• **2025 Pool** Race 18, Singapore GP - Final Results

    From Mark@mpconmy@gmail.com to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Thu Oct 9 10:16:57 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.autos.sport.f1


    The top 5 are currently:

    1 Hornplayer9599 214
    1 Mark Jackson 214
    3 durian 212
    4 JohnM 210
    4 Sir Tim 210

    The people who scored points are:

    10 EB5AGV 14
    1 Hornplayer9599 12
    18 Mark 12
    14 Martin Harran 12
    16 ceg 10
    12 Hugh 10
    17 mairsz 10
    8 Phil Carmody 10
    6 a425couple 8
    3 durian 8
    6 Eric 8
    4 JohnM 8
    12 Yazoo 8
    22 Carl Keehn 6
    10 Darryl Johnson 6
    1 Mark Jackson 6
    4 Sir Tim 6
    18 Sreekumar A 6
    23 User8270 6
    9 Alan Baker 4
    21 Ar 4
    14 scole 4
    20 Shaun 4

    Let me know about the inevitable mistakes!
    ;-)

    Mark

    The overall table looks like:

    1 Mark 10 12 10 6 18 10 14 6 10 4
    8 18 18 8 12 12 2 12 190
    2 a425couple 16 12 10 8 6 18 12 8 20 4
    12 12 18 18 12 10 4 8 208
    3 Martin Harran 14 12 6 6 10 14 12 4 10 4
    6 18 20 12 14 12 12 12 198
    4 Darryl Johnson 10 8 10 6 18 14 16 8 14 6
    12 8 12 10 12 20 12 6 202
    5 Geoff 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
    0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
    6 Eric 8 18 10 10 16 12 10 4 14 8
    10 18 24 18 6 10 4 8 208
    7 Yazoo 12 20 10 12 6 18 10 6 20 4
    4 12 18 12 14 12 2 8 200
    8 User8270 10 4 10 6 14 12 10 4 10 8
    10 6 14 12 10 4 4 6 154
    9 Carl Keehn 6 8 10 0 6 12 12 6 20 0
    14 6 20 18 14 10 0 6 168
    10 Sir Tim 16 12 10 8 10 18 12 8 12 0
    6 18 26 12 16 10 10 6 210
    11 scole 12 12 10 4 16 16 10 6 20 4
    6 18 18 18 12 12 0 4 198
    12 Hornplayer9599 10 8 8 18 10 20 18 6 20 4
    8 18 18 8 10 12 6 12 214
    13 Ar 6 10 6 6 14 18 12 14 14 6
    16 6 10 10 8 18 0 4 178
    14 Hugh 12 6 10 12 10 18 14 6 12 2
    6 18 18 18 14 12 2 10 200
    15 D Munz 10 14 6 12 4 12 6 6 4 8
    8 6 2 12 12 6 2 0 130
    16 Shaun 0 0 10 12 6 18 10 16 12 2
    20 18 14 24 6 10 4 4 186
    17 Mark Jackson 18 12 10 12 10 24 10 8 18 2
    8 12 18 12 12 10 12 6 214
    18 JohnM 16 12 10 8 10 18 12 8 20 4
    8 18 18 12 14 12 2 8 210
    19 Phil Carmody 14 12 10 6 6 18 12 6 16 2
    10 18 24 12 12 12 6 10 206
    20 mairsz 12 12 10 16 6 18 12 6 18 2
    6 18 6 12 16 12 2 10 194
    21 Sreekumar A 12 8 12 4 10 16 14 6 12 2
    6 18 20 18 14 10 2 6 190
    22 EB5AGV 20 12 10 4 10 14 14 6 12 2
    6 18 14 24 10 10 2 14 202
    23 durian 20 8 10 8 10 18 12 8 20 4
    6 18 18 12 14 10 8 8 212
    24 Alan Baker 10 20 10 4 6 18 12 10 20 2
    20 18 10 18 10 12 0 4 204
    25 ceg 14 8 10 8 10 12 14 16 12 4
    10 18 10 14 12 12 2 10 196

    Ordered by points:

    1 Hornplayer9599 10 8 8 18 10 20 18 6 20 4
    8 18 18 8 10 12 6 12 214
    1 Mark Jackson 18 12 10 12 10 24 10 8 18 2
    8 12 18 12 12 10 12 6 214
    3 durian 20 8 10 8 10 18 12 8 20 4
    6 18 18 12 14 10 8 8 212
    4 JohnM 16 12 10 8 10 18 12 8 20 4
    8 18 18 12 14 12 2 8 210
    4 Sir Tim 16 12 10 8 10 18 12 8 12 0
    6 18 26 12 16 10 10 6 210
    6 a425couple 16 12 10 8 6 18 12 8 20 4
    12 12 18 18 12 10 4 8 208
    6 Eric 8 18 10 10 16 12 10 4 14 8
    10 18 24 18 6 10 4 8 208
    8 Phil Carmody 14 12 10 6 6 18 12 6 16 2
    10 18 24 12 12 12 6 10 206
    9 Alan Baker 10 20 10 4 6 18 12 10 20 2
    20 18 10 18 10 12 0 4 204
    10 Darryl Johnson 10 8 10 6 18 14 16 8 14 6
    12 8 12 10 12 20 12 6 202
    10 EB5AGV 20 12 10 4 10 14 14 6 12 2
    6 18 14 24 10 10 2 14 202
    12 Hugh 12 6 10 12 10 18 14 6 12 2
    6 18 18 18 14 12 2 10 200
    12 Yazoo 12 20 10 12 6 18 10 6 20 4
    4 12 18 12 14 12 2 8 200
    14 Martin Harran 14 12 6 6 10 14 12 4 10 4
    6 18 20 12 14 12 12 12 198
    14 scole 12 12 10 4 16 16 10 6 20 4
    6 18 18 18 12 12 0 4 198
    16 ceg 14 8 10 8 10 12 14 16 12 4
    10 18 10 14 12 12 2 10 196
    17 mairsz 12 12 10 16 6 18 12 6 18 2
    6 18 6 12 16 12 2 10 194
    18 Mark 10 12 10 6 18 10 14 6 10 4
    8 18 18 8 12 12 2 12 190
    18 Sreekumar A 12 8 12 4 10 16 14 6 12 2
    6 18 20 18 14 10 2 6 190
    20 Shaun 0 0 10 12 6 18 10 16 12 2
    20 18 14 24 6 10 4 4 186
    21 Ar 6 10 6 6 14 18 12 14 14 6
    16 6 10 10 8 18 0 4 178
    22 Carl Keehn 6 8 10 0 6 12 12 6 20 0
    14 6 20 18 14 10 0 6 168
    23 User8270 10 4 10 6 14 12 10 4 10 8
    10 6 14 12 10 4 4 6 154
    24 D Munz 10 14 6 12 4 12 6 6 4 8
    8 6 2 12 12 6 2 0 130
    25 Geoff 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
    0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

    DUPLICATOR RANKER1 RANKER2 RESULTS
    1. BAH HAM VER HAM NOR
    HAM VER LEC HAM RIC VET HAM RIC VET NOR VER RUS
    8 8 15/20 0 0 18/20 0 0 18/20
    2. EMI NOR VER VER PIA
    NOR VER RUS VER STR HUL VER STR HUL PIA NOR RUS
    12 20 17/20 0 0 19/20 0 0 19/20
    3. POR PIA VER VER VER
    PIA NOR RUS VER OCO STR VER OCO STR VER NOR PIA
    10 30 17/20 2 2 19/20 2 2 19/20
    4. SPA VER VER VER PIA
    VER NOR PIA VER OCO STR VER OCO STR PIA RUS NOR
    6 36 18/20 0 2 19/20 0 2 19/20
    5. MON PIA VER VER VER
    PIA RUS NOR VER HAM OCO VER HAM OCO PIA VER LEC
    10 46 17/20 8 10 19/20 8 10 19/20
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From a425couple@a425couple@hotmail.com to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Thu Oct 9 18:06:05 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.autos.sport.f1

    On 10/9/25 03:16, Mark wrote:
    Ahhh, errrrr

    Let me know about the inevitable mistakes!
    Efye >
    Mark

    I hate to disrupt a perfect situation,,,, ahhh, err,
    But bearing in mind
    #1 https://replica.seattletimes.com/html5/reader/production/default.aspx?pubname=&pubid=84d463e0-c035-4c49-902d-95c722bfe073

    and #2, I think I understand the scoring if the 4 picks are perfectly
    correct, But I am really murky on the 'near miss' points.

    I did something unusual for me and looked back at prior numbers,,,,

    But, still, it seems that if it is correct, that I had 202 points
    after Azer, and if I scored 8 at Sing, then the listed
    new total of 208 seems inconsistent.

    Or, is that the whole purpose of "Super secret double blind probation"?


    The top 5 are currently:

    1 Hornplayer9599 214
    1 Mark Jackson 214
    3 durian 212
    4 JohnM 210
    4 Sir Tim 210

    The people who scored points are:

    10 EB5AGV 14
    1 Hornplayer9599 12
    18 Mark 12
    14 Martin Harran 12
    16 ceg 10
    12 Hugh 10
    17 mairsz 10
    8 Phil Carmody 10
    6 a425couple 8
    3 durian 8
    6 Eric 8
    4 JohnM 8
    12 Yazoo 8
    22 Carl Keehn 6
    10 Darryl Johnson 6
    1 Mark Jackson 6
    4 Sir Tim 6
    18 Sreekumar A 6
    23 User8270 6
    9 Alan Baker 4
    21 Ar 4
    14 scole 4
    20 Shaun 4

    Let me know about the inevitable mistakes!
    ;-)

    Mark

    The overall table looks like:

    1 Mark 10 12 10 6 18 10 14 6 10 4
    8 18 18 8 12 12 2 12 190
    2 a425couple 16 12 10 8 6 18 12 8 20 4
    12 12 18 18 12 10 4 8 208
    3 Martin Harran 14 12 6 6 10 14 12 4 10 4
    6 18 20 12 14 12 12 12 198
    4 Darryl Johnson 10 8 10 6 18 14 16 8 14 6
    12 8 12 10 12 20 12 6 202
    5 Geoff 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
    0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
    6 Eric 8 18 10 10 16 12 10 4 14 8
    10 18 24 18 6 10 4 8 208
    7 Yazoo 12 20 10 12 6 18 10 6 20 4
    4 12 18 12 14 12 2 8 200
    8 User8270 10 4 10 6 14 12 10 4 10 8
    10 6 14 12 10 4 4 6 154
    9 Carl Keehn 6 8 10 0 6 12 12 6 20 0
    14 6 20 18 14 10 0 6 168 10 Sir Tim 16 12 10 8 10 18 12 8 12 0
    6 18 26 12 16 10 10 6 210 11 scole 12 12 10 4 16 16 10 6 20 4
    6 18 18 18 12 12 0 4 198 12 Hornplayer9599 10 8 8 18 10 20 18 6 20 4
    8 18 18 8 10 12 6 12 214 13 Ar 6 10 6 6 14 18 12 14 14 6
    16 6 10 10 8 18 0 4 178 14 Hugh 12 6 10 12 10 18 14 6 12 2
    6 18 18 18 14 12 2 10 200 15 D Munz 10 14 6 12 4 12 6 6 4 8
    8 6 2 12 12 6 2 0 130 16 Shaun 0 0 10 12 6 18 10 16 12 2
    20 18 14 24 6 10 4 4 186 17 Mark Jackson 18 12 10 12 10 24 10 8 18 2
    8 12 18 12 12 10 12 6 214 18 JohnM 16 12 10 8 10 18 12 8 20 4
    8 18 18 12 14 12 2 8 210 19 Phil Carmody 14 12 10 6 6 18 12 6 16 2
    10 18 24 12 12 12 6 10 206 20 mairsz 12 12 10 16 6 18 12 6 18 2
    6 18 6 12 16 12 2 10 194 21 Sreekumar A 12 8 12 4 10 16 14 6 12 2
    6 18 20 18 14 10 2 6 190 22 EB5AGV 20 12 10 4 10 14 14 6 12 2
    6 18 14 24 10 10 2 14 202 23 durian 20 8 10 8 10 18 12 8 20 4
    6 18 18 12 14 10 8 8 212 24 Alan Baker 10 20 10 4 6 18 12 10 20 2
    20 18 10 18 10 12 0 4 204 25 ceg 14 8 10 8 10 12 14 16 12 4
    10 18 10 14 12 12 2 10 196

    Ordered by points:

    1 Hornplayer9599 10 8 8 18 10 20 18 6 20 4
    8 18 18 8 10 12 6 12 214
    1 Mark Jackson 18 12 10 12 10 24 10 8 18 2
    8 12 18 12 12 10 12 6 214
    3 durian 20 8 10 8 10 18 12 8 20 4
    6 18 18 12 14 10 8 8 212
    4 JohnM 16 12 10 8 10 18 12 8 20 4
    8 18 18 12 14 12 2 8 210
    4 Sir Tim 16 12 10 8 10 18 12 8 12 0
    6 18 26 12 16 10 10 6 210
    6 a425couple 16 12 10 8 6 18 12 8 20 4
    12 12 18 18 12 10 4 8 208
    6 Eric 8 18 10 10 16 12 10 4 14 8
    10 18 24 18 6 10 4 8 208
    8 Phil Carmody 14 12 10 6 6 18 12 6 16 2
    10 18 24 12 12 12 6 10 206
    9 Alan Baker 10 20 10 4 6 18 12 10 20 2
    20 18 10 18 10 12 0 4 204 10 Darryl Johnson 10 8 10 6 18 14 16 8 14 6
    12 8 12 10 12 20 12 6 202 10 EB5AGV 20 12 10 4 10 14 14 6 12 2
    6 18 14 24 10 10 2 14 202 12 Hugh 12 6 10 12 10 18 14 6 12 2
    6 18 18 18 14 12 2 10 200 12 Yazoo 12 20 10 12 6 18 10 6 20 4
    4 12 18 12 14 12 2 8 200 14 Martin Harran 14 12 6 6 10 14 12 4 10 4
    6 18 20 12 14 12 12 12 198 14 scole 12 12 10 4 16 16 10 6 20 4
    6 18 18 18 12 12 0 4 198 16 ceg 14 8 10 8 10 12 14 16 12 4
    10 18 10 14 12 12 2 10 196 17 mairsz 12 12 10 16 6 18 12 6 18 2
    6 18 6 12 16 12 2 10 194 18 Mark 10 12 10 6 18 10 14 6 10 4
    8 18 18 8 12 12 2 12 190 18 Sreekumar A 12 8 12 4 10 16 14 6 12 2
    6 18 20 18 14 10 2 6 190 20 Shaun 0 0 10 12 6 18 10 16 12 2
    20 18 14 24 6 10 4 4 186 21 Ar 6 10 6 6 14 18 12 14 14 6
    16 6 10 10 8 18 0 4 178 22 Carl Keehn 6 8 10 0 6 12 12 6 20 0
    14 6 20 18 14 10 0 6 168 23 User8270 10 4 10 6 14 12 10 4 10 8
    10 6 14 12 10 4 4 6 154 24 D Munz 10 14 6 12 4 12 6 6 4 8
    8 6 2 12 12 6 2 0 130 25 Geoff 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
    0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

    DUPLICATOR RANKER1 RANKER2 RESULTS
    1. BAH HAM VER HAM NOR
    HAM VER LEC HAM RIC VET HAM RIC VET NOR VER RUS
    8 8 15/20 0 0 18/20 0 0 18/20
    2. EMI NOR VER VER PIA
    NOR VER RUS VER STR HUL VER STR HUL PIA NOR RUS
    12 20 17/20 0 0 19/20 0 0 19/20
    3. POR PIA VER VER VER
    PIA NOR RUS VER OCO STR VER OCO STR VER NOR PIA
    10 30 17/20 2 2 19/20 2 2 19/20
    4. SPA VER VER VER PIA
    VER NOR PIA VER OCO STR VER OCO STR PIA RUS NOR
    6 36 18/20 0 2 19/20 0 2 19/20
    5. MON PIA VER VER VER
    PIA RUS NOR VER HAM OCO VER HAM OCO PIA VER LEC
    10 46 17/20 8 10 19/20 8 10 19/20

    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Mark Jackson@mjackson@alumni.caltech.edu to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Fri Oct 10 07:09:35 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.autos.sport.f1

    On 10/9/2025 9:06 PM, a425couple wrote:
    I think I understand the scoring if the 4 picks are perfectly
    correct, But I am really murky on the 'near miss' points.

    If my notes are correct:

    Pole: 2

    Predicted: 1 2 3
    Actual:
    1 10 6 2
    2 6 8 4
    3 2 4 6
    --
    Mark Jackson - https://mark-jackson.online/
    Against the assault of laughter nothing can stand.
    - Mark Twain
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Mark@mpconmy@gmail.com to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Wed Oct 15 10:45:29 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.autos.sport.f1

    a425couple <a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On 10/9/25 03:16, Mark wrote:
    Ahhh, errrrr

    Let me know about the inevitable mistakes!
    Efye >
    Mark

    I hate to disrupt a perfect situation,,,, ahhh, err,
    But bearing in mind
    #1 https://replica.seattletimes.com/html5/reader/production/default.aspx?pubname=&pubid=84d463e0-c035-4c49-902d-95c722bfe073

    I have no idea what this is about. Am I missing something?

    and #2, I think I understand the scoring if the 4 picks are perfectly correct, But I am really murky on the 'near miss' points.

    I did something unusual for me and looked back at prior numbers,,,,

    But, still, it seems that if it is correct, that I had 202 points
    after Azer, and if I scored 8 at Sing, then the listed
    new total of 208 seems inconsistent.

    Or, is that the whole purpose of "Super secret double blind probation"?

    Right...I'm back from my holidays so here goes.

    I didn't notice anything, but it's all (pretty much) automated so unless someone challenges it, I don't go back and recompute.

    I have _no_ idea what went wrong here. I've just rerun the script and
    there are a number of numbers that didn't match up including yours. Is
    this any better?

    The top 6 are currently:

    1 Hornplayer9599 220
    2 durian 214
    2 Mark Jackson 214
    4 JohnM 212
    5 a425couple 210
    5 Sir Tim 210

    The people who scored points are:

    12 EB5AGV 14
    1 Hornplayer9599 12
    19 Mark 12
    10 Martin Harran 12
    15 ceg 10
    13 Hugh 10
    18 mairsz 10
    7 Phil Carmody 10
    5 a425couple 8
    2 durian 8
    7 Eric 8
    4 JohnM 8
    13 Yazoo 8
    22 Carl Keehn 6
    10 Darryl Johnson 6
    2 Mark Jackson 6
    5 Sir Tim 6
    17 Sreekumar A 6
    23 User8270 6
    9 Alan Baker 4
    21 Ar 4
    15 scole 4
    20 Shaun 4

    Let me know about the inevitable mistakes!
    ;-)

    Mark

    The overall table looks like:

    1 Mark 10 12 10 6 18 10 14 6 10 4
    8 18 18 8 12 12 2 12 190
    2 a425couple 16 12 12 8 6 18 12 8 20 4
    12 12 18 18 12 10 4 8 210
    3 Martin Harran 14 12 12 6 10 14 12 4 10 4
    6 18 20 12 14 12 12 12 204
    4 Darryl Johnson 10 8 12 6 18 14 16 8 14 6
    12 8 12 10 12 20 12 6 204
    5 Geoff 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
    0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
    6 Eric 8 18 10 10 16 12 10 4 14 8
    10 18 24 18 6 10 4 8 208
    7 Yazoo 12 20 10 12 6 18 10 6 20 4
    4 12 18 12 14 12 2 8 200
    8 User8270 10 4 10 6 14 12 10 4 10 8
    10 6 14 12 10 4 4 6 154
    9 Carl Keehn 6 8 10 0 6 12 12 6 20 0
    14 6 20 18 14 10 0 6 168
    10 Sir Tim 16 12 10 8 10 18 12 8 12 0
    6 18 26 12 16 10 10 6 210
    11 scole 12 12 10 4 16 16 10 6 20 4
    6 18 18 18 12 12 0 4 198
    12 Hornplayer9599 10 8 14 18 10 20 18 6 20 4
    8 18 18 8 10 12 6 12 220
    13 Ar 6 10 8 6 14 18 12 14 14 6
    16 6 10 10 8 18 0 4 180
    14 Hugh 12 6 10 12 10 18 14 6 12 2
    6 18 18 18 14 12 2 10 200
    15 D Munz 10 14 16 12 4 12 6 6 4 8
    8 6 2 12 12 6 2 0 140
    16 Shaun 0 0 10 12 6 18 10 16 12 2
    20 18 14 24 6 10 4 4 186
    17 Mark Jackson 18 12 10 12 10 24 10 8 18 2
    8 12 18 12 12 10 12 6 214
    18 JohnM 16 12 12 8 10 18 12 8 20 4
    8 18 18 12 14 12 2 8 212
    19 Phil Carmody 14 12 12 6 6 18 12 6 16 2
    10 18 24 12 12 12 6 10 208
    20 mairsz 12 12 10 16 6 18 12 6 18 2
    6 18 6 12 16 12 2 10 194
    21 Sreekumar A 12 8 18 4 10 16 14 6 12 2
    6 18 20 18 14 10 2 6 196
    22 EB5AGV 20 12 10 4 10 14 14 6 12 2
    6 18 14 24 10 10 2 14 202
    23 durian 20 8 12 8 10 18 12 8 20 4
    6 18 18 12 14 10 8 8 214
    24 Alan Baker 10 20 12 4 6 18 12 10 20 2
    20 18 10 18 10 12 0 4 206
    25 ceg 14 8 12 8 10 12 14 16 12 4
    10 18 10 14 12 12 2 10 198

    Ordered by points:

    1 Hornplayer9599 10 8 14 18 10 20 18 6 20 4
    8 18 18 8 10 12 6 12 220
    2 durian 20 8 12 8 10 18 12 8 20 4
    6 18 18 12 14 10 8 8 214
    2 Mark Jackson 18 12 10 12 10 24 10 8 18 2
    8 12 18 12 12 10 12 6 214
    4 JohnM 16 12 12 8 10 18 12 8 20 4
    8 18 18 12 14 12 2 8 212
    5 a425couple 16 12 12 8 6 18 12 8 20 4
    12 12 18 18 12 10 4 8 210
    5 Sir Tim 16 12 10 8 10 18 12 8 12 0
    6 18 26 12 16 10 10 6 210
    7 Eric 8 18 10 10 16 12 10 4 14 8
    10 18 24 18 6 10 4 8 208
    7 Phil Carmody 14 12 12 6 6 18 12 6 16 2
    10 18 24 12 12 12 6 10 208
    9 Alan Baker 10 20 12 4 6 18 12 10 20 2
    20 18 10 18 10 12 0 4 206
    10 Darryl Johnson 10 8 12 6 18 14 16 8 14 6
    12 8 12 10 12 20 12 6 204
    10 Martin Harran 14 12 12 6 10 14 12 4 10 4
    6 18 20 12 14 12 12 12 204
    12 EB5AGV 20 12 10 4 10 14 14 6 12 2
    6 18 14 24 10 10 2 14 202
    13 Hugh 12 6 10 12 10 18 14 6 12 2
    6 18 18 18 14 12 2 10 200
    13 Yazoo 12 20 10 12 6 18 10 6 20 4
    4 12 18 12 14 12 2 8 200
    15 ceg 14 8 12 8 10 12 14 16 12 4
    10 18 10 14 12 12 2 10 198
    15 scole 12 12 10 4 16 16 10 6 20 4
    6 18 18 18 12 12 0 4 198
    17 Sreekumar A 12 8 18 4 10 16 14 6 12 2
    6 18 20 18 14 10 2 6 196
    18 mairsz 12 12 10 16 6 18 12 6 18 2
    6 18 6 12 16 12 2 10 194
    19 Mark 10 12 10 6 18 10 14 6 10 4
    8 18 18 8 12 12 2 12 190
    20 Shaun 0 0 10 12 6 18 10 16 12 2
    20 18 14 24 6 10 4 4 186
    21 Ar 6 10 8 6 14 18 12 14 14 6
    16 6 10 10 8 18 0 4 180
    22 Carl Keehn 6 8 10 0 6 12 12 6 20 0
    14 6 20 18 14 10 0 6 168
    23 User8270 10 4 10 6 14 12 10 4 10 8
    10 6 14 12 10 4 4 6 154
    24 D Munz 10 14 16 12 4 12 6 6 4 8
    8 6 2 12 12 6 2 0 140
    25 Geoff 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
    0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

    DUPLICATOR RANKER1 RANKER2 RESULTS
    1. BAH HAM VER HAM NOR
    HAM VER LEC HAM RIC VET HAM RIC VET NOR VER RUS
    8 8 15/20 0 0 18/20 0 0 18/20
    2. EMI NOR VER VER PIA
    NOR VER RUS VER STR HUL VER STR HUL PIA NOR RUS
    12 20 17/20 0 0 19/20 0 0 19/20
    3. POR PIA VER VER VER
    PIA NOR RUS VER OCO STR VER OCO STR VER NOR PIA
    10 30 17/20 2 2 19/20 2 2 19/20
    4. SPA VER VER VER PIA
    VER NOR PIA VER OCO STR VER OCO STR PIA RUS NOR
    6 36 18/20 0 2 19/20 0 2 19/20
    5. MON PIA VER VER VER
    PIA RUS NOR VER HAM OCO VER HAM OCO PIA VER LEC
    10 46 17/20 8 10 19/20 8 10 19/20
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From a425couple@a425couple@hotmail.com to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Wed Oct 15 08:26:26 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.autos.sport.f1

    On 10/15/25 03:45, Mark wrote:
    a425couple <a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On 10/9/25 03:16, Mark wrote:
    Ahhh, errrrr

    Let me know about the inevitable mistakes!
    Efye >
    Mark

    I hate to disrupt a perfect situation,,,, ahhh, err,
    But bearing in mind
    #1
    https://replica.seattletimes.com/html5/reader/production/default.aspx?pubname=&pubid=84d463e0-c035-4c49-902d-95c722bfe073

    I have no idea what this is about. Am I missing something?

    and #2, I think I understand the scoring if the 4 picks are perfectly
    correct, But I am really murky on the 'near miss' points.

    I did something unusual for me and looked back at prior numbers,,,,

    But, still, it seems that if it is correct, that I had 202 points
    after Azer, and if I scored 8 at Sing, then the listed
    new total of 208 seems inconsistent.

    Or, is that the whole purpose of "Super secret double blind probation"?

    Right...I'm back from my holidays so here goes.

    I didn't notice anything, but it's all (pretty much) automated so unless someone challenges it, I don't go back and recompute.

    I have _no_ idea what went wrong here. I've just rerun the script and
    there are a number of numbers that didn't match up including yours. Is
    this any better?

    Yes. "Some math I saw,,, did not math!"
    (totals did not add up correctly)
    (202 plus 8 does not equal 208!)
    So yes, this is better.

    I hope you had a great vacation.
    I truly hope my post did not add stress or distraction.

    Thank you very much for your work on this that helps
    add a considerable amount of interest for us.
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Mark@mpconmy@gmail.com to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Wed Oct 15 16:51:47 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.autos.sport.f1

    a425couple <a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On 10/15/25 03:45, Mark wrote:
    a425couple <a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On 10/9/25 03:16, Mark wrote:
    Ahhh, errrrr

    Let me know about the inevitable mistakes!
    Efye >
    Mark

    I hate to disrupt a perfect situation,,,, ahhh, err,
    But bearing in mind
    #1
    https://replica.seattletimes.com/html5/reader/production/default.aspx?pubname=&pubid=84d463e0-c035-4c49-902d-95c722bfe073

    I have no idea what this is about. Am I missing something?

    and #2, I think I understand the scoring if the 4 picks are perfectly
    correct, But I am really murky on the 'near miss' points.

    I did something unusual for me and looked back at prior numbers,,,,

    But, still, it seems that if it is correct, that I had 202 points
    after Azer, and if I scored 8 at Sing, then the listed
    new total of 208 seems inconsistent.

    Or, is that the whole purpose of "Super secret double blind probation"?

    Right...I'm back from my holidays so here goes.

    I didn't notice anything, but it's all (pretty much) automated so unless
    someone challenges it, I don't go back and recompute.

    I have _no_ idea what went wrong here. I've just rerun the script and
    there are a number of numbers that didn't match up including yours. Is
    this any better?

    Yes. "Some math I saw,,, did not math!"
    (totals did not add up correctly)
    (202 plus 8 does not equal 208!)
    So yes, this is better.

    I can't tell you _what_ happened - or why it happened - but I can tell
    you what the impact was.

    Something affected the results for race 3. It's like the system got
    confused about the results for just that one race. I could probably work
    out which results were different...but I can't see an issue with the
    table, and the results page is autogenerated from a scrape of the web.

    This is where it gets *weird*. It doesn't just affect you, and it has
    happened before to those affected just for race 3. No-one has noticed. Appended, though, are your results since race 3...and you can see race 3 sometimes loses 2 points for no obvious reason. Everything else is
    right.

    This is going to irritate me until I can explain it...

    I hope you had a great vacation.
    I truly hope my post did not add stress or distraction.

    Thank you very much for your work on this that helps
    add a considerable amount of interest for us.

    Not a problem...other than finding a bug!

    3 a425couple 16 12 12
    40
    4 a425couple 16 12 10 8
    46
    5 a425couple 16 12 12 8 6
    54
    6 a425couple 16 12 10 8 6 18
    70
    7 a425couple 16 12 12 8 6 18 12
    84
    8 a425couple 16 12 10 8 6 18 12 8
    90
    9 a425couple 16 12 10 8 6 18 12 8 20
    110
    10 a425couple 16 12 12 8 6 18 12 8 20 4
    116
    11 a425couple 16 12 12 8 6 18 12 8 20 4
    12 128
    12 a425couple 16 12 12 8 6 18 12 8 20 4
    12 12 140
    13 a425couple 16 12 12 8 6 18 12 8 20 4
    12 12 18 158
    14 a425couple 16 12 10 8 6 18 12 8 20 4
    12 12 18 18 174
    15 a425couple 16 12 12 8 6 18 12 8 20 4
    12 12 18 18 12 188
    16 a425couple 16 12 12 8 6 18 12 8 20 4
    12 12 18 18 12 10 198
    17 a425couple 16 12 12 8 6 18 12 8 20 4
    12 12 18 18 12 10 4 202
    18 a425couple 16 12 10 8 6 18 12 8 20 4
    12 12 18 18 12 10 4 8 208
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  • From a425couple@a425couple@hotmail.com to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Thu Oct 16 08:05:51 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.autos.sport.f1

    On 10/15/25 09:51, Mark wrote:
    a425couple <a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On 10/15/25 03:45, Mark wrote:
    a425couple <a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On 10/9/25 03:16, Mark wrote:
    Ahhh, errrrr

    Let me know about the inevitable mistakes!
    Efye >
    Mark

    I hate to disrupt a perfect situation,,,, ahhh, err,
    But bearing in mind
    #1
    https://replica.seattletimes.com/html5/reader/production/default.aspx?pubname=&pubid=84d463e0-c035-4c49-902d-95c722bfe073

    I have no idea what this is about. Am I missing something?

    and #2, I think I understand the scoring if the 4 picks are perfectly >>>> correct, But I am really murky on the 'near miss' points.

    I did something unusual for me and looked back at prior numbers,,,,

    But, still, it seems that if it is correct, that I had 202 points
    after Azer, and if I scored 8 at Sing, then the listed
    new total of 208 seems inconsistent.

    Or, is that the whole purpose of "Super secret double blind probation"? >>>
    Right...I'm back from my holidays so here goes.

    I didn't notice anything, but it's all (pretty much) automated so unless >>> someone challenges it, I don't go back and recompute.

    I have _no_ idea what went wrong here. I've just rerun the script and
    there are a number of numbers that didn't match up including yours. Is
    this any better?

    Yes. "Some math I saw,,, did not math!"
    (totals did not add up correctly)
    (202 plus 8 does not equal 208!)
    So yes, this is better.

    I can't tell you _what_ happened - or why it happened - but I can tell
    you what the impact was.

    Something affected the results for race 3. It's like the system got
    confused about the results for just that one race. I could probably work
    out which results were different...but I can't see an issue with the
    table, and the results page is autogenerated from a scrape of the web.

    This is where it gets *weird*. It doesn't just affect you, and it has happened before to those affected just for race 3. No-one has noticed. Appended, though, are your results since race 3...and you can see race 3 sometimes loses 2 points for no obvious reason. Everything else is
    right.

    This is going to irritate me until I can explain it...

    I hope you had a great vacation.
    I truly hope my post did not add stress or distraction.

    Thank you very much for your work on this that helps
    add a considerable amount of interest for us.

    Not a problem...other than finding a bug!


    Bummer!
    So, it kind'a looks like a ghost mystery computer bug has the
    prankster alter-ego of Gerhard Berger and will randomly
    reduce the count by 2, pause a couple of beats, then re-add
    those 2 back in, pause a bit longer, then subtract 2 again.
    Yeah, quite the bug.
    Good luck.
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  • From Mark@mpconmy@gmail.com to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Mon Oct 20 10:23:19 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.autos.sport.f1


    The top 5 are currently:

    1 durian 234
    2 Hornplayer9599 230
    3 JohnM 222
    3 Mark Jackson 222
    3 Phil Carmody 222

    The people who scored points are:

    9 ceg 20
    1 durian 20
    9 Martin Harran 14
    3 Phil Carmody 14
    9 Alan Baker 12
    20 Ar 12
    24 D Munz 12
    12 Darryl Johnson 12
    6 Eric 12
    22 User8270 12
    6 a425couple 10
    2 Hornplayer9599 10
    3 JohnM 10
    6 Sir Tim 10
    15 Sreekumar A 10
    13 Yazoo 10
    13 EB5AGV 8
    17 mairsz 8
    18 Mark 8
    3 Mark Jackson 8
    15 Hugh 6
    20 Shaun 6
    19 scole 4
    22 Carl Keehn 2

    Let me know about the inevitable mistakes!
    ;-)

    Mark

    The overall table looks like:

    1 Mark 10 12 10 6 18 10 14 6 10 4
    8 18 18 8 12 12 2 12 8 198
    2 a425couple 16 12 12 8 6 18 12 8 20 4
    12 12 18 18 12 10 4 8 10 220
    3 Martin Harran 14 12 12 6 10 14 12 4 10 4
    6 18 20 12 14 12 12 12 14 218
    4 Darryl Johnson 10 8 12 6 18 14 16 8 10 6
    12 8 12 10 12 20 12 6 12 212
    5 Geoff 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
    0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
    6 Eric 8 18 10 10 16 12 10 4 14 8
    10 18 24 18 6 10 4 8 12 220
    7 Yazoo 12 20 10 12 6 18 10 6 20 4
    4 12 18 12 14 12 2 8 10 210
    8 User8270 10 4 10 6 14 12 10 4 10 8
    10 6 14 12 10 4 4 6 12 166
    9 Carl Keehn 6 8 10 0 6 12 12 6 16 0
    14 6 20 18 14 10 0 6 2 166
    10 Sir Tim 16 12 10 8 10 18 12 8 12 0
    6 18 26 12 16 10 10 6 10 220
    11 scole 12 12 10 4 16 16 10 6 14 4
    6 18 18 18 12 12 0 4 4 196
    12 Hornplayer9599 10 8 14 18 10 20 18 6 20 4
    8 18 18 8 10 12 6 12 10 230
    13 Ar 6 10 8 6 14 18 12 14 14 6
    16 6 10 10 8 18 0 4 12 192
    14 Hugh 12 6 10 12 10 18 14 6 12 2
    6 18 18 18 14 12 2 10 6 206
    15 D Munz 10 14 16 12 4 12 6 6 0 8
    8 6 2 12 12 6 2 0 12 148
    16 Shaun 0 0 10 12 6 18 10 16 12 2
    20 18 14 24 6 10 4 4 6 192
    17 Mark Jackson 18 12 10 12 10 24 10 8 18 2
    8 12 18 12 12 10 12 6 8 222
    18 JohnM 16 12 12 8 10 18 12 8 20 4
    8 18 18 12 14 12 2 8 10 222
    19 Phil Carmody 14 12 12 6 6 18 12 6 16 2
    10 18 24 12 12 12 6 10 14 222
    20 mairsz 12 12 10 16 6 18 12 6 18 2
    6 18 6 12 16 12 2 10 8 202
    21 Sreekumar A 12 8 18 4 10 16 14 6 12 2
    6 18 20 18 14 10 2 6 10 206
    22 EB5AGV 20 12 10 4 10 14 14 6 12 2
    6 18 14 24 10 10 2 14 8 210
    23 durian 20 8 12 8 10 18 12 8 20 4
    6 18 18 12 14 10 8 8 20 234
    24 Alan Baker 10 20 12 4 6 18 12 10 20 2
    20 18 10 18 10 12 0 4 12 218
    25 ceg 14 8 12 8 10 12 14 16 12 4
    10 18 10 14 12 12 2 10 20 218

    Ordered by points:

    1 durian 20 8 12 8 10 18 12 8 20 4
    6 18 18 12 14 10 8 8 20 234
    2 Hornplayer9599 10 8 14 18 10 20 18 6 20 4
    8 18 18 8 10 12 6 12 10 230
    3 JohnM 16 12 12 8 10 18 12 8 20 4
    8 18 18 12 14 12 2 8 10 222
    3 Mark Jackson 18 12 10 12 10 24 10 8 18 2
    8 12 18 12 12 10 12 6 8 222
    3 Phil Carmody 14 12 12 6 6 18 12 6 16 2
    10 18 24 12 12 12 6 10 14 222
    6 a425couple 16 12 12 8 6 18 12 8 20 4
    12 12 18 18 12 10 4 8 10 220
    6 Eric 8 18 10 10 16 12 10 4 14 8
    10 18 24 18 6 10 4 8 12 220
    6 Sir Tim 16 12 10 8 10 18 12 8 12 0
    6 18 26 12 16 10 10 6 10 220
    9 Alan Baker 10 20 12 4 6 18 12 10 20 2
    20 18 10 18 10 12 0 4 12 218
    9 ceg 14 8 12 8 10 12 14 16 12 4
    10 18 10 14 12 12 2 10 20 218
    9 Martin Harran 14 12 12 6 10 14 12 4 10 4
    6 18 20 12 14 12 12 12 14 218
    12 Darryl Johnson 10 8 12 6 18 14 16 8 10 6
    12 8 12 10 12 20 12 6 12 212
    13 EB5AGV 20 12 10 4 10 14 14 6 12 2
    6 18 14 24 10 10 2 14 8 210
    13 Yazoo 12 20 10 12 6 18 10 6 20 4
    4 12 18 12 14 12 2 8 10 210
    15 Hugh 12 6 10 12 10 18 14 6 12 2
    6 18 18 18 14 12 2 10 6 206
    15 Sreekumar A 12 8 18 4 10 16 14 6 12 2
    6 18 20 18 14 10 2 6 10 206
    17 mairsz 12 12 10 16 6 18 12 6 18 2
    6 18 6 12 16 12 2 10 8 202
    18 Mark 10 12 10 6 18 10 14 6 10 4
    8 18 18 8 12 12 2 12 8 198
    19 scole 12 12 10 4 16 16 10 6 14 4
    6 18 18 18 12 12 0 4 4 196
    20 Ar 6 10 8 6 14 18 12 14 14 6
    16 6 10 10 8 18 0 4 12 192
    20 Shaun 0 0 10 12 6 18 10 16 12 2
    20 18 14 24 6 10 4 4 6 192
    22 Carl Keehn 6 8 10 0 6 12 12 6 16 0
    14 6 20 18 14 10 0 6 2 166
    22 User8270 10 4 10 6 14 12 10 4 10 8
    10 6 14 12 10 4 4 6 12 166
    24 D Munz 10 14 16 12 4 12 6 6 0 8
    8 6 2 12 12 6 2 0 12 148
    25 Geoff 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
    0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

    DUPLICATOR RANKER1 RANKER2 RESULTS
    1. BAH HAM VER HAM NOR
    HAM VER LEC HAM RIC VET HAM RIC VET NOR VER RUS
    8 8 15/20 0 0 18/20 0 0 18/20
    2. EMI NOR VER VER PIA
    NOR VER RUS VER STR HUL VER STR HUL PIA NOR RUS
    12 20 17/20 0 0 19/20 0 0 19/20
    3. POR PIA VER VER VER
    PIA NOR RUS VER OCO STR VER OCO STR VER NOR PIA
    10 30 17/20 2 2 19/20 2 2 19/20
    4. SPA VER VER VER PIA
    VER NOR PIA VER OCO STR VER OCO STR PIA RUS NOR
    6 36 18/20 0 2 19/20 0 2 19/20
    5. MON PIA VER VER VER
    PIA RUS NOR VER HAM OCO VER HAM OCO PIA VER LEC
    10 46 17/20 8 10 19/20 8 10 19/20
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Phil Carmody@pc+usenet@asdf.org to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Fri Oct 24 09:14:45 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.autos.sport.f1

    Mark <mpconmy@gmail.com> writes:

    The top 5 are currently:

    1 durian 234
    2 Hornplayer9599 230
    3 JohnM 222
    3 Mark Jackson 222
    3 Phil Carmody 222

    WAAAAT!!!!?!?!

    Something must have gone wrong.

    Phil
    --
    We are no longer hunters and nomads. No longer awed and frightened, as we have gained some understanding of the world in which we live. As such, we can cast aside childish remnants from the dawn of our civilization.
    -- NotSanguine on SoylentNews, after Eugen Weber in /The Western Tradition/
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  • From Mark@mpconmy@gmail.com to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Fri Oct 24 09:11:21 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.autos.sport.f1

    Phil Carmody <pc+usenet@asdf.org> wrote:
    Mark <mpconmy@gmail.com> writes:

    The top 5 are currently:

    1 durian 234
    2 Hornplayer9599 230
    3 JohnM 222
    3 Mark Jackson 222
    3 Phil Carmody 222

    WAAAAT!!!!?!?!

    Something must have gone wrong.

    What's wrong now? It's very close at the top and many people scored less
    than your 10...and there was only a few points separating the top 10.
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