• Re: [OT] (Former) Prince Andrew has been arrested

    From Ubiquitous@weberm@polaris.net to rec.arts.tv on Sun Feb 22 00:15:15 2026
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    In article <10nc2ib$168t1$1@dont-email.me>, super70s@super70s.invalid wrote:
    On 2026-02-20 23:38:05 +0000, BTR1701 said:
    "Your Name" <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
    On 2026-02-20 21:18:02 +0000, super70s said:

    I wonder if they'll ever get around to investigating Harry, he was
    known to do some hard partying in Vegas before he settled down with
    Markle.

    Harry was investigated during his move to America. I didn't bother ever
    reading what happened ... likely they let him off, like most rich gits.

    Let him off for what? What crime did he commit? Having a spat with your
    family and moving to another country isn't a crime. He may be an idiot
    who doesn't have the balls to stand up to his bitchy wife, but what did
    he do that could possibly warrant a criminal investigation by the
    government?

    Think real hard. It's pretty obvious what he would be investigated for
    if some victim(s) came forth. There was no indication Andrew ever had
    sex with Virginia Giuffre until 14 years after it happened and turned
    up in court documents.

    Reading comprehension problems noted.
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  • From The True Melissa@thetruemelissa@gmail.com to rec.arts.tv on Sun Feb 22 06:25:20 2026
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    Verily, in article <10nd9jd$1kgpm$1@dont-email.me>, did
    YourName@YourISP.com deliver unto us this message:

    On 2026-02-21 14:33:37 +0000, The True Melissa said:
    Verily, in article <10nahcb$n9en$1@dont-email.me>, did
    YourName@YourISP.com deliver unto us this message:

    He is of course still the son of a Queen, so technically still a
    "prince" (lower-case) by birth.

    Yep, that's the problem. The "royal highness" is supposed to be innate
    and inborn.

    Andrew is no longer a "royal highness" because he has no royal title.
    He's now just plain old Mr. Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor".

    A lot of sources are describing him as "the king's brother." We could
    also call him the Andrew formerly known as Prince.


    This whole royalty thing may not last much longer.

    It would take a new law, and *a lot* of time and money to get rid of
    the royal family ... not only in the UK, but also every other country
    that has them as the head of state (New Zealand, Canada, Australia,
    etc.). That's one big reason why it's also not worth bothering with for these countries to become a "republic" - a huge pile of time and money wasted to achieve nothing useful. The royal family is simply a
    figurehead and has no real power over anything these days.

    I'm not sure that's completely true. Last I heard, the monarch still
    vetoes minor laws every year. However, I will let the people in the
    affected countries have opinions on that. To me, it's just a show.
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  • From Your Name@YourName@YourISP.com to rec.arts.tv on Mon Feb 23 09:44:34 2026
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    On 2026-02-22 11:25:20 +0000, The True Melissa said:

    Verily, in article <10nd9jd$1kgpm$1@dont-email.me>, did
    YourName@YourISP.com deliver unto us this message:

    On 2026-02-21 14:33:37 +0000, The True Melissa said:
    Verily, in article <10nahcb$n9en$1@dont-email.me>, did
    YourName@YourISP.com deliver unto us this message:

    He is of course still the son of a Queen, so technically still a
    "prince" (lower-case) by birth.

    Yep, that's the problem. The "royal highness" is supposed to be innate
    and inborn.

    Andrew is no longer a "royal highness" because he has no royal title.
    He's now just plain old Mr. Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor".

    A lot of sources are describing him as "the king's brother." We could
    also call him the Andrew formerly known as Prince.


    This whole royalty thing may not last much longer.

    It would take a new law, and *a lot* of time and money to get rid of
    the royal family ... not only in the UK, but also every other country
    that has them as the head of state (New Zealand, Canada, Australia,
    etc.). That's one big reason why it's also not worth bothering with for
    these countries to become a "republic" - a huge pile of time and money
    wasted to achieve nothing useful. The royal family is simply a
    figurehead and has no real power over anything these days.

    I'm not sure that's completely true. Last I heard, the monarch still
    vetoes minor laws every year. However, I will let the people in the
    affected countries have opinions on that. To me, it's just a show.

    Yep, it's all just pageantry. The kings and queens of England lost
    their real power a LONG LONG time ago (about the end of the 17th
    century).

    "Although the monarchy no longer has political power, the monarch
    is still centrally involved in the business of government as
    head of state. The King appoints the Prime Minister, and all the
    other ministers; summons and dissolves parliament; and gives
    royal assent to laws passed by parliament. Each year the King
    attends the state opening of parliament and delivers the King's
    Speech (scripted by the government) announcing the government's
    legislative programme for the coming year."


    <https://www.ucl.ac.uk/social-historical-sciences/constitution-unit/constitution-unit-research-areas/monarchy-church-and-state/british-monarchy-faqs>





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  • From Rhino@no_offline_contact@example.com to rec.arts.tv on Sun Feb 22 15:57:26 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.tv

    On 2026-02-22 6:25 a.m., The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10nd9jd$1kgpm$1@dont-email.me>, did
    YourName@YourISP.com deliver unto us this message:

    On 2026-02-21 14:33:37 +0000, The True Melissa said:
    Verily, in article <10nahcb$n9en$1@dont-email.me>, did
    YourName@YourISP.com deliver unto us this message:

    He is of course still the son of a Queen, so technically still a
    "prince" (lower-case) by birth.

    Yep, that's the problem. The "royal highness" is supposed to be innate
    and inborn.

    Andrew is no longer a "royal highness" because he has no royal title.
    He's now just plain old Mr. Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor".

    A lot of sources are describing him as "the king's brother." We could
    also call him the Andrew formerly known as Prince.


    This whole royalty thing may not last much longer.

    It would take a new law, and *a lot* of time and money to get rid of
    the royal family ... not only in the UK, but also every other country
    that has them as the head of state (New Zealand, Canada, Australia,
    etc.). That's one big reason why it's also not worth bothering with for
    these countries to become a "republic" - a huge pile of time and money
    wasted to achieve nothing useful. The royal family is simply a
    figurehead and has no real power over anything these days.

    I'm not sure that's completely true. Last I heard, the monarch still
    vetoes minor laws every year. However, I will let the people in the
    affected countries have opinions on that. To me, it's just a show.


    I've lived in Canada all my life and have been paying attention to news
    since I was quite young but have never heard of the Queen (or now the
    King) vetoing anything in THIS country. I feel sure the news would have reported it if they did and that there would be some ill will towards
    the monarchy in that case.

    I don't know how popularly the Royal Family is here in terms of the
    overall sentiments of the country. You don't hear a lot of anti-monarchy sentiments and they usually get a decent turnout when they make a Royal
    Visit. The Queen's motorcade crossed my street on one visit when I was
    in my teens but I couldn't be bothered to go see.

    I'm offended at the thought of the Royals (and they're supporters)
    thinking the Royals are somehow better people than the rest of us and I
    resent the idea that I'd be expected to bow in their presence or call
    them "Your Highness" or whatever. I resent the taxes spent on their
    upkeep too. But the institution itself may have some merit just in terms
    of preserving some stability: an institution that COULD conceivably do something important in really dire circumstances, like helping pull
    people together in the event of a major war. (The UK is approaching that
    now, but a civil war, and I still have a faint hope that the King will
    call for new elections so that a more sensible party can govern.)
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  • From BTR1701@atropos@mac.com to rec.arts.tv on Sun Feb 22 21:00:36 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.tv

    On Feb 22, 2026 at 12:57:26 PM PST, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    On 2026-02-22 6:25 a.m., The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10nd9jd$1kgpm$1@dont-email.me>, did
    YourName@YourISP.com deliver unto us this message:

    On 2026-02-21 14:33:37 +0000, The True Melissa said:
    Verily, in article <10nahcb$n9en$1@dont-email.me>, did
    YourName@YourISP.com deliver unto us this message:

    He is of course still the son of a Queen, so technically still a
    "prince" (lower-case) by birth.

    Yep, that's the problem. The "royal highness" is supposed to be innate >>>> and inborn.

    Andrew is no longer a "royal highness" because he has no royal title.
    He's now just plain old Mr. Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor".

    A lot of sources are describing him as "the king's brother." We could
    also call him the Andrew formerly known as Prince.

    This whole royalty thing may not last much longer.

    It would take a new law, and *a lot* of time and money to get rid of
    the royal family ... not only in the UK, but also every other country
    that has them as the head of state (New Zealand, Canada, Australia,
    etc.). That's one big reason why it's also not worth bothering with for >>> these countries to become a "republic" - a huge pile of time and money
    wasted to achieve nothing useful. The royal family is simply a
    figurehead and has no real power over anything these days.

    I'm not sure that's completely true. Last I heard, the monarch still
    vetoes minor laws every year. However, I will let the people in the
    affected countries have opinions on that. To me, it's just a show.

    I've lived in Canada all my life and have been paying attention to news since I was quite young but have never heard of the Queen (or now the
    King) vetoing anything in THIS country. I feel sure the news would have reported it if they did and that there would be some ill will towards
    the monarchy in that case.

    I don't know how popularly the Royal Family is here in terms of the
    overall sentiments of the country. You don't hear a lot of anti-monarchy sentiments and they usually get a decent turnout when they make a Royal Visit. The Queen's motorcade crossed my street on one visit when I was
    in my teens but I couldn't be bothered to go see.

    I'm offended at the thought of the Royals (and they're supporters)
    thinking the Royals are somehow better people than the rest of us

    No, you have to be a precious, precious American celebrity for that. They
    truly are better than rest of us and we're lucky to have them.


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  • From moviePig@nobody@nowhere.com to rec.arts.tv on Sun Feb 22 16:49:23 2026
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    On 2/22/2026 3:57 PM, Rhino wrote:
    On 2026-02-22 6:25 a.m., The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10nd9jd$1kgpm$1@dont-email.me>, did
    YourName@YourISP.com deliver unto us this message:

    On 2026-02-21 14:33:37 +0000, The True Melissa said:
    Verily, in article <10nahcb$n9en$1@dont-email.me>, did
    YourName@YourISP.com deliver unto us this message:

    He is of course still the son of a Queen, so technically still a
    "prince" (lower-case) by birth.

    Yep, that's the problem. The "royal highness" is supposed to be innate >>>> and inborn.

    Andrew is no longer a "royal highness" because he has no royal title.
    He's now just plain old Mr. Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor".

    A lot of sources are describing him as "the king's brother." We could
    also call him the Andrew formerly known as Prince.


    This whole royalty thing may not last much longer.

    It would take a new law, and *a lot* of time and money to get rid of
    the royal family ... not only in the UK, but also every other country
    that has them as the head of state (New Zealand, Canada, Australia,
    etc.). That's one big reason why it's also not worth bothering with for
    these countries to become a "republic" - a huge pile of time and money
    wasted to achieve nothing useful. The royal family is simply a
    figurehead and has no real power over anything these days.

    I'm not sure that's completely true. Last I heard, the monarch still
    vetoes minor laws every year. However, I will let the people in the
    affected countries have opinions on that. To me, it's just a show.


    I've lived in Canada all my life and have been paying attention to news since I was quite young but have never heard of the Queen (or now the
    King) vetoing anything in THIS country. I feel sure the news would have reported it if they did and that there would be some ill will towards
    the monarchy in that case.

    I don't know how popularly the Royal Family is here in terms of the
    overall sentiments of the country. You don't hear a lot of anti-monarchy sentiments and they usually get a decent turnout when they make a Royal Visit. The Queen's motorcade crossed my street on one visit when I was
    in my teens but I couldn't be bothered to go see.

    I'm offended at the thought of the Royals (and they're supporters)
    thinking the Royals are somehow better people than the rest of us and I resent the idea that I'd be expected to bow in their presence or call
    them "Your Highness" or whatever. I resent the taxes spent on their
    upkeep too. But the institution itself may have some merit just in terms
    of preserving some stability: an institution that COULD conceivably do something important in really dire circumstances, like helping pull
    people together in the event of a major war. (The UK is approaching that now, but a civil war, and I still have a faint hope that the King will
    call for new elections so that a more sensible party can govern.)

    Think of them as Santa Claus ...supported by popular tradition. Oh, and getting stuff rather than giving it.


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  • From The Horny Goat@lcraver@home.ca to rec.arts.tv on Mon Feb 23 23:32:33 2026
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    On Thu, 19 Feb 2026 14:38:25 -0500, Rhino
    <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    However, Piers Morgan was interviewed in a Fox News clip I just saw and
    said that the charges which the justice system *could* levy might well
    see Andrew in prison FOR LIFE. Morgan is not a lawyer so I have no idea
    if he has talked to credible people about this or is just
    sensationalizing but it certainly looks like these are very serious
    charges. Morgan also said he could imagine the entire monarchy being
    swept away as one of the consequences of this affair!

    Clearly Prince William is terrified about that possibility as well.
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  • From The Horny Goat@lcraver@home.ca to rec.arts.tv on Mon Feb 23 23:36:54 2026
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    On Thu, 19 Feb 2026 17:28:06 -0500, Capricorne <capricorne@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    It might not even be a bunch of smaller charges added up but a single charge
    of "misconduct in public office". Besides, like Canada, I think the Brits >> usually make sentences for multiple offences concurrent so 10 two-year
    sentences is usually served in two years (minus time off for good behaviour,
    prison overcrowding, etc.)


    Isn't he the one who made his military training in Canada?

    Not sure about that but he was certainly known as a helicopter pilot
    in the Falkland war in 1982. Apparently he volunteered for Afghanistan
    but was told if he went he'd be kept far from the front so he said no.
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  • From The Horny Goat@lcraver@home.ca to rec.arts.tv on Mon Feb 23 23:44:34 2026
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    On Thu, 19 Feb 2026 17:19:44 -0500, Rhino
    <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    The Royals get money from the government via something called the Civil >List; they also have income from land and rents from tenant farmers
    which they bequeath to each generation in turn. If Andrew tries to spend >money from such sources, the King may pushback saying it isn't really >Andrew's money so much as money he got by being a royal and therefore >directly from the government or indirectly by virtue of the government >letting him have that money.

    I'm absolutely speculating on all of this from little bits that I've
    heard over the years; I may be completely wrong. None of the punditry
    has said anything like this and they'd know better how things work than
    I do.

    The Prince of Wales holds all kinds of property from which he receives
    rents - I only realized how much when I visited England in 2016 - the
    parents of her boyfriend (his father is a retired senior NCO and
    served in most of the dangerous places British troops have been in the
    last 30 years - they live near Dorchester where Charles - then Prince
    of Wales - had about 1000 acres in 3 or 4 subdivisions - her Beau's
    parents own their own property about a mile from there)
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