• Totally OT: See a color you've never seen before.

    From Cryptoengineer@petertrei@gmail.com to rec.arts.sf.written on Tue Feb 17 21:54:41 2026
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    This is cool. It uses cone bleaching and after images to create a
    color in your eyes you've never seen.

    Not SF, but this is the nearest thing to The
    Color Out of Space I've ever encountered.


    https://youtu.be/Q6jyq_RY8i8
    Showing you a color yourCOve never seen before.
    Channel: A Brush with Bekah

    The whole channel is worth browsing. She makes
    paints using classical recipes, and explains
    their history. Want to see actual Uranium
    Yellow, Arsenic Green, Vermilion, ultramarine,
    and Royal Purple?


    pt
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  • From ram@ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) to rec.arts.sf.written on Wed Feb 18 16:07:01 2026
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    Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote or quoted:
    Not SF, but this is the nearest thing to The
    Color Out of Space I've ever encountered.

    Back in 2025, some UC Berkeley folks managed to make this color called
    "olo." It's basically a shade no one's ever seen before because it
    sits outside what we can normally perceive.

    They pulled it off using this thing called "Oz," which kind of hacks
    your vision by lighting up just the M-cones on their own - that nev-
    er happens with normal light.

    The people who saw it said it looked like a super intense blue-green,
    but you had to mix in some white light before it lined up with any
    normal color. That proved it's actually beyond our built-in color
    range.


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  • From Don@g@crcomp.net to rec.arts.sf.written on Wed Feb 18 16:17:42 2026
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    Cryptoengineer wrote:
    This is cool. It uses cone bleaching and after images to create a
    color in your eyes you've never seen.

    Not SF, but this is the nearest thing to The
    Color Out of Space I've ever encountered.


    https://youtu.be/Q6jyq_RY8i8
    Showing you a color yourCOve never seen before.
    Channel: A Brush with Bekah

    The whole channel is worth browsing. She makes
    paints using classical recipes, and explains
    their history. Want to see actual Uranium
    Yellow, Arsenic Green, Vermilion, ultramarine,
    and Royal Purple?

    It is indeed incredible how innovative technology prods ongoing ocular optimization.

    # # #

    "Maxfield Parrish - The Highest-Paid American Dreamer" [1] created some
    of my favorite 20th century art:

    <https://www.artrenewal.org/secureimages/artwork/314/314/2695/arizona-large.jpg>
    <https://www.artrenewal.org/secureimages/artwork/314/314/14320/winter_night_landscape_%5Bstudy%5D-large.jpg>

    One of my friends is an artist. She also appreciates the work of
    Parrish. "A shade of cobalt blue has been named Parrish blue after this
    iconic artist." [ibid.]

    # # #

    ART APPRECIATION by di filippo repost:

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------
    From: Don
    Subject: Beware the Hieronymus Bosch

    "Be careful what you wish for, lest it come true!"

    "Be careful what you think, because your thoughts run your life."

    "To sleep, perchance to Dream; aye, there's the rub,
    For in that sleep of death, what dreams may come,"

    Suppose God delivers the afterlife you crave. For instance, if you don't believe in an afterlife, then your afterlife is nihility itself. You get nonexistence because you want it.
    An afterlife qualifies as posthuman on a most personal level. All of
    which brings us to _babylon sisters and other posthumans_ (di filippo).
    Or, more specifically, to a short story in the di filippo collection
    called "a short course in art appreciation."
    In the story, a peptidergic pill induces a physiological, perceptual
    change in users. They experience a different "perceptiverse" based upon
    the pill ingested. A Dali pill delivers a Dali environment. A Vermeer
    pill provides a Vermeer perceptiverse, and so on. As art aficionado
    Alena enthuses:

    "By taking this new neurotropin we'll be enabled to see not
    /like/ Rembrandt, but as if /inhabiting/ Rembrandt's canvases!"

    There's a hitch, of course. A hitch to provide story tension.

    Note: This thread's title is not a spoiler. Bosch isn't in the story. ------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Note.

    [1] Parrish enjoyed a long career and tremendous economic success. For
    example, he became the highest-paid commercial artist in the United
    States by the 1920s. He was well-known for his illustrative works
    of fantastical subjects, as well as his idealized neo-classical
    imagery. The striking compositions are distinctive due to their
    bold tones and saturated hues that result in an ethereal, whimsical
    effect. Parrish admitted that his true passion lay in rendering
    landscapes and he incorporated elements of landscape art in many
    of his works. A shade of cobalt blue has been named Parrish blue
    after this iconic artist.

    <https://www.dailyartmagazine.com/maxfield-parrish/>

    --
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    tells tall tales.. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.' vos |

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  • From Cryptoengineer@petertrei@gmail.com to rec.arts.sf.written on Wed Feb 18 11:48:29 2026
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    On 2/18/2026 11:07 AM, Stefan Ram wrote:
    Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote or quoted:
    Not SF, but this is the nearest thing to The
    Color Out of Space I've ever encountered.

    Back in 2025, some UC Berkeley folks managed to make this color called
    "olo." It's basically a shade no one's ever seen before because it
    sits outside what we can normally perceive.

    They pulled it off using this thing called "Oz," which kind of hacks
    your vision by lighting up just the M-cones on their own - that nev-
    er happens with normal light.

    The people who saw it said it looked like a super intense blue-green,
    but you had to mix in some white light before it lined up with any
    normal color. That proved it's actually beyond our built-in color
    range.

    'Olo' is discussed specifically in the video. Olo was generated by
    using microlasers to stimulate one particular set of cones in the
    retina.

    This video attempts to do something similar by having you stare
    at a (more or less) red screen for a minute to bleach out the
    other two cone types, then switching to teal. This means that
    the M-cones (the ones the laser stimulated) are way more active
    then the other exhausted ones, and for a second or two you see
    an approximation of olo.

    Its pretty neat.


    pt
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  • From Tony Nance@tnusenet17@gmail.com to rec.arts.sf.written on Wed Feb 18 16:10:16 2026
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    On 2/17/26 9:54 PM, Cryptoengineer wrote:
    This is cool. It uses cone bleaching and after images to create a
    color in your eyes you've never seen.

    Not SF, but this is the nearest thing to The
    Color Out of Space I've ever encountered.


    https://youtu.be/Q6jyq_RY8i8
    Showing you a color yourCOve never seen before.
    Channel: A Brush with Bekah


    Interesting - thanks.

    The whole channel is worth browsing. She makes
    paints using classical recipes, and explains
    their history. Want to see actual Uranium
    Yellow, Arsenic Green, Vermilion, ultramarine,
    and Royal Purple?


    In this newsgroup, in this thread, somebody should mention "octarine".

    So I am.
    - Tony

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  • From Titus G@noone@nowhere.com to rec.arts.sf.written on Thu Feb 19 17:23:18 2026
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    On 18/02/2026 15:54, Cryptoengineer wrote:
    This is cool. It uses cone bleaching and after images to create a
    color in your eyes you've never seen.

    Not SF, but this is the nearest thing to The
    Color Out of Space I've ever encountered.


    https://youtu.be/Q6jyq_RY8i8
    Showing you a color yourCOve never seen before.

    I learnt a lot of stuff, much of which I was surprised to have
    forgotten. Brilliant introduction but after the warning to prepare eye
    drops, I stopped watching. I understood exactly what she was saying
    because she was so good at explaining such complications, so did not
    feel the need to experience it, at the expense of later inconvenience.
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  • From quadi@quadibloc@ca.invalid to rec.arts.sf.written on Sun Feb 22 03:31:03 2026
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    On Wed, 18 Feb 2026 16:10:16 -0500, Tony Nance wrote:

    In this newsgroup, in this thread, somebody should mention "octarine".

    So I am.

    Also, it might be relevant to mention that there are women who walk among
    us who see a whole different and vaster universe of color than everyone
    else. That's because the genes for the pigments in the cones of the eye
    are on the X chromosome, so a woman one of whose parents is an anomalous trichromat (a kind of color blindness) could have the three normal cone pigments plus the anomalous pigment in a fourth kind of cone.

    John Savard
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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to rec.arts.sf.written on Sun Feb 22 03:57:09 2026
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    On Sun, 22 Feb 2026 03:31:03 -0000 (UTC), quadi wrote:

    Also, it might be relevant to mention that there are women who walk
    among us who see a whole different and vaster universe of color than
    everyone else. That's because the genes for the pigments in the
    cones of the eye are on the X chromosome, so a woman one of whose
    parents is an anomalous trichromat (a kind of color blindness) could
    have the three normal cone pigments plus the anomalous pigment in a
    fourth kind of cone.

    I have heard about such. One such tetrachromat woman had a successful
    career as an interior decorator. Apparently her talent was in
    distinguishing extra shades of ... beige.

    Conversely, I have heard of cases of colour-blindness being cured by
    the wearing of specially-designed glasses. I suspect the sufferers
    were not true dichromats, it was just their misfortune to have colour
    receptors with peak sensitivities too close together in the spectrum.
    So I think the special glasses were basically filters to magnify the
    difference in stimulation between those different receptors.
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  • From Paul S Person@psperson@old.netcom.invalid to rec.arts.sf.written on Sun Feb 22 09:01:06 2026
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    On Sun, 22 Feb 2026 03:57:09 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D|Oliveiro
    <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
    On Sun, 22 Feb 2026 03:31:03 -0000 (UTC), quadi wrote:

    Also, it might be relevant to mention that there are women who walk
    among us who see a whole different and vaster universe of color than
    everyone else. That's because the genes for the pigments in the
    cones of the eye are on the X chromosome, so a woman one of whose
    parents is an anomalous trichromat (a kind of color blindness) could
    have the three normal cone pigments plus the anomalous pigment in a
    fourth kind of cone.

    I have heard about such. One such tetrachromat woman had a successful
    career as an interior decorator. Apparently her talent was in
    distinguishing extra shades of ... beige.
    IIRC, steel mills once employed men who could see the /exact/ color at
    which the steel should be poured. Most could not see that many shades.
    Their sons often had the same talent.
    Modern steel mills no doubt use some form of equipment to detect when
    the proper temperature is reached.
    Conversely, I have heard of cases of colour-blindness being cured by
    the wearing of specially-designed glasses. I suspect the sufferers
    were not true dichromats, it was just their misfortune to have colour >receptors with peak sensitivities too close together in the spectrum.
    So I think the special glasses were basically filters to magnify the >difference in stimulation between those different receptors.
    --
    "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
    Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
    Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"
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  • From Robert Carnegie@rja.carnegie@gmail.com to rec.arts.sf.written on Sun Feb 22 20:23:39 2026
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    On 18/02/2026 02:54, Cryptoengineer wrote:
    This is cool. It uses cone bleaching and after images to create a
    color in your eyes you've never seen.

    Not SF, but this is the nearest thing to The
    Color Out of Space I've ever encountered.


    https://youtu.be/Q6jyq_RY8i8
    Showing you a color yourCOve never seen before.
    Channel: A Brush with Bekah

    The whole channel is worth browsing. She makes
    paints using classical recipes, and explains
    their history. Want to see actual Uranium
    Yellow, Arsenic Green, Vermilion, ultramarine,
    and Royal Purple?

    Now what's that short story, possibly on Mars,
    where it's determined that a sense which the
    aliens have and humans don't, can be given by
    stimulating a certain part of the brain -
    to appreciate an alien performed art form -
    but the stimulation is destructive.

    Obviously, a human undergoes the process,
    appreciates the art form, and then regrets
    that they now can never experience it again.

    I don't think it's "A Nose For Ecclesiastes".
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  • From ram@ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) to rec.arts.sf.written on Sun Feb 22 20:52:04 2026
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    Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@gmail.com> wrote or quoted:
    Now what's that short story, possibly on Mars,
    where it's determined that a sense which the
    aliens have and humans don't, can be given by
    stimulating a certain part of the brain -
    to appreciate an alien performed art form -
    but the stimulation is destructive.

    Obviously, a human undergoes the process,
    appreciates the art form, and then regrets
    that they now can never experience it again.

    "The Secret Sense" (1941-03) by Isaac Asimov (1920/1992).

    I know it because IIRC it was mentioned in "alt.usage.english",
    maybe even several times. So, I deem it to be a rather famous story.

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  • From Cryptoengineer@petertrei@gmail.com to rec.arts.sf.written on Sun Feb 22 16:27:58 2026
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    On 2/22/2026 3:23 PM, Robert Carnegie wrote:
    On 18/02/2026 02:54, Cryptoengineer wrote:
    This is cool. It uses cone bleaching and after images to create a
    color in your eyes you've never seen.

    Not SF, but this is the nearest thing to The
    Color Out of Space I've ever encountered.


    https://youtu.be/Q6jyq_RY8i8
    Showing you a color yourCOve never seen before.
    Channel: A Brush with Bekah

    The whole channel is worth browsing. She makes
    paints using classical recipes, and explains
    their history. Want to see actual Uranium
    Yellow, Arsenic Green, Vermilion, ultramarine,
    and Royal Purple?

    Now what's that short story, possibly on Mars,
    where it's determined that a sense which the
    aliens have and humans don't, can be given by
    stimulating a certain part of the brain -
    to appreciate an alien performed art form -
    but the stimulation is destructive.

    Obviously, a human undergoes the process,
    appreciates the art form, and then regrets
    that they now can never experience it again.

    I don't think it's "A Nose For Ecclesiastes".

    The Secret Sense, by Asimov.

    pt

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  • From Mike Spencer@mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere to rec.arts.sf.written on Mon Feb 23 21:56:04 2026
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    Tony Nance <tnusenet17@gmail.com> writes:

    On 2/17/26 9:54 PM, Cryptoengineer wrote:
    This is cool. It uses cone bleaching and after images to create a
    color in your eyes you've never seen.

    Not SF, but this is the nearest thing to The
    Color Out of Space I've ever encountered.


    https://youtu.be/Q6jyq_RY8i8
    Showing you a color you've never seen before.
    Channel: A Brush with Bekah


    Interesting - thanks.

    The whole channel is worth browsing. She makes
    paints using classical recipes, and explains
    their history. Want to see actual Uranium
    Yellow, Arsenic Green, Vermilion, ultramarine,
    and Royal Purple?


    In this newsgroup, in this thread, somebody should mention "octarine".

    So I am.

    By the same token,

    There are colors the human eye cannot see. The Damned Thing was
    of such a color.
    --
    Mike Spencer Nova Scotia, Canada
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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to rec.arts.sf.written on Tue Feb 24 02:53:45 2026
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    On 23 Feb 2026 21:56:04 -0400, Mike Spencer wrote:

    There are colors the human eye cannot see.

    I wonder if those colours are *that* different from the ones most of
    us *can* see.

    I ask because I see an analogy between light and sound: in sound,
    there is a perceived similarity between the frequencies of two tones
    if their ratio is an exact power of 2 -- that is, if their musical
    pitches are a whole number of octaves apart.

    If you look at the frequencies of EM radiation covered by the spectrum
    of visible light (about 400-700nm), you will see it is almost a 2:1
    ratio -- in other words, nearly a whole octave.

    If we could see a whole octave of frequencies, I suspect the colours
    at the two ends would look similar somehow. I envision each complete
    octave as basically a circle around the CIE chromaticity diagram. Or
    perhaps the path would be a spiral along a third dimension.
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