On Jan 1, 2026 at 7:14:05 AM PST, "NoBody" <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 19:11:12 -0500, Capricorne <capricorne@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Dec 31, 2025 at 11:57:44 AM PST, "shawn" <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 10:13:22 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
wrote:
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
In article <10ip638$3kkbb$2@dont-email.me>, atropos@mac.com wrote: >>>>>>>
More and more restaurants around here are automatically adding tips to
the bill-- even for parties of just one or two-- as a mandatory charge.
They don't call them tips, since legally tips have to be voluntary. They
label them things like "staff health care fee" and "worker compensation
fee" and "living wage fee".
And of course even after they charge you one of those bullshit mandatory
fees, they still add the tip line at the bottom for you to pay them even
*more* money. Whenever I see one of these exciting new fees on the bill,
I just draw a line with an arrow from the tip line up to the fee, circle
it, and write, "That's your tip."
That reminds me; What's the deal with my FB feed containing several >>>>>>> postings
lecturing me to tip 40% and postings (suspiciously AI-generated) of >>>>>>> people's restaurant bills with comments written about the tip? I saw one
in which the
waiter presumably wrote on a bill with no tip that they were calling the
cops.
LOL. If a waiter ever wrote such a thing I would definitely not tip. >>>>> Even if I loved their service. Just to see if they were foolish enough >>>>> to call the cops out for my deciding not to offer an optional
gratuity.
This.
I would *so* call their bluff.
I wonder if Trump tips. Funny, just thinking about it we seem to know
the answer, no?
"Former President Donald Trump made an unscheduled campaign stop at
Tony and Nick's Steaks in South Philadelphia on Saturday, prior to a
rally at Temple University in the key battleground state of
Pennsylvania. The visit, which came as a surprise to the restaurant's
owner, left a lasting impression on both staff and patrons.
Trump left a $500 tip and wrote "no taxes on tips" on the receipt,
aligning with his recent campaign stance to end taxation on tips for
service industry workers. This gesture highlighted a key issue facing
many small business owners and their employees across the country."
https://www.israelhayom.com/2024/06/23/trump-leaves-500-tip-in-philadelphia-cheesesteak-shop/
All ya had to do is look dude.
"But... but... what about the narrative!?!"
Suzee, Traveler, and Capricorne won't let facts get in the way of a good round >of Trump-bashing.
On Thu, 1 Jan 2026 20:33:28 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
wrote:
On Jan 1, 2026 at 7:14:05 AM PST, "NoBody" <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 19:11:12 -0500, Capricorne <capricorne@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Dec 31, 2025 at 11:57:44 AM PST, "shawn" <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 10:13:22 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> >>>>>> wrote:
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
In article <10ip638$3kkbb$2@dont-email.me>, atropos@mac.com wrote: >>>>>>>>
More and more restaurants around here are automatically adding tips to
the bill-- even for parties of just one or two-- as a mandatory charge.
They don't call them tips, since legally tips have to be voluntary. They
label them things like "staff health care fee" and "worker compensation
fee" and "living wage fee".
And of course even after they charge you one of those bullshit mandatory
fees, they still add the tip line at the bottom for you to pay them even
*more* money. Whenever I see one of these exciting new fees on the bill,
I just draw a line with an arrow from the tip line up to the fee, circle
it, and write, "That's your tip."
That reminds me; What's the deal with my FB feed containing several >>>>>>>> postings
lecturing me to tip 40% and postings (suspiciously AI-generated) of >>>>>>>> people's restaurant bills with comments written about the tip? I saw one
in which the
waiter presumably wrote on a bill with no tip that they were calling the
cops.
LOL. If a waiter ever wrote such a thing I would definitely not tip. >>>>>> Even if I loved their service. Just to see if they were foolish enough >>>>>> to call the cops out for my deciding not to offer an optional
gratuity.
This.
I would *so* call their bluff.
I wonder if Trump tips. Funny, just thinking about it we seem to know >>>> the answer, no?
"Former President Donald Trump made an unscheduled campaign stop at
Tony and Nick's Steaks in South Philadelphia on Saturday, prior to a
rally at Temple University in the key battleground state of
Pennsylvania. The visit, which came as a surprise to the restaurant's
owner, left a lasting impression on both staff and patrons.
Trump left a $500 tip and wrote "no taxes on tips" on the receipt,
aligning with his recent campaign stance to end taxation on tips for
service industry workers. This gesture highlighted a key issue facing
many small business owners and their employees across the country."
https://www.israelhayom.com/2024/06/23/trump-leaves-500-tip-in-philadelphia-cheesesteak-shop/
All ya had to do is look dude.
"But... but... what about the narrative!?!"
Suzee, Traveler, and Capricorne won't let facts get in the way of a good round
of Trump-bashing.
Well, let me get in on the Trump bashing by pointing out the number of
small businesses that were left in the lurch by Trump after doing work
for him. So I guess he's more than willing to be generous when it's
public facing, like handing out money to people with cameras and
reporters looking on but unwilling to pay businesses for the work he >contracted since there's no one watching.
On Thu, 1 Jan 2026 23:28:15 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
wrote:
On Jan 1, 2026 at 3:07:18 PM PST, "shawn" <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> >>wrote:
On Thu, 1 Jan 2026 20:33:28 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
wrote:
On Jan 1, 2026 at 7:14:05 AM PST, "NoBody" <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>>
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 19:11:12 -0500, Capricorne <capricorne@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote:
On Dec 31, 2025 at 11:57:44 AM PST, "shawn"
<nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 10:13:22 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> >>>>>>>> wrote:
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
In article <10ip638$3kkbb$2@dont-email.me>, atropos@mac.com wrote:
More and more restaurants around here are automatically adding tips to
the bill-- even for parties of just one or two-- as a mandatory charge.
They don't call them tips, since legally tips have to be voluntary. They
label them things like "staff health care fee" and "worker compensation
fee" and "living wage fee".
And of course even after they charge you one of those bullshit mandatory
fees, they still add the tip line at the bottom for you to pay them even
*more* money. Whenever I see one of these exciting new fees on the bill,
I just draw a line with an arrow from the tip line up to the fee, circle
it, and write, "That's your tip."
That reminds me; What's the deal with my FB feed containing several
postings
lecturing me to tip 40% and postings (suspiciously AI-generated) of
people's restaurant bills with comments written about the tip? I saw one
in which the
waiter presumably wrote on a bill with no tip that they were calling the
cops.
LOL. If a waiter ever wrote such a thing I would definitely not tip. >>>>>>>> Even if I loved their service. Just to see if they were foolish enough
to call the cops out for my deciding not to offer an optional >>>>>>>> gratuity.
This.
I would *so* call their bluff.
I wonder if Trump tips. Funny, just thinking about it we seem to know >>>>>> the answer, no?
"Former President Donald Trump made an unscheduled campaign stop at >>>>> Tony and Nick's Steaks in South Philadelphia on Saturday, prior to a >>>>> rally at Temple University in the key battleground state of
Pennsylvania. The visit, which came as a surprise to the restaurant's >>>>> owner, left a lasting impression on both staff and patrons.
Trump left a $500 tip and wrote "no taxes on tips" on the receipt,
aligning with his recent campaign stance to end taxation on tips for >>>>> service industry workers. This gesture highlighted a key issue facing >>>>> many small business owners and their employees across the country." >>>>>
https://www.israelhayom.com/2024/06/23/trump-leaves-500-tip-in-philadelphia-cheesesteak-shop/
All ya had to do is look dude.
"But... but... what about the narrative!?!"
Suzee, Traveler, and Capricorne won't let facts get in the way of a good >>>> round
of Trump-bashing.
Well, let me get in on the Trump bashing by pointing out the number of
small businesses that were left in the lurch by Trump after doing work
for him. So I guess he's more than willing to be generous when it's
public facing, like handing out money to people with cameras and
reporters looking on but unwilling to pay businesses for the work he
contracted since there's no one watching.
There were no press or public around when he was showering the golf club staff
with $100 bills.
sure sounds like there were plenty of people around. Also he was doing
it face to face. Maybe it's easier for him to cheat people if they
aren't in front of him because it's a well known fact that he will
often cheat businesses out of the money they earned doing work for
him. It's apparently been an ongoing thing for him since he got into >business.
On 1/1/2026 3:07 PM, shawn wrote:
On Thu, 1 Jan 2026 20:33:28 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
wrote:
On Jan 1, 2026 at 7:14:05 AM PST, "NoBody" <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 19:11:12 -0500, Capricorne <capricorne@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Dec 31, 2025 at 11:57:44 AM PST, "shawn" <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 10:13:22 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> >>>>>>> wrote:
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
In article <10ip638$3kkbb$2@dont-email.me>, atropos@mac.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>
More and more restaurants around here are automatically adding tips to
the bill-- even for parties of just one or two-- as a mandatory charge.
They don't call them tips, since legally tips have to be voluntary. They
label them things like "staff health care fee" and "worker compensation
fee" and "living wage fee".
And of course even after they charge you one of those bullshit mandatory
fees, they still add the tip line at the bottom for you to pay them even
*more* money. Whenever I see one of these exciting new fees on the bill,
I just draw a line with an arrow from the tip line up to the fee, circle
it, and write, "That's your tip."
That reminds me; What's the deal with my FB feed containing several
postings
lecturing me to tip 40% and postings (suspiciously AI-generated) of
people's restaurant bills with comments written about the tip? I saw one
in which the
waiter presumably wrote on a bill with no tip that they were calling the
cops.
LOL. If a waiter ever wrote such a thing I would definitely not tip. >>>>>>> Even if I loved their service. Just to see if they were foolish enough
to call the cops out for my deciding not to offer an optional
gratuity.
This.
I would *so* call their bluff.
I wonder if Trump tips. Funny, just thinking about it we seem to know >>>>> the answer, no?
"Former President Donald Trump made an unscheduled campaign stop at
Tony and Nick's Steaks in South Philadelphia on Saturday, prior to a
rally at Temple University in the key battleground state of
Pennsylvania. The visit, which came as a surprise to the restaurant's
owner, left a lasting impression on both staff and patrons.
Trump left a $500 tip and wrote "no taxes on tips" on the receipt,
aligning with his recent campaign stance to end taxation on tips for
service industry workers. This gesture highlighted a key issue facing
many small business owners and their employees across the country."
https://www.israelhayom.com/2024/06/23/trump-leaves-500-tip-in-philadelphia-cheesesteak-shop/
All ya had to do is look dude.
"But... but... what about the narrative!?!"
Suzee, Traveler, and Capricorne won't let facts get in the way of a good round
of Trump-bashing.
Well, let me get in on the Trump bashing by pointing out the number of
small businesses that were left in the lurch by Trump after doing work
for him. So I guess he's more than willing to be generous when it's
public facing, like handing out money to people with cameras and
reporters looking on but unwilling to pay businesses for the work he
contracted since there's no one watching.
Exactly.
On Jan 1, 2026 at 3:59:31 PM PST, "Capricorne" <capricorne@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jan 1, 2026 at 7:14:05 AM PST, "NoBody" <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 19:11:12 -0500, Capricorne <capricorne@gmail.com> >>>> wrote:
On Dec 31, 2025 at 11:57:44 AM PST, "shawn"
<nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 10:13:22 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> >>>>>>> wrote:
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
In article <10ip638$3kkbb$2@dont-email.me>, atropos@mac.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>
More and more restaurants around here are automatically adding tipsThat reminds me; What's the deal with my FB feed containing several
to the bill-- even for parties of just one or two-- as a mandatory
charge. They don't call them tips, since legally tips have to be
voluntary. They label them things like "staff health care fee" and
"worker compensation fee" and "living wage fee".
And of course even after they charge you one of those bullshit >>>>>>>>>> mandatory fees, they still add the tip line at the bottom for you
to pay them even *more* money. Whenever I see one of these exciting
new fees on the bill, I just draw a line with an arrow from the tip
line up to the fee, circle it, and write, "That's your tip." >>>>>>>>>
postings
lecturing me to tip 40% and postings (suspiciously AI-generated) of
people's restaurant bills with comments written about the tip? I saw
one in which the
waiter presumably wrote on a bill with no tip that they were calling
the cops.
LOL. If a waiter ever wrote such a thing I would definitely not tip. >>>>>>> Even if I loved their service. Just to see if they were foolish enough
to call the cops out for my deciding not to offer an optional
gratuity.
This.
I would *so* call their bluff.
I wonder if Trump tips. Funny, just thinking about it we seem to know >>>>> the answer, no?
"Former President Donald Trump made an unscheduled campaign stop at
Tony and Nick's Steaks in South Philadelphia on Saturday, prior to a
rally at Temple University in the key battleground state of
Pennsylvania. The visit, which came as a surprise to the restaurant's >>>> owner, left a lasting impression on both staff and patrons.
Trump left a $500 tip and wrote "no taxes on tips" on the receipt,
aligning with his recent campaign stance to end taxation on tips for
service industry workers. This gesture highlighted a key issue facing >>>> many small business owners and their employees across the country."
https://www.israelhayom.com/2024/06/23/trump-leaves-500-tip-in-philadelphia-cheesesteak-shop/
All ya had to do is look dude.
"But... but... what about the narrative!?!"
Suzee, Traveler, and Capricorne won't let facts get in the way of a good >>> round of Trump-bashing.
So I guess you would buy a used car from him blindly? :')
I wouldn't buy a used car from anyone blindly. That's just stupid.
On Thu, 01 Jan 2026 19:20:51 -0500, shawn
<nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
On Thu, 1 Jan 2026 23:28:15 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
wrote:
On Jan 1, 2026 at 3:07:18 PM PST, "shawn" <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> >>> wrote:
On Thu, 1 Jan 2026 20:33:28 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
wrote:
On Jan 1, 2026 at 7:14:05 AM PST, "NoBody" <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>>>
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 19:11:12 -0500, Capricorne <capricorne@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote:
On Dec 31, 2025 at 11:57:44 AM PST, "shawn"
<nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 10:13:22 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
In article <10ip638$3kkbb$2@dont-email.me>, atropos@mac.com wrote:
More and more restaurants around here are automatically adding tips to
the bill-- even for parties of just one or two-- as a mandatory charge.
They don't call them tips, since legally tips have to be voluntary. They
label them things like "staff health care fee" and "worker compensation
fee" and "living wage fee".
And of course even after they charge you one of those bullshit mandatory
fees, they still add the tip line at the bottom for you to pay them even
*more* money. Whenever I see one of these exciting new fees on the bill,
I just draw a line with an arrow from the tip line up to the fee, circle
it, and write, "That's your tip."
That reminds me; What's the deal with my FB feed containing several
postings
lecturing me to tip 40% and postings (suspiciously AI-generated) of
people's restaurant bills with comments written about the tip? I saw one
in which the
waiter presumably wrote on a bill with no tip that they were calling the
cops.
LOL. If a waiter ever wrote such a thing I would definitely not tip.
Even if I loved their service. Just to see if they were foolish enough
to call the cops out for my deciding not to offer an optional >>>>>>>>> gratuity.
This.
I would *so* call their bluff.
I wonder if Trump tips. Funny, just thinking about it we seem to know >>>>>>> the answer, no?
"Former President Donald Trump made an unscheduled campaign stop at >>>>>> Tony and Nick's Steaks in South Philadelphia on Saturday, prior to a >>>>>> rally at Temple University in the key battleground state of
Pennsylvania. The visit, which came as a surprise to the restaurant's >>>>>> owner, left a lasting impression on both staff and patrons.
Trump left a $500 tip and wrote "no taxes on tips" on the receipt, >>>>>> aligning with his recent campaign stance to end taxation on tips for >>>>>> service industry workers. This gesture highlighted a key issue facing >>>>>> many small business owners and their employees across the country." >>>>>>
https://www.israelhayom.com/2024/06/23/trump-leaves-500-tip-in-philadelphia-cheesesteak-shop/
All ya had to do is look dude.
"But... but... what about the narrative!?!"
Suzee, Traveler, and Capricorne won't let facts get in the way of a good >>>>> round
of Trump-bashing.
Well, let me get in on the Trump bashing by pointing out the number of >>>> small businesses that were left in the lurch by Trump after doing work >>>> for him. So I guess he's more than willing to be generous when it's
public facing, like handing out money to people with cameras and
reporters looking on but unwilling to pay businesses for the work he
contracted since there's no one watching.
There were no press or public around when he was showering the golf club staff
with $100 bills.
sure sounds like there were plenty of people around. Also he was doing
it face to face. Maybe it's easier for him to cheat people if they
aren't in front of him because it's a well known fact that he will
often cheat businesses out of the money they earned doing work for
him. It's apparently been an ongoing thing for him since he got into
business.
Laughter!
The claim that he does not tip is proven false. Why can't you just
admit it?
On Thu, 1 Jan 2026 20:33:28 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
wrote:
On Jan 1, 2026 at 7:14:05 AM PST, "NoBody" <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:Yep. Being that they are liberals, they are concerned with narrative,
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 19:11:12 -0500, Capricorne <capricorne@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Dec 31, 2025 at 11:57:44 AM PST, "shawn" <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 10:13:22 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> >>>>>> wrote:
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
In article <10ip638$3kkbb$2@dont-email.me>, atropos@mac.com wrote: >>>>>>>>
More and more restaurants around here are automatically adding tips to
the bill-- even for parties of just one or two-- as a mandatory charge.
They don't call them tips, since legally tips have to be voluntary. They
label them things like "staff health care fee" and "worker compensation
fee" and "living wage fee".
And of course even after they charge you one of those bullshit mandatory
fees, they still add the tip line at the bottom for you to pay them even
*more* money. Whenever I see one of these exciting new fees on the bill,
I just draw a line with an arrow from the tip line up to the fee, circle
it, and write, "That's your tip."
That reminds me; What's the deal with my FB feed containing several >>>>>>>> postings
lecturing me to tip 40% and postings (suspiciously AI-generated) of >>>>>>>> people's restaurant bills with comments written about the tip? I saw one
in which the
waiter presumably wrote on a bill with no tip that they were calling the
cops.
LOL. If a waiter ever wrote such a thing I would definitely not tip. >>>>>> Even if I loved their service. Just to see if they were foolish enough >>>>>> to call the cops out for my deciding not to offer an optional
gratuity.
This.
I would *so* call their bluff.
I wonder if Trump tips. Funny, just thinking about it we seem to know
the answer, no?
"Former President Donald Trump made an unscheduled campaign stop at
Tony and Nick's Steaks in South Philadelphia on Saturday, prior to a
rally at Temple University in the key battleground state of
Pennsylvania. The visit, which came as a surprise to the restaurant's
owner, left a lasting impression on both staff and patrons.
Trump left a $500 tip and wrote "no taxes on tips" on the receipt,
aligning with his recent campaign stance to end taxation on tips for
service industry workers. This gesture highlighted a key issue facing
many small business owners and their employees across the country."
https://www.israelhayom.com/2024/06/23/trump-leaves-500-tip-in-philadelphia-cheesesteak-shop/
All ya had to do is look dude.
"But... but... what about the narrative!?!"
Suzee, Traveler, and Capricorne won't let facts get in the way of a good round
of Trump-bashing.
not truth and fact.
On Thu, 1 Jan 2026 23:28:15 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
wrote:
On Jan 1, 2026 at 3:07:18 PM PST, "shawn" <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> >> wrote:
On Thu, 1 Jan 2026 20:33:28 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
wrote:
On Jan 1, 2026 at 7:14:05 AM PST, "NoBody" <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>>
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 19:11:12 -0500, Capricorne <capricorne@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote:
On Dec 31, 2025 at 11:57:44 AM PST, "shawn"
<nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 10:13:22 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> >>>>>>>> wrote:
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
In article <10ip638$3kkbb$2@dont-email.me>, atropos@mac.com wrote:
More and more restaurants around here are automatically adding tips to
the bill-- even for parties of just one or two-- as a mandatory charge.
They don't call them tips, since legally tips have to be voluntary. They
label them things like "staff health care fee" and "worker compensation
fee" and "living wage fee".
And of course even after they charge you one of those bullshit mandatory
fees, they still add the tip line at the bottom for you to pay them even
*more* money. Whenever I see one of these exciting new fees on the bill,
I just draw a line with an arrow from the tip line up to the fee, circle
it, and write, "That's your tip."
That reminds me; What's the deal with my FB feed containing several
postings
lecturing me to tip 40% and postings (suspiciously AI-generated) of
people's restaurant bills with comments written about the tip? I saw one
in which the
waiter presumably wrote on a bill with no tip that they were calling the
cops.
LOL. If a waiter ever wrote such a thing I would definitely not tip.
Even if I loved their service. Just to see if they were foolish enough
to call the cops out for my deciding not to offer an optional >>>>>>>> gratuity.
This.
I would *so* call their bluff.
I wonder if Trump tips. Funny, just thinking about it we seem to know >>>>>> the answer, no?
"Former President Donald Trump made an unscheduled campaign stop at >>>>> Tony and Nick's Steaks in South Philadelphia on Saturday, prior to a >>>>> rally at Temple University in the key battleground state of
Pennsylvania. The visit, which came as a surprise to the restaurant's >>>>> owner, left a lasting impression on both staff and patrons.
Trump left a $500 tip and wrote "no taxes on tips" on the receipt, >>>>> aligning with his recent campaign stance to end taxation on tips for >>>>> service industry workers. This gesture highlighted a key issue facing >>>>> many small business owners and their employees across the country." >>>>>
https://www.israelhayom.com/2024/06/23/trump-leaves-500-tip-in-philadelphia-cheesesteak-shop/
All ya had to do is look dude.
"But... but... what about the narrative!?!"
Suzee, Traveler, and Capricorne won't let facts get in the way of a good >>>> round
of Trump-bashing.
Well, let me get in on the Trump bashing by pointing out the number of
small businesses that were left in the lurch by Trump after doing work
for him. So I guess he's more than willing to be generous when it's
public facing, like handing out money to people with cameras and
reporters looking on but unwilling to pay businesses for the work he
contracted since there's no one watching.
There were no press or public around when he was showering the golf club
staff
with $100 bills.
sure sounds like there were plenty of people around.
On 1/2/2026 7:13 AM, NoBody wrote:
On Thu, 01 Jan 2026 19:20:51 -0500, shawn
<nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
On Thu, 1 Jan 2026 23:28:15 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
wrote:
On Jan 1, 2026 at 3:07:18 PM PST, "shawn" <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
wrote:
On Thu, 1 Jan 2026 20:33:28 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
wrote:
On Jan 1, 2026 at 7:14:05 AM PST, "NoBody" <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>>>>
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 19:11:12 -0500, Capricorne <capricorne@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Dec 31, 2025 at 11:57:44 AM PST, "shawn"
<nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 10:13:22 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
wrote:
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
In article <10ip638$3kkbb$2@dont-email.me>, atropos@mac.com wrote:
More and more restaurants around here are automatically adding tips to
the bill-- even for parties of just one or two-- as a mandatory charge.
They don't call them tips, since legally tips have to be voluntary. They
label them things like "staff health care fee" and "worker compensation
fee" and "living wage fee".
And of course even after they charge you one of those bullshit mandatory
fees, they still add the tip line at the bottom for you to pay them even
*more* money. Whenever I see one of these exciting new fees on the bill,
I just draw a line with an arrow from the tip line up to the fee, circle
it, and write, "That's your tip."
That reminds me; What's the deal with my FB feed containing several
postings
lecturing me to tip 40% and postings (suspiciously AI-generated) of
people's restaurant bills with comments written about the tip? I saw one
in which the
waiter presumably wrote on a bill with no tip that they were calling the
cops.
LOL. If a waiter ever wrote such a thing I would definitely not tip.
Even if I loved their service. Just to see if they were foolish enough
to call the cops out for my deciding not to offer an optional >>>>>>>>>> gratuity.
This.
I would *so* call their bluff.
I wonder if Trump tips. Funny, just thinking about it we seem to know
the answer, no?
"Former President Donald Trump made an unscheduled campaign stop at >>>>>>> Tony and Nick's Steaks in South Philadelphia on Saturday, prior to a >>>>>>> rally at Temple University in the key battleground state of
Pennsylvania. The visit, which came as a surprise to the restaurant's
owner, left a lasting impression on both staff and patrons.
Trump left a $500 tip and wrote "no taxes on tips" on the receipt, >>>>>>> aligning with his recent campaign stance to end taxation on tips for >>>>>>> service industry workers. This gesture highlighted a key issue facing
many small business owners and their employees across the country." >>>>>>>
https://www.israelhayom.com/2024/06/23/trump-leaves-500-tip-in-philadelphia-cheesesteak-shop/
All ya had to do is look dude.
"But... but... what about the narrative!?!"
Suzee, Traveler, and Capricorne won't let facts get in the way of a good
round
of Trump-bashing.
Well, let me get in on the Trump bashing by pointing out the number of >>>>> small businesses that were left in the lurch by Trump after doing work >>>>> for him. So I guess he's more than willing to be generous when it's >>>>> public facing, like handing out money to people with cameras and
reporters looking on but unwilling to pay businesses for the work he >>>>> contracted since there's no one watching.
There were no press or public around when he was showering the golf club >>>> staff
with $100 bills.
sure sounds like there were plenty of people around. Also he was doing
it face to face. Maybe it's easier for him to cheat people if they
aren't in front of him because it's a well known fact that he will
often cheat businesses out of the money they earned doing work for
him. It's apparently been an ongoing thing for him since he got into
business.
Laughter!
The claim that he does not tip is proven false. Why can't you just
admit it?
*Admit* it? Why can't you just read what's been said?
"...he's more than willing to be generous when it's
public facing..."
On Jan 2, 2026 at 1:00:25 PM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 1/2/2026 7:13 AM, NoBody wrote:
On Thu, 01 Jan 2026 19:20:51 -0500, shawn
<nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
On Thu, 1 Jan 2026 23:28:15 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
wrote:
On Jan 1, 2026 at 3:07:18 PM PST, "shawn" <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
wrote:
On Thu, 1 Jan 2026 20:33:28 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> >>>>>> wrote:
On Jan 1, 2026 at 7:14:05 AM PST, "NoBody" <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 19:11:12 -0500, Capricorne <capricorne@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Dec 31, 2025 at 11:57:44 AM PST, "shawn"
<nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 10:13:22 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
wrote:
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
In article <10ip638$3kkbb$2@dont-email.me>, atropos@mac.com wrote:
More and more restaurants around here are automatically adding tips to
the bill-- even for parties of just one or two-- as a mandatory charge.
They don't call them tips, since legally tips have to be voluntary. They
label them things like "staff health care fee" and "worker compensation
fee" and "living wage fee".
And of course even after they charge you one of those bullshit mandatory
fees, they still add the tip line at the bottom for you to pay them even
*more* money. Whenever I see one of these exciting new fees on the bill,
I just draw a line with an arrow from the tip line up to the fee, circle
it, and write, "That's your tip."
That reminds me; What's the deal with my FB feed containing several
postings
lecturing me to tip 40% and postings (suspiciously AI-generated) of
people's restaurant bills with comments written about the tip? I saw one
in which the
waiter presumably wrote on a bill with no tip that they were calling the
cops.
LOL. If a waiter ever wrote such a thing I would definitely not tip.
Even if I loved their service. Just to see if they were foolish enough
to call the cops out for my deciding not to offer an optional >>>>>>>>>>> gratuity.
This.
I would *so* call their bluff.
I wonder if Trump tips. Funny, just thinking about it we seem to know
the answer, no?
"Former President Donald Trump made an unscheduled campaign stop at
Tony and Nick's Steaks in South Philadelphia on Saturday, prior to a
rally at Temple University in the key battleground state of >>>>>>>> Pennsylvania. The visit, which came as a surprise to the restaurant's
owner, left a lasting impression on both staff and patrons. >>>>>>>>
Trump left a $500 tip and wrote "no taxes on tips" on the receipt, >>>>>>>> aligning with his recent campaign stance to end taxation on tips for
service industry workers. This gesture highlighted a key issue facing
many small business owners and their employees across the country."
https://www.israelhayom.com/2024/06/23/trump-leaves-500-tip-in-philadelphia-cheesesteak-shop/
All ya had to do is look dude.
"But... but... what about the narrative!?!"
Suzee, Traveler, and Capricorne won't let facts get in the way of a good
round
of Trump-bashing.
Well, let me get in on the Trump bashing by pointing out the number of >>>>>> small businesses that were left in the lurch by Trump after doing work >>>>>> for him. So I guess he's more than willing to be generous when it's >>>>>> public facing, like handing out money to people with cameras and >>>>>> reporters looking on but unwilling to pay businesses for the work he >>>>>> contracted since there's no one watching.
There were no press or public around when he was showering the golf club
staff
with $100 bills.
sure sounds like there were plenty of people around. Also he was doing >>>> it face to face. Maybe it's easier for him to cheat people if they
aren't in front of him because it's a well known fact that he will
often cheat businesses out of the money they earned doing work for
him. It's apparently been an ongoing thing for him since he got into >>>> business.
Laughter!
The claim that he does not tip is proven false. Why can't you just
admit it?
*Admit* it? Why can't you just read what's been said?
"...he's more than willing to be generous when it's
public facing..."
Except my golf tip example was inside a USSS secure perimeter. No general public or press were present.
On 1/2/2026 4:34 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jan 2, 2026 at 1:00:25 PM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 1/2/2026 7:13 AM, NoBody wrote:
On Thu, 01 Jan 2026 19:20:51 -0500, shawn
<nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
On Thu, 1 Jan 2026 23:28:15 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> >>>>> wrote:
On Jan 1, 2026 at 3:07:18 PM PST, "shawn" <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
wrote:
On Thu, 1 Jan 2026 20:33:28 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> >>>>>>> wrote:
On Jan 1, 2026 at 7:14:05 AM PST, "NoBody" <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 19:11:12 -0500, Capricorne <capricorne@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Dec 31, 2025 at 11:57:44 AM PST, "shawn"
<nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 10:13:22 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
wrote:
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
In article <10ip638$3kkbb$2@dont-email.me>, atropos@mac.com wrote:
More and more restaurants around here are automatically adding tips to
the bill-- even for parties of just one or two-- as a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mandatory charge.
They don't call them tips, since legally tips have to be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> voluntary. They
label them things like "staff health care fee" and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "worker compensation
fee" and "living wage fee".
And of course even after they charge you one of those >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bullshit mandatory
fees, they still add the tip line at the bottom for you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to pay them even
*more* money. Whenever I see one of these exciting new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fees on the bill,
I just draw a line with an arrow from the tip line up to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the fee, circle
it, and write, "That's your tip."
That reminds me; What's the deal with my FB feed containing several
postings
lecturing me to tip 40% and postings (suspiciously AI-generated) of
people's restaurant bills with comments written about the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> tip? I saw one
in which the
waiter presumably wrote on a bill with no tip that they >>>>>>>>>>>>>> were calling the
cops.
LOL. If a waiter ever wrote such a thing I would definitely not tip.
Even if I loved their service. Just to see if they were foolish enough
to call the cops out for my deciding not to offer an optional
gratuity.
This.
I would *so* call their bluff.
I wonder if Trump tips. Funny, just thinking about it we seem to know
the answer, no?
"Former President Donald Trump made an unscheduled campaign stop at
Tony and Nick's Steaks in South Philadelphia on Saturday, prior to a
rally at Temple University in the key battleground state of >>>>>>>>> Pennsylvania. The visit, which came as a surprise to the restaurant's
owner, left a lasting impression on both staff and patrons. >>>>>>>>>
Trump left a $500 tip and wrote "no taxes on tips" on the receipt,
aligning with his recent campaign stance to end taxation on tips for
service industry workers. This gesture highlighted a key issue facing
many small business owners and their employees across the country."
https://www.israelhayom.com/2024/06/23/trump-leaves-500-tip-in-philadelphia-cheesesteak-shop/
All ya had to do is look dude.
"But... but... what about the narrative!?!"
Suzee, Traveler, and Capricorne won't let facts get in the way of a good
round
of Trump-bashing.
Well, let me get in on the Trump bashing by pointing out the number of
small businesses that were left in the lurch by Trump after doing work
for him. So I guess he's more than willing to be generous when it's >>>>>>> public facing, like handing out money to people with cameras and >>>>>>> reporters looking on but unwilling to pay businesses for the work he >>>>>>> contracted since there's no one watching.
There were no press or public around when he was showering the golf club
staff
with $100 bills.
sure sounds like there were plenty of people around. Also he was doing >>>>> it face to face. Maybe it's easier for him to cheat people if they >>>>> aren't in front of him because it's a well known fact that he will >>>>> often cheat businesses out of the money they earned doing work for >>>>> him. It's apparently been an ongoing thing for him since he got into >>>>> business.
Laughter!
The claim that he does not tip is proven false. Why can't you just >>>> admit it?
*Admit* it? Why can't you just read what's been said?
"...he's more than willing to be generous when it's
public facing..."
Except my golf tip example was inside a USSS secure perimeter. No general >> public or press were present.
I'm not sure you're really "tipping" someone who's expected to jump
between you and a bullet. But, yes, if he wasn't trying to bolster his reputation for largess, then his motives for tipping may have been as
pure as yours or mine would be. Unlikely, imo, but possible.
On Jan 2, 2026 at 3:17:35 PM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 1/2/2026 4:34 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jan 2, 2026 at 1:00:25 PM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>
On 1/2/2026 7:13 AM, NoBody wrote:
On Thu, 01 Jan 2026 19:20:51 -0500, shawn
<nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
On Thu, 1 Jan 2026 23:28:15 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> >>>>>> wrote:
On Jan 1, 2026 at 3:07:18 PM PST, "shawn" <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
wrote:
On Thu, 1 Jan 2026 20:33:28 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> >>>>>>>> wrote:
On Jan 1, 2026 at 7:14:05 AM PST, "NoBody" <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 19:11:12 -0500, Capricorne <capricorne@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Dec 31, 2025 at 11:57:44 AM PST, "shawn"
<nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 10:13:22 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
wrote:
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
In article <10ip638$3kkbb$2@dont-email.me>, atropos@mac.com wrote:
More and more restaurants around here are automatically adding tips to
the bill-- even for parties of just one or two-- as a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mandatory charge.
They don't call them tips, since legally tips have to be
voluntary. They
label them things like "staff health care fee" and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "worker compensation
fee" and "living wage fee".
And of course even after they charge you one of those >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bullshit mandatory
fees, they still add the tip line at the bottom for you
to pay them even
*more* money. Whenever I see one of these exciting new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fees on the bill,
I just draw a line with an arrow from the tip line up to
the fee, circle
it, and write, "That's your tip."
That reminds me; What's the deal with my FB feed containing several
postings
lecturing me to tip 40% and postings (suspiciously AI-generated) of
people's restaurant bills with comments written about the
tip? I saw one
in which the
waiter presumably wrote on a bill with no tip that they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were calling the
cops.
LOL. If a waiter ever wrote such a thing I would definitely not tip.
Even if I loved their service. Just to see if they were foolish enough
to call the cops out for my deciding not to offer an optional
gratuity.
This.
I would *so* call their bluff.
I wonder if Trump tips. Funny, just thinking about it we seem to know
the answer, no?
"Former President Donald Trump made an unscheduled campaign stop at
Tony and Nick's Steaks in South Philadelphia on Saturday, prior to a
rally at Temple University in the key battleground state of >>>>>>>>>> Pennsylvania. The visit, which came as a surprise to the restaurant's
owner, left a lasting impression on both staff and patrons. >>>>>>>>>>
Trump left a $500 tip and wrote "no taxes on tips" on the receipt,
aligning with his recent campaign stance to end taxation on tips for
service industry workers. This gesture highlighted a key issue facing
many small business owners and their employees across the country."
https://www.israelhayom.com/2024/06/23/trump-leaves-500-tip-in-philadelphia-cheesesteak-shop/
All ya had to do is look dude.
"But... but... what about the narrative!?!"
Suzee, Traveler, and Capricorne won't let facts get in the way of a good
round
of Trump-bashing.
Well, let me get in on the Trump bashing by pointing out the number of
small businesses that were left in the lurch by Trump after doing work
for him. So I guess he's more than willing to be generous when it's
public facing, like handing out money to people with cameras and >>>>>>>> reporters looking on but unwilling to pay businesses for the work he
contracted since there's no one watching.
There were no press or public around when he was showering the golf club
staff
with $100 bills.
sure sounds like there were plenty of people around. Also he was doing
it face to face. Maybe it's easier for him to cheat people if they >>>>>> aren't in front of him because it's a well known fact that he will >>>>>> often cheat businesses out of the money they earned doing work for >>>>>> him. It's apparently been an ongoing thing for him since he got into >>>>>> business.
Laughter!
The claim that he does not tip is proven false. Why can't you just >>>>> admit it?
*Admit* it? Why can't you just read what's been said?
"...he's more than willing to be generous when it's
public facing..."
Except my golf tip example was inside a USSS secure perimeter. No general >>> public or press were present.
I'm not sure you're really "tipping" someone who's expected to jump
between you and a bullet. But, yes, if he wasn't trying to bolster his
reputation for largess, then his motives for tipping may have been as
pure as yours or mine would be. Unlikely, imo, but possible.
He wasn't just trying to tip the agents. He was tipping everyone. The hostess,
the club concierge, the caddies, the towel boys, the girl who brought snacks and drinks, etc.
On 1/2/2026 7:13 AM, NoBody wrote:
On Thu, 01 Jan 2026 19:20:51 -0500, shawn
<nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
On Thu, 1 Jan 2026 23:28:15 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
wrote:
On Jan 1, 2026 at 3:07:18 PM PST, "shawn" <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> >>>> wrote:
On Thu, 1 Jan 2026 20:33:28 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
wrote:
On Jan 1, 2026 at 7:14:05 AM PST, "NoBody" <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>>>>
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 19:11:12 -0500, Capricorne <capricorne@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote:
On Dec 31, 2025 at 11:57:44 AM PST, "shawn"
<nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 10:13:22 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
In article <10ip638$3kkbb$2@dont-email.me>, atropos@mac.com wrote:
More and more restaurants around here are automatically adding tips to
the bill-- even for parties of just one or two-- as a mandatory charge.
They don't call them tips, since legally tips have to be voluntary. They
label them things like "staff health care fee" and "worker compensation
fee" and "living wage fee".
And of course even after they charge you one of those bullshit mandatory
fees, they still add the tip line at the bottom for you to pay them even
*more* money. Whenever I see one of these exciting new fees on the bill,
I just draw a line with an arrow from the tip line up to the fee, circle
it, and write, "That's your tip."
That reminds me; What's the deal with my FB feed containing several
postings
lecturing me to tip 40% and postings (suspiciously AI-generated) of
people's restaurant bills with comments written about the tip? I saw one
in which the
waiter presumably wrote on a bill with no tip that they were calling the
cops.
LOL. If a waiter ever wrote such a thing I would definitely not tip.
Even if I loved their service. Just to see if they were foolish enough
to call the cops out for my deciding not to offer an optional >>>>>>>>>> gratuity.
This.
I would *so* call their bluff.
I wonder if Trump tips. Funny, just thinking about it we seem to know
the answer, no?
"Former President Donald Trump made an unscheduled campaign stop at >>>>>>> Tony and Nick's Steaks in South Philadelphia on Saturday, prior to a >>>>>>> rally at Temple University in the key battleground state of
Pennsylvania. The visit, which came as a surprise to the restaurant's >>>>>>> owner, left a lasting impression on both staff and patrons.
Trump left a $500 tip and wrote "no taxes on tips" on the receipt, >>>>>>> aligning with his recent campaign stance to end taxation on tips for >>>>>>> service industry workers. This gesture highlighted a key issue facing >>>>>>> many small business owners and their employees across the country." >>>>>>>
https://www.israelhayom.com/2024/06/23/trump-leaves-500-tip-in-philadelphia-cheesesteak-shop/
All ya had to do is look dude.
"But... but... what about the narrative!?!"
Suzee, Traveler, and Capricorne won't let facts get in the way of a good >>>>>> round
of Trump-bashing.
Well, let me get in on the Trump bashing by pointing out the number of >>>>> small businesses that were left in the lurch by Trump after doing work >>>>> for him. So I guess he's more than willing to be generous when it's
public facing, like handing out money to people with cameras and
reporters looking on but unwilling to pay businesses for the work he >>>>> contracted since there's no one watching.
There were no press or public around when he was showering the golf club staff
with $100 bills.
sure sounds like there were plenty of people around. Also he was doing
it face to face. Maybe it's easier for him to cheat people if they
aren't in front of him because it's a well known fact that he will
often cheat businesses out of the money they earned doing work for
him. It's apparently been an ongoing thing for him since he got into
business.
Laughter!
The claim that he does not tip is proven false. Why can't you just
admit it?
*Admit* it? Why can't you just read what's been said?
"...he's more than willing to be generous when it's
public facing..."
On Jan 2, 2026 at 1:00:25 PM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 1/2/2026 7:13 AM, NoBody wrote:
On Thu, 01 Jan 2026 19:20:51 -0500, shawn
<nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
On Thu, 1 Jan 2026 23:28:15 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
wrote:
On Jan 1, 2026 at 3:07:18 PM PST, "shawn" <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
wrote:
On Thu, 1 Jan 2026 20:33:28 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> >>>>>> wrote:
On Jan 1, 2026 at 7:14:05 AM PST, "NoBody" <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>>>>>
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 19:11:12 -0500, Capricorne <capricorne@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Dec 31, 2025 at 11:57:44 AM PST, "shawn"
<nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 10:13:22 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
wrote:
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
In article <10ip638$3kkbb$2@dont-email.me>, atropos@mac.com wrote:
More and more restaurants around here are automatically adding tips to
the bill-- even for parties of just one or two-- as a mandatory charge.
They don't call them tips, since legally tips have to be voluntary. They
label them things like "staff health care fee" and "worker compensation
fee" and "living wage fee".
And of course even after they charge you one of those bullshit mandatory
fees, they still add the tip line at the bottom for you to pay them even
*more* money. Whenever I see one of these exciting new fees on the bill,
I just draw a line with an arrow from the tip line up to the fee, circle
it, and write, "That's your tip."
That reminds me; What's the deal with my FB feed containing several
postings
lecturing me to tip 40% and postings (suspiciously AI-generated) of
people's restaurant bills with comments written about the tip? I saw one
in which the
waiter presumably wrote on a bill with no tip that they were calling the
cops.
LOL. If a waiter ever wrote such a thing I would definitely not tip.
Even if I loved their service. Just to see if they were foolish enough
to call the cops out for my deciding not to offer an optional >>>>>>>>>>> gratuity.
This.
I would *so* call their bluff.
I wonder if Trump tips. Funny, just thinking about it we seem to know
the answer, no?
"Former President Donald Trump made an unscheduled campaign stop at >>>>>>>> Tony and Nick's Steaks in South Philadelphia on Saturday, prior to a
rally at Temple University in the key battleground state of >>>>>>>> Pennsylvania. The visit, which came as a surprise to the restaurant's
owner, left a lasting impression on both staff and patrons. >>>>>>>>
Trump left a $500 tip and wrote "no taxes on tips" on the receipt, >>>>>>>> aligning with his recent campaign stance to end taxation on tips for
service industry workers. This gesture highlighted a key issue facing
many small business owners and their employees across the country." >>>>>>>>
https://www.israelhayom.com/2024/06/23/trump-leaves-500-tip-in-philadelphia-cheesesteak-shop/
All ya had to do is look dude.
"But... but... what about the narrative!?!"
Suzee, Traveler, and Capricorne won't let facts get in the way of a good
round
of Trump-bashing.
Well, let me get in on the Trump bashing by pointing out the number of >>>>>> small businesses that were left in the lurch by Trump after doing work >>>>>> for him. So I guess he's more than willing to be generous when it's >>>>>> public facing, like handing out money to people with cameras and
reporters looking on but unwilling to pay businesses for the work he >>>>>> contracted since there's no one watching.
There were no press or public around when he was showering the golf club >>>>> staff
with $100 bills.
sure sounds like there were plenty of people around. Also he was doing >>>> it face to face. Maybe it's easier for him to cheat people if they
aren't in front of him because it's a well known fact that he will
often cheat businesses out of the money they earned doing work for
him. It's apparently been an ongoing thing for him since he got into
business.
Laughter!
The claim that he does not tip is proven false. Why can't you just
admit it?
*Admit* it? Why can't you just read what's been said?
"...he's more than willing to be generous when it's
public facing..."
Except my golf tip example was inside a USSS secure perimeter. No general >public or press were present.
On 1/2/2026 4:34 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jan 2, 2026 at 1:00:25 PM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 1/2/2026 7:13 AM, NoBody wrote:
On Thu, 01 Jan 2026 19:20:51 -0500, shawn
<nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
On Thu, 1 Jan 2026 23:28:15 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> >>>>> wrote:
On Jan 1, 2026 at 3:07:18 PM PST, "shawn" <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
wrote:
On Thu, 1 Jan 2026 20:33:28 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> >>>>>>> wrote:
On Jan 1, 2026 at 7:14:05 AM PST, "NoBody" <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 19:11:12 -0500, Capricorne <capricorne@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Dec 31, 2025 at 11:57:44 AM PST, "shawn"
<nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 10:13:22 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
wrote:
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
In article <10ip638$3kkbb$2@dont-email.me>, atropos@mac.com wrote:
More and more restaurants around here are automatically adding tips to
the bill-- even for parties of just one or two-- as a mandatory charge.
They don't call them tips, since legally tips have to be voluntary. They
label them things like "staff health care fee" and "worker compensation
fee" and "living wage fee".
And of course even after they charge you one of those bullshit mandatory
fees, they still add the tip line at the bottom for you to pay them even
*more* money. Whenever I see one of these exciting new fees on the bill,
I just draw a line with an arrow from the tip line up to the fee, circle
it, and write, "That's your tip."
That reminds me; What's the deal with my FB feed containing several
postings
lecturing me to tip 40% and postings (suspiciously AI-generated) of
people's restaurant bills with comments written about the tip? I saw one
in which the
waiter presumably wrote on a bill with no tip that they were calling the
cops.
LOL. If a waiter ever wrote such a thing I would definitely not tip.
Even if I loved their service. Just to see if they were foolish enough
to call the cops out for my deciding not to offer an optional >>>>>>>>>>>> gratuity.
This.
I would *so* call their bluff.
I wonder if Trump tips. Funny, just thinking about it we seem to know
the answer, no?
"Former President Donald Trump made an unscheduled campaign stop at
Tony and Nick's Steaks in South Philadelphia on Saturday, prior to a
rally at Temple University in the key battleground state of >>>>>>>>> Pennsylvania. The visit, which came as a surprise to the restaurant's
owner, left a lasting impression on both staff and patrons. >>>>>>>>>
Trump left a $500 tip and wrote "no taxes on tips" on the receipt,
aligning with his recent campaign stance to end taxation on tips for
service industry workers. This gesture highlighted a key issue facing
many small business owners and their employees across the country."
https://www.israelhayom.com/2024/06/23/trump-leaves-500-tip-in-philadelphia-cheesesteak-shop/
All ya had to do is look dude.
"But... but... what about the narrative!?!"
Suzee, Traveler, and Capricorne won't let facts get in the way of a good
round
of Trump-bashing.
Well, let me get in on the Trump bashing by pointing out the number of
small businesses that were left in the lurch by Trump after doing work
for him. So I guess he's more than willing to be generous when it's >>>>>>> public facing, like handing out money to people with cameras and >>>>>>> reporters looking on but unwilling to pay businesses for the work he >>>>>>> contracted since there's no one watching.
There were no press or public around when he was showering the golf club
staff
with $100 bills.
sure sounds like there were plenty of people around. Also he was doing >>>>> it face to face. Maybe it's easier for him to cheat people if they >>>>> aren't in front of him because it's a well known fact that he will >>>>> often cheat businesses out of the money they earned doing work for >>>>> him. It's apparently been an ongoing thing for him since he got into >>>>> business.
Laughter!
The claim that he does not tip is proven false. Why can't you just
admit it?
*Admit* it? Why can't you just read what's been said?
"...he's more than willing to be generous when it's
public facing..."
Except my golf tip example was inside a USSS secure perimeter. No general
public or press were present.
I'm not sure you're really "tipping" someone who's expected to jump
between you and a bullet. But, yes, if he wasn't trying to bolster his >reputation for largess, then his motives for tipping may have been as
pure as yours or mine would be. Unlikely, imo, but possible.
On 1/2/2026 7:45 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jan 2, 2026 at 3:17:35 PM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 1/2/2026 4:34 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jan 2, 2026 at 1:00:25 PM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>>
On 1/2/2026 7:13 AM, NoBody wrote:
On Thu, 01 Jan 2026 19:20:51 -0500, shawn
<nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
On Thu, 1 Jan 2026 23:28:15 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> >>>>>>> wrote:
On Jan 1, 2026 at 3:07:18 PM PST, "shawn" <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
wrote:
On Thu, 1 Jan 2026 20:33:28 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
wrote:
On Jan 1, 2026 at 7:14:05 AM PST, "NoBody" <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 19:11:12 -0500, Capricorne <capricorne@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Dec 31, 2025 at 11:57:44 AM PST, "shawn"
<nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 10:13:22 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
wrote:
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
In article <10ip638$3kkbb$2@dont-email.me>, atropos@mac.com wrote:
More and more restaurants around here are automatically adding tips to
the bill-- even for parties of just one or two-- as a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mandatory charge.
They don't call them tips, since legally tips have to be
voluntary. They
label them things like "staff health care fee" and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "worker compensation
fee" and "living wage fee".
And of course even after they charge you one of those >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bullshit mandatory
fees, they still add the tip line at the bottom for you
to pay them even
*more* money. Whenever I see one of these exciting new
fees on the bill,
I just draw a line with an arrow from the tip line up to
the fee, circle
it, and write, "That's your tip."
That reminds me; What's the deal with my FB feed containing several
postings
lecturing me to tip 40% and postings (suspiciously AI-generated) of
people's restaurant bills with comments written about the
tip? I saw one
in which the
waiter presumably wrote on a bill with no tip that they
were calling the
cops.
LOL. If a waiter ever wrote such a thing I would definitely not tip.
Even if I loved their service. Just to see if they were foolish enough
to call the cops out for my deciding not to offer an optional
gratuity.
This.
I would *so* call their bluff.
I wonder if Trump tips. Funny, just thinking about it we seem to know
the answer, no?
"Former President Donald Trump made an unscheduled campaign stop at
Tony and Nick's Steaks in South Philadelphia on Saturday, prior to a
rally at Temple University in the key battleground state of >>>>>>>>>>> Pennsylvania. The visit, which came as a surprise to the restaurant's
owner, left a lasting impression on both staff and patrons. >>>>>>>>>>>
Trump left a $500 tip and wrote "no taxes on tips" on the receipt,
aligning with his recent campaign stance to end taxation on tips for
service industry workers. This gesture highlighted a key issue facing
many small business owners and their employees across the country."
https://www.israelhayom.com/2024/06/23/trump-leaves-500-tip-in-philadelphia-cheesesteak-shop/
All ya had to do is look dude.
"But... but... what about the narrative!?!"
Suzee, Traveler, and Capricorne won't let facts get in the way of a good
round
of Trump-bashing.
Well, let me get in on the Trump bashing by pointing out the number of
small businesses that were left in the lurch by Trump after doing work
for him. So I guess he's more than willing to be generous when it's
public facing, like handing out money to people with cameras and >>>>>>>>> reporters looking on but unwilling to pay businesses for the work he
contracted since there's no one watching.
There were no press or public around when he was showering the golf club
staff
with $100 bills.
sure sounds like there were plenty of people around. Also he was doing
it face to face. Maybe it's easier for him to cheat people if they >>>>>>> aren't in front of him because it's a well known fact that he will >>>>>>> often cheat businesses out of the money they earned doing work for >>>>>>> him. It's apparently been an ongoing thing for him since he got into
business.
Laughter!
The claim that he does not tip is proven false. Why can't you just >>>>>> admit it?
*Admit* it? Why can't you just read what's been said?
"...he's more than willing to be generous when it's
public facing..."
Except my golf tip example was inside a USSS secure perimeter. No general
public or press were present.
I'm not sure you're really "tipping" someone who's expected to jump
between you and a bullet. But, yes, if he wasn't trying to bolster his
reputation for largess, then his motives for tipping may have been as
pure as yours or mine would be. Unlikely, imo, but possible.
He wasn't just trying to tip the agents. He was tipping everyone. The hostess,
the club concierge, the caddies, the towel boys, the girl who brought snacks >> and drinks, etc.
I have no more to add, but, fwiw, here's Google's AI:
Yes, Donald Trump does tip, though his practices are inconsistent
and sometimes motivated by avoiding bad press; he's been described as >tipping generously with $100 bills to staff at his properties but also >admitted in 2025 he tips mostly to prevent negative publicity, though he
has also been seen leaving large tips, like $500 at a Philly cheesesteak >spot. His public stance has evolved, including policies proposed to make >tipped income tax-free, while also facing criticism for past rules
allowing employers to pocket tips.
On 1/2/2026 7:11 AM, NoBody wrote:
On Thu, 1 Jan 2026 20:33:28 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
wrote:
On Jan 1, 2026 at 7:14:05 AM PST, "NoBody" <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:Yep. Being that they are liberals, they are concerned with narrative,
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 19:11:12 -0500, Capricorne <capricorne@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Dec 31, 2025 at 11:57:44 AM PST, "shawn" <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 10:13:22 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> >>>>>>> wrote:
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
In article <10ip638$3kkbb$2@dont-email.me>, atropos@mac.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>
More and more restaurants around here are automatically adding tips to
the bill-- even for parties of just one or two-- as a mandatory charge.
They don't call them tips, since legally tips have to be voluntary. They
label them things like "staff health care fee" and "worker compensation
fee" and "living wage fee".
And of course even after they charge you one of those bullshit mandatory
fees, they still add the tip line at the bottom for you to pay them even
*more* money. Whenever I see one of these exciting new fees on the bill,
I just draw a line with an arrow from the tip line up to the fee, circle
it, and write, "That's your tip."
That reminds me; What's the deal with my FB feed containing several
postings
lecturing me to tip 40% and postings (suspiciously AI-generated) of
people's restaurant bills with comments written about the tip? I saw one
in which the
waiter presumably wrote on a bill with no tip that they were calling the
cops.
LOL. If a waiter ever wrote such a thing I would definitely not tip. >>>>>>> Even if I loved their service. Just to see if they were foolish enough
to call the cops out for my deciding not to offer an optional
gratuity.
This.
I would *so* call their bluff.
I wonder if Trump tips. Funny, just thinking about it we seem to know >>>>> the answer, no?
"Former President Donald Trump made an unscheduled campaign stop at
Tony and Nick's Steaks in South Philadelphia on Saturday, prior to a
rally at Temple University in the key battleground state of
Pennsylvania. The visit, which came as a surprise to the restaurant's
owner, left a lasting impression on both staff and patrons.
Trump left a $500 tip and wrote "no taxes on tips" on the receipt,
aligning with his recent campaign stance to end taxation on tips for
service industry workers. This gesture highlighted a key issue facing
many small business owners and their employees across the country."
https://www.israelhayom.com/2024/06/23/trump-leaves-500-tip-in-philadelphia-cheesesteak-shop/
All ya had to do is look dude.
"But... but... what about the narrative!?!"
Suzee, Traveler, and Capricorne won't let facts get in the way of a good round
of Trump-bashing.
not truth and fact.
Gracious me! Surely you must need an oxygen mask at that height...
On Fri, 2 Jan 2026 22:55:52 -0500, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On 1/2/2026 7:45 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jan 2, 2026 at 3:17:35 PM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>
On 1/2/2026 4:34 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jan 2, 2026 at 1:00:25 PM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 1/2/2026 7:13 AM, NoBody wrote:
On Thu, 01 Jan 2026 19:20:51 -0500, shawn
<nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
On Thu, 1 Jan 2026 23:28:15 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
wrote:
On Jan 1, 2026 at 3:07:18 PM PST, "shawn" <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
wrote:
On Thu, 1 Jan 2026 20:33:28 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
wrote:
On Jan 1, 2026 at 7:14:05 AM PST, "NoBody" <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 19:11:12 -0500, Capricorne <capricorne@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Dec 31, 2025 at 11:57:44 AM PST, "shawn" >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 10:13:22 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
wrote:
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <10ip638$3kkbb$2@dont-email.me>, atropos@mac.com wrote:
More and more restaurants around here are automatically adding tips to
the bill-- even for parties of just one or two-- as a
mandatory charge.
They don't call them tips, since legally tips have to be
voluntary. They
label them things like "staff health care fee" and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "worker compensation
fee" and "living wage fee".
And of course even after they charge you one of those
bullshit mandatory
fees, they still add the tip line at the bottom for you
to pay them even
*more* money. Whenever I see one of these exciting new
fees on the bill,
I just draw a line with an arrow from the tip line up to
the fee, circle
it, and write, "That's your tip."
That reminds me; What's the deal with my FB feed containing several
postings
lecturing me to tip 40% and postings (suspiciously AI-generated) of
people's restaurant bills with comments written about the
tip? I saw one
in which the
waiter presumably wrote on a bill with no tip that they
were calling the
cops.
LOL. If a waiter ever wrote such a thing I would definitely not tip.
Even if I loved their service. Just to see if they were foolish enough
to call the cops out for my deciding not to offer an optional
gratuity.
This.
I would *so* call their bluff.
I wonder if Trump tips. Funny, just thinking about it we seem to know
the answer, no?
"Former President Donald Trump made an unscheduled campaign stop at
Tony and Nick's Steaks in South Philadelphia on Saturday, prior to a
rally at Temple University in the key battleground state of >>>>>>>>>>>> Pennsylvania. The visit, which came as a surprise to the restaurant's
owner, left a lasting impression on both staff and patrons. >>>>>>>>>>>>
Trump left a $500 tip and wrote "no taxes on tips" on the receipt,
aligning with his recent campaign stance to end taxation on tips for
service industry workers. This gesture highlighted a key issue facing
many small business owners and their employees across the country."
https://www.israelhayom.com/2024/06/23/trump-leaves-500-tip-in-philadelphia-cheesesteak-shop/
All ya had to do is look dude.
"But... but... what about the narrative!?!"
Suzee, Traveler, and Capricorne won't let facts get in the way of a good
round
of Trump-bashing.
Well, let me get in on the Trump bashing by pointing out the number of
small businesses that were left in the lurch by Trump after doing work
for him. So I guess he's more than willing to be generous when it's
public facing, like handing out money to people with cameras and
reporters looking on but unwilling to pay businesses for the work he
contracted since there's no one watching.
There were no press or public around when he was showering the golf club
staff
with $100 bills.
sure sounds like there were plenty of people around. Also he was doing
it face to face. Maybe it's easier for him to cheat people if they
aren't in front of him because it's a well known fact that he will
often cheat businesses out of the money they earned doing work for
him. It's apparently been an ongoing thing for him since he got into
business.
Laughter!
The claim that he does not tip is proven false. Why can't you just
admit it?
*Admit* it? Why can't you just read what's been said?
"...he's more than willing to be generous when it's
public facing..."
Except my golf tip example was inside a USSS secure perimeter. No general
public or press were present.
I'm not sure you're really "tipping" someone who's expected to jump
between you and a bullet. But, yes, if he wasn't trying to bolster his >>>> reputation for largess, then his motives for tipping may have been as
pure as yours or mine would be. Unlikely, imo, but possible.
He wasn't just trying to tip the agents. He was tipping everyone. The hostess,
the club concierge, the caddies, the towel boys, the girl who brought snacks
and drinks, etc.
I have no more to add, but, fwiw, here's Google's AI:
Yes, Donald Trump does tip, though his practices are inconsistent
and sometimes motivated by avoiding bad press; he's been described as
tipping generously with $100 bills to staff at his properties but also
admitted in 2025 he tips mostly to prevent negative publicity, though he
has also been seen leaving large tips, like $500 at a Philly cheesesteak
spot. His public stance has evolved, including policies proposed to make
tipped income tax-free, while also facing criticism for past rules
allowing employers to pocket tips.
AI: The only source that says "information provided here may be
wrong".
Quoting AI is worse than citing Wikipedia.
On Fri, 2 Jan 2026 18:17:35 -0500, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On 1/2/2026 4:34 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jan 2, 2026 at 1:00:25 PM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>
On 1/2/2026 7:13 AM, NoBody wrote:
On Thu, 01 Jan 2026 19:20:51 -0500, shawn
<nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
On Thu, 1 Jan 2026 23:28:15 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> >>>>>> wrote:
On Jan 1, 2026 at 3:07:18 PM PST, "shawn" <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
wrote:
On Thu, 1 Jan 2026 20:33:28 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> >>>>>>>> wrote:
On Jan 1, 2026 at 7:14:05 AM PST, "NoBody" <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 19:11:12 -0500, Capricorne <capricorne@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Dec 31, 2025 at 11:57:44 AM PST, "shawn"
<nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 10:13:22 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
wrote:
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
In article <10ip638$3kkbb$2@dont-email.me>, atropos@mac.com wrote:
More and more restaurants around here are automatically adding tips to
the bill-- even for parties of just one or two-- as a mandatory charge.
They don't call them tips, since legally tips have to be voluntary. They
label them things like "staff health care fee" and "worker compensation
fee" and "living wage fee".
And of course even after they charge you one of those bullshit mandatory
fees, they still add the tip line at the bottom for you to pay them even
*more* money. Whenever I see one of these exciting new fees on the bill,
I just draw a line with an arrow from the tip line up to the fee, circle
it, and write, "That's your tip."
That reminds me; What's the deal with my FB feed containing several
postings
lecturing me to tip 40% and postings (suspiciously AI-generated) of
people's restaurant bills with comments written about the tip? I saw one
in which the
waiter presumably wrote on a bill with no tip that they were calling the
cops.
LOL. If a waiter ever wrote such a thing I would definitely not tip.
Even if I loved their service. Just to see if they were foolish enough
to call the cops out for my deciding not to offer an optional
gratuity.
This.
I would *so* call their bluff.
I wonder if Trump tips. Funny, just thinking about it we seem to know
the answer, no?
"Former President Donald Trump made an unscheduled campaign stop at
Tony and Nick's Steaks in South Philadelphia on Saturday, prior to a
rally at Temple University in the key battleground state of >>>>>>>>>> Pennsylvania. The visit, which came as a surprise to the restaurant's
owner, left a lasting impression on both staff and patrons. >>>>>>>>>>
Trump left a $500 tip and wrote "no taxes on tips" on the receipt,
aligning with his recent campaign stance to end taxation on tips for
service industry workers. This gesture highlighted a key issue facing
many small business owners and their employees across the country."
https://www.israelhayom.com/2024/06/23/trump-leaves-500-tip-in-philadelphia-cheesesteak-shop/
All ya had to do is look dude.
"But... but... what about the narrative!?!"
Suzee, Traveler, and Capricorne won't let facts get in the way of a good
round
of Trump-bashing.
Well, let me get in on the Trump bashing by pointing out the number of
small businesses that were left in the lurch by Trump after doing work
for him. So I guess he's more than willing to be generous when it's >>>>>>>> public facing, like handing out money to people with cameras and >>>>>>>> reporters looking on but unwilling to pay businesses for the work he
contracted since there's no one watching.
There were no press or public around when he was showering the golf club
staff
with $100 bills.
sure sounds like there were plenty of people around. Also he was doing
it face to face. Maybe it's easier for him to cheat people if they >>>>>> aren't in front of him because it's a well known fact that he will >>>>>> often cheat businesses out of the money they earned doing work for >>>>>> him. It's apparently been an ongoing thing for him since he got into >>>>>> business.
Laughter!
The claim that he does not tip is proven false. Why can't you just >>>>> admit it?
*Admit* it? Why can't you just read what's been said?
"...he's more than willing to be generous when it's
public facing..."
Except my golf tip example was inside a USSS secure perimeter. No general >>> public or press were present.
I'm not sure you're really "tipping" someone who's expected to jump
between you and a bullet. But, yes, if he wasn't trying to bolster his
reputation for largess, then his motives for tipping may have been as
pure as yours or mine would be. Unlikely, imo, but possible.
Now you're just evading.
You were proven wrong. Just admit it and move on.
On Fri, 2 Jan 2026 16:05:15 -0500, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On 1/2/2026 7:11 AM, NoBody wrote:
On Thu, 1 Jan 2026 20:33:28 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
wrote:
On Jan 1, 2026 at 7:14:05 AM PST, "NoBody" <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>>Yep. Being that they are liberals, they are concerned with narrative,
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 19:11:12 -0500, Capricorne <capricorne@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote:
On Dec 31, 2025 at 11:57:44 AM PST, "shawn" <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 10:13:22 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> >>>>>>>> wrote:
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
In article <10ip638$3kkbb$2@dont-email.me>, atropos@mac.com wrote:
More and more restaurants around here are automatically adding tips to
the bill-- even for parties of just one or two-- as a mandatory charge.
They don't call them tips, since legally tips have to be voluntary. They
label them things like "staff health care fee" and "worker compensation
fee" and "living wage fee".
And of course even after they charge you one of those bullshit mandatory
fees, they still add the tip line at the bottom for you to pay them even
*more* money. Whenever I see one of these exciting new fees on the bill,
I just draw a line with an arrow from the tip line up to the fee, circle
it, and write, "That's your tip."
That reminds me; What's the deal with my FB feed containing several
postings
lecturing me to tip 40% and postings (suspiciously AI-generated) of
people's restaurant bills with comments written about the tip? I saw one
in which the
waiter presumably wrote on a bill with no tip that they were calling the
cops.
LOL. If a waiter ever wrote such a thing I would definitely not tip.
Even if I loved their service. Just to see if they were foolish enough
to call the cops out for my deciding not to offer an optional >>>>>>>> gratuity.
This.
I would *so* call their bluff.
I wonder if Trump tips. Funny, just thinking about it we seem to know >>>>>> the answer, no?
"Former President Donald Trump made an unscheduled campaign stop at
Tony and Nick's Steaks in South Philadelphia on Saturday, prior to a >>>>> rally at Temple University in the key battleground state of
Pennsylvania. The visit, which came as a surprise to the restaurant's >>>>> owner, left a lasting impression on both staff and patrons.
Trump left a $500 tip and wrote "no taxes on tips" on the receipt,
aligning with his recent campaign stance to end taxation on tips for >>>>> service industry workers. This gesture highlighted a key issue facing >>>>> many small business owners and their employees across the country."
https://www.israelhayom.com/2024/06/23/trump-leaves-500-tip-in-philadelphia-cheesesteak-shop/
All ya had to do is look dude.
"But... but... what about the narrative!?!"
Suzee, Traveler, and Capricorne won't let facts get in the way of a good round
of Trump-bashing.
not truth and fact.
Gracious me! Surely you must need an oxygen mask at that height...
You have yet to prove me wrong. The claim was that Trump doesn't tip.
You've been proven wrong. Your responses thus far equates to "nut
uh".
On Fri, 2 Jan 2026 16:00:25 -0500, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On 1/2/2026 7:13 AM, NoBody wrote:
On Thu, 01 Jan 2026 19:20:51 -0500, shawn
<nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
On Thu, 1 Jan 2026 23:28:15 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
wrote:
On Jan 1, 2026 at 3:07:18 PM PST, "shawn" <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
wrote:
On Thu, 1 Jan 2026 20:33:28 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> >>>>>> wrote:
On Jan 1, 2026 at 7:14:05 AM PST, "NoBody" <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>>>>>
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 19:11:12 -0500, Capricorne <capricorne@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Dec 31, 2025 at 11:57:44 AM PST, "shawn"
<nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 10:13:22 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
wrote:
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
In article <10ip638$3kkbb$2@dont-email.me>, atropos@mac.com wrote:
More and more restaurants around here are automatically adding tips to
the bill-- even for parties of just one or two-- as a mandatory charge.
They don't call them tips, since legally tips have to be voluntary. They
label them things like "staff health care fee" and "worker compensation
fee" and "living wage fee".
And of course even after they charge you one of those bullshit mandatory
fees, they still add the tip line at the bottom for you to pay them even
*more* money. Whenever I see one of these exciting new fees on the bill,
I just draw a line with an arrow from the tip line up to the fee, circle
it, and write, "That's your tip."
That reminds me; What's the deal with my FB feed containing several
postings
lecturing me to tip 40% and postings (suspiciously AI-generated) of
people's restaurant bills with comments written about the tip? I saw one
in which the
waiter presumably wrote on a bill with no tip that they were calling the
cops.
LOL. If a waiter ever wrote such a thing I would definitely not tip.
Even if I loved their service. Just to see if they were foolish enough
to call the cops out for my deciding not to offer an optional >>>>>>>>>>> gratuity.
This.
I would *so* call their bluff.
I wonder if Trump tips. Funny, just thinking about it we seem to know
the answer, no?
"Former President Donald Trump made an unscheduled campaign stop at >>>>>>>> Tony and Nick's Steaks in South Philadelphia on Saturday, prior to a
rally at Temple University in the key battleground state of >>>>>>>> Pennsylvania. The visit, which came as a surprise to the restaurant's
owner, left a lasting impression on both staff and patrons. >>>>>>>>
Trump left a $500 tip and wrote "no taxes on tips" on the receipt, >>>>>>>> aligning with his recent campaign stance to end taxation on tips for
service industry workers. This gesture highlighted a key issue facing
many small business owners and their employees across the country." >>>>>>>>
https://www.israelhayom.com/2024/06/23/trump-leaves-500-tip-in-philadelphia-cheesesteak-shop/
All ya had to do is look dude.
"But... but... what about the narrative!?!"
Suzee, Traveler, and Capricorne won't let facts get in the way of a good
round
of Trump-bashing.
Well, let me get in on the Trump bashing by pointing out the number of >>>>>> small businesses that were left in the lurch by Trump after doing work >>>>>> for him. So I guess he's more than willing to be generous when it's >>>>>> public facing, like handing out money to people with cameras and
reporters looking on but unwilling to pay businesses for the work he >>>>>> contracted since there's no one watching.
There were no press or public around when he was showering the golf club staff
with $100 bills.
sure sounds like there were plenty of people around. Also he was doing >>>> it face to face. Maybe it's easier for him to cheat people if they
aren't in front of him because it's a well known fact that he will
often cheat businesses out of the money they earned doing work for
him. It's apparently been an ongoing thing for him since he got into
business.
Laughter!
The claim that he does not tip is proven false. Why can't you just
admit it?
*Admit* it? Why can't you just read what's been said?
"...he's more than willing to be generous when it's
public facing..."
So you add a condition not part of the discussion and try to use it as
the rule.
Tell you what. Since you think he stiff people on tips, find a
citation that proves this. All the evidence provided shows otherwise.
On 1/3/2026 9:46 AM, NoBody wrote:
On Fri, 2 Jan 2026 18:17:35 -0500, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On 1/2/2026 4:34 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jan 2, 2026 at 1:00:25 PM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>>
On 1/2/2026 7:13 AM, NoBody wrote:
On Thu, 01 Jan 2026 19:20:51 -0500, shawn
<nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
On Thu, 1 Jan 2026 23:28:15 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> >>>>>>> wrote:
On Jan 1, 2026 at 3:07:18 PM PST, "shawn" <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
wrote:
On Thu, 1 Jan 2026 20:33:28 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
On Jan 1, 2026 at 7:14:05 AM PST, "NoBody" <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 19:11:12 -0500, Capricorne <capricorne@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Dec 31, 2025 at 11:57:44 AM PST, "shawn"
<nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 10:13:22 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
wrote:
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
In article <10ip638$3kkbb$2@dont-email.me>, atropos@mac.com wrote:
More and more restaurants around here are automatically adding tips to
the bill-- even for parties of just one or two-- as a mandatory charge.
They don't call them tips, since legally tips have to be voluntary. They
label them things like "staff health care fee" and "worker compensation
fee" and "living wage fee".
And of course even after they charge you one of those bullshit mandatory
fees, they still add the tip line at the bottom for you to pay them even
*more* money. Whenever I see one of these exciting new fees on the bill,
I just draw a line with an arrow from the tip line up to the fee, circle
it, and write, "That's your tip."
That reminds me; What's the deal with my FB feed containing several
postings
lecturing me to tip 40% and postings (suspiciously AI-generated) of
people's restaurant bills with comments written about the tip? I saw one
in which the
waiter presumably wrote on a bill with no tip that they were calling the
cops.
LOL. If a waiter ever wrote such a thing I would definitely not tip.
Even if I loved their service. Just to see if they were foolish enough
to call the cops out for my deciding not to offer an optional
gratuity.
This.
I would *so* call their bluff.
I wonder if Trump tips. Funny, just thinking about it we seem to know
the answer, no?
"Former President Donald Trump made an unscheduled campaign stop at
Tony and Nick's Steaks in South Philadelphia on Saturday, prior to a
rally at Temple University in the key battleground state of >>>>>>>>>>> Pennsylvania. The visit, which came as a surprise to the restaurant's
owner, left a lasting impression on both staff and patrons. >>>>>>>>>>>
Trump left a $500 tip and wrote "no taxes on tips" on the receipt,
aligning with his recent campaign stance to end taxation on tips for
service industry workers. This gesture highlighted a key issue facing
many small business owners and their employees across the country."
https://www.israelhayom.com/2024/06/23/trump-leaves-500-tip-in-philadelphia-cheesesteak-shop/
All ya had to do is look dude.
"But... but... what about the narrative!?!"
Suzee, Traveler, and Capricorne won't let facts get in the way of a good
round
of Trump-bashing.
Well, let me get in on the Trump bashing by pointing out the number of
small businesses that were left in the lurch by Trump after doing work
for him. So I guess he's more than willing to be generous when it's
public facing, like handing out money to people with cameras and >>>>>>>>> reporters looking on but unwilling to pay businesses for the work he
contracted since there's no one watching.
There were no press or public around when he was showering the golf club
staff
with $100 bills.
sure sounds like there were plenty of people around. Also he was doing
it face to face. Maybe it's easier for him to cheat people if they >>>>>>> aren't in front of him because it's a well known fact that he will >>>>>>> often cheat businesses out of the money they earned doing work for >>>>>>> him. It's apparently been an ongoing thing for him since he got into >>>>>>> business.
Laughter!
The claim that he does not tip is proven false. Why can't you just >>>>>> admit it?
*Admit* it? Why can't you just read what's been said?
"...he's more than willing to be generous when it's
public facing..."
Except my golf tip example was inside a USSS secure perimeter. No general >>>> public or press were present.
I'm not sure you're really "tipping" someone who's expected to jump
between you and a bullet. But, yes, if he wasn't trying to bolster his
reputation for largess, then his motives for tipping may have been as
pure as yours or mine would be. Unlikely, imo, but possible.
Now you're just evading.
You were proven wrong. Just admit it and move on.
Sorry you find nuance overtaxing.
On 1/3/2026 9:47 AM, NoBody wrote:
On Fri, 2 Jan 2026 22:55:52 -0500, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On 1/2/2026 7:45 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jan 2, 2026 at 3:17:35 PM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>>
On 1/2/2026 4:34 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jan 2, 2026 at 1:00:25 PM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 1/2/2026 7:13 AM, NoBody wrote:
On Thu, 01 Jan 2026 19:20:51 -0500, shawn
<nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
On Thu, 1 Jan 2026 23:28:15 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
wrote:
On Jan 1, 2026 at 3:07:18 PM PST, "shawn" <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
wrote:
On Thu, 1 Jan 2026 20:33:28 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
wrote:
On Jan 1, 2026 at 7:14:05 AM PST, "NoBody" <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 19:11:12 -0500, Capricorne <capricorne@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Dec 31, 2025 at 11:57:44 AM PST, "shawn" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 10:13:22 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
wrote:
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <10ip638$3kkbb$2@dont-email.me>, atropos@mac.com wrote:
More and more restaurants around here are automatically adding tips toThat reminds me; What's the deal with my FB feed containing several
the bill-- even for parties of just one or two-- as a
mandatory charge.
They don't call them tips, since legally tips have to be
voluntary. They
label them things like "staff health care fee" and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "worker compensation
fee" and "living wage fee".
And of course even after they charge you one of those
bullshit mandatory
fees, they still add the tip line at the bottom for you
to pay them even
*more* money. Whenever I see one of these exciting new
fees on the bill,
I just draw a line with an arrow from the tip line up to
the fee, circle
it, and write, "That's your tip." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
postings
lecturing me to tip 40% and postings (suspiciously AI-generated) of
people's restaurant bills with comments written about the
tip? I saw one
in which the
waiter presumably wrote on a bill with no tip that they
were calling the
cops.
LOL. If a waiter ever wrote such a thing I would definitely not tip.
Even if I loved their service. Just to see if they were foolish enough
to call the cops out for my deciding not to offer an optional
gratuity.
This.
I would *so* call their bluff.
I wonder if Trump tips. Funny, just thinking about it we seem to know
the answer, no?
"Former President Donald Trump made an unscheduled campaign stop at
Tony and Nick's Steaks in South Philadelphia on Saturday, prior to a
rally at Temple University in the key battleground state of
Pennsylvania. The visit, which came as a surprise to the restaurant's
owner, left a lasting impression on both staff and patrons.
Trump left a $500 tip and wrote "no taxes on tips" on the receipt,
aligning with his recent campaign stance to end taxation on tips for
service industry workers. This gesture highlighted a key issue facing
many small business owners and their employees across the country."
https://www.israelhayom.com/2024/06/23/trump-leaves-500-tip-in-philadelphia-cheesesteak-shop/
All ya had to do is look dude.
"But... but... what about the narrative!?!"
Suzee, Traveler, and Capricorne won't let facts get in the way of a good
round
of Trump-bashing.
Well, let me get in on the Trump bashing by pointing out the number of
small businesses that were left in the lurch by Trump after doing work
for him. So I guess he's more than willing to be generous when it's
public facing, like handing out money to people with cameras and
reporters looking on but unwilling to pay businesses for the work he
contracted since there's no one watching.
There were no press or public around when he was showering the golf club
staff
with $100 bills.
sure sounds like there were plenty of people around. Also he was doing
it face to face. Maybe it's easier for him to cheat people if they
aren't in front of him because it's a well known fact that he will
often cheat businesses out of the money they earned doing work for
him. It's apparently been an ongoing thing for him since he got into
business.
Laughter!
The claim that he does not tip is proven false. Why can't you just
admit it?
*Admit* it? Why can't you just read what's been said?
"...he's more than willing to be generous when it's
public facing..."
Except my golf tip example was inside a USSS secure perimeter. No general
public or press were present.
I'm not sure you're really "tipping" someone who's expected to jump
between you and a bullet. But, yes, if he wasn't trying to bolster his >>>>> reputation for largess, then his motives for tipping may have been as >>>>> pure as yours or mine would be. Unlikely, imo, but possible.
He wasn't just trying to tip the agents. He was tipping everyone. The hostess,
the club concierge, the caddies, the towel boys, the girl who brought snacks
and drinks, etc.
I have no more to add, but, fwiw, here's Google's AI:
Yes, Donald Trump does tip, though his practices are inconsistent
and sometimes motivated by avoiding bad press; he's been described as
tipping generously with $100 bills to staff at his properties but also
admitted in 2025 he tips mostly to prevent negative publicity, though he >>> has also been seen leaving large tips, like $500 at a Philly cheesesteak >>> spot. His public stance has evolved, including policies proposed to make >>> tipped income tax-free, while also facing criticism for past rules
allowing employers to pocket tips.
AI: The only source that says "information provided here may be
wrong".
*All* sources should only be so candid...
Quoting AI is worse than citing Wikipedia.
Yet you just did. And picked a factual quote, at that.
On 1/3/2026 9:48 AM, NoBody wrote:
On Fri, 2 Jan 2026 16:05:15 -0500, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On 1/2/2026 7:11 AM, NoBody wrote:
On Thu, 1 Jan 2026 20:33:28 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
wrote:
On Jan 1, 2026 at 7:14:05 AM PST, "NoBody" <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>>>Yep. Being that they are liberals, they are concerned with narrative, >>>> not truth and fact.
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 19:11:12 -0500, Capricorne <capricorne@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote:
On Dec 31, 2025 at 11:57:44 AM PST, "shawn" <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 10:13:22 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
In article <10ip638$3kkbb$2@dont-email.me>, atropos@mac.com wrote:
More and more restaurants around here are automatically adding tips to
the bill-- even for parties of just one or two-- as a mandatory charge.
They don't call them tips, since legally tips have to be voluntary. They
label them things like "staff health care fee" and "worker compensation
fee" and "living wage fee".
And of course even after they charge you one of those bullshit mandatory
fees, they still add the tip line at the bottom for you to pay them even
*more* money. Whenever I see one of these exciting new fees on the bill,
I just draw a line with an arrow from the tip line up to the fee, circle
it, and write, "That's your tip."
That reminds me; What's the deal with my FB feed containing several
postings
lecturing me to tip 40% and postings (suspiciously AI-generated) of
people's restaurant bills with comments written about the tip? I saw one
in which the
waiter presumably wrote on a bill with no tip that they were calling the
cops.
LOL. If a waiter ever wrote such a thing I would definitely not tip.
Even if I loved their service. Just to see if they were foolish enough
to call the cops out for my deciding not to offer an optional >>>>>>>>> gratuity.
This.
I would *so* call their bluff.
I wonder if Trump tips. Funny, just thinking about it we seem to know >>>>>>> the answer, no?
"Former President Donald Trump made an unscheduled campaign stop at >>>>>> Tony and Nick's Steaks in South Philadelphia on Saturday, prior to a >>>>>> rally at Temple University in the key battleground state of
Pennsylvania. The visit, which came as a surprise to the restaurant's >>>>>> owner, left a lasting impression on both staff and patrons.
Trump left a $500 tip and wrote "no taxes on tips" on the receipt, >>>>>> aligning with his recent campaign stance to end taxation on tips for >>>>>> service industry workers. This gesture highlighted a key issue facing >>>>>> many small business owners and their employees across the country." >>>>>>
https://www.israelhayom.com/2024/06/23/trump-leaves-500-tip-in-philadelphia-cheesesteak-shop/
All ya had to do is look dude.
"But... but... what about the narrative!?!"
Suzee, Traveler, and Capricorne won't let facts get in the way of a good round
of Trump-bashing.
Gracious me! Surely you must need an oxygen mask at that height...
You have yet to prove me wrong. The claim was that Trump doesn't tip.
You've been proven wrong. Your responses thus far equates to "nut
uh".
No one on a rigorous diet of "truth and fact" is ever "proven wrong"...
On 1/3/2026 9:38 AM, NoBody wrote:
On Fri, 2 Jan 2026 16:00:25 -0500, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On 1/2/2026 7:13 AM, NoBody wrote:
On Thu, 01 Jan 2026 19:20:51 -0500, shawn
<nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
On Thu, 1 Jan 2026 23:28:15 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
wrote:
On Jan 1, 2026 at 3:07:18 PM PST, "shawn" <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
wrote:
On Thu, 1 Jan 2026 20:33:28 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> >>>>>>> wrote:
On Jan 1, 2026 at 7:14:05 AM PST, "NoBody" <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 19:11:12 -0500, Capricorne <capricorne@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Dec 31, 2025 at 11:57:44 AM PST, "shawn"
<nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 10:13:22 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
wrote:
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
In article <10ip638$3kkbb$2@dont-email.me>, atropos@mac.com wrote:
More and more restaurants around here are automatically adding tips to
the bill-- even for parties of just one or two-- as a mandatory charge.
They don't call them tips, since legally tips have to be voluntary. They
label them things like "staff health care fee" and "worker compensation
fee" and "living wage fee".
And of course even after they charge you one of those bullshit mandatory
fees, they still add the tip line at the bottom for you to pay them even
*more* money. Whenever I see one of these exciting new fees on the bill,
I just draw a line with an arrow from the tip line up to the fee, circle
it, and write, "That's your tip."
That reminds me; What's the deal with my FB feed containing several
postings
lecturing me to tip 40% and postings (suspiciously AI-generated) of
people's restaurant bills with comments written about the tip? I saw one
in which the
waiter presumably wrote on a bill with no tip that they were calling the
cops.
LOL. If a waiter ever wrote such a thing I would definitely not tip.
Even if I loved their service. Just to see if they were foolish enough
to call the cops out for my deciding not to offer an optional >>>>>>>>>>>> gratuity.
This.
I would *so* call their bluff.
I wonder if Trump tips. Funny, just thinking about it we seem to know
the answer, no?
"Former President Donald Trump made an unscheduled campaign stop at
Tony and Nick's Steaks in South Philadelphia on Saturday, prior to a
rally at Temple University in the key battleground state of >>>>>>>>> Pennsylvania. The visit, which came as a surprise to the restaurant's
owner, left a lasting impression on both staff and patrons. >>>>>>>>>
Trump left a $500 tip and wrote "no taxes on tips" on the receipt, >>>>>>>>> aligning with his recent campaign stance to end taxation on tips for
service industry workers. This gesture highlighted a key issue facing
many small business owners and their employees across the country."
https://www.israelhayom.com/2024/06/23/trump-leaves-500-tip-in-philadelphia-cheesesteak-shop/
All ya had to do is look dude.
"But... but... what about the narrative!?!"
Suzee, Traveler, and Capricorne won't let facts get in the way of a good
round
of Trump-bashing.
Well, let me get in on the Trump bashing by pointing out the number of >>>>>>> small businesses that were left in the lurch by Trump after doing work >>>>>>> for him. So I guess he's more than willing to be generous when it's >>>>>>> public facing, like handing out money to people with cameras and >>>>>>> reporters looking on but unwilling to pay businesses for the work he >>>>>>> contracted since there's no one watching.
There were no press or public around when he was showering the golf club staff
with $100 bills.
sure sounds like there were plenty of people around. Also he was doing >>>>> it face to face. Maybe it's easier for him to cheat people if they
aren't in front of him because it's a well known fact that he will
often cheat businesses out of the money they earned doing work for
him. It's apparently been an ongoing thing for him since he got into >>>>> business.
Laughter!
The claim that he does not tip is proven false. Why can't you just
admit it?
*Admit* it? Why can't you just read what's been said?
"...he's more than willing to be generous when it's
public facing..."
So you add a condition not part of the discussion and try to use it as
the rule.
Tell you what. Since you think he stiff people on tips, find a
citation that proves this. All the evidence provided shows otherwise.
The condition that he (not me) added contained the very "admission" you >faulted him for not providing.
On Sat, 3 Jan 2026 11:30:46 -0500, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On 1/3/2026 9:47 AM, NoBody wrote:
On Fri, 2 Jan 2026 22:55:52 -0500, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On 1/2/2026 7:45 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jan 2, 2026 at 3:17:35 PM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>>>
On 1/2/2026 4:34 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jan 2, 2026 at 1:00:25 PM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 1/2/2026 7:13 AM, NoBody wrote:
On Thu, 01 Jan 2026 19:20:51 -0500, shawn
<nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
On Thu, 1 Jan 2026 23:28:15 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
wrote:
On Jan 1, 2026 at 3:07:18 PM PST, "shawn" <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
wrote:
On Thu, 1 Jan 2026 20:33:28 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
wrote:
On Jan 1, 2026 at 7:14:05 AM PST, "NoBody" <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 19:11:12 -0500, Capricorne <capricorne@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Dec 31, 2025 at 11:57:44 AM PST, "shawn" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 10:13:22 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
wrote:
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <10ip638$3kkbb$2@dont-email.me>, atropos@mac.com wrote:
More and more restaurants around here are automatically adding tips toThat reminds me; What's the deal with my FB feed containing several
the bill-- even for parties of just one or two-- as a
mandatory charge.
They don't call them tips, since legally tips have to be
voluntary. They
label them things like "staff health care fee" and
"worker compensation
fee" and "living wage fee".
And of course even after they charge you one of those
bullshit mandatory
fees, they still add the tip line at the bottom for you
to pay them even
*more* money. Whenever I see one of these exciting new
fees on the bill,
I just draw a line with an arrow from the tip line up to
the fee, circle
it, and write, "That's your tip." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
postings
lecturing me to tip 40% and postings (suspiciously AI-generated) of
people's restaurant bills with comments written about the
tip? I saw one
in which the
waiter presumably wrote on a bill with no tip that they
were calling the
cops.
LOL. If a waiter ever wrote such a thing I would definitely not tip.
Even if I loved their service. Just to see if they were foolish enough
to call the cops out for my deciding not to offer an optional
gratuity.
This.
I would *so* call their bluff.
I wonder if Trump tips. Funny, just thinking about it we seem to know
the answer, no?
"Former President Donald Trump made an unscheduled campaign stop at
Tony and Nick's Steaks in South Philadelphia on Saturday, prior to a
rally at Temple University in the key battleground state of
Pennsylvania. The visit, which came as a surprise to the restaurant's
owner, left a lasting impression on both staff and patrons.
Trump left a $500 tip and wrote "no taxes on tips" on the receipt,
aligning with his recent campaign stance to end taxation on tips for
service industry workers. This gesture highlighted a key issue facing
many small business owners and their employees across the country."
https://www.israelhayom.com/2024/06/23/trump-leaves-500-tip-in-philadelphia-cheesesteak-shop/
All ya had to do is look dude.
"But... but... what about the narrative!?!"
Suzee, Traveler, and Capricorne won't let facts get in the way of a good
round
of Trump-bashing.
Well, let me get in on the Trump bashing by pointing out the number of
small businesses that were left in the lurch by Trump after doing work
for him. So I guess he's more than willing to be generous when it's
public facing, like handing out money to people with cameras and
reporters looking on but unwilling to pay businesses for the work he
contracted since there's no one watching.
There were no press or public around when he was showering the golf club
staff
with $100 bills.
sure sounds like there were plenty of people around. Also he was doing
it face to face. Maybe it's easier for him to cheat people if they
aren't in front of him because it's a well known fact that he will
often cheat businesses out of the money they earned doing work for
him. It's apparently been an ongoing thing for him since he got into
business.
Laughter!
The claim that he does not tip is proven false. Why can't you just
admit it?
*Admit* it? Why can't you just read what's been said?
"...he's more than willing to be generous when it's
public facing..."
Except my golf tip example was inside a USSS secure perimeter. No general
public or press were present.
I'm not sure you're really "tipping" someone who's expected to jump >>>>>> between you and a bullet. But, yes, if he wasn't trying to bolster his >>>>>> reputation for largess, then his motives for tipping may have been as >>>>>> pure as yours or mine would be. Unlikely, imo, but possible.
He wasn't just trying to tip the agents. He was tipping everyone. The hostess,
the club concierge, the caddies, the towel boys, the girl who brought snacks
and drinks, etc.
I have no more to add, but, fwiw, here's Google's AI:
Yes, Donald Trump does tip, though his practices are inconsistent >>>> and sometimes motivated by avoiding bad press; he's been described as
tipping generously with $100 bills to staff at his properties but also >>>> admitted in 2025 he tips mostly to prevent negative publicity, though he >>>> has also been seen leaving large tips, like $500 at a Philly cheesesteak >>>> spot. His public stance has evolved, including policies proposed to make >>>> tipped income tax-free, while also facing criticism for past rules
allowing employers to pocket tips.
AI: The only source that says "information provided here may be
wrong".
*All* sources should only be so candid...
Laughter!
You would be wise to not use sources that have a note like this.
Quoting AI is worse than citing Wikipedia.
Yet you just did. And picked a factual quote, at that.
Where did I do this? this should be good.
On Sat, 3 Jan 2026 12:05:32 -0500, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On 1/3/2026 9:38 AM, NoBody wrote:
On Fri, 2 Jan 2026 16:00:25 -0500, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On 1/2/2026 7:13 AM, NoBody wrote:
On Thu, 01 Jan 2026 19:20:51 -0500, shawn
<nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
On Thu, 1 Jan 2026 23:28:15 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> >>>>>> wrote:
On Jan 1, 2026 at 3:07:18 PM PST, "shawn" <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
wrote:
On Thu, 1 Jan 2026 20:33:28 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> >>>>>>>> wrote:
On Jan 1, 2026 at 7:14:05 AM PST, "NoBody" <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 19:11:12 -0500, Capricorne <capricorne@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Dec 31, 2025 at 11:57:44 AM PST, "shawn"
<nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 10:13:22 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
wrote:
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
In article <10ip638$3kkbb$2@dont-email.me>, atropos@mac.com wrote:
More and more restaurants around here are automatically adding tips to
the bill-- even for parties of just one or two-- as a mandatory charge.
They don't call them tips, since legally tips have to be voluntary. They
label them things like "staff health care fee" and "worker compensation
fee" and "living wage fee".
And of course even after they charge you one of those bullshit mandatory
fees, they still add the tip line at the bottom for you to pay them even
*more* money. Whenever I see one of these exciting new fees on the bill,
I just draw a line with an arrow from the tip line up to the fee, circle
it, and write, "That's your tip."
That reminds me; What's the deal with my FB feed containing several
postings
lecturing me to tip 40% and postings (suspiciously AI-generated) of
people's restaurant bills with comments written about the tip? I saw one
in which the
waiter presumably wrote on a bill with no tip that they were calling the
cops.
LOL. If a waiter ever wrote such a thing I would definitely not tip.
Even if I loved their service. Just to see if they were foolish enough
to call the cops out for my deciding not to offer an optional
gratuity.
This.
I would *so* call their bluff.
I wonder if Trump tips. Funny, just thinking about it we seem to know
the answer, no?
"Former President Donald Trump made an unscheduled campaign stop at
Tony and Nick's Steaks in South Philadelphia on Saturday, prior to a
rally at Temple University in the key battleground state of >>>>>>>>>> Pennsylvania. The visit, which came as a surprise to the restaurant's
owner, left a lasting impression on both staff and patrons. >>>>>>>>>>
Trump left a $500 tip and wrote "no taxes on tips" on the receipt,
aligning with his recent campaign stance to end taxation on tips for
service industry workers. This gesture highlighted a key issue facing
many small business owners and their employees across the country."
https://www.israelhayom.com/2024/06/23/trump-leaves-500-tip-in-philadelphia-cheesesteak-shop/
All ya had to do is look dude.
"But... but... what about the narrative!?!"
Suzee, Traveler, and Capricorne won't let facts get in the way of a good
round
of Trump-bashing.
Well, let me get in on the Trump bashing by pointing out the number of >>>>>>>> small businesses that were left in the lurch by Trump after doing work >>>>>>>> for him. So I guess he's more than willing to be generous when it's >>>>>>>> public facing, like handing out money to people with cameras and >>>>>>>> reporters looking on but unwilling to pay businesses for the work he >>>>>>>> contracted since there's no one watching.
There were no press or public around when he was showering the golf club staff
with $100 bills.
sure sounds like there were plenty of people around. Also he was doing >>>>>> it face to face. Maybe it's easier for him to cheat people if they >>>>>> aren't in front of him because it's a well known fact that he will >>>>>> often cheat businesses out of the money they earned doing work for >>>>>> him. It's apparently been an ongoing thing for him since he got into >>>>>> business.
Laughter!
The claim that he does not tip is proven false. Why can't you just
admit it?
*Admit* it? Why can't you just read what's been said?
"...he's more than willing to be generous when it's
public facing..."
So you add a condition not part of the discussion and try to use it as
the rule.
Tell you what. Since you think he stiff people on tips, find a
citation that proves this. All the evidence provided shows otherwise.
The condition that he (not me) added contained the very "admission" you
faulted him for not providing.
Please respond with specifics and not random mumblings. If you're
going to stand behind the claim that Trump doesn't tip, provide
*something* credible that backs it up.
You're doing the equivalent of "did not, did so".
On Sat, 3 Jan 2026 11:51:58 -0500, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On 1/3/2026 9:48 AM, NoBody wrote:
On Fri, 2 Jan 2026 16:05:15 -0500, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On 1/2/2026 7:11 AM, NoBody wrote:
On Thu, 1 Jan 2026 20:33:28 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
wrote:
On Jan 1, 2026 at 7:14:05 AM PST, "NoBody" <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>>>>Yep. Being that they are liberals, they are concerned with narrative, >>>>> not truth and fact.
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 19:11:12 -0500, Capricorne <capricorne@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote:
On Dec 31, 2025 at 11:57:44 AM PST, "shawn" <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 10:13:22 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
wrote:
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
In article <10ip638$3kkbb$2@dont-email.me>, atropos@mac.com wrote:
More and more restaurants around here are automatically adding tips to
the bill-- even for parties of just one or two-- as a mandatory charge.
They don't call them tips, since legally tips have to be voluntary. They
label them things like "staff health care fee" and "worker compensation
fee" and "living wage fee".
And of course even after they charge you one of those bullshit mandatory
fees, they still add the tip line at the bottom for you to pay them even
*more* money. Whenever I see one of these exciting new fees on the bill,
I just draw a line with an arrow from the tip line up to the fee, circle
it, and write, "That's your tip."
That reminds me; What's the deal with my FB feed containing several
postings
lecturing me to tip 40% and postings (suspiciously AI-generated) of
people's restaurant bills with comments written about the tip? I saw one
in which the
waiter presumably wrote on a bill with no tip that they were calling the
cops.
LOL. If a waiter ever wrote such a thing I would definitely not tip.
Even if I loved their service. Just to see if they were foolish enough
to call the cops out for my deciding not to offer an optional >>>>>>>>>> gratuity.
This.
I would *so* call their bluff.
I wonder if Trump tips. Funny, just thinking about it we seem to know >>>>>>>> the answer, no?
"Former President Donald Trump made an unscheduled campaign stop at >>>>>>> Tony and Nick's Steaks in South Philadelphia on Saturday, prior to a >>>>>>> rally at Temple University in the key battleground state of
Pennsylvania. The visit, which came as a surprise to the restaurant's >>>>>>> owner, left a lasting impression on both staff and patrons.
Trump left a $500 tip and wrote "no taxes on tips" on the receipt, >>>>>>> aligning with his recent campaign stance to end taxation on tips for >>>>>>> service industry workers. This gesture highlighted a key issue facing >>>>>>> many small business owners and their employees across the country." >>>>>>>
https://www.israelhayom.com/2024/06/23/trump-leaves-500-tip-in-philadelphia-cheesesteak-shop/
All ya had to do is look dude.
"But... but... what about the narrative!?!"
Suzee, Traveler, and Capricorne won't let facts get in the way of a good round
of Trump-bashing.
Gracious me! Surely you must need an oxygen mask at that height...
You have yet to prove me wrong. The claim was that Trump doesn't tip.
You've been proven wrong. Your responses thus far equates to "nut
uh".
No one on a rigorous diet of "truth and fact" is ever "proven wrong"...
Evasion noted and denial of the obvious on your part is noted.
On 1/4/2026 9:50 AM, NoBody wrote:
On Sat, 3 Jan 2026 11:30:46 -0500, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On 1/3/2026 9:47 AM, NoBody wrote:
On Fri, 2 Jan 2026 22:55:52 -0500, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On 1/2/2026 7:45 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jan 2, 2026 at 3:17:35 PM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>>>>
On 1/2/2026 4:34 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jan 2, 2026 at 1:00:25 PM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 1/2/2026 7:13 AM, NoBody wrote:
On Thu, 01 Jan 2026 19:20:51 -0500, shawn
<nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
On Thu, 1 Jan 2026 23:28:15 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
wrote:
On Jan 1, 2026 at 3:07:18 PM PST, "shawn" <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
wrote:
On Thu, 1 Jan 2026 20:33:28 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
wrote:
On Jan 1, 2026 at 7:14:05 AM PST, "NoBody" <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 19:11:12 -0500, Capricorne <capricorne@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Dec 31, 2025 at 11:57:44 AM PST, "shawn" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 10:13:22 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
wrote:
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <10ip638$3kkbb$2@dont-email.me>, atropos@mac.com wrote:
More and more restaurants around here are automatically adding tips toThat reminds me; What's the deal with my FB feed containing several
the bill-- even for parties of just one or two-- as a
mandatory charge.
They don't call them tips, since legally tips have to be
voluntary. They
label them things like "staff health care fee" and
"worker compensation
fee" and "living wage fee". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
And of course even after they charge you one of those
bullshit mandatory
fees, they still add the tip line at the bottom for you
to pay them even
*more* money. Whenever I see one of these exciting new
fees on the bill,
I just draw a line with an arrow from the tip line up to
the fee, circle
it, and write, "That's your tip." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
postings
lecturing me to tip 40% and postings (suspiciously AI-generated) of
people's restaurant bills with comments written about the
tip? I saw one
in which the
waiter presumably wrote on a bill with no tip that they
were calling the
cops.
LOL. If a waiter ever wrote such a thing I would definitely not tip.
Even if I loved their service. Just to see if they were foolish enough
to call the cops out for my deciding not to offer an optional
gratuity.
This.
I would *so* call their bluff.
I wonder if Trump tips. Funny, just thinking about it we seem to know
the answer, no?
"Former President Donald Trump made an unscheduled campaign stop at
Tony and Nick's Steaks in South Philadelphia on Saturday, prior to a
rally at Temple University in the key battleground state of
Pennsylvania. The visit, which came as a surprise to the restaurant's
owner, left a lasting impression on both staff and patrons.
Trump left a $500 tip and wrote "no taxes on tips" on the receipt,
aligning with his recent campaign stance to end taxation on tips for
service industry workers. This gesture highlighted a key issue facing
many small business owners and their employees across the country."
https://www.israelhayom.com/2024/06/23/trump-leaves-500-tip-in-philadelphia-cheesesteak-shop/
All ya had to do is look dude.
"But... but... what about the narrative!?!"
Suzee, Traveler, and Capricorne won't let facts get in the way of a good
round
of Trump-bashing.
Well, let me get in on the Trump bashing by pointing out the number of
small businesses that were left in the lurch by Trump after doing work
for him. So I guess he's more than willing to be generous when it's
public facing, like handing out money to people with cameras and
reporters looking on but unwilling to pay businesses for the work he
contracted since there's no one watching.
There were no press or public around when he was showering the golf club
staff
with $100 bills.
sure sounds like there were plenty of people around. Also he was doing
it face to face. Maybe it's easier for him to cheat people if they
aren't in front of him because it's a well known fact that he will
often cheat businesses out of the money they earned doing work for
him. It's apparently been an ongoing thing for him since he got into
business.
Laughter!
The claim that he does not tip is proven false. Why can't you just
admit it?
*Admit* it? Why can't you just read what's been said?
"...he's more than willing to be generous when it's >>>>>>>>> public facing..."
Except my golf tip example was inside a USSS secure perimeter. No general
public or press were present.
I'm not sure you're really "tipping" someone who's expected to jump >>>>>>> between you and a bullet. But, yes, if he wasn't trying to bolster his >>>>>>> reputation for largess, then his motives for tipping may have been as >>>>>>> pure as yours or mine would be. Unlikely, imo, but possible.
He wasn't just trying to tip the agents. He was tipping everyone. The hostess,
the club concierge, the caddies, the towel boys, the girl who brought snacks
and drinks, etc.
I have no more to add, but, fwiw, here's Google's AI:
Yes, Donald Trump does tip, though his practices are inconsistent >>>>> and sometimes motivated by avoiding bad press; he's been described as >>>>> tipping generously with $100 bills to staff at his properties but also >>>>> admitted in 2025 he tips mostly to prevent negative publicity, though he >>>>> has also been seen leaving large tips, like $500 at a Philly cheesesteak >>>>> spot. His public stance has evolved, including policies proposed to make >>>>> tipped income tax-free, while also facing criticism for past rules
allowing employers to pocket tips.
AI: The only source that says "information provided here may be
wrong".
*All* sources should only be so candid...
Laughter!
You would be wise to not use sources that have a note like this.
In your wisdom, you seem to that no note means no error.
Quoting AI is worse than citing Wikipedia.
Yet you just did. And picked a factual quote, at that.
Where did I do this? this should be good.
"information provided here may be wrong". You even attributed it.
On 1/4/2026 9:51 AM, NoBody wrote:
On Sat, 3 Jan 2026 11:51:58 -0500, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On 1/3/2026 9:48 AM, NoBody wrote:
On Fri, 2 Jan 2026 16:05:15 -0500, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On 1/2/2026 7:11 AM, NoBody wrote:
On Thu, 1 Jan 2026 20:33:28 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> >>>>>> wrote:
On Jan 1, 2026 at 7:14:05 AM PST, "NoBody" <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>>>>>Yep. Being that they are liberals, they are concerned with narrative, >>>>>> not truth and fact.
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 19:11:12 -0500, Capricorne <capricorne@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote:
On Dec 31, 2025 at 11:57:44 AM PST, "shawn" <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 10:13:22 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
wrote:
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
In article <10ip638$3kkbb$2@dont-email.me>, atropos@mac.com wrote:
More and more restaurants around here are automatically adding tips to
the bill-- even for parties of just one or two-- as a mandatory charge.
They don't call them tips, since legally tips have to be voluntary. They
label them things like "staff health care fee" and "worker compensation
fee" and "living wage fee".
And of course even after they charge you one of those bullshit mandatory
fees, they still add the tip line at the bottom for you to pay them even
*more* money. Whenever I see one of these exciting new fees on the bill,
I just draw a line with an arrow from the tip line up to the fee, circle
it, and write, "That's your tip."
That reminds me; What's the deal with my FB feed containing several
postings
lecturing me to tip 40% and postings (suspiciously AI-generated) of
people's restaurant bills with comments written about the tip? I saw one
in which the
waiter presumably wrote on a bill with no tip that they were calling the
cops.
LOL. If a waiter ever wrote such a thing I would definitely not tip.
Even if I loved their service. Just to see if they were foolish enough
to call the cops out for my deciding not to offer an optional >>>>>>>>>>> gratuity.
This.
I would *so* call their bluff.
I wonder if Trump tips. Funny, just thinking about it we seem to know >>>>>>>>> the answer, no?
"Former President Donald Trump made an unscheduled campaign stop at >>>>>>>> Tony and Nick's Steaks in South Philadelphia on Saturday, prior to a >>>>>>>> rally at Temple University in the key battleground state of
Pennsylvania. The visit, which came as a surprise to the restaurant's >>>>>>>> owner, left a lasting impression on both staff and patrons.
Trump left a $500 tip and wrote "no taxes on tips" on the receipt, >>>>>>>> aligning with his recent campaign stance to end taxation on tips for >>>>>>>> service industry workers. This gesture highlighted a key issue facing >>>>>>>> many small business owners and their employees across the country." >>>>>>>>
https://www.israelhayom.com/2024/06/23/trump-leaves-500-tip-in-philadelphia-cheesesteak-shop/
All ya had to do is look dude.
"But... but... what about the narrative!?!"
Suzee, Traveler, and Capricorne won't let facts get in the way of a good round
of Trump-bashing.
Gracious me! Surely you must need an oxygen mask at that height...
You have yet to prove me wrong. The claim was that Trump doesn't tip. >>>> You've been proven wrong. Your responses thus far equates to "nut
uh".
No one on a rigorous diet of "truth and fact" is ever "proven wrong"...
Evasion noted and denial of the obvious on your part is noted.
Obviously.
On Sun, 4 Jan 2026 11:49:48 -0500, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On 1/4/2026 9:50 AM, NoBody wrote:
On Sat, 3 Jan 2026 11:30:46 -0500, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On 1/3/2026 9:47 AM, NoBody wrote:
On Fri, 2 Jan 2026 22:55:52 -0500, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On 1/2/2026 7:45 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jan 2, 2026 at 3:17:35 PM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 1/2/2026 4:34 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jan 2, 2026 at 1:00:25 PM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 1/2/2026 7:13 AM, NoBody wrote:
On Thu, 01 Jan 2026 19:20:51 -0500, shawn
<nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
On Thu, 1 Jan 2026 23:28:15 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
wrote:
On Jan 1, 2026 at 3:07:18 PM PST, "shawn" <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
wrote:
On Thu, 1 Jan 2026 20:33:28 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
wrote:
On Jan 1, 2026 at 7:14:05 AM PST, "NoBody" <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 19:11:12 -0500, Capricorne <capricorne@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Dec 31, 2025 at 11:57:44 AM PST, "shawn" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 10:13:22 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
wrote:
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <10ip638$3kkbb$2@dont-email.me>, atropos@mac.com wrote:
More and more restaurants around here are automatically adding tips toThat reminds me; What's the deal with my FB feed containing several
the bill-- even for parties of just one or two-- as a
mandatory charge.
They don't call them tips, since legally tips have to be
voluntary. They
label them things like "staff health care fee" and
"worker compensation
fee" and "living wage fee". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
And of course even after they charge you one of those
bullshit mandatory
fees, they still add the tip line at the bottom for you
to pay them even
*more* money. Whenever I see one of these exciting new
fees on the bill,
I just draw a line with an arrow from the tip line up to
the fee, circle
it, and write, "That's your tip." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
postings
lecturing me to tip 40% and postings (suspiciously AI-generated) of
people's restaurant bills with comments written about the
tip? I saw one
in which the
waiter presumably wrote on a bill with no tip that they
were calling the
cops.
LOL. If a waiter ever wrote such a thing I would definitely not tip.
Even if I loved their service. Just to see if they were foolish enough
to call the cops out for my deciding not to offer an optional
gratuity.
This.
I would *so* call their bluff.
I wonder if Trump tips. Funny, just thinking about it we seem to know
the answer, no?
"Former President Donald Trump made an unscheduled campaign stop at
Tony and Nick's Steaks in South Philadelphia on Saturday, prior to a
rally at Temple University in the key battleground state of
Pennsylvania. The visit, which came as a surprise to the restaurant's
owner, left a lasting impression on both staff and patrons.
Trump left a $500 tip and wrote "no taxes on tips" on the receipt,
aligning with his recent campaign stance to end taxation on tips for
service industry workers. This gesture highlighted a key issue facing
many small business owners and their employees across the country."
https://www.israelhayom.com/2024/06/23/trump-leaves-500-tip-in-philadelphia-cheesesteak-shop/
All ya had to do is look dude.
"But... but... what about the narrative!?!" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Suzee, Traveler, and Capricorne won't let facts get in the way of a good
round
of Trump-bashing.
Well, let me get in on the Trump bashing by pointing out the number of
small businesses that were left in the lurch by Trump after doing work
for him. So I guess he's more than willing to be generous when it's
public facing, like handing out money to people with cameras and
reporters looking on but unwilling to pay businesses for the work he
contracted since there's no one watching.
There were no press or public around when he was showering the golf club
staff
with $100 bills.
sure sounds like there were plenty of people around. Also he was doing
it face to face. Maybe it's easier for him to cheat people if they
aren't in front of him because it's a well known fact that he will
often cheat businesses out of the money they earned doing work for
him. It's apparently been an ongoing thing for him since he got into
business.
Laughter!
The claim that he does not tip is proven false. Why can't you just
admit it?
*Admit* it? Why can't you just read what's been said? >>>>>>>>>>
"...he's more than willing to be generous when it's >>>>>>>>>> public facing..."
Except my golf tip example was inside a USSS secure perimeter. No general
public or press were present.
I'm not sure you're really "tipping" someone who's expected to jump >>>>>>>> between you and a bullet. But, yes, if he wasn't trying to bolster his >>>>>>>> reputation for largess, then his motives for tipping may have been as >>>>>>>> pure as yours or mine would be. Unlikely, imo, but possible.
He wasn't just trying to tip the agents. He was tipping everyone. The hostess,
the club concierge, the caddies, the towel boys, the girl who brought snacks
and drinks, etc.
I have no more to add, but, fwiw, here's Google's AI:
Yes, Donald Trump does tip, though his practices are inconsistent >>>>>> and sometimes motivated by avoiding bad press; he's been described as >>>>>> tipping generously with $100 bills to staff at his properties but also >>>>>> admitted in 2025 he tips mostly to prevent negative publicity, though he >>>>>> has also been seen leaving large tips, like $500 at a Philly cheesesteak >>>>>> spot. His public stance has evolved, including policies proposed to make >>>>>> tipped income tax-free, while also facing criticism for past rules >>>>>> allowing employers to pocket tips.
AI: The only source that says "information provided here may be
wrong".
*All* sources should only be so candid...
Laughter!
You would be wise to not use sources that have a note like this.
In your wisdom, you seem to that no note means no error.
Whoosh! Not what I said.
Please reread.
Quoting AI is worse than citing Wikipedia.
Yet you just did. And picked a factual quote, at that.
Where did I do this? this should be good.
"information provided here may be wrong". You even attributed it.
Show where I attributed my comment to any specific search article. You apparently have difficulty keeping track of with whom you are
replying.
On Sun, 4 Jan 2026 11:59:05 -0500, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On 1/4/2026 9:51 AM, NoBody wrote:Glad you admit it. That's the first step to recovery.
On Sat, 3 Jan 2026 11:51:58 -0500, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On 1/3/2026 9:48 AM, NoBody wrote:
On Fri, 2 Jan 2026 16:05:15 -0500, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On 1/2/2026 7:11 AM, NoBody wrote:
On Thu, 1 Jan 2026 20:33:28 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> >>>>>>> wrote:
On Jan 1, 2026 at 7:14:05 AM PST, "NoBody" <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>Yep. Being that they are liberals, they are concerned with narrative, >>>>>>> not truth and fact.
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 19:11:12 -0500, Capricorne <capricorne@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
On Dec 31, 2025 at 11:57:44 AM PST, "shawn" <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 10:13:22 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
wrote:
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
In article <10ip638$3kkbb$2@dont-email.me>, atropos@mac.com wrote:
More and more restaurants around here are automatically adding tips to
the bill-- even for parties of just one or two-- as a mandatory charge.
They don't call them tips, since legally tips have to be voluntary. They
label them things like "staff health care fee" and "worker compensation
fee" and "living wage fee".
And of course even after they charge you one of those bullshit mandatory
fees, they still add the tip line at the bottom for you to pay them even
*more* money. Whenever I see one of these exciting new fees on the bill,
I just draw a line with an arrow from the tip line up to the fee, circle
it, and write, "That's your tip."
That reminds me; What's the deal with my FB feed containing several
postings
lecturing me to tip 40% and postings (suspiciously AI-generated) of
people's restaurant bills with comments written about the tip? I saw one
in which the
waiter presumably wrote on a bill with no tip that they were calling the
cops.
LOL. If a waiter ever wrote such a thing I would definitely not tip.
Even if I loved their service. Just to see if they were foolish enough
to call the cops out for my deciding not to offer an optional >>>>>>>>>>>> gratuity.
This.
I would *so* call their bluff.
I wonder if Trump tips. Funny, just thinking about it we seem to know
the answer, no?
"Former President Donald Trump made an unscheduled campaign stop at >>>>>>>>> Tony and Nick's Steaks in South Philadelphia on Saturday, prior to a >>>>>>>>> rally at Temple University in the key battleground state of
Pennsylvania. The visit, which came as a surprise to the restaurant's >>>>>>>>> owner, left a lasting impression on both staff and patrons.
Trump left a $500 tip and wrote "no taxes on tips" on the receipt, >>>>>>>>> aligning with his recent campaign stance to end taxation on tips for >>>>>>>>> service industry workers. This gesture highlighted a key issue facing >>>>>>>>> many small business owners and their employees across the country." >>>>>>>>>
https://www.israelhayom.com/2024/06/23/trump-leaves-500-tip-in-philadelphia-cheesesteak-shop/
All ya had to do is look dude.
"But... but... what about the narrative!?!"
Suzee, Traveler, and Capricorne won't let facts get in the way of a good round
of Trump-bashing.
Gracious me! Surely you must need an oxygen mask at that height... >>>>>>
You have yet to prove me wrong. The claim was that Trump doesn't tip. >>>>> You've been proven wrong. Your responses thus far equates to "nut
uh".
No one on a rigorous diet of "truth and fact" is ever "proven wrong"... >>>>
Evasion noted and denial of the obvious on your part is noted.
Obviously.
On 1/4/2026 9:53 AM, NoBody wrote:
On Sat, 3 Jan 2026 12:05:32 -0500, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On 1/3/2026 9:38 AM, NoBody wrote:
On Fri, 2 Jan 2026 16:00:25 -0500, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On 1/2/2026 7:13 AM, NoBody wrote:
On Thu, 01 Jan 2026 19:20:51 -0500, shawn
<nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
On Thu, 1 Jan 2026 23:28:15 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> >>>>>>> wrote:
On Jan 1, 2026 at 3:07:18 PM PST, "shawn" <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
wrote:
On Thu, 1 Jan 2026 20:33:28 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
On Jan 1, 2026 at 7:14:05 AM PST, "NoBody" <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 19:11:12 -0500, Capricorne <capricorne@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Dec 31, 2025 at 11:57:44 AM PST, "shawn"
<nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 10:13:22 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
wrote:
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
In article <10ip638$3kkbb$2@dont-email.me>, atropos@mac.com wrote:
More and more restaurants around here are automatically adding tips to
the bill-- even for parties of just one or two-- as a mandatory charge.
They don't call them tips, since legally tips have to be voluntary. They
label them things like "staff health care fee" and "worker compensation
fee" and "living wage fee".
And of course even after they charge you one of those bullshit mandatory
fees, they still add the tip line at the bottom for you to pay them even
*more* money. Whenever I see one of these exciting new fees on the bill,
I just draw a line with an arrow from the tip line up to the fee, circle
it, and write, "That's your tip."
That reminds me; What's the deal with my FB feed containing several
postings
lecturing me to tip 40% and postings (suspiciously AI-generated) of
people's restaurant bills with comments written about the tip? I saw one
in which the
waiter presumably wrote on a bill with no tip that they were calling the
cops.
LOL. If a waiter ever wrote such a thing I would definitely not tip.
Even if I loved their service. Just to see if they were foolish enough
to call the cops out for my deciding not to offer an optional
gratuity.
This.
I would *so* call their bluff.
I wonder if Trump tips. Funny, just thinking about it we seem to know
the answer, no?
"Former President Donald Trump made an unscheduled campaign stop at
Tony and Nick's Steaks in South Philadelphia on Saturday, prior to a
rally at Temple University in the key battleground state of >>>>>>>>>>> Pennsylvania. The visit, which came as a surprise to the restaurant's
owner, left a lasting impression on both staff and patrons. >>>>>>>>>>>
Trump left a $500 tip and wrote "no taxes on tips" on the receipt,
aligning with his recent campaign stance to end taxation on tips for
service industry workers. This gesture highlighted a key issue facing
many small business owners and their employees across the country."
https://www.israelhayom.com/2024/06/23/trump-leaves-500-tip-in-philadelphia-cheesesteak-shop/
All ya had to do is look dude.
"But... but... what about the narrative!?!"
Suzee, Traveler, and Capricorne won't let facts get in the way of a good
round
of Trump-bashing.
Well, let me get in on the Trump bashing by pointing out the number of
small businesses that were left in the lurch by Trump after doing work
for him. So I guess he's more than willing to be generous when it's >>>>>>>>> public facing, like handing out money to people with cameras and >>>>>>>>> reporters looking on but unwilling to pay businesses for the work he >>>>>>>>> contracted since there's no one watching.
There were no press or public around when he was showering the golf club staff
with $100 bills.
sure sounds like there were plenty of people around. Also he was doing >>>>>>> it face to face. Maybe it's easier for him to cheat people if they >>>>>>> aren't in front of him because it's a well known fact that he will >>>>>>> often cheat businesses out of the money they earned doing work for >>>>>>> him. It's apparently been an ongoing thing for him since he got into >>>>>>> business.
Laughter!
The claim that he does not tip is proven false. Why can't you just >>>>>> admit it?
*Admit* it? Why can't you just read what's been said?
"...he's more than willing to be generous when it's
public facing..."
So you add a condition not part of the discussion and try to use it as >>>> the rule.
Tell you what. Since you think he stiff people on tips, find a
citation that proves this. All the evidence provided shows otherwise.
The condition that he (not me) added contained the very "admission" you
faulted him for not providing.
Please respond with specifics and not random mumblings. If you're
going to stand behind the claim that Trump doesn't tip, provide
*something* credible that backs it up.
You're doing the equivalent of "did not, did so".
You specifically demanded an "admission" though one was already present.
On 1/5/2026 7:32 AM, NoBody wrote:
On Sun, 4 Jan 2026 11:59:05 -0500, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On 1/4/2026 9:51 AM, NoBody wrote:Glad you admit it. That's the first step to recovery.
On Sat, 3 Jan 2026 11:51:58 -0500, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On 1/3/2026 9:48 AM, NoBody wrote:
On Fri, 2 Jan 2026 16:05:15 -0500, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On 1/2/2026 7:11 AM, NoBody wrote:
On Thu, 1 Jan 2026 20:33:28 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> >>>>>>>> wrote:
On Jan 1, 2026 at 7:14:05 AM PST, "NoBody" <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:Yep. Being that they are liberals, they are concerned with narrative, >>>>>>>> not truth and fact.
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 19:11:12 -0500, Capricorne <capricorne@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Dec 31, 2025 at 11:57:44 AM PST, "shawn" <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 10:13:22 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
wrote:
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
In article <10ip638$3kkbb$2@dont-email.me>, atropos@mac.com wrote:
More and more restaurants around here are automatically adding tips to
the bill-- even for parties of just one or two-- as a mandatory charge.
They don't call them tips, since legally tips have to be voluntary. They
label them things like "staff health care fee" and "worker compensation
fee" and "living wage fee".
And of course even after they charge you one of those bullshit mandatory
fees, they still add the tip line at the bottom for you to pay them even
*more* money. Whenever I see one of these exciting new fees on the bill,
I just draw a line with an arrow from the tip line up to the fee, circle
it, and write, "That's your tip."
That reminds me; What's the deal with my FB feed containing several
postings
lecturing me to tip 40% and postings (suspiciously AI-generated) of
people's restaurant bills with comments written about the tip? I saw one
in which the
waiter presumably wrote on a bill with no tip that they were calling the
cops.
LOL. If a waiter ever wrote such a thing I would definitely not tip.
Even if I loved their service. Just to see if they were foolish enough
to call the cops out for my deciding not to offer an optional
gratuity.
This.
I would *so* call their bluff.
I wonder if Trump tips. Funny, just thinking about it we seem to know
the answer, no?
"Former President Donald Trump made an unscheduled campaign stop at >>>>>>>>>> Tony and Nick's Steaks in South Philadelphia on Saturday, prior to a >>>>>>>>>> rally at Temple University in the key battleground state of >>>>>>>>>> Pennsylvania. The visit, which came as a surprise to the restaurant's
owner, left a lasting impression on both staff and patrons. >>>>>>>>>>
Trump left a $500 tip and wrote "no taxes on tips" on the receipt, >>>>>>>>>> aligning with his recent campaign stance to end taxation on tips for >>>>>>>>>> service industry workers. This gesture highlighted a key issue facing
many small business owners and their employees across the country." >>>>>>>>>>
https://www.israelhayom.com/2024/06/23/trump-leaves-500-tip-in-philadelphia-cheesesteak-shop/
All ya had to do is look dude.
"But... but... what about the narrative!?!"
Suzee, Traveler, and Capricorne won't let facts get in the way of a good round
of Trump-bashing.
Gracious me! Surely you must need an oxygen mask at that height... >>>>>>>
You have yet to prove me wrong. The claim was that Trump doesn't tip. >>>>>> You've been proven wrong. Your responses thus far equates to "nut >>>>>> uh".
No one on a rigorous diet of "truth and fact" is ever "proven wrong"... >>>>>
Evasion noted and denial of the obvious on your part is noted.
Obviously.
Troll-o-meter.
On 1/5/2026 7:32 AM, NoBody wrote:
On Sun, 4 Jan 2026 11:49:48 -0500, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On 1/4/2026 9:50 AM, NoBody wrote:
On Sat, 3 Jan 2026 11:30:46 -0500, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On 1/3/2026 9:47 AM, NoBody wrote:
On Fri, 2 Jan 2026 22:55:52 -0500, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On 1/2/2026 7:45 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jan 2, 2026 at 3:17:35 PM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 1/2/2026 4:34 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jan 2, 2026 at 1:00:25 PM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 1/2/2026 7:13 AM, NoBody wrote:
On Thu, 01 Jan 2026 19:20:51 -0500, shawn
<nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
On Thu, 1 Jan 2026 23:28:15 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
wrote:
On Jan 1, 2026 at 3:07:18 PM PST, "shawn" <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
wrote:
On Thu, 1 Jan 2026 20:33:28 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
wrote:
On Jan 1, 2026 at 7:14:05 AM PST, "NoBody" <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 19:11:12 -0500, Capricorne <capricorne@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Dec 31, 2025 at 11:57:44 AM PST, "shawn" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 10:13:22 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
wrote:
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <10ip638$3kkbb$2@dont-email.me>, atropos@mac.com wrote:
More and more restaurants around here are automatically adding tips toThat reminds me; What's the deal with my FB feed containing several
the bill-- even for parties of just one or two-- as a
mandatory charge.
They don't call them tips, since legally tips have to be
voluntary. They
label them things like "staff health care fee" and
"worker compensation
fee" and "living wage fee". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
And of course even after they charge you one of those
bullshit mandatory
fees, they still add the tip line at the bottom for you
to pay them even
*more* money. Whenever I see one of these exciting new
fees on the bill,
I just draw a line with an arrow from the tip line up to
the fee, circle
it, and write, "That's your tip." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
postings
lecturing me to tip 40% and postings (suspiciously AI-generated) of
people's restaurant bills with comments written about the
tip? I saw one
in which the
waiter presumably wrote on a bill with no tip that they
were calling the
cops.
LOL. If a waiter ever wrote such a thing I would definitely not tip.
Even if I loved their service. Just to see if they were foolish enough
to call the cops out for my deciding not to offer an optional
gratuity.
This.
I would *so* call their bluff.
I wonder if Trump tips. Funny, just thinking about it we seem to know
the answer, no?
"Former President Donald Trump made an unscheduled campaign stop at
Tony and Nick's Steaks in South Philadelphia on Saturday, prior to a
rally at Temple University in the key battleground state of
Pennsylvania. The visit, which came as a surprise to the restaurant's
owner, left a lasting impression on both staff and patrons.
Trump left a $500 tip and wrote "no taxes on tips" on the receipt,
aligning with his recent campaign stance to end taxation on tips for
service industry workers. This gesture highlighted a key issue facing
many small business owners and their employees across the country."
https://www.israelhayom.com/2024/06/23/trump-leaves-500-tip-in-philadelphia-cheesesteak-shop/
All ya had to do is look dude.
"But... but... what about the narrative!?!" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Suzee, Traveler, and Capricorne won't let facts get in the way of a good
round
of Trump-bashing.
Well, let me get in on the Trump bashing by pointing out the number of
small businesses that were left in the lurch by Trump after doing work
for him. So I guess he's more than willing to be generous when it's
public facing, like handing out money to people with cameras and
reporters looking on but unwilling to pay businesses for the work he
contracted since there's no one watching.
There were no press or public around when he was showering the golf club
staff
with $100 bills.
sure sounds like there were plenty of people around. Also he was doing
it face to face. Maybe it's easier for him to cheat people if they
aren't in front of him because it's a well known fact that he will
often cheat businesses out of the money they earned doing work for
him. It's apparently been an ongoing thing for him since he got into
business.
Laughter!
The claim that he does not tip is proven false. Why can't you just
admit it?
*Admit* it? Why can't you just read what's been said? >>>>>>>>>>>
"...he's more than willing to be generous when it's >>>>>>>>>>> public facing..."
Except my golf tip example was inside a USSS secure perimeter. No general
public or press were present.
I'm not sure you're really "tipping" someone who's expected to jump >>>>>>>>> between you and a bullet. But, yes, if he wasn't trying to bolster his
reputation for largess, then his motives for tipping may have been as >>>>>>>>> pure as yours or mine would be. Unlikely, imo, but possible.
He wasn't just trying to tip the agents. He was tipping everyone. The hostess,
the club concierge, the caddies, the towel boys, the girl who brought snacks
and drinks, etc.
I have no more to add, but, fwiw, here's Google's AI:
Yes, Donald Trump does tip, though his practices are inconsistent >>>>>>> and sometimes motivated by avoiding bad press; he's been described as >>>>>>> tipping generously with $100 bills to staff at his properties but also >>>>>>> admitted in 2025 he tips mostly to prevent negative publicity, though he
has also been seen leaving large tips, like $500 at a Philly cheesesteak
spot. His public stance has evolved, including policies proposed to make
tipped income tax-free, while also facing criticism for past rules >>>>>>> allowing employers to pocket tips.
AI: The only source that says "information provided here may be
wrong".
*All* sources should only be so candid...
Laughter!
You would be wise to not use sources that have a note like this.
In your wisdom, you seem to that no note means no error.
Whoosh! Not what I said.
Please reread.
You think you're wiser using sources with no such note. Whoosh, indeed.
Quoting AI is worse than citing Wikipedia.
Yet you just did. And picked a factual quote, at that.
Where did I do this? this should be good.
"information provided here may be wrong". You even attributed it.
Show where I attributed my comment to any specific search article. You
apparently have difficulty keeping track of with whom you are
replying.
You quoted *AI*. (You even said so.) QED.
On Mon, 5 Jan 2026 11:44:35 -0500, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On 1/5/2026 7:32 AM, NoBody wrote:
On Sun, 4 Jan 2026 11:49:48 -0500, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On 1/4/2026 9:50 AM, NoBody wrote:
On Sat, 3 Jan 2026 11:30:46 -0500, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On 1/3/2026 9:47 AM, NoBody wrote:
On Fri, 2 Jan 2026 22:55:52 -0500, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> >>>>>>> wrote:
On 1/2/2026 7:45 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jan 2, 2026 at 3:17:35 PM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 1/2/2026 4:34 PM, BTR1701 wrote:He wasn't just trying to tip the agents. He was tipping everyone. The hostess,
On Jan 2, 2026 at 1:00:25 PM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 1/2/2026 7:13 AM, NoBody wrote:
On Thu, 01 Jan 2026 19:20:51 -0500, shawn
<nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
On Thu, 1 Jan 2026 23:28:15 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
wrote:
On Jan 1, 2026 at 3:07:18 PM PST, "shawn" <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
wrote:
On Thu, 1 Jan 2026 20:33:28 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>There were no press or public around when he was showering the golf club
wrote:
On Jan 1, 2026 at 7:14:05 AM PST, "NoBody" <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 19:11:12 -0500, Capricorne <capricorne@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Dec 31, 2025 at 11:57:44 AM PST, "shawn" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:I wonder if Trump tips. Funny, just thinking about it we seem to know
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 10:13:22 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
wrote:
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <10ip638$3kkbb$2@dont-email.me>, atropos@mac.com wrote:
More and more restaurants around here are automatically adding tips toThat reminds me; What's the deal with my FB feed containing several
the bill-- even for parties of just one or two-- as a
mandatory charge.
They don't call them tips, since legally tips have to be
voluntary. They
label them things like "staff health care fee" and
"worker compensation
fee" and "living wage fee". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
And of course even after they charge you one of those
bullshit mandatory
fees, they still add the tip line at the bottom for you
to pay them even
*more* money. Whenever I see one of these exciting new
fees on the bill,
I just draw a line with an arrow from the tip line up to
the fee, circle
it, and write, "That's your tip." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
postings
lecturing me to tip 40% and postings (suspiciously AI-generated) of
people's restaurant bills with comments written about the
tip? I saw one
in which the
waiter presumably wrote on a bill with no tip that they
were calling the
cops.
LOL. If a waiter ever wrote such a thing I would definitely not tip.
Even if I loved their service. Just to see if they were foolish enough
to call the cops out for my deciding not to offer an optional
gratuity.
This.
I would *so* call their bluff. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
the answer, no?
"Former President Donald Trump made an unscheduled campaign stop at
Tony and Nick's Steaks in South Philadelphia on Saturday, prior to a
rally at Temple University in the key battleground state of
Pennsylvania. The visit, which came as a surprise to the restaurant's
owner, left a lasting impression on both staff and patrons.
Trump left a $500 tip and wrote "no taxes on tips" on the receipt,
aligning with his recent campaign stance to end taxation on tips for
service industry workers. This gesture highlighted a key issue facing
many small business owners and their employees across the country."
https://www.israelhayom.com/2024/06/23/trump-leaves-500-tip-in-philadelphia-cheesesteak-shop/
All ya had to do is look dude.
"But... but... what about the narrative!?!" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Suzee, Traveler, and Capricorne won't let facts get in the way of a good
round
of Trump-bashing.
Well, let me get in on the Trump bashing by pointing out the number of
small businesses that were left in the lurch by Trump after doing work
for him. So I guess he's more than willing to be generous when it's
public facing, like handing out money to people with cameras and
reporters looking on but unwilling to pay businesses for the work he
contracted since there's no one watching. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
staff
with $100 bills.
sure sounds like there were plenty of people around. Also he was doing
it face to face. Maybe it's easier for him to cheat people if they
aren't in front of him because it's a well known fact that he will
often cheat businesses out of the money they earned doing work for
him. It's apparently been an ongoing thing for him since he got into
business.
Laughter!
The claim that he does not tip is proven false. Why can't you just
admit it?
*Admit* it? Why can't you just read what's been said? >>>>>>>>>>>>
"...he's more than willing to be generous when it's >>>>>>>>>>>> public facing..."
Except my golf tip example was inside a USSS secure perimeter. No general
public or press were present.
I'm not sure you're really "tipping" someone who's expected to jump >>>>>>>>>> between you and a bullet. But, yes, if he wasn't trying to bolster his
reputation for largess, then his motives for tipping may have been as
pure as yours or mine would be. Unlikely, imo, but possible. >>>>>>>>>
the club concierge, the caddies, the towel boys, the girl who brought snacks
and drinks, etc.
I have no more to add, but, fwiw, here's Google's AI:
Yes, Donald Trump does tip, though his practices are inconsistent
and sometimes motivated by avoiding bad press; he's been described as >>>>>>>> tipping generously with $100 bills to staff at his properties but also >>>>>>>> admitted in 2025 he tips mostly to prevent negative publicity, though he
has also been seen leaving large tips, like $500 at a Philly cheesesteak
spot. His public stance has evolved, including policies proposed to make
tipped income tax-free, while also facing criticism for past rules >>>>>>>> allowing employers to pocket tips.
AI: The only source that says "information provided here may be >>>>>>> wrong".
*All* sources should only be so candid...
Laughter!
You would be wise to not use sources that have a note like this.
In your wisdom, you seem to that no note means no error.
Whoosh! Not what I said.
Please reread.
You think you're wiser using sources with no such note. Whoosh, indeed.
Quoting AI is worse than citing Wikipedia.
Yet you just did. And picked a factual quote, at that.
Where did I do this? this should be good.
"information provided here may be wrong". You even attributed it.
Show where I attributed my comment to any specific search article. You
apparently have difficulty keeping track of with whom you are
replying.
You quoted *AI*. (You even said so.) QED.
Same question as the one you ignored. Repeating your claim is not an
answer. The answer is that you lied about what I said...unless you
can show exactly where I said what you claim.
It's kind of pathetic to just not admit you were in error.
On Mon, 5 Jan 2026 11:47:54 -0500, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On 1/5/2026 7:32 AM, NoBody wrote:
On Sun, 4 Jan 2026 11:59:05 -0500, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On 1/4/2026 9:51 AM, NoBody wrote:Glad you admit it. That's the first step to recovery.
On Sat, 3 Jan 2026 11:51:58 -0500, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On 1/3/2026 9:48 AM, NoBody wrote:
On Fri, 2 Jan 2026 16:05:15 -0500, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> >>>>>>> wrote:
On 1/2/2026 7:11 AM, NoBody wrote:
On Thu, 1 Jan 2026 20:33:28 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
On Jan 1, 2026 at 7:14:05 AM PST, "NoBody" <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:Yep. Being that they are liberals, they are concerned with narrative,
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 19:11:12 -0500, Capricorne <capricorne@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Dec 31, 2025 at 11:57:44 AM PST, "shawn" <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 10:13:22 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
wrote:
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
In article <10ip638$3kkbb$2@dont-email.me>, atropos@mac.com wrote:
More and more restaurants around here are automatically adding tips to
the bill-- even for parties of just one or two-- as a mandatory charge.
They don't call them tips, since legally tips have to be voluntary. They
label them things like "staff health care fee" and "worker compensation
fee" and "living wage fee".
And of course even after they charge you one of those bullshit mandatory
fees, they still add the tip line at the bottom for you to pay them even
*more* money. Whenever I see one of these exciting new fees on the bill,
I just draw a line with an arrow from the tip line up to the fee, circle
it, and write, "That's your tip."
That reminds me; What's the deal with my FB feed containing several
postings
lecturing me to tip 40% and postings (suspiciously AI-generated) of
people's restaurant bills with comments written about the tip? I saw one
in which the
waiter presumably wrote on a bill with no tip that they were calling the
cops.
LOL. If a waiter ever wrote such a thing I would definitely not tip.
Even if I loved their service. Just to see if they were foolish enough
to call the cops out for my deciding not to offer an optional
gratuity.
This.
I would *so* call their bluff.
I wonder if Trump tips. Funny, just thinking about it we seem to know
the answer, no?
"Former President Donald Trump made an unscheduled campaign stop at >>>>>>>>>>> Tony and Nick's Steaks in South Philadelphia on Saturday, prior to a
rally at Temple University in the key battleground state of >>>>>>>>>>> Pennsylvania. The visit, which came as a surprise to the restaurant's
owner, left a lasting impression on both staff and patrons. >>>>>>>>>>>
Trump left a $500 tip and wrote "no taxes on tips" on the receipt, >>>>>>>>>>> aligning with his recent campaign stance to end taxation on tips for
service industry workers. This gesture highlighted a key issue facing
many small business owners and their employees across the country." >>>>>>>>>>>
https://www.israelhayom.com/2024/06/23/trump-leaves-500-tip-in-philadelphia-cheesesteak-shop/
All ya had to do is look dude.
"But... but... what about the narrative!?!"
Suzee, Traveler, and Capricorne won't let facts get in the way of a good round
of Trump-bashing.
not truth and fact.
Gracious me! Surely you must need an oxygen mask at that height... >>>>>>>>
You have yet to prove me wrong. The claim was that Trump doesn't tip. >>>>>>> You've been proven wrong. Your responses thus far equates to "nut >>>>>>> uh".
No one on a rigorous diet of "truth and fact" is ever "proven wrong"... >>>>>>
Evasion noted and denial of the obvious on your part is noted.
Obviously.
Troll-o-meter.
Ah now you turn and run. Got it.
On 1/6/2026 7:28 AM, NoBody wrote:
On Mon, 5 Jan 2026 11:44:35 -0500, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On 1/5/2026 7:32 AM, NoBody wrote:
On Sun, 4 Jan 2026 11:49:48 -0500, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On 1/4/2026 9:50 AM, NoBody wrote:
On Sat, 3 Jan 2026 11:30:46 -0500, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On 1/3/2026 9:47 AM, NoBody wrote:
On Fri, 2 Jan 2026 22:55:52 -0500, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> >>>>>>>> wrote:
On 1/2/2026 7:45 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jan 2, 2026 at 3:17:35 PM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 1/2/2026 4:34 PM, BTR1701 wrote:He wasn't just trying to tip the agents. He was tipping everyone. The hostess,
On Jan 2, 2026 at 1:00:25 PM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 1/2/2026 7:13 AM, NoBody wrote:
On Thu, 01 Jan 2026 19:20:51 -0500, shawn
<nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
On Thu, 1 Jan 2026 23:28:15 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
wrote:
On Jan 1, 2026 at 3:07:18 PM PST, "shawn" <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
wrote:
On Thu, 1 Jan 2026 20:33:28 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>There were no press or public around when he was showering the golf club
wrote:
On Jan 1, 2026 at 7:14:05 AM PST, "NoBody" <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 19:11:12 -0500, Capricorne <capricorne@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Dec 31, 2025 at 11:57:44 AM PST, "shawn" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:I wonder if Trump tips. Funny, just thinking about it we seem to know
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 10:13:22 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
wrote:
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <10ip638$3kkbb$2@dont-email.me>, atropos@mac.com wrote:
More and more restaurants around here are automatically adding tips toThat reminds me; What's the deal with my FB feed containing several
the bill-- even for parties of just one or two-- as a
mandatory charge.
They don't call them tips, since legally tips have to be
voluntary. They
label them things like "staff health care fee" and
"worker compensation
fee" and "living wage fee". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
And of course even after they charge you one of those
bullshit mandatory
fees, they still add the tip line at the bottom for you
to pay them even
*more* money. Whenever I see one of these exciting new
fees on the bill,
I just draw a line with an arrow from the tip line up to
the fee, circle
it, and write, "That's your tip." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
postings
lecturing me to tip 40% and postings (suspiciously AI-generated) of
people's restaurant bills with comments written about the
tip? I saw one
in which the
waiter presumably wrote on a bill with no tip that they
were calling the
cops.
LOL. If a waiter ever wrote such a thing I would definitely not tip.
Even if I loved their service. Just to see if they were foolish enough
to call the cops out for my deciding not to offer an optional
gratuity.
This.
I would *so* call their bluff. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
the answer, no?
"Former President Donald Trump made an unscheduled campaign stop at
Tony and Nick's Steaks in South Philadelphia on Saturday, prior to a
rally at Temple University in the key battleground state of
Pennsylvania. The visit, which came as a surprise to the restaurant's
owner, left a lasting impression on both staff and patrons.
Trump left a $500 tip and wrote "no taxes on tips" on the receipt,
aligning with his recent campaign stance to end taxation on tips for
service industry workers. This gesture highlighted a key issue facing
many small business owners and their employees across the country."
https://www.israelhayom.com/2024/06/23/trump-leaves-500-tip-in-philadelphia-cheesesteak-shop/
All ya had to do is look dude.
"But... but... what about the narrative!?!" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Suzee, Traveler, and Capricorne won't let facts get in the way of a good
round
of Trump-bashing.
Well, let me get in on the Trump bashing by pointing out the number of
small businesses that were left in the lurch by Trump after doing work
for him. So I guess he's more than willing to be generous when it's
public facing, like handing out money to people with cameras and
reporters looking on but unwilling to pay businesses for the work he
contracted since there's no one watching. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
staff
with $100 bills.
sure sounds like there were plenty of people around. Also he was doing
it face to face. Maybe it's easier for him to cheat people if they
aren't in front of him because it's a well known fact that he will
often cheat businesses out of the money they earned doing work for
him. It's apparently been an ongoing thing for him since he got into
business.
Laughter!
The claim that he does not tip is proven false. Why can't you just
admit it?
*Admit* it? Why can't you just read what's been said? >>>>>>>>>>>>>
"...he's more than willing to be generous when it's >>>>>>>>>>>>> public facing..."
Except my golf tip example was inside a USSS secure perimeter. No general
public or press were present.
I'm not sure you're really "tipping" someone who's expected to jump >>>>>>>>>>> between you and a bullet. But, yes, if he wasn't trying to bolster his
reputation for largess, then his motives for tipping may have been as
pure as yours or mine would be. Unlikely, imo, but possible. >>>>>>>>>>
the club concierge, the caddies, the towel boys, the girl who brought snacks
and drinks, etc.
I have no more to add, but, fwiw, here's Google's AI:
Yes, Donald Trump does tip, though his practices are inconsistent
and sometimes motivated by avoiding bad press; he's been described as >>>>>>>>> tipping generously with $100 bills to staff at his properties but also
admitted in 2025 he tips mostly to prevent negative publicity, though he
has also been seen leaving large tips, like $500 at a Philly cheesesteak
spot. His public stance has evolved, including policies proposed to make
tipped income tax-free, while also facing criticism for past rules >>>>>>>>> allowing employers to pocket tips.
AI: The only source that says "information provided here may be >>>>>>>> wrong".
*All* sources should only be so candid...
Laughter!
You would be wise to not use sources that have a note like this.
In your wisdom, you seem to that no note means no error.
Whoosh! Not what I said.
Please reread.
You think you're wiser using sources with no such note. Whoosh, indeed. >>>
Quoting AI is worse than citing Wikipedia.
Yet you just did. And picked a factual quote, at that.
Where did I do this? this should be good.
"information provided here may be wrong". You even attributed it.
Show where I attributed my comment to any specific search article. You >>>> apparently have difficulty keeping track of with whom you are
replying.
You quoted *AI*. (You even said so.) QED.
Same question as the one you ignored. Repeating your claim is not an
answer. The answer is that you lied about what I said...unless you
can show exactly where I said what you claim.
YOU (above):
AI...says "information provided here may be wrong".
(That's you quoting AI.)
It's kind of pathetic to just not admit you were in error.
Here's your chance...
On Tue, 6 Jan 2026 11:26:26 -0500, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On 1/6/2026 7:28 AM, NoBody wrote:
On Mon, 5 Jan 2026 11:44:35 -0500, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On 1/5/2026 7:32 AM, NoBody wrote:
On Sun, 4 Jan 2026 11:49:48 -0500, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On 1/4/2026 9:50 AM, NoBody wrote:
On Sat, 3 Jan 2026 11:30:46 -0500, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> >>>>>>> wrote:
On 1/3/2026 9:47 AM, NoBody wrote:
On Fri, 2 Jan 2026 22:55:52 -0500, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
On 1/2/2026 7:45 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jan 2, 2026 at 3:17:35 PM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 1/2/2026 4:34 PM, BTR1701 wrote:He wasn't just trying to tip the agents. He was tipping everyone. The hostess,
On Jan 2, 2026 at 1:00:25 PM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 1/2/2026 7:13 AM, NoBody wrote:
On Thu, 01 Jan 2026 19:20:51 -0500, shawn >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
On Thu, 1 Jan 2026 23:28:15 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
wrote:
On Jan 1, 2026 at 3:07:18 PM PST, "shawn" <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
wrote:
On Thu, 1 Jan 2026 20:33:28 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>There were no press or public around when he was showering the golf club
wrote:
On Jan 1, 2026 at 7:14:05 AM PST, "NoBody" <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 19:11:12 -0500, Capricorne <capricorne@gmail.com>"But... but... what about the narrative!?!" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
wrote:
On Dec 31, 2025 at 11:57:44 AM PST, "shawn" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:I wonder if Trump tips. Funny, just thinking about it we seem to know
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 10:13:22 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
wrote:
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <10ip638$3kkbb$2@dont-email.me>, atropos@mac.com wrote:
More and more restaurants around here are automatically adding tips toThat reminds me; What's the deal with my FB feed containing several
the bill-- even for parties of just one or two-- as a
mandatory charge.
They don't call them tips, since legally tips have to be
voluntary. They
label them things like "staff health care fee" and
"worker compensation
fee" and "living wage fee". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
And of course even after they charge you one of those
bullshit mandatory
fees, they still add the tip line at the bottom for you
to pay them even
*more* money. Whenever I see one of these exciting new
fees on the bill,
I just draw a line with an arrow from the tip line up to
the fee, circle
it, and write, "That's your tip." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
postings
lecturing me to tip 40% and postings (suspiciously AI-generated) of
people's restaurant bills with comments written about the
tip? I saw one
in which the
waiter presumably wrote on a bill with no tip that they
were calling the
cops.
LOL. If a waiter ever wrote such a thing I would definitely not tip.
Even if I loved their service. Just to see if they were foolish enough
to call the cops out for my deciding not to offer an optional
gratuity.
This.
I would *so* call their bluff. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
the answer, no?
"Former President Donald Trump made an unscheduled campaign stop at
Tony and Nick's Steaks in South Philadelphia on Saturday, prior to a
rally at Temple University in the key battleground state of
Pennsylvania. The visit, which came as a surprise to the restaurant's
owner, left a lasting impression on both staff and patrons.
Trump left a $500 tip and wrote "no taxes on tips" on the receipt,
aligning with his recent campaign stance to end taxation on tips for
service industry workers. This gesture highlighted a key issue facing
many small business owners and their employees across the country."
https://www.israelhayom.com/2024/06/23/trump-leaves-500-tip-in-philadelphia-cheesesteak-shop/
All ya had to do is look dude. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Suzee, Traveler, and Capricorne won't let facts get in the way of a good
round
of Trump-bashing.
Well, let me get in on the Trump bashing by pointing out the number of
small businesses that were left in the lurch by Trump after doing work
for him. So I guess he's more than willing to be generous when it's
public facing, like handing out money to people with cameras and
reporters looking on but unwilling to pay businesses for the work he
contracted since there's no one watching. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
staff
with $100 bills.
sure sounds like there were plenty of people around. Also he was doing
it face to face. Maybe it's easier for him to cheat people if they
aren't in front of him because it's a well known fact that he will
often cheat businesses out of the money they earned doing work for
him. It's apparently been an ongoing thing for him since he got into
business.
Laughter!
The claim that he does not tip is proven false. Why can't you just
admit it?
*Admit* it? Why can't you just read what's been said? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
"...he's more than willing to be generous when it's >>>>>>>>>>>>>> public facing..."
Except my golf tip example was inside a USSS secure perimeter. No general
public or press were present.
I'm not sure you're really "tipping" someone who's expected to jump
between you and a bullet. But, yes, if he wasn't trying to bolster his
reputation for largess, then his motives for tipping may have been as
pure as yours or mine would be. Unlikely, imo, but possible. >>>>>>>>>>>
the club concierge, the caddies, the towel boys, the girl who brought snacks
and drinks, etc.
I have no more to add, but, fwiw, here's Google's AI:
Yes, Donald Trump does tip, though his practices are inconsistent
and sometimes motivated by avoiding bad press; he's been described as
tipping generously with $100 bills to staff at his properties but also
admitted in 2025 he tips mostly to prevent negative publicity, though he
has also been seen leaving large tips, like $500 at a Philly cheesesteak
spot. His public stance has evolved, including policies proposed to make
tipped income tax-free, while also facing criticism for past rules >>>>>>>>>> allowing employers to pocket tips.
AI: The only source that says "information provided here may be >>>>>>>>> wrong".
*All* sources should only be so candid...
Laughter!
You would be wise to not use sources that have a note like this.
In your wisdom, you seem to that no note means no error.
Whoosh! Not what I said.
Please reread.
You think you're wiser using sources with no such note. Whoosh, indeed. >>>>
Quoting AI is worse than citing Wikipedia.
Yet you just did. And picked a factual quote, at that.
Where did I do this? this should be good.
"information provided here may be wrong". You even attributed it.
Show where I attributed my comment to any specific search article. You >>>>> apparently have difficulty keeping track of with whom you are
replying.
You quoted *AI*. (You even said so.) QED.
Same question as the one you ignored. Repeating your claim is not an
answer. The answer is that you lied about what I said...unless you
can show exactly where I said what you claim.
YOU (above):
AI...says "information provided here may be wrong".
(That's you quoting AI.)
Uh no. You'd best learn what a "quote" means if you're going to use
the term. Did I attribute it to any specific AI engine? If not, it's
hardly a quote is it?
It's kind of pathetic to just not admit you were in error.
Here's your chance...
Since you're doubling down on your error, I'll leave the ball in your
court.
BTW, you have SO wandered away from the topic of tips.
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