• Re: [OT] New Yorkers organize protest against anti-dog Muslims in NYC

    From BTR1701@atropos@mac.com to rec.arts.tv on Sun Feb 22 00:41:10 2026
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    On Feb 21, 2026 at 3:39:36 PM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 2/21/2026 5:44 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Feb 21, 2026 at 1:25:54 PM PST, "BTR1701" <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    On Feb 21, 2026 at 12:30:10 PM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>
    On 2/20/2026 6:33 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Feb 20, 2026 at 2:24:33 PM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 2/20/2026 5:12 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Feb 20, 2026 at 12:55:57 PM PST, "Rhino"
    <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    As per the title, a group of New Yorkers have reacted badly to the
    insistence of some Muslims that dogs are unclean and should be >>>>>>>> banned. They have planned a pro-dog protest in TImes Square at the
    same time as a group of local Muslims is having their Ramadan >>>>>>>> prayer session, at 5 PM today.

    Lemme guess... it'll be portrayed as disrespectful and Islamophobic
    to have such a protest during Ramadan.

    But when Muslims flood shopping malls during Christmas and block all
    the aisles and concourses by praying, or praying en masse in front
    of a church holding a Christmas service, making it difficult, if not
    impossible, for the parishioners to enter, well, that's just them >>>>>>> "expressing their culture". No one calls them bigots or Chistophobes
    or calls them out for disrespect of other religions.

    Muslims can literally do whatever they want in Europe and in America
    and no one says a word about it. But inconvenience or criticize them
    in any way, do the same to them that they do to Christians, and >>>>>>> people run around like their hair is on fire.

    "Muslims flood shopping malls during Christmas"? Has this actually >>>>>> happened?

    Yes, it happened more than once here in L.A. last December. Hundreds of
    Muslims flooded the mall in Torrance, the Grove, and the Beverly >>>>> Center and
    suddenly just felt the need to pray and dropped down on their knees, >>>>> usually
    in the atrium where parents were bringing their kids to sit on
    Santa's lap,
    and started chanting "Allahu ahkbar" over and over again.

    Were they being Christophobic bigots? According to their own standards,
    they
    absolutely were. Did any of the media or politicians hold them to account
    for
    their bigotry? I'll give you one guess.

    Why is it that it's always our culture and religion that has to give way,
    bend, or break to tolerate theirs? They're never expected to tolerate >>>>> us or
    make any cultural sacrifices to satisfy us. It's only ever one way with
    Muslims.

    Well, I think it's fair to say that a cornerstone of "our culture and >>>> religion" is 'Turn the other cheek', as well as 'Love thy neighbor', >>>> etc. And that transcends "fairness" and other pipe dreams.

    Yeah, we accede to minorities (which is a good thing) ...right up until >>>> we don't (which is also a good thing). Though I empathize with the >>>> frustration, I don't think it can be addressed with conventional logic. >>>
    Sure it can. You just have to not be afraid to use it.

    Japan isn't afraid. With the election of a new conservative prime minister >> and
    government, they just passed a series of new laws:

    Halal requirements - BANNED
    Large mosques - BANNED
    Call to prayer - BANNED
    Praying in the street - BANNED

    Muslims use all of the above as a power move over the local populace to
    assert
    their dominance, disguised in religion and using it as a shield. Japan said >> no
    and Japan will remain Japanese as a result.

    Does Japan have an official sanctioned religion (Shinto?)? I don't see
    how a modern first-world country can ban specific less-than-outrageous religious customs (e.g., Halal).

    Muslims are still free to eat halal food. They just can't make it a
    requirement that *all* food offered for sale to the public be halal, which is what they were pushing for before this most recent election.

    If Islam can irritate a secular government into such a ban, it seems they've achieved a major goal.

    Only if their goal was irritation. If their goal was colonization, then
    they've been given a serious setback.


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  • From Rhino@no_offline_contact@example.com to rec.arts.tv on Sat Feb 21 19:59:33 2026
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    On 2026-02-21 7:41 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:
    On Feb 21, 2026 at 3:39:36 PM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 2/21/2026 5:44 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Feb 21, 2026 at 1:25:54 PM PST, "BTR1701" <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    On Feb 21, 2026 at 12:30:10 PM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 2/20/2026 6:33 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Feb 20, 2026 at 2:24:33 PM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 2/20/2026 5:12 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Feb 20, 2026 at 12:55:57 PM PST, "Rhino"
    <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    As per the title, a group of New Yorkers have reacted badly to the
    insistence of some Muslims that dogs are unclean and should be >>>>>>>>> banned. They have planned a pro-dog protest in TImes Square at the
    same time as a group of local Muslims is having their Ramadan >>>>>>>>> prayer session, at 5 PM today.

    Lemme guess... it'll be portrayed as disrespectful and Islamophobic
    to have such a protest during Ramadan.

    But when Muslims flood shopping malls during Christmas and block all
    the aisles and concourses by praying, or praying en masse in front
    of a church holding a Christmas service, making it difficult, if not
    impossible, for the parishioners to enter, well, that's just them
    "expressing their culture". No one calls them bigots or Chistophobes
    or calls them out for disrespect of other religions.

    Muslims can literally do whatever they want in Europe and in America
    and no one says a word about it. But inconvenience or criticize them
    in any way, do the same to them that they do to Christians, and >>>>>>>> people run around like their hair is on fire.

    "Muslims flood shopping malls during Christmas"? Has this actually
    happened?

    Yes, it happened more than once here in L.A. last December. Hundreds of
    Muslims flooded the mall in Torrance, the Grove, and the Beverly >>>>>> Center and
    suddenly just felt the need to pray and dropped down on their knees,
    usually
    in the atrium where parents were bringing their kids to sit on >>>>>> Santa's lap,
    and started chanting "Allahu ahkbar" over and over again.

    Were they being Christophobic bigots? According to their own standards,
    they
    absolutely were. Did any of the media or politicians hold them to account
    for
    their bigotry? I'll give you one guess.

    Why is it that it's always our culture and religion that has to give way,
    bend, or break to tolerate theirs? They're never expected to tolerate
    us or
    make any cultural sacrifices to satisfy us. It's only ever one way with
    Muslims.

    Well, I think it's fair to say that a cornerstone of "our culture and >>>>> religion" is 'Turn the other cheek', as well as 'Love thy neighbor', >>>>> etc. And that transcends "fairness" and other pipe dreams.

    Yeah, we accede to minorities (which is a good thing) ...right up until
    we don't (which is also a good thing). Though I empathize with the >>>>> frustration, I don't think it can be addressed with conventional logic.

    Sure it can. You just have to not be afraid to use it.

    Japan isn't afraid. With the election of a new conservative prime minister
    and
    government, they just passed a series of new laws:

    Halal requirements - BANNED
    Large mosques - BANNED
    Call to prayer - BANNED
    Praying in the street - BANNED

    Muslims use all of the above as a power move over the local populace to >>> assert
    their dominance, disguised in religion and using it as a shield. Japan said
    no
    and Japan will remain Japanese as a result.

    Does Japan have an official sanctioned religion (Shinto?)? I don't see
    how a modern first-world country can ban specific less-than-outrageous
    religious customs (e.g., Halal).

    Muslims are still free to eat halal food. They just can't make it a requirement that *all* food offered for sale to the public be halal, which is what they were pushing for before this most recent election.

    I read an article recently that says ALL chicken served at some
    restaurants in this country is halal now. I think Popeye's was mentioned
    as one of them and possibly KFC. I know KFC started in the US and I
    think Popeye's is a US outfit as well so you may find that they follow
    the same policy in America.

    If Islam can irritate a secular government into such a ban, it seems they've >> achieved a major goal.

    Only if their goal was irritation. If their goal was colonization, then they've been given a serious setback.


    --
    Rhino
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  • From Ubiquitous@weberm@polaris.net to rec.arts.tv on Sat Feb 21 21:13:41 2026
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    Moviepig wrote:
    On 2/20/2026 5:12 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Feb 20, 2026 at 12:55:57 PM PST, "Rhino"
    <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    As per the title, a group of New Yorkers have reacted badly to the
    insistence of some Muslims that dogs are unclean and should be
    banned. They have planned a pro-dog protest in TImes Square at the
    same time as a group of local Muslims is having their Ramadan
    prayer session, at 5 PM today.

    Lemme guess... it'll be portrayed as disrespectful and Islamophobic
    to have such a protest during Ramadan.

    But when Muslims flood shopping malls during Christmas and block all
    the aisles and concourses by praying, or praying en masse in front
    of a church holding a Christmas service, making it difficult, if not
    impossible, for the parishioners to enter, well, that's just them
    "expressing their culture". No one calls them bigots or Chistophobes
    or calls them out for disrespect of other religions.

    Muslims can literally do whatever they want in Europe and in America
    and no one says a word about it. But inconvenience or criticize them
    in any way, do the same to them that they do to Christians, and
    people run around like their hair is on fire.

    "Muslims flood shopping malls during Christmas"? Has this actually
    happened?

    Nonresponse noted. Get back to us when you have a real argument to
    make.
    --
    Democrats and the liberal media hate President Trump more than they
    love this country.

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  • From Ubiquitous@weberm@polaris.net to rec.arts.tv on Sat Feb 21 21:14:58 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.tv

    In article <10nar07$qaq8$1@dont-email.me>, atropos@mac.com wrote:
    On Feb 20, 2026 at 2:24:33 PM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
    On 2/20/2026 5:12 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Feb 20, 2026 at 12:55:57 PM PST, "Rhino"
    <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    As per the title, a group of New Yorkers have reacted badly to the
    insistence of some Muslims that dogs are unclean and should be
    banned. They have planned a pro-dog protest in TImes Square at the
    same time as a group of local Muslims is having their Ramadan
    prayer session, at 5 PM today.

    Lemme guess... it'll be portrayed as disrespectful and Islamophobic
    to have such a protest during Ramadan.

    But when Muslims flood shopping malls during Christmas and block all
    the aisles and concourses by praying, or praying en masse in front
    of a church holding a Christmas service, making it difficult, if not
    impossible, for the parishioners to enter, well, that's just them
    "expressing their culture". No one calls them bigots or Chistophobes
    or calls them out for disrespect of other religions.

    Muslims can literally do whatever they want in Europe and in America
    and no one says a word about it. But inconvenience or criticize them
    in any way, do the same to them that they do to Christians, and
    people run around like their hair is on fire.

    "Muslims flood shopping malls during Christmas"? Has this actually
    happened?

    Yes, it happened more than once here in L.A. last December. Hundreds of >Muslims flooded the mall in Torrance, the Grove, and the Beverly Center and >suddenly just felt the need to pray and dropped down on their knees, usually >in the atrium where parents were bringing their kids to sit on Santa's lap, >and started chanting "Allahu ahkbar" over and over again.

    You do understand that's moviepig's tell for when he's lost a debate, right?
    --
    Democrats and the liberal media hate President Trump more than they
    love this country.

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  • From BTR1701@atropos@mac.com to rec.arts.tv on Sun Feb 22 03:53:08 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.tv

    On Feb 21, 2026 at 4:59:33 PM PST, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    On 2026-02-21 7:41 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:
    On Feb 21, 2026 at 3:39:36 PM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>
    On 2/21/2026 5:44 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Feb 21, 2026 at 1:25:54 PM PST, "BTR1701" <atropos@mac.com> wrote: >>>>
    On Feb 21, 2026 at 12:30:10 PM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 2/20/2026 6:33 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Feb 20, 2026 at 2:24:33 PM PST, "moviePig"
    <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 2/20/2026 5:12 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Feb 20, 2026 at 12:55:57 PM PST, "Rhino"
    <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    As per the title, a group of New Yorkers have reacted badly to the
    insistence of some Muslims that dogs are unclean and should be
    banned. They have planned a pro-dog protest in TImes Square at the
    same time as a group of local Muslims is having their Ramadan
    prayer session, at 5 PM today.

    Lemme guess... it'll be portrayed as disrespectful and Islamophobic
    to have such a protest during Ramadan.

    But when Muslims flood shopping malls during Christmas and block all
    the aisles and concourses by praying, or praying en masse in front
    of a church holding a Christmas service, making it difficult, if not
    impossible, for the parishioners to enter, well, that's just them
    "expressing their culture". No one calls them bigots or Chistophobes
    or calls them out for disrespect of other religions. >>>>>>>>>
    Muslims can literally do whatever they want in Europe and in America
    and no one says a word about it. But inconvenience or criticize them
    in any way, do the same to them that they do to Christians, and
    people run around like their hair is on fire.

    "Muslims flood shopping malls during Christmas"? Has this actually
    happened?

    Yes, it happened more than once here in L.A. last December. Hundreds of
    Muslims flooded the mall in Torrance, the Grove, and the Beverly >>>>>>> Center and
    suddenly just felt the need to pray and dropped down on their knees,
    usually
    in the atrium where parents were bringing their kids to sit on >>>>>>> Santa's lap,
    and started chanting "Allahu ahkbar" over and over again.

    Were they being Christophobic bigots? According to their own standards,
    they
    absolutely were. Did any of the media or politicians hold them to >>>>>>> account
    for
    their bigotry? I'll give you one guess.

    Why is it that it's always our culture and religion that has to >>>>>>> give way,
    bend, or break to tolerate theirs? They're never expected to tolerate
    us or
    make any cultural sacrifices to satisfy us. It's only ever one way with
    Muslims.

    Well, I think it's fair to say that a cornerstone of "our culture and
    religion" is 'Turn the other cheek', as well as 'Love thy neighbor',
    etc. And that transcends "fairness" and other pipe dreams.

    Yeah, we accede to minorities (which is a good thing) ...right up until
    we don't (which is also a good thing). Though I empathize with the >>>>>> frustration, I don't think it can be addressed with conventional logic.

    Sure it can. You just have to not be afraid to use it.

    Japan isn't afraid. With the election of a new conservative prime minister
    and
    government, they just passed a series of new laws:

    Halal requirements - BANNED
    Large mosques - BANNED
    Call to prayer - BANNED
    Praying in the street - BANNED

    Muslims use all of the above as a power move over the local populace to >>>> assert
    their dominance, disguised in religion and using it as a shield. Japan >>>> said
    no
    and Japan will remain Japanese as a result.

    Does Japan have an official sanctioned religion (Shinto?)? I don't see >>> how a modern first-world country can ban specific less-than-outrageous
    religious customs (e.g., Halal).

    Muslims are still free to eat halal food. They just can't make it a
    requirement that *all* food offered for sale to the public be halal, which >> is
    what they were pushing for before this most recent election.

    I read an article recently that says ALL chicken served at some
    restaurants in this country is halal now. I think Popeye's was mentioned
    as one of them and possibly KFC. I know KFC started in the US and I
    think Popeye's is a US outfit as well so you may find that they follow
    the same policy in America.

    If it is, it's been done as a business decision by the companies themselves, because I know of no legal requirement or governmental regulation that
    mandates it. Any such regulation would run into real problems with the Establishment Clause.

    If Islam can irritate a secular government into such a ban, it seems they've
    achieved a major goal.

    Only if their goal was irritation. If their goal was colonization, then
    they've been given a serious setback.


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  • From Rhino@no_offline_contact@example.com to rec.arts.tv on Sun Feb 22 16:14:29 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.tv

    On 2026-02-21 10:53 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:
    On Feb 21, 2026 at 4:59:33 PM PST, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    On 2026-02-21 7:41 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:
    On Feb 21, 2026 at 3:39:36 PM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>
    On 2/21/2026 5:44 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Feb 21, 2026 at 1:25:54 PM PST, "BTR1701" <atropos@mac.com> wrote: >>>>>
    On Feb 21, 2026 at 12:30:10 PM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 2/20/2026 6:33 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Feb 20, 2026 at 2:24:33 PM PST, "moviePig"
    <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 2/20/2026 5:12 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Feb 20, 2026 at 12:55:57 PM PST, "Rhino"
    <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    As per the title, a group of New Yorkers have reacted badly to the
    insistence of some Muslims that dogs are unclean and should be
    banned. They have planned a pro-dog protest in TImes Square at the
    same time as a group of local Muslims is having their Ramadan
    prayer session, at 5 PM today.

    Lemme guess... it'll be portrayed as disrespectful and Islamophobic
    to have such a protest during Ramadan.

    But when Muslims flood shopping malls during Christmas and block all
    the aisles and concourses by praying, or praying en masse in front
    of a church holding a Christmas service, making it difficult, if not
    impossible, for the parishioners to enter, well, that's just them
    "expressing their culture". No one calls them bigots or Chistophobes
    or calls them out for disrespect of other religions. >>>>>>>>>>
    Muslims can literally do whatever they want in Europe and in America
    and no one says a word about it. But inconvenience or criticize them
    in any way, do the same to them that they do to Christians, and
    people run around like their hair is on fire.

    "Muslims flood shopping malls during Christmas"? Has this actually
    happened?

    Yes, it happened more than once here in L.A. last December. Hundreds of
    Muslims flooded the mall in Torrance, the Grove, and the Beverly
    Center and
    suddenly just felt the need to pray and dropped down on their knees,
    usually
    in the atrium where parents were bringing their kids to sit on >>>>>>>> Santa's lap,
    and started chanting "Allahu ahkbar" over and over again. >>>>>>>>
    Were they being Christophobic bigots? According to their own standards,
    they
    absolutely were. Did any of the media or politicians hold them to
    account
    for
    their bigotry? I'll give you one guess.

    Why is it that it's always our culture and religion that has to >>>>>>>> give way,
    bend, or break to tolerate theirs? They're never expected to tolerate
    us or
    make any cultural sacrifices to satisfy us. It's only ever one way with
    Muslims.

    Well, I think it's fair to say that a cornerstone of "our culture and
    religion" is 'Turn the other cheek', as well as 'Love thy neighbor',
    etc. And that transcends "fairness" and other pipe dreams. >>>>>>>
    Yeah, we accede to minorities (which is a good thing) ...right up until
    we don't (which is also a good thing). Though I empathize with the
    frustration, I don't think it can be addressed with conventional logic.

    Sure it can. You just have to not be afraid to use it.

    Japan isn't afraid. With the election of a new conservative prime minister
    and
    government, they just passed a series of new laws:

    Halal requirements - BANNED
    Large mosques - BANNED
    Call to prayer - BANNED
    Praying in the street - BANNED

    Muslims use all of the above as a power move over the local populace to
    assert
    their dominance, disguised in religion and using it as a shield. Japan
    said
    no
    and Japan will remain Japanese as a result.

    Does Japan have an official sanctioned religion (Shinto?)? I don't see >>>> how a modern first-world country can ban specific less-than-outrageous >>>> religious customs (e.g., Halal).

    Muslims are still free to eat halal food. They just can't make it a
    requirement that *all* food offered for sale to the public be halal, which
    is
    what they were pushing for before this most recent election.

    I read an article recently that says ALL chicken served at some
    restaurants in this country is halal now. I think Popeye's was mentioned
    as one of them and possibly KFC. I know KFC started in the US and I
    think Popeye's is a US outfit as well so you may find that they follow
    the same policy in America.

    If it is, it's been done as a business decision by the companies themselves, because I know of no legal requirement or governmental regulation that mandates it. Any such regulation would run into real problems with the Establishment Clause.

    I didn't see anything that suggested that the fast food places were
    going halal because of a law or regulation; I had the impression they
    did it for their own convenience. Otherwise, they'd have to offer halal
    and regular chicken and make it clear to customers what they were
    getting, worry about giving regular chicken to a halal customer or vice
    versa, etc. It makes sense to standardize on ONE kind of chicken
    although I question why they standardized on halal. I assume they
    thought they'd lose any Muslim customers if they didn't offer halal.

    I don't know if they actually TELL people that they are being served
    halal or if that is something they keep to themselves. I have no idea
    what makes the meat halal either: could it involve specific spices to
    which some customers might be allergic? Is eating halal problematic for
    any non-Muslims in religious terms?

    If Islam can irritate a secular government into such a ban, it seems they've
    achieved a major goal.

    Only if their goal was irritation. If their goal was colonization, then >>> they've been given a serious setback.


    --
    Rhino
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  • From Pluted Pup@plutedpup@outlook.com to rec.arts.tv on Sun Feb 22 13:22:50 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.tv

    On 2/20/26 12:55 PM, Rhino wrote:
    As per the title, a group of New Yorkers have reacted badly to the insistence of some Muslims that dogs are unclean and should be banned. They have planned a pro-dog protest in TImes Square at the same time as a group of local Muslims is having their Ramadan prayer session, at 5 PM today.

    https://redstate.com/jenniferoo/2026/02/20/wag-the-night-away-in-times-square-is-new-yorkers-in-your-face-to-mamdanis-anti-dog-stances-n2199371

    It's going to be interesting to see coverage of that little gathering! I don't think I would want to be one of the cops dealing with that.

    Is this the left wing? Muslims like cats.
    Dogs are left wing, cats are right wing.

    Just a jest. Actually the Marxists hate all
    animals.


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