravures/articles-and-essays/events-and-statistics/armistice-terms/
N.B. I am not taking any position on the Armistice nor
Treaty. I probably would have been no less punitive at the
time than the authors. But the above is what actually happened.
as aside the fact that the UK infrastructure remained largely intact was
why we had a 2nd age of the steam trains in the 50rCOs.
Roger Merriman
On 12/31/2025 10:15 AM, John B. wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 09:13:50 -0500, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 04:37:29 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 05:09:40 -0500, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 01:53:08 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 02:16:52 -0500, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 20:51:02 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 16:51:02 -0500, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 07:04:35 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 07:50:51 -0600, AMuzi
<am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 12/30/2025 4:10 AM, zen cycle wrote:
On 12/29/2025 11:11 PM, John B. wrote:
I read all the news about Beloved Leader all
but invading
Venezuela
and claiming that the U.S. needs Greenland and
assumed
that was just
Wonder Boy showing off.
Then I did a little research and it seems that
Venezuela
has the
world's highest proven crude oil reserves, almost
surpassing those of
Saudi Arabia and US combined and that Greenland
is-a widely
believed to
hold excellent potentials for a host of natural
resources,
including
zinc, lead, gold, iron ore, heavy and light
rare earth
elements,
copper as well as crude oil.
It might make one wonder whether drugs really
is the problem.
--
There is no cause to wonder. Drugs are not the
issue.
p.s. As I have mentioned here previously, from my
direct
experience, every international flight at every
airport all
day long every day carries contraband. The drug
networks are
heavily invested in personnel among ground crews
at both
ends and blowing up cigarette boing ts will not
touch the big
end of the problem.
One solution is to ignore the blokes selling it
and go after the guys
buying it.
The users are just stupid. The traffickers are bad,
but a dead
trafficker is a good trafficker.
But we've just had a discussion about how wrong the
death penalty is.
As I see it, killing someone while they are strapped
to a table is
different from killing them while they are committing
a crime to stop
them from completing the crime.
If we are talking bout the small boat sinking, alleged
to be dope
boats. Has there been any proof that the were actually
loaded with
drugs or this just what some said?
Pictures show them loaded with small packages.
Lack of any kind of fishing equipment.
High speed travel for long distances across open water
What else can it be?
Get real!
Years ago raising poppies in N.W. Thailand was the maim
money crop in
some areas and I can assure they they didn't.transport
the product-a it
in cute little boxes,-a it was in kilo or multi kilo bags.
Much like what could be seen in the boats just before
they got blown
up.
As for high speed over long distances, why? It takes a
lot of fuel.
Indeed, but that's what they were doing when they got
blown up.
Why not a, 60 ft fishing boat with the nets hanging over
the deck and
a couple of guys working on them?
That's not the kinds of boats that were targeted.
Well, see. It is some 2,972.82-a miles from Venezuela to
the U.S. Tell
us more about these small boats with the little boxes on
them.
Are these boats travel between Venezuela and the U.S.? Or
to some
foreign country that Fearless Leader is sinking.
Very few if any of the drugs entering the US are from
Vnazuala, and of that tiny fraction the vast majority enters
though airports. The "drug boats" being blown up are
allegedly destined for europe.
Or perhaps not so fearless as it is said that he used fake
medical
status to evade being drafted... heal splint, cant walk
https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-
congress/2019/02/27/trumps-lawyer-no-basis-for-presidents-
medical-deferment-from-vietnam/
yup, they called it a daddy deferment - they even wrote
songs about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWijx_AgPiA
And what is happening with these tankers that the U.S. is
grabbing?
Are they selling the oil?
Contrary to Andrews posit, a small fraction may end up in US
coffers, but the majority will be destined for the large US
oil producers, especially Chevron who has been operating in
venezuela under a special permit extended by trump this past
July. IOW - buy chevron stock now.
--
cheers,
John B.
On 12/31/2025 10:15 AM, John B. wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 09:13:50 -0500, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 04:37:29 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 05:09:40 -0500, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 01:53:08 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 02:16:52 -0500, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 20:51:02 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 16:51:02 -0500, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 07:04:35 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 07:50:51 -0600, AMuzi
<am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 12/30/2025 4:10 AM, zen cycle wrote:
On 12/29/2025 11:11 PM, John B. wrote:
I read all the news about Beloved Leader all
but invading
Venezuela
and claiming that the U.S. needs Greenland and
assumed
that was just
Wonder Boy showing off.
Then I did a little research and it seems that
Venezuela
has the
world's highest proven crude oil reserves, almost
surpassing those of
Saudi Arabia and US combined and that Greenland
is-a widely
believed to
hold excellent potentials for a host of natural
resources,
including
zinc, lead, gold, iron ore, heavy and light
rare earth
elements,
copper as well as crude oil.
It might make one wonder whether drugs really
is the problem.
--
There is no cause to wonder. Drugs are not the
issue.
p.s. As I have mentioned here previously, from my
direct
experience, every international flight at every
airport all
day long every day carries contraband. The drug
networks are
heavily invested in personnel among ground crews
at both
ends and blowing up cigarette boing ts will not
touch the big
end of the problem.
One solution is to ignore the blokes selling it
and go after the guys
buying it.
The users are just stupid. The traffickers are bad,
but a dead
trafficker is a good trafficker.
But we've just had a discussion about how wrong the
death penalty is.
As I see it, killing someone while they are strapped
to a table is
different from killing them while they are committing
a crime to stop
them from completing the crime.
If we are talking bout the small boat sinking, alleged
to be dope
boats. Has there been any proof that the were actually
loaded with
drugs or this just what some said?
Pictures show them loaded with small packages.
Lack of any kind of fishing equipment.
High speed travel for long distances across open water
What else can it be?
Get real!
Years ago raising poppies in N.W. Thailand was the maim
money crop in
some areas and I can assure they they didn't.transport
the product-a it
in cute little boxes,-a it was in kilo or multi kilo bags.
Much like what could be seen in the boats just before
they got blown
up.
As for high speed over long distances, why? It takes a
lot of fuel.
Indeed, but that's what they were doing when they got
blown up.
Why not a, 60 ft fishing boat with the nets hanging over
the deck and
a couple of guys working on them?
That's not the kinds of boats that were targeted.
Well, see. It is some 2,972.82-a miles from Venezuela to
the U.S. Tell
us more about these small boats with the little boxes on
them.
Are these boats travel between Venezuela and the U.S.? Or
to some
foreign country that Fearless Leader is sinking.
Very few if any of the drugs entering the US are from
Vnazuala, and of that tiny fraction the vast majority enters
though airports. The "drug boats" being blown up are
allegedly destined for europe.
Or perhaps not so fearless as it is said that he used fake
medical
status to evade being drafted... heal splint, cant walk
https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-
congress/2019/02/27/trumps-lawyer-no-basis-for-presidents-
medical-deferment-from-vietnam/
yup, they called it a daddy deferment - they even wrote
songs about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWijx_AgPiA
And what is happening with these tankers that the U.S. is
grabbing?
Are they selling the oil?
Contrary to Andrews posit, a small fraction may end up in US
coffers, but the majority will be destined for the large US
oil producers, especially Chevron who has been operating in
venezuela under a special permit extended by trump this past
July. IOW - buy chevron stock now.
--
cheers,
John B.
On 12/31/2025 10:09 AM, AMuzi wrote:
On 12/31/2025 4:01 AM, John B. wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 02:16:52 -0500, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 20:51:02 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 16:51:02 -0500, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 07:04:35 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 07:50:51 -0600, AMuzi
<am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 12/30/2025 4:10 AM, zen cycle wrote:
On 12/29/2025 11:11 PM, John B. wrote:
I read all the news about Beloved Leader all but
invading
Venezuela
and claiming that the U.S. needs Greenland and
assumed
that was just
Wonder Boy showing off.
Then I did a little research and it seems that
Venezuela
has the
world's highest proven crude oil reserves, almost
surpassing those of
Saudi Arabia and US combined and that Greenland
is-a widely
believed to
hold excellent potentials for a host of natural
resources,
including
zinc, lead, gold, iron ore, heavy and light rare
earth
elements,
copper as well as crude oil.
It might make one wonder whether drugs really is
the problem.
--
There is no cause to wonder. Drugs are not the issue.
p.s. As I have mentioned here previously, from my
direct
experience, every international flight at every
airport all
day long every day carries contraband. The drug
networks are
heavily invested in personnel among ground crews at
both
ends and blowing up cigarette boing ts will not
touch the big
end of the problem.
One solution is to ignore the blokes selling it and
go after the guys
buying it.
The users are just stupid. The traffickers are bad,
but a dead
trafficker is a good trafficker.
But we've just had a discussion about how wrong the
death penalty is.
As I see it, killing someone while they are strapped to
a table is
different from killing them while they are committing a
crime to stop
them from completing the crime.
I like it. Lets be sure all the Police are informed,
"don't arrest
them, just shoot them."
--
cheers,
John B.
Oh, don't be obtuse.
In the moment, violence in defense of human life, yours or
others, is just and proper and well well established
everywhere, always, in every culture and era.
Bullshit. "shoot fist and ask questions later" is not
justifiable. You're assuming that the boats are carrying
drugs because that's the pabulum you've been fed.
to reiterate: If they can track, target, and destroy the
boats they can seize the boats. Better yet they could track
them to their destinations and intercede deeper into the
smuggling operation. That would answer the question without
extra-judicial murders.
On 12/30/2025 9:21 AM, AMuzi wrote:
On 12/30/2025 8:17 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 07:45:11 -0600, AMuzi
<am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 12/29/2025 10:11 PM, John B. wrote:
I read all the news about Beloved Leader all but
invading Venezuela
and claiming that the U.S. needs Greenland and assumed
that was just
Wonder Boy showing off.
Then I did a little research and it seems that
Venezuela has the
world's highest proven crude oil reserves, almost
surpassing those of
Saudi Arabia and US combined and that Greenland is
widely believed to
hold excellent potentials for a host of natural
resources, including
zinc, lead, gold, iron ore, heavy and light rare earth
elements,
copper as well as crude oil.
It might make one wonder whether drugs really is the
problem.
--
cheers,
John B.
I was OK with enforcing sanctions of long (2005)
standing of
oil transport in open waters but the drone bombing of docks
is an act of war, which seems to me a step too far.-a We'll
see...
Nothing new here....
Obama launched airstrikes or military raids in at least
seven
countries: Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Yemen,
Somalia and
Pakistan.
--
C'est bon
Soloman
So did Mr Clinton. The rules are different for the
democrat party.
I like how you right-wing patsies give a pass to bush/cheney
over Iraq.
On 12/31/2025 1:16 AM, floriduh dumbass wrote:And again, the right-wing patsy revisionist history rears
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 20:51:14 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 09:17:16 -0500, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 07:45:11 -0600, AMuzi
<am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 12/29/2025 10:11 PM, John B. wrote:
I read all the news about Beloved Leader all but
invading Venezuela
and claiming that the U.S. needs Greenland and
assumed that was just
Wonder Boy showing off.
Then I did a little research and it seems that
Venezuela has the
world's highest proven crude oil reserves, almost
surpassing those of
Saudi Arabia and US combined and that Greenland is
widely believed to
hold excellent potentials for a host of natural
resources, including
zinc, lead, gold, iron ore, heavy and light rare
earth elements,
copper as well as crude oil.
It might make one wonder whether drugs really is the
problem.
--
cheers,
John B.
I was OK with enforcing sanctions of long (2005)
standing of
oil transport in open waters but the drone bombing of
docks
is an act of war, which seems to me a step too far.
We'll
see...
Nothing new here....
Obama launched airstrikes or military raids in at least
seven
countries: Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Yemen,
Somalia and
Pakistan.
And accompliahed?
Killed a lot of women and children...
it's ignorant head - You conveniently left out this, dumbass:
https://www.war.gov/Multimedia/Photos/igphoto/2002009777/
But according to you fucking idiots, the indiscriminate
killing of _suspected_ drug runners is a far more patriotic
and justifiable act.
On 12/30/2025 10:31 AM, Mark J cleary wrote:
On 12/30/2025 8:21 AM, AMuzi wrote:
On 12/30/2025 8:17 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:Everyone wants to run Trump down but Obama did all the bad
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 07:45:11 -0600, AMuzi
<am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 12/29/2025 10:11 PM, John B. wrote:
I read all the news about Beloved Leader all but
invading Venezuela
and claiming that the U.S. needs Greenland and assumed
that was just
Wonder Boy showing off.
Then I did a little research and it seems that
Venezuela has the
world's highest proven crude oil reserves, almost
surpassing those of
Saudi Arabia and US combined and that Greenland is
widely believed to
hold excellent potentials for a host of natural
resources, including
zinc, lead, gold, iron ore, heavy and light rare earth
elements,
copper as well as crude oil.
It might make one wonder whether drugs really is the
problem.
--
cheers,
John B.
I was OK with enforcing sanctions of long (2005)
standing of
oil transport in open waters but the drone bombing of
docks
is an act of war, which seems to me a step too far.-a We'll
see...
Nothing new here....
Obama launched airstrikes or military raids in at least
seven
countries: Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Yemen,
Somalia and
Pakistan.
--
C'est bon
Soloman
So did Mr Clinton. The rules are different for the
democrat party.
things but it was ok for him. Obama was presented
differently by the party and the public bought the bill of
goods. Trump has his personality quirks but I believe he
genuinely wants a better America that what has been going
on. The crazy open borders that simply allow anyone to
come it is nuts. I don't know about the rest of you but I
have to vent people I don't know before that come into my
house. I do think US has been taken advantaged of by other
nations and that has to stop.
Matthew 25:
The Final Judgment
rCLWhen the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels
with him, then he will sit on his glorious throne. Before
him will be gathered all the nations, and he will separate
people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep
from the goats. And he will place the sheep on his right,
but the goats on the left. Then the King will say to those
on his right, rCyCome, you who are blessed by my Father,
inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of
the world. For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was
thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you
welcomed me, I was naked and you clothed me, I was sick and
you visited me, I was in prison and you came to me.rCO Then
the righteous will answer him, saying, rCyLord, when did we
see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you drink?
And when did we see you a stranger and welcome you, or naked
and clothe you? And when did we see you sick or in prison
and visit you?rCO And the King will answer them, rCyTruly, I say
to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my
brothers,f you did it to me.rCO
rCLThen he will say to those on his left, rCyDepart from me, you
cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his
angels. For I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was
thirsty and you gave me no drink, I was a stranger and you
did not welcome me, naked and you did not clothe me, sick
and in prison and you did not visit me.rCO Then they also will
answer, saying, rCyLord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty
or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not
minister to you?rCO Then he will answer them, saying, rCyTruly,
I say to you, as you did not do it to one of the least of
these, you did not do it to me.rCO And these will go away into
eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.rCY
On 1/3/2026 6:30 AM, zen cycle wrote:
On 12/31/2025 10:15 AM, John B. wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 09:13:50 -0500, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 04:37:29 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 05:09:40 -0500, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 01:53:08 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 02:16:52 -0500, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 20:51:02 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 16:51:02 -0500, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 07:04:35 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 07:50:51 -0600, AMuzi
<am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 12/30/2025 4:10 AM, zen cycle wrote:
On 12/29/2025 11:11 PM, John B. wrote:
I read all the news about Beloved Leader all but invading >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Venezuela
and claiming that the U.S. needs Greenland and assumed >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that was just
Wonder Boy showing off.
Then I did a little research and it seems that Venezuela >>>>>>>>>>>>>> has the
world's highest proven crude oil reserves, almost
surpassing those of
Saudi Arabia and US combined and that Greenland is-a widely >>>>>>>>>>>>>> believed to
hold excellent potentials for a host of natural resources, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> including
zinc, lead, gold, iron ore, heavy and light rare earth >>>>>>>>>>>>>> elements,
copper as well as crude oil.
It might make one wonder whether drugs really is the problem. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
There is no cause to wonder. Drugs are not the issue. >>>>>>>>>>>>
p.s. As I have mentioned here previously, from my direct >>>>>>>>>>>> experience, every international flight at every airport all >>>>>>>>>>>> day long every day carries contraband. The drug networks are >>>>>>>>>>>> heavily invested in personnel among ground crews at both >>>>>>>>>>>> ends and blowing up cigarette boing ts will not touch the big >>>>>>>>>>>> end of the problem.
One solution is to ignore the blokes selling it and go after >>>>>>>>>>> the guys
buying it.
The users are just stupid. The traffickers are bad, but a dead >>>>>>>>>> trafficker is a good trafficker.
But we've just had a discussion about how wrong the death
penalty is.
As I see it, killing someone while they are strapped to a table is >>>>>>>> different from killing them while they are committing a crime to >>>>>>>> stop
them from completing the crime.
If we are talking bout the small boat sinking, alleged to be dope >>>>>>> boats. Has there been any proof that the were actually loaded with >>>>>>> drugs or this just what some said?
Pictures show them loaded with small packages.
Lack of any kind of fishing equipment.
High speed travel for long distances across open water
What else can it be?
Get real!
Years ago raising poppies in N.W. Thailand was the maim money crop in >>>>> some areas and I can assure they they didn't.transport the product-a it >>>>> in cute little boxes,-a it was in kilo or multi kilo bags.
Much like what could be seen in the boats just before they got blown
up.
As for high speed over long distances, why? It takes a lot of fuel.
Indeed, but that's what they were doing when they got blown up.
Why not a, 60 ft fishing boat with the nets hanging over the deck and >>>>> a couple of guys working on them?
That's not the kinds of boats that were targeted.
Well, see. It is some 2,972.82-a miles from Venezuela to the U.S. Tell
us more about these small boats with the little boxes on them.
Are these boats travel between Venezuela and the U.S.? Or to some
foreign country that Fearless Leader is sinking.
Very few if any of the drugs entering the US are from Vnazuala, and of
that tiny fraction the vast majority enters though airports. The "drug
boats" being blown up are allegedly destined for europe.
Or perhaps not so fearless as it is said that he used fake medical
status to evade being drafted... heal splint, cant walk
https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon- congress/2019/02/27/
trumps-lawyer-no-basis-for-presidents- medical-deferment-from-vietnam/
yup, they called it a daddy deferment - they even wrote songs about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWijx_AgPiA
And what is happening with these tankers that the U.S. is grabbing?
Are they selling the oil?
Contrary to Andrews posit, a small fraction may end up in US coffers,
but the majority will be destined for the large US oil producers,
especially Chevron who has been operating in venezuela under a special
permit extended by trump this past July. IOW - buy chevron stock now.
--
cheers,
John B.
You made that up.
Items seized by USCG, USN, DEA or Federal Marshals are sold by GSA, in
this case both cargo and hull. Proceeds to US Treasury. It's always been handled that way.
https://www.usa.gov/boat-aircraft-auctions
On 1/3/2026 7:06 AM, zen cycle wrote:
On 12/30/2025 10:31 AM, Mark J cleary wrote:
On 12/30/2025 8:21 AM, AMuzi wrote:
On 12/30/2025 8:17 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:Everyone wants to run Trump down but Obama did all the bad things but
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 07:45:11 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote: >>>>>
On 12/29/2025 10:11 PM, John B. wrote:
I read all the news about Beloved Leader all but invading Venezuela >>>>>>> and claiming that the U.S. needs Greenland and assumed that was just >>>>>>> Wonder Boy showing off.
Then I did a little research and it seems that Venezuela has the >>>>>>> world's highest proven crude oil reserves, almost surpassing
those of
Saudi Arabia and US combined and that Greenland is widely
believed to
hold excellent potentials for a host of natural resources, including >>>>>>> zinc, lead, gold, iron ore, heavy and light rare earth elements, >>>>>>> copper as well as crude oil.
It might make one wonder whether drugs really is the problem.
--
cheers,
John B.
I was OK with enforcing sanctions of long (2005) standing of
oil transport in open waters but the drone bombing of docks
is an act of war, which seems to me a step too far.-a We'll
see...
Nothing new here....
Obama launched airstrikes or military raids in at least seven
countries: Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Yemen, Somalia and
Pakistan.
--
C'est bon
Soloman
So did Mr Clinton. The rules are different for the democrat party.
it was ok for him. Obama was presented differently by the party and
the public bought the bill of goods. Trump has his personality quirks
but I believe he genuinely wants a better America that what has been
going on. The crazy open borders that simply allow anyone to come it
is nuts. I don't know about the rest of you but I have to vent people
I don't know before that come into my house. I do think US has been
taken advantaged of by other nations and that has to stop.
Matthew 25:
The Final Judgment
rCLWhen the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him,
then he will sit on his glorious throne. Before him will be gathered
all the nations, and he will separate people one from another as a
shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. And he will place the
sheep on his right, but the goats on the left. Then the King will say
to those on his right, rCyCome, you who are blessed by my Father,
inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world.
For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me
drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, I was naked and you
clothed me, I was sick and you visited me, I was in prison and you
came to me.rCO Then the righteous will answer him, saying, rCyLord, when
did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you drink? And
when did we see you a stranger and welcome you, or naked and clothe
you? And when did we see you sick or in prison and visit you?rCO And the
King will answer them, rCyTruly, I say to you, as you did it to one of
the least of these my brothers,f you did it to me.rCO
rCLThen he will say to those on his left, rCyDepart from me, you cursed,
into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was
hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no
drink, I was a stranger and you did not welcome me, naked and you did
not clothe me, sick and in prison and you did not visit me.rCO Then they
also will answer, saying, rCyLord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty
or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to
you?rCO Then he will answer them, saying, rCyTruly, I say to you, as you
did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to me.rCO
And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into
eternal life.rCY
Oddly, both Christians (of all sects) and non Christians cite that as
proof positive for every damned issue of the day, small or large, every
day, from either or all sides.
meh.
On 1/3/2026 6:41 AM, zen cycle wrote:
On 12/30/2025 9:21 AM, AMuzi wrote:
On 12/30/2025 8:17 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 07:45:11 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote: >>>>
On 12/29/2025 10:11 PM, John B. wrote:
I read all the news about Beloved Leader all but invading Venezuela >>>>>> and claiming that the U.S. needs Greenland and assumed that was just >>>>>> Wonder Boy showing off.
Then I did a little research and it seems that Venezuela has the
world's highest proven crude oil reserves, almost surpassing those of >>>>>> Saudi Arabia and US combined and that Greenland is widely believed to >>>>>> hold excellent potentials for a host of natural resources, including >>>>>> zinc, lead, gold, iron ore, heavy and light rare earth elements,
copper as well as crude oil.
It might make one wonder whether drugs really is the problem.
--
cheers,
John B.
I was OK with enforcing sanctions of long (2005) standing of
oil transport in open waters but the drone bombing of docks
is an act of war, which seems to me a step too far.-a We'll
see...
Nothing new here....
Obama launched airstrikes or military raids in at least seven
countries: Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Yemen, Somalia and
Pakistan.
--
C'est bon
Soloman
So did Mr Clinton. The rules are different for the democrat party.
I like how you right-wing patsies give a pass to bush/cheney over Iraq.
Not I.-a Plenty enough wins, losses, and tragedies in all administrations.
On 1/3/2026 6:51 AM, zen cycle wrote:
On 12/31/2025 1:16 AM, floriduh dumbass wrote:And again, the right-wing patsy revisionist history rears it's
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 20:51:14 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 09:17:16 -0500, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 07:45:11 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org>
wrote:
On 12/29/2025 10:11 PM, John B. wrote:
I read all the news about Beloved Leader all but invading Venezuela >>>>>>>> and claiming that the U.S. needs Greenland and assumed that was >>>>>>>> just
Wonder Boy showing off.
Then I did a little research and it seems that Venezuela has the >>>>>>>> world's highest proven crude oil reserves, almost surpassing
those of
Saudi Arabia and US combined and that Greenland is widely
believed to
hold excellent potentials for a host of natural resources,
including
zinc, lead, gold, iron ore, heavy and light rare earth elements, >>>>>>>> copper as well as crude oil.
It might make one wonder whether drugs really is the problem.
--
cheers,
John B.
I was OK with enforcing sanctions of long (2005) standing of
oil transport in open waters but the drone bombing of docks
is an act of war, which seems to me a step too far. We'll
see...
Nothing new here....
Obama launched airstrikes or military raids in at least seven
countries: Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Yemen, Somalia and
Pakistan.
And accompliahed?
Killed a lot of women and children...
ignorant head - You conveniently left out this, dumbass:
https://www.war.gov/Multimedia/Photos/igphoto/2002009777/
But according to you fucking idiots, the indiscriminate killing of
_suspected_ drug runners is a far more patriotic and justifiable act.
I'm OK with assassinating Mr Bin Laden but what's the moral/legal difference?-a He was never tried, despite being obviously guilty, just
like the dope runners.
On 1/3/2026 6:36 AM, zen cycle wrote:
On 12/31/2025 10:09 AM, AMuzi wrote:
On 12/31/2025 4:01 AM, John B. wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 02:16:52 -0500, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 20:51:02 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 16:51:02 -0500, Catrike RyderAs I see it, killing someone while they are strapped to a table is
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 07:04:35 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 07:50:51 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> >>>>>>>> wrote:
On 12/30/2025 4:10 AM, zen cycle wrote:
On 12/29/2025 11:11 PM, John B. wrote:
I read all the news about Beloved Leader all but invading >>>>>>>>>>> Venezuela
and claiming that the U.S. needs Greenland and assumed
that was just
Wonder Boy showing off.
Then I did a little research and it seems that Venezuela >>>>>>>>>>> has the
world's highest proven crude oil reserves, almost
surpassing those of
Saudi Arabia and US combined and that Greenland is-a widely >>>>>>>>>>> believed to
hold excellent potentials for a host of natural resources, >>>>>>>>>>> including
zinc, lead, gold, iron ore, heavy and light rare earth
elements,
copper as well as crude oil.
It might make one wonder whether drugs really is the problem. >>>>>>>>>>> --
There is no cause to wonder. Drugs are not the issue.
p.s. As I have mentioned here previously, from my direct
experience, every international flight at every airport all
day long every day carries contraband. The drug networks are >>>>>>>>> heavily invested in personnel among ground crews at both
ends and blowing up cigarette boing ts will not touch the big >>>>>>>>> end of the problem.
One solution is to ignore the blokes selling it and go after the >>>>>>>> guys
buying it.
The users are just stupid. The traffickers are bad, but a dead
trafficker is a good trafficker.
But we've just had a discussion about how wrong the death penalty is. >>>>>
different from killing them while they are committing a crime to stop >>>>> them from completing the crime.
I like it. Lets be sure all the Police are informed, "don't arrest
them, just shoot them."
--
cheers,
John B.
Oh, don't be obtuse.
In the moment, violence in defense of human life, yours or others, is
just and proper and well well established everywhere, always, in
every culture and era.
Bullshit. "shoot fist and ask questions later" is not justifiable.
You're assuming that the boats are carrying drugs because that's the
pabulum you've been fed.
to reiterate: If they can track, target, and destroy the boats they
can seize the boats. Better yet they could track them to their
destinations and intercede deeper into the smuggling operation. That
would answer the question without extra-judicial murders.
We crossed arguments there.
As regards state capital punishment, I hold that the various official components (police, prosecutors, public defenders, juries and judges)
are neither competent not honest enough to avoid killing of innocents.
That bothers me enough to walk away from endorsing it. (others say,
well, to make an omelet...)
Mr Slocumb noted
killing someone while they are strapped to a table is
different from killing them while they are committing a
-acrime to stop them from completing the crime.
Which I found quite rational and I expressly replied with the general principle, recognized in our laws, that
"violence in defense of human life, yours or others, is just and proper
and well well established "
Which is not at all "shoot first and ask questions later".
Hope that clears thing up a bit.
On 1/3/2026 9:53 AM, AMuzi wrote:
On 1/3/2026 7:06 AM, zen cycle wrote:
On 12/30/2025 10:31 AM, Mark J cleary wrote:
On 12/30/2025 8:21 AM, AMuzi wrote:
On 12/30/2025 8:17 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:Everyone wants to run Trump down but Obama did all the
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 07:45:11 -0600, AMuzi
<am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 12/29/2025 10:11 PM, John B. wrote:
I read all the news about Beloved Leader all but
invading Venezuela
and claiming that the U.S. needs Greenland and
assumed that was just
Wonder Boy showing off.
Then I did a little research and it seems that
Venezuela has the
world's highest proven crude oil reserves, almost
surpassing those of
Saudi Arabia and US combined and that Greenland is
widely believed to
hold excellent potentials for a host of natural
resources, including
zinc, lead, gold, iron ore, heavy and light rare
earth elements,
copper as well as crude oil.
It might make one wonder whether drugs really is the
problem.
--
cheers,
John B.
I was OK with enforcing sanctions of long (2005)
standing of
oil transport in open waters but the drone bombing of
docks
is an act of war, which seems to me a step too far.
We'll
see...
Nothing new here....
Obama launched airstrikes or military raids in at
least seven
countries: Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Yemen,
Somalia and
Pakistan.
--
C'est bon
Soloman
So did Mr Clinton. The rules are different for the
democrat party.
bad things but it was ok for him. Obama was presented
differently by the party and the public bought the bill
of goods. Trump has his personality quirks but I believe
he genuinely wants a better America that what has been
going on. The crazy open borders that simply allow
anyone to come it is nuts. I don't know about the rest
of you but I have to vent people I don't know before
that come into my house. I do think US has been taken
advantaged of by other nations and that has to stop.
Matthew 25:
The Final Judgment
rCLWhen the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the
angels with him, then he will sit on his glorious throne.
Before him will be gathered all the nations, and he will
separate people one from another as a shepherd separates
the sheep from the goats. And he will place the sheep on
his right, but the goats on the left. Then the King will
say to those on his right, rCyCome, you who are blessed by
my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the
foundation of the world. For I was hungry and you gave me
food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a
stranger and you welcomed me, I was naked and you clothed
me, I was sick and you visited me, I was in prison and
you came to me.rCO Then the righteous will answer him,
saying, rCyLord, when did we see you hungry and feed you,
or thirsty and give you drink? And when did we see you a
stranger and welcome you, or naked and clothe you? And
when did we see you sick or in prison and visit you?rCO And
the King will answer them, rCyTruly, I say to you, as you
did it to one of the least of these my brothers,f you did
it to me.rCO
rCLThen he will say to those on his left, rCyDepart from me,
you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil
and his angels. For I was hungry and you gave me no food,
I was thirsty and you gave me no drink, I was a stranger
and you did not welcome me, naked and you did not clothe
me, sick and in prison and you did not visit me.rCO Then
they also will answer, saying, rCyLord, when did we see you
hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in
prison, and did not minister to you?rCO Then he will answer
them, saying, rCyTruly, I say to you, as you did not do it
to one of the least of these, you did not do it to me.rCO
And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the
righteous into eternal life.rCY
Oddly, both Christians (of all sects) and non Christians
cite that as proof positive for every damned issue of the
day, small or large, every day, from either or all sides.
meh.
It's never cited as an excuse to deport non-citizens.
On 1/3/2026 9:50 AM, AMuzi wrote:
On 1/3/2026 6:51 AM, zen cycle wrote:
On 12/31/2025 1:16 AM, floriduh dumbass wrote:And again, the right-wing patsy revisionist history rears
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 20:51:14 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 09:17:16 -0500, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 07:45:11 -0600, AMuzi
<am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 12/29/2025 10:11 PM, John B. wrote:
I read all the news about Beloved Leader all but
invading Venezuela
and claiming that the U.S. needs Greenland and
assumed that was just
Wonder Boy showing off.
Then I did a little research and it seems that
Venezuela has the
world's highest proven crude oil reserves, almost
surpassing those of
Saudi Arabia and US combined and that Greenland is
widely believed to
hold excellent potentials for a host of natural
resources, including
zinc, lead, gold, iron ore, heavy and light rare
earth elements,
copper as well as crude oil.
It might make one wonder whether drugs really is
the problem.
--
cheers,
John B.
I was OK with enforcing sanctions of long (2005)
standing of
oil transport in open waters but the drone bombing
of docks
is an act of war, which seems to me a step too far.
We'll
see...
Nothing new here....
Obama launched airstrikes or military raids in at
least seven
countries: Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Yemen,
Somalia and
Pakistan.
And accompliahed?
Killed a lot of women and children...
it's ignorant head - You conveniently left out this,
dumbass:
https://www.war.gov/Multimedia/Photos/igphoto/2002009777/
But according to you fucking idiots, the indiscriminate
killing of _suspected_ drug runners is a far more
patriotic and justifiable act.
I'm OK with assassinating Mr Bin Laden but what's the
moral/legal difference?-a He was never tried, despite being
obviously guilty, just like the dope runners.
The differences is massively and glaringly obvious.
- The alleged drug runners are being executed without proof
that they are in fact running drugs into the US, and
factually, there is little evidence that the drugs in the
pipeline that the US is targeting are actually destined for
the US. That doesn't consider the fact that the users of the
end product are by-and-large willing participants in the
enterprise. Drug running is a money-making operation - if
there was no market, there would be no operation
- Bin Laden planned, financed, and executed an attack
against ordinary Americans going about their daily lives,
and admitted to it. It wasn't about money, it was an
ideological attack. He wasn't attempting to profit from a
willing market, he punished America/Americans for being
America/Americans. In that context, it's no different than
trumps anti immigration policy.
On 1/3/2026 2:36 AM, Roger Merriman wrote:
AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 1/2/2026 2:50 PM, cyclintom wrote:IrCOd note that post 2nd world war a different tactic was taken, quite apart >> from the fact that Germany and Japan and to a lesser extent Italy had there >> industry and infrastructure shattered, quite apart from any capital left,
On Thu Jan 1 14:53:32 2026 AMuzi wrote:
On 1/1/2026 2:04 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Thu Jan 1 10:30:38 2026 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Thu, 01 Jan 2026 18:00:40 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> >>>>>>> wrote:
On Wed Dec 31 21:40:26 2025 John B. wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 21:07:41 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
On Tue Dec 30 09:31:43 2025 Mark J cleary wrote:
Everyone wants to run Trump down but Obama did all the bad things but it
was ok for him. Obama was presented differently by the party and the
public bought the bill of goods. Trump has his personality quirks but I
believe he genuinely wants a better America that what has been going on.
The crazy open borders that simply allow anyone to come it is nuts. I
don't know about the rest of you but I have to vent people I don't know
before that come into my house. I do think US has been taken advantaged
of by other nations and that has to stop.
I believe that President Trump really wants a better world and is >>>>>>>>>> bing opposed every inch of the way. The Slime Stream Media is >>>>>>>>>> fighting him every inch of the way EVEN when they know he is correct.
What would make the media and the Democrats say that Europe >>>>>>>>>> shouldn't pay their own way even when they can afford it? The >>>>>>>>>> Socialism that is so active in Europe is the same things that >>>>>>>>>> Hitler was promising! That Stalin murdered millions for. How is it >>>>>>>>>> that Europe learned nothing from that?
Well to give the Devil his due. When Hitler took over the German >>>>>>>>> government their money was nearly valueless and unemployment was >>>>>>>>> nation wide. He returned the value of the currency and got every one >>>>>>>>> a job.
Germany had an entirely self contained currency so its value was >>>>>>>> what Hitler said it was. Evgeryone is employed in a war, Do not >>>>>>>> mistake reality for your imagination.
Nope. Germany was exporting its hard currency to the allies in the >>>>>>> form of war reparations. The result was "hyperinflation".
<https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/08/Img-Z121706-0001.jpg>
However:
"Hyperinflation in the Weimar Republic"
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperinflation_in_the_Weimar_Republic> >>>>>>> "Historians and economists are divided on the causes of this
hyperinflation, particularly the extent to which it was caused by >>>>>>> reparations payments."
Hitler became chancellor in 1934, when he was able to actually do >>>>>>> something to reduce inflation. However, between 1918 (end of WW1) and >>>>>>> 1934 he did absolutely nothing to stabilize the currency, especially >>>>>>> between the global stock market crash in 1929 and 1934.
"Reichsmark"
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichsmark>
"The Reichsmark was the currency of Germany from 1924 until the fall >>>>>>> of Nazi Germany in 1945, and in the American, British and French >>>>>>> occupied zones of Germany, until 20 June 1948."
"The Reichsmark was introduced in 1924 as a permanent replacement for >>>>>>> the Papiermark. This was necessary due to the 1920s German inflation >>>>>>> which had reached its peak in 1923."
After 1934, Hitler was able to take control of the German central >>>>>>> bank.
"Reichsbank"
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichsbank#Nazi_period>
"The Nazi regime promptly put an end to the independence of the
Reichsbank and made it an instrument of their policy of directing >>>>>>> Germany's resources towards rearmament and military expansion."
He spent most of the bank's assets on military expansion. When
Germany initially seemed to be winning, Germany was able to borrow >>>>>>> money from various central banks, resulting in a substantial debt and >>>>>>> corresponding additional inflation.
More stupid "The World As I See It" comments from Liebermann. Hitler >>>>>> was assigned as Chancellor in 1933. There was no inflation at that >>>>>> point because the USA had lent them the money until the crash abd
depression. A blitheriug idiot could have seen that the Treaty of
Versailles would instigate WW II but no one ever accused politicians >>>>>> as a group of being intellectual.
Liebermann, what gives you the idea that you should inflict your
ignorance upon thge world around you by cherry picking idiot
literature. Wikipedia ius dying because it is written my people likie >>>>>> you. Give us some morfe of your stupid "fact checking"? Everything >>>>>> that I said and you "factg checked" as wrong was instead proven that I >>>>>> was right and you were the ignoramus. And yet you continue on as if >>>>>> reality is something you cannot fathom.
This is why no one wouold hire you. I can just see you now telling an >>>>>> interviewer that he doesn't know what he is talking about and
expecting to be hired as some sort of Stephen Hawking.
German inflation was devastating between 1919 and 1933, one
of the prime reasons the National Socialist Party did well
in 1933, promising to end it.
https://worldhistoryjournal.com/2025/04/09/history-of-hyperinflation-and-the-crash-of-german-mark/
The German people were extremely upset by the treaty of Versilles which >>>> forced them to pay for all of the damages of WW I. ANYONE with half a
brain could have predicted the rise of someone like Hitler. THAT is why >>>> General MacArther treated the Japanese people so well. As did Eisenhower >>>> with west Germany. In that manner, the East Germans saw the west as
freedom and Democrasy,
Postwar terms were predictably and reasonably sever to all
the Central Powers:
https://www.historyfromonestudenttoanother.com/as-level-international-history-1870-1945/the-league-of-nations-and-international-relations-in-the-1920s/why-was-there-dissatisfaction-with-the-peace-settlements-of-1919-1920/reparations
Penultimate line on that page:
" Germany had to pay the highest reparations of -u6.6
billion. This horrified the German representatives and
argued that Germany was in no position to pay this as the
war resulted into their economyrCOs devastation."
The Ottomans, conversely, suffered large territorial losses,
infringements of sovereignty and general subjugation but not
the sort of future monetary damages inflicted on Germany:
https://www.loc.gov/collections/world-war-i-rotogravures/articles-and-essays/events-and-statistics/armistice-terms/
N.B. I am not taking any position on the Armistice nor
Treaty. I probably would have been no less punitive at the
time than the authors. But the above is what actually happened.
as aside the fact that the UK infrastructure remained largely intact was
why we had a 2nd age of the steam trains in the 50rCOs.
Roger Merriman
True, not as damaged as Italy or Germany but England
suffered in her own ways:
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/coventry-blitz-city-remembers-75-6832790
The 1950s were bleak for you with shortages of capital,
manpower, everything and it took much longer to recover than
The Planners expected. As a child, I corresponded with a
same age boy through a school 'pen pal' program and was left
with a very good understanding of our different standards of
living even though my family was on the short end of USA
incomes.
On 1/3/2026 9:46 AM, AMuzi wrote:
On 1/3/2026 6:36 AM, zen cycle wrote:
On 12/31/2025 10:09 AM, AMuzi wrote:
On 12/31/2025 4:01 AM, John B. wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 02:16:52 -0500, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 20:51:02 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 16:51:02 -0500, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 07:04:35 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 07:50:51 -0600, AMuzi
<am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 12/30/2025 4:10 AM, zen cycle wrote:
On 12/29/2025 11:11 PM, John B. wrote:
I read all the news about Beloved Leader all but
invading
Venezuela
and claiming that the U.S. needs Greenland and
assumed
that was just
Wonder Boy showing off.
Then I did a little research and it seems that
Venezuela
has the
world's highest proven crude oil reserves, almost
surpassing those of
Saudi Arabia and US combined and that Greenland
is-a widely
believed to
hold excellent potentials for a host of natural
resources,
including
zinc, lead, gold, iron ore, heavy and light rare
earth
elements,
copper as well as crude oil.
It might make one wonder whether drugs really is
the problem.
--
There is no cause to wonder. Drugs are not the
issue.
p.s. As I have mentioned here previously, from my
direct
experience, every international flight at every
airport all
day long every day carries contraband. The drug
networks are
heavily invested in personnel among ground crews
at both
ends and blowing up cigarette boing ts will not
touch the big
end of the problem.
One solution is to ignore the blokes selling it and
go after the guys
buying it.
The users are just stupid. The traffickers are bad,
but a dead
trafficker is a good trafficker.
But we've just had a discussion about how wrong the
death penalty is.
As I see it, killing someone while they are strapped
to a table is
different from killing them while they are committing
a crime to stop
them from completing the crime.
I like it. Lets be sure all the Police are informed,
"don't arrest
them, just shoot them."
--
cheers,
John B.
Oh, don't be obtuse.
In the moment, violence in defense of human life, yours
or others, is just and proper and well well established
everywhere, always, in every culture and era.
Bullshit. "shoot fist and ask questions later" is not
justifiable. You're assuming that the boats are carrying
drugs because that's the pabulum you've been fed.
to reiterate: If they can track, target, and destroy the
boats they can seize the boats. Better yet they could
track them to their destinations and intercede deeper
into the smuggling operation. That would answer the
question without extra-judicial murders.
We crossed arguments there.
As regards state capital punishment, I hold that the
various official components (police, prosecutors, public
defenders, juries and judges) are neither competent not
honest enough to avoid killing of innocents. That bothers
me enough to walk away from endorsing it. (others say,
well, to make an omelet...)
Mr Slocumb noted
killing someone while they are strapped to a table is
different from killing them while they are committing a
-a-acrime to stop them from completing the crime.
Which I found quite rational and I expressly replied with
the general principle, recognized in our laws, that
"violence in defense of human life, yours or others, is
just and proper and well well established "
Which is not at all "shoot first and ask questions later".
Hope that clears thing up a bit.
It would if there was proof that destroying the boats were
in fact forcing Americans to become addicts. This brings us
back to immigrants eating cats.
On 1/3/2026 9:45 AM, zen cycle wrote:
On 1/3/2026 9:46 AM, AMuzi wrote:
On 1/3/2026 6:36 AM, zen cycle wrote:
On 12/31/2025 10:09 AM, AMuzi wrote:
On 12/31/2025 4:01 AM, John B. wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 02:16:52 -0500, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 20:51:02 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 16:51:02 -0500, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 07:04:35 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 07:50:51 -0600, AMuzi
<am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 12/30/2025 4:10 AM, zen cycle wrote:
On 12/29/2025 11:11 PM, John B. wrote:
I read all the news about Beloved Leader all but invading >>>>>>>>>>>>> Venezuela
and claiming that the U.S. needs Greenland and assumed >>>>>>>>>>>>> that was just
Wonder Boy showing off.
Then I did a little research and it seems that Venezuela >>>>>>>>>>>>> has the
world's highest proven crude oil reserves, almost
surpassing those of
Saudi Arabia and US combined and that Greenland is-a widely >>>>>>>>>>>>> believed to
hold excellent potentials for a host of natural resources, >>>>>>>>>>>>> including
zinc, lead, gold, iron ore, heavy and light rare earth >>>>>>>>>>>>> elements,
copper as well as crude oil.
It might make one wonder whether drugs really is the problem. >>>>>>>>>>>>> --
There is no cause to wonder. Drugs are not the issue.
p.s. As I have mentioned here previously, from my direct >>>>>>>>>>> experience, every international flight at every airport all >>>>>>>>>>> day long every day carries contraband. The drug networks are >>>>>>>>>>> heavily invested in personnel among ground crews at both >>>>>>>>>>> ends and blowing up cigarette boing ts will not touch the big >>>>>>>>>>> end of the problem.
One solution is to ignore the blokes selling it and go after >>>>>>>>>> the guys
buying it.
The users are just stupid. The traffickers are bad, but a dead >>>>>>>>> trafficker is a good trafficker.
But we've just had a discussion about how wrong the death
penalty is.
As I see it, killing someone while they are strapped to a table is >>>>>>> different from killing them while they are committing a crime to >>>>>>> stop
them from completing the crime.
I like it. Lets be sure all the Police are informed, "don't arrest >>>>>> them, just shoot them."
--
cheers,
John B.
Oh, don't be obtuse.
In the moment, violence in defense of human life, yours or others,
is just and proper and well well established everywhere, always, in >>>>> every culture and era.
Bullshit. "shoot fist and ask questions later" is not justifiable.
You're assuming that the boats are carrying drugs because that's the
pabulum you've been fed.
to reiterate: If they can track, target, and destroy the boats they
can seize the boats. Better yet they could track them to their
destinations and intercede deeper into the smuggling operation. That
would answer the question without extra-judicial murders.
We crossed arguments there.
As regards state capital punishment, I hold that the various official
components (police, prosecutors, public defenders, juries and judges)
are neither competent not honest enough to avoid killing of
innocents. That bothers me enough to walk away from endorsing it.
(others say, well, to make an omelet...)
Mr Slocumb noted
killing someone while they are strapped to a table is
different from killing them while they are committing a
-a-acrime to stop them from completing the crime.
Which I found quite rational and I expressly replied with the general
principle, recognized in our laws, that
"violence in defense of human life, yours or others, is just and
proper and well well established "
Which is not at all "shoot first and ask questions later".
Hope that clears thing up a bit.
It would if there was proof that destroying the boats were in fact
forcing Americans to become addicts. This brings us back to immigrants
eating cats.
Again, domestic criminal law when facing threat to one's life or to
others is very well established.
This is not that.
In international waters it's foreign policy - a completely different realm.-a Interdiction of drug transport goes back just over a hundred
years whether you or I approve or not:
https://ecampusontario.pressbooks.pub/psychoactivedrugsandsociety/ chapter/6-1-history-of-international-drug-controls/
On 1/3/2026 9:32 AM, zen cycle wrote:
On 1/3/2026 9:50 AM, AMuzi wrote:
On 1/3/2026 6:51 AM, zen cycle wrote:
On 12/31/2025 1:16 AM, floriduh dumbass wrote:And again, the right-wing patsy revisionist history rears it's
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 20:51:14 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 09:17:16 -0500, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 07:45:11 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> >>>>>>>> wrote:
On 12/29/2025 10:11 PM, John B. wrote:
I read all the news about Beloved Leader all but invading >>>>>>>>>> Venezuela
and claiming that the U.S. needs Greenland and assumed that >>>>>>>>>> was just
Wonder Boy showing off.
Then I did a little research and it seems that Venezuela has the >>>>>>>>>> world's highest proven crude oil reserves, almost surpassing >>>>>>>>>> those of
Saudi Arabia and US combined and that Greenland is widely >>>>>>>>>> believed to
hold excellent potentials for a host of natural resources, >>>>>>>>>> including
zinc, lead, gold, iron ore, heavy and light rare earth elements, >>>>>>>>>> copper as well as crude oil.
It might make one wonder whether drugs really is the problem. >>>>>>>>>> --
cheers,
John B.
I was OK with enforcing sanctions of long (2005) standing of >>>>>>>>> oil transport in open waters but the drone bombing of docks
is an act of war, which seems to me a step too far. We'll
see...
Nothing new here....
Obama launched airstrikes or military raids in at least seven
countries: Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Yemen, Somalia and >>>>>>>> Pakistan.
And accompliahed?
Killed a lot of women and children...
ignorant head - You conveniently left out this, dumbass:
https://www.war.gov/Multimedia/Photos/igphoto/2002009777/
But according to you fucking idiots, the indiscriminate killing of
_suspected_ drug runners is a far more patriotic and justifiable act.
I'm OK with assassinating Mr Bin Laden but what's the moral/legal
difference?-a He was never tried, despite being obviously guilty, just
like the dope runners.
The differences is massively and glaringly obvious.
- The alleged drug runners are being executed without proof that they
are in fact running drugs into the US, and factually, there is little
evidence that the drugs in the pipeline that the US is targeting are
actually destined for the US. That doesn't consider the fact that the
users of the end product are by-and-large willing participants in the
enterprise. Drug running is a money-making operation - if there was no
market, there would be no operation
- Bin Laden planned, financed, and executed an attack against ordinary
Americans going about their daily lives, and admitted to it. It wasn't
about money, it was an ideological attack. He wasn't attempting to
profit from a willing market, he punished America/Americans for being
America/Americans. In that context, it's no different than trumps anti
immigration policy.
Well, I have noted here that Colombian drug transport undertaken of late
by Venezuela is a very small portion of the market.-a So the net effect
of removing some small portion of a small operation will be small at best.
That said, I think this administration sees it as a demonstration (I
don't know that) of power.
We'll see how the overall climate changes,
especially as regards last night's news.
(in war, the first three reports are-a wrong so I haven't digested this
news quite.)
All of which takes us back to Mr Slocumb's comment about various SE
Asian countries who execute dope users (demand side) as well as
traffickers (supply side).-a Are we ready for that?-a I'm not. Yet,
anyway.
That almost worked for Taiping and seems effective now in
Singapore...
On 12/31/2025 2:31 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 12/31/2025 1:21 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 09:12:51 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
(chomp)
A cigarette boat is utterly different in marine architecture
and the multiple high-HP engines are very thirsty.aa Which
is fine for that business because contraband operating
margins are much higher than fishing operations enjoy.
If the sea was fairly calm, a hydrofoil "recreational" boat might be
worth considering:
<https://www.google.com/search?q=recreational%20hydrofoil%20boat&udm=2>
Without the drag from the hull, the improvement in fuel efficiency is
spectacular.
<https://candela.com/blog/foiling-vs-floating-understanding-the-
differences-between-hydrofoil-boats-and-other-boats/>
"Foil boats achieve higher speeds and superior performance relative to
engine power, even in choppy waters, due to efficiency. By reducing
air and water resistance by up to 80%, hydrofoils enable faster speeds
and enhance stability against wave action."
Maybe someone here will forward that to Pablo Escobar's successors.
The correct address for that is https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump
On 1/3/2026 9:32 AM, zen cycle wrote:
On 1/3/2026 9:50 AM, AMuzi wrote:
On 1/3/2026 6:51 AM, zen cycle wrote:
On 12/31/2025 1:16 AM, floriduh dumbass wrote:And again, the right-wing patsy revisionist history rears
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 20:51:14 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 09:17:16 -0500, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 07:45:11 -0600, AMuzi
<am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 12/29/2025 10:11 PM, John B. wrote:
I read all the news about Beloved Leader all but
invading Venezuela
and claiming that the U.S. needs Greenland and
assumed that was just
Wonder Boy showing off.
Then I did a little research and it seems that
Venezuela has the
world's highest proven crude oil reserves, almost
surpassing those of
Saudi Arabia and US combined and that Greenland is
widely believed to
hold excellent potentials for a host of natural
resources, including
zinc, lead, gold, iron ore, heavy and light rare
earth elements,
copper as well as crude oil.
It might make one wonder whether drugs really is
the problem.
--
cheers,
John B.
I was OK with enforcing sanctions of long (2005)
standing of
oil transport in open waters but the drone bombing
of docks
is an act of war, which seems to me a step too far.
We'll
see...
Nothing new here....
Obama launched airstrikes or military raids in at
least seven
countries: Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Yemen,
Somalia and
Pakistan.
And accompliahed?
Killed a lot of women and children...
it's ignorant head - You conveniently left out this,
dumbass:
https://www.war.gov/Multimedia/Photos/igphoto/2002009777/
But according to you fucking idiots, the indiscriminate
killing of _suspected_ drug runners is a far more
patriotic and justifiable act.
I'm OK with assassinating Mr Bin Laden but what's the
moral/legal difference?a He was never tried, despite being
obviously guilty, just like the dope runners.
The differences is massively and glaringly obvious.
- The alleged drug runners are being executed without proof
that they are in fact running drugs into the US, and
factually, there is little evidence that the drugs in the
pipeline that the US is targeting are actually destined for
the US. That doesn't consider the fact that the users of the
end product are by-and-large willing participants in the
enterprise. Drug running is a money-making operation - if
there was no market, there would be no operation
- Bin Laden planned, financed, and executed an attack
against ordinary Americans going about their daily lives,
and admitted to it. It wasn't about money, it was an
ideological attack. He wasn't attempting to profit from a
willing market, he punished America/Americans for being
America/Americans. In that context, it's no different than
trumps anti immigration policy.
Well, I have noted here that Colombian drug transport
undertaken of late by Venezuela is a very small portion of
the market. So the net effect of removing some small
portion of a small operation will be small at best.
That said, I think this administration sees it as a
demonstration (I don't know that) of power. We'll see how
the overall climate changes, especially as regards last
night's news.
(in war, the first three reports are wrong so I haven't
digested this news quite.)
All of which takes us back to Mr Slocumb's comment about
various SE Asian countries who execute dope users (demand
side) as well as traffickers (supply side). Are we ready
for that? I'm not. Yet, anyway. That almost worked for
Taiping and seems effective now in Singapore...
On Sat, 3 Jan 2026 07:17:32 -0500, zen cycle
<funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 12/31/2025 2:31 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 12/31/2025 1:21 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 09:12:51 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote: >>>>
(chomp)
A cigarette boat is utterly different in marine architecture
and the multiple high-HP engines are very thirsty.aa Which
is fine for that business because contraband operating
margins are much higher than fishing operations enjoy.
If the sea was fairly calm, a hydrofoil "recreational" boat might be
worth considering:
<https://www.google.com/search?q=recreational%20hydrofoil%20boat&udm=2> >>>> Without the drag from the hull, the improvement in fuel efficiency is
spectacular.
<https://candela.com/blog/foiling-vs-floating-understanding-the-
differences-between-hydrofoil-boats-and-other-boats/>
"Foil boats achieve higher speeds and superior performance relative to >>>> engine power, even in choppy waters, due to efficiency. By reducing
air and water resistance by up to 80%, hydrofoils enable faster speeds >>>> and enhance stability against wave action."
Maybe someone here will forward that to Pablo Escobar's successors.
The correct address for that is https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump
That site is advertising "6 Piece Towel Set - $39.98"
On Sat, 03 Jan 2026 15:59:46 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Sat, 3 Jan 2026 07:17:32 -0500, zen cycle
<funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 12/31/2025 2:31 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 12/31/2025 1:21 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 09:12:51 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote: >>>>>
(chomp)
A cigarette boat is utterly different in marine architecture
and the multiple high-HP engines are very thirsty.aa Which
is fine for that business because contraband operating
margins are much higher than fishing operations enjoy.
If the sea was fairly calm, a hydrofoil "recreational" boat might be >>>>> worth considering:
<https://www.google.com/search?q=recreational%20hydrofoil%20boat&udm=2> >>>>> Without the drag from the hull, the improvement in fuel efficiency is >>>>> spectacular.
<https://candela.com/blog/foiling-vs-floating-understanding-the-
differences-between-hydrofoil-boats-and-other-boats/>
"Foil boats achieve higher speeds and superior performance relative to >>>>> engine power, even in choppy waters, due to efficiency. By reducing
air and water resistance by up to 80%, hydrofoils enable faster speeds >>>>> and enhance stability against wave action."
Maybe someone here will forward that to Pablo Escobar's successors.
The correct address for that is https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump
That site is advertising "6 Piece Towel Set - $39.98"
The latest news has it that:
CARACAS/NEW YORK - Venezuelan President Nicolas ?Maduro was in a New
York detention center on Sunday after President Donald Trump ordered
an ?audacious U.S. raid to capture the South American leader and take
control of the country.................. and its vast oil reserves.
Given the U.S. actions in their half of the world one can only assume
that there would be no objection to China taking the same action in
their half when dealing with Taiwan.
On Sat, 03 Jan 2026 23:09:57 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Sat, 03 Jan 2026 15:59:46 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Sat, 3 Jan 2026 07:17:32 -0500, zen cycle
<funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 12/31/2025 2:31 PM, AMuzi wrote:That site is advertising "6 Piece Towel Set - $39.98"
On 12/31/2025 1:21 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 09:12:51 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote: >>>>>>
(chomp)
A cigarette boat is utterly different in marine architecture
and the multiple high-HP engines are very thirsty.aa Which
is fine for that business because contraband operating
margins are much higher than fishing operations enjoy.
If the sea was fairly calm, a hydrofoil "recreational" boat might be >>>>>> worth considering:
<https://www.google.com/search?q=recreational%20hydrofoil%20boat&udm=2> >>>>>> Without the drag from the hull, the improvement in fuel efficiency is >>>>>> spectacular.
<https://candela.com/blog/foiling-vs-floating-understanding-the-
differences-between-hydrofoil-boats-and-other-boats/>
"Foil boats achieve higher speeds and superior performance relative to >>>>>> engine power, even in choppy waters, due to efficiency. By reducing >>>>>> air and water resistance by up to 80%, hydrofoils enable faster speeds >>>>>> and enhance stability against wave action."
Maybe someone here will forward that to Pablo Escobar's successors.
The correct address for that is https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump >>>
The latest news has it that:
CARACAS/NEW YORK - Venezuelan President Nicolas ?Maduro was in a New
York detention center on Sunday after President Donald Trump ordered
an ?audacious U.S. raid to capture the South American leader and take >>control of the country.................. and its vast oil reserves.
Given the U.S. actions in their half of the world one can only assume
that there would be no objection to China taking the same action in
their half when dealing with Taiwan.
Two very different situations.
On Sat, 3 Jan 2026 07:17:32 -0500, zen cycleMaybe in Thailand.....
<funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 12/31/2025 2:31 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 12/31/2025 1:21 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 09:12:51 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote: >>>>
(chomp)
A cigarette boat is utterly different in marine architecture
and the multiple high-HP engines are very thirsty.-a-a Which
is fine for that business because contraband operating
margins are much higher than fishing operations enjoy.
If the sea was fairly calm, a hydrofoil "recreational" boat might be
worth considering:
<https://www.google.com/search?q=recreational%20hydrofoil%20boat&udm=2> >>>> Without the drag from the hull, the improvement in fuel efficiency is
spectacular.
<https://candela.com/blog/foiling-vs-floating-understanding-the-
differences-between-hydrofoil-boats-and-other-boats/>
"Foil boats achieve higher speeds and superior performance relative to >>>> engine power, even in choppy waters, due to efficiency. By reducing
air and water resistance by up to 80%, hydrofoils enable faster speeds >>>> and enhance stability against wave action."
Maybe someone here will forward that to Pablo Escobar's successors.
The correct address for that is https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump
That site is advertising "6 Piece Towel Set - $39.98"
--
On 1/3/2026 6:59 PM, John B. wrote:
On Sat, 3 Jan 2026 07:17:32 -0500, zen cycleMaybe in Thailand.....
<funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 12/31/2025 2:31 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 12/31/2025 1:21 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 09:12:51 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote: >>>>>
(chomp)
A cigarette boat is utterly different in marine architecture
and the multiple high-HP engines are very thirsty.aa Which
is fine for that business because contraband operating
margins are much higher than fishing operations enjoy.
If the sea was fairly calm, a hydrofoil "recreational" boat might be >>>>> worth considering:
<https://www.google.com/search?q=recreational%20hydrofoil%20boat&udm=2> >>>>> Without the drag from the hull, the improvement in fuel efficiency is >>>>> spectacular.
<https://candela.com/blog/foiling-vs-floating-understanding-the-
differences-between-hydrofoil-boats-and-other-boats/>
"Foil boats achieve higher speeds and superior performance relative to >>>>> engine power, even in choppy waters, due to efficiency. By reducing
air and water resistance by up to 80%, hydrofoils enable faster speeds >>>>> and enhance stability against wave action."
Maybe someone here will forward that to Pablo Escobar's successors.
The correct address for that is https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump
That site is advertising "6 Piece Towel Set - $39.98"
--
On Sun, 04 Jan 2026 03:11:44 -0500, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Sat, 03 Jan 2026 23:09:57 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Sat, 03 Jan 2026 15:59:46 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Sat, 3 Jan 2026 07:17:32 -0500, zen cycle
<funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 12/31/2025 2:31 PM, AMuzi wrote:That site is advertising "6 Piece Towel Set - $39.98"
On 12/31/2025 1:21 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 09:12:51 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote: >>>>>>>
(chomp)
A cigarette boat is utterly different in marine architecture
and the multiple high-HP engines are very thirsty.aa Which
is fine for that business because contraband operating
margins are much higher than fishing operations enjoy.
If the sea was fairly calm, a hydrofoil "recreational" boat might be >>>>>>> worth considering:
<https://www.google.com/search?q=recreational%20hydrofoil%20boat&udm=2> >>>>>>> Without the drag from the hull, the improvement in fuel efficiency is >>>>>>> spectacular.
<https://candela.com/blog/foiling-vs-floating-understanding-the- >>>>>>> differences-between-hydrofoil-boats-and-other-boats/>
"Foil boats achieve higher speeds and superior performance relative to >>>>>>> engine power, even in choppy waters, due to efficiency. By reducing >>>>>>> air and water resistance by up to 80%, hydrofoils enable faster speeds >>>>>>> and enhance stability against wave action."
Maybe someone here will forward that to Pablo Escobar's successors. >>>>>>
The correct address for that is https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump >>>>
The latest news has it that:
CARACAS/NEW YORK - Venezuelan President Nicolas ?Maduro was in a New
York detention center on Sunday after President Donald Trump ordered
an ?audacious U.S. raid to capture the South American leader and take >>>control of the country.................. and its vast oil reserves.
Given the U.S. actions in their half of the world one can only assume >>>that there would be no objection to China taking the same action in
their half when dealing with Taiwan.
Two very different situations.
How different? The U.S. didn't like the government in Venezuela so the >invaded and are taking over running the country. So why not China
taking over Taiwan? After all Taiwan belonged to China during some
periods while
Venezuela never belonged to the US.
On Sun, 4 Jan 2026 06:11:13 -0500, zen cycle
<funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 1/3/2026 6:59 PM, John B. wrote:
On Sat, 3 Jan 2026 07:17:32 -0500, zen cycleMaybe in Thailand.....
<funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 12/31/2025 2:31 PM, AMuzi wrote:That site is advertising "6 Piece Towel Set - $39.98"
On 12/31/2025 1:21 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 09:12:51 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote: >>>>>>
(chomp)
A cigarette boat is utterly different in marine architecture
and the multiple high-HP engines are very thirsty.-a-a Which
is fine for that business because contraband operating
margins are much higher than fishing operations enjoy.
If the sea was fairly calm, a hydrofoil "recreational" boat might be >>>>>> worth considering:
<https://www.google.com/search?q=recreational%20hydrofoil%20boat&udm=2> >>>>>> Without the drag from the hull, the improvement in fuel efficiency is >>>>>> spectacular.
<https://candela.com/blog/foiling-vs-floating-understanding-the-
differences-between-hydrofoil-boats-and-other-boats/>
"Foil boats achieve higher speeds and superior performance relative to >>>>>> engine power, even in choppy waters, due to efficiency. By reducing >>>>>> air and water resistance by up to 80%, hydrofoils enable faster speeds >>>>>> and enhance stability against wave action."
Maybe someone here will forward that to Pablo Escobar's successors.
The correct address for that is https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump >>>
--
Well..... It was the internet.... is that limited to Thailand?
I tried it again and it shows a page stating
"TRUTH realdonaldtrm"
--
cheers,
John B.
On Sat, 03 Jan 2026 15:59:46 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Sat, 3 Jan 2026 07:17:32 -0500, zen cycle
<funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 12/31/2025 2:31 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 12/31/2025 1:21 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 09:12:51 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote: >>>>>
(chomp)
A cigarette boat is utterly different in marine architecture
and the multiple high-HP engines are very thirsty.-a-a Which
is fine for that business because contraband operating
margins are much higher than fishing operations enjoy.
If the sea was fairly calm, a hydrofoil "recreational" boat might be >>>>> worth considering:
<https://www.google.com/search?q=recreational%20hydrofoil%20boat&udm=2> >>>>> Without the drag from the hull, the improvement in fuel efficiency is >>>>> spectacular.
<https://candela.com/blog/foiling-vs-floating-understanding-the-
differences-between-hydrofoil-boats-and-other-boats/>
"Foil boats achieve higher speeds and superior performance relative to >>>>> engine power, even in choppy waters, due to efficiency. By reducing
air and water resistance by up to 80%, hydrofoils enable faster speeds >>>>> and enhance stability against wave action."
Maybe someone here will forward that to Pablo Escobar's successors.
The correct address for that is https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump
That site is advertising "6 Piece Towel Set - $39.98"
The latest news has it that:
CARACAS/NEW YORK - Venezuelan President Nicolas ?Maduro was in a New
York detention center on Sunday after President Donald Trump ordered
an ?audacious U.S. raid to capture the South American leader and take
control of the country.................. and its vast oil reserves.
Given the U.S. actions in their half of the world one can only assume
that there would be no objection to China taking the same action in
their half when dealing with Taiwan.
--
cheers,
John B.
On Thu, 1 Jan 2026 07:28:30 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
I'm afraid that John doesn't believe that the DEA knows their business but he from his wheelchair in Thailand knows more than the people whose job it is. I suppose I have to ask why that is?You make the call:
https://merryjane.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/1570208740688_a1cokesqu.jpg
https://tinyurl.com/mw9n84c4
Reference shows some boxes in the water. No indication what's in the
boxes.
Reference shows something that might be part of a boat or something
else.
Nether gives any indication that it is dope.
If they can track, target, and destroy the boats they can seize theIt is legal to kill terrorists. Or was it perfectly OK for Obama to do it in Afghanistan?
boats. Better yet they could track them to their destinations and
intercede deeper into the smuggling operation. That would answer the
question without extra-judicial murders.
Is there any proof that the boats are actually carrying dope? Or is itFrom your comments I am getting the idea that you staied in Thailand because you are an addict and it is easy to obtain drugs there.
a matter of "every one knows"?
I guess we'll just have to trust trump.Why not? You trusted Obama when he expanded Afghanistan and Biden when he left all of the weapons from high energy artillary to tanks behind for the Afghanis to sell on the open market to terrorists all over the world. Flunky, you POS, tell us how Trump is differednt? Is it because President Trump is working for America and not the terrorists that you admire so much. Believe me, prey that I never am in the same city as you.
Ask Liebermann what the laws are about threatening people over the Internet.
On Wed Dec 31 21:34:18 2025 John B. wrote:
Is there any proof that the boats are actually carrying dope? Or is it
a matter of "every one knows"?
From your comments I am getting the idea that you staied in Thailand because you are an addict and it is easy to obtain drugs there.
On Sun, 04 Jan 2026 02:17:32 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Sun, 04 Jan 2026 03:11:44 -0500, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Sat, 03 Jan 2026 23:09:57 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Sat, 03 Jan 2026 15:59:46 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Sat, 3 Jan 2026 07:17:32 -0500, zen cycle >>>>><funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 12/31/2025 2:31 PM, AMuzi wrote:That site is advertising "6 Piece Towel Set - $39.98"
On 12/31/2025 1:21 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 09:12:51 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>
(chomp)
A cigarette boat is utterly different in marine architecture >>>>>>>>> and the multiple high-HP engines are very thirsty.aa Which
is fine for that business because contraband operating
margins are much higher than fishing operations enjoy.
If the sea was fairly calm, a hydrofoil "recreational" boat might be >>>>>>>> worth considering:
<https://www.google.com/search?q=recreational%20hydrofoil%20boat&udm=2>
Without the drag from the hull, the improvement in fuel efficiency is >>>>>>>> spectacular.
<https://candela.com/blog/foiling-vs-floating-understanding-the- >>>>>>>> differences-between-hydrofoil-boats-and-other-boats/>
"Foil boats achieve higher speeds and superior performance relative to >>>>>>>> engine power, even in choppy waters, due to efficiency. By reducing >>>>>>>> air and water resistance by up to 80%, hydrofoils enable faster speeds >>>>>>>> and enhance stability against wave action."
Maybe someone here will forward that to Pablo Escobar's successors. >>>>>>>
The correct address for that is https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump >>>>>
The latest news has it that:
CARACAS/NEW YORK - Venezuelan President Nicolas ?Maduro was in a New >>>>York detention center on Sunday after President Donald Trump ordered
an ?audacious U.S. raid to capture the South American leader and take >>>>control of the country.................. and its vast oil reserves.
Given the U.S. actions in their half of the world one can only assume >>>>that there would be no objection to China taking the same action in >>>>their half when dealing with Taiwan.
Two very different situations.
How different? The U.S. didn't like the government in Venezuela so the >>invaded and are taking over running the country. So why not China
taking over Taiwan? After all Taiwan belonged to China during some
periods while
Venezuela never belonged to the US.
Unlike Venezuela, the government along with the citizens of Taiwan
want to ally with the USA.
Unlike Venezuela, the citizens of Taiwan are prosperous and support
their government.
Unlike Venezuela, the government of Taiwan is not headed by a dictator
who seized power illegally.
Unlike Venezuela, the Republic of China is not engaged in illegal drug
trade.
Unlike Venezuela, the Republic of China has not illegally seized--
property belonging to US businesses.
On Sun, 04 Jan 2026 09:31:23 -0500, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Sun, 04 Jan 2026 02:17:32 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Sun, 04 Jan 2026 03:11:44 -0500, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Sat, 03 Jan 2026 23:09:57 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Sat, 03 Jan 2026 15:59:46 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Sat, 3 Jan 2026 07:17:32 -0500, zen cycle
<funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 12/31/2025 2:31 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 12/31/2025 1:21 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 09:12:51 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
(chomp)
A cigarette boat is utterly different in marine architecture >>>>>>>>>> and the multiple high-HP engines are very thirsty.-a-a Which >>>>>>>>>> is fine for that business because contraband operating
margins are much higher than fishing operations enjoy.
If the sea was fairly calm, a hydrofoil "recreational" boat might be >>>>>>>>> worth considering:
<https://www.google.com/search?q=recreational%20hydrofoil%20boat&udm=2>
Without the drag from the hull, the improvement in fuel efficiency is >>>>>>>>> spectacular.
<https://candela.com/blog/foiling-vs-floating-understanding-the- >>>>>>>>> differences-between-hydrofoil-boats-and-other-boats/>
"Foil boats achieve higher speeds and superior performance relative to
engine power, even in choppy waters, due to efficiency. By reducing >>>>>>>>> air and water resistance by up to 80%, hydrofoils enable faster speeds
and enhance stability against wave action."
Maybe someone here will forward that to Pablo Escobar's successors. >>>>>>>>
The correct address for that is https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump
That site is advertising "6 Piece Towel Set - $39.98"
The latest news has it that:
CARACAS/NEW YORK - Venezuelan President Nicolas ?Maduro was in a New >>>>> York detention center on Sunday after President Donald Trump ordered >>>>> an ?audacious U.S. raid to capture the South American leader and take >>>>> control of the country.................. and its vast oil reserves.
Given the U.S. actions in their half of the world one can only assume >>>>> that there would be no objection to China taking the same action in
their half when dealing with Taiwan.
Two very different situations.
How different? The U.S. didn't like the government in Venezuela so the
invaded and are taking over running the country. So why not China
taking over Taiwan? After all Taiwan belonged to China during some
periods while
Venezuela never belonged to the US.
Unlike Venezuela, the government along with the citizens of Taiwan
want to ally with the USA.
Unlike Venezuela, the citizens of Taiwan are prosperous and support
their government.
Unlike Venezuela, the government of Taiwan is not headed by a dictator
who seized power illegally.
Taiwan suffered under a dictatorship for 40 years with the military
putting down oppression with gun fire. As many as an estimated 18,000rCo28,000 were said to have been killed in one incident. Against a government headed by the good buddy of the U.S., Chiang Kai-shek.
Unlike Venezuela, the Republic of China is not engaged in illegal drug
trade.
The People's Republic of China (PRC) on October 1, 1949, with Mao
Zedong as its leader.
More commonly referred to as Communist China.
--
Unlike Venezuela, the Republic of China has not illegally seized
property belonging to US businesses.
cheers,
John B.
On Thu Jan 1 06:43:23 2026 John B. wrote:
On Thu, 1 Jan 2026 07:28:30 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
You make the call:
https://merryjane.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/1570208740688_a1cokesqu.jpg
https://tinyurl.com/mw9n84c4
Reference shows some boxes in the water. No indication what's in the
boxes.
Reference shows something that might be part of a boat or something
else.
Nether gives any indication that it is dope.
I'm afraid that John doesn't believe that the DEA knows their business but he from his wheelchair in Thailand knows more than the people whose job it is. I suppose I have to ask why that is?
On Sat Jan 3 07:34:25 2026 zen cycle wrote:
If they can track, target, and destroy the boats they can seize the
boats. Better yet they could track them to their destinations and
intercede deeper into the smuggling operation. That would answer the
question without extra-judicial murders.
It is legal to kill terrorists. Or was it perfectly OK for Obama to do it in Afghanistan?
On Sun, 04 Jan 2026 09:31:23 -0500, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Sun, 04 Jan 2026 02:17:32 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Sun, 04 Jan 2026 03:11:44 -0500, Catrike Ryder >>><Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Sat, 03 Jan 2026 23:09:57 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Sat, 03 Jan 2026 15:59:46 -0800, John B. >>>>><jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Sat, 3 Jan 2026 07:17:32 -0500, zen cycle >>>>>><funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 12/31/2025 2:31 PM, AMuzi wrote:That site is advertising "6 Piece Towel Set - $39.98"
On 12/31/2025 1:21 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 09:12:51 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
(chomp)
A cigarette boat is utterly different in marine architecture >>>>>>>>>> and the multiple high-HP engines are very thirsty.aa Which >>>>>>>>>> is fine for that business because contraband operating
margins are much higher than fishing operations enjoy.
If the sea was fairly calm, a hydrofoil "recreational" boat might be >>>>>>>>> worth considering:
<https://www.google.com/search?q=recreational%20hydrofoil%20boat&udm=2>
Without the drag from the hull, the improvement in fuel efficiency is >>>>>>>>> spectacular.
<https://candela.com/blog/foiling-vs-floating-understanding-the- >>>>>>>>> differences-between-hydrofoil-boats-and-other-boats/>
"Foil boats achieve higher speeds and superior performance relative to
engine power, even in choppy waters, due to efficiency. By reducing >>>>>>>>> air and water resistance by up to 80%, hydrofoils enable faster speeds
and enhance stability against wave action."
Maybe someone here will forward that to Pablo Escobar's successors. >>>>>>>>
The correct address for that is https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump >>>>>>
The latest news has it that:
CARACAS/NEW YORK - Venezuelan President Nicolas ?Maduro was in a New >>>>>York detention center on Sunday after President Donald Trump ordered >>>>>an ?audacious U.S. raid to capture the South American leader and take >>>>>control of the country.................. and its vast oil reserves.
Given the U.S. actions in their half of the world one can only assume >>>>>that there would be no objection to China taking the same action in >>>>>their half when dealing with Taiwan.
Two very different situations.
How different? The U.S. didn't like the government in Venezuela so the >>>invaded and are taking over running the country. So why not China
taking over Taiwan? After all Taiwan belonged to China during some >>>periods while
Venezuela never belonged to the US.
Unlike Venezuela, the government along with the citizens of Taiwan
want to ally with the USA.
Unlike Venezuela, the citizens of Taiwan are prosperous and support
their government.
Unlike Venezuela, the government of Taiwan is not headed by a dictator
who seized power illegally.
Taiwan suffered under a dictatorship for 40 years with the military
putting down oppression with gun fire. As many as an estimated
18,000u28,000 were said to have been killed in one incident. Against a >government headed by the good buddy of the U.S., Chiang Kai-shek.
Unlike Venezuela, the Republic of China is not engaged in illegal drug >>trade.
The People's Republic of China (PRC) on October 1, 1949, with Mao
Zedong as its leader.
More commonly referred to as Communist China.
Unlike Venezuela, the Republic of China has not illegally seized
property belonging to US businesses.
On 1/4/2026 7:26 PM, John B. wrote:
On Sun, 04 Jan 2026 09:31:23 -0500, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Sun, 04 Jan 2026 02:17:32 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Sun, 04 Jan 2026 03:11:44 -0500, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Sat, 03 Jan 2026 23:09:57 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Sat, 03 Jan 2026 15:59:46 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Sat, 3 Jan 2026 07:17:32 -0500, zen cycle
<funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 12/31/2025 2:31 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 12/31/2025 1:21 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 09:12:51 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
(chomp)
A cigarette boat is utterly different in marine architecture >>>>>>>>>>> and the multiple high-HP engines are very thirsty.aa Which >>>>>>>>>>> is fine for that business because contraband operating
margins are much higher than fishing operations enjoy.
If the sea was fairly calm, a hydrofoil "recreational" boat might be >>>>>>>>>> worth considering:
<https://www.google.com/search?q=recreational%20hydrofoil%20boat&udm=2>
Without the drag from the hull, the improvement in fuel efficiency is
spectacular.
<https://candela.com/blog/foiling-vs-floating-understanding-the- >>>>>>>>>> differences-between-hydrofoil-boats-and-other-boats/>
"Foil boats achieve higher speeds and superior performance relative to
engine power, even in choppy waters, due to efficiency. By reducing >>>>>>>>>> air and water resistance by up to 80%, hydrofoils enable faster speeds
and enhance stability against wave action."
Maybe someone here will forward that to Pablo Escobar's successors. >>>>>>>>>
The correct address for that is https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump
That site is advertising "6 Piece Towel Set - $39.98"
The latest news has it that:
CARACAS/NEW YORK - Venezuelan President Nicolas ?Maduro was in a New >>>>>> York detention center on Sunday after President Donald Trump ordered >>>>>> an ?audacious U.S. raid to capture the South American leader and take >>>>>> control of the country.................. and its vast oil reserves. >>>>>>
Given the U.S. actions in their half of the world one can only assume >>>>>> that there would be no objection to China taking the same action in >>>>>> their half when dealing with Taiwan.
Two very different situations.
How different? The U.S. didn't like the government in Venezuela so the >>>> invaded and are taking over running the country. So why not China
taking over Taiwan? After all Taiwan belonged to China during some
periods while
Venezuela never belonged to the US.
Unlike Venezuela, the government along with the citizens of Taiwan
want to ally with the USA.
Unlike Venezuela, the citizens of Taiwan are prosperous and support
their government.
Unlike Venezuela, the government of Taiwan is not headed by a dictator
who seized power illegally.
Taiwan suffered under a dictatorship for 40 years with the military
putting down oppression with gun fire. As many as an estimated
18,000u28,000 were said to have been killed in one incident. Against a
government headed by the good buddy of the U.S., Chiang Kai-shek.
Unlike Venezuela, the Republic of China is not engaged in illegal drug
trade.
The People's Republic of China (PRC) on October 1, 1949, with Mao
Zedong as its leader.
More commonly referred to as Communist China.
--
Unlike Venezuela, the Republic of China has not illegally seized
property belonging to US businesses.
cheers,
John B.
I didn't reply earlier as there are a whole host of errors.
Republic of China (founded by Sun Yat Sen, en enlightened
genius and patriot) presently consists of Formosa and some
small nearby islands. It's otherwise known as Taiwan or
Taiwan ROC.
The People's Republic of China is on the mainland, otherwise
known as PRC or Red China. It's wholly owned by the Chinese
Communist Party (CCP) and the PLA (Chinese military) is the
army of the Party, not the nation.
PRC is indeed a major player in the drug trade, supplying
the bulk of precursors to the Mexican fentanyl and meth
operations, among others.
On Sun, 04 Jan 2026 09:31:23 -0500, floriduh dumbass <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
Unlike Venezuela, the Republic of China is not engaged in illegal drug
trade.
On Sun, 4 Jan 2026 06:11:13 -0500, zen cycle
<funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 1/3/2026 6:59 PM, John B. wrote:
On Sat, 3 Jan 2026 07:17:32 -0500, zen cycleMaybe in Thailand.....
<funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 12/31/2025 2:31 PM, AMuzi wrote:That site is advertising "6 Piece Towel Set - $39.98"
On 12/31/2025 1:21 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 09:12:51 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote: >>>>>>
(chomp)
A cigarette boat is utterly different in marine architecture
and the multiple high-HP engines are very thirsty.-a-a Which
is fine for that business because contraband operating
margins are much higher than fishing operations enjoy.
If the sea was fairly calm, a hydrofoil "recreational" boat might be >>>>>> worth considering:
<https://www.google.com/search?q=recreational%20hydrofoil%20boat&udm=2> >>>>>> Without the drag from the hull, the improvement in fuel efficiency is >>>>>> spectacular.
<https://candela.com/blog/foiling-vs-floating-understanding-the-
differences-between-hydrofoil-boats-and-other-boats/>
"Foil boats achieve higher speeds and superior performance relative to >>>>>> engine power, even in choppy waters, due to efficiency. By reducing >>>>>> air and water resistance by up to 80%, hydrofoils enable faster speeds >>>>>> and enhance stability against wave action."
Maybe someone here will forward that to Pablo Escobar's successors.
The correct address for that is https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump >>>
--
Well..... It was the internet.... is that limited to Thailand?
I tried it again and it shows a page stating
"TRUTH realdonaldtrm"
--
cheers,
John B.
On Sun, 04 Jan 2026 23:40:31 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
Ask Liebermann what the laws are about threatening people over the Internet.
On Sun, 04 Jan 2026 09:31:23 -0500, floriduh dumbass
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
Unlike Venezuela, the Republic of China is not engaged in illegal drug
trade.
What fucking idiot...that's kunich level stupidity.
https://www.dea.gov/press-releases/2024/10/24/china-based-chemical-manufacturing-companies-and-employees-indicted
And are you so deluded from TDS that you've forgotten all about your
orange leaders tariff threats unless China takes more decisive action >against fentanyl trade?
On Sun, 04 Jan 2026 09:31:23 -0500, floriduh dumbass
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
Unlike Venezuela, the Republic of China is not engaged in illegal drug
trade.
What fucking idiot...that's kunich level stupidity.
https://www.dea.gov/press-releases/2024/10/24/china-based-chemical-manufacturing-companies-and-employees-indicted
And are you so deluded from TDS that you've forgotten all about your
orange leaders tariff threats unless China takes more decisive action >against fentanyl trade?
On Mon, 5 Jan 2026 06:00:53 -0500, zen cycle
<funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 04 Jan 2026 09:31:23 -0500, floriduh dumbass
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
Unlike Venezuela, the Republic of China is not engaged in illegal drug >>>> trade.
What fucking idiot...that's kunich level stupidity.
https://www.dea.gov/press-releases/2024/10/24/china-based-chemical-manufacturing-companies-and-employees-indicted
And are you so deluded from TDS that you've forgotten all about your >>orange leaders tariff threats unless China takes more decisive action >>against fentanyl trade?
From what I'm reading the big time drug dealing is moving out of China
and into countries like Laos, Cambodia and northern Myanmar probably
because of the lack of law enforcement there.
On Sun, 04 Jan 2026 22:20:59 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Sat Jan 3 07:34:25 2026 zen cycle wrote:But what is a terrorist? The guy on the corner where you get yours?
If they can track, target, and destroy the boats they can seize the
boats. Better yet they could track them to their destinations and
intercede deeper into the smuggling operation. That would answer the
question without extra-judicial murders.
It is legal to kill terrorists. Or was it perfectly OK for Obama to do it in Afghanistan?
But more to the point, the US in Afghanistan was "to destroy al-Qaeda
and remove the Taliban regime"...al-Qaeda were those loveable chaps
that gave the U.S. "9/11" were they not?
--
cheers,
John B.
On Sun, 4 Jan 2026 19:53:05 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 1/4/2026 7:26 PM, John B. wrote:
On Sun, 04 Jan 2026 09:31:23 -0500, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Sun, 04 Jan 2026 02:17:32 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Sun, 04 Jan 2026 03:11:44 -0500, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Sat, 03 Jan 2026 23:09:57 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Sat, 03 Jan 2026 15:59:46 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Sat, 3 Jan 2026 07:17:32 -0500, zen cycle
<funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 12/31/2025 2:31 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 12/31/2025 1:21 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 09:12:51 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
(chomp)
A cigarette boat is utterly different in marine architecture >>>>>>>>>>>> and the multiple high-HP engines are very thirsty.-a-a Which >>>>>>>>>>>> is fine for that business because contraband operating >>>>>>>>>>>> margins are much higher than fishing operations enjoy.
If the sea was fairly calm, a hydrofoil "recreational" boat might be
worth considering:
<https://www.google.com/search?q=recreational%20hydrofoil%20boat&udm=2>
Without the drag from the hull, the improvement in fuel efficiency is
spectacular.
<https://candela.com/blog/foiling-vs-floating-understanding-the- >>>>>>>>>>> differences-between-hydrofoil-boats-and-other-boats/>
"Foil boats achieve higher speeds and superior performance relative to
engine power, even in choppy waters, due to efficiency. By reducing >>>>>>>>>>> air and water resistance by up to 80%, hydrofoils enable faster speeds
and enhance stability against wave action."
Maybe someone here will forward that to Pablo Escobar's successors. >>>>>>>>>>
The correct address for that is https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump
That site is advertising "6 Piece Towel Set - $39.98"
The latest news has it that:
CARACAS/NEW YORK - Venezuelan President Nicolas ?Maduro was in a New >>>>>>> York detention center on Sunday after President Donald Trump ordered >>>>>>> an ?audacious U.S. raid to capture the South American leader and take >>>>>>> control of the country.................. and its vast oil reserves. >>>>>>>
Given the U.S. actions in their half of the world one can only assume >>>>>>> that there would be no objection to China taking the same action in >>>>>>> their half when dealing with Taiwan.
Two very different situations.
How different? The U.S. didn't like the government in Venezuela so the >>>>> invaded and are taking over running the country. So why not China
taking over Taiwan? After all Taiwan belonged to China during some
periods while
Venezuela never belonged to the US.
Unlike Venezuela, the government along with the citizens of Taiwan
want to ally with the USA.
Unlike Venezuela, the citizens of Taiwan are prosperous and support
their government.
Unlike Venezuela, the government of Taiwan is not headed by a dictator >>>> who seized power illegally.
Taiwan suffered under a dictatorship for 40 years with the military
putting down oppression with gun fire. As many as an estimated
18,000rCo28,000 were said to have been killed in one incident. Against a >>> government headed by the good buddy of the U.S., Chiang Kai-shek.
Unlike Venezuela, the Republic of China is not engaged in illegal drug >>>> trade.
The People's Republic of China (PRC) on October 1, 1949, with Mao
Zedong as its leader.
More commonly referred to as Communist China.
--
Unlike Venezuela, the Republic of China has not illegally seized
property belonging to US businesses.
cheers,
John B.
I didn't reply earlier as there are a whole host of errors.
Republic of China (founded by Sun Yat Sen, en enlightened
genius and patriot) presently consists of Formosa and some
small nearby islands. It's otherwise known as Taiwan or
Taiwan ROC.
The People's Republic of China is on the mainland, otherwise
known as PRC or Red China. It's wholly owned by the Chinese
Communist Party (CCP) and the PLA (Chinese military) is the
army of the Party, not the nation.
PRC is indeed a major player in the drug trade, supplying
the bulk of precursors to the Mexican fentanyl and meth
operations, among others.
I specifically defined the ROC as the Taiwan government, which is, as
I said, not run by a dictator and does not deal in illegal drugs. What
I posted is correct.
--
C'est bon
Soloman
On Mon, 05 Jan 2026 03:52:56 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Mon, 5 Jan 2026 06:00:53 -0500, zen cycle
<funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 04 Jan 2026 09:31:23 -0500, floriduh dumbass
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
Unlike Venezuela, the Republic of China is not engaged in illegal drug >>>>> trade.
What fucking idiot...that's kunich level stupidity.
https://www.dea.gov/press-releases/2024/10/24/china-based-chemical-manufacturing-companies-and-employees-indicted
And are you so deluded from TDS that you've forgotten all about your
orange leaders tariff threats unless China takes more decisive action
against fentanyl trade?
From what I'm reading the big time drug dealing is moving out of China
and into countries like Laos, Cambodia and northern Myanmar probably
because of the lack of law enforcement there.
The People's Republic of China (PRC) is deep into drug dealing, the
Republic of China (ROC Taiwan) is not.
--
C'est bon
Soloman
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 20:27:41 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Mon Dec 29 20:11:29 2025 John B. wrote:
I read all the news about Beloved Leader all but invading Venezuela
and claiming that the U.S. needs Greenland and assumed that was just
Wonder Boy showing off.
Then I did a little research and it seems that Venezuela has the
world's highest proven crude oil reserves, almost surpassing those of
Saudi Arabia and US combined and that Greenland is widely believed to
hold excellent potentials for a host of natural resources, including
zinc, lead, gold, iron ore, heavy and light rare earth elements,
copper as well as crude oil.
It might make one wonder whether drugs really is the problem.
Batteries which were by far the largest users of rare earths have evolved to sodium and aluminum. The use of rare earths is now miniscule 5o what it was. Why are you talking about it since the Chinese are the ones using rare earths now?It's all a conspiracy John, no one cares that 200 people were being killed every day byFentanyl, least of all, you. You-re only interested in talking about things you don't understand.
Presently and for the foreseeable future the US is producing more oil than it needs. My wife's father came from Texas and owned a small farm there that they drill for oil on. She and her two siblings are still being paid $200 each per month after 100 years for their small portion of the commission.
Since you seem to have missed it - The USA is at war on international terrorism. Venezuelan President now and for the foreseeable future is a member if a major drug cartel who used terrorism and election fraud to gain and retain office. As the Democrats have been doing here. How do you suppose that So many people Have been killed with so little reaction from Obama or Biden who were bring on judges that were releasing murders and high end drug pushers out on the street and not prosecuting them?
Tell us again how without any serious experimental test drilling how anyone could say that Iceland (which is part of the North American continental mass and politically under the protection of the USA) could have any extensive oil?
If you don't like President Trump just say so, don't invent crimes that aren't and never were committed. You are sounding like Liebernabb and Flunky.
Wells,see...
Election fraud.... Acording to your posts election fraud is quite
common in the U.S. Note the "your posts".
Re Greenland (not Iceland).....
Detailed mapping collaborations and explorations carried out over more
than a century have uncovered evidence of important mineral resources
in Greenland ? including rare earth elements and critical minerals
used for green energy technologies, as well as suspected fossil fuel reserves.
The oil companies have nethods of determining the possibility of oil
and where the deposits are with out drilling.
On Sun, 04 Jan 2026 23:40:31 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>I'm waiting the charges stupid.
wrote:
Ask Liebermann what the laws are about threatening people over the Internet.
The stuff I posted previously, about you threatening readers in RBT,
were quotes from the Google Terms of Service. However, since I posted
those quotes (good of you to remember), you have switched to
NewsHosting.com, which has no terms of service that I could find: <https://www.newshosting.com>
I'm not very familiar with how online threats are handled in
California. So, I did some searching and reading.
"Are Online Threats to Others a Crime?" <https://www.bruzzolaw.com/blog/are-online-threats-to-others-a-crime/> "Online threats and harassment are taken very seriously in California,
and if you are convicted of these crimes, you may have to pay high
fines and even spend time behind bars."
If you want (or need) legal advice, I suggest that you ask your
attorney.
Incidentally, I created a short list of your past threats in RBT at: <https://www.learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/crud/Tom-Kunich-list-of-threats.txt> You might show them to your attorney.
On Sun, 04 Jan 2026 23:40:31 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
Ask Liebermann what the laws are about threatening people over the Internet.
You should know by know, they've been explained to you often enough
after your repeated threats of death and violenece
On Wed Dec 31 21:35:53 2025 John B. wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 20:27:41 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Mon Dec 29 20:11:29 2025 John B. wrote:
I read all the news about Beloved Leader all but invading Venezuela
and claiming that the U.S. needs Greenland and assumed that was just
Wonder Boy showing off.
Then I did a little research and it seems that Venezuela has the
world's highest proven crude oil reserves, almost surpassing those of
Saudi Arabia and US combined and that Greenland is widely believed to >>>> hold excellent potentials for a host of natural resources, including
zinc, lead, gold, iron ore, heavy and light rare earth elements,
copper as well as crude oil.
It might make one wonder whether drugs really is the problem.
It's all a conspiracy John, no one cares that 200 people were being killed every day byFentanyl, least of all, you. You-re only interested in talking about things you don't understand.
Presently and for the foreseeable future the US is producing more oil than it needs. My wife's father came from Texas and owned a small farm there that they drill for oil on. She and her two siblings are still being paid $200 each per month after 100 years for their small portion of the commission.
Since you seem to have missed it - The USA is at war on international terrorism. Venezuelan President now and for the foreseeable future is a member if a major drug cartel who used terrorism and election fraud to gain and retain office. As the Democrats have been doing here. How do you suppose that So many people Have been killed with so little reaction from Obama or Biden who were bring on judges that were releasing murders and high end drug pushers out on the street and not prosecuting them?
Tell us again how without any serious experimental test drilling how anyone could say that Iceland (which is part of the North American continental mass and politically under the protection of the USA) could have any extensive oil?
If you don't like President Trump just say so, don't invent crimes that aren't and never were committed. You are sounding like Liebernabb and Flunky.
Wells,see...
Election fraud.... Acording to your posts election fraud is quite
common in the U.S. Note the "your posts".
Re Greenland (not Iceland).....
Detailed mapping collaborations and explorations carried out over more
than a century have uncovered evidence of important mineral resources
in Greenland ? including rare earth elements and critical minerals
used for green energy technologies, as well as suspected fossil fuel
reserves.
The oil companies have nethods of determining the possibility of oil
and where the deposits are with out drilling.
Batteries which were by far the largest users of rare earths have evolved to sodium and aluminum. The use of rare earths is now miniscule 5o what it was. Why are you talking about it since the Chinese are the ones using rare earths now?
On Mon Jan 5 06:04:18 2026 zen cycle wrote:
On Sun, 04 Jan 2026 23:40:31 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
Ask Liebermann what the laws are about threatening people over the Internet.
You should know by know, they've been explained to you often enough
after your repeated threats of death and violenece
Lst me repeat - if I am ever around you, you will never forget it. Freedom of Speech only protects you from the government.
Batteries which were by far the largest users of rare earths have evolved to sodium and aluminum. The use of rare earths is now miniscule 5o what it was. Why are you talking about it since the Chinese are the ones using rare earths now?
On Mon, 05 Jan 2026 16:42:36 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
Batteries which were by far the largest users of rare earths have evolved to sodium and aluminum. The use of rare earths is now miniscule 5o what it was. Why are you talking about it since the Chinese are the ones using rare earths now?
Wrong (as usual). The only battery type that uses rare earth elements
are NiMH batteries: <https://www.sneci.com/en/are-rare-earths-an-issue-in-the-production-of-ev-batteries/>
"15 years ago, the first hybrid vehicles, notably the Toyota Prius and
the Honda, were equipped with NiMH (Nickel Metal Hydride) batteries
whose negative electrode (anode) was made of a lanthanum-pentanickel
alloy (LaNi5)...
Rare earths do not enter, or only in very small quantities (possibly
as an additive), in the composition of Lithium-ion (Li-ion),
sodium-sulfur (NaS) and lead-acid (PbA) batteries, which are the most
common. Only nickel-metal hydride (NiMH) batteries include a rare
earth alloy at the cathode."
The major use of rare earths is currently in the manufacture of
permanent magnets
"About 20 to 23% are used in the manufacture of permanent magnets for electric motors."
More uses:
Rare earths are mainly used in the following applications:
Permanent magnets (used to reduce the volume and weight of
electric motors and generators) ;
Catalysis (catalytic converters for cars, petroleum crackingrCa);
Glass polishing (especially for screens);
Some batteries;
Some metallurgical alloys;
Glass and ceramics industries (coloring, decoloringrCa);
Luminophores (lamps, screensrCa) ;
Power lasers;
But also in medical imaging, nuclear energy, defenserCa
On Mon, 05 Jan 2026 03:52:56 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Mon, 5 Jan 2026 06:00:53 -0500, zen cycle
<funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 04 Jan 2026 09:31:23 -0500, floriduh dumbass
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
Unlike Venezuela, the Republic of China is not engaged in illegal drug >>>>> trade.
What fucking idiot...that's kunich level stupidity.
https://www.dea.gov/press-releases/2024/10/24/china-based-chemical-manufacturing-companies-and-employees-indicted
And are you so deluded from TDS that you've forgotten all about your >>>orange leaders tariff threats unless China takes more decisive action >>>against fentanyl trade?
From what I'm reading the big time drug dealing is moving out of China
and into countries like Laos, Cambodia and northern Myanmar probably >>because of the lack of law enforcement there.
The People's Republic of China (PRC) is deep into drug dealing, the
Republic of China (ROC Taiwan) is not.
On Mon, 05 Jan 2026 07:24:24 -0500, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Mon, 05 Jan 2026 03:52:56 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Mon, 5 Jan 2026 06:00:53 -0500, zen cycle
<funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 04 Jan 2026 09:31:23 -0500, floriduh dumbass
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
Unlike Venezuela, the Republic of China is not engaged in illegal drug >>>>>> trade.
What fucking idiot...that's kunich level stupidity.
https://www.dea.gov/press-releases/2024/10/24/china-based-chemical-manufacturing-companies-and-employees-indicted
And are you so deluded from TDS that you've forgotten all about your >>>>orange leaders tariff threats unless China takes more decisive action >>>>against fentanyl trade?
From what I'm reading the big time drug dealing is moving out of China >>>and into countries like Laos, Cambodia and northern Myanmar probably >>>because of the lack of law enforcement there.
The People's Republic of China (PRC) is deep into drug dealing, the >>Republic of China (ROC Taiwan) is not.
Errr that doesn't seem quite right as I searched for "Taiwan drugs"
and got a lot of hits.
Trippy Times: Taiwan Teens Embrace Drug Culture
Record 13.8 tons of illegal drugs seized in 2025: CGA
The People's Republic of China (PRC) is deep into drug dealing,
On Mon, 05 Jan 2026 18:06:51 -0500, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
The People's Republic of China (PRC) is deep into drug dealing,
Have you any justification for that statement as I read just the
opposit
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/347925/
in part
Before Liberation in 1949, the Chinese Communist Party had kept opium
out of their areas. However, it took until 1953 to rid China
completely of opium.
--
cheers,
John B.
On 1/5/2026 5:36 PM, John B. wrote:
On Mon, 05 Jan 2026 18:06:51 -0500, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
The People's Republic of China (PRC) is deep into drug dealing,
Have you any justification for that statement as I read just the
opposit
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/347925/
in part
Before Liberation in 1949, the Chinese Communist Party had kept opium
out of their areas. However, it took until 1953 to rid China
completely of opium.
--
cheers,
John B.
Not domestic. Every country has a domestic drug problem to
some greater or lesser extent.
Export and foreign policy.
https://factually.co/fact-checks/crime/china-to-mexico-precursor-chemicals-pill-production-b0cbd7
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/chinese-chemical-bust-border-officials-underscores-multifront-effort-ccp-undermine-us
https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/pr/us-seizes-300000-kilos-meth-precursor-chemicals-sent-china-destined-mexicos-sinaloa-drug
https://www.npr.org/2024/03/21/1239854106/how-the-chinese-mafia-came-to-control-much-of-the-illicit-marijuana-trade-in-the
and more. This is not really news, or shouldn't be.
On 1/5/2026 10:55 AM, cyclintom wrote:
On Mon Jan 5 06:04:18 2026 zen cycle-a wrote:
On Sun, 04 Jan 2026 23:40:31 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
Ask Liebermann what the laws are about threatening people over the
Internet.
You should know by know, they've been explained to you often enough
after your repeated threats of death and violenece
Lst me repeat - if I am ever around you, you will never forget it.
Freedom of Speech only protects you from the government.
Mostly yes. But not from civil suits.
On Mon, 5 Jan 2026 17:52:05 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 1/5/2026 5:36 PM, John B. wrote:
On Mon, 05 Jan 2026 18:06:51 -0500, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
The People's Republic of China (PRC) is deep into drug dealing,
Have you any justification for that statement as I read just the
opposit
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/347925/
in part
Before Liberation in 1949, the Chinese Communist Party had kept opium
out of their areas. However, it took until 1953 to rid China
completely of opium.
--
cheers,
John B.
Not domestic. Every country has a domestic drug problem to
some greater or lesser extent.
Export and foreign policy.
https://factually.co/fact-checks/crime/china-to-mexico-precursor-chemicals-pill-production-b0cbd7
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/chinese-chemical-bust-border-officials-underscores-multifront-effort-ccp-undermine-us
https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/pr/us-seizes-300000-kilos-meth-precursor-chemicals-sent-china-destined-mexicos-sinaloa-drug
https://www.npr.org/2024/03/21/1239854106/how-the-chinese-mafia-came-to-control-much-of-the-illicit-marijuana-trade-in-the
and more. This is not really news, or shouldn't be.
I think I pointed out that
Chinese drug gangs were moving into Laos, Cambodia, and northern (what
used to be) Burma,
But rather then whine about the drug suppliers why doesn't the U.S. do something about the users. I read that "Among Americans aged 12 years
and older, 47.7 million were current illegal drug users (used within
the last 30 days) as of 2023. 16.8% of Americans 12 and over used
drugs in the last month, a 1.9% increase year-over-year"
I did point out, you'll remember, that other countries are able to
control drug use, why can't the U.S.
--
cheers,
John B.
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