• Manufacturing of metal parts

    From Ar@Ar@127.0.0.1 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Tue Oct 28 19:39:47 2025
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    We know that F1 teams over the years have gone through lots of fancy
    processes and materials to cut the weight of parts and still be strong.
    I've been looking on Youtube and found a process called "electric
    discharge machining", which gives tolerances of the thickness of a thin
    wire.

    Would an F1 team use such machines to give effectively zero tolerance
    cutting for mechanical parts? Looking at it it is amazingly accurate
    cutting, far better than a CNC milling machine, but massively slower.
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  • From News@News@Group.Name to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Tue Oct 28 16:21:36 2025
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    On 10/28/2025 3:39 PM, Ar wrote:
    We know that F1 teams over the years have gone through lots of fancy processes and materials to cut the weight of parts and still be strong.
    I've been looking on Youtube and found a process called "electric
    discharge machining", which gives tolerances of the thickness of a thin wire.

    Would an F1 team use such machines to give effectively zero tolerance cutting for mechanical parts? Looking at it it is amazingly accurate cutting, far better than a CNC milling machine, but massively slower.


    EDM (subtractive, precision tolerances, internal machining on conductive metals) vs. 3DP (additive, rapid prototyping of complex designs, light
    weight structures in many materials, including metals)
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  • From dmunz@dlmunz@gmail.com to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Wed Oct 29 00:04:37 2025
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    Ar <Ar@127.0.0.1> wrote:
    We know that F1 teams over the years have gone through lots of fancy processes and materials to cut the weight of parts and still be strong.
    I've been looking on Youtube and found a process called "electric
    discharge machining", which gives tolerances of the thickness of a thin wire.

    Would an F1 team use such machines to give effectively zero tolerance cutting for mechanical parts? Looking at it it is amazingly accurate cutting, far better than a CNC milling machine, but massively slower.


    How much actual metal is on an F1 car anymore? Not being snarky; beyond the powertrain (gears, engine, exhaust) is there anything that isnrCOt carbon
    fiber anymore?

    IrCOm not sure how much more you could shave off the powertrain without sacrificing safety or reliability.
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  • From ~misfit~@shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Wed Oct 29 15:26:25 2025
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    On 29/10/2025 8:39 am, Ar wrote:
    We know that F1 teams over the years have gone through lots of fancy processes and materials to cut
    the weight of parts and still be strong. I've been looking on Youtube and found a process called
    "electric discharge machining", which gives tolerances of the thickness of a thin wire.

    Would an F1 team use such machines to give effectively zero tolerance cutting for mechanical parts?
    Looking at it it is amazingly accurate cutting, far better than a CNC milling machine, but
    massively slower.

    EDM has been around for quite a while now and I dare say that if it brings a benefit to anything an
    F1 team is doing they'll certainly be using it.
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    Shaun.

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  • From Phil Carmody@pc+usenet@asdf.org to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Thu Nov 6 15:36:58 2025
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    ~misfit~ <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> writes:
    On 29/10/2025 8:39 am, Ar wrote:
    We know that F1 teams over the years have gone through lots of fancy
    processes and materials to cut the weight of parts and still be
    strong. I've been looking on Youtube and found a process called
    "electric discharge machining", which gives tolerances of the
    thickness of a thin wire.

    Would an F1 team use such machines to give effectively zero
    tolerance cutting for mechanical parts? Looking at it it is
    amazingly accurate cutting, far better than a CNC milling machine,
    but massively slower.

    EDM has been around for quite a while now and I dare say that if it
    brings a benefit to anything an F1 team is doing they'll certainly be
    using it.

    Steve Mould did an interesting vid on the accuracy and precision of wire
    EDM a while back:
    https://youtu.be/watch?v=f9zyenX2PWk
    Spoiler: the two bits that fit together perfectly aren't cut from the
    same block, as some material has to be lost.

    Phil
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