• Mamdani: White People are Going to Have "A Different Relationship to Property" Now

    From BTR1701@atropos@mac.com to rec.arts.tv on Mon Jan 5 19:04:18 2026
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    Mamdani's Director of Tenancy, Cea Weaver, says NYC will transition private property to being a "collective good". This will apply not just to commercial residential buildings but individual homes as well.

    She says, "It will mean that especially white families are going have a different relationship to property than the one we currently have."

    In other words, she's going to try to take your house away from you and make
    it a public resource.


    https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/2008031252692025344/vid/avc1/1896x1080/e4HvOku0n8aLV3qR.mp4

    The 5th Amendment will have something to say about that, comrade. NYC might have elected a communist, but its government still has to obey the Constitution. And after the Justice Department is done with her, Cea Weaver will likely have a different relationship with her job than she currently
    has.


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  • From Rhino@no_offline_contact@example.com to rec.arts.tv on Mon Jan 5 16:25:13 2026
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    On 2026-01-05 2:04 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:
    Mamdani's Director of Tenancy, Cea Weaver, says NYC will transition private property to being a "collective good". This will apply not just to commercial residential buildings but individual homes as well.

    She says, "It will mean that especially white families are going have a different relationship to property than the one we currently have."

    In other words, she's going to try to take your house away from you and make it a public resource.


    https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/2008031252692025344/vid/avc1/1896x1080/e4HvOku0n8aLV3qR.mp4

    The 5th Amendment will have something to say about that, comrade. NYC might have elected a communist, but its government still has to obey the Constitution. And after the Justice Department is done with her, Cea Weaver will likely have a different relationship with her job than she currently has.


    In the days after Lenin seized power in 1917, people with houses soon
    found themselves sharing them with people who had previously had rather
    poorer housing. It wasn't a voluntary thing. Homes for single families
    became improvised apartment buildings, typically with whole families
    assigned to a single small room, with just enough room for a bed or two
    and not much more. Kitchens and bathrooms became shared property with
    everyone getting assigned times to cook. (I'm not sure if they assigned
    times for bathroom breaks.) This pattern persisted for DECADES, not just
    a year or two. It was only in the 50s with Stalin dead that the
    authorities finally started building "Krushchovkas" (named after
    Stalin's successor Krushchev), standard-pattern 5 storey apartment
    blocks with paper-thin walls and elevators that almost never worked.
    These buildings still form the bulk of housing throughout Russia and its former republics and satellites, where they are usually called "Commie
    blocks" by English-speakers - and English-speaking Russians.

    It sounds to me like Mamdani plans to do the same in NYC.
    --
    Rhino
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  • From BTR1701@atropos@mac.com to rec.arts.tv on Mon Jan 5 21:30:08 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.tv

    On Jan 5, 2026 at 1:25:13 PM PST, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    On 2026-01-05 2:04 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:
    Mamdani's Director of Tenancy, Cea Weaver, says NYC will transition private >> property to being a "collective good". This will apply not just to
    commercial
    residential buildings but individual homes as well.

    She says, "It will mean that especially white families are going have a
    different relationship to property than the one we currently have."

    In other words, she's going to try to take your house away from you and make
    it a public resource.



    https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/2008031252692025344/vid/avc1/1896x1080/e4HvOku0n8aLV3qR.mp4

    The 5th Amendment will have something to say about that, comrade. NYC might >> have elected a communist, but its government still has to obey the
    Constitution. And after the Justice Department is done with her, Cea Weaver >> will likely have a different relationship with her job than she currently >> has.


    In the days after Lenin seized power in 1917, people with houses soon
    found themselves sharing them with people who had previously had rather poorer housing. It wasn't a voluntary thing. Homes for single families became improvised apartment buildings, typically with whole families assigned to a single small room, with just enough room for a bed or two
    and not much more. Kitchens and bathrooms became shared property with everyone getting assigned times to cook. (I'm not sure if they assigned times for bathroom breaks.) This pattern persisted for DECADES, not just
    a year or two. It was only in the 50s with Stalin dead that the
    authorities finally started building "Krushchovkas" (named after
    Stalin's successor Krushchev), standard-pattern 5 storey apartment
    blocks with paper-thin walls and elevators that almost never worked.
    These buildings still form the bulk of housing throughout Russia and its former republics and satellites, where they are usually called "Commie blocks" by English-speakers - and English-speaking Russians.

    It sounds to me like Mamdani plans to do the same in NYC.

    Not only will all of this violate the 4th and 5th Amendments but the 14th as well, since his exciting new collectivist plans have an overt racial element
    to them.

    And if he's not careful, he and his minions might also run smack into the true purpose of the 2nd Amendment.


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  • From Rhino@no_offline_contact@example.com to rec.arts.tv on Mon Jan 5 17:36:54 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.tv

    On 2026-01-05 4:30 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:
    On Jan 5, 2026 at 1:25:13 PM PST, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    On 2026-01-05 2:04 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:
    Mamdani's Director of Tenancy, Cea Weaver, says NYC will transition private
    property to being a "collective good". This will apply not just to
    commercial
    residential buildings but individual homes as well.

    She says, "It will mean that especially white families are going have a >>> different relationship to property than the one we currently have."

    In other words, she's going to try to take your house away from you and make
    it a public resource.



    https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/2008031252692025344/vid/avc1/1896x1080/e4HvOku0n8aLV3qR.mp4

    The 5th Amendment will have something to say about that, comrade. NYC might
    have elected a communist, but its government still has to obey the
    Constitution. And after the Justice Department is done with her, Cea Weaver
    will likely have a different relationship with her job than she currently >>> has.


    In the days after Lenin seized power in 1917, people with houses soon
    found themselves sharing them with people who had previously had rather
    poorer housing. It wasn't a voluntary thing. Homes for single families
    became improvised apartment buildings, typically with whole families
    assigned to a single small room, with just enough room for a bed or two
    and not much more. Kitchens and bathrooms became shared property with
    everyone getting assigned times to cook. (I'm not sure if they assigned
    times for bathroom breaks.) This pattern persisted for DECADES, not just
    a year or two. It was only in the 50s with Stalin dead that the
    authorities finally started building "Krushchovkas" (named after
    Stalin's successor Krushchev), standard-pattern 5 storey apartment
    blocks with paper-thin walls and elevators that almost never worked.
    These buildings still form the bulk of housing throughout Russia and its
    former republics and satellites, where they are usually called "Commie
    blocks" by English-speakers - and English-speaking Russians.

    It sounds to me like Mamdani plans to do the same in NYC.

    Not only will all of this violate the 4th and 5th Amendments but the 14th as well, since his exciting new collectivist plans have an overt racial element to them.

    And if he's not careful, he and his minions might also run smack into the true
    purpose of the 2nd Amendment.


    Here's hoping!

    I'm having trouble imagining him moving homeless people into ordinary
    family homes, let alone the mansions of the rich. I don't think
    Americans will stand for that. The lawyers will be drooling for the
    chance to take this to court to get some easy wins - and I don't mean
    the lawyers for the city!
    --
    Rhino
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  • From shawn@nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com to rec.arts.tv on Mon Jan 5 19:37:02 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.tv

    On Mon, 5 Jan 2026 17:36:54 -0500, Rhino
    <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    On 2026-01-05 4:30 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:
    On Jan 5, 2026 at 1:25:13 PM PST, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> >> wrote:

    On 2026-01-05 2:04 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:
    Mamdani's Director of Tenancy, Cea Weaver, says NYC will transition private
    property to being a "collective good". This will apply not just to
    commercial
    residential buildings but individual homes as well.

    She says, "It will mean that especially white families are going have a >>>> different relationship to property than the one we currently have."

    In other words, she's going to try to take your house away from you and make
    it a public resource.



    https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/2008031252692025344/vid/avc1/1896x1080/e4HvOku0n8aLV3qR.mp4

    The 5th Amendment will have something to say about that, comrade. NYC might
    have elected a communist, but its government still has to obey the
    Constitution. And after the Justice Department is done with her, Cea Weaver
    will likely have a different relationship with her job than she currently
    has.


    In the days after Lenin seized power in 1917, people with houses soon
    found themselves sharing them with people who had previously had rather
    poorer housing. It wasn't a voluntary thing. Homes for single families
    became improvised apartment buildings, typically with whole families
    assigned to a single small room, with just enough room for a bed or two
    and not much more. Kitchens and bathrooms became shared property with
    everyone getting assigned times to cook. (I'm not sure if they assigned
    times for bathroom breaks.) This pattern persisted for DECADES, not just >>> a year or two. It was only in the 50s with Stalin dead that the
    authorities finally started building "Krushchovkas" (named after
    Stalin's successor Krushchev), standard-pattern 5 storey apartment
    blocks with paper-thin walls and elevators that almost never worked.
    These buildings still form the bulk of housing throughout Russia and its >>> former republics and satellites, where they are usually called "Commie
    blocks" by English-speakers - and English-speaking Russians.

    It sounds to me like Mamdani plans to do the same in NYC.

    Not only will all of this violate the 4th and 5th Amendments but the 14th as >> well, since his exciting new collectivist plans have an overt racial element >> to them.

    And if he's not careful, he and his minions might also run smack into the true
    purpose of the 2nd Amendment.


    Here's hoping!

    I'm having trouble imagining him moving homeless people into ordinary
    family homes, let alone the mansions of the rich. I don't think
    Americans will stand for that. The lawyers will be drooling for the
    chance to take this to court to get some easy wins - and I don't mean
    the lawyers for the city!

    That's because it would never happen. What might, but probably won't,
    happen is to use the places that are unoccupied as temporary housing.
    Imagine empty office buildings or other places that may have set empty
    for years being re purposed.
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  • From Rhino@no_offline_contact@example.com to rec.arts.tv on Mon Jan 5 19:50:25 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.tv

    On 2026-01-05 7:37 p.m., shawn wrote:
    On Mon, 5 Jan 2026 17:36:54 -0500, Rhino
    <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    On 2026-01-05 4:30 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:
    On Jan 5, 2026 at 1:25:13 PM PST, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> >>> wrote:

    On 2026-01-05 2:04 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:
    Mamdani's Director of Tenancy, Cea Weaver, says NYC will transition private
    property to being a "collective good". This will apply not just to >>>>> commercial
    residential buildings but individual homes as well.

    She says, "It will mean that especially white families are going have a
    different relationship to property than the one we currently have." >>>>>
    In other words, she's going to try to take your house away from you and make
    it a public resource.



    https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/2008031252692025344/vid/avc1/1896x1080/e4HvOku0n8aLV3qR.mp4

    The 5th Amendment will have something to say about that, comrade. NYC might
    have elected a communist, but its government still has to obey the >>>>> Constitution. And after the Justice Department is done with her, Cea Weaver
    will likely have a different relationship with her job than she currently
    has.


    In the days after Lenin seized power in 1917, people with houses soon
    found themselves sharing them with people who had previously had rather >>>> poorer housing. It wasn't a voluntary thing. Homes for single families >>>> became improvised apartment buildings, typically with whole families
    assigned to a single small room, with just enough room for a bed or two >>>> and not much more. Kitchens and bathrooms became shared property with
    everyone getting assigned times to cook. (I'm not sure if they assigned >>>> times for bathroom breaks.) This pattern persisted for DECADES, not just >>>> a year or two. It was only in the 50s with Stalin dead that the
    authorities finally started building "Krushchovkas" (named after
    Stalin's successor Krushchev), standard-pattern 5 storey apartment
    blocks with paper-thin walls and elevators that almost never worked.
    These buildings still form the bulk of housing throughout Russia and its >>>> former republics and satellites, where they are usually called "Commie >>>> blocks" by English-speakers - and English-speaking Russians.

    It sounds to me like Mamdani plans to do the same in NYC.

    Not only will all of this violate the 4th and 5th Amendments but the 14th as
    well, since his exciting new collectivist plans have an overt racial element
    to them.

    And if he's not careful, he and his minions might also run smack into the true
    purpose of the 2nd Amendment.


    Here's hoping!

    I'm having trouble imagining him moving homeless people into ordinary
    family homes, let alone the mansions of the rich. I don't think
    Americans will stand for that. The lawyers will be drooling for the
    chance to take this to court to get some easy wins - and I don't mean
    the lawyers for the city!

    That's because it would never happen. What might, but probably won't,
    happen is to use the places that are unoccupied as temporary housing.
    Imagine empty office buildings or other places that may have set empty
    for years being re purposed.

    That sounds more plausible to me although even here he would face legal challenges. Even if a given building has stood vacant for years and
    could be renovated into decent housing, somebody owns those buildings
    and I feel sure they will object to their property being expropriated.
    They should have the full backing of the Constitution and laws of your country. Now, obviously, expropriations of private property are legal
    under limited circumstances but the owner still has recourse to the
    courts as I understand it. If Mamdani wins those cases, then his expropriations are legal and can proceed.
    --
    Rhino
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  • From BTR1701@atropos@mac.com to rec.arts.tv on Tue Jan 6 02:47:21 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.tv

    On Jan 5, 2026 at 4:37:02 PM PST, "shawn" <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

    On Mon, 5 Jan 2026 17:36:54 -0500, Rhino
    <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    On 2026-01-05 4:30 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:
    On Jan 5, 2026 at 1:25:13 PM PST, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> >>> wrote:

    On 2026-01-05 2:04 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:
    Mamdani's Director of Tenancy, Cea Weaver, says NYC will transition >>>>> private
    property to being a "collective good". This will apply not just to >>>>> commercial
    residential buildings but individual homes as well.

    She says, "It will mean that especially white families are going have a
    different relationship to property than the one we currently have." >>>>>
    In other words, she's going to try to take your house away from you >>>>> and make
    it a public resource.




    https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/2008031252692025344/vid/avc1/1896x1080/e4HvOku0n8aLV3qR.mp4

    The 5th Amendment will have something to say about that, comrade. NYC >>>>> might
    have elected a communist, but its government still has to obey the >>>>> Constitution. And after the Justice Department is done with her, Cea >>>>> Weaver
    will likely have a different relationship with her job than she currently
    has.


    In the days after Lenin seized power in 1917, people with houses soon >>>> found themselves sharing them with people who had previously had rather >>>> poorer housing. It wasn't a voluntary thing. Homes for single families >>>> became improvised apartment buildings, typically with whole families
    assigned to a single small room, with just enough room for a bed or two >>>> and not much more. Kitchens and bathrooms became shared property with >>>> everyone getting assigned times to cook. (I'm not sure if they assigned >>>> times for bathroom breaks.) This pattern persisted for DECADES, not just >>>> a year or two. It was only in the 50s with Stalin dead that the
    authorities finally started building "Krushchovkas" (named after
    Stalin's successor Krushchev), standard-pattern 5 storey apartment
    blocks with paper-thin walls and elevators that almost never worked.
    These buildings still form the bulk of housing throughout Russia and its >>>> former republics and satellites, where they are usually called "Commie >>>> blocks" by English-speakers - and English-speaking Russians.

    It sounds to me like Mamdani plans to do the same in NYC.

    Not only will all of this violate the 4th and 5th Amendments but the 14th as
    well, since his exciting new collectivist plans have an overt racial element
    to them.

    And if he's not careful, he and his minions might also run smack into the >>> true
    purpose of the 2nd Amendment.


    Here's hoping!

    I'm having trouble imagining him moving homeless people into ordinary
    family homes, let alone the mansions of the rich. I don't think
    Americans will stand for that. The lawyers will be drooling for the
    chance to take this to court to get some easy wins - and I don't mean
    the lawyers for the city!

    That's because it would never happen. What might, but probably won't,
    happen is to use the places that are unoccupied as temporary housing.
    Imagine empty office buildings or other places that may have set empty
    for years being re purposed.

    If I own a house and I want, for whatever reason, to leave it empty for a period of time, that's none of the government's goddam business. It's *my* house. I can rent it, live in it, leave it empty, let my kid stay in it for free, or bulldoze it to the ground. Mam-fuckin'-dani doesn't get a say.


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  • From BTR1701@atropos@mac.com to rec.arts.tv on Tue Jan 6 02:49:37 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.tv

    On Jan 5, 2026 at 4:50:25 PM PST, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    On 2026-01-05 7:37 p.m., shawn wrote:
    On Mon, 5 Jan 2026 17:36:54 -0500, Rhino
    <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    On 2026-01-05 4:30 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:
    On Jan 5, 2026 at 1:25:13 PM PST, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com>
    wrote:

    On 2026-01-05 2:04 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:
    Mamdani's Director of Tenancy, Cea Weaver, says NYC will transition >>>>>> private
    property to being a "collective good". This will apply not just to >>>>>> commercial
    residential buildings but individual homes as well.

    She says, "It will mean that especially white families are going have a
    different relationship to property than the one we currently have." >>>>>>
    In other words, she's going to try to take your house away from you >>>>>> and make
    it a public resource.




    https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/2008031252692025344/vid/avc1/1896x1080/e4HvOku0n8aLV3qR.mp4

    The 5th Amendment will have something to say about that, comrade. >>>>>> NYC might
    have elected a communist, but its government still has to obey the >>>>>> Constitution. And after the Justice Department is done with her, Cea >>>>>> Weaver
    will likely have a different relationship with her job than she currently
    has.


    In the days after Lenin seized power in 1917, people with houses soon >>>>> found themselves sharing them with people who had previously had rather >>>>> poorer housing. It wasn't a voluntary thing. Homes for single families >>>>> became improvised apartment buildings, typically with whole families >>>>> assigned to a single small room, with just enough room for a bed or two >>>>> and not much more. Kitchens and bathrooms became shared property with >>>>> everyone getting assigned times to cook. (I'm not sure if they assigned >>>>> times for bathroom breaks.) This pattern persisted for DECADES, not just >>>>> a year or two. It was only in the 50s with Stalin dead that the
    authorities finally started building "Krushchovkas" (named after
    Stalin's successor Krushchev), standard-pattern 5 storey apartment
    blocks with paper-thin walls and elevators that almost never worked. >>>>> These buildings still form the bulk of housing throughout Russia and its >>>>> former republics and satellites, where they are usually called "Commie >>>>> blocks" by English-speakers - and English-speaking Russians.

    It sounds to me like Mamdani plans to do the same in NYC.

    Not only will all of this violate the 4th and 5th Amendments but the 14th as
    well, since his exciting new collectivist plans have an overt racial element
    to them.

    And if he's not careful, he and his minions might also run smack into the >>>> true
    purpose of the 2nd Amendment.


    Here's hoping!

    I'm having trouble imagining him moving homeless people into ordinary
    family homes, let alone the mansions of the rich. I don't think
    Americans will stand for that. The lawyers will be drooling for the
    chance to take this to court to get some easy wins - and I don't mean
    the lawyers for the city!

    That's because it would never happen. What might, but probably won't,
    happen is to use the places that are unoccupied as temporary housing.
    Imagine empty office buildings or other places that may have set empty
    for years being re purposed.

    That sounds more plausible to me although even here he would face legal challenges. Even if a given building has stood vacant for years and
    could be renovated into decent housing, somebody owns those buildings
    and I feel sure they will object to their property being expropriated.
    They should have the full backing of the Constitution and laws of your country. Now, obviously, expropriations of private property are legal
    under limited circumstances but the owner still has recourse to the
    courts as I understand it.

    Not only that, even if the owner loses the eminent domain case, the government still is required under the 5th Amendment to pay fair market value for what it takes. Not sure where Comrade Mamdani thinks he's going to find the billions (or even trillions) it would take to reimburse everyone he plans on stealing from.


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  • From Adam H. Kerman@ahk@chinet.com to rec.arts.tv on Tue Jan 6 06:05:01 2026
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    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    . . .

    If I own a house and I want, for whatever reason, to leave it empty for a >period of time, that's none of the government's goddam business. It's *my* >house. I can rent it, live in it, leave it empty, let my kid stay in it for >free, or bulldoze it to the ground. Mam-fuckin'-dani doesn't get a say.

    The government completely intrudes on your life. Socialism never goes
    away.

    Your typical homeowner, not in a homeowners' association, owns the land
    as fee simple. This includes a bundle of rights, but not all rights. You
    don't own your air space, which is a good thing with respect to flights thousands of feet above but a bad thing when it comes to drone
    surveillance. You don't own mineral rights, so you can't dig for
    petroleum nor rare earth elements.

    Let's say you want to use your own land to its highest and best use. Say there's a major transportation facility nearby and your land might be desireable for commercial/industrial use or multi-family housing. But
    your land is zoned single family preventing you from redeveloping it.

    No court ever ruled that deliberate downzoning by the municipality or
    county is a taking. It should be.

    Mamdani or not, you are not free to do what you wish with your own land.
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  • From BTR1701@atropos@mac.com to rec.arts.tv on Tue Jan 6 17:50:48 2026
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    On Jan 5, 2026 at 10:05:01 PM PST, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    . . .

    If I own a house and I want, for whatever reason, to leave it empty for a
    period of time, that's none of the government's goddam business. It's *my* >> house. I can rent it, live in it, leave it empty, let my kid stay in it for >> free, or bulldoze it to the ground. Mam-fuckin'-dani doesn't get a say.

    The government completely intrudes on your life. Socialism never goes
    away.

    Your typical homeowner, not in a homeowners' association, owns the land
    as fee simple. This includes a bundle of rights, but not all rights. You don't own your air space, which is a good thing with respect to flights thousands of feet above but a bad thing when it comes to drone
    surveillance. You don't own mineral rights, so you can't dig for
    petroleum nor rare earth elements.

    Let's say you want to use your own land to its highest and best use. Say there's a major transportation facility nearby and your land might be desireable for commercial/industrial use or multi-family housing. But
    your land is zoned single family preventing you from redeveloping it.

    No court ever ruled that deliberate downzoning by the municipality or
    county is a taking. It should be.

    Mamdani or not, you are not free to do what you wish with your own land.

    I said house, not land.


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  • From Adam H. Kerman@ahk@chinet.com to rec.arts.tv on Tue Jan 6 18:00:06 2026
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    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
    On Jan 5, 2026 at 10:05:01 PM PST, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    . . .

    If I own a house and I want, for whatever reason, to leave it empty for a >>> period of time, that's none of the government's goddam business. It's *my* >>> house. I can rent it, live in it, leave it empty, let my kid stay in it for >>> free, or bulldoze it to the ground. Mam-fuckin'-dani doesn't get a say.

    The government completely intrudes on your life. Socialism never goes
    away.

    Your typical homeowner, not in a homeowners' association, owns the land
    as fee simple. This includes a bundle of rights, but not all rights. You
    don't own your air space, which is a good thing with respect to flights
    thousands of feet above but a bad thing when it comes to drone
    surveillance. You don't own mineral rights, so you can't dig for
    petroleum nor rare earth elements.

    Let's say you want to use your own land to its highest and best use. Say
    there's a major transportation facility nearby and your land might be
    desireable for commercial/industrial use or multi-family housing. But
    your land is zoned single family preventing you from redeveloping it.

    No court ever ruled that deliberate downzoning by the municipality or
    county is a taking. It should be.

    Mamdani or not, you are not free to do what you wish with your own land.

    I said house, not land.

    Let's say the house isn't building code compliant. You may be denied
    permission to live there during renovation. They can slow walk building
    permits and raise irrelevancies during inspection or even shut the work
    down. They can add so many unnecessary expenses to the project that it's
    too costly to perform the work.

    There are communities with appearance review codes.

    Rent? You may need a permit, and short-term rentals may be denied since
    the onus is on you to prove that the short term traveller isn't there to
    have a very loud party or harm the neighborhood.

    Demolition? No permit; your house is historic.
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From BTR1701@atropos@mac.com to rec.arts.tv on Tue Jan 6 18:07:04 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.tv

    On Jan 6, 2026 at 10:00:06 AM PST, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
    On Jan 5, 2026 at 10:05:01 PM PST, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    . . .

    If I own a house and I want, for whatever reason, to leave it empty for a >>>> period of time, that's none of the government's goddam business. It's *my*
    house. I can rent it, live in it, leave it empty, let my kid stay in it for
    free, or bulldoze it to the ground. Mam-fuckin'-dani doesn't get a say. >>>
    The government completely intrudes on your life. Socialism never goes
    away.

    Your typical homeowner, not in a homeowners' association, owns the land >>> as fee simple. This includes a bundle of rights, but not all rights. You >>> don't own your air space, which is a good thing with respect to flights >>> thousands of feet above but a bad thing when it comes to drone
    surveillance. You don't own mineral rights, so you can't dig for
    petroleum nor rare earth elements.

    Let's say you want to use your own land to its highest and best use. Say >>> there's a major transportation facility nearby and your land might be
    desireable for commercial/industrial use or multi-family housing. But
    your land is zoned single family preventing you from redeveloping it.

    No court ever ruled that deliberate downzoning by the municipality or
    county is a taking. It should be.

    Mamdani or not, you are not free to do what you wish with your own land. >>
    I said house, not land.

    Let's say the house isn't building code compliant. You may be denied permission to live there during renovation. They can slow walk building permits and raise irrelevancies during inspection or even shut the work
    down. They can add so many unnecessary expenses to the project that it's
    too costly to perform the work.

    There are communities with appearance review codes.

    Rent? You may need a permit, and short-term rentals may be denied since
    the onus is on you to prove that the short term traveller isn't there to
    have a very loud party or harm the neighborhood.

    Demolition? No permit; your house is historic.

    Which is exactly the kind of fuckery that shouldn't be legal under the Constitution. You're making my point for me.


    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Adam H. Kerman@ahk@chinet.com to rec.arts.tv on Wed Jan 7 02:36:52 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.tv

    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
    On Jan 6, 2026 at 10:00:06 AM PST, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
    On Jan 5, 2026 at 10:05:01 PM PST, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    . . .

    If I own a house and I want, for whatever reason, to leave it empty for a
    period of time, that's none of the government's goddam business. It's *my*
    house. I can rent it, live in it, leave it empty, let my kid stay
    in it for
    free, or bulldoze it to the ground. Mam-fuckin'-dani doesn't get a say. >>>>
    The government completely intrudes on your life. Socialism never goes >>>> away.

    Your typical homeowner, not in a homeowners' association, owns the land >>>> as fee simple. This includes a bundle of rights, but not all rights. You >>>> don't own your air space, which is a good thing with respect to flights >>>> thousands of feet above but a bad thing when it comes to drone
    surveillance. You don't own mineral rights, so you can't dig for
    petroleum nor rare earth elements.

    Let's say you want to use your own land to its highest and best use. Say >>>> there's a major transportation facility nearby and your land might be >>>> desireable for commercial/industrial use or multi-family housing. But >>>> your land is zoned single family preventing you from redeveloping it. >>>>
    No court ever ruled that deliberate downzoning by the municipality or >>>> county is a taking. It should be.

    Mamdani or not, you are not free to do what you wish with your own land. >>>
    I said house, not land.

    Let's say the house isn't building code compliant. You may be denied
    permission to live there during renovation. They can slow walk building
    permits and raise irrelevancies during inspection or even shut the work
    down. They can add so many unnecessary expenses to the project that it's
    too costly to perform the work.

    There are communities with appearance review codes.

    Rent? You may need a permit, and short-term rentals may be denied since
    the onus is on you to prove that the short term traveller isn't there to
    have a very loud party or harm the neighborhood.

    Demolition? No permit; your house is historic.

    Which is exactly the kind of fuckery that shouldn't be legal under the >Constitution. You're making my point for me.

    I wasn't disagreeing. I was ranting. Socialism of this nature is truly egregious and an important contributing factor to the housing shortage.

    Ending socialism's intrusion in the free market would help reverse the
    housing shortage.

    btw, some professor commented that there was a Supreme Court case in
    1916 that ruled that deliberate underzoning wasn't unconstitutional. I
    didn't hear the name of the case. Is this familiar to you?
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From BTR1701@atropos@mac.com to rec.arts.tv on Wed Jan 7 04:01:53 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.tv

    On Jan 5, 2026 at 2:36:54 PM PST, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    On 2026-01-05 4:30 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:
    On Jan 5, 2026 at 1:25:13 PM PST, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> >> wrote:

    On 2026-01-05 2:04 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:

    Mamdani's Director of Tenancy, Cea Weaver, says NYC will transition >>>> private
    property to being a "collective good". This will apply not just to
    commercial residential buildings but individual homes as well.

    She says, "It will mean that especially white families are going have a >>>> different relationship to property than the one we currently have." >>>>
    In other words, she's going to try to take your house away from you and >>>> make
    it a public resource.

    The 5th Amendment will have something to say about that, comrade. NYC >>>> might
    have elected a communist, but its government still has to obey the
    Constitution. And after the Justice Department is done with her, Cea >>>> Weaver
    will likely have a different relationship with her job than she currently
    has.

    In the days after Lenin seized power in 1917, people with houses soon
    found themselves sharing them with people who had previously had rather >>> poorer housing. It wasn't a voluntary thing. Homes for single families
    became improvised apartment buildings, typically with whole families
    assigned to a single small room, with just enough room for a bed or two >>> and not much more. Kitchens and bathrooms became shared property with
    everyone getting assigned times to cook. (I'm not sure if they assigned >>> times for bathroom breaks.) This pattern persisted for DECADES, not just >>> a year or two. It was only in the 50s with Stalin dead that the
    authorities finally started building "Krushchovkas" (named after
    Stalin's successor Krushchev), standard-pattern 5 storey apartment
    blocks with paper-thin walls and elevators that almost never worked.
    These buildings still form the bulk of housing throughout Russia and its >>> former republics and satellites, where they are usually called "Commie
    blocks" by English-speakers - and English-speaking Russians.

    It sounds to me like Mamdani plans to do the same in NYC.

    Not only will all of this violate the 4th and 5th Amendments but the 14th as
    well, since his exciting new collectivist plans have an overt racial element
    to them.

    And if he's not careful, he and his minions might also run smack into the >> true
    purpose of the 2nd Amendment.

    Here's hoping!

    I'm having trouble imagining him moving homeless people into ordinary
    family homes, let alone the mansions of the rich. I don't think
    Americans will stand for that. The lawyers will be drooling for the
    chance to take this to court to get some easy wins - and I don't mean
    the lawyers for the city!

    Ahead of her appointment, Comrade Weaver deleted her Twitter account in an attempt to hide her outright communist and racist beliefs, but unfortunately for her, acting on a hunch, an independent media organization archived her entire account just in case. So let's look at some of Comrade Weaver's
    greatest hits:

    @ceaweaver:

    Private property, including (and kind of especially) home ownership,
    is a weapon of white supremacy masquerading as "wealth building"
    public policy.

    Now you might notice that living in the United States is better in almost
    every respect *because* we recognize private property rights and that there's never been a country in the history of mankind that doesn't recognize them
    that you would actually want to live in.

    You might also notice that in this country, white people aren't the only ones with homes. How does a black family owning their own home further the cause of white supremacy, you might ask. That would be a good question, one which might have been asked of Comrade Weaver if there was still a legitimate and functioning news media left in this country.

    @ceaweaver:

    Impoverish the *white* middle class. Home ownership is a racist
    failed public policy.

    Remember the woman who wrote that was just given a position of power in the administration of the mayor of the nation's largest city. And this isn't a one-off. Another of Mamdani's appointees was quoted as saying, "It's important that white people feel defeated." So this entire administration is blatantly and virulently racist from its inception.

    @ceaweaver:

    I think passing strong rent control is an effective way to shrink
    the value of real estate.

    So here we have bright-line evidence that Mamdani has appointed a woman whose stated goal is to torpedo property values for the city's residence. Imagine being a potential homeowner or commercial real estate investor and hearing something like this coming out of the mayor's office. Why would you invest a single dollar in property anywhere in New York City? The government is coming right out and saying that it wants you to lose money on your investment. Bankrupting you is the quickest way for them to realize their dream of nothing but slums from one end of Manhattan to the other.

    @ceaweaver

    The KKK is a violent Christian group. To keep us all safe on this
    busy travel day, Delta Airlines should kick all white people in
    Christmas outfits off planes.

    I mean, that one's just batshit crazy in addition to being (again) overtly racist. And why just Delta Airlines? So many questions...

    @ceaweaver

    Really needing to repress the desire for revenge right now.
    I wish I believed in god so I could believe that all men who take
    credit for women's work and all white men who take credit for
    the work of women of color would one day burn in agony.

    More racism along with strong indications of mental instability and violent impulses.


    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Rhino@no_offline_contact@example.com to rec.arts.tv on Tue Jan 6 23:39:11 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.tv

    On 2026-01-06 11:01 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:
    On Jan 5, 2026 at 2:36:54 PM PST, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    On 2026-01-05 4:30 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:
    On Jan 5, 2026 at 1:25:13 PM PST, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com>
    wrote:

    On 2026-01-05 2:04 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:

    Mamdani's Director of Tenancy, Cea Weaver, says NYC will transition >>>>> private
    property to being a "collective good". This will apply not just to >>>>> commercial residential buildings but individual homes as well.

    She says, "It will mean that especially white families are going have a
    different relationship to property than the one we currently have." >>>>>
    In other words, she's going to try to take your house away from you and
    make
    it a public resource.

    The 5th Amendment will have something to say about that, comrade. NYC >>>>> might
    have elected a communist, but its government still has to obey the >>>>> Constitution. And after the Justice Department is done with her, Cea >>>>> Weaver
    will likely have a different relationship with her job than she currently
    has.

    In the days after Lenin seized power in 1917, people with houses soon >>>> found themselves sharing them with people who had previously had rather >>>> poorer housing. It wasn't a voluntary thing. Homes for single families >>>> became improvised apartment buildings, typically with whole families >>>> assigned to a single small room, with just enough room for a bed or two >>>> and not much more. Kitchens and bathrooms became shared property with >>>> everyone getting assigned times to cook. (I'm not sure if they assigned >>>> times for bathroom breaks.) This pattern persisted for DECADES, not just >>>> a year or two. It was only in the 50s with Stalin dead that the
    authorities finally started building "Krushchovkas" (named after
    Stalin's successor Krushchev), standard-pattern 5 storey apartment
    blocks with paper-thin walls and elevators that almost never worked. >>>> These buildings still form the bulk of housing throughout Russia and its >>>> former republics and satellites, where they are usually called "Commie >>>> blocks" by English-speakers - and English-speaking Russians.

    It sounds to me like Mamdani plans to do the same in NYC.

    Not only will all of this violate the 4th and 5th Amendments but the 14th as
    well, since his exciting new collectivist plans have an overt racial element
    to them.

    And if he's not careful, he and his minions might also run smack into the >>> true
    purpose of the 2nd Amendment.

    Here's hoping!

    I'm having trouble imagining him moving homeless people into ordinary
    family homes, let alone the mansions of the rich. I don't think
    Americans will stand for that. The lawyers will be drooling for the
    chance to take this to court to get some easy wins - and I don't mean
    the lawyers for the city!

    Ahead of her appointment, Comrade Weaver deleted her Twitter account in an attempt to hide her outright communist and racist beliefs, but unfortunately for her, acting on a hunch, an independent media organization archived her entire account just in case. So let's look at some of Comrade Weaver's greatest hits:

    @ceaweaver:

    Private property, including (and kind of especially) home ownership,
    is a weapon of white supremacy masquerading as "wealth building"
    public policy.

    Now you might notice that living in the United States is better in almost every respect *because* we recognize private property rights and that there's never been a country in the history of mankind that doesn't recognize them that you would actually want to live in.

    You might also notice that in this country, white people aren't the only ones with homes. How does a black family owning their own home further the cause of
    white supremacy, you might ask. That would be a good question, one which might
    have been asked of Comrade Weaver if there was still a legitimate and functioning news media left in this country.

    @ceaweaver:

    Impoverish the *white* middle class. Home ownership is a racist
    failed public policy.

    Remember the woman who wrote that was just given a position of power in the administration of the mayor of the nation's largest city. And this isn't a one-off. Another of Mamdani's appointees was quoted as saying, "It's important
    that white people feel defeated." So this entire administration is blatantly and virulently racist from its inception.

    @ceaweaver:

    I think passing strong rent control is an effective way to shrink
    the value of real estate.

    So here we have bright-line evidence that Mamdani has appointed a woman whose stated goal is to torpedo property values for the city's residence. Imagine being a potential homeowner or commercial real estate investor and hearing something like this coming out of the mayor's office. Why would you invest a single dollar in property anywhere in New York City? The government is coming right out and saying that it wants you to lose money on your investment. Bankrupting you is the quickest way for them to realize their dream of nothing
    but slums from one end of Manhattan to the other.

    @ceaweaver

    The KKK is a violent Christian group. To keep us all safe on this
    busy travel day, Delta Airlines should kick all white people in
    Christmas outfits off planes.

    I mean, that one's just batshit crazy in addition to being (again) overtly racist. And why just Delta Airlines? So many questions...

    @ceaweaver

    Really needing to repress the desire for revenge right now.
    I wish I believed in god so I could believe that all men who take
    credit for women's work and all white men who take credit for
    the work of women of color would one day burn in agony.

    More racism along with strong indications of mental instability and violent impulses.


    In Starmer's Britain, she could go to jail for such sentiments - or be
    granted British citizenship despite them. Oh wait, she's AGAINST white
    people so no prison for her! If she'd said that about non-whites though,
    she'd be looking at a stretch in one of His Majesty's Prisons.
    --
    Rhino
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From BTR1701@atropos@mac.com to rec.arts.tv on Wed Jan 7 17:16:59 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.tv

    On Jan 6, 2026 at 8:39:11 PM PST, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    On 2026-01-06 11:01 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:
    On Jan 5, 2026 at 2:36:54 PM PST, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> >> wrote:

    On 2026-01-05 4:30 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:
    On Jan 5, 2026 at 1:25:13 PM PST, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com>
    wrote:

    On 2026-01-05 2:04 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:

    Mamdani's Director of Tenancy, Cea Weaver, says NYC will transition >>>>>> private
    property to being a "collective good". This will apply not just to >>>>>> commercial residential buildings but individual homes as well. >>>>>>
    She says, "It will mean that especially white families are going have a
    different relationship to property than the one we currently have." >>>>>>
    In other words, she's going to try to take your house away from you and
    make
    it a public resource.

    The 5th Amendment will have something to say about that, comrade. NYC
    might
    have elected a communist, but its government still has to obey the >>>>>> Constitution. And after the Justice Department is done with her, Cea
    Weaver
    will likely have a different relationship with her job than she >>>>>> currently
    has.

    In the days after Lenin seized power in 1917, people with houses soon >>>>> found themselves sharing them with people who had previously had rather
    poorer housing. It wasn't a voluntary thing. Homes for single families >>>>> became improvised apartment buildings, typically with whole families >>>>> assigned to a single small room, with just enough room for a bed or two
    and not much more. Kitchens and bathrooms became shared property with >>>>> everyone getting assigned times to cook. (I'm not sure if they assigned
    times for bathroom breaks.) This pattern persisted for DECADES, not just
    a year or two. It was only in the 50s with Stalin dead that the
    authorities finally started building "Krushchovkas" (named after
    Stalin's successor Krushchev), standard-pattern 5 storey apartment >>>>> blocks with paper-thin walls and elevators that almost never worked. >>>>> These buildings still form the bulk of housing throughout Russia and its
    former republics and satellites, where they are usually called "Commie >>>>> blocks" by English-speakers - and English-speaking Russians.

    It sounds to me like Mamdani plans to do the same in NYC.

    Not only will all of this violate the 4th and 5th Amendments but the >>>> 14th as
    well, since his exciting new collectivist plans have an overt racial >>>> element
    to them.

    And if he's not careful, he and his minions might also run smack into the
    true
    purpose of the 2nd Amendment.

    Here's hoping!

    I'm having trouble imagining him moving homeless people into ordinary
    family homes, let alone the mansions of the rich. I don't think
    Americans will stand for that. The lawyers will be drooling for the
    chance to take this to court to get some easy wins - and I don't mean
    the lawyers for the city!

    Ahead of her appointment, Comrade Weaver deleted her Twitter account in an >> attempt to hide her outright communist and racist beliefs, but unfortunately
    for her, acting on a hunch, an independent media organization archived her >> entire account just in case. So let's look at some of Comrade Weaver's
    greatest hits:

    @ceaweaver:

    Private property, including (and kind of especially) home ownership, >> is a weapon of white supremacy masquerading as "wealth building"
    public policy.

    Now you might notice that living in the United States is better in almost >> every respect *because* we recognize private property rights and that
    there's
    never been a country in the history of mankind that doesn't recognize them >> that you would actually want to live in.

    You might also notice that in this country, white people aren't the only
    ones
    with homes. How does a black family owning their own home further the cause >> of
    white supremacy, you might ask. That would be a good question, one which
    might
    have been asked of Comrade Weaver if there was still a legitimate and
    functioning news media left in this country.

    @ceaweaver:

    Impoverish the *white* middle class. Home ownership is a racist
    failed public policy.

    Remember the woman who wrote that was just given a position of power in the >> administration of the mayor of the nation's largest city. And this isn't a >> one-off. Another of Mamdani's appointees was quoted as saying, "It's
    important
    that white people feel defeated." So this entire administration is blatantly
    and virulently racist from its inception.

    @ceaweaver:

    I think passing strong rent control is an effective way to shrink
    the value of real estate.

    So here we have bright-line evidence that Mamdani has appointed a woman
    whose
    stated goal is to torpedo property values for the city's residence. Imagine >> being a potential homeowner or commercial real estate investor and hearing >> something like this coming out of the mayor's office. Why would you invest a
    single dollar in property anywhere in New York City? The government is
    coming
    right out and saying that it wants you to lose money on your investment.
    Bankrupting you is the quickest way for them to realize their dream of
    nothing
    but slums from one end of Manhattan to the other.

    @ceaweaver

    The KKK is a violent Christian group. To keep us all safe on this
    busy travel day, Delta Airlines should kick all white people in
    Christmas outfits off planes.

    I mean, that one's just batshit crazy in addition to being (again) overtly >> racist. And why just Delta Airlines? So many questions...

    @ceaweaver

    Really needing to repress the desire for revenge right now.
    I wish I believed in god so I could believe that all men who take
    credit for women's work and all white men who take credit for
    the work of women of color would one day burn in agony.

    More racism along with strong indications of mental instability and violent >> impulses.

    In Starmer's Britain, she could go to jail for such sentiments - or be granted British citizenship despite them. Oh wait, she's AGAINST white people so no prison for her! If she'd said that about non-whites though, she'd be looking at a stretch in one of His Majesty's Prisons.

    Yes, imagine for a moment that a hard-right conservative won the mayorship of
    a major American city (against all odds) and he immediately started a campaign of explicitly making life difficult and financially fraught for black people. How long do you think it would be before that mayor was not only removed but arrested and charged with criminal civil rights violations?

    But when it's white people, all bets are off!


    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Rhino@no_offline_contact@example.com to rec.arts.tv on Wed Jan 7 13:19:56 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.tv

    On 2026-01-07 12:16 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:
    On Jan 6, 2026 at 8:39:11 PM PST, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    On 2026-01-06 11:01 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:
    On Jan 5, 2026 at 2:36:54 PM PST, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com>
    wrote:

    On 2026-01-05 4:30 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:
    On Jan 5, 2026 at 1:25:13 PM PST, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com>
    wrote:

    On 2026-01-05 2:04 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:

    Mamdani's Director of Tenancy, Cea Weaver, says NYC will transition
    private
    property to being a "collective good". This will apply not just to
    commercial residential buildings but individual homes as well. >>>>>>>
    She says, "It will mean that especially white families are going have a
    different relationship to property than the one we currently have."

    In other words, she's going to try to take your house away from you and
    make
    it a public resource.

    The 5th Amendment will have something to say about that, comrade. NYC
    might
    have elected a communist, but its government still has to obey the
    Constitution. And after the Justice Department is done with her, Cea
    Weaver
    will likely have a different relationship with her job than she >>>>>>> currently
    has.

    In the days after Lenin seized power in 1917, people with houses soon
    found themselves sharing them with people who had previously had rather
    poorer housing. It wasn't a voluntary thing. Homes for single families
    became improvised apartment buildings, typically with whole families >>>>>> assigned to a single small room, with just enough room for a bed or two
    and not much more. Kitchens and bathrooms became shared property with
    everyone getting assigned times to cook. (I'm not sure if they assigned
    times for bathroom breaks.) This pattern persisted for DECADES, not just
    a year or two. It was only in the 50s with Stalin dead that the >>>>>> authorities finally started building "Krushchovkas" (named after >>>>>> Stalin's successor Krushchev), standard-pattern 5 storey apartment >>>>>> blocks with paper-thin walls and elevators that almost never worked. >>>>>> These buildings still form the bulk of housing throughout Russia and its
    former republics and satellites, where they are usually called "Commie
    blocks" by English-speakers - and English-speaking Russians.

    It sounds to me like Mamdani plans to do the same in NYC.

    Not only will all of this violate the 4th and 5th Amendments but the >>>>> 14th as
    well, since his exciting new collectivist plans have an overt racial >>>>> element
    to them.

    And if he's not careful, he and his minions might also run smack into the
    true
    purpose of the 2nd Amendment.

    Here's hoping!

    I'm having trouble imagining him moving homeless people into ordinary >>>> family homes, let alone the mansions of the rich. I don't think
    Americans will stand for that. The lawyers will be drooling for the
    chance to take this to court to get some easy wins - and I don't mean >>>> the lawyers for the city!

    Ahead of her appointment, Comrade Weaver deleted her Twitter account in an
    attempt to hide her outright communist and racist beliefs, but unfortunately
    for her, acting on a hunch, an independent media organization archived her
    entire account just in case. So let's look at some of Comrade Weaver's >>> greatest hits:

    @ceaweaver:

    Private property, including (and kind of especially) home ownership, >>> is a weapon of white supremacy masquerading as "wealth building"
    public policy.

    Now you might notice that living in the United States is better in almost >>> every respect *because* we recognize private property rights and that
    there's
    never been a country in the history of mankind that doesn't recognize them
    that you would actually want to live in.

    You might also notice that in this country, white people aren't the only >>> ones
    with homes. How does a black family owning their own home further the cause
    of
    white supremacy, you might ask. That would be a good question, one which >>> might
    have been asked of Comrade Weaver if there was still a legitimate and
    functioning news media left in this country.

    @ceaweaver:

    Impoverish the *white* middle class. Home ownership is a racist
    failed public policy.

    Remember the woman who wrote that was just given a position of power in the
    administration of the mayor of the nation's largest city. And this isn't a
    one-off. Another of Mamdani's appointees was quoted as saying, "It's
    important
    that white people feel defeated." So this entire administration is blatantly
    and virulently racist from its inception.

    @ceaweaver:

    I think passing strong rent control is an effective way to shrink >>> the value of real estate.

    So here we have bright-line evidence that Mamdani has appointed a woman >>> whose
    stated goal is to torpedo property values for the city's residence. Imagine
    being a potential homeowner or commercial real estate investor and hearing
    something like this coming out of the mayor's office. Why would you invest a
    single dollar in property anywhere in New York City? The government is >>> coming
    right out and saying that it wants you to lose money on your investment. >>> Bankrupting you is the quickest way for them to realize their dream of >>> nothing
    but slums from one end of Manhattan to the other.

    @ceaweaver

    The KKK is a violent Christian group. To keep us all safe on this >>> busy travel day, Delta Airlines should kick all white people in
    Christmas outfits off planes.

    I mean, that one's just batshit crazy in addition to being (again) overtly
    racist. And why just Delta Airlines? So many questions...

    @ceaweaver

    Really needing to repress the desire for revenge right now.
    I wish I believed in god so I could believe that all men who take >>> credit for women's work and all white men who take credit for
    the work of women of color would one day burn in agony.

    More racism along with strong indications of mental instability and violent
    impulses.

    In Starmer's Britain, she could go to jail for such sentiments - or be
    granted British citizenship despite them. Oh wait, she's AGAINST white
    people so no prison for her! If she'd said that about non-whites though,
    she'd be looking at a stretch in one of His Majesty's Prisons.

    Yes, imagine for a moment that a hard-right conservative won the mayorship of a major American city (against all odds) and he immediately started a campaign
    of explicitly making life difficult and financially fraught for black people. How long do you think it would be before that mayor was not only removed but arrested and charged with criminal civil rights violations?

    But when it's white people, all bets are off!


    For the "progressives" ALL white people have targets on their backs and deserve to. It's always bizarre to me to hear that kind of thinking from
    WHITE "progressives" who never seem to realize that they are painting
    targets on THEIR OWN BACKS. But they're so guilt-ridden that they seem
    to think they deserve it.
    --
    Rhino
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  • From BTR1701@atropos@mac.com to rec.arts.tv on Wed Jan 7 19:14:15 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.tv

    On Jan 7, 2026 at 10:19:56 AM PST, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    On 2026-01-07 12:16 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:
    On Jan 6, 2026 at 8:39:11 PM PST, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> >> wrote:

    On 2026-01-06 11:01 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:
    On Jan 5, 2026 at 2:36:54 PM PST, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com>
    wrote:

    On 2026-01-05 4:30 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:
    On Jan 5, 2026 at 1:25:13 PM PST, "Rhino"
    <no_offline_contact@example.com>
    wrote:

    On 2026-01-05 2:04 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:

    Mamdani's Director of Tenancy, Cea Weaver, says NYC will transition
    private
    property to being a "collective good". This will apply not just to
    commercial residential buildings but individual homes as well. >>>>>>>>
    She says, "It will mean that especially white families are >>>>>>>> going have a
    different relationship to property than the one we currently have."

    In other words, she's going to try to take your house away from >>>>>>>> you and
    make
    it a public resource.

    The 5th Amendment will have something to say about that, comrade. NYC
    might
    have elected a communist, but its government still has to obey the
    Constitution. And after the Justice Department is done with her, Cea
    Weaver
    will likely have a different relationship with her job than she >>>>>>>> currently
    has.

    In the days after Lenin seized power in 1917, people with houses soon
    found themselves sharing them with people who had previously had rather
    poorer housing. It wasn't a voluntary thing. Homes for single families
    became improvised apartment buildings, typically with whole families
    assigned to a single small room, with just enough room for a bed or two
    and not much more. Kitchens and bathrooms became shared property with
    everyone getting assigned times to cook. (I'm not sure if they assigned
    times for bathroom breaks.) This pattern persisted for DECADES, not just
    a year or two. It was only in the 50s with Stalin dead that the >>>>>>> authorities finally started building "Krushchovkas" (named after >>>>>>> Stalin's successor Krushchev), standard-pattern 5 storey apartment >>>>>>> blocks with paper-thin walls and elevators that almost never worked.
    These buildings still form the bulk of housing throughout Russia and its
    former republics and satellites, where they are usually called "Commie
    blocks" by English-speakers - and English-speaking Russians. >>>>>>>
    It sounds to me like Mamdani plans to do the same in NYC.

    Not only will all of this violate the 4th and 5th Amendments but the
    14th as
    well, since his exciting new collectivist plans have an overt racial
    element
    to them.

    And if he's not careful, he and his minions might also run smack >>>>>> into the
    true
    purpose of the 2nd Amendment.

    Here's hoping!

    I'm having trouble imagining him moving homeless people into ordinary >>>>> family homes, let alone the mansions of the rich. I don't think
    Americans will stand for that. The lawyers will be drooling for the >>>>> chance to take this to court to get some easy wins - and I don't mean >>>>> the lawyers for the city!

    Ahead of her appointment, Comrade Weaver deleted her Twitter account in an
    attempt to hide her outright communist and racist beliefs, but
    unfortunately
    for her, acting on a hunch, an independent media organization archived her
    entire account just in case. So let's look at some of Comrade Weaver's >>>> greatest hits:

    @ceaweaver:

    Private property, including (and kind of especially) home ownership,
    is a weapon of white supremacy masquerading as "wealth building" >>>> public policy.

    Now you might notice that living in the United States is better in almost
    every respect *because* we recognize private property rights and that >>>> there's
    never been a country in the history of mankind that doesn't recognize them
    that you would actually want to live in.

    You might also notice that in this country, white people aren't the only
    ones
    with homes. How does a black family owning their own home further the >>>> cause
    of
    white supremacy, you might ask. That would be a good question, one which
    might
    have been asked of Comrade Weaver if there was still a legitimate and >>>> functioning news media left in this country.

    @ceaweaver:

    Impoverish the *white* middle class. Home ownership is a racist >>>> failed public policy.

    Remember the woman who wrote that was just given a position of power in >>>> the
    administration of the mayor of the nation's largest city. And this isn't a
    one-off. Another of Mamdani's appointees was quoted as saying, "It's >>>> important
    that white people feel defeated." So this entire administration is
    blatantly
    and virulently racist from its inception.

    @ceaweaver:

    I think passing strong rent control is an effective way to shrink >>>> the value of real estate.

    So here we have bright-line evidence that Mamdani has appointed a woman >>>> whose
    stated goal is to torpedo property values for the city's residence. >>>> Imagine
    being a potential homeowner or commercial real estate investor and hearing
    something like this coming out of the mayor's office. Why would you >>>> invest a
    single dollar in property anywhere in New York City? The government is >>>> coming
    right out and saying that it wants you to lose money on your investment.
    Bankrupting you is the quickest way for them to realize their dream of >>>> nothing
    but slums from one end of Manhattan to the other.

    @ceaweaver

    The KKK is a violent Christian group. To keep us all safe on this >>>> busy travel day, Delta Airlines should kick all white people in >>>> Christmas outfits off planes.

    I mean, that one's just batshit crazy in addition to being (again) overtly
    racist. And why just Delta Airlines? So many questions...

    @ceaweaver

    Really needing to repress the desire for revenge right now.
    I wish I believed in god so I could believe that all men who take >>>> credit for women's work and all white men who take credit for >>>> the work of women of color would one day burn in agony.

    More racism along with strong indications of mental instability and >>>> violent
    impulses.

    In Starmer's Britain, she could go to jail for such sentiments - or be
    granted British citizenship despite them. Oh wait, she's AGAINST white
    people so no prison for her! If she'd said that about non-whites though, >>> she'd be looking at a stretch in one of His Majesty's Prisons.

    Yes, imagine for a moment that a hard-right conservative won the mayorship >> of
    a major American city (against all odds) and he immediately started a
    campaign
    of explicitly making life difficult and financially fraught for black
    people.
    How long do you think it would be before that mayor was not only removed but
    arrested and charged with criminal civil rights violations?

    But when it's white people, all bets are off!


    For the "progressives" ALL white people have targets on their backs and deserve to. It's always bizarre to me to hear that kind of thinking from WHITE "progressives" who never seem to realize that they are painting targets on THEIR OWN BACKS.

    There's always the ones who think "I'm one of the good ones, so I'm safe",
    when in reality, when the revolution comes, it's usually the 'allies' who are first against the wall.

    Robespierre was one of the first necks in the guillotine, after all. He and
    his allies were screaming as they were hauled off to the blade, "But wait, we're on *your* side!"


    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Rhino@no_offline_contact@example.com to rec.arts.tv on Wed Jan 7 15:20:40 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.tv

    On 2026-01-07 2:14 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:
    On Jan 7, 2026 at 10:19:56 AM PST, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    On 2026-01-07 12:16 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:
    On Jan 6, 2026 at 8:39:11 PM PST, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com>
    wrote:

    On 2026-01-06 11:01 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:
    On Jan 5, 2026 at 2:36:54 PM PST, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com>
    wrote:

    On 2026-01-05 4:30 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:
    On Jan 5, 2026 at 1:25:13 PM PST, "Rhino"
    <no_offline_contact@example.com>
    wrote:

    On 2026-01-05 2:04 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:

    Mamdani's Director of Tenancy, Cea Weaver, says NYC will transition
    private
    property to being a "collective good". This will apply not just to
    commercial residential buildings but individual homes as well.

    She says, "It will mean that especially white families are >>>>>>>>> going have a
    different relationship to property than the one we currently have."

    In other words, she's going to try to take your house away from
    you and
    make
    it a public resource.

    The 5th Amendment will have something to say about that, comrade. NYC
    might
    have elected a communist, but its government still has to obey the
    Constitution. And after the Justice Department is done with her, Cea
    Weaver
    will likely have a different relationship with her job than she
    currently
    has.

    In the days after Lenin seized power in 1917, people with houses soon
    found themselves sharing them with people who had previously had rather
    poorer housing. It wasn't a voluntary thing. Homes for single families
    became improvised apartment buildings, typically with whole families
    assigned to a single small room, with just enough room for a bed or two
    and not much more. Kitchens and bathrooms became shared property with
    everyone getting assigned times to cook. (I'm not sure if they assigned
    times for bathroom breaks.) This pattern persisted for DECADES, not just
    a year or two. It was only in the 50s with Stalin dead that the >>>>>>>> authorities finally started building "Krushchovkas" (named after >>>>>>>> Stalin's successor Krushchev), standard-pattern 5 storey apartment
    blocks with paper-thin walls and elevators that almost never worked.
    These buildings still form the bulk of housing throughout Russia and its
    former republics and satellites, where they are usually called "Commie
    blocks" by English-speakers - and English-speaking Russians. >>>>>>>>
    It sounds to me like Mamdani plans to do the same in NYC. >>>>>>>
    Not only will all of this violate the 4th and 5th Amendments but the
    14th as
    well, since his exciting new collectivist plans have an overt racial
    element
    to them.

    And if he's not careful, he and his minions might also run smack >>>>>>> into the
    true
    purpose of the 2nd Amendment.

    Here's hoping!

    I'm having trouble imagining him moving homeless people into ordinary
    family homes, let alone the mansions of the rich. I don't think >>>>>> Americans will stand for that. The lawyers will be drooling for the >>>>>> chance to take this to court to get some easy wins - and I don't mean
    the lawyers for the city!

    Ahead of her appointment, Comrade Weaver deleted her Twitter account in an
    attempt to hide her outright communist and racist beliefs, but
    unfortunately
    for her, acting on a hunch, an independent media organization archived her
    entire account just in case. So let's look at some of Comrade Weaver's
    greatest hits:

    @ceaweaver:

    Private property, including (and kind of especially) home ownership,
    is a weapon of white supremacy masquerading as "wealth building" >>>>> public policy.

    Now you might notice that living in the United States is better in almost
    every respect *because* we recognize private property rights and that >>>>> there's
    never been a country in the history of mankind that doesn't recognize them
    that you would actually want to live in.

    You might also notice that in this country, white people aren't the only
    ones
    with homes. How does a black family owning their own home further the >>>>> cause
    of
    white supremacy, you might ask. That would be a good question, one which
    might
    have been asked of Comrade Weaver if there was still a legitimate and >>>>> functioning news media left in this country.

    @ceaweaver:

    Impoverish the *white* middle class. Home ownership is a racist >>>>> failed public policy.

    Remember the woman who wrote that was just given a position of power in
    the
    administration of the mayor of the nation's largest city. And this isn't a
    one-off. Another of Mamdani's appointees was quoted as saying, "It's >>>>> important
    that white people feel defeated." So this entire administration is >>>>> blatantly
    and virulently racist from its inception.

    @ceaweaver:

    I think passing strong rent control is an effective way to shrink
    the value of real estate.

    So here we have bright-line evidence that Mamdani has appointed a woman
    whose
    stated goal is to torpedo property values for the city's residence. >>>>> Imagine
    being a potential homeowner or commercial real estate investor and hearing
    something like this coming out of the mayor's office. Why would you >>>>> invest a
    single dollar in property anywhere in New York City? The government is
    coming
    right out and saying that it wants you to lose money on your investment.
    Bankrupting you is the quickest way for them to realize their dream of
    nothing
    but slums from one end of Manhattan to the other.

    @ceaweaver

    The KKK is a violent Christian group. To keep us all safe on this
    busy travel day, Delta Airlines should kick all white people in >>>>> Christmas outfits off planes.

    I mean, that one's just batshit crazy in addition to being (again) overtly
    racist. And why just Delta Airlines? So many questions...

    @ceaweaver

    Really needing to repress the desire for revenge right now. >>>>> I wish I believed in god so I could believe that all men who take
    credit for women's work and all white men who take credit for >>>>> the work of women of color would one day burn in agony.

    More racism along with strong indications of mental instability and >>>>> violent
    impulses.

    In Starmer's Britain, she could go to jail for such sentiments - or be >>>> granted British citizenship despite them. Oh wait, she's AGAINST white >>>> people so no prison for her! If she'd said that about non-whites though, >>>> she'd be looking at a stretch in one of His Majesty's Prisons.

    Yes, imagine for a moment that a hard-right conservative won the mayorship
    of
    a major American city (against all odds) and he immediately started a
    campaign
    of explicitly making life difficult and financially fraught for black
    people.
    How long do you think it would be before that mayor was not only removed but
    arrested and charged with criminal civil rights violations?

    But when it's white people, all bets are off!


    For the "progressives" ALL white people have targets on their backs and
    deserve to. It's always bizarre to me to hear that kind of thinking from
    WHITE "progressives" who never seem to realize that they are painting
    targets on THEIR OWN BACKS.

    There's always the ones who think "I'm one of the good ones, so I'm safe", when in reality, when the revolution comes, it's usually the 'allies' who are first against the wall.

    That was certainly the case in Iran in 1979. The Communists and
    Islamists TOGETHER overthrew the existing order. Then, the Islamists
    thanked their allies by killing them!

    Robespierre was one of the first necks in the guillotine, after all. He and his allies were screaming as they were hauled off to the blade, "But wait, we're on *your* side!"


    I wouldn't say he was among the first but he definitely got his turn
    after a couple of years of leading the charge.
    --
    Rhino
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  • From The Horny Goat@lcraver@home.ca to rec.arts.tv on Mon Jan 12 19:56:59 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.tv

    On Tue, 6 Jan 2026 02:49:37 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
    wrote:

    Not only that, even if the owner loses the eminent domain case, the government >still is required under the 5th Amendment to pay fair market value for what it >takes. Not sure where Comrade Mamdani thinks he's going to find the billions >(or even trillions) it would take to reimburse everyone he plans on stealing >from.

    Certainly in these parts, when an expropriation case goes to court the
    case isn't whether government has a right to expropriate but rather
    that they're not accepting the amount offered for their property. (And
    cases routinely go both ways)
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  • From The Horny Goat@lcraver@home.ca to rec.arts.tv on Mon Jan 12 19:59:45 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.tv

    On Tue, 6 Jan 2026 02:47:21 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
    wrote:

    If I own a house and I want, for whatever reason, to leave it empty for a >period of time, that's none of the government's goddam business. It's *my* >house. I can rent it, live in it, leave it empty, let my kid stay in it for >free, or bulldoze it to the ground. Mam-fuckin'-dani doesn't get a say.

    When expropriation takes place the owner doesn't normally get the
    right to reject expropriation altogether - and if the asking price is
    less than the owner deems appropriate then the legislation spells out
    how the impasse is to be resolved.
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