• England Too Radically Islamic for the UAE

    From BTR1701@atropos@mac.com to rec.arts.tv on Fri Jan 9 19:46:23 2026
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    The United Arab Emirates announced that they will cut government funding for citizens who wish to study in the United Kingdom out of fear that Emirati students may be radicalized by Muslim Brotherhood members on British
    campuses.

    An Arab state now considers Britain such a dangerous hotbed of Islamist radicalization that it affects their national security.


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  • From Adam H. Kerman@ahk@chinet.com to rec.arts.tv on Fri Jan 9 20:28:43 2026
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    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    The United Arab Emirates announced that they will cut government funding for >citizens who wish to study in the United Kingdom out of fear that Emirati >students may be radicalized by Muslim Brotherhood members on British >campuses.

    An Arab state now considers Britain such a dangerous hotbed of Islamist >radicalization that it affects their national security.

    I can hear that extradition order for you being typed up as we speak.
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  • From moviePig@nobody@nowhere.com to rec.arts.tv on Fri Jan 9 15:29:50 2026
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    On 1/9/2026 2:46 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    The United Arab Emirates announced that they will cut government funding for citizens who wish to study in the United Kingdom out of fear that Emirati students may be radicalized by Muslim Brotherhood members on British campuses.

    An Arab state now considers Britain such a dangerous hotbed of Islamist radicalization that it affects their national security.

    Specifically, the UAE seems to be targeting the Muslim Brotherhood, who
    seeks the ascendancy of a pure Islamist state ...including in the UAE.


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  • From BTR1701@atropos@mac.com to rec.arts.tv on Fri Jan 9 20:31:43 2026
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    On Jan 9, 2026 at 12:28:43 PM PST, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    The United Arab Emirates announced that they will cut government funding for >> citizens who wish to study in the United Kingdom out of fear that Emirati
    students may be radicalized by Muslim Brotherhood members on British
    campuses.

    An Arab state now considers Britain such a dangerous hotbed of Islamist
    radicalization that it affects their national security.

    I can hear that extradition order for you being typed up as we speak.

    I'm safe because no one knows about Usenet anymore. We're that disused janitor's closet in the basement that's hidden behind stored furniture and boxes of old documents.


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  • From BTR1701@atropos@mac.com to rec.arts.tv on Fri Jan 9 20:52:52 2026
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    On Jan 9, 2026 at 12:29:50 PM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 1/9/2026 2:46 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    The United Arab Emirates announced that they will cut government funding for
    citizens who wish to study in the United Kingdom out of fear that Emirati >> students may be radicalized by Muslim Brotherhood members on British
    campuses.

    An Arab state now considers Britain such a dangerous hotbed of Islamist
    radicalization that it affects their national security.

    Specifically, the UAE seems to be targeting the Muslim Brotherhood, who seeks the ascendancy of a pure Islamist state ...including in the UAE.

    Which the UK government is literally doing nothing about. Hell, they're intentionally and actively making the problem worse with their mass 3rd-world immigration policies.


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  • From moviePig@nobody@nowhere.com to rec.arts.tv on Fri Jan 9 17:21:03 2026
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    On 1/9/2026 3:52 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Jan 9, 2026 at 12:29:50 PM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 1/9/2026 2:46 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    The United Arab Emirates announced that they will cut government funding for
    citizens who wish to study in the United Kingdom out of fear that Emirati >>> students may be radicalized by Muslim Brotherhood members on British
    campuses.

    An Arab state now considers Britain such a dangerous hotbed of Islamist >>> radicalization that it affects their national security.

    Specifically, the UAE seems to be targeting the Muslim Brotherhood, who
    seeks the ascendancy of a pure Islamist state ...including in the UAE.

    Which the UK government is literally doing nothing about. Hell, they're intentionally and actively making the problem worse with their mass 3rd-world immigration policies.

    Unless the Brotherhood advocates illegality, I don't see how the UK can censure without appearing to censor. (I suspect the UAE doesn't care.)


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  • From BTR1701@atropos@mac.com to rec.arts.tv on Sat Jan 10 00:20:14 2026
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    On Jan 9, 2026 at 2:21:03 PM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 1/9/2026 3:52 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Jan 9, 2026 at 12:29:50 PM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>
    On 1/9/2026 2:46 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    The United Arab Emirates announced that they will cut government
    funding for
    citizens who wish to study in the United Kingdom out of fear that Emirati
    students may be radicalized by Muslim Brotherhood members on British >>>> campuses.

    An Arab state now considers Britain such a dangerous hotbed of Islamist >>>> radicalization that it affects their national security.

    Specifically, the UAE seems to be targeting the Muslim Brotherhood, who >>> seeks the ascendancy of a pure Islamist state ...including in the UAE.

    Which the UK government is literally doing nothing about. Hell, they're
    intentionally and actively making the problem worse with their mass
    3rd-world
    immigration policies.

    Unless the Brotherhood advocates illegality, I don't see how the UK can censure without appearing to censor. (I suspect the UAE doesn't care.)

    The same way they're prosecuting all the white native Brits for tweets and comments, claiming they "foment racial hatred" or "cause offense".

    There are imams directly calling for the overthrow of the UK government and
    the killing of Jews and Christians and they're left alone. Not even a visit from the police, let alone a prosecution or deportation.

    But if you're a native Brit and you say, "Fuck Hamas!" on Facebook, you're thrown in prison. Hell, some native Brits have been arrested merely for saying they like bacon. But the Muslims? If you report them for far more serious things like threatening your life, let alone offending you, the police drop it the moment they realize the suspect is brown, migrant, or Muslim. They'll literally tell you, "Sorry, those people are protected."


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  • From Rhino@no_offline_contact@example.com to rec.arts.tv on Fri Jan 9 19:57:15 2026
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    On 2026-01-09 2:46 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:
    The United Arab Emirates announced that they will cut government funding for citizens who wish to study in the United Kingdom out of fear that Emirati students may be radicalized by Muslim Brotherhood members on British campuses.

    An Arab state now considers Britain such a dangerous hotbed of Islamist radicalization that it affects their national security.


    One of the things that the British government (and my own) seems to
    studiously avoid knowing is that many of the Muslim countries have very
    strict prohibitions on the Muslim Brotherhood in their own countries
    because they do NOT want their people radicalized by the Brotherhood.
    Those governments understand the danger but ours refuse to see it,
    probably out of fear of being called Islamophobic.
    --
    Rhino
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  • From moviePig@nobody@nowhere.com to rec.arts.tv on Fri Jan 9 22:38:39 2026
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    On 1/9/2026 7:20 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Jan 9, 2026 at 2:21:03 PM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 1/9/2026 3:52 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Jan 9, 2026 at 12:29:50 PM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>
    On 1/9/2026 2:46 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    The United Arab Emirates announced that they will cut government >>>>> funding for
    citizens who wish to study in the United Kingdom out of fear that Emirati
    students may be radicalized by Muslim Brotherhood members on British >>>>> campuses.

    An Arab state now considers Britain such a dangerous hotbed of Islamist
    radicalization that it affects their national security.

    Specifically, the UAE seems to be targeting the Muslim Brotherhood, who >>>> seeks the ascendancy of a pure Islamist state ...including in the UAE. >>>
    Which the UK government is literally doing nothing about. Hell, they're >>> intentionally and actively making the problem worse with their mass
    3rd-world
    immigration policies.

    Unless the Brotherhood advocates illegality, I don't see how the UK can
    censure without appearing to censor. (I suspect the UAE doesn't care.)

    The same way they're prosecuting all the white native Brits for tweets and comments, claiming they "foment racial hatred" or "cause offense".

    There are imams directly calling for the overthrow of the UK government and the killing of Jews and Christians and they're left alone. Not even a visit from the police, let alone a prosecution or deportation.

    But if you're a native Brit and you say, "Fuck Hamas!" on Facebook, you're thrown in prison. Hell, some native Brits have been arrested merely for saying
    they like bacon. But the Muslims? If you report them for far more serious things like threatening your life, let alone offending you, the police drop it
    the moment they realize the suspect is brown, migrant, or Muslim. They'll literally tell you, "Sorry, those people are protected."

    So as not to compare apples to oranges, it'd be helpful to see (which I haven't) a wriggle-free instance equivalent to "Fuck Judaism" being
    punished while "Fuck Islam" isn't. Both seem unequivocally hate speech.


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  • From BTR1701@atropos@mac.com to rec.arts.tv on Sat Jan 10 04:32:57 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.tv

    On Jan 9, 2026 at 7:38:39 PM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 1/9/2026 7:20 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Jan 9, 2026 at 2:21:03 PM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 1/9/2026 3:52 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Jan 9, 2026 at 12:29:50 PM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 1/9/2026 2:46 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    The United Arab Emirates announced that they will cut government >>>>>> funding for
    citizens who wish to study in the United Kingdom out of fear that >>>>>> Emirati
    students may be radicalized by Muslim Brotherhood members on British
    campuses.

    An Arab state now considers Britain such a dangerous hotbed of Islamist
    radicalization that it affects their national security.

    Specifically, the UAE seems to be targeting the Muslim Brotherhood, who
    seeks the ascendancy of a pure Islamist state ...including in the UAE. >>>>
    Which the UK government is literally doing nothing about. Hell, they're >>>> intentionally and actively making the problem worse with their mass >>>> 3rd-world
    immigration policies.

    Unless the Brotherhood advocates illegality, I don't see how the UK can >>> censure without appearing to censor. (I suspect the UAE doesn't care.)

    The same way they're prosecuting all the white native Brits for tweets and >> comments, claiming they "foment racial hatred" or "cause offense".

    There are imams directly calling for the overthrow of the UK government and >> the killing of Jews and Christians and they're left alone. Not even a visit >> from the police, let alone a prosecution or deportation.

    But if you're a native Brit and you say, "Fuck Hamas!" on Facebook, you're >> thrown in prison. Hell, some native Brits have been arrested merely for
    saying
    they like bacon. But the Muslims? If you report them for far more serious >> things like threatening your life, let alone offending you, the police drop >> it
    the moment they realize the suspect is brown, migrant, or Muslim. They'll >> literally tell you, "Sorry, those people are protected."

    So as not to compare apples to oranges, it'd be helpful to see (which I haven't) a wriggle-free instance equivalent to "Fuck Judaism" being
    punished while "Fuck Islam" isn't. Both seem unequivocally hate speech.

    Except the case in question wasn't "Fuck Islam", it was "Fuck Hamas". A group which the UK government itself designates a terrorist organization. So here we have the UK locking up one of its own citizens for insulting a bunch of terrorists. It's literally illegal to hurt the feelings of terrorists in the UK.


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  • From moviePig@nobody@nowhere.com to rec.arts.tv on Sat Jan 10 11:09:24 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.tv

    On 1/9/2026 11:32 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Jan 9, 2026 at 7:38:39 PM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 1/9/2026 7:20 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Jan 9, 2026 at 2:21:03 PM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>
    On 1/9/2026 3:52 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Jan 9, 2026 at 12:29:50 PM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 1/9/2026 2:46 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    The United Arab Emirates announced that they will cut government >>>>>>> funding for
    citizens who wish to study in the United Kingdom out of fear that >>>>>>> Emirati
    students may be radicalized by Muslim Brotherhood members on British
    campuses.

    An Arab state now considers Britain such a dangerous hotbed of Islamist
    radicalization that it affects their national security.

    Specifically, the UAE seems to be targeting the Muslim Brotherhood, who
    seeks the ascendancy of a pure Islamist state ...including in the UAE.

    Which the UK government is literally doing nothing about. Hell, they're
    intentionally and actively making the problem worse with their mass >>>>> 3rd-world
    immigration policies.

    Unless the Brotherhood advocates illegality, I don't see how the UK can >>>> censure without appearing to censor. (I suspect the UAE doesn't care.) >>>
    The same way they're prosecuting all the white native Brits for tweets and
    comments, claiming they "foment racial hatred" or "cause offense".

    There are imams directly calling for the overthrow of the UK government and
    the killing of Jews and Christians and they're left alone. Not even a visit
    from the police, let alone a prosecution or deportation.

    But if you're a native Brit and you say, "Fuck Hamas!" on Facebook, you're
    thrown in prison. Hell, some native Brits have been arrested merely for >>> saying
    they like bacon. But the Muslims? If you report them for far more serious >>> things like threatening your life, let alone offending you, the police drop
    it
    the moment they realize the suspect is brown, migrant, or Muslim. They'll >>> literally tell you, "Sorry, those people are protected."

    So as not to compare apples to oranges, it'd be helpful to see (which I
    haven't) a wriggle-free instance equivalent to "Fuck Judaism" being
    punished while "Fuck Islam" isn't. Both seem unequivocally hate speech.

    Except the case in question wasn't "Fuck Islam", it was "Fuck Hamas". A group which the UK government itself designates a terrorist organization. So here we
    have the UK locking up one of its own citizens for insulting a bunch of terrorists. It's literally illegal to hurt the feelings of terrorists in the UK.

    You write:

    "There are imams directly calling for the overthrow of the UK
    government and the killing of Jews and Christians and they're left
    alone. Not even a visit from the police, let alone a prosecution or deportation."

    That does sound clearly illegal. Do you have a reputable cite?


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  • From BTR1701@atropos@mac.com to rec.arts.tv on Sat Jan 10 19:02:48 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.tv

    On Jan 10, 2026 at 8:09:24 AM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 1/9/2026 11:32 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Jan 9, 2026 at 7:38:39 PM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 1/9/2026 7:20 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Jan 9, 2026 at 2:21:03 PM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 1/9/2026 3:52 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Jan 9, 2026 at 12:29:50 PM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> >>>>>> wrote:

    On 1/9/2026 2:46 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    The United Arab Emirates announced that they will cut government
    funding for
    citizens who wish to study in the United Kingdom out of fear that
    Emirati
    students may be radicalized by Muslim Brotherhood members on British
    campuses.

    An Arab state now considers Britain such a dangerous hotbed of >>>>>>>> Islamist
    radicalization that it affects their national security.

    Specifically, the UAE seems to be targeting the Muslim Brotherhood, who
    seeks the ascendancy of a pure Islamist state ...including in the UAE.

    Which the UK government is literally doing nothing about. Hell, they're
    intentionally and actively making the problem worse with their mass >>>>>> 3rd-world
    immigration policies.

    Unless the Brotherhood advocates illegality, I don't see how the UK can
    censure without appearing to censor. (I suspect the UAE doesn't care.)

    The same way they're prosecuting all the white native Brits for tweets and
    comments, claiming they "foment racial hatred" or "cause offense".

    There are imams directly calling for the overthrow of the UK government >>>> and
    the killing of Jews and Christians and they're left alone. Not even a >>>> visit
    from the police, let alone a prosecution or deportation.

    But if you're a native Brit and you say, "Fuck Hamas!" on Facebook, you're
    thrown in prison. Hell, some native Brits have been arrested merely for >>>> saying
    they like bacon. But the Muslims? If you report them for far more serious
    things like threatening your life, let alone offending you, the police >>>> drop
    it
    the moment they realize the suspect is brown, migrant, or Muslim. They'll
    literally tell you, "Sorry, those people are protected."

    So as not to compare apples to oranges, it'd be helpful to see (which I >>> haven't) a wriggle-free instance equivalent to "Fuck Judaism" being
    punished while "Fuck Islam" isn't. Both seem unequivocally hate speech. >>
    Except the case in question wasn't "Fuck Islam", it was "Fuck Hamas". A
    group
    which the UK government itself designates a terrorist organization. So here >> we
    have the UK locking up one of its own citizens for insulting a bunch of
    terrorists. It's literally illegal to hurt the feelings of terrorists in the
    UK.

    You write:

    "There are imams directly calling for the overthrow of the UK
    government and the killing of Jews and Christians and they're left
    alone. Not even a visit from the police, let alone a prosecution or deportation."

    That does sound clearly illegal. Do you have a reputable cite?

    Read up on the case of Alaa Abd el-Fattah.


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  • From moviePig@nobody@nowhere.com to rec.arts.tv on Sat Jan 10 16:36:10 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.tv

    On 1/10/2026 2:02 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Jan 10, 2026 at 8:09:24 AM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 1/9/2026 11:32 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Jan 9, 2026 at 7:38:39 PM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>
    On 1/9/2026 7:20 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Jan 9, 2026 at 2:21:03 PM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 1/9/2026 3:52 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Jan 9, 2026 at 12:29:50 PM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com>
    wrote:

    On 1/9/2026 2:46 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    The United Arab Emirates announced that they will cut government
    funding for
    citizens who wish to study in the United Kingdom out of fear that
    Emirati
    students may be radicalized by Muslim Brotherhood members on British
    campuses.

    An Arab state now considers Britain such a dangerous hotbed of
    Islamist
    radicalization that it affects their national security. >>>>>>>>
    Specifically, the UAE seems to be targeting the Muslim Brotherhood, who
    seeks the ascendancy of a pure Islamist state ...including in the UAE.

    Which the UK government is literally doing nothing about. Hell, they're
    intentionally and actively making the problem worse with their mass
    3rd-world
    immigration policies.

    Unless the Brotherhood advocates illegality, I don't see how the UK can
    censure without appearing to censor. (I suspect the UAE doesn't care.)

    The same way they're prosecuting all the white native Brits for tweets and
    comments, claiming they "foment racial hatred" or "cause offense". >>>>>
    There are imams directly calling for the overthrow of the UK government
    and
    the killing of Jews and Christians and they're left alone. Not even a >>>>> visit
    from the police, let alone a prosecution or deportation.

    But if you're a native Brit and you say, "Fuck Hamas!" on Facebook, you're
    thrown in prison. Hell, some native Brits have been arrested merely for
    saying
    they like bacon. But the Muslims? If you report them for far more serious
    things like threatening your life, let alone offending you, the police
    drop
    it
    the moment they realize the suspect is brown, migrant, or Muslim. They'll
    literally tell you, "Sorry, those people are protected."

    So as not to compare apples to oranges, it'd be helpful to see (which I >>>> haven't) a wriggle-free instance equivalent to "Fuck Judaism" being
    punished while "Fuck Islam" isn't. Both seem unequivocally hate speech. >>>
    Except the case in question wasn't "Fuck Islam", it was "Fuck Hamas". A >>> group
    which the UK government itself designates a terrorist organization. So here
    we
    have the UK locking up one of its own citizens for insulting a bunch of >>> terrorists. It's literally illegal to hurt the feelings of terrorists in the
    UK.

    You write:

    "There are imams directly calling for the overthrow of the UK
    government and the killing of Jews and Christians and they're left
    alone. Not even a visit from the police, let alone a prosecution or
    deportation."

    That does sound clearly illegal. Do you have a reputable cite?

    Read up on the case of Alaa Abd el-Fattah.

    From Wiki:

    Abd El-Fattah wrote "Looking at the tweets now rCo the ones that were
    not completely twisted out of their meaning rCo I do understand how
    shocking and hurtful they are, and for that I unequivocally apologise".
    He said that tweets allegedly showing homophobia and Holocaust denial
    were satires of such attitudes, and that he had fought for Egypt's LGBT
    and religious minority communities. The Government considered his
    apology "fairly fulsome".

    Obviously, his public contrition is unconvincing. But it's enough to
    muddy the waters for a government ostensibly prioritizing freedoms.


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  • From BTR1701@atropos@mac.com to rec.arts.tv on Sun Jan 11 02:14:33 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.tv

    On Jan 10, 2026 at 1:36:10 PM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 1/10/2026 2:02 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Jan 10, 2026 at 8:09:24 AM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>
    On 1/9/2026 11:32 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Jan 9, 2026 at 7:38:39 PM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 1/9/2026 7:20 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Jan 9, 2026 at 2:21:03 PM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 1/9/2026 3:52 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Jan 9, 2026 at 12:29:50 PM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com>
    wrote:

    On 1/9/2026 2:46 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    The United Arab Emirates announced that they will cut government
    funding for
    citizens who wish to study in the United Kingdom out of fear that
    Emirati
    students may be radicalized by Muslim Brotherhood members on British
    campuses.

    An Arab state now considers Britain such a dangerous hotbed of
    Islamist
    radicalization that it affects their national security. >>>>>>>>>
    Specifically, the UAE seems to be targeting the Muslim >>>>>>>>> Brotherhood, who
    seeks the ascendancy of a pure Islamist state ...including in the UAE.

    Which the UK government is literally doing nothing about. Hell, >>>>>>>> they're
    intentionally and actively making the problem worse with their mass
    3rd-world
    immigration policies.

    Unless the Brotherhood advocates illegality, I don't see how the UK can
    censure without appearing to censor. (I suspect the UAE doesn't care.)

    The same way they're prosecuting all the white native Brits for >>>>>> tweets and
    comments, claiming they "foment racial hatred" or "cause offense". >>>>>>
    There are imams directly calling for the overthrow of the UK government
    and
    the killing of Jews and Christians and they're left alone. Not even a
    visit
    from the police, let alone a prosecution or deportation.

    But if you're a native Brit and you say, "Fuck Hamas!" on Facebook, >>>>>> you're
    thrown in prison. Hell, some native Brits have been arrested merely for
    saying
    they like bacon. But the Muslims? If you report them for far more >>>>>> serious
    things like threatening your life, let alone offending you, the police
    drop
    it
    the moment they realize the suspect is brown, migrant, or Muslim. >>>>>> They'll
    literally tell you, "Sorry, those people are protected."

    So as not to compare apples to oranges, it'd be helpful to see (which I
    haven't) a wriggle-free instance equivalent to "Fuck Judaism" being >>>>> punished while "Fuck Islam" isn't. Both seem unequivocally hate speech.

    Except the case in question wasn't "Fuck Islam", it was "Fuck Hamas". A >>>> group
    which the UK government itself designates a terrorist organization. So >>>> here
    we
    have the UK locking up one of its own citizens for insulting a bunch of >>>> terrorists. It's literally illegal to hurt the feelings of terrorists >>>> in the
    UK.

    You write:

    "There are imams directly calling for the overthrow of the UK
    government and the killing of Jews and Christians and they're left
    alone. Not even a visit from the police, let alone a prosecution or
    deportation."

    That does sound clearly illegal. Do you have a reputable cite?

    Read up on the case of Alaa Abd el-Fattah.

    From Wiki:

    Abd El-Fattah wrote "Looking at the tweets now rCo the ones that were not completely twisted out of their meaning rCo I do understand how
    shocking and hurtful they are, and for that I unequivocally apologise".

    Did Lucy Connelly get the chance to apologize for her tweets and just move on with her life? Nope. She got dumped in the clink for two years.

    But ol' Abd, he gets to just say, "Whoops! Sorry!" and the UK government looks the other way.

    And if you believe that apology is sincere and he no longer feels that way, I have some bridges you might be interested in purchasing.

    He said that tweets allegedly showing homophobia and Holocaust denial
    were satires of such attitudes, and that he had fought for Egypt's LGBT
    and religious minority communities. The Government considered his
    apology "fairly fulsome".

    Obviously, his public contrition is unconvincing. But it's enough to
    muddy the waters for a government ostensibly prioritizing freedoms.



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  • From moviePig@nobody@nowhere.com to rec.arts.tv on Sat Jan 10 22:38:11 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.tv

    On 1/10/2026 9:14 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Jan 10, 2026 at 1:36:10 PM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 1/10/2026 2:02 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Jan 10, 2026 at 8:09:24 AM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>
    On 1/9/2026 11:32 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Jan 9, 2026 at 7:38:39 PM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 1/9/2026 7:20 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Jan 9, 2026 at 2:21:03 PM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 1/9/2026 3:52 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Jan 9, 2026 at 12:29:50 PM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com>
    wrote:

    On 1/9/2026 2:46 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    The United Arab Emirates announced that they will cut government
    funding for
    citizens who wish to study in the United Kingdom out of fear that
    Emirati
    students may be radicalized by Muslim Brotherhood members on British
    campuses.

    An Arab state now considers Britain such a dangerous hotbed of
    Islamist
    radicalization that it affects their national security. >>>>>>>>>>
    Specifically, the UAE seems to be targeting the Muslim >>>>>>>>>> Brotherhood, who
    seeks the ascendancy of a pure Islamist state ...including in the UAE.

    Which the UK government is literally doing nothing about. Hell,
    they're
    intentionally and actively making the problem worse with their mass
    3rd-world
    immigration policies.

    Unless the Brotherhood advocates illegality, I don't see how the UK can
    censure without appearing to censor. (I suspect the UAE doesn't care.)

    The same way they're prosecuting all the white native Brits for >>>>>>> tweets and
    comments, claiming they "foment racial hatred" or "cause offense".

    There are imams directly calling for the overthrow of the UK government
    and
    the killing of Jews and Christians and they're left alone. Not even a
    visit
    from the police, let alone a prosecution or deportation.

    But if you're a native Brit and you say, "Fuck Hamas!" on Facebook,
    you're
    thrown in prison. Hell, some native Brits have been arrested merely for
    saying
    they like bacon. But the Muslims? If you report them for far more >>>>>>> serious
    things like threatening your life, let alone offending you, the police
    drop
    it
    the moment they realize the suspect is brown, migrant, or Muslim. >>>>>>> They'll
    literally tell you, "Sorry, those people are protected."

    So as not to compare apples to oranges, it'd be helpful to see (which I
    haven't) a wriggle-free instance equivalent to "Fuck Judaism" being >>>>>> punished while "Fuck Islam" isn't. Both seem unequivocally hate speech.

    Except the case in question wasn't "Fuck Islam", it was "Fuck Hamas". A
    group
    which the UK government itself designates a terrorist organization. So
    here
    we
    have the UK locking up one of its own citizens for insulting a bunch of
    terrorists. It's literally illegal to hurt the feelings of terrorists >>>>> in the
    UK.

    You write:

    "There are imams directly calling for the overthrow of the UK
    government and the killing of Jews and Christians and they're left
    alone. Not even a visit from the police, let alone a prosecution or
    deportation."

    That does sound clearly illegal. Do you have a reputable cite?

    Read up on the case of Alaa Abd el-Fattah.

    From Wiki:

    Abd El-Fattah wrote "Looking at the tweets now rCo the ones that were >> not completely twisted out of their meaning rCo I do understand how
    shocking and hurtful they are, and for that I unequivocally apologise".

    Did Lucy Connelly get the chance to apologize for her tweets and just move on with her life? Nope. She got dumped in the clink for two years.

    But ol' Abd, he gets to just say, "Whoops! Sorry!" and the UK government looks
    the other way.

    And if you believe that apology is sincere and he no longer feels that way, I have some bridges you might be interested in purchasing.

    I allow that someone seems to have "made an example" of her. Likewise,
    the Muslim guy (whose apology was perhaps more a "bending of the knee")
    seems to have benefited as different "example".


    He said that tweets allegedly showing homophobia and Holocaust denial
    were satires of such attitudes, and that he had fought for Egypt's LGBT
    and religious minority communities. The Government considered his
    apology "fairly fulsome".

    Obviously, his public contrition is unconvincing. But it's enough to
    muddy the waters for a government ostensibly prioritizing freedoms.


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  • From Rhino@no_offline_contact@example.com to rec.arts.tv on Sun Jan 11 09:41:49 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.tv

    On 2026-01-10 9:14 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:
    On Jan 10, 2026 at 1:36:10 PM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 1/10/2026 2:02 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Jan 10, 2026 at 8:09:24 AM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>
    On 1/9/2026 11:32 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Jan 9, 2026 at 7:38:39 PM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 1/9/2026 7:20 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Jan 9, 2026 at 2:21:03 PM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 1/9/2026 3:52 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Jan 9, 2026 at 12:29:50 PM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com>
    wrote:

    On 1/9/2026 2:46 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    The United Arab Emirates announced that they will cut government
    funding for
    citizens who wish to study in the United Kingdom out of fear that
    Emirati
    students may be radicalized by Muslim Brotherhood members on British
    campuses.

    An Arab state now considers Britain such a dangerous hotbed of
    Islamist
    radicalization that it affects their national security. >>>>>>>>>>
    Specifically, the UAE seems to be targeting the Muslim >>>>>>>>>> Brotherhood, who
    seeks the ascendancy of a pure Islamist state ...including in the UAE.

    Which the UK government is literally doing nothing about. Hell,
    they're
    intentionally and actively making the problem worse with their mass
    3rd-world
    immigration policies.

    Unless the Brotherhood advocates illegality, I don't see how the UK can
    censure without appearing to censor. (I suspect the UAE doesn't care.)

    The same way they're prosecuting all the white native Brits for >>>>>>> tweets and
    comments, claiming they "foment racial hatred" or "cause offense".

    There are imams directly calling for the overthrow of the UK government
    and
    the killing of Jews and Christians and they're left alone. Not even a
    visit
    from the police, let alone a prosecution or deportation.

    But if you're a native Brit and you say, "Fuck Hamas!" on Facebook,
    you're
    thrown in prison. Hell, some native Brits have been arrested merely for
    saying
    they like bacon. But the Muslims? If you report them for far more >>>>>>> serious
    things like threatening your life, let alone offending you, the police
    drop
    it
    the moment they realize the suspect is brown, migrant, or Muslim. >>>>>>> They'll
    literally tell you, "Sorry, those people are protected."

    So as not to compare apples to oranges, it'd be helpful to see (which I
    haven't) a wriggle-free instance equivalent to "Fuck Judaism" being >>>>>> punished while "Fuck Islam" isn't. Both seem unequivocally hate speech.

    Except the case in question wasn't "Fuck Islam", it was "Fuck Hamas". A
    group
    which the UK government itself designates a terrorist organization. So
    here
    we
    have the UK locking up one of its own citizens for insulting a bunch of
    terrorists. It's literally illegal to hurt the feelings of terrorists >>>>> in the
    UK.

    You write:

    "There are imams directly calling for the overthrow of the UK
    government and the killing of Jews and Christians and they're left
    alone. Not even a visit from the police, let alone a prosecution or
    deportation."

    That does sound clearly illegal. Do you have a reputable cite?

    Read up on the case of Alaa Abd el-Fattah.

    From Wiki:

    Abd El-Fattah wrote "Looking at the tweets now rCo the ones that were >> not completely twisted out of their meaning rCo I do understand how
    shocking and hurtful they are, and for that I unequivocally apologise".

    Did Lucy Connelly get the chance to apologize for her tweets and just move on with her life? Nope. She got dumped in the clink for two years.

    But ol' Abd, he gets to just say, "Whoops! Sorry!" and the UK government looks
    the other way.

    And if you believe that apology is sincere and he no longer feels that way, I have some bridges you might be interested in purchasing.

    He said that tweets allegedly showing homophobia and Holocaust denial
    were satires of such attitudes, and that he had fought for Egypt's LGBT
    and religious minority communities. The Government considered his
    apology "fairly fulsome".

    Obviously, his public contrition is unconvincing. But it's enough to
    muddy the waters for a government ostensibly prioritizing freedoms.


    He and his followers have denounced the move to deport him from the UK
    as a Zionist plot. It would seem that his sentiments have NOT changed
    from what he expressed in those tweets.
    --
    Rhino
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  • From BTR1701@atropos@mac.com to rec.arts.tv on Sun Jan 11 21:43:45 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.tv

    On Jan 10, 2026 at 7:38:11 PM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 1/10/2026 9:14 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Jan 10, 2026 at 1:36:10 PM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>
    On 1/10/2026 2:02 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Jan 10, 2026 at 8:09:24 AM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 1/9/2026 11:32 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Jan 9, 2026 at 7:38:39 PM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 1/9/2026 7:20 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Jan 9, 2026 at 2:21:03 PM PST, "moviePig"
    <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    Unless the Brotherhood advocates illegality, I don't see how >>>>>>>>> the UK can
    censure without appearing to censor. (I suspect the UAE >>>>>>>>> doesn't care.)

    The same way they're prosecuting all the white native Brits for >>>>>>>> tweets and
    comments, claiming they "foment racial hatred" or "cause offense".

    There are imams directly calling for the overthrow of the UK >>>>>>>> government
    and
    the killing of Jews and Christians and they're left alone. Not even a
    visit
    from the police, let alone a prosecution or deportation. >>>>>>>>
    But if you're a native Brit and you say, "Fuck Hamas!" on Facebook,
    you're
    thrown in prison. Hell, some native Brits have been arrested >>>>>>>> merely for
    saying
    they like bacon. But the Muslims? If you report them for far more
    serious
    things like threatening your life, let alone offending you, the police
    drop
    it
    the moment they realize the suspect is brown, migrant, or Muslim.
    They'll
    literally tell you, "Sorry, those people are protected." >>>>>>>
    So as not to compare apples to oranges, it'd be helpful to see (which I
    haven't) a wriggle-free instance equivalent to "Fuck Judaism" being
    punished while "Fuck Islam" isn't. Both seem unequivocally hate speech.

    Except the case in question wasn't "Fuck Islam", it was "Fuck Hamas". A
    group
    which the UK government itself designates a terrorist organization. So
    here
    we
    have the UK locking up one of its own citizens for insulting a bunch of
    terrorists. It's literally illegal to hurt the feelings of terrorists
    in the
    UK.

    You write:

    "There are imams directly calling for the overthrow of the UK >>>>> government and the killing of Jews and Christians and they're left >>>>> alone. Not even a visit from the police, let alone a prosecution or >>>>> deportation."

    That does sound clearly illegal. Do you have a reputable cite?

    Read up on the case of Alaa Abd el-Fattah.

    From Wiki:

    Abd El-Fattah wrote "Looking at the tweets now rCo the ones that were >>> not completely twisted out of their meaning rCo I do understand how
    shocking and hurtful they are, and for that I unequivocally apologise".

    Did Lucy Connelly get the chance to apologize for her tweets and just move >> on
    with her life? Nope. She got dumped in the clink for two years.

    But ol' Abd, he gets to just say, "Whoops! Sorry!" and the UK government
    looks
    the other way.

    And if you believe that apology is sincere and he no longer feels that way, >> I
    have some bridges you might be interested in purchasing.

    I allow that someone seems to have "made an example" of her. Likewise,
    the Muslim guy (whose apology was perhaps more a "bending of the knee") seems to have benefited as different "example".

    Looks like a lot of white native Brits are being made an example, while a lot of non-native sub-Saharans and Muslims are getting that "different example" treatment.


    https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/2010276038387834880/pu/vid/avc1/576x988/GJPbsUOvv25eK2nI.mp4

    Here we have a white native Brit arrested at 4AM, in front of his cancer-stricken wife, for saying on social media that he dislikes seeing Palestinian flags everywhere.

    No threat. No violence. Just an opinion.

    This isnrCOt the democracy the government keeps claiming it is. It's totalitarianism.

    Meanwhile, Muslims in the streets are openly chanting support for Hamas, a terrorist organization, which is indirect support for the idea of mass slaughter of Jews, which is what Hamas stands for, and literally none of them are visited by the police in the middle of the night.

    How many "examples" does it take before it becomes routine policy?


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  • From moviePig@nobody@nowhere.com to rec.arts.tv on Sun Jan 11 17:07:53 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.tv

    On 1/11/2026 4:43 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Jan 10, 2026 at 7:38:11 PM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 1/10/2026 9:14 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Jan 10, 2026 at 1:36:10 PM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>
    On 1/10/2026 2:02 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Jan 10, 2026 at 8:09:24 AM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 1/9/2026 11:32 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Jan 9, 2026 at 7:38:39 PM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 1/9/2026 7:20 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Jan 9, 2026 at 2:21:03 PM PST, "moviePig"
    <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    Unless the Brotherhood advocates illegality, I don't see how >>>>>>>>>> the UK can
    censure without appearing to censor. (I suspect the UAE >>>>>>>>>> doesn't care.)

    The same way they're prosecuting all the white native Brits for
    tweets and
    comments, claiming they "foment racial hatred" or "cause offense".

    There are imams directly calling for the overthrow of the UK >>>>>>>>> government
    and
    the killing of Jews and Christians and they're left alone. Not even a
    visit
    from the police, let alone a prosecution or deportation. >>>>>>>>>
    But if you're a native Brit and you say, "Fuck Hamas!" on Facebook,
    you're
    thrown in prison. Hell, some native Brits have been arrested >>>>>>>>> merely for
    saying
    they like bacon. But the Muslims? If you report them for far more
    serious
    things like threatening your life, let alone offending you, the police
    drop
    it
    the moment they realize the suspect is brown, migrant, or Muslim.
    They'll
    literally tell you, "Sorry, those people are protected." >>>>>>>>
    So as not to compare apples to oranges, it'd be helpful to see (which I
    haven't) a wriggle-free instance equivalent to "Fuck Judaism" being
    punished while "Fuck Islam" isn't. Both seem unequivocally hate speech.

    Except the case in question wasn't "Fuck Islam", it was "Fuck Hamas". A
    group
    which the UK government itself designates a terrorist organization. So
    here
    we
    have the UK locking up one of its own citizens for insulting a bunch of
    terrorists. It's literally illegal to hurt the feelings of terrorists
    in the
    UK.

    You write:

    "There are imams directly calling for the overthrow of the UK >>>>>> government and the killing of Jews and Christians and they're left >>>>>> alone. Not even a visit from the police, let alone a prosecution or >>>>>> deportation."

    That does sound clearly illegal. Do you have a reputable cite? >>>>>
    Read up on the case of Alaa Abd el-Fattah.

    From Wiki:

    Abd El-Fattah wrote "Looking at the tweets now rCo the ones that were
    not completely twisted out of their meaning rCo I do understand how
    shocking and hurtful they are, and for that I unequivocally apologise". >>>
    Did Lucy Connelly get the chance to apologize for her tweets and just move
    on
    with her life? Nope. She got dumped in the clink for two years.

    But ol' Abd, he gets to just say, "Whoops! Sorry!" and the UK government >>> looks
    the other way.

    And if you believe that apology is sincere and he no longer feels that way,
    I
    have some bridges you might be interested in purchasing.

    I allow that someone seems to have "made an example" of her. Likewise,
    the Muslim guy (whose apology was perhaps more a "bending of the knee")
    seems to have benefited as different "example".

    Looks like a lot of white native Brits are being made an example, while a lot of non-native sub-Saharans and Muslims are getting that "different example" treatment.


    https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/2010276038387834880/pu/vid/avc1/576x988/GJPbsUOvv25eK2nI.mp4

    Here we have a white native Brit arrested at 4AM, in front of his cancer-stricken wife, for saying on social media that he dislikes seeing Palestinian flags everywhere.

    No threat. No violence. Just an opinion.

    This isnrCOt the democracy the government keeps claiming it is. It's totalitarianism.

    Meanwhile, Muslims in the streets are openly chanting support for Hamas, a terrorist organization, which is indirect support for the idea of mass slaughter of Jews, which is what Hamas stands for, and literally none of them are visited by the police in the middle of the night.

    How many "examples" does it take before it becomes routine policy?

    On it's own, I can't make clear sense of the video. If his Facebook
    post was all that he was arrested for, I'd like to see it.


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