• [NEWS] New, separate, Star Trek movie (barely) announced

    From Your Name@YourName@YourISP.com to rec.arts.movies.current-films, rec.arts.sf.movies, rec.arts.startrek.current on Sat Nov 15 13:40:28 2025
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    No actual details, but "a completely new take in theaStar Trekauniverse
    and is not connected to any previous or current television series,
    movie, or prior movie development projects" ... that's usually an
    incredibly bad sign that turns out to be a a ridiculous "reboot"
    attempt and/or an ill-fitting drivel cash-in exercise. :-(



    New Star Trek Movie Announced, Directors & First Details Revealed
    -----------------------------------------------------------------
    A new Star Trek movie is in the works.

    Jonathan Goldstein and John Francis Daley are a filmmaking duo
    who worked on the scripts for movies like 2011's Horrible Bosses,
    2013's The Incredible Burt Wonderstone, and 2013's Cloudy with a
    Chance of Meatballs 2. They directed their first movie together
    in 2015, Vacation, before they went on to make 2018's Game Night
    and 2023's Dungeons & Dragons: Honor Among Thieves.

    Now, per Deadline, Goldstein and Daley have been tapped to write
    and direct a new Star Trek movie for Paramount Pictures. They will
    also produce under their GoldDay banner.

    What do we know about the new Star Trek movie?
    Plot details are being kept under wraps at this time; however, it
    is known that the movie will be "a completely new take in theaStar
    Trekauniverse and is not connected to any previous or current
    television series, movie, or prior movie development projects.
    That pitch falls in line with Skydance founder David Ellison's
    recent comments on an earning call where he said the nextaStar
    Trekafilm would not be a sequel in the Chris Pine-led series but
    something different with new actors. While not confirmed, sources
    also add it's likely you will also see new characters being
    featured in this version."

    Further details are not available at this time. A release date has
    not yet been set.

    In addition to the aforementioned titles, Goldstein and Daley also
    worked on the stories or scripts for 2017's Spider-Man: Homecoming,
    2021's Vacation Friends, 2023's The Flash, and 2025's A Minecraft
    Movie. They've got an action-adventure film titled Mayday with Ryan
    Reynolds and Kenneth Branagh that is also coming out at some point,
    though that project also does not have a release date.

    The last theatrically released Star Trek movie was 2016's Star Trek
    Beyond, while Star Trek: Section 31 premiered on Paramount+ this
    past January.



    <https://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/2062630-new-star-trek-movie-announced-directors-first-details-revealed>





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  • From Paul S Person@psperson@old.netcom.invalid to rec.arts.movies.current-films,rec.arts.sf.movies,rec.arts.startrek.current on Sat Nov 15 08:11:58 2025
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    On Sat, 15 Nov 2025 13:40:28 +1300, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
    wrote:

    No actual details, but "a completely new take in theaStar Trekauniverse
    and is not connected to any previous or current television series,
    movie, or prior movie development projects" ... that's usually an
    incredibly bad sign that turns out to be a a ridiculous "reboot"
    attempt and/or an ill-fitting drivel cash-in exercise. :-(
    Well, we already had an incredibly bad reboot [1], so one more won't
    make any never-mind.
    [1] Which did, however, manage to show what "wrath" looks like,
    confirming that the "wrath" of Khan was more of a temper tantrum. Or a hissy-fit.
    --
    "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
    Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
    Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"
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  • From Your Name@YourName@YourISP.com to rec.arts.startrek.current,rec.arts.sf.movies,rec.arts.movies.current-films on Sun Nov 16 12:09:18 2025
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    On 2025-11-15 16:11:58 +0000, Paul S Person said:
    On Sat, 15 Nov 2025 13:40:28 +1300, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
    wrote:

    No actual details, but "a completely new take in theaStar Trek
    universe>and is not connected to any previous or current television
    series,>movie, or prior movie development projects" ... that's usually
    incredibly bad sign that turns out to be a a ridiculous
    "reboot">attempt and/or an ill-fitting drivel cash-in exercise. :-(

    Well, we already had an incredibly bad reboot [1], so one more won't
    make any never-mind.

    Except every idiotic reboot adds its own new level of inconsistency and silliness, so further diluting and confusing the franchise. :-(

    You just have to look at the comic books. They've have so many changes
    over the years that now nobody know what "Batman", "Superman",
    "Spider-man", etc. actually are any more.



    [1] Which did, however, manage to show what "wrath" looks like,
    confirming that the "wrath" of Khan was more of a temper tantrum. Or a hissy-fit.


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  • From Paul S Person@psperson@old.netcom.invalid to rec.arts.startrek.current,rec.arts.sf.movies,rec.arts.movies.current-films on Sun Nov 16 08:32:20 2025
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    On Sun, 16 Nov 2025 12:09:18 +1300, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
    wrote:
    On 2025-11-15 16:11:58 +0000, Paul S Person said:
    On Sat, 15 Nov 2025 13:40:28 +1300, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
    wrote:

    No actual details, but "a completely new take in theaStar Trek
    universe>and is not connected to any previous or current television
    series,>movie, or prior movie development projects" ... that's usually
    incredibly bad sign that turns out to be a a ridiculous
    "reboot">attempt and/or an ill-fitting drivel cash-in exercise. :-(

    Well, we already had an incredibly bad reboot [1], so one more won't
    make any never-mind.

    Except every idiotic reboot adds its own new level of inconsistency and >silliness, so further diluting and confusing the franchise. :-(
    Only if you take them seriously. The ST reboots I ignore (having seen
    the first two or three, BTW). The James Bond reboots (now that they
    are complete) are something I am considering ignoring.
    Although if they pushed on with the 007 in the last one /and/ returned
    to actual James Bond films instead of technothrillers like any others
    which happen to have James Bond in them, that might be interesting.
    You just have to look at the comic books. They've have so many changes
    over the years that now nobody know what "Batman", "Superman",
    "Spider-man", etc. actually are any more.
    I don't read the comics, but the graphic novel /Crisis on Infinite
    Earths/ and some of the DCAU films that show clearly different
    realities suggests that a lot of confusion is from someone having a
    "great idea" and nobody in Editorial having the guts to say "no".
    So we end up with a Multiverse, in which the characters are whatever
    they need to be for the story at hand because any variant is in the
    Multiverse /somewhere/.
    [1] Which did, however, manage to show what "wrath" looks like,
    confirming that the "wrath" of Khan was more of a temper tantrum. Or a
    hissy-fit.
    --
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    Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
    Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"
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  • From Dimensional Traveler@dtravel@sonic.net to rec.arts.startrek.current,rec.arts.sf.movies,rec.arts.movies.current-films on Sun Nov 16 08:56:56 2025
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    On 11/16/2025 8:32 AM, Paul S Person wrote:

    Although if they pushed on with the 007 in the last one /and/ returned
    to actual James Bond films instead of technothrillers like any others
    which happen to have James Bond in them, that might be interesting.

    Considering that Dr. No was one of the earliest technothrillers filmed,
    I think you have that backward. All the technothrillers are Bond movies without James Bond.
    --
    I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
    dirty old man.
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  • From The True Melissa@thetruemelissa@gmail.com to rec.arts.movies.current-films,rec.arts.sf.movies,rec.arts.startrek.current on Mon Nov 17 06:46:33 2025
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    In article <10f8i5s$3716j$1@dont-email.me>,
    YourName@YourISP.com says...
    What do we know about the new Star Trek movie?
    Plot details are being kept under wraps at this time; however, it
    is known that the movie will be "a completely new take in theaStar
    Trekauniverse and is not connected to any previous or current
    television series, movie, or prior movie development projects.
    That pitch falls in line with Skydance founder David Ellison's
    recent comments on an earning call where he said the nextaStar
    Trekafilm would not be a sequel in the Chris Pine-led series but
    something different with new actors. While not confirmed, sources
    also add it's likely you will also see new characters being
    featured in this version."


    You know, I'd be fine with this approach if they featured
    a different ship. It could be interesting to see a ship
    in some role other than exploration and first contact.
    There are other parts of the history which could be
    filled in, as opposed to rewriting existing history.


    Melissa

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  • From ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan@tednolan to rec.arts.movies.current-films,rec.arts.sf.movies,rec.arts.startrek.current on Mon Nov 17 13:44:01 2025
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    In article <MPG.4384d52780a2fadc989733@news.eternal-september.org>,
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    In article <10f8i5s$3716j$1@dont-email.me>,
    YourName@YourISP.com says...
    What do we know about the new Star Trek movie?
    Plot details are being kept under wraps at this time; however, it
    is known that the movie will be "a completely new take in theaStar
    Trekauniverse and is not connected to any previous or current
    television series, movie, or prior movie development projects.
    That pitch falls in line with Skydance founder David Ellison's
    recent comments on an earning call where he said the nextaStar
    Trekafilm would not be a sequel in the Chris Pine-led series but
    something different with new actors. While not confirmed, sources
    also add it's likely you will also see new characters being
    featured in this version."


    You know, I'd be fine with this approach if they featured
    a different ship. It could be interesting to see a ship
    in some role other than exploration and first contact.
    There are other parts of the history which could be
    filled in, as opposed to rewriting existing history.


    "The Adventures Of Harvey Mudd"!
    --
    columbiaclosings.com
    What's not in Columbia anymore..
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  • From Paul S Person@psperson@old.netcom.invalid to rec.arts.startrek.current,rec.arts.sf.movies,rec.arts.movies.current-films on Mon Nov 17 09:01:43 2025
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    On Sun, 16 Nov 2025 08:56:56 -0800, Dimensional Traveler
    <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/16/2025 8:32 AM, Paul S Person wrote:

    Although if they pushed on with the 007 in the last one /and/ returned
    to actual James Bond films instead of technothrillers like any others
    which happen to have James Bond in them, that might be interesting.

    Considering that Dr. No was one of the earliest technothrillers filmed,
    I think you have that backward. All the technothrillers are Bond movies >without James Bond.
    Sorry.
    /Dr. No/ was a James Bond film. It is about James Bond from start to
    finish. His mission is to find what happened to Strangways and rectify
    the situation.
    Even the nuclear reactor is only there so it will explode in the end.
    BTW, the book didn't need a nuclear reactor for Bond to succeed. The
    film had it only because they wanted Dr No to be more than just a
    guano mine owner who doubles as the KGB Paymaster for the western
    hemisphere (replacing Mr Big after /his/ encounter with James Bond).
    The reboots are not James Bond films. They are far too serious. And
    the buildings are far too modern. And the plots are ... the only one
    that I found satisfying was /Quantum of Solace/, which is saying
    something.
    They do, however, make me appreciate the earlier films. Even the line
    "We'll cut him off at the precipice" now seems like a welcome touch of
    humor instead of an utter groaner.
    --
    "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
    Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
    Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"
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  • From Your Name@YourName@YourISP.com to rec.arts.startrek.current,rec.arts.sf.movies,rec.arts.movies.current-films on Tue Nov 18 11:39:32 2025
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    On 2025-11-17 11:46:33 +0000, The True Melissa said:
    In article <10f8i5s$3716j$1@dont-email.me>,
    YourName@YourISP.com says...

    What do we know about the new Star Trek movie?
    Plot details are being kept under wraps at this time; however, it
    is known that the movie will be "a completely new take in theaStar
    Trekauniverse and is not connected to any previous or current
    television series, movie, or prior movie development projects.
    That pitch falls in line with Skydance founder David Ellison's
    recent comments on an earning call where he said the nextaStar
    Trekafilm would not be a sequel in the Chris Pine-led series but
    something different with new actors. While not confirmed, sources
    also add it's likely you will also see new characters being
    featured in this version."

    You know, I'd be fine with this approach if they featured
    a different ship. It could be interesting to see a ship
    in some role other than exploration and first contact.
    There are other parts of the history which could be
    filled in, as opposed to rewriting existing history.

    That's what "Enterprise" tried to do .. and failed miserably.

    Deep Space Nine and Voyager also tried at and were more successful.

    The problems occur when some new idiot in charge starts making up their
    own silly ideas that don't fit with what has already been established.

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  • From The True Melissa@thetruemelissa@gmail.com to rec.arts.startrek.current,rec.arts.sf.movies,rec.arts.movies.current-films on Wed Nov 19 14:32:38 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.startrek.current

    In article <10fg874$1684g$1@dont-email.me>,
    YourName@YourISP.com says...

    On 2025-11-17 11:46:33 +0000, The True Melissa said:


    You know, I'd be fine with this approach if they featured
    a different ship. It could be interesting to see a ship
    in some role other than exploration and first contact.
    There are other parts of the history which could be
    filled in, as opposed to rewriting existing history.

    That's what "Enterprise" tried to do .. and failed miserably.

    Deep Space Nine and Voyager also tried at and were more successful.

    The problems occur when some new idiot in charge starts making up their
    own silly ideas that don't fit with what has already been established.

    I had a weird relationship with Enterprise. I didn't look
    forward to it, but when I did watch it, I generally
    enjoyed it. I eventually concluded that it was a good
    show but not good Star Trek.

    I dropped out, though, so I missed the ending everyone
    hated.


    Melissa

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  • From Your Name@YourName@YourISP.com to rec.arts.startrek.current,rec.arts.sf.movies,rec.arts.movies.current-films on Thu Nov 20 10:46:51 2025
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    On 2025-11-19 19:32:38 +0000, The True Melissa said:
    In article <10fg874$1684g$1@dont-email.me>,
    YourName@YourISP.com says...
    On 2025-11-17 11:46:33 +0000, The True Melissa said:

    You know, I'd be fine with this approach if they featured a different
    ship. It could be interesting to see a ship in some role other than
    exploration and first contact. There are other parts of the history
    which could be filled in, as opposed to rewriting existing history.

    That's what "Enterprise" tried to do .. and failed miserably.

    Deep Space Nine and Voyager also tried at and were more successful.

    The problems occur when some new idiot in charge starts making up their
    own silly ideas that don't fit with what has already been established.

    I had a weird relationship with Enterprise. I didn't look forward to
    it, but when I did watch it, I generally enjoyed it. I eventually
    concluded that it was a good show but not good Star Trek.

    I stopped watching Enterprise after about ten minutes (or whenever it
    was the first idiotic soft-porn "Oil Me Up Scotty" so-called
    'decontamination' scene started. It was patently obvious they were
    simply going to sink to the gutter-level to boost viewer numbers.



    I dropped out, though, so I missed the ending everyone hated.

    Most real Star Trek fans loved the ending (even if like me they never
    saw it), because it made the entire show a complete load of nonsense
    that can easily be ignored. :-)



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  • From ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan@tednolan to rec.arts.startrek.current,rec.arts.sf.movies,rec.arts.movies.current-films on Wed Nov 19 23:33:40 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.startrek.current

    In article <10fldsb$2htdb$1@dont-email.me>,
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
    On 2025-11-19 19:32:38 +0000, The True Melissa said:
    In article <10fg874$1684g$1@dont-email.me>,
    YourName@YourISP.com says...
    On 2025-11-17 11:46:33 +0000, The True Melissa said:

    You know, I'd be fine with this approach if they featured a different >>>> ship. It could be interesting to see a ship in some role other than
    exploration and first contact. There are other parts of the history
    which could be filled in, as opposed to rewriting existing history.

    That's what "Enterprise" tried to do .. and failed miserably.

    Deep Space Nine and Voyager also tried at and were more successful.

    The problems occur when some new idiot in charge starts making up their
    own silly ideas that don't fit with what has already been established.

    I had a weird relationship with Enterprise. I didn't look forward to
    it, but when I did watch it, I generally enjoyed it. I eventually
    concluded that it was a good show but not good Star Trek.

    I stopped watching Enterprise after about ten minutes (or whenever it
    was the first idiotic soft-porn "Oil Me Up Scotty" so-called >'decontamination' scene started. It was patently obvious they were
    simply going to sink to the gutter-level to boost viewer numbers.


    Right. Unlike the orion slave girls, mini-skirts & braless yeomen of TOS...



    I dropped out, though, so I missed the ending everyone hated.

    Most real Star Trek fans loved the ending (even if like me they never
    saw it), because it made the entire show a complete load of nonsense
    that can easily be ignored. :-)


    Enterprise was on some bargin basement network, UPN maybe, and the
    local station that was a member dropped the affiliation at some point
    during the show's run, so it was no longer possible to catch it.

    I recall wanting to slap Phlox around after he refused to cure
    those first contact aliens, but it seemed to be getting a bit better
    after that.
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    columbiaclosings.com
    What's not in Columbia anymore..
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  • From The True Melissa@thetruemelissa@gmail.com to rec.arts.startrek.current,rec.arts.sf.movies,rec.arts.movies.current-films on Fri Nov 21 06:32:48 2025
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    In article <mo72ekFllk0U1@mid.individual.net>,
    ted@loft.tnolan.com says...

    In article <10fldsb$2htdb$1@dont-email.me>,
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
    On 2025-11-19 19:32:38 +0000, The True Melissa said:
    In article <10fg874$1684g$1@dont-email.me>,
    YourName@YourISP.com says...
    On 2025-11-17 11:46:33 +0000, The True Melissa said:

    You know, I'd be fine with this approach if they featured a different >>>> ship. It could be interesting to see a ship in some role other than >>>> exploration and first contact. There are other parts of the history >>>> which could be filled in, as opposed to rewriting existing history.

    That's what "Enterprise" tried to do .. and failed miserably.

    Deep Space Nine and Voyager also tried at and were more successful.

    The problems occur when some new idiot in charge starts making up their >>> own silly ideas that don't fit with what has already been established.

    I had a weird relationship with Enterprise. I didn't look forward to
    it, but when I did watch it, I generally enjoyed it. I eventually
    concluded that it was a good show but not good Star Trek.

    I stopped watching Enterprise after about ten minutes (or whenever it
    was the first idiotic soft-porn "Oil Me Up Scotty" so-called >'decontamination' scene started. It was patently obvious they were
    simply going to sink to the gutter-level to boost viewer numbers.


    Right. Unlike the orion slave girls, mini-skirts & braless yeomen of TOS...

    Interesting point! Everyone hated the decontamination
    scene, but it wasn't anything new. Our tastes had
    changed, I guess. A prequel may attract those who take
    the world more seriously.


    Melissa



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  • From WolfFan@akwolffan@zoho.com to rec.arts.startrek.current, rec.arts.sf.movies, rec.arts.movies.current-films on Sat Nov 22 19:27:04 2025
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    On Nov 19, 2025, Your Name wrote
    (in article <10fldsb$2htdb$1@dont-email.me>):

    On 2025-11-19 19:32:38 +0000, The True Melissa said:
    In article<10fg874$1684g$1@dont-email.me>,
    YourName@YourISP.com says...
    On 2025-11-17 11:46:33 +0000, The True Melissa said:

    You know, I'd be fine with this approach if they featured a different ship. It could be interesting to see a ship in some role other than exploration and first contact. There are other parts of the history which could be filled in, as opposed to rewriting existing history.

    That's what "Enterprise" tried to do .. and failed miserably.

    Deep Space Nine and Voyager also tried at and were more successful.

    The problems occur when some new idiot in charge starts making up their own silly ideas that don't fit with what has already been established.

    I had a weird relationship with Enterprise. I didn't look forward to
    it, but when I did watch it, I generally enjoyed it. I eventually
    concluded that it was a good show but not good Star Trek.

    I stopped watching Enterprise after about ten minutes (or whenever it
    was the first idiotic soft-porn "Oil Me Up Scotty" so-called 'decontamination' scene started. It was patently obvious they were
    simply going to sink to the gutter-level to boost viewer numbers.

    Who knew that Vulcan girls had points onb their anatomy other than their
    ears?


    I dropped out, though, so I missed the ending everyone hated.

    Most real Star Trek fans loved the ending (even if like me they never
    saw it), because it made the entire show a complete load of nonsense
    that can easily be ignored. :-)

    I pretty much ignored Boobyprize, VrCOger, and Disco; Lower Decks and Strange New Worlds arenrCOt too bad; Pic-a-card had problems, but was better than Boobyprize or VrCOger and far better than the utter disaster that was Disco. Whoever green-lit Disco should be condemned to life in a Klingon penal
    colony.

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