Trump is also deploying forces against his own protesters.
Looks like things are tough all over for authoritarian leaders lately.
On 2026-01-08 9:16 p.m., super70s wrote:
Trump is also deploying forces against his own protesters.Incredible. Iran is literally shaking off nearly 50 years of Islamist occupation and you are seeing close parallels with
Looks like things are tough all over for authoritarian leaders lately.
democratically-elected Trump. If the protesters are successful, this
will be as big as the fall of the Berlin Wall and you have to try to
score partisan points.... <smh>
On Jan 8, 2026 at 6:31:36 PM PST, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
On 2026-01-08 9:16 p.m., super70s wrote:
Trump is also deploying forces against his own protesters.Incredible. Iran is literally shaking off nearly 50 years of Islamist
Looks like things are tough all over for authoritarian leaders lately. >>>
occupation and you are seeing close parallels with
democratically-elected Trump. If the protesters are successful, this
will be as big as the fall of the Berlin Wall and you have to try to
score partisan points.... <smh>
Not only that, he's not even getting the points right.
It's Tampon Tim Walz that's spinning up the Minnesota National Guard and threatening to deploy the military against federal law enforcement officers for the egregious sin of enforcing valid, democratically passed and constitutionally tested immigration law.
For years the Left has demanded that the government literally ignore the law with regard to illegal immigration and now we're seeing how far they're willing to take those demands.
Protests in Iran have gone into a 12th day with Reza Pahlavi, the Crown >Prince (son of the last Shah of Iran) is calling for his supporters -
which appears to be nearly everyone - to go to the streets to take back >their country. . . .
On 1/8/2026 9:48 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jan 8, 2026 at 6:31:36 PM PST, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> >> wrote:
On 2026-01-08 9:16 p.m., super70s wrote:
Trump is also deploying forces against his own protesters.Incredible. Iran is literally shaking off nearly 50 years of Islamist
Looks like things are tough all over for authoritarian leaders lately. >>>>
occupation and you are seeing close parallels with
democratically-elected Trump. If the protesters are successful, this
will be as big as the fall of the Berlin Wall and you have to try to
score partisan points.... <smh>
Not only that, he's not even getting the points right.
It's Tampon Tim Walz that's spinning up the Minnesota National Guard and
threatening to deploy the military against federal law enforcement officers >> for the egregious sin of enforcing valid, democratically passed and
constitutionally tested immigration law.
For years the Left has demanded that the government literally ignore the law
with regard to illegal immigration and now we're seeing how far they're
willing to take those demands.
We're biased to "ignore the law" to favor the individual. It's not new.
Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
Protests in Iran have gone into a 12th day with Reza Pahlavi, the Crown
Prince (son of the last Shah of Iran) is calling for his supporters -
which appears to be nearly everyone - to go to the streets to take back
their country. . . .
Oh. Will restoration lead to liberty? I suspect not.
Can they put
Mosaddegh back into the government?
On Jan 8, 2026 at 6:31:36 PM PST, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> >wrote:
On 2026-01-08 9:16 p.m., super70s wrote:
Trump is also deploying forces against his own protesters.Incredible. Iran is literally shaking off nearly 50 years of Islamist
Looks like things are tough all over for authoritarian leaders lately.
occupation and you are seeing close parallels with
democratically-elected Trump. If the protesters are successful, this
will be as big as the fall of the Berlin Wall and you have to try to
score partisan points.... <smh>
Not only that, he's not even getting the points right.
It's Tampon Tim Walz that's spinning up the Minnesota National Guard and >threatening to deploy the military against federal law enforcement officers >for the egregious sin of enforcing valid, democratically passed and >constitutionally tested immigration law.
For years the Left has demanded that the government literally ignore the law >with regard to illegal immigration and now we're seeing how far they're >willing to take those demands.
On 2026-01-08 10:35 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:
Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
Protests in Iran have gone into a 12th day with Reza Pahlavi, the Crown >>>Prince (son of the last Shah of Iran) is calling for his supporters - >>>which appears to be nearly everyone - to go to the streets to take back >>>their country. . . .
Oh. Will restoration lead to liberty? I suspect not.
The Crown Prince has promised that he will let them have a monarchy or >republic and be involved as much or as little as they want him. His name
and instructions to the protesters seem to have a LOT of impact with
them. The two primary themes of the protesters chants are "Death to >Khamenei" (or overthrowing the Islamist regime) and "Bring back the
King" (meaning the Crown Prince). They see the pre-1979 period in a very >positive way and want to go back to that.
Is support for the Shah universal? Probably not but apparently it is
very strong right now and they're seeing him as a symbol of the
direction they want to go in.
Some pundits have said that the fall of the Islamists will lead to the >balkanization of Iran with each of the many ethnic groups splitting off
into separate countries but the host of Tousi TV, an Iranian expat
living in the UK who has strong contacts in Iran (via Skylink), says the >various groups are pulling together against the regime, not jockeying
for position to have their own separate areas. He knows a lot more about >this than I do so I have to defer to his assessment until I know better.
Whatever follows this regime probably won't be perfect; that's the
nature of government. How free will people be? I just don't know. It's
hard to imagine things being worse but maybe my imagination just isn't >trying hard enough.
Can they put Mosaddegh back into the government?
Unless they have the power of resurrection, I don't see how. He died in >1967.
On Fri, 9 Jan 2026 02:48:06 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
wrote:
On Jan 8, 2026 at 6:31:36 PM PST, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> >> wrote:
On 2026-01-08 9:16 p.m., super70s wrote:
Trump is also deploying forces against his own protesters.Incredible. Iran is literally shaking off nearly 50 years of Islamist
Looks like things are tough all over for authoritarian leaders lately. >>>>
occupation and you are seeing close parallels with
democratically-elected Trump. If the protesters are successful, this
will be as big as the fall of the Berlin Wall and you have to try to
score partisan points.... <smh>
Not only that, he's not even getting the points right.
It's Tampon Tim Walz that's spinning up the Minnesota National Guard and
threatening to deploy the military against federal law enforcement officers >> for the egregious sin of enforcing valid, democratically passed and
constitutionally tested immigration law.
That's the message of the far right but it's not what is happening as
the National Guard gets called up in cases where there's a potential
for large scale protests.
Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
On 2026-01-08 10:35 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:
Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
Protests in Iran have gone into a 12th day with Reza Pahlavi, the Crown >>>> Prince (son of the last Shah of Iran) is calling for his supporters -
which appears to be nearly everyone - to go to the streets to take back >>>> their country. . . .
Oh. Will restoration lead to liberty? I suspect not.
The Crown Prince has promised that he will let them have a monarchy or
republic and be involved as much or as little as they want him. His name
and instructions to the protesters seem to have a LOT of impact with
them. The two primary themes of the protesters chants are "Death to
Khamenei" (or overthrowing the Islamist regime) and "Bring back the
King" (meaning the Crown Prince). They see the pre-1979 period in a very
positive way and want to go back to that.
He has the advantage of not having done anything evil in the last 4 and
a 1/2 decades.
Is support for the Shah universal? Probably not but apparently it is
very strong right now and they're seeing him as a symbol of the
direction they want to go in.
Some pundits have said that the fall of the Islamists will lead to the
balkanization of Iran with each of the many ethnic groups splitting off
into separate countries but the host of Tousi TV, an Iranian expat
living in the UK who has strong contacts in Iran (via Skylink), says the
various groups are pulling together against the regime, not jockeying
for position to have their own separate areas. He knows a lot more about
this than I do so I have to defer to his assessment until I know better.
Whatever follows this regime probably won't be perfect; that's the
nature of government. How free will people be? I just don't know. It's
hard to imagine things being worse but maybe my imagination just isn't
trying hard enough.
They can't overthrow the Islamic regime soon enough. But I don't see the Revolutionary Guard going quietly.
Can they put Mosaddegh back into the government?
Unless they have the power of resurrection, I don't see how. He died in
1967.
Just thinking how long it's been since they had a government that was popularly elected.
On Jan 8, 2026 at 7:30:33 PM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 1/8/2026 9:48 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jan 8, 2026 at 6:31:36 PM PST, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com>
wrote:
On 2026-01-08 9:16 p.m., super70s wrote:
Trump is also deploying forces against his own protesters.Incredible. Iran is literally shaking off nearly 50 years of Islamist >>>> occupation and you are seeing close parallels with
Looks like things are tough all over for authoritarian leaders lately.
democratically-elected Trump. If the protesters are successful, this >>>> will be as big as the fall of the Berlin Wall and you have to try to >>>> score partisan points.... <smh>
Not only that, he's not even getting the points right.
It's Tampon Tim Walz that's spinning up the Minnesota National Guard and >>> threatening to deploy the military against federal law enforcement officers
for the egregious sin of enforcing valid, democratically passed and
constitutionally tested immigration law.
For years the Left has demanded that the government literally ignore the law
with regard to illegal immigration and now we're seeing how far they're >>> willing to take those demands.
We're biased to "ignore the law" to favor the individual. It's not new.
Then why do we arrest people for DUI?
On 1/8/2026 10:57 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jan 8, 2026 at 7:30:33 PM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 1/8/2026 9:48 PM, BTR1701 wrote:Then why do we arrest people for DUI?
On Jan 8, 2026 at 6:31:36 PM PST, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com>
wrote:
On 2026-01-08 9:16 p.m., super70s wrote:
Trump is also deploying forces against his own protesters.Incredible. Iran is literally shaking off nearly 50 years of Islamist >>>>> occupation and you are seeing close parallels with
Looks like things are tough all over for authoritarian leaders lately.
democratically-elected Trump. If the protesters are successful, this >>>>> will be as big as the fall of the Berlin Wall and you have to try to >>>>> score partisan points.... <smh>
Not only that, he's not even getting the points right.
It's Tampon Tim Walz that's spinning up the Minnesota National Guard and
threatening to deploy the military against federal law enforcement
officers
for the egregious sin of enforcing valid, democratically passed and >>>> constitutionally tested immigration law.
For years the Left has demanded that the government literally ignore >>>> the law
with regard to illegal immigration and now we're seeing how far they're >>>> willing to take those demands.
We're biased to "ignore the law" to favor the individual. It's not new. >>
For the same reason(ing) we arrest drunks firing pistols at the moon. In such instances, we're favoring not impersonal government statute, but individuals who happen to be in the immediate vicinity.
On Jan 9, 2026 at 7:52:01 AM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 1/8/2026 10:57 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jan 8, 2026 at 7:30:33 PM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>
On 1/8/2026 9:48 PM, BTR1701 wrote:Then why do we arrest people for DUI?
On Jan 8, 2026 at 6:31:36 PM PST, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com>
wrote:
On 2026-01-08 9:16 p.m., super70s wrote:
Trump is also deploying forces against his own protesters. >>>>>>>Incredible. Iran is literally shaking off nearly 50 years of Islamist
Looks like things are tough all over for authoritarian leaders lately.
occupation and you are seeing close parallels with
democratically-elected Trump. If the protesters are successful, this >>>>>> will be as big as the fall of the Berlin Wall and you have to try to >>>>>> score partisan points.... <smh>
Not only that, he's not even getting the points right.
It's Tampon Tim Walz that's spinning up the Minnesota National Guard and
threatening to deploy the military against federal law enforcement >>>>> officers
for the egregious sin of enforcing valid, democratically passed and >>>>> constitutionally tested immigration law.
For years the Left has demanded that the government literally ignore >>>>> the law
with regard to illegal immigration and now we're seeing how far they're
willing to take those demands.
We're biased to "ignore the law" to favor the individual. It's not new. >>>
For the same reason(ing) we arrest drunks firing pistols at the moon. In
such instances, we're favoring not impersonal government statute, but
individuals who happen to be in the immediate vicinity.
So we're only concerned about the victims of crime if the happen to be within shouting distance?
On Jan 9, 2026 at 7:52:01 AM PST, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 1/8/2026 10:57 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jan 8, 2026 at 7:30:33 PM PST, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>>On 1/8/2026 9:48 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
. . .
Not only that, he's not even getting the points right.
It's Tampon Tim Walz that's spinning up the Minnesota National
Guard and threatening to deploy the military against federal law >>>>>enforcement officers for the egregious sin of enforcing valid, >>>>>democratically passed and constitutionally tested immigration law.
For years the Left has demanded that the government literally ignore >>>>>the law with regard to illegal immigration and now we're seeing how >>>>>far they're willing to take those demands.
We're biased to "ignore the law" to favor the individual. It's not new.
Then why do we arrest people for DUI?
For the same reason(ing) we arrest drunks firing pistols at the moon. In >>such instances, we're favoring not impersonal government statute, but >>individuals who happen to be in the immediate vicinity.
So we're only concerned about the victims of crime if the happen to be within >shouting distance?
On 1/9/2026 1:58 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jan 9, 2026 at 7:52:01 AM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 1/8/2026 10:57 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jan 8, 2026 at 7:30:33 PM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 1/8/2026 9:48 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jan 8, 2026 at 6:31:36 PM PST, "Rhino"
<no_offline_contact@example.com>
wrote:
On 2026-01-08 9:16 p.m., super70s wrote:
Trump is also deploying forces against his own protesters. >>>>>>>>Incredible. Iran is literally shaking off nearly 50 years of Islamist
Looks like things are tough all over for authoritarian leaders lately.
occupation and you are seeing close parallels with
democratically-elected Trump. If the protesters are successful, this
will be as big as the fall of the Berlin Wall and you have to try to
score partisan points.... <smh>
Not only that, he's not even getting the points right.
It's Tampon Tim Walz that's spinning up the Minnesota National Guard and
threatening to deploy the military against federal law enforcement >>>>>> officers
for the egregious sin of enforcing valid, democratically passed and >>>>>> constitutionally tested immigration law.
For years the Left has demanded that the government literally ignore
the law
with regard to illegal immigration and now we're seeing how far they're
willing to take those demands.
We're biased to "ignore the law" to favor the individual. It's not new.
Then why do we arrest people for DUI?
For the same reason(ing) we arrest drunks firing pistols at the moon. In >>> such instances, we're favoring not impersonal government statute, but
individuals who happen to be in the immediate vicinity.
So we're only concerned about the victims of crime if they happen to be
within
shouting distance?
https://quotefancy.com/media/wallpaper/1600x900/359853-Joseph-Stalin-Quote-A-single-death-is-a-tragedy-a-million-deaths.jpg
On Jan 9, 2026 at 11:59:29 AM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 1/9/2026 1:58 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jan 9, 2026 at 7:52:01 AM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>
On 1/8/2026 10:57 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jan 8, 2026 at 7:30:33 PM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 1/8/2026 9:48 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jan 8, 2026 at 6:31:36 PM PST, "Rhino"
<no_offline_contact@example.com>
wrote:
On 2026-01-08 9:16 p.m., super70s wrote:
Trump is also deploying forces against his own protesters. >>>>>>>>>Incredible. Iran is literally shaking off nearly 50 years of Islamist
Looks like things are tough all over for authoritarian leaders lately.
occupation and you are seeing close parallels with
democratically-elected Trump. If the protesters are successful, this
will be as big as the fall of the Berlin Wall and you have to try to
score partisan points.... <smh>
Not only that, he's not even getting the points right.
It's Tampon Tim Walz that's spinning up the Minnesota National Guard and
threatening to deploy the military against federal law enforcement
officers
for the egregious sin of enforcing valid, democratically passed and
constitutionally tested immigration law.
For years the Left has demanded that the government literally ignore
the law
with regard to illegal immigration and now we're seeing how far they're
willing to take those demands.
We're biased to "ignore the law" to favor the individual. It's not new.
Then why do we arrest people for DUI?
For the same reason(ing) we arrest drunks firing pistols at the moon. In >>>> such instances, we're favoring not impersonal government statute, but >>>> individuals who happen to be in the immediate vicinity.
So we're only concerned about the victims of crime if they happen to be >>> within
shouting distance?
https://quotefancy.com/media/wallpaper/1600x900/359853-Joseph-Stalin-Quote-A-single-death-is-a-tragedy-a-million-deaths.jpg
Most people see that quote as an example of moral bankruptcy, not a philosophy
on which to base a law enforcement system.
On Fri, 9 Jan 2026 02:48:06 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
wrote:
On Jan 8, 2026 at 6:31:36 PM PST, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> >> wrote:
On 2026-01-08 9:16 p.m., super70s wrote:
Trump is also deploying forces against his own protesters.Incredible. Iran is literally shaking off nearly 50 years of Islamist
Looks like things are tough all over for authoritarian leaders lately. >>>>
occupation and you are seeing close parallels with
democratically-elected Trump. If the protesters are successful, this
will be as big as the fall of the Berlin Wall and you have to try to
score partisan points.... <smh>
Not only that, he's not even getting the points right.
It's Tampon Tim Walz that's spinning up the Minnesota National Guard and
threatening to deploy the military against federal law enforcement officers >> for the egregious sin of enforcing valid, democratically passed and
constitutionally tested immigration law.
That's the message of the far right but it's not what is happening as
the National Guard gets called up in cases where there's a potential
for large scale protests. Protests where some people will turn
violent.
If the protesters win - which I want VERY MUCH - Americans will be
seeing a complete change in the official line of Iran. They'll go from
being the Great Satan to the Great Saviour!
BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
"Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
On 2026-01-08 9:16 p.m., super70s wrote:
Trump is also deploying forces against his own protesters.Incredible. Iran is literally shaking off nearly 50 years of Islamist
Looks like things are tough all over for authoritarian leaders lately. >>>
occupation and you are seeing close parallels with
democratically-elected Trump. If the protesters are successful, this
will be as big as the fall of the Berlin Wall and you have to try to
score partisan points.... <smh>
Not only that, he's not even getting the points right.
It's Tampon Tim Walz that's spinning up the Minnesota National Guard and >>threatening to deploy the military against federal law enforcement officers >>for the egregious sin of enforcing valid, democratically passed and >>constitutionally tested immigration law.
That's the message of the far right but it's not what is happening
Trump is also deploying forces against his own protesters.
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