• Highlights and Lowlights - October-December 2025

    From Tony Nance@tnusenet17@gmail.com to rec.arts.sf.written on Fri Jan 2 10:53:27 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.written

    Highlights and Lowlights - October-December 2025

    So this post marks five years of doing these Highlights and Lowlights
    posts, and IrCOm going to change things up moving forward. IrCOm not totally sure how yet, and IrCOll probably play it by ear for several months, but
    IrCOm leaning hard toward posting single-book summaries - and only a few
    of those, rather than all the SF I read.

    IrCOm working my way out of a 5-month reading slump, and I think a small-but-significant part of the slump is that IrCOm reading with these summaries in mind, and itrCOs made my reading more evaluative/clinical/critical, and less enjoyable.

    Moving onrCa

    Books are rated using a very primitive rating system:
    rCL+rCY are good, and more rCL+rCY are better
    rCL-rCY are not good, and more rCL-rCY are worse

    IrCOm happy to answer questions about anything here.

    Highlight: The Inheritance - Andrews [Breach Wars #1]

    Lowlight: no lowlights this time, though I will say Cassie Palmer #1 was
    close

    December 2025
    ( ++ 1/2) A Dragon of a Different Color - Aaron [Heartstrikers #4; DFZ #4]
    ( +++ 1/2 ) The Inheritance - Andrews [Breach Wars #1]
    ( +++++ - - ) The Wreck of the River of Stars - Flynn
    ( +++ 1/2) Aristoi - Walter Jon Williams [Re-read Project #4]

    November 2025
    ( ++ 1/2 ) No Good Dragon Goes Unpunished - Aaron [Heartstrikers #3; DFZ #3]

    October 2025
    ( ++ - - )Touch the Dark - Chance [Cassie Palmer #1]
    ( +++ ) Carousel Tides - Sharon Lee [Archers Beach #1]

    Now Reading:
    Long work - Carousel Sun - Sharon Lee [Archers Beach #2]
    Collection - I donrCOt know yet

    ===========================================
    December and November 2025
    ( ++ 1/2) A Dragon of a Different Color - Aaron [Heartstrikers #4; DFZ #4]
    ( ++ 1/2 ) No Good Dragon Goes Unpunished - Aaron [Heartstrikers #3; DFZ #3] Someone here (Ted?) coined the phrase rCLpopcorn bookrCY, and these are
    those. Entertaining, light/slight, fun, and not substantial works in any
    way. The Heartstrikers are a dragon clan based in North America. DFZ
    means Detroit Free Zone. These are #3 and #4 in a 5-book arc that
    follows dragon Justin Heartstriker and his human mage friend/associate
    Marci Novalli through the trials and tribulations of dragon clan
    politics and saving the world from magic evil-doers. DonrCOt expect a lot
    of character development - Justin is the only character who has matured/changed in any way, and not very much at that - BUTrCathese books
    are fun, and IrCOll surely read #5.

    ( +++ 1/2 ) The Inheritance - Andrews [Breach Wars #1]
    Excellent start to a planned duology, and I, for one, hope it goes
    beyond two volumes. Ada Moore became an Assessor (Talent) shortly after
    the Breach Gates opened on modern day Earth. The Breach Gates are
    pockets of other (interstellar) civilizations that are inserted in order
    to overrun the world. They are de facto battle zones with valuable
    resources to be recovered. Shortly after entering a Breach Gate, a
    battle starts to go poorly, and AdarCOs team leaders abandon her and many companions. All but Ada and a battle-trained German Shepherd (rCLBearrCY) perish, and Ada & Bear to find their way out. Ada sees and learns many
    things, and adds some skills along the way, all while trying to find an
    exit back to the gate on Earth. Towards the end, this explicitly
    connects to their Innkeeper series, but thererCOs almost no overlap in
    this book. IrCOm very much looking forward to #2.

    ( +++++ - - ) The Wreck of the River of Stars - Flynn
    This was stunningly well-written, with wonderful insights, turns of
    phrase, and literary references a-plenty (which are easy to ignore if
    one wishes to), BUTrCafriends, this is a tragedy, in the essential sense
    of Greek Tragedy. And I spoil nothing by telling you so, since itrCOs in
    the title, itrCOs on the back cover, and from about page 20 onward (if not before!) it is clear to every reader that things will neither go well
    nor end well. All of the characters are broken in some way, they make
    both heroic and stupid choices, the miscommunications are numerous, and
    the consequences are direrCaand the readers sees almost all of it.
    Absolutely magnificent, and painful to observe.

    ( +++ 1/2) Aristoi - Walter Jon Williams [Re-read Project #4]
    This was excellent (again). I remembered almost none of it from the
    first reading roughly 30 years ago. So many ideas, in such a neat
    setting. Far future advanced humans have nano-level control of their environment, as well as FTL travel. The leaders (and privileged few) are
    the Aristoi, but even the lower levels are rather advanced. Of course,
    utopias seem to always have some people looking to upset the status quo,
    or gain advantage, etc etc. This was brilliantly done by WJW. ItrCOs very well-resolved, but open to a sequel as well.

    October 2025
    ( ++ - - )Touch the Dark - Chance [Cassie Palmer #1]
    Cassie Palmer is a clairvoyant/seer who has no control over what visions
    she receives, or when she receives them. Modern world setting, but with ghosts, vampires, mages, witches, fae, etc. Cassie was raised by a
    powerful vampire who killed her parents in order to gain control of
    Cassie and her powers. After many years, she escapes. As she is nearly re-captured, to her surprise she is rescued by the powerful North
    American Vampire Senate. Due to her powers, she finds herself in the
    middle of several competing agendas, and the book goes from there.

    This is very much a first novelrCainteresting world, interesting
    characters, spotty plotting, and a couple of book-hit-wall moments, one
    of which will have major consequences moving forward. ThererCOs enough
    here that I will try #2 some time.

    ( +++ ) Carousel Tides - Sharon Lee [Archers Beach #1]
    Series starter by half of the Liaden Universe author team. Set in modern Maine, Kate Archer returns to her Maine roots when a cryptic note from
    the grandmother who raised her makes her suspect thererCOs big trouble
    afoot back home. Her suspicions are correct. Gran has gone missing, and
    Kate finds herself in charge of the family carousel, which is part of a
    dying amusement park in a dying resort/tourist town. We soon learn there
    is land/sea/fae magic, Kate is of mixed heritage (human and something magical), and thererCOs a drug lord bullying the town. Adventures follow.

    Now Reading:
    Long work - Carousel Sun - Sharon Lee [Archers Beach #2]
    Collection - I donrCOt know yet

    Happy New Year!
    Tony
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  • From ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan@tednolan to rec.arts.sf.written on Fri Jan 2 21:04:14 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.written

    In article <10j8plo$f9e5$1@dont-email.me>,
    Tony Nance <tnusenet17@gmail.com> wrote:
    Highlights and Lowlights - October-December 2025

    So this post marks five years of doing these Highlights and Lowlights
    posts, and IrCOm going to change things up moving forward. IrCOm not totally >sure how yet, and IrCOll probably play it by ear for several months, but >IrCOm leaning hard toward posting single-book summaries - and only a few
    of those, rather than all the SF I read.

    Whatever you do, I'm sure I will enjoy it, as I always have the current
    format. FWIW, I find sometimes that reviewing a book clarifies my feelings
    on it some, though it also takes mental energy that's not always on tap.


    IrCOm working my way out of a 5-month reading slump, and I think a >small-but-significant part of the slump is that IrCOm reading with these >summaries in mind, and itrCOs made my reading more >evaluative/clinical/critical, and less enjoyable.

    Moving onrCa

    Books are rated using a very primitive rating system:
    rCL+rCY are good, and more rCL+rCY are better
    rCL-rCY are not good, and more rCL-rCY are worse

    IrCOm happy to answer questions about anything here.

    Highlight: The Inheritance - Andrews [Breach Wars #1]

    Lowlight: no lowlights this time, though I will say Cassie Palmer #1 was >close

    December 2025
    ( ++ 1/2) A Dragon of a Different Color - Aaron [Heartstrikers #4; DFZ #4]
    ( +++ 1/2 ) The Inheritance - Andrews [Breach Wars #1]
    ( +++++ - - ) The Wreck of the River of Stars - Flynn
    ( +++ 1/2) Aristoi - Walter Jon Williams [Re-read Project #4]

    November 2025
    ( ++ 1/2 ) No Good Dragon Goes Unpunished - Aaron [Heartstrikers #3; DFZ #3]

    October 2025
    ( ++ - - )Touch the Dark - Chance [Cassie Palmer #1]
    ( +++ ) Carousel Tides - Sharon Lee [Archers Beach #1]

    Now Reading:
    Long work - Carousel Sun - Sharon Lee [Archers Beach #2]
    Collection - I donrCOt know yet

    ===========================================
    December and November 2025
    ( ++ 1/2) A Dragon of a Different Color - Aaron [Heartstrikers #4; DFZ #4]
    ( ++ 1/2 ) No Good Dragon Goes Unpunished - Aaron [Heartstrikers #3; DFZ #3] >Someone here (Ted?) coined the phrase rCLpopcorn bookrCY, and these are >those. Entertaining, light/slight, fun, and not substantial works in any >way. The Heartstrikers are a dragon clan based in North America. DFZ
    means Detroit Free Zone. These are #3 and #4 in a 5-book arc that
    follows dragon Justin Heartstriker and his human mage friend/associate
    Marci Novalli through the trials and tribulations of dragon clan
    politics and saving the world from magic evil-doers. DonrCOt expect a lot
    of character development - Justin is the only character who has >matured/changed in any way, and not very much at that - BUTrCathese books >are fun, and IrCOll surely read #5.


    I think you will find as you go on that other characters get arcs as well, especially two of the sisters.

    ( +++ 1/2 ) The Inheritance - Andrews [Breach Wars #1]
    Excellent start to a planned duology, and I, for one, hope it goes
    beyond two volumes. Ada Moore became an Assessor (Talent) shortly after
    the Breach Gates opened on modern day Earth. The Breach Gates are
    pockets of other (interstellar) civilizations that are inserted in order
    to overrun the world. They are de facto battle zones with valuable
    resources to be recovered. Shortly after entering a Breach Gate, a
    battle starts to go poorly, and AdarCOs team leaders abandon her and many >companions. All but Ada and a battle-trained German Shepherd (rCLBearrCY) >perish, and Ada & Bear to find their way out. Ada sees and learns many >things, and adds some skills along the way, all while trying to find an
    exit back to the gate on Earth. Towards the end, this explicitly
    connects to their Innkeeper series, but thererCOs almost no overlap in
    this book. IrCOm very much looking forward to #2.

    I have bought this one, and am looking forward to getting to it!


    October 2025
    ( ++ - - )Touch the Dark - Chance [Cassie Palmer #1]
    Cassie Palmer is a clairvoyant/seer who has no control over what visions
    she receives, or when she receives them. Modern world setting, but with >ghosts, vampires, mages, witches, fae, etc. Cassie was raised by a
    powerful vampire who killed her parents in order to gain control of
    Cassie and her powers. After many years, she escapes. As she is nearly >re-captured, to her surprise she is rescued by the powerful North
    American Vampire Senate. Due to her powers, she finds herself in the
    middle of several competing agendas, and the book goes from there.

    This is very much a first novelrCainteresting world, interesting
    characters, spotty plotting, and a couple of book-hit-wall moments, one
    of which will have major consequences moving forward. ThererCOs enough
    here that I will try #2 some time.

    I find that Cassie has really grown over the series. There were some
    twists & turns that ran on too long, like the Pritkin-quest, but on the
    whole I have really enjoyed these and the other in-universe books.
    When she's cooking, Chance has a way of doing farce sequences about
    characters you still care about, and without lowering the stakes, which
    is fairly unusual.


    ( +++ ) Carousel Tides - Sharon Lee [Archers Beach #1]
    Series starter by half of the Liaden Universe author team. Set in modern >Maine, Kate Archer returns to her Maine roots when a cryptic note from
    the grandmother who raised her makes her suspect thererCOs big trouble
    afoot back home. Her suspicions are correct. Gran has gone missing, and
    Kate finds herself in charge of the family carousel, which is part of a >dying amusement park in a dying resort/tourist town. We soon learn there
    is land/sea/fae magic, Kate is of mixed heritage (human and something >magical), and thererCOs a drug lord bullying the town. Adventures follow.


    I bought this years ago, and really need to move it up.

    Happy New Year!

    So far so good...
    --
    columbiaclosings.com
    What's not in Columbia anymore..
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  • From Lynn McGuire@lynnmcguire5@gmail.com to rec.arts.sf.written on Fri Jan 2 15:52:30 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.written

    On 1/2/2026 9:53 AM, Tony Nance wrote:
    Highlights and Lowlights - October-December 2025

    So this post marks five years of doing these Highlights and Lowlights
    posts, and IrCOm going to change things up moving forward. IrCOm not totally sure how yet, and IrCOll probably play it by ear for several months, but IrCOm leaning hard toward posting single-book summaries - and only a few
    of those, rather than all the SF I read.

    I am somewhere around 1,300 reviews on Amazon since 2000. I think that
    I put half of those here and a quarter of those on
    https://www.reddit.com/r/printSF/
    .

    Lynn

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  • From Titus G@noone@nowhere.com to rec.arts.sf.written on Sat Jan 3 15:19:52 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.written

    On 3/01/26 04:53, Tony Nance wrote:

    ( +++++ - - ) The Wreck of the River of Stars - Flynn
    This was stunningly well-written, with wonderful insights, turns of
    phrase, and literary references a-plenty (which are easy to ignore if
    one wishes to), BUTrCafriends, this is a tragedy, in the essential sense
    of Greek Tragedy. And I spoil nothing by telling you so, since itrCOs in
    the title, itrCOs on the back cover, and from about page 20 onward (if not before!) it is clear to every reader that things will neither go well
    nor end well. All of the characters are broken in some way, they make
    both heroic and stupid choices, the miscommunications are numerous, and
    the consequences are direrCaand the readers sees almost all of it.
    Absolutely magnificent, and painful to observe.

    I see from Fantastic Fiction that it is number 5 in a series of 5. Did
    you read the first four?
    A very long time ago, I enjoyed "The January Dancer" and I have the
    follow up, "Up Jim River" but would have to reread the complicated
    January Dancer again first and have not done so. More recently, I have
    read and recommend "In the Country of the Blind" though I was not so enthusiastic as you in regard to these. I now have "The Wreck of the
    River of Stars".

    ( +++ 1/2) Aristoi - Walter Jon Williams [Re-read Project #4]
    This was excellent (again). I remembered almost none of it from the
    first reading roughly 30 years ago. So many ideas, in such a neat
    setting. Far future advanced humans have nano-level control of their environment, as well as FTL travel. The leaders (and privileged few) are
    the Aristoi, but even the lower levels are rather advanced. Of course, utopias seem to always have some people looking to upset the status quo,
    or gain advantage, etc etc. This was brilliantly done by WJW. ItrCOs very well-resolved, but open to a sequel as well.

    I read it last year? on your recommendation and wish to read it again
    already.

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  • From Tony Nance@tnusenet17@gmail.com to rec.arts.sf.written on Mon Jan 5 10:32:51 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.written

    On 1/2/26 4:04 PM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
    In article <10j8plo$f9e5$1@dont-email.me>,
    Tony Nance <tnusenet17@gmail.com> wrote:
    Highlights and Lowlights - October-December 2025

    So this post marks five years of doing these Highlights and Lowlights
    posts, and IrCOm going to change things up moving forward. IrCOm not totally >> sure how yet, and IrCOll probably play it by ear for several months, but
    IrCOm leaning hard toward posting single-book summaries - and only a few
    of those, rather than all the SF I read.

    Whatever you do, I'm sure I will enjoy it, as I always have the current format.

    Thank you - I have always enjoyed your RI posts, and I have several
    things to read thanks to them.

    FWIW, I find sometimes that reviewing a book clarifies my feelings
    on it some, though it also takes mental energy that's not always on tap.


    Definitely - both phrases.


    <some snippage>

    December and November 2025
    ( ++ 1/2) A Dragon of a Different Color - Aaron [Heartstrikers #4; DFZ #4] >> ( ++ 1/2 ) No Good Dragon Goes Unpunished - Aaron [Heartstrikers #3; DFZ #3] >> Someone here (Ted?) coined the phrase rCLpopcorn bookrCY, and these are
    those. Entertaining, light/slight, fun, and not substantial works in any
    way. The Heartstrikers are a dragon clan based in North America. DFZ
    means Detroit Free Zone. These are #3 and #4 in a 5-book arc that
    follows dragon Justin Heartstriker and his human mage friend/associate
    Marci Novalli through the trials and tribulations of dragon clan
    politics and saving the world from magic evil-doers. DonrCOt expect a lot
    of character development - Justin is the only character who has
    matured/changed in any way, and not very much at that - BUTrCathese books
    are fun, and IrCOll surely read #5.


    I think you will find as you go on that other characters get arcs as well, especially two of the sisters.


    Good to know, thanks. I am looking forward to see how they go after the
    5 Heartstrikers books.

    <some snippage>

    October 2025
    ( ++ - - )Touch the Dark - Chance [Cassie Palmer #1]
    Cassie Palmer is a clairvoyant/seer who has no control over what visions
    she receives, or when she receives them. Modern world setting, but with
    ghosts, vampires, mages, witches, fae, etc. Cassie was raised by a
    powerful vampire who killed her parents in order to gain control of
    Cassie and her powers. After many years, she escapes. As she is nearly
    re-captured, to her surprise she is rescued by the powerful North
    American Vampire Senate. Due to her powers, she finds herself in the
    middle of several competing agendas, and the book goes from there.

    This is very much a first novelrCainteresting world, interesting
    characters, spotty plotting, and a couple of book-hit-wall moments, one
    of which will have major consequences moving forward. ThererCOs enough
    here that I will try #2 some time.

    I find that Cassie has really grown over the series. There were some
    twists & turns that ran on too long, like the Pritkin-quest, but on the
    whole I have really enjoyed these and the other in-universe books.
    When she's cooking, Chance has a way of doing farce sequences about characters you still care about, and without lowering the stakes, which
    is fairly unusual.

    Good to hear - as I mentioned, there was enough here that I will try the second one, but it's good to know there's reason to expect growth.


    ( +++ ) Carousel Tides - Sharon Lee [Archers Beach #1]
    Series starter by half of the Liaden Universe author team. Set in modern
    Maine, Kate Archer returns to her Maine roots when a cryptic note from
    the grandmother who raised her makes her suspect thererCOs big trouble
    afoot back home. Her suspicions are correct. Gran has gone missing, and
    Kate finds herself in charge of the family carousel, which is part of a
    dying amusement park in a dying resort/tourist town. We soon learn there
    is land/sea/fae magic, Kate is of mixed heritage (human and something
    magical), and thererCOs a drug lord bullying the town. Adventures follow.


    I bought this years ago, and really need to move it up.

    It's good - not Liaden good, but interesting and well done. I just
    finished the second one. I ordered the third one with the second one,
    but when it arrived it was not the third one - it was an autographed
    copy of the first one. Weird.

    Tony
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  • From Tony Nance@tnusenet17@gmail.com to rec.arts.sf.written on Mon Jan 5 10:34:41 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.written

    On 1/2/26 4:52 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    On 1/2/2026 9:53 AM, Tony Nance wrote:
    Highlights and Lowlights - October-December 2025

    So this post marks five years of doing these Highlights and Lowlights
    posts, and IrCOm going to change things up moving forward. IrCOm not
    totally sure how yet, and IrCOll probably play it by ear for several
    months, but IrCOm leaning hard toward posting single-book summaries -
    and only a few of those, rather than all the SF I read.

    I am somewhere around 1,300 reviews on Amazon since 2000.-a I think that
    I put half of those here and a quarter of those on
    -a-a https://www.reddit.com/r/printSF/


    I think I've only done around 300-350 in the last 5 years, but it
    started (and remains) a way to give back to this group, since I've
    gotten so much out of the recommendations and discussions here over the
    last ~30 years.

    Tony
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  • From Tony Nance@tnusenet17@gmail.com to rec.arts.sf.written on Mon Jan 5 10:41:50 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.written

    On 1/2/26 9:19 PM, Titus G wrote:
    On 3/01/26 04:53, Tony Nance wrote:

    ( +++++ - - ) The Wreck of the River of Stars - Flynn
    This was stunningly well-written, with wonderful insights, turns of
    phrase, and literary references a-plenty (which are easy to ignore if
    one wishes to), BUTrCafriends, this is a tragedy, in the essential sense
    of Greek Tragedy. And I spoil nothing by telling you so, since itrCOs in
    the title, itrCOs on the back cover, and from about page 20 onward (if not >> before!) it is clear to every reader that things will neither go well
    nor end well. All of the characters are broken in some way, they make
    both heroic and stupid choices, the miscommunications are numerous, and
    the consequences are direrCaand the readers sees almost all of it.
    Absolutely magnificent, and painful to observe.

    I see from Fantastic Fiction that it is number 5 in a series of 5. Did
    you read the first four?

    I have not. In fact, I didn't know this one was part of a series. I'm wondering if it's actually a series, or a group of novels in the same universe.

    A very long time ago, I enjoyed "The January Dancer" and I have the
    follow up, "Up Jim River" but would have to reread the complicated
    January Dancer again first and have not done so. More recently, I have
    read and recommend "In the Country of the Blind" though I was not so enthusiastic as you in regard to these. I now have "The Wreck of the
    River of Stars".

    "Wreck" is the only book I've read by Flynn. I may check out another
    some day - it was great writing, but I'm not big on tragedy (Greek or otherwise).

    Tony



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  • From jdnicoll@jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) to rec.arts.sf.written on Mon Jan 5 16:35:04 2026
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    In article <10jgm3u$2si45$3@nntp.eternal-september.org>,
    Tony Nance <tnusenet17@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 1/2/26 9:19 PM, Titus G wrote:
    On 3/01/26 04:53, Tony Nance wrote:

    ( +++++ - - ) The Wreck of the River of Stars - Flynn
    This was stunningly well-written, with wonderful insights, turns of
    phrase, and literary references a-plenty (which are easy to ignore if
    one wishes to), BUTrCafriends, this is a tragedy, in the essential sense >>> of Greek Tragedy. And I spoil nothing by telling you so, since itrCOs in >>> the title, itrCOs on the back cover, and from about page 20 onward (if not >>> before!) it is clear to every reader that things will neither go well
    nor end well. All of the characters are broken in some way, they make
    both heroic and stupid choices, the miscommunications are numerous, and
    the consequences are direrCaand the readers sees almost all of it.
    Absolutely magnificent, and painful to observe.

    I see from Fantastic Fiction that it is number 5 in a series of 5. Did
    you read the first four?

    I have not. In fact, I didn't know this one was part of a series. I'm >wondering if it's actually a series, or a group of novels in the same >universe.

    The second, at most. FF seems to think it's in the same universe as Flynn's Firestar books. However, the ISFDB, SFE, and Wikipedia do not.

    (I am setting for checking online sources because I found the Firestar
    books literally unreadable, and only got through the followup January
    Dancer series because I was paid)
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  • From Paul S Person@psperson@old.netcom.invalid to rec.arts.sf.written on Mon Jan 5 08:44:28 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.written

    On Mon, 5 Jan 2026 10:41:50 -0500, Tony Nance <tnusenet17@gmail.com>
    wrote:
    On 1/2/26 9:19 PM, Titus G wrote:
    <snippo -- book is /The Wreck of The River of Stars/ by Michael Flynn>
    I see from Fantastic Fiction that it is number 5 in a series of 5. Did
    you read the first four?

    I have not. In fact, I didn't know this one was part of a series. I'm >wondering if it's actually a series, or a group of novels in the same >universe.
    https://www.bookseriesinorder.com/michael-flynn/ gives such a
    collection.
    The Amazon hardcover for book 2 claims on the cover shown on Amazon to
    be the sequel to book 1. The description says nothing about this
    possibility.
    Books 3 and 4 are said on the covers shown on Amazon to be "the new
    novel" and "the Triumphant Conclusion" of the Future-History epic of
    the space age".
    The book-in-question does not claim, on the cover shown on Amazon, to
    be related to anything. It's description describes Flynn by "[h]is
    major work was the Firestar sequence, a four-book future history". It
    itself is described as a "sweeping stand-alone epic of the spaceways".
    Doesn't look like an official series to me. But I haven't read any of
    them.
    I did add him to my list of BooksWanted. Originally a simple text file
    that I printed out from time to time to use when purchasing books at
    the store (mostly to avoid getting duplicates of what I already had by restricting purchases of the listed authors to those not yet crossed
    out), it has evolved into an ODT file used to guide my Kindle reading.
    And supplemented by an entire subdirectory of ODS files organizing the
    works of each author I feel needs that treatment (those with multiple
    series, and those were I need to compare short stories with the
    contents of short story collections to determine an set of collections
    with minimal overlap).
    So I should get to him eventually.
    --
    "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
    Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
    Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"
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  • From Robert Woodward@robertaw@drizzle.com to rec.arts.sf.written on Mon Jan 5 10:25:37 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.written

    In article <10jgp7o$ju6$1@reader2.panix.com>,
    jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) wrote:

    In article <10jgm3u$2si45$3@nntp.eternal-september.org>,
    Tony Nance <tnusenet17@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 1/2/26 9:19 PM, Titus G wrote:
    On 3/01/26 04:53, Tony Nance wrote:

    ( +++++ - - ) The Wreck of the River of Stars - Flynn
    This was stunningly well-written, with wonderful insights, turns of
    phrase, and literary references a-plenty (which are easy to ignore if
    one wishes to), BUTrCafriends, this is a tragedy, in the essential sense >>> of Greek Tragedy. And I spoil nothing by telling you so, since itrCOs in >>> the title, itrCOs on the back cover, and from about page 20 onward (if not
    before!) it is clear to every reader that things will neither go well
    nor end well. All of the characters are broken in some way, they make
    both heroic and stupid choices, the miscommunications are numerous, and >>> the consequences are direrCaand the readers sees almost all of it.
    Absolutely magnificent, and painful to observe.

    I see from Fantastic Fiction that it is number 5 in a series of 5. Did
    you read the first four?

    I have not. In fact, I didn't know this one was part of a series. I'm >wondering if it's actually a series, or a group of novels in the same >universe.

    The second, at most. FF seems to think it's in the same universe as Flynn's Firestar books. However, the ISFDB, SFE, and Wikipedia do not.

    Its a group. Jacinta Rosario appears in at least 2 of the _Firestar_
    series. She (or at least Port Rosario on Mars) is mentioned in _The
    Wreck of the River of Stars_ and the _January Dancer_ sequence (which considering how much that is in the future is rather extraordinary).
    --
    "We have advanced to new and surprising levels of bafflement."
    Imperial Auditor Miles Vorkosigan describes progress in _Komarr_. i-----------------------------------------------------
    Robert Woodward robertaw@drizzle.com
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  • From Tony Nance@tnusenet17@gmail.com to rec.arts.sf.written on Mon Jan 5 19:49:48 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.written

    On 1/5/26 11:35 AM, James Nicoll wrote:
    In article <10jgm3u$2si45$3@nntp.eternal-september.org>,
    Tony Nance <tnusenet17@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 1/2/26 9:19 PM, Titus G wrote:
    On 3/01/26 04:53, Tony Nance wrote:

    ( +++++ - - ) The Wreck of the River of Stars - Flynn
    This was stunningly well-written, with wonderful insights, turns of
    phrase, and literary references a-plenty (which are easy to ignore if
    one wishes to), BUTrCafriends, this is a tragedy, in the essential sense >>>> of Greek Tragedy. And I spoil nothing by telling you so, since itrCOs in >>>> the title, itrCOs on the back cover, and from about page 20 onward (if not >>>> before!) it is clear to every reader that things will neither go well
    nor end well. All of the characters are broken in some way, they make
    both heroic and stupid choices, the miscommunications are numerous, and >>>> the consequences are direrCaand the readers sees almost all of it.
    Absolutely magnificent, and painful to observe.

    I see from Fantastic Fiction that it is number 5 in a series of 5. Did
    you read the first four?

    I have not. In fact, I didn't know this one was part of a series. I'm
    wondering if it's actually a series, or a group of novels in the same
    universe.

    The second, at most. FF seems to think it's in the same universe as Flynn's Firestar books. However, the ISFDB, SFE, and Wikipedia do not.


    Thank you.

    (I am setting for checking online sources because I found the Firestar
    books literally unreadable, and only got through the followup January
    Dancer series because I was paid)



    That rings a bell, and may have influenced why I picked up Wreck, and
    only Wreck.

    Tony
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  • From Tony Nance@tnusenet17@gmail.com to rec.arts.sf.written on Mon Jan 5 19:57:13 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.written

    On 1/5/26 11:44 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
    On Mon, 5 Jan 2026 10:41:50 -0500, Tony Nance <tnusenet17@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On 1/2/26 9:19 PM, Titus G wrote:

    <snippo -- book is /The Wreck of The River of Stars/ by Michael Flynn>

    I see from Fantastic Fiction that it is number 5 in a series of 5. Did
    you read the first four?

    I have not. In fact, I didn't know this one was part of a series. I'm
    wondering if it's actually a series, or a group of novels in the same
    universe.

    https://www.bookseriesinorder.com/michael-flynn/ gives such a
    collection.


    Interesting! Much of the verbiage comes straight from Wikipedia, but
    Wikipedia doesn't think Wreck is #5 in a series.[1]

    The Amazon hardcover for book 2 claims on the cover shown on Amazon to
    be the sequel to book 1. The description says nothing about this
    possibility.

    Books 3 and 4 are said on the covers shown on Amazon to be "the new
    novel" and "the Triumphant Conclusion" of the Future-History epic of
    the space age".

    The book-in-question does not claim, on the cover shown on Amazon, to
    be related to anything. It's description describes Flynn by "[h]is
    major work was the Firestar sequence, a four-book future history". It
    itself is described as a "sweeping stand-alone epic of the spaceways".

    Doesn't look like an official series to me. But I haven't read any of
    them.


    Interesting - thanks for the info.
    - Tony
    [1] In fact, Wikipedia doesn't seem to know "The Wreck..." exists.


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  • From Paul S Person@psperson@old.netcom.invalid to rec.arts.sf.written on Tue Jan 6 08:46:21 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.written

    On Mon, 5 Jan 2026 19:57:13 -0500, Tony Nance <tnusenet17@gmail.com>
    wrote:
    On 1/5/26 11:44 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
    On Mon, 5 Jan 2026 10:41:50 -0500, Tony Nance <tnusenet17@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On 1/2/26 9:19 PM, Titus G wrote:

    <snippo -- book is /The Wreck of The River of Stars/ by Michael Flynn>

    I see from Fantastic Fiction that it is number 5 in a series of 5. Did >>>> you read the first four?

    I have not. In fact, I didn't know this one was part of a series. I'm
    wondering if it's actually a series, or a group of novels in the same
    universe.

    https://www.bookseriesinorder.com/michael-flynn/ gives such a
    collection.


    Interesting! Much of the verbiage comes straight from Wikipedia, but >Wikipedia doesn't think Wreck is #5 in a series.[1]

    The Amazon hardcover for book 2 claims on the cover shown on Amazon to
    be the sequel to book 1. The description says nothing about this
    possibility.

    Books 3 and 4 are said on the covers shown on Amazon to be "the new
    novel" and "the Triumphant Conclusion" of the Future-History epic of
    the space age".

    The book-in-question does not claim, on the cover shown on Amazon, to
    be related to anything. It's description describes Flynn by "[h]is
    major work was the Firestar sequence, a four-book future history". It
    itself is described as a "sweeping stand-alone epic of the spaceways".

    Doesn't look like an official series to me. But I haven't read any of
    them.


    Interesting - thanks for the info.
    - Tony
    [1] In fact, Wikipedia doesn't seem to know "The Wreck..." exists.
    If you are referring to <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Flynn_bibliography>, it /does/
    note that the list is incomplete.
    Which is why I tried
    <https://www.bookseriesinorder.com/michael-flynn>.
    --
    "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
    Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
    Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"
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