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On 2/6/25 10:10, dott.Piergiorgio wrote:

On 28/01/25 17:51, a425couple wrote:

It would be wonderful to interact again!

On 1/9/25 02:35, dott.Piergiorgio wrote:

The old Italian doctor !

For who joined this NG in the last decade or so, I was an old-

timer, whose leaves this forum when the S/N ratio caused by spam
became unmanageable.

Because the current server has serious filters, and frankly, also

because the political-military situation in US is very worrying the
Old World, I return in this forum.

for who don't know, I'm a Naval historian, and a first rank one,

and Italian, and of course, well-versed in past and current Italian
Naval matters, living in the former Great Greece (southern Italy)

Later, as an apology (?) for my long leave, I'll deliver a

synthesis of the last decade in the Italian Navy, a decade rivalling
only the 20s... of the last century.

Best regards from Italy,
dott. Piergiorgio.

Can it really be true?
Can my old friend, the famous "dott. Piergiorgio"
be still alive ?
Did the two of us, who almost met and visited over
a glass of wine near the cruise ship dock in
Naples in 2004, really outlive outlive the
newsgroup "sci.military.naval" ?

Really.

and, albeit at 55, I'm still well alive. that s.m.n is following the descending path of USENET is a shame, considered that the rest of the
'Net isn't exactly in good shape.

But for what matters, once a week I'll look here...

as a good appetizer on Italian matters:

- about the new "destroyers" (definitively a CG, displacing, for now,
14.500 tons, but seems that the projected displacement will increase in
the less than year or so prior of the cutting of the first plate.

- about the "LHA" Trieste, actually a triple hybrid, LHA, CVL and CG
(the latter is still not installed, but will a sensor suite on par with
the "destroyer" above

- about the middling/cruising ship line, that is the 1st rank frigates
of the Bergamini and di Revel classes, which now are even larger (and
more homogeneous) than the light cruiser line of yore. (19 versus 12)

Best regards from Italy,
dott. Piergiorgio.

Neat!
Sorry I missed your post for so long.

About 6 months ago we took a cruise line vacation from San Francisco to Hawaii, 4 stops, then Mexico, and back to San Francisco.

We just got done with 12 day trip to Greece. It included jet catamaran
ferry to Mykinos and then Santorine.
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"a425couple" wrote in message news:di3SQ.1414$fIia.933@fx45.iad...

We just got done with 12 day trip to Greece. It included jet catamaran
ferry to Mykinos and then Santorine.

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This casts doubt on the argument that Atlantis must have been beyond
Gibraltar and removes an objection to Atlantis being Santorini:

https://www.livius.org/articles/place/pillars-of-heracles/
"Most famous are the two bronze pillars in front of the temple in Jerusalem, named Boaz and Jakin.note. It is certainly possible that the expression "Pillars of Heracles" originally referred to the columns near the temple of Melqart in Gadeira, apparently important in Phoenician religion, and were later understood to be the name of the two promontories to the south and
north of the Strait of Gibraltar."

There may have been several lost Phoenician temples containing Pillars of Hercules, possibly at the headlands of the Gulf of Corinth. Plato mentions Athens conquering Atlantis and losing the 80 man garrison when the city was destroyed. His description puts it close enough to Greece for shipping to be bothered by the pumice floating in the sea afterwards. He describes
concentric rings of land and water which could be the result of alternating hard lava and soft ash eruptions.

He gives Atlantis three sizes which I believe are the island itself, it's political dominion and its commercial influence, which is the one that's the size of Europe and Asia.

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