On 12/21/2025 10:08 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2025 19:45:15 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Sat Dec 20 17:51:13 2025 John B. wrote:
On Sat, 20 Dec 2025 18:33:07 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
Now the rain isn't expected until this evenimg. I'll be working on the bikes all day. I will start trying to take the bumps out of the Colnago wheels. I've already tried scrapeing the tubless sealant off the sealing faces of the rims. If anything, that made the problem worse.
Well. it does take pure dishwashing soap and the tire isn't perfectly round,but it doesn't have those humps in it.. I used a nylon painter's brush and went from a dilute solution to the pure soap. and then I had to take it outside and hose it down really good to get the soap off of the tire and rim.
Then I installed the wheels, brakes and deraillers on the Marin.like other quick release bikes there is a little extra play in the dropouts and you have to be careful to perfectly align The wheeols. I will change to 28mm tires in the future to have a little more clearance.
Now I am waiting for a steeper stem since this is a 58 cm bike and I don't want a deep drop between the saddle and bars. I now think that I will strip the Fondriest and sell it as a bare frame snd let someone else deal with its problems. I have enough steel bikes. And the Marin is beautiful.
I sold the 10-speed GRX group yesterday and that paid for the LTWoo R9 11 speed group.
The slight shifting problem I was having on the Basso was corrected by aligning the reat wheel more carefully.
Tell us Tom, with all this buying bikes, fixing bikes, selling bikes,
it seems as you are really conducting a business there in your garage. >>> Do you pay tax on all this?
Tell us John, why is it that you are unaware that I am not a declared business and private individuals do not pay taxes on used goods and yet are making such false claims without the slightest knowledge of Califonia laws?
No business license? No taxes on private transactions? That's really amazing.
City of San Leandro Business License: <https://www.sanleandro.org/340/Business-License>
"Anyone conducting any type of business activity in the incorporated portion of the City of San Leandro is required to obtain a City
business license prior to commencing any such activity."
"California Use Tax Guide" <https://www.avalara.com/taxrates/en/state-rates/california/california-use-tax-guide.html>
"When tangible personal property is purchased in California, sales tax
is generally collected by the retailer at the point of sale. Should it
not be collected or if goods are purchased out of state and no tax is collected, a use tax is likely due and it is up to the buyer to file
it. Use tax is one of the most overlooked and misunderstood taxes."
Starting a business in San Leandro: <https://www.sanleandrochamber.com/assets/pdf/Starting+a+Business+in+SL+Packet/>
"Do I need a license if I work out of my home?
Yes. Businesses operated out of the home require a business license
and must comply with the City?s Zoning Ordinance."
I wouldn't worry (much) about having tax collectors (and bounty
hunters) banging on your garage door demanding payment for overdue
taxes. At the likely small size of your business, it probably costs
more for the various agencies and departments to collect and process
your tax payments than they could likely collect. Howevef, if you
begin to make large transactions, hire employees, or move into a
proper office, you might as well get legal before you get caught.
Incidentally, if the tax agencies and departments discover that you
have millions of dollars in "investments", they might be tempted to
ask where the millions came from, especially since you haven't worked
since 1984 (Thoratec), according to your resume. You probably didn't
make your millions buying and selling used bicycle parts.
Don't you remember Jeff? Tommy has a brilliant "tax-free bond"Only Flunky believes that billion dollar tax funds specialing in tax free government bonds are illegal. Flunky, do you feel a need to impress us with your ignorance every day?
investment strategy.
On Tue, 23 Dec 2025 04:57:50 -0500, zen cycle
<funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 12/21/2025 10:08 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:(...)
Incidentally, if the tax agencies and departments discover that youDon't you remember Jeff? Tommy has a brilliant "tax-free bond"
have millions of dollars in "investments", they might be tempted to
ask where the millions came from, especially since you haven't worked
since 1984 (Thoratec), according to your resume. You probably didn't
make your millions buying and selling used bicycle parts.
investment strategy.
Thanks. I remembered, but failed to find the specific article where
Tom claimed his investments were not taxable. I try to avoid making accusations without having substantiating evidence. However, I just
searched again and found a suitable quote (there were several):
08/15/2023 <https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/qMylsLSMx_A/m/B_hJoZNfAQAJ> "I am making $40,000 a MONTH in interest. on my investments which are
now in protected tax free bond funds."
My comments on Tom's alleged $40,000/month interest income:Lieberman, tell us all why this fund does not exist. https://advisors.vanguard.com/investments/products/vwlux/vanguard-long-term-tax-exempt-fund-admiral-shares?cmpgn=3dFAS:PS:XX:LF:20250101:BG:DM:LB~FAS_VN~BG_KC~NB_PR~LF_UN~AFIProduct_MT~Phrase_AT~None_EX~None:None:NONE:NONE:KW:LongTermTaxExemptFund&=3dnull&msclkid=3d7ad9c9785e931613e1a0a036e1deed93&gclid=3d7ad9c9785e931613e1a0a036e1deed93&gclsrc=3d3p.ds&gad_source=3d7&gad_campaignid=3d21742095753
08/15/2023 <https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/qMylsLSMx_A/m/_fWCL5xkAQAJ> >...I am making $40,000 a MONTH in interest. on my
investments which are now in protected tax free bond funds.
Congratulations. Let's see if the numbers work. AAA rated, 10 year,
tax free municipal bonds are currently paying 2.70% interest: <https://www.fmsbonds.com/market-yields/>
$40,000/month, at 2.7% compounded monthly, for 10 years, will require
a principal of $4,500,000. <https://www.calculator.net/interest-calculator.html?cstartingprinciple=3d0&cannualaddition=3d0&cmonthlyaddition=3d40%2C000&cadditionat1=3dbeginning&cinterestrate=3d2.7&ccompound=3dmonthly&cyears=3d10&cmonths=3d0&ctaxtrate=3d0&cinflationrate=3d0&printit=3d0&x=3dCalculate#interestresults>
Last time you boasted how much you were worth, it was about $1.75
million.
03/05/2023 <https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/JG80Gv6eFz4/m/I5iXXkCRAgAJ> "... I am worth a million and 3/4 dollars. Exactly what are you
worth?"
So, either you robbed a bank for the extra $2.75 million or you're
lying as usual. Occam's Razor should make the choice easy.
On Tue, 23 Dec 2025 11:29:12 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:Liebermann, now it is OK for you to make mistakes but not me? Why is it that you know nothing about investing but talk about as an expert? I'm not an expert on jnvesting but with bare essentials I am comfortably retired. Why did you throw away so much money fur no return?
On 12/23/2025 11:18 AM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Tue, 23 Dec 2025 08:52:04 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 23 Dec 2025 04:57:50 -0500, zen cycle
<funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 12/21/2025 10:08 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:(...)
Incidentally, if the tax agencies and departments discover that you >>>>> have millions of dollars in "investments", they might be tempted to >>>>> ask where the millions came from, especially since you haven't worked >>>>> since 1984 (Thoratec), according to your resume. You probably didn't >>>>> make your millions buying and selling used bicycle parts.Don't you remember Jeff? Tommy has a brilliant "tax-free bond"
investment strategy.
Thanks. I remembered, but failed to find the specific article where
Tom claimed his investments were not taxable. I try to avoid making
accusations without having substantiating evidence. However, I just
searched again and found a suitable quote (there were several):
08/15/2023
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/qMylsLSMx_A/m/B_hJoZNfAQAJ>
"I am making $40,000 a MONTH in interest. on my investments which are
now in protected tax free bond funds."
(Chomp)
Tom's "tax-free bond" is not the only income that Tom has been
avoiding:
<https://www.schwab.com/taxes/investment-related-taxes>
There are different taxes on capital gains, dividends, and interest
income. Capital gains is interesting because Tom would be required to
pay taxes on the increased value of his investments, even if he hasn't
sold those investments and converted his gains to cash. Or more
simply, he pays the tax before he receives the profits on which the
tax is based.
"Investment income taxes"
<https://www.schwab.com/taxes/investment-related-taxes>
If that's not enough, Tom's $40,000/month income ($480,000/year) is
more than double the threshold where he is required to pay NIIT (Net
Investment Income Tax):
<https://www.irs.gov/taxtopics/tc559>
<<https://www.schwab.com/taxes/investment-related-taxes#panel--text-38646>>
Hmmm... if I do this correctly, I might collect a 15% to 30% of
collections reward for discovering a tax evader:
"Whistleblower Office"
<https://www.irs.gov/compliance/whistleblower-office>
Uh, that's not right. Unrealized (theoretical, a.k.a.
'paper') gains are not taxable.
https://taxsharkinc.com/are-unrealized-capital-gains-taxable/
Attempts to assess unrealized gains are ongoing, also
described as a 'wealth' tax as opposed to an 'income' tax.
So far to little effect.
Oops. I was totally wrong about taxing unrealized gain. I think I
know where that came from, but that's no excuse for me speed reading
and then misinterpreting the Schwab article on investment taxes. My apologies and thanks for the correction.
Using Microsoft Pilot AI, I found some situations where unrealized
paper profits are taxable. Mutual funds and phantom income from
private funds and partnerships. Besides not trusting AI advice, I'm
not sure I understand these taxes function.
Grumble...
In concept, Mr Kunich is no different from many enthusiastsOne of the major problems is that the entire part of my memory concerning materials was lost in my concussive brain injury, andI have had to relearn it. The same learning curve you went through so many years ago, I've had to repeat. I now know why my faorite bike was a Basso Gap. Plus technology has moved on and I've had to learned that. When I recieved my concussion, there was no such thing as a BB30.
who take enjoyment from building bicycles, swapping parts
around, buying and selling. Other riders ride the same
machine with minimal equipment changes for decades and
neither man is wrong about his tastes.
In practice, reading the manufacturer's instructions before
diving in would save frustration and time, but then again
people like what they like.
Liebermann, now it is OK for you to make mistakes but not me?
On Tue Dec 23 08:52:04 2025 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Tue, 23 Dec 2025 04:57:50 -0500, zen cycle
<funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 12/21/2025 10:08 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:(...)
Incidentally, if the tax agencies and departments discover that youDon't you remember Jeff? Tommy has a brilliant "tax-free bond"
have millions of dollars in "investments", they might be tempted to
ask where the millions came from, especially since you haven't worked
since 1984 (Thoratec), according to your resume. You probably didn't
make your millions buying and selling used bicycle parts.
investment strategy.
Thanks. I remembered, but failed to find the specific article where
Tom claimed his investments were not taxable. I try to avoid making
accusations without having substantiating evidence. However, I just
searched again and found a suitable quote (there were several):
08/15/2023
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/qMylsLSMx_A/m/B_hJoZNfAQAJ> >> "I am making $40,000 a MONTH in interest. on my investments which are
now in protected tax free bond funds."
My comments on Tom's alleged $40,000/month interest income:
08/15/2023
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/qMylsLSMx_A/m/_fWCL5xkAQAJ> >> >...I am making $40,000 a MONTH in interest. on my
investments which are now in protected tax free bond funds.
Congratulations. Let's see if the numbers work. AAA rated, 10 year,
tax free municipal bonds are currently paying 2.70% interest:
<https://www.fmsbonds.com/market-yields/>
$40,000/month, at 2.7% compounded monthly, for 10 years, will require
a principal of $4,500,000.
<https://www.calculator.net/interest-calculator.html?cstartingprinciple=0&cannualaddition=0&cmonthlyaddition=40%2C000&cadditionat1=beginning&cinterestrate=2.7&ccompound=monthly&cyears=10&cmonths=0&ctaxtrate=0&cinflationrate=0&printit=0&x=Calculate#interestresults>
Last time you boasted how much you were worth, it was about $1.75
million.
03/05/2023
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/JG80Gv6eFz4/m/I5iXXkCRAgAJ> >> "... I am worth a million and 3/4 dollars. Exactly what are you
worth?"
So, either you robbed a bank for the extra $2.75 million or you're
lying as usual. Occam's Razor should make the choice easy.
Lieberman, tell us all why this fund does not exist. https://advisors.vanguard.com/investments/products/vwlux/vanguard-long-term-tax-exempt-fund-admiral-shares?cmpgn=FAS:PS:XX:LF:20250101:BG:DM:LB~FAS_VN~BG_KC~NB_PR~LF_UN~AFIProduct_MT~Phrase_AT~None_EX~None:None:NONE:NONE:KW:LongTermTaxExemptFund&=null&msclkid=7ad9c9785e931613e1a0a036e1deed93&gclid=7ad9c9785e931613e1a0a036e1deed93&gclsrc=3p.ds&gad_source=7&gad_campaignid=21742095753
You and Flunky have willed yourselves into poverty.
On Sun Dec 21 09:01:11 2025 AMuzi wrote:
In concept, Mr Kunich is no different from many enthusiasts
who take enjoyment from building bicycles, swapping parts
around, buying and selling. Other riders ride the same
machine with minimal equipment changes for decades and
neither man is wrong about his tastes.
In practice, reading the manufacturer's instructions before
diving in would save frustration and time, but then again
people like what they like.
One of the major problems is that the entire part of my memory concerning materials was lost in my concussive brain injury, andI have had to relearn it. The same learning curve you went through so many years ago, I've had to repeat. I now know why my faorite bike was a Basso Gap. Plus technology has moved on and I've had to learned that. When I recieved my concussion, there was no such thing as a BB30.How far did you go?
On 12/20/2025 8:51 PM, John B. wrote:
On Sat, 20 Dec 2025 18:33:07 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
Now the rain isn't expected until this evenimg. I'll be working on the bikes all day. I will start trying to take the bumps out of the Colnago wheels. I've already tried scrapeing the tubless sealant off the sealing faces of the rims. If anything, that made the problem worse.
Well. it does take pure dishwashing soap and the tire isn't perfectly round,but it doesn't have those humps in it.. I used a nylon painter's brush and went from a dilute solution to the pure soap. and then I had to take it outside and hose it down really good to get the soap off of the tire and rim.
Then I installed the wheels, brakes and deraillers on the Marin.like other quick release bikes there is a little extra play in the dropouts and you have to be careful to perfectly align The wheeols. I will change to 28mm tires in the future to have a little more clearance.
Now I am waiting for a steeper stem since this is a 58 cm bike and I don't want a deep drop between the saddle and bars. I now think that I will strip the Fondriest and sell it as a bare frame snd let someone else deal with its problems. I have enough steel bikes. And the Marin is beautiful.
I sold the 10-speed GRX group yesterday and that paid for the LTWoo R9 11 speed group.
The slight shifting problem I was having on the Basso was corrected by aligning the reat wheel more carefully.
Tell us Tom, with all this buying bikes, fixing bikes, selling bikes,
it seems as you are really conducting a business there in your garage.
Do you pay tax on all this?
Even in California, he'd have to be conducting a lot moreWell yes, but you'd also have to have a business license. What's the matter with you? Are you beginning to grow some ethics? That is a good thing and the world would notice. It would be a very good idea if strings about bicycles were about bicycles.
business/revenue before it would qualify as a business.
On Fri, 26 Dec 2025 17:06:18 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Tue Dec 23 08:52:04 2025 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Tue, 23 Dec 2025 04:57:50 -0500, zen cycle
<funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 12/21/2025 10:08 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:(...)
Incidentally, if the tax agencies and departments discover that youDon't you remember Jeff? Tommy has a brilliant "tax-free bond"
have millions of dollars in "investments", they might be tempted to
ask where the millions came from, especially since you haven't worked >> >> since 1984 (Thoratec), according to your resume. You probably didn't >> >> make your millions buying and selling used bicycle parts.
investment strategy.
Thanks. I remembered, but failed to find the specific article where
Tom claimed his investments were not taxable. I try to avoid making
accusations without having substantiating evidence. However, I just
searched again and found a suitable quote (there were several):
08/15/2023
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/qMylsLSMx_A/m/B_hJoZNfAQAJ>
"I am making $40,000 a MONTH in interest. on my investments which are
now in protected tax free bond funds."
My comments on Tom's alleged $40,000/month interest income:
08/15/2023
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/qMylsLSMx_A/m/_fWCL5xkAQAJ>
...I am making $40,000 a MONTH in interest. on my
investments which are now in protected tax free bond funds.
Congratulations. Let's see if the numbers work. AAA rated, 10 year,
tax free municipal bonds are currently paying 2.70% interest:
<https://www.fmsbonds.com/market-yields/>
$40,000/month, at 2.7% compounded monthly, for 10 years, will require
a principal of $4,500,000.
<https://www.calculator.net/interest-calculator.html?cstartingprinciple=3d0&cannualaddition=3d0&cmonthlyaddition=3d40%2C000&cadditionat1=3dbeginning&cinterestrate=3d2.7&ccompound=3dmonthly&cyears=3d10&cmonths=3d0&ctaxtrate=3d0&cinflationrate=3d0&printit=3d0&x=3dCalculate#interestresults>
Last time you boasted how much you were worth, it was about $1.75
million.
03/05/2023
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/JG80Gv6eFz4/m/I5iXXkCRAgAJ>
"... I am worth a million and 3/4 dollars. Exactly what are you
worth?"
So, either you robbed a bank for the extra $2.75 million or you're
lying as usual. Occam's Razor should make the choice easy.
Liebermann, exactly what do you know about tax exemption? You have never made enough to pay taxes except when you were employed as a quality control signature.Lieberman, tell us all why this fund does not exist. https://advisors.vanguard.com/investments/products/vwlux/vanguard-long-term-tax-exempt-fund-admiral-shares?cmpgn=3dFAS:PS:XX:LF:20250101:BG:DM:LB~FAS_VN~BG_KC~NB_PR~LF_UN~AFIProduct_MT~Phrase_AT~None_EX~None:None:NONE:NONE:KW:LongTermTaxExemptFund&=3dnull&msclkid=3d7ad9c9785e931613e1a0a036e1deed93&gclid=3d7ad9c9785e931613e1a0a036e1deed93&gclsrc=3d3p.ds&gad_source=3d7&gad_campaignid=3d21742095753
Because the VWLUX fund invests in municipal bonds, which are typically
tax exempt:
"Municipal Bond Basics" <https://www.msrb.org/Education/Municipal-Bond-Basics-0>
"Municipal bonds are generally referred to as tax-exempt bonds because
the interest earned on the bonds often is excluded from gross income
for federal income tax purposes and, in some cases, is also exempt
from state and local income taxes."
Also, there's no way your alleged investments can earn $40,000/month
(or $480,000/year) on municipal bonds: <https://advisors.vanguard.com/investments/products/vwlux/vanguard-long-term-tax-exempt-fund-admiral-shares?cmpgn=3dFAS%3APS%3AXX%3ALF%3A20250101%3ABG%3ADM%3ALB~FAS_VN~BG_KC~NB_PR~LF_UN~AFIProduct_MT~Phrase_AT~None_EX~None%3ANone%3ANONE%3ANONE%3AKW%3ALongTermTaxExemptFund&=3dnull&gclsrc=3d3p.ds&gad_source=3d7&gad_campaignid=3d21742095753#performance>
With a yield of 2.3% /year and ignoring compounding because I'm too
lazy to do the math, your alleged $1.75 million investment would yield
about $40,250 per year, not per month.
You and Flunky have willed yourselves into poverty.
Where there's a will, there's usually a way.
On Fri, 26 Dec 2025 17:19:21 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>Liebermann, your entire life is a mistake and you do not appologize for that but continue on doing the same things over and over. Haven't you scerwed yourself up enough? Why don't you telol everyone how smart you are because you can quote "fact checkers" who themselve make you look almost of normal intelligence?
wrote:
Liebermann, now it is OK for you to make mistakes but not me?
Because I admit making mistakes, apologize, offer corrections and
thank the person who pointed out my mistakes. You don't.
On 12/26/2025 11:34 AM, cyclintom wrote:
On Sun Dec 21 09:01:11 2025 AMuzi wrote:
In concept, Mr Kunich is no different from many enthusiasts
who take enjoyment from building bicycles, swapping parts
around, buying and selling. Other riders ride the same
machine with minimal equipment changes for decades and
neither man is wrong about his tastes.
In practice, reading the manufacturer's instructions before
diving in would save frustration and time, but then again
people like what they like.
I was completely blanked out from 2010 to most of 2012. It took me the better part of 10 years to recover many memories and many were never recovered - I can't remember my mother or father dying in the 2000's though I was working all that time. I paid for my mother's staying in an assisted care center, and visited her as often as possible. My father was on Railroad retirement and so was able and conscious enough to take care of himself even though near the end he was on full time O2 because of emphasyma.One of the major problems is that the entire part of my memory concerning materials was lost in my concussive brain injury, andI have had to relearn it. The same learning curve you went through so many years ago, I've had to repeat. I now know why my faorite bike was a Basso Gap. Plus technology has moved on and I've had to learned that. When I recieved my concussion, there was no such thing as a BB30.How far did you go?
I was completely blanked out from 2010 to most of 2012. It took me the better part of 10 years to recover many memories and many were never recovered - I can't remember my mother or father dying in the 2000's though I was working all that time. I paid for my mother's staying in an assisted care center, and visited her as often as possible. My father was on Railroad retirement and so was able and conscious enough to take care of himself even though near the end he was on full time O2 because of emphasyma.
On Mon, 22 Dec 2025 12:15:57 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:I'll take your word fopr it but tell me how you rifled a barre. Cheaper modern guns often have the rifling stamped in and you certainly aren't going to do that. So I will assume that you bought the mechanism and are really saying that you built the stock. I have the woodworking skills and the knowledge and I also know what is necessary to build a match grade rifle. For that grade of rifle the barrel has to be virtually free floating forward of the loading mechanism. It is very difficult to make a repeatring rifle match grade. I have shot out to 600 yards using match grade but my eyesight though quite good was never good enough to use open sights beyond 600 yards. I did see a Marine sniper practicing at 1250 yards and he could put everything on the one meter target. Shooting as a real sniper with time to burn, I imagine he could have put everything in the center ring.
On 12/22/2025 12:12 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Mon Dec 22 05:45:22 2025 Catrike Ryder wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2025 23:44:17 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2025 19:16:12 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> >>>> wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2025 19:08:16 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> >>>>> wrote:
Starting a business in San Leandro:
<https://www.sanleandrochamber.com/assets/pdf/Starting+a+Business+in+SL+Packet/>
"Do I need a license if I work out of my home?
Yes. Businesses operated out of the home require a business license >>>>>> and must comply with the City?s Zoning Ordinance."
More:
"Prior to starting a home-based business, owners must read and sign a >>>>> Home Occupation Permit Agreement, which includes specific conditions >>>>> of agreement."
Over the years I've come across people who aren't formally employed
that simply do jobs for others and receive money for doing it. When I >>>> was in high school a classmate mowed lawns. He had his own lawn mower >>>> and worked 6 days a week mowing lawns, we were all Jealous as he saved >>>> enough that he bought his own auto the day he turned 16 and could have >>>> a driver's license.
I've done similar things when I was working, gone out and surveyed a >>>> potential project and advised people how to do the work and even
suggested people to do the project for them and received a very nice >>>> 'gift' for doing so.
Does the U.S. let you get away with doing that tax free as a way of
life...... I suspect, from your posts that you may be familiar with
this sort of problem (;-)
You might not get away with it if the entity that's paying you is
claiming and deducting the payment as an expence. Otherwise getting
paid "under the table" is pretty common for "odd jobs."
Is it your belief that my selling my personal car or bicycle constitutes a business? I find it humourous that failure of a human being will lie about anything.
From reports here, you do not meet the standard for a
business. There are rules and tests (of long standing):
https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/heres-how-to-tell-the-difference-between-a-hobby-and-a-business-for-tax-purposes
Lets see... at one time I was in the Air Force, worked
weekends for a local company and built custom rifles in my spare time....... (:-)
On Mon Dec 22 16:52:09 2025 John B. wrote:
On Mon, 22 Dec 2025 12:15:57 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 12/22/2025 12:12 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Mon Dec 22 05:45:22 2025 Catrike Ryder wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2025 23:44:17 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2025 19:16:12 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> >> >>>> wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2025 19:08:16 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> >> >>>>> wrote:
Starting a business in San Leandro:
<https://www.sanleandrochamber.com/assets/pdf/Starting+a+Business+in+SL+Packet/>
"Do I need a license if I work out of my home?
Yes. Businesses operated out of the home require a business license >> >>>>>> and must comply with the City?s Zoning Ordinance."
More:
"Prior to starting a home-based business, owners must read and sign a >> >>>>> Home Occupation Permit Agreement, which includes specific conditions >> >>>>> of agreement."
Over the years I've come across people who aren't formally employed
that simply do jobs for others and receive money for doing it. When I >> >>>> was in high school a classmate mowed lawns. He had his own lawn mower >> >>>> and worked 6 days a week mowing lawns, we were all Jealous as he saved >> >>>> enough that he bought his own auto the day he turned 16 and could have >> >>>> a driver's license.
I've done similar things when I was working, gone out and surveyed a
potential project and advised people how to do the work and even
suggested people to do the project for them and received a very nice
'gift' for doing so.
Does the U.S. let you get away with doing that tax free as a way of
life...... I suspect, from your posts that you may be familiar with
this sort of problem (;-)
You might not get away with it if the entity that's paying you is
claiming and deducting the payment as an expence. Otherwise getting
paid "under the table" is pretty common for "odd jobs."
Is it your belief that my selling my personal car or bicycle constitutes a business? I find it humourous that failure of a human being will lie about anything.
From reports here, you do not meet the standard for a
business. There are rules and tests (of long standing):
https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/heres-how-to-tell-the-difference-between-a-hobby-and-a-business-for-tax-purposes
Lets see... at one time I was in the Air Force, worked
weekends for a local company and built custom rifles in my spare
time....... (:-)
I'll take your word fopr it but tell me how you rifled a barre. Cheaper modern guns often have the rifling stamped in and you certainly aren't going to do that. So I will assume that you bought the mechanism and are really saying that you built the stock. I have the woodworking skills and the knowledge and I also know what is necessary to build a match grade rifle. For that grade of rifle the barrel has to be virtually free floating forward of the loading mechanism. It is very difficult to make a repeatring rifle match grade. I have shot out to 600 yards using match grade but my eyesight though quite good was never good enough to use open sights beyond 600 yards. I did see a Marine sniper practicing at 1250 yards and he could put everything on the one meter target. Shooting as a real sniper with time to burn, I imagine he could have put everything in the center ring.
On Mon Dec 22 16:52:09 2025 John B. wrote:
On Mon, 22 Dec 2025 12:15:57 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 12/22/2025 12:12 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Mon Dec 22 05:45:22 2025 Catrike Ryder wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2025 23:44:17 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2025 19:16:12 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> >>>>>> wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2025 19:08:16 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> >>>>>>> wrote:
Starting a business in San Leandro:
<https://www.sanleandrochamber.com/assets/pdf/Starting+a+Business+in+SL+Packet/>
"Do I need a license if I work out of my home?
Yes. Businesses operated out of the home require a business license >>>>>>>> and must comply with the City?s Zoning Ordinance."
More:
"Prior to starting a home-based business, owners must read and sign a >>>>>>> Home Occupation Permit Agreement, which includes specific conditions >>>>>>> of agreement."
Over the years I've come across people who aren't formally employed >>>>>> that simply do jobs for others and receive money for doing it. When I >>>>>> was in high school a classmate mowed lawns. He had his own lawn mower >>>>>> and worked 6 days a week mowing lawns, we were all Jealous as he saved >>>>>> enough that he bought his own auto the day he turned 16 and could have >>>>>> a driver's license.
I've done similar things when I was working, gone out and surveyed a >>>>>> potential project and advised people how to do the work and even
suggested people to do the project for them and received a very nice >>>>>> 'gift' for doing so.
Does the U.S. let you get away with doing that tax free as a way of >>>>>> life...... I suspect, from your posts that you may be familiar with >>>>>> this sort of problem (;-)
You might not get away with it if the entity that's paying you is
claiming and deducting the payment as an expence. Otherwise getting
paid "under the table" is pretty common for "odd jobs."
Is it your belief that my selling my personal car or bicycle constitutes a business? I find it humourous that failure of a human being will lie about anything.
From reports here, you do not meet the standard for a
business. There are rules and tests (of long standing):
https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/heres-how-to-tell-the-difference-between-a-hobby-and-a-business-for-tax-purposes
Lets see... at one time I was in the Air Force, worked
weekends for a local company and built custom rifles in my spare
time....... (:-)
I'll take your word fopr it but tell me how you rifled a barre. Cheaper modern guns often have the rifling stamped in and you certainly aren't going to do that. So I will assume that you bought the mechanism and are really saying that you built the stock. I have the woodworking skills and the knowledge and I also know what is necessary to build a match grade rifle. For that grade of rifle the barrel has to be virtually free floating forward of the loading mechanism. It is very difficult to make a repeatring rifle match grade. I have shot out to 600 yards using match grade but my eyesight though quite good was never good enough to use open sights beyond 600 yards. I did see a Marine sniper practicing at 1250 yards and he could put everything on the one meter target. Shooting as a real sniper with time to burn, I imagine he could have put everything in the center ring.
On Sat, 27 Dec 2025 21:15:46 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>Why are you telling me when my father died? Wouldn't it be more to the point telling me when your father died? Or maybe not since by then he had disowned you.
wrote:
I was completely blanked out from 2010 to most of 2012. It took me the better part of 10 years to recover many memories and many were never recovered - I can't remember my mother or father dying in the 2000's though I was working all that time. I paid for my mother's staying in an assisted care center, and visited her as often as possible. My father was on Railroad retirement and so was able and conscious enough to take care of himself even though near the end he was on full time O2 because of emphasyma.
Your father died in 1987. <https://www.myheritage.com/research/record-10002-88144066/john-a-kunich-in-us-social-security-death-index-ssdi>
You were sufficiently functional in 2010 to be awarded with a DUI: <https://www.localcrimenews.com/welcome/detail/44604354/thomas-h-kunich-arrest.htm>
followed by a no-show: <https://www.localcrimenews.com/welcome/detail/49646718/thomas-h-kunich-arrest.html>
After paying for your mothers assisted care, the family left your name
off her obituaries: <https://www.grissomsmortuary.com/obituaries/detail/violet-kunich> <https://www.echovita.com/us/obituaries/ca/san-leandro/violet-kunich-8572417>
On 12/27/2025 6:56 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Mon Dec 22 16:52:09 2025 John B. wrote:
On Mon, 22 Dec 2025 12:15:57 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 12/22/2025 12:12 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Mon Dec 22 05:45:22 2025 Catrike Ryder wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2025 23:44:17 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2025 19:16:12 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> >>>>>> wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2025 19:08:16 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:
Starting a business in San Leandro:
<https://www.sanleandrochamber.com/assets/pdf/Starting+a+Business+in+SL+Packet/>
"Do I need a license if I work out of my home?
Yes. Businesses operated out of the home require a business license >>>>>>>> and must comply with the City?s Zoning Ordinance."
More:
"Prior to starting a home-based business, owners must read and sign a >>>>>>> Home Occupation Permit Agreement, which includes specific conditions >>>>>>> of agreement."
Over the years I've come across people who aren't formally employed >>>>>> that simply do jobs for others and receive money for doing it. When I >>>>>> was in high school a classmate mowed lawns. He had his own lawn mower >>>>>> and worked 6 days a week mowing lawns, we were all Jealous as he saved >>>>>> enough that he bought his own auto the day he turned 16 and could have >>>>>> a driver's license.
I've done similar things when I was working, gone out and surveyed a >>>>>> potential project and advised people how to do the work and even >>>>>> suggested people to do the project for them and received a very nice >>>>>> 'gift' for doing so.
Does the U.S. let you get away with doing that tax free as a way of >>>>>> life...... I suspect, from your posts that you may be familiar with >>>>>> this sort of problem (;-)
You might not get away with it if the entity that's paying you is
claiming and deducting the payment as an expence. Otherwise getting >>>>> paid "under the table" is pretty common for "odd jobs."
Is it your belief that my selling my personal car or bicycle constitutes a business? I find it humourous that failure of a human being will lie about anything.
From reports here, you do not meet the standard for a
business. There are rules and tests (of long standing):
https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/heres-how-to-tell-the-difference-between-a-hobby-and-a-business-for-tax-purposes
Lets see... at one time I was in the Air Force, worked
weekends for a local company and built custom rifles in my spare
time....... (:-)
I'll take your word fopr it but tell me how you rifled a barre. Cheaper modern guns often have the rifling stamped in and you certainly aren't going to do that. So I will assume that you bought the mechanism and are really saying that you built the stock. I have the woodworking skills and the knowledge and I also know what is necessary to build a match grade rifle. For that grade of rifle the barrel has to be virtually free floating forward of the loading mechanism. It is very difficult to make a repeatring rifle match grade. I have shot out to 600 yards using match grade but my eyesight though quite good was never good enough to use open sights beyond 600 yards. I did see a Marine sniper practicing at 1250 yards and he could put everything on the one meter target. Shooting as a real sniper with time to burn, I imagine he could have put everything in the center ring.
Since you are unfamiliar with rifles, a rifle barrel is a
standard industrial item and they are broached not
'stamped'. For any given platform there are many and
various barrels:
https://criterionbarrels.com/products/vintage-service/m1-garand/m1-garand-gi-contour-barrel-2/?v=3d0b3b97fa6688
https://ammogarand.com/m1gabaus.html
https://royaltigerimports.com/shop/m1-garand-barrels/
And on and on for each platform with myriad twist rates,
features and either quality or price to some greater or
lesser degree. No different from selecting bicycle components.
And the same is true for trigger groups, sights, magazines
and all the other parts down to wood vs composite stocks of
a zillion varieties.
Gunsmithing is at least as skilled and complex as bicycleI used the term "stamping" because cheap guns are indeed stanped with the rifling in them. The results are that the rifling is very crude and the accuracy of the weapon is very poor. Your references are to 30-06 barrels. 5 1/2 million of these were made for WW II and Korea. Those match grade marrels were made after that and chambered for .308 ammunition which is a shorter round. The Garand was a military weapon and MUCH better than cheap crap available today for many (especially) pistols.
wrenching.
I used the term "stamping" because cheap guns are indeed stanped with the rifling in them.
On Sun Dec 28 09:10:36 2025 AMuzi wrote:
On 12/27/2025 6:56 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Mon Dec 22 16:52:09 2025 John B. wrote:
On Mon, 22 Dec 2025 12:15:57 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote: >>>>
On 12/22/2025 12:12 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Mon Dec 22 05:45:22 2025 Catrike Ryder wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2025 23:44:17 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2025 19:16:12 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> >>>>>>>> wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2025 19:08:16 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:
Starting a business in San Leandro:
<https://www.sanleandrochamber.com/assets/pdf/Starting+a+Business+in+SL+Packet/>
"Do I need a license if I work out of my home?
Yes. Businesses operated out of the home require a business license >>>>>>>>>> and must comply with the City?s Zoning Ordinance."
More:
"Prior to starting a home-based business, owners must read and sign a >>>>>>>>> Home Occupation Permit Agreement, which includes specific conditions >>>>>>>>> of agreement."
Over the years I've come across people who aren't formally employed >>>>>>>> that simply do jobs for others and receive money for doing it. When I >>>>>>>> was in high school a classmate mowed lawns. He had his own lawn mower >>>>>>>> and worked 6 days a week mowing lawns, we were all Jealous as he saved >>>>>>>> enough that he bought his own auto the day he turned 16 and could have >>>>>>>> a driver's license.
I've done similar things when I was working, gone out and surveyed a >>>>>>>> potential project and advised people how to do the work and even >>>>>>>> suggested people to do the project for them and received a very nice >>>>>>>> 'gift' for doing so.
Does the U.S. let you get away with doing that tax free as a way of >>>>>>>> life...... I suspect, from your posts that you may be familiar with >>>>>>>> this sort of problem (;-)
You might not get away with it if the entity that's paying you is >>>>>>> claiming and deducting the payment as an expence. Otherwise getting >>>>>>> paid "under the table" is pretty common for "odd jobs."
Is it your belief that my selling my personal car or bicycle constitutes a business? I find it humourous that failure of a human being will lie about anything.
From reports here, you do not meet the standard for a
business. There are rules and tests (of long standing):
https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/heres-how-to-tell-the-difference-between-a-hobby-and-a-business-for-tax-purposes
Lets see... at one time I was in the Air Force, worked
weekends for a local company and built custom rifles in my spare
time....... (:-)
I'll take your word fopr it but tell me how you rifled a barre. Cheaper modern guns often have the rifling stamped in and you certainly aren't going to do that. So I will assume that you bought the mechanism and are really saying that you built the stock. I have the woodworking skills and the knowledge and I also know what is necessary to build a match grade rifle. For that grade of rifle the barrel has to be virtually free floating forward of the loading mechanism. It is very difficult to make a repeatring rifle match grade. I have shot out to 600 yards using match grade but my eyesight though quite good was never good enough to use open sights beyond 600 yards. I did see a Marine sniper practicing at 1250 yards and he could put everything on the one meter target. Shooting as a real sniper with time to burn, I imagine he could have put everything in the center ring.
Since you are unfamiliar with rifles, a rifle barrel is a
standard industrial item and they are broached not
'stamped'. For any given platform there are many and
various barrels:
https://criterionbarrels.com/products/vintage-service/m1-garand/m1-garand-gi-contour-barrel-2/?v=0b3b97fa6688
https://ammogarand.com/m1gabaus.html
https://royaltigerimports.com/shop/m1-garand-barrels/
And on and on for each platform with myriad twist rates,
features and either quality or price to some greater or
lesser degree. No different from selecting bicycle components.
And the same is true for trigger groups, sights, magazines
and all the other parts down to wood vs composite stocks of
a zillion varieties.
Gunsmithing is at least as skilled and complex as bicycle
wrenching.
I used the term "stamping" because cheap guns are indeed stanped with the rifling in them. The results are that the rifling is very crude and the accuracy of the weapon is very poor. Your references are to 30-06 barrels. 5 1/2 million of these were made for WW II and Korea. Those match grade marrels were made after that and chambered for .308 ammunition which is a shorter round. The Garand was a military weapon and MUCH better than cheap crap available today for many (especially) pistols.
While broaching is a far better process it requires an extra machinging process because the barrel must be machined for diameter of the intended caliber and broached as a secondary process. With a stamping, the barrel can be a pretty crude barrel stamoped onto a form all in one operation. You can spot the stamped versions because they show the seams fron the press.
On 12/27/2025 6:56 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Mon Dec 22 16:52:09 2025 John B. wrote:
On Mon, 22 Dec 2025 12:15:57 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 12/22/2025 12:12 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Mon Dec 22 05:45:22 2025 Catrike Ryder wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2025 23:44:17 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2025 19:16:12 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> >>>>>>> wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2025 19:08:16 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> >>>>>>>> wrote:
Starting a business in San Leandro:
<https://www.sanleandrochamber.com/assets/pdf/Starting+a+Business+in+SL+Packet/>
"Do I need a license if I work out of my home?
Yes. Businesses operated out of the home require a business license >>>>>>>>> and must comply with the City?s Zoning Ordinance."
More:
"Prior to starting a home-based business, owners must read and sign a >>>>>>>> Home Occupation Permit Agreement, which includes specific conditions >>>>>>>> of agreement."
Over the years I've come across people who aren't formally employed >>>>>>> that simply do jobs for others and receive money for doing it. When I >>>>>>> was in high school a classmate mowed lawns. He had his own lawn mower >>>>>>> and worked 6 days a week mowing lawns, we were all Jealous as he saved >>>>>>> enough that he bought his own auto the day he turned 16 and could have >>>>>>> a driver's license.
I've done similar things when I was working, gone out and surveyed a >>>>>>> potential project and advised people how to do the work and even >>>>>>> suggested people to do the project for them and received a very nice >>>>>>> 'gift' for doing so.
Does the U.S. let you get away with doing that tax free as a way of >>>>>>> life...... I suspect, from your posts that you may be familiar with >>>>>>> this sort of problem (;-)
You might not get away with it if the entity that's paying you is
claiming and deducting the payment as an expence. Otherwise getting >>>>>> paid "under the table" is pretty common for "odd jobs."
Is it your belief that my selling my personal car or bicycle constitutes a business? I find it humourous that failure of a human being will lie about anything.
From reports here, you do not meet the standard for a
business. There are rules and tests (of long standing):
https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/heres-how-to-tell-the-difference-between-a-hobby-and-a-business-for-tax-purposes
Lets see... at one time I was in the Air Force, worked
weekends for a local company and built custom rifles in my spare
time....... (:-)
I'll take your word fopr it but tell me how you rifled a barre. Cheaper modern guns often have the rifling stamped in and you certainly aren't going to do that. So I will assume that you bought the mechanism and are really saying that you built the stock. I have the woodworking skills and the knowledge and I also know what is necessary to build a match grade rifle. For that grade of rifle the barrel has to be virtually free floating forward of the loading mechanism. It is very difficult to make a repeatring rifle match grade. I have shot out to 600 yards using match grade but my eyesight though quite good was never good enough to use open sights beyond 600 yards. I did see a Marine sniper practicing at 1250 yards and he could put everything on the one meter target. Shooting as a real sniper with time to burn, I imagine he could have put everything in the center ring.
Since you are unfamiliar with rifles, a rifle barrel is a
standard industrial item and they are broached not
'stamped'. For any given platform there are many and
various barrels:
https://criterionbarrels.com/products/vintage-service/m1-garand/m1-garand-gi-contour-barrel-2/?v=0b3b97fa6688
https://ammogarand.com/m1gabaus.html
https://royaltigerimports.com/shop/m1-garand-barrels/
And on and on for each platform with myriad twist rates,
features and either quality or price to some greater or
lesser degree. No different from selecting bicycle components.
And the same is true for trigger groups, sights, magazines
and all the other parts down to wood vs composite stocks of
a zillion varieties.
Gunsmithing is at least as skilled and complex as bicycle
wrenching.
On Sun, 28 Dec 2025 21:03:07 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
I used the term "stamping" because cheap guns are indeed stanped with the rifling in them.
Stamping is for sheet metal. I don't recall seeing any rifles with
sheet metal barrels.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stamping_(metalworking)>
"Stamping (also known as pressing) is the process of placing flat
sheet metal in either blank or coil form into a stamping press where a
tool and die surface forms the metal into a new shape."
However, if you're talking about a really old musket, some were made
by winding wrought iron strips around an iron mandrel. Muskets had
smooth bore barrels although there were some muskets between 1840 -
1860 that had rifling. Hint: Rifling doesn't work well with
spherical "ball" style bullets.
On Sun, 28 Dec 2025 13:40:38 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:
On Sun, 28 Dec 2025 21:03:07 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
I used the term "stamping" because cheap guns are indeed stanped with the rifling in them.
Stamping is for sheet metal. I don't recall seeing any rifles with
sheet metal barrels.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stamping_(metalworking)>
"Stamping (also known as pressing) is the process of placing flat
sheet metal in either blank or coil form into a stamping press where a
tool and die surface forms the metal into a new shape."
However, if you're talking about a really old musket, some were made
by winding wrought iron strips around an iron mandrel. Muskets had
smooth bore barrels although there were some muskets between 1840 -
1860 that had rifling. Hint: Rifling doesn't work well with
spherical "ball" style bullets.
Errrr...... A musket is by definition a smooth bore weapon while one
with rifling is a "rifle".
One of the various army's reluctance to convert from muskets to rifles
was that rifles were much slower to load until the invention of the
Mini which was a hollow base bullet that was easy to load but expanded
when fired to engage the riffling.
see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mini%C3%A9_ball
On 12/27/2025 6:56 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Mon Dec 22 16:52:09 2025 John B.-a wrote:
On Mon, 22 Dec 2025 12:15:57 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 12/22/2025 12:12 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Mon Dec 22 05:45:22 2025 Catrike Ryder-a wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2025 23:44:17 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2025 19:16:12 -0800, Jeff Liebermann
<jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2025 19:08:16 -0800, Jeff Liebermann
<jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:
Starting a business in San Leandro:
<https://www.sanleandrochamber.com/assets/pdf/
Starting+a+Business+in+SL+Packet/>
"Do I need a license if I work out of my home?
Yes. Businesses operated out of the home require a business >>>>>>>>> license
and must comply with the City?s Zoning Ordinance."
More:
"Prior to starting a home-based business, owners must read and >>>>>>>> sign a
Home Occupation Permit Agreement, which includes specific
conditions
of agreement."
Over the years I've come across people who aren't formally employed >>>>>>> that simply do jobs for others and receive money for doing it.
When I
was in high school a classmate mowed lawns. He had his own lawn >>>>>>> mower
and worked 6 days a week mowing lawns, we were all Jealous as he >>>>>>> saved
enough that he bought his own auto the day he turned 16 and could >>>>>>> have
a driver's license.
I've done similar things when I was working, gone out and surveyed a >>>>>>> potential project and advised people how to do the work and even >>>>>>> suggested people to do the project for them and received a very nice >>>>>>> 'gift' for doing so.
Does the U.S. let you get away with doing that tax free as a way of >>>>>>> life...... I suspect, from your posts that you may be familiar with >>>>>>> this sort of problem (;-)
You might not get away with it if the entity that's paying you is
claiming and deducting the payment as an expence. Otherwise getting >>>>>> paid "under the table" is pretty common for "odd jobs."
Is it your belief that my selling my personal car or bicycle
constitutes a business? I find it humourous that failure of a human >>>>> being will lie about anything.
-aFrom reports here, you do not meet the standard for a
business.-a There are rules and tests (of long standing):
https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/heres-how-to-tell-the-difference-
between-a-hobby-and-a-business-for-tax-purposes
Lets see... at one time I was in the Air Force, worked
weekends-a-a for a local company and built custom rifles in my spare
time....... (:-)
I'll take your word fopr it but tell me how you rifled a barre.
Cheaper modern guns often have the rifling stamped in and you
certainly aren't going to do that. So I will assume that you bought
the mechanism and are really saying that you built the stock. I have
the woodworking skills and the knowledge and I also know what is
necessary to build a match grade rifle. For that grade of rifle the
barrel has to be virtually free floating forward of the loading
mechanism. It is very difficult to make a repeatring rifle match
grade. I have shot out to 600 yards using match grade but my eyesight
though quite good was never good enough to use open sights beyond 600
yards. I did see a Marine sniper practicing at 1250 yards and he could
put everything on the one meter target. Shooting as a real sniper with
time to burn, I imagine he could have put everything in the center ring.
Since you are unfamiliar with rifles, a rifle barrel is a standard industrial item and they are broached not 'stamped'.-a For any given platform there are many and various barrels:
https://criterionbarrels.com/products/vintage-service/m1-garand/m1- garand-gi-contour-barrel-2/?v=0b3b97fa6688
https://ammogarand.com/m1gabaus.html
https://royaltigerimports.com/shop/m1-garand-barrels/
And on and on for each platform with myriad twist rates, features and
either quality or price to some greater or lesser degree.-a No different from selecting bicycle components.
And the same is true for trigger groups, sights, magazines and all the
other parts down to wood vs composite stocks of a zillion varieties.
Gunsmithing is at least as skilled and complex as bicycle wrenching.
On 12/28/2025 10:10 AM, AMuzi wrote:
On 12/27/2025 6:56 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Mon Dec 22 16:52:09 2025 John B.-a wrote:
On Mon, 22 Dec 2025 12:15:57 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote: >>>>
On 12/22/2025 12:12 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Mon Dec 22 05:45:22 2025 Catrike Ryder-a wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2025 23:44:17 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2025 19:16:12 -0800, Jeff Liebermann
<jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2025 19:08:16 -0800, Jeff Liebermann
<jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:
Starting a business in San Leandro:
<https://www.sanleandrochamber.com/assets/pdf/
Starting+a+Business+in+SL+Packet/>
"Do I need a license if I work out of my home?
Yes. Businesses operated out of the home require a business >>>>>>>>>> license
and must comply with the City?s Zoning Ordinance."
More:
"Prior to starting a home-based business, owners must read and >>>>>>>>> sign a
Home Occupation Permit Agreement, which includes specific
conditions
of agreement."
Over the years I've come across people who aren't formally employed >>>>>>>> that simply do jobs for others and receive money for doing it. >>>>>>>> When I
was in high school a classmate mowed lawns. He had his own lawn >>>>>>>> mower
and worked 6 days a week mowing lawns, we were all Jealous as he >>>>>>>> saved
enough that he bought his own auto the day he turned 16 and could >>>>>>>> have
a driver's license.
I've done similar things when I was working, gone out and surveyed a >>>>>>>> potential project and advised people how to do the work and even >>>>>>>> suggested people to do the project for them and received a very nice >>>>>>>> 'gift' for doing so.
Does the U.S. let you get away with doing that tax free as a way of >>>>>>>> life...... I suspect, from your posts that you may be familiar with >>>>>>>> this sort of problem (;-)
You might not get away with it if the entity that's paying you is >>>>>>> claiming and deducting the payment as an expence. Otherwise getting >>>>>>> paid "under the table" is pretty common for "odd jobs."
Is it your belief that my selling my personal car or bicycle
constitutes a business? I find it humourous that failure of a human >>>>>> being will lie about anything.
-aFrom reports here, you do not meet the standard for a
business.-a There are rules and tests (of long standing):
https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/heres-how-to-tell-the-difference-
between-a-hobby-and-a-business-for-tax-purposes
Lets see... at one time I was in the Air Force, worked
weekends-a-a for a local company and built custom rifles in my spare
time....... (:-)
I'll take your word fopr it but tell me how you rifled a barre.
Cheaper modern guns often have the rifling stamped in and you
certainly aren't going to do that. So I will assume that you bought
the mechanism and are really saying that you built the stock. I have
the woodworking skills and the knowledge and I also know what is
necessary to build a match grade rifle. For that grade of rifle the
barrel has to be virtually free floating forward of the loading
mechanism. It is very difficult to make a repeatring rifle match
grade. I have shot out to 600 yards using match grade but my eyesight
though quite good was never good enough to use open sights beyond 600
yards. I did see a Marine sniper practicing at 1250 yards and he could
put everything on the one meter target. Shooting as a real sniper with
time to burn, I imagine he could have put everything in the center ring.
Since you are unfamiliar with rifles, a rifle barrel is a standard
industrial item and they are broached not 'stamped'.-a For any given
platform there are many and various barrels:
https://criterionbarrels.com/products/vintage-service/m1-garand/m1-
garand-gi-contour-barrel-2/?v=0b3b97fa6688
https://ammogarand.com/m1gabaus.html
https://royaltigerimports.com/shop/m1-garand-barrels/
And on and on for each platform with myriad twist rates, features and
either quality or price to some greater or lesser degree.-a No different
from selecting bicycle components.
And the same is true for trigger groups, sights, magazines and all the
other parts down to wood vs composite stocks of a zillion varieties.
Gunsmithing is at least as skilled and complex as bicycle wrenching.
I would say significantly moreso - bikes don't explode in your face if
they aren't built well.
I was wondering about the idea of 'stamping' rifling inside a gun barrel
- I opted to let others who may have more insight in that area comment
on the idea since I have no experience at all in gunsmithing.
However I do have some experience with metal casting, forging, and machining. The idea of 'stamping' rifling inside a gun barrel doesn't
make sense since I _do_ understand the process involved in making high-strength enclosures, specifically those used as 'Explosion-Proof'
(aka Flame-Proof).
Casting, forging, or machining something designed to contain an
explosion has it's own considerations - nothing extensively complicated
but production controls are critical. Our EX enclosures have to
withstand 125PSI "instantaneous*" internal pressure measured by filling
the sealed enclosure with a methane mixture and igniting it, then
withstand 500PSI internal pressure measure hydrostatically. We have the luxury of only being required to withstand the the explosion followed by
the hydrostatic test once to pass the testing. Guns need to be able to contain the impulse thousands of times.
We have a large machining operation at my company since we manufacture
these explosion-proof enclosures. We have three foundry pits for casting zinc alloy parts, two forges (both about 15 feet tall) and 8 CAM modules (two of which are larger than my first apartment). We contract out the larger Ex enclosure to a local casting company, then get the raw cast
parts in for finishing with machining, x-ray, and visual inspection.
The idea that rifling could somehow be 'stamped' inside a barrel was unimaginable to me, but as I said, it's not my area of expertise and
I've been wrong about things like this before. I see now that my
incredulity to the claim is probably well-founded.
*"instantaneous" is theoretically calculable but practically impossible
to measure as explosion impulses are theoretically infinite. The certification labs use a 5 Hz filter on the transducer to set the
impulse reference that they then base the hysdrostatic number on.
On 12/28/2025 10:10 AM, AMuzi wrote:
On 12/27/2025 6:56 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Mon Dec 22 16:52:09 2025 John B.-a wrote:
On Mon, 22 Dec 2025 12:15:57 -0600, AMuzi
<am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 12/22/2025 12:12 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Mon Dec 22 05:45:22 2025 Catrike Ryder-a wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2025 23:44:17 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2025 19:16:12 -0800, Jeff Liebermann
<jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2025 19:08:16 -0800, Jeff Liebermann
<jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:
Starting a business in San Leandro:
<https://www.sanleandrochamber.com/assets/pdf/
Starting+a+Business+in+SL+Packet/>
"Do I need a license if I work out of my home?
Yes. Businesses operated out of the home require a
business license
and must comply with the City?s Zoning Ordinance."
More:
"Prior to starting a home-based business, owners
must read and sign a
Home Occupation Permit Agreement, which includes
specific conditions
of agreement."
Over the years I've come across people who aren't
formally employed
that simply do jobs for others and receive money for
doing it. When I
was in high school a classmate mowed lawns. He had
his own lawn mower
and worked 6 days a week mowing lawns, we were all
Jealous as he saved
enough that he bought his own auto the day he turned
16 and could have
a driver's license.
I've done similar things when I was working, gone
out and surveyed a
potential project and advised people how to do the
work and even
suggested people to do the project for them and
received a very nice
'gift' for doing so.
Does the U.S. let you get away with doing that tax
free as a way of
life...... I suspect, from your posts that you may
be familiar with
this sort of problem (;-)
You might not get away with it if the entity that's
paying you is
claiming and deducting the payment as an expence.
Otherwise getting
paid "under the table" is pretty common for "odd jobs."
Is it your belief that my selling my personal car or
bicycle constitutes a business? I find it humourous
that failure of a human being will lie about anything.
-aFrom reports here, you do not meet the standard for a
business.-a There are rules and tests (of long standing):
https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/heres-how-to-tell-the-
difference- between-a-hobby-and-a-business-for-tax-
purposes
Lets see... at one time I was in the Air Force, worked
weekends-a-a for a local company and built custom rifles
in my spare
time....... (:-)
I'll take your word fopr it but tell me how you rifled a
barre. Cheaper modern guns often have the rifling stamped
in and you certainly aren't going to do that. So I will
assume that you bought the mechanism and are really
saying that you built the stock. I have the woodworking
skills and the knowledge and I also know what is
necessary to build a match grade rifle. For that grade of
rifle the barrel has to be virtually free floating
forward of the loading mechanism. It is very difficult to
make a repeatring rifle match grade. I have shot out to
600 yards using match grade but my eyesight though quite
good was never good enough to use open sights beyond 600
yards. I did see a Marine sniper practicing at 1250 yards
and he could put everything on the one meter target.
Shooting as a real sniper with time to burn, I imagine he
could have put everything in the center ring.
Since you are unfamiliar with rifles, a rifle barrel is a
standard industrial item and they are broached not
'stamped'.-a For any given platform there are many and
various barrels:
https://criterionbarrels.com/products/vintage-service/m1-
garand/m1- garand-gi-contour-barrel-2/?v=0b3b97fa6688
https://ammogarand.com/m1gabaus.html
https://royaltigerimports.com/shop/m1-garand-barrels/
And on and on for each platform with myriad twist rates,
features and either quality or price to some greater or
lesser degree.-a No different from selecting bicycle
components.
And the same is true for trigger groups, sights, magazines
and all the other parts down to wood vs composite stocks
of a zillion varieties.
Gunsmithing is at least as skilled and complex as bicycle
wrenching.
I would say significantly moreso - bikes don't explode in
your face if they aren't built well.
I was wondering about the idea of 'stamping' rifling inside
a gun barrel - I opted to let others who may have more
insight in that area comment on the idea since I have no
experience at all in gunsmithing.
However I do have some experience with metal casting,
forging, and machining. The idea of 'stamping' rifling
inside a gun barrel doesn't make sense since I _do_
understand the process involved in making high-strength
enclosures, specifically those used as 'Explosion-
Proof' (aka Flame-Proof).
Casting, forging, or machining something designed to contain
an explosion has it's own considerations - nothing
extensively complicated but production controls are
critical. Our EX enclosures have to withstand 125PSI
"instantaneous*" internal pressure measured by filling the
sealed enclosure with a methane mixture and igniting it,
then withstand 500PSI internal pressure measure
hydrostatically. We have the luxury of only being required
to withstand the the explosion followed by the hydrostatic
test once to pass the testing. Guns need to be able to
contain the impulse thousands of times.
We have a large machining operation at my company since we
manufacture these explosion-proof enclosures. We have three
foundry pits for casting zinc alloy parts, two forges (both
about 15 feet tall) and 8 CAM modules (two of which are
larger than my first apartment). We contract out the larger
Ex enclosure to a local casting company, then get the raw
cast parts in for finishing with machining, x-ray, and
visual inspection.
The idea that rifling could somehow be 'stamped' inside a
barrel was unimaginable to me, but as I said, it's not my
area of expertise and I've been wrong about things like this
before. I see now that my incredulity to the claim is
probably well-founded.
*"instantaneous" is theoretically calculable but practically
impossible to measure as explosion impulses are
theoretically infinite. The certification labs use a 5 Hz
filter on the transducer to set the impulse reference that
they then base the hysdrostatic number on.
On 12/29/2025 7:11 AM, zen cycle wrote:
On 12/28/2025 10:10 AM, AMuzi wrote:
On 12/27/2025 6:56 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Mon Dec 22 16:52:09 2025 John B.a wrote:
On Mon, 22 Dec 2025 12:15:57 -0600, AMuzi
<am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 12/22/2025 12:12 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Mon Dec 22 05:45:22 2025 Catrike Rydera wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2025 23:44:17 -0800, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2025 19:16:12 -0800, Jeff Liebermann
<jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2025 19:08:16 -0800, Jeff Liebermann
<jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:
Starting a business in San Leandro:
<https://www.sanleandrochamber.com/assets/pdf/
Starting+a+Business+in+SL+Packet/>
"Do I need a license if I work out of my home?
Yes. Businesses operated out of the home require a
business license
and must comply with the City?s Zoning Ordinance."
More:
"Prior to starting a home-based business, owners
must read and sign a
Home Occupation Permit Agreement, which includes
specific conditions
of agreement."
Over the years I've come across people who aren't
formally employed
that simply do jobs for others and receive money for
doing it. When I
was in high school a classmate mowed lawns. He had
his own lawn mower
and worked 6 days a week mowing lawns, we were all
Jealous as he saved
enough that he bought his own auto the day he turned
16 and could have
a driver's license.
I've done similar things when I was working, gone
out and surveyed a
potential project and advised people how to do the
work and even
suggested people to do the project for them and
received a very nice
'gift' for doing so.
Does the U.S. let you get away with doing that tax
free as a way of
life...... I suspect, from your posts that you may
be familiar with
this sort of problem (;-)
You might not get away with it if the entity that's
paying you is
claiming and deducting the payment as an expence.
Otherwise getting
paid "under the table" is pretty common for "odd jobs."
Is it your belief that my selling my personal car or
bicycle constitutes a business? I find it humourous
that failure of a human being will lie about anything.
aFrom reports here, you do not meet the standard for a
business.a There are rules and tests (of long standing):
https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/heres-how-to-tell-the-
difference- between-a-hobby-and-a-business-for-tax-
purposes
Lets see... at one time I was in the Air Force, worked
weekendsaa for a local company and built custom rifles
in my spare
time....... (:-)
I'll take your word fopr it but tell me how you rifled a
barre. Cheaper modern guns often have the rifling stamped
in and you certainly aren't going to do that. So I will
assume that you bought the mechanism and are really
saying that you built the stock. I have the woodworking
skills and the knowledge and I also know what is
necessary to build a match grade rifle. For that grade of
rifle the barrel has to be virtually free floating
forward of the loading mechanism. It is very difficult to
make a repeatring rifle match grade. I have shot out to
600 yards using match grade but my eyesight though quite
good was never good enough to use open sights beyond 600
yards. I did see a Marine sniper practicing at 1250 yards
and he could put everything on the one meter target.
Shooting as a real sniper with time to burn, I imagine he
could have put everything in the center ring.
Since you are unfamiliar with rifles, a rifle barrel is a
standard industrial item and they are broached not
'stamped'.a For any given platform there are many and
various barrels:
https://criterionbarrels.com/products/vintage-service/m1-
garand/m1- garand-gi-contour-barrel-2/?v=0b3b97fa6688
https://ammogarand.com/m1gabaus.html
https://royaltigerimports.com/shop/m1-garand-barrels/
And on and on for each platform with myriad twist rates,
features and either quality or price to some greater or
lesser degree.a No different from selecting bicycle
components.
And the same is true for trigger groups, sights, magazines
and all the other parts down to wood vs composite stocks
of a zillion varieties.
Gunsmithing is at least as skilled and complex as bicycle
wrenching.
I would say significantly moreso - bikes don't explode in
your face if they aren't built well.
I was wondering about the idea of 'stamping' rifling inside
a gun barrel - I opted to let others who may have more
insight in that area comment on the idea since I have no
experience at all in gunsmithing.
However I do have some experience with metal casting,
forging, and machining. The idea of 'stamping' rifling
inside a gun barrel doesn't make sense since I _do_
understand the process involved in making high-strength
enclosures, specifically those used as 'Explosion-
Proof' (aka Flame-Proof).
Casting, forging, or machining something designed to contain
an explosion has it's own considerations - nothing
extensively complicated but production controls are
critical. Our EX enclosures have to withstand 125PSI
"instantaneous*" internal pressure measured by filling the
sealed enclosure with a methane mixture and igniting it,
then withstand 500PSI internal pressure measure
hydrostatically. We have the luxury of only being required
to withstand the the explosion followed by the hydrostatic
test once to pass the testing. Guns need to be able to
contain the impulse thousands of times.
We have a large machining operation at my company since we
manufacture these explosion-proof enclosures. We have three
foundry pits for casting zinc alloy parts, two forges (both
about 15 feet tall) and 8 CAM modules (two of which are
larger than my first apartment). We contract out the larger
Ex enclosure to a local casting company, then get the raw
cast parts in for finishing with machining, x-ray, and
visual inspection.
The idea that rifling could somehow be 'stamped' inside a
barrel was unimaginable to me, but as I said, it's not my
area of expertise and I've been wrong about things like this
before. I see now that my incredulity to the claim is
probably well-founded.
*"instantaneous" is theoretically calculable but practically
impossible to measure as explosion impulses are
theoretically infinite. The certification labs use a 5 Hz
filter on the transducer to set the impulse reference that
they then base the hysdrostatic number on.
+1
Since you actually understand materials and production the
term "stamping" as regards firearm barrels is ridiculous on
its face. Similarly, I had an overly long conversation with
a breathless enthusiast of 3D printing in which I agreed it
could produce intake manifolds or cam gears but never a
crankshaft.
On Sun, 28 Dec 2025 13:40:38 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>When I went with my cop friend to the (weekly? monthly?) gun show in Phoenix I was told that cheap guns, particularly pistols, had a crude oversize hole bored through the barrel, a die inserted and the barrel pressed or stamped and then the die removed like a screw. They showed me the marks on the barrels. Since these were the people selling these guns, I am more likely to believe them than you or Andrew, who at best are amatures. I believe that the only important thing is the bore diameter and that the accuracy of the grooves and lands is somewhat secondary.
wrote:
On Sun, 28 Dec 2025 21:03:07 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
I used the term "stamping" because cheap guns are indeed stanped with the rifling in them.
Stamping is for sheet metal. I don't recall seeing any rifles with
sheet metal barrels.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stamping_(metalworking)>
"Stamping (also known as pressing) is the process of placing flat
sheet metal in either blank or coil form into a stamping press where a
tool and die surface forms the metal into a new shape."
However, if you're talking about a really old musket, some were made
by winding wrought iron strips around an iron mandrel. Muskets had
smooth bore barrels although there were some muskets between 1840 -
1860 that had rifling. Hint: Rifling doesn't work well with
spherical "ball" style bullets.
Errrr...... A musket is by definition a smooth bore weapon while one
with rifling is a "rifle".
One of the various army's reluctance to convert from muskets to rifles
was that rifles were much slower to load until the invention of the
Mini which was a hollow base bullet that was easy to load but expanded
when fired to engage the riffling.
see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mini%C3%A9_ball
--
cheers,
On Sun Dec 28 17:36:06 2025 John B. wrote:
On Sun, 28 Dec 2025 13:40:38 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:
On Sun, 28 Dec 2025 21:03:07 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
I used the term "stamping" because cheap guns are indeed stanped with the rifling in them.
Stamping is for sheet metal. I don't recall seeing any rifles with
sheet metal barrels.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stamping_(metalworking)>
"Stamping (also known as pressing) is the process of placing flat
sheet metal in either blank or coil form into a stamping press where a
tool and die surface forms the metal into a new shape."
However, if you're talking about a really old musket, some were made
by winding wrought iron strips around an iron mandrel. Muskets had
smooth bore barrels although there were some muskets between 1840 -
1860 that had rifling. Hint: Rifling doesn't work well with
spherical "ball" style bullets.
Errrr...... A musket is by definition a smooth bore weapon while one
with rifling is a "rifle".
One of the various army's reluctance to convert from muskets to rifles
was that rifles were much slower to load until the invention of the
Mini which was a hollow base bullet that was easy to load but expanded
when fired to engage the riffling.
see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mini%C3%A9_ball
--
cheers,
When I went with my cop friend to the (weekly? monthly?) gun show in Phoenix I was told that cheap guns, particularly pistols, had a crude oversize hole bored through the barrel, a die inserted and the barrel pressed or stamped and then the die removed like a screw. They showed me the marks on the barrels. Since these were the people selling these guns, I am more likely to believe them than you or Andrew, who at best are amatures. I believe that the only important thing is the bore diameter and that the accuracy of the grooves and lands is somewhat secondary.
I can tell you that the slightest unequal pressure from the stock of a match grade rifle barrel allows the barrel to shift slightly from one shot to the next and destroying the long range accuracy. This is why bedding of the stock is so important on match rifles.
When I went with my cop friend to the (weekly? monthly?) gun show in Phoenix I was told that cheap guns, particularly pistols, had a crude oversize hole bored through the barrel, a die inserted and the barrel pressed or stamped and then the die removed like a screw.
They showed me the marks on the barrels. Since these were the people selling these guns, I am more likely to believe them than you or Andrew, who at best are amatures. I believe that the only important thing is the bore diameter and that the accuracy of the grooves and lands is somewhat secondary.
I can tell you that the slightest unequal pressure from the stock of a match grade rifle barrel allows the barrel to shift slightly from one shot to the next and destroying the long range accuracy. This is why bedding of the stock is so important on match rifles.
Oversized? For a given size bullet, the barrel bore is clearly
specified.
On Sun Dec 28 17:36:06 2025 John B. wrote:
On Sun, 28 Dec 2025 13:40:38 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:
On Sun, 28 Dec 2025 21:03:07 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
I used the term "stamping" because cheap guns are indeed stanped with the rifling in them.
Stamping is for sheet metal. I don't recall seeing any rifles with
sheet metal barrels.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stamping_(metalworking)>
"Stamping (also known as pressing) is the process of placing flat
sheet metal in either blank or coil form into a stamping press where a
tool and die surface forms the metal into a new shape."
However, if you're talking about a really old musket, some were made
by winding wrought iron strips around an iron mandrel. Muskets had
smooth bore barrels although there were some muskets between 1840 -
1860 that had rifling. Hint: Rifling doesn't work well with
spherical "ball" style bullets.
Errrr...... A musket is by definition a smooth bore weapon while one
with rifling is a "rifle".
One of the various army's reluctance to convert from muskets to rifles
was that rifles were much slower to load until the invention of the
Mini which was a hollow base bullet that was easy to load but expanded
when fired to engage the riffling.
see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mini%C3%A9_ball
--
cheers,
When I went with my cop friend to the (weekly? monthly?) gun show in Phoenix I was told that cheap guns, particularly pistols, had a crude oversize hole bored through the barrel, a die inserted and the barrel pressed or stamped and then the die removed like a screw. They showed me the marks on the barrels. Since these were the people selling these guns, I am more likely to believe them than you or Andrew, who at best are amatures. I believe that the only important thing is the bore diameter and that the accuracy of the grooves and lands is somewhat secondary.
I can tell you that the slightest unequal pressure from the stock of a match grade rifle barrel allows the barrel to shift slightly from one shot to the next and destroying the long range accuracy. This is why bedding of the stock is so important on match rifles.
Heavy rain is predicted for today and then it is supposed to let up for a week. (This is where Liebermann contradicts the local forecasters because
he is so much more qualified than they are.)
I will be able to get in some riding and I bought some thermals for the
task. They are effective enough that I will be able to get along with
just a wind jacket as a secound layer. Though I've never been a fan of thermal tights with a built in chamois.
This is starting to look like a cold winter since large formations of Canadian geese haave been noisily arriving. They have grown used to
bicycles on the path and aren't getting out of the way. Some even act agressive when you're trying to get by.
Hopefully it dries uo rapidly since the will need to be fitting my new bike to me.
cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:
Heavy rain is predicted for today and then it is supposed to let up for a week. (This is where Liebermann contradicts the local forecasters because he is so much more qualified than they are.)
Doesn?t he live in the Bay Area as well?
Regardless it?s not as if San Leandro is either remote or difficult weather patterns, even with your rides up, Cull Canyon to 800ft shows a fairly flat temperature curve, unlike back in wales with a less of a hight distance,
the ride into town and back for a coffee and cake, the town is 150ft folks are just shy of 800ft but with the Welsh hills being bigger even the old smoother ones are 1,300/2000ft and thus the weather can vary quite significantly over short distances depending on where you are in the valley and wind direction and so on.
Are bigger lumps further into the Brecon Beacons and the Welsh Valley towns with their history ie built for coal/iron are around 1000ft on the valley bottom with their history ie tops being 500ft + above that.
Florida and Australia being only areas inhabited by the newsgroup that
would be warmer/broadly similar temperatures, even London is by some margin colder at the moment it was -5 this morning and is 2ish now at warmest
point, should warm up over next few days to be, just below 10C which is
still by some degree colder than San Leandro which is mid to high teens.
<https://www.accuweather.com/en/us/san-leandro/94577/weather-forecast/337231> I will pass though Heathrow tomorrow early morning which will be just about freezing, Andrew and others will be significantly colder well below
freezing.
It?s clearly and obviously not cold where you are by any stretch, claiming that it is doesn?t do one?s reputation good!
I will be able to get in some riding and I bought some thermals for the task. They are effective enough that I will be able to get along with
just a wind jacket as a secound layer. Though I've never been a fan of thermal tights with a built in chamois.
Surely better than having cycling shorts with pads as well!Our Canadian Geese come from British Colukmbia and they are good predictors of what the weather is or is going to be in BC.
This is starting to look like a cold winter since large formations of Canadian geese haave been noisily arriving. They have grown used to bicycles on the path and aren't getting out of the way. Some even act agressive when you're trying to get by.
Seriously? Just geese which are common around the world.
Hopefully it dries uo rapidly since the will need to be fitting my new bike to me.
Weather forecasts are dry if cloudy for you.
On Tue Jan 6 14:24:11 2026 Roger Merriman wrote:
cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:
Heavy rain is predicted for today and then it is supposed to let up for a >>> week. (This is where Liebermann contradicts the local forecasters because >>> he is so much more qualified than they are.)
Doesn?t he live in the Bay Area as well?
Regardless it?s not as if San Leandro is either remote or difficult weather >> patterns, even with your rides up, Cull Canyon to 800ft shows a fairly flat >> temperature curve, unlike back in wales with a less of a hight distance,
the ride into town and back for a coffee and cake, the town is 150ft folks >> are just shy of 800ft but with the Welsh hills being bigger even the old
smoother ones are 1,300/2000ft and thus the weather can vary quite
significantly over short distances depending on where you are in the valley >> and wind direction and so on.
Are bigger lumps further into the Brecon Beacons and the Welsh Valley towns >> with their history ie built for coal/iron are around 1000ft on the valley
bottom with their history ie tops being 500ft + above that.
Florida and Australia being only areas inhabited by the newsgroup that
would be warmer/broadly similar temperatures, even London is by some margin >> colder at the moment it was -5 this morning and is 2ish now at warmest
point, should warm up over next few days to be, just below 10C which is
still by some degree colder than San Leandro which is mid to high teens.
<https://www.accuweather.com/en/us/san-leandro/94577/weather-forecast/337231>
I will pass though Heathrow tomorrow early morning which will be just about >> freezing, Andrew and others will be significantly colder well below
freezing.
It?s clearly and obviously not cold where you are by any stretch, claiming >> that it is doesn?t do one?s reputation good!
Surely better than having cycling shorts with pads as well!
I will be able to get in some riding and I bought some thermals for the
task. They are effective enough that I will be able to get along with
just a wind jacket as a secound layer. Though I've never been a fan of
thermal tights with a built in chamois.
This is starting to look like a cold winter since large formations of
Canadian geese haave been noisily arriving. They have grown used to
bicycles on the path and aren't getting out of the way. Some even act
agressive when you're trying to get by.
Seriously? Just geese which are common around the world.
Weather forecasts are dry if cloudy for you.
Hopefully it dries uo rapidly since the will need to be fitting my new bike to me.
Our Canadian Geese come from British Colukmbia and they are good
predictors of what the weather is or is going to be in BC.
I put in 26 miles discounting the mile I put in before remembering to
turn the Garmin on. Got a flat and rode it for the last mile, Note to
self - cold tires feel well inflated.
I did my flat ride today because there were scattered showers predicted
for the afternoon. And I did catch a very light rain at 11:30.
My thermals worked very well in the morning and it is now 60 degrees
which I do not believe but the thermometer outside agrees with the internet.
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