• [OT] Trump's next job

    From Rhino@no_offline_contact@example.com to rec.arts.tv on Sat Feb 28 12:18:22 2026
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    I've been looking at Tousi TV (on Youtube) this morning to learn about developments in the Middle East now that the attack on Iran has finally
    begun. (I've found Tousi TV to be the most useful source of information;
    they seem to have a lot of sources within the country and seem to know
    what is true or false sooner than others and in more detail.)

    One thing I've learned today is that Trump is *VERY* popular there. The
    people of Iran are literally dancing in the streets and cheering for
    Trump, despite the danger from the falling bombs and the regime's thugs.
    They REALLY want the Islamic regime GONE.

    I think if Trump wants to be President again after his current term
    ends, the soon-to-be-liberated Iranians might well choose him as THEIR President.

    Of course the war has just started and we don't know how long it will
    last. I think we're all hoping it will be over very quickly with a
    minimum of casualties but the Iranians are bombing civilians in
    neighbouring countries to put pressure on their leaders to demand an end
    to the war, as well as US bases in the area and Israel so this is NOT
    likel to be an (almost) bloodless collapse like the USSR.

    Why can't horrific regimes like the Iranian one, despised by their own
    people and pretty much everyone else, just give it up and go gracefully
    when their time is up?
    --
    Rhino

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  • From shawn@nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com to rec.arts.tv on Sat Feb 28 12:40:15 2026
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    On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 12:18:22 -0500, Rhino
    <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    I've been looking at Tousi TV (on Youtube) this morning to learn about >developments in the Middle East now that the attack on Iran has finally >begun. (I've found Tousi TV to be the most useful source of information; >they seem to have a lot of sources within the country and seem to know
    what is true or false sooner than others and in more detail.)

    One thing I've learned today is that Trump is *VERY* popular there. The >people of Iran are literally dancing in the streets and cheering for
    Trump, despite the danger from the falling bombs and the regime's thugs. >They REALLY want the Islamic regime GONE.

    I think if Trump wants to be President again after his current term
    ends, the soon-to-be-liberated Iranians might well choose him as THEIR >President.

    Of course the war has just started and we don't know how long it will
    last. I think we're all hoping it will be over very quickly with a
    minimum of casualties but the Iranians are bombing civilians in
    neighbouring countries to put pressure on their leaders to demand an end
    to the war, as well as US bases in the area and Israel so this is NOT
    likel to be an (almost) bloodless collapse like the USSR.

    One would think it would be over already if we truly already took out
    their leadership, but who knows what the lower levels of Iranian
    leadership think.

    Why can't horrific regimes like the Iranian one, despised by their own >people and pretty much everyone else, just give it up and go gracefully
    when their time is up?

    For the simple reason that they have a legitimate fear of losing their
    lives if they give up power. I can't blame them for going scorched
    earth given the alternative is death. It's an outcome of their prior
    choices on how they treated their citizens.
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  • From BTR1701@atropos@mac.com to rec.arts.tv on Sat Feb 28 18:25:15 2026
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    On Feb 28, 2026 at 9:18:22 AM PST, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    I've been looking at Tousi TV (on Youtube) this morning to learn about developments in the Middle East now that the attack on Iran has finally begun. (I've found Tousi TV to be the most useful source of information; they seem to have a lot of sources within the country and seem to know
    what is true or false sooner than others and in more detail.)

    One thing I've learned today is that Trump is *VERY* popular there. The people of Iran are literally dancing in the streets and cheering for
    Trump, despite the danger from the falling bombs and the regime's thugs. They REALLY want the Islamic regime GONE.

    I think if Trump wants to be President again after his current term
    ends, the soon-to-be-liberated Iranians might well choose him as THEIR President.

    Of course the war has just started and we don't know how long it will
    last. I think we're all hoping it will be over very quickly with a
    minimum of casualties but the Iranians are bombing civilians in
    neighbouring countries to put pressure on their leaders to demand an end
    to the war

    Seems like that would just be more likely to push those countries to join the U.S. in attacking Iran.


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  • From Rhino@no_offline_contact@example.com to rec.arts.tv on Sat Feb 28 14:11:32 2026
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    On 2026-02-28 12:40 p.m., shawn wrote:
    On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 12:18:22 -0500, Rhino
    <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    I've been looking at Tousi TV (on Youtube) this morning to learn about
    developments in the Middle East now that the attack on Iran has finally
    begun. (I've found Tousi TV to be the most useful source of information;
    they seem to have a lot of sources within the country and seem to know
    what is true or false sooner than others and in more detail.)

    One thing I've learned today is that Trump is *VERY* popular there. The
    people of Iran are literally dancing in the streets and cheering for
    Trump, despite the danger from the falling bombs and the regime's thugs.
    They REALLY want the Islamic regime GONE.

    I think if Trump wants to be President again after his current term
    ends, the soon-to-be-liberated Iranians might well choose him as THEIR
    President.

    Of course the war has just started and we don't know how long it will
    last. I think we're all hoping it will be over very quickly with a
    minimum of casualties but the Iranians are bombing civilians in
    neighbouring countries to put pressure on their leaders to demand an end
    to the war, as well as US bases in the area and Israel so this is NOT
    likel to be an (almost) bloodless collapse like the USSR.

    One would think it would be over already if we truly already took out
    their leadership, but who knows what the lower levels of Iranian
    leadership think.

    It's hard to get all the leaders, especially when they are scattered all
    over the place in secret bunkers. Every time you kill one of them, the Ayatollah or his top advisers find a replacement. Apparently, there are
    enough fanatics in the organization that they always find someone to
    take the job. (I wonder if they even have the option of saying no.) But
    given their system, it seems like the only realistic way to go.

    Why can't horrific regimes like the Iranian one, despised by their own
    people and pretty much everyone else, just give it up and go gracefully
    when their time is up?

    For the simple reason that they have a legitimate fear of losing their
    lives if they give up power. I can't blame them for going scorched
    earth given the alternative is death. It's an outcome of their prior
    choices on how they treated their citizens.

    I think the deal that Trump was offering them was some kind of exile so
    they'd at least have their lives, if not all the money they'd stolen
    from their people. If I'm right, they apparently decided that wasn't
    good enough. Too bad, so sad: if their greed is that overwhelming, they deserve what's coming.

    Trump's address this morning had one thing that concerned me: he seemed
    to be offering an unconditional total amnesty for all those people in
    the IRGC, military and police that stop supporting the regime. I'm not
    sure exactly how that is supposed to work but I think a lot of Iranians
    would like to get their hands on the bastards that murdered their
    families and I can't blame them. I hope that they would deal with those
    people with fair trials and prison but I realize they might be too angry
    and some might dispense some instant "street justice". A full amnesty is
    going to upset a lot of Iranians if it deprives them of the ability to
    deal with the murderers.
    --
    Rhino
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  • From Rhino@no_offline_contact@example.com to rec.arts.tv on Sat Feb 28 14:17:24 2026
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    On 2026-02-28 1:25 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:
    On Feb 28, 2026 at 9:18:22 AM PST, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    I've been looking at Tousi TV (on Youtube) this morning to learn about
    developments in the Middle East now that the attack on Iran has finally
    begun. (I've found Tousi TV to be the most useful source of information;
    they seem to have a lot of sources within the country and seem to know
    what is true or false sooner than others and in more detail.)

    One thing I've learned today is that Trump is *VERY* popular there. The
    people of Iran are literally dancing in the streets and cheering for
    Trump, despite the danger from the falling bombs and the regime's thugs.
    They REALLY want the Islamic regime GONE.

    I think if Trump wants to be President again after his current term
    ends, the soon-to-be-liberated Iranians might well choose him as THEIR
    President.

    Of course the war has just started and we don't know how long it will
    last. I think we're all hoping it will be over very quickly with a
    minimum of casualties but the Iranians are bombing civilians in
    neighbouring countries to put pressure on their leaders to demand an end
    to the war

    Seems like that would just be more likely to push those countries to join the U.S. in attacking Iran.


    That's my thinking too. The Iranians historically don't like the Arabs
    and I assume the reverse is true too. If I was a leader in Kuwait or
    Jordan or whatever and they started hitting my civilians, I'd be
    inclined to scramble my own military and co-ordinate with the US and
    Israel to see how I could help their efforts.

    But I don't pretend to know how Arab leaders think. I suppose they have
    to consider the sentiments of their own citizens and if they think the
    average Achmed on the street would be aghast at an attack on Iran, maybe they'd be leery of doing it. Then again, none of those countries are democracies so it's not like they have to worry about being voted out of office.
    --
    Rhino
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  • From moviePig@nobody@nowhere.com to rec.arts.tv on Sat Feb 28 14:33:06 2026
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    On 2/28/2026 2:11 PM, Rhino wrote:
    On 2026-02-28 12:40 p.m., shawn wrote:
    On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 12:18:22 -0500, Rhino
    <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    I've been looking at Tousi TV (on Youtube) this morning to learn about
    developments in the Middle East now that the attack on Iran has finally
    begun. (I've found Tousi TV to be the most useful source of information; >>> they seem to have a lot of sources within the country and seem to know
    what is true or false sooner than others and in more detail.)

    One thing I've learned today is that Trump is *VERY* popular there. The
    people of Iran are literally dancing in the streets and cheering for
    Trump, despite the danger from the falling bombs and the regime's thugs. >>> They REALLY want the Islamic regime GONE.

    I think if Trump wants to be President again after his current term
    ends, the soon-to-be-liberated Iranians might well choose him as THEIR
    President.

    Of course the war has just started and we don't know how long it will
    last. I think we're all hoping it will be over very quickly with a
    minimum of casualties but the Iranians are bombing civilians in
    neighbouring countries to put pressure on their leaders to demand an end >>> to the war, as well as US bases in the area and Israel so this is NOT
    likel to be an (almost) bloodless collapse like the USSR.

    One would think it would be over already if we truly already took out
    their leadership, but who knows what the lower levels of Iranian
    leadership think.

    It's hard to get all the leaders, especially when they are scattered all over the place in secret bunkers. Every time you kill one of them, the Ayatollah or his top advisers find a replacement. Apparently, there are enough fanatics in the organization that they always find someone to
    take the job. (I wonder if they even have the option of saying no.) But given their system, it seems like the only realistic way to go.

    Why can't horrific regimes like the Iranian one, despised by their own
    people and pretty much everyone else, just give it up and go gracefully
    when their time is up?

    For the simple reason that they have a legitimate fear of losing their
    lives if they give up power. I can't blame them for going scorched
    earth given the alternative is death. It's an outcome of their prior
    choices on how they treated their citizens.

    I think the deal that Trump was offering them was some kind of exile so they'd at least have their lives, if not all the money they'd stolen
    from their people. If I'm right, they apparently decided that wasn't
    good enough. Too bad, so sad: if their greed is that overwhelming, they deserve what's coming.

    Trump's address this morning had one thing that concerned me: he seemed
    to be offering an unconditional total amnesty for all those people in
    the IRGC, military and police that stop supporting the regime. I'm not
    sure exactly how that is supposed to work but I think a lot of Iranians would like to get their hands on the bastards that murdered their
    families and I can't blame them. I hope that they would deal with those people with fair trials and prison but I realize they might be too angry
    and some might dispense some instant "street justice". A full amnesty is going to upset a lot of Iranians if it deprives them of the ability to
    deal with the murderers.

    'Street justice' winks at 'amnesty' through a rifle scope.


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  • From mummycullen@mummycullen@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (MummyChunk) to rec.arts.tv on Sat Feb 28 12:33:54 2026
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    Rhino wrote:
    I've been looking at Tousi TV (on Youtube) this morning to learn about developments in the Middle East now that the attack on Iran has finally begun. (I've found Tousi TV to be the most useful source of information;
    they seem to have a lot of sources within the country and seem to know
    what is true or false sooner than others and in more detail.)

    One thing I've learned today is that Trump is *VERY* popular there. The people of Iran are literally dancing in the streets and cheering for
    Trump, despite the danger from the falling bombs and the regime's thugs.
    They REALLY want the Islamic regime GONE.

    I think if Trump wants to be President again after his current term
    ends, the soon-to-be-liberated Iranians might well choose him as THEIR President.

    Of course the war has just started and we don't know how long it will
    last. I think we're all hoping it will be over very quickly with a
    minimum of casualties but the Iranians are bombing civilians in
    neighbouring countries to put pressure on their leaders to demand an end
    to the war, as well as US bases in the area and Israel so this is NOT
    likel to be an (almost) bloodless collapse like the USSR.

    Why can't horrific regimes like the Iranian one, despised by their own
    people and pretty much everyone else, just give it up and go gracefully
    when their time is up?

    --
    Rhino



    Judging by all the fresh videos coming out of the area from both sides (see below) - this is going to be going on for awhile

    http://www.jlaforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=672869622


    This is a response to the post seen at: http://www.jlaforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=702008341#702008341
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  • From super70s@super70s@super70s.invalid to rec.arts.tv on Sat Feb 28 14:40:13 2026
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    On 2026-02-28 17:18:22 +0000, Rhino said:

    Why can't horrific regimes like the Iranian one, despised by their own people and pretty much everyone else, just give it up and go gracefully
    when their time is up?

    You swallowed the propaganda from the pro-Israel Washington politicians (mostly Republican) hook, line and sinker didn't you. Iran isn't the
    villain in all this, Israel is.

    $8 trillion of the US's current $38 trillion debt went to Israel for
    their "defense" -- actually mostly offense. Meanwhile all Israelis get
    free health care, free college and free paid leave.

    Polls show the American people are overwhelmingly against a war in
    Iran. Every member of congress Republican and Democrat should go on the
    record pro or con for what will surely become an Iraq 2.0 disaster and
    not hide behind Trump's apron.

    And nothing's going to change over there without US boots on the
    ground. "You can't change the government in Iran from 18,000 feet" as
    one former general said on CNN.

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  • From BTR1701@atropos@mac.com to rec.arts.tv on Sat Feb 28 20:52:26 2026
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    On Feb 28, 2026 at 12:40:13 PM PST, "super70s" <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:

    On 2026-02-28 17:18:22 +0000, Rhino said:

    Why can't horrific regimes like the Iranian one, despised by their own
    people and pretty much everyone else, just give it up and go gracefully
    when their time is up?

    You swallowed the propaganda from the pro-Israel Washington politicians (mostly Republican) hook, line and sinker didn't you. Iran isn't the
    villain in all this, Israel is.

    $8 trillion of the US's current $38 trillion debt went to Israel for
    their "defense" -- actually mostly offense. Meanwhile all Israelis get
    free health care, free college and free paid leave.

    How does any of that refute Rhino's comment that Iran is a horrific regime, despised by its own people and pretty much everyone else?


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  • From Rhino@no_offline_contact@example.com to rec.arts.tv on Sat Feb 28 16:39:33 2026
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    On 2026-02-28 3:40 p.m., super70s wrote:
    On 2026-02-28 17:18:22 +0000, Rhino said:

    Why can't horrific regimes like the Iranian one, despised by their own
    people and pretty much everyone else, just give it up and go
    gracefully when their time is up?

    You swallowed the propaganda from the pro-Israel Washington politicians (mostly Republican) hook, line and sinker didn't you. Iran isn't the
    villain in all this, Israel is.

    $8 trillion of the US's current $38 trillion debt went to Israel for
    their "defense" -- actually mostly offense. Meanwhile all Israelis get
    free health care, free college and free paid leave.

    Polls show the American people are overwhelmingly against a war in Iran. Every member of congress Republican and Democrat should go on the record
    pro or con for what will surely become an Iraq 2.0 disaster and not hide behind Trump's apron.

    And nothing's going to change over there without US boots on the ground. "You can't change the government in Iran from 18,000 feet" as one former general said on CNN.


    You swallowed the "progressive" Left's propaganda hook line and sinker
    didn't you?

    I'm not even going to bother to defend that assertion; you're too
    captured by your own ideology. It shows in everything you've ever said
    here.
    --
    Rhino
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  • From moviePig@nobody@nowhere.com to rec.arts.tv on Sat Feb 28 18:26:20 2026
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    On 2/28/2026 4:39 PM, Rhino wrote:
    On 2026-02-28 3:40 p.m., super70s wrote:
    On 2026-02-28 17:18:22 +0000, Rhino said:

    Why can't horrific regimes like the Iranian one, despised by their
    own people and pretty much everyone else, just give it up and go
    gracefully when their time is up?

    You swallowed the propaganda from the pro-Israel Washington
    politicians (mostly Republican) hook, line and sinker didn't you. Iran
    isn't the villain in all this, Israel is.

    $8 trillion of the US's current $38 trillion debt went to Israel for
    their "defense" -- actually mostly offense. Meanwhile all Israelis get
    free health care, free college and free paid leave.

    Polls show the American people are overwhelmingly against a war in
    Iran. Every member of congress Republican and Democrat should go on
    the record pro or con for what will surely become an Iraq 2.0 disaster
    and not hide behind Trump's apron.

    And nothing's going to change over there without US boots on the
    ground. "You can't change the government in Iran from 18,000 feet" as
    one former general said on CNN.


    You swallowed the "progressive" Left's propaganda hook line and sinker didn't you?

    I'm not even going to bother to defend that assertion; you're too
    captured by your own ideology. It shows in everything you've ever said
    here.

    He has a point-of-view. You don't?


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