• Re: Muslim Call to Prayer Blasts Through NYC

    From The Horny Goat@lcraver@home.ca to rec.arts.tv on Mon Feb 23 18:56:40 2026
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    On Mon, 16 Feb 2026 19:55:06 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
    wrote:

    In Islam, there is no reciprocity: Try public prayer, church bells, or hymns >in Mecca: arrested, possibly executed. Actually non-Muslims aren't even >*allowed* in Mecca at all. Yet in 9/11-scarred New York City, we submit. This >is noise pollution masking conquest-- normalizing Islamic dominance, eroding >our culture, testing tolerance until it breaks.

    Yup - I've stayed in hotels where they had brass circles about 4" in
    diameter with an arrow pointing to Mecca. Once I figured out what it
    was it didn't bother me and nobody woke me in any kind of 'call to
    prayer'. (And this was in a hotel owned by a Catholic order in Hong
    Kong)

    That's a very far cry from the incident in Quebec City where the
    cathedral was encircled by those "praying" (in this context I'd argue
    "preying" was a better choice of words) Muslims preventing access to
    the cathedral by anybody including at times of Mass. (And I am neither
    a Muslim nor a Catholic). In every way but in the courtroom it was a
    siege. For there was zero accomodation for anybody trying to enter the Cathedral.

    THAT's why the government of Quebec is coming down so hard - and I
    think the British government has been totally gutless in failing to
    prosecute those who using search lights beamed their messages onto the
    side of Big Ben and the Houses of Parliament.
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  • From The Horny Goat@lcraver@home.ca to rec.arts.tv on Mon Feb 23 19:02:58 2026
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    On Mon, 16 Feb 2026 15:28:57 -0500, Rhino
    <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    I think it's time for some unfortunate technical failures of the mosque >loudspeakers with amplifiers failing and wires cut by mysterious forces >followed by police being baffled and not having any idea how it happened.

    NO religion should be able to do this and if that means churches can't
    ring their bells either, that is fine by me.

    There's a mosque in my town - it used to be an Anglican church before
    the bishop closed it, deconsecrated it and sold building and property
    to a Muslim group - it is located about 3 blocks from my store's
    former location and is particularly outrageous to me as it was where
    my Scout group met back in the day and where I lost a tooth (later
    crowned) for 'winning' a game of "British Bulldog" - but the old
    church hall is now an interior portion of the mosque. And while they
    do issue a bulletin to their members with the meeting times, they
    DON'T broadcast it to the neighborhood.

    On the other hand about 2 miles away there's a synagogue but I believe
    that was forested land before they bought the land.
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  • From The Horny Goat@lcraver@home.ca to rec.arts.tv on Mon Feb 23 19:06:02 2026
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    On Mon, 16 Feb 2026 17:55:11 -0500, Rhino
    <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    There goes that excuse then. Mind you, I'm sure they'll insist it
    doesn't matter and claim they absolutely HAVE to do the call to prayer
    over loudspeakers because:
    a) it's tradition and they must be allowed to have their traditions >otherwise we're being Islamaphobic
    b) there are destitute Muslims somewhere that don't have a smart phone
    so they've got to be able to remind them about the prayers.

    Most churches manage point b by putting the times in the previous
    week's church bulletin and either local newspaper ads or websites.
    Most churches located on a main street also have signs giving this
    information.

    You are of course free to drive right by or stop and take notes.
    During the peak of summer they will open their windows and the
    neighbourhood hears their singing on Sunday mornings but that has more
    to do with the temperature - it's not as if they do this in January!
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  • From The Horny Goat@lcraver@home.ca to rec.arts.tv on Mon Feb 23 19:10:09 2026
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    On Mon, 16 Feb 2026 17:55:11 -0500, Rhino
    <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    I can't remember the last time I heard church bells in this country.
    They all seem to have stopped decades back. (There *was* a church near
    me in London Ontario that rang a carillon every Sunday morning, probably
    at 10 AM or even 11, but that was in the early 80s. I don't think I've
    heard a church bell since then and I live a three minute walk from a >Lutheran church.)

    There are several churches in our area which I thought had
    decommissioned their bells until last summer when they were rung
    several times at the end of weddings.

    I am not aware that these congregations routinely use them on Sunday
    mornings.
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  • From The Horny Goat@lcraver@home.ca to rec.arts.tv on Mon Feb 23 19:18:06 2026
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    On Mon, 16 Feb 2026 15:49:23 -0500, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
    wrote:

    When Muslims are in the minority, they are very concerned with minority
    rights. When they become the majority, there are no minority rights.

    That'd be attempting to administer a religious ecosystem from within the >ecosystem ...which I'm not sure can be done with principle.

    Islam isn't the only militantly sequestered religion. Afaik, they *all*
    are to some degree or another. E.g., consider recent claims that we
    are, in fact, a *Christian* nation. Seems we may need to rethink our >"Freedom of worship", if only to save our "freedom of speech".

    The United States and Canada don't have official faiths though many of
    each countries' citizens do. The UK on the other hand DOES have a
    state religion though there are both churches and cathedrals of other
    faiths.

    (I remember from our trip to London in 2016 telling my wife that "your
    mother is a convinced Roman Catholic you know that and so do I - are
    you seriously telling me she would prefer a gift from an Anglican
    cathedral (St Pauls) over one from a Catholic catheral? You're kidding
    me right? Come on - the Catholic cathedral is six blocks away, it's a
    beautiful summer day so let's go!" and without further ado strode off
    leaving her to catch up to me.

    The land for the London Catholic cathedral - Westminster Cathedral -
    was given to them by Queen Victoria in the 1860s or 70s - though she
    didn't financially contribute to the construction.

    (Afterwards milady thanked me but not before the visit...)
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