From Newsgroup: rec.aviation.military

On 8/13/25 21:35, Geoff wrote:

On 14/08/2025 11:38 am, a425couple wrote:

On 8/13/25 10:12, Alan wrote:

On 2025-08-13 09:34, a425couple wrote:

Jaguar in the past was a auto racing great, and a F1 team.
The automaker has slipped greatly. Very great slide!
Here is an interesting opinion.

Other than mentioning in passing that Jaguar had an F1 team (for all
of 5 years), how is any of this remotely on topic,

Pretty clear message for Ferrari, Mercedes, Aston Martin, McLaren,
and Alpine Renault on how not to try for pink and WOKE on their
performance and luxury cars marketing.

and not just a political diatribe from a man who voted for a felon
and pedophile?

"pedophile?"
Seriously Alan?
You sure have opinions, and voice conclusions.

It is also amazing how wound up emotionally many Canadians
have gotten.

Dude, not just Canadians - it's the whole world. Because that's who he
is fucking up.

OK Geoff, are you Canadian, or from UK, or other?

What have you, and your country, done to so weaken yourselves
that you can try claiming 'victimization' ?

How can you claim "Trump is fucking up the whole world" ?

I'll take some time and effort on one classic Trump disruption.
Because indeed, Trump is a disrupter, and he gets changes made.
And change makes everyone uncomfortable. But sometimes changes
have really needed to be done.
For decades, the USA has spent in total, and by all measures
percent of GDP, way more than the rest of NATO has spent
on defense of our free world. The rest of NATO has been
'cheaping out" and depending on the USA citizen to pay
to protect them from military force.
For decades, our various Presidents have talked about this
politely, and generally all the NATO heads have politely
said they will try improving. But 'other needs' have
always taken precedence, so it never happened.

Then Trump the Jerk, complains, and very pointedly says
for those countries not paying their proper share,
maybe we won't protect you if you get invaded.
How rude. Everyone gets offended at the Jerk.
But, over a couple of years, most of NATO has seriously
finally increased their defense spending.

In 1950, when the F1 World Driving Championship was started,
So, cue up and sing along to get in proper spirit: https://www.google.com/search?gs_ssp=eJzj4tVP1zc0TDMyMzMvKCsxYPSSTCrKLEnMy8tMVCgqzUktVijJSFUoTyxLLQYAFpoOEg&q=britannia+rules+the+waves&rlz=1CAKOCV_enUS1128&oq=Britannia+rules+the+waves&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqDAgBEC4YQxiABBiKBTIMCAAQIxgnGIAEGIoFMgwIARAuGEMYgAQYigUyBwgCEAAYgAQyBwgDEAAYgAQyDAgEEAAYQxiABBiKBTIMCAUQABhDGIAEGIoFMggIBhAAGBYYHjIICAcQABgWGB4yCAgIEAAYFhgeMggICRAAGBYYHtIBCTcyOTFqMGoxNagCDLACAfEFEOi2w4-uL9U&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:25a7fa91,vid:v2c5QHtgFxY,st:66

In 1950:
.
The US economy was the largest by a significant margin, with an
estimated GDP of around $2.1 trillion, according to Facebook.

Soviet Union:.
The Soviet Union's economy was second largest, estimated at around $1.3 trillion, according to Facebook.

United Kingdom:.
The UK had the third largest economy, estimated at around $300 billion, according to Facebook.
Other major economies:
.
Germany (primarily West Germany), Japan, France, and Italy also had
notable GDPs in the 1950s.
It's worth noting that these figures represent nominal GDP and can vary depending on the source and calculation methods.

The UK certainly is a leader in all the many technologies that
contribute to auto racing, but how about overall economic growth?

Lets look at now
Search: Rank Country GDP (USD) % of Total
1 Efc|Efc+ U.S. $26,855B 25.54%
2 Efc?Efc| China $19,374B 18.43%
3 Efc>Efc| Japan $4,410B 4.19%
4 Efc-Efc- Germany $4,309B 4.10%
5 Efc<Efc| India $3,737B 3.55%
6 Efc4Efco UK $3,159B 3.00%
7 Efc2Efc+ France $2,923B 2.78%
8 Efc<Efc| Italy $2,170B 2.06%
9 Efc?Efca Canada $2,090B 1.99%
10 EfcoEfc+ Brazil $2,081B 1.98%



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On 17/08/2025 5:55 am, a425couple wrote:

On 8/13/25 21:35, Geoff wrote:

On 14/08/2025 11:38 am, a425couple wrote:

On 8/13/25 10:12, Alan wrote:

On 2025-08-13 09:34, a425couple wrote:

Jaguar in the past was a auto racing great, and a F1 team.
The automaker has slipped greatly. Very great slide!
Here is an interesting opinion.

Other than mentioning in passing that Jaguar had an F1 team (for all
of 5 years), how is any of this remotely on topic,

Pretty clear message for Ferrari, Mercedes, Aston Martin, McLaren,
and Alpine Renault on how not to try for pink and WOKE on their
performance and luxury cars marketing.

and not just a political diatribe from a man who voted for a felon
and pedophile?

"pedophile?"
Seriously Alan?
You sure have opinions, and voice conclusions.

It is also amazing how wound up emotionally many Canadians
have gotten.

Dude, not just Canadians - it's the whole world. Because that's who he
is fucking up.

OK Geoff, are you Canadian, or from UK, or other?

What have you, and your country, done to so weaken yourselves
that you can try claiming 'victimization' ?

Impose a unilateral 15% tariff on imports from New Zealand, where there
is no justification, apart from whim, for such a tariff.>

How can you claim "Trump is fucking up the whole world" ?

There used to be an organisation called GATT which generally worked, in
a rational way. Trump has basically thrown those principles out the
window and imposed tariffs on countries for reasons of whim, pique, and
because he doesn't like their governments.

I'll take some time and effort on one classic Trump disruption.
Because indeed, Trump is a disrupter, and he gets changes made.

A disrupter, a business failure, a cheater, a liar, a xenop[hobe, a mysogoinist and a whole list of other negative character traits. You
dispute any of those vile traits ?

He is a clown and egoist who does what it takes to be centre-stage. He
does not appear to even understand what he is imposing, what parties are affected, and what the long-term effects may be. He surrounds himself
with sycophants and even appoints them to responsible government
positions - many significant leaders who are hugely unqualified.

And change makes everyone uncomfortable.-a But sometimes changes
have really needed to be done.

But Trump wouldn't know what 'needed to be done' if it bit him in the arse.

For decades, the USA has spent in total, and by all measures
percent of GDP, way more than the rest of NATO has spent
on defense of our free world.-a The rest of NATO has been
'cheaping out" and depending on the USA citizen to pay
to protect them from military force.
For decades, our various Presidents have talked about this
politely, and generally all the NATO heads have politely
said they will try improving.-a But 'other needs' have
always taken precedence, so it never happened.

The USA is by far the largest economy that can afford to do what it
needs, in its claimed role as 'the world's policeman'.

Then Trump the Jerk, complains, and very pointedly says
for those countries not paying their proper share,
maybe we won't protect you if you get invaded.
How rude.-a Everyone gets offended at the Jerk.
But, over a couple of years, most of NATO has seriously
finally increased their defense spending.

In 1950, when the F1 World Driving Championship was started,
So, cue up and sing along to get in proper spirit: https://www.google.com/search? gs_ssp=eJzj4tVP1zc0TDMyMzMvKCsxYPSSTCrKLEnMy8tMVCgqzUktVijJSFUoTyxLLQYAFpoOEg&q=britannia+rules+the+waves&rlz=1CAKOCV_enUS1128&oq=Britannia+rules+the+waves&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqDAgBEC4YQxiABBiKBTIMCAAQIxgnGIAEGIoFMgwIARAuGEMYgAQYigUyBwgCEAAYgAQyBwgDEAAYgAQyDAgEEAAYQxiABBiKBTIMCAUQABhDGIAEGIoFMggIBhAAGBYYHjIICAcQABgWGB4yCAgIEAAYFhgeMggICRAAGBYYHtIBCTcyOTFqMGoxNagCDLACAfEFEOi2w4-uL9U&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:25a7fa91,vid:v2c5QHtgFxY,st:66

Yes, Britain certainly made impacts on the world in the days old yore.
Some for better and some for worse. And now long overtaken by the USA
(and others).

In 1950:
.
The US economy was the largest by a significant margin, with an
estimated GDP of around $2.1 trillion, according to Facebook.

Soviet Union:.
The Soviet Union's economy was second largest, estimated at around $1.3 trillion, according to Facebook.

United Kingdom:.
The UK had the third largest economy, estimated at around $300 billion, according to Facebook.
Other major economies:
.
Germany (primarily West Germany), Japan, France, and Italy also had
notable GDPs in the 1950s.
It's worth noting that these figures represent nominal GDP and can vary depending on the source and calculation methods.

The UK certainly is a leader in all the many technologies that
contribute to auto racing, but how about overall economic growth?

Lets look at now
Search: Rank-a-a-a Country-a-a-a GDP (USD)-a-a-a % of Total
1-a-a-a Efc|Efc+ U.S.-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a $26,855B-a-a-a 25.54%
2-a-a-a Efc?Efc| China-a-a-a $19,374B-a-a-a 18.43%
3-a-a-a Efc>Efc| Japan-a-a-a $4,410B-a-a-a 4.19%
4-a-a-a Efc-Efc- Germany-a-a-a $4,309B-a-a-a 4.10%
5-a-a-a Efc<Efc| India-a-a-a $3,737B-a-a-a 3.55%
6-a-a-a Efc4Efco UK-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a $3,159B-a-a-a 3.00%
7-a-a-a Efc2Efc+ France-a-a-a $2,923B-a-a-a 2.78%
8-a-a-a Efc<Efc| Italy-a-a-a $2,170B-a-a-a 2.06%
9-a-a-a Efc?Efca Canada-a-a-a $2,090B-a-a-a 1.99%
10-a-a-a EfcoEfc+ Brazil-a-a-a $2,081B-a-a-a 1.98%

Yes, and ?
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geoff
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