• (ReacTor) Five Books About Conversing With Animals

    From jdnicoll@jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) to rec.arts.sf.written on Tue Dec 16 14:16:13 2025
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    Five Books About Conversing With Animals

    How great would it be to talk with animals, through magic or technology or whatever?

    https://reactormag.com/five-books-about-conversing-with-animals/
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  • From ram@ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) to rec.arts.sf.written on Tue Dec 16 19:59:23 2025
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    jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) wrote or quoted:
    How great would it be to talk with animals, through magic or technology or >whatever?

    The kzin already are able to speak to animals.

    In the real world, researchers created a "thought dictionary"
    to decode a rat's brain signals. "Volitional activation of remote
    place representations with a hippocampal brainrComachine interface"
    - Chongxi Lai, Shinsuke Tanaka, Timothy D. Harris, Albert K.
    Lee, Lai et al., Science 382, 566rCo573 (2023), 3 November 2023.

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  • From Lynn McGuire@lynnmcguire5@gmail.com to rec.arts.sf.written on Tue Dec 16 18:28:01 2025
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    On 12/16/2025 1:16 PM, James Nicoll wrote:
    Five Books About Conversing With Animals

    How great would it be to talk with animals, through magic or technology or whatever?

    https://reactormag.com/five-books-about-conversing-with-animals/

    I have read 2 of the 5, "The Jungle Book" by Rudyard Kipling and "DaybreakrCo2250 A.D." by Andre Norton. Both awesome books.

    The are many, many books to add to this list, especially if one includes
    the shape changing humans books.
    1. "Ariel" by Steven R. Boyett
    https://www.amazon.com/dp/0441017940
    2. "The Zero Stone" by Andre Norton
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0451451627
    3. "Dragonflight: Volume 1 in the Dragonriders of Pern" by Anne McCaffrey
    https://www.amazon.com/dp/0345484266
    4. "Heirs of Empire" by David Weber
    https://www.amazon.com/Heirs-Empire-Dahak-David-1996-03-01/dp/B01FIXYQ2G
    5. "Vic And Blood: The Continuing Adventures Of A Boy And His Dog" by
    Harlan Ellison
    https://www.amazon.com/Vic-Blood-Continuing-Adventures-Boy/dp/0743459032

    Lynn

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  • From Chris Thompson@the_thompsons@earthlink.net to rec.arts.sf.written on Tue Dec 16 20:57:29 2025
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    James Nicoll wrote:
    Five Books About Conversing With Animals

    How great would it be to talk with animals, through magic or technology or whatever?

    https://reactormag.com/five-books-about-conversing-with-animals/


    In Ryk Spoor's _Spheres of Influence_ (and the rest of the series) the
    Monkey King's ability to converse with Arena animals is a pretty
    important clue concerning the abilities of Hyperions in the Arena.

    It also saves Our Heroes' bacon in a space battle.

    Chris

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  • From ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan@tednolan to rec.arts.sf.written on Wed Dec 17 05:12:28 2025
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    In article <10hstek$359ms$1@dont-email.me>,
    Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 12/16/2025 1:16 PM, James Nicoll wrote:
    Five Books About Conversing With Animals

    How great would it be to talk with animals, through magic or technology or >> whatever?

    https://reactormag.com/five-books-about-conversing-with-animals/

    I have read 2 of the 5, "The Jungle Book" by Rudyard Kipling and >"DaybreakrCo2250 A.D." by Andre Norton. Both awesome books.

    The are many, many books to add to this list, especially if one includes
    the shape changing humans books.
    1. "Ariel" by Steven R. Boyett
    https://www.amazon.com/dp/0441017940
    2. "The Zero Stone" by Andre Norton
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0451451627
    3. "Dragonflight: Volume 1 in the Dragonriders of Pern" by Anne McCaffrey
    https://www.amazon.com/dp/0345484266
    4. "Heirs of Empire" by David Weber
    https://www.amazon.com/Heirs-Empire-Dahak-David-1996-03-01/dp/B01FIXYQ2G
    5. "Vic And Blood: The Continuing Adventures Of A Boy And His Dog" by
    Harlan Ellison
    https://www.amazon.com/Vic-Blood-Continuing-Adventures-Boy/dp/0743459032

    Lynn


    Let's not forget the obvious:

    https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/501

    and maybe take an Animal Degree...
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  • From Ignatios Souvatzis@u502sou@bnhb484.de to rec.arts.sf.written on Wed Dec 17 10:37:21 2025
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    James Nicoll wrote:
    Five Books About Conversing With Animals

    How great would it be to talk with animals, through magic or technology or whatever?

    https://reactormag.com/five-books-about-conversing-with-animals/

    ReCaptcha hates me today. (Technically - the web page can't connect.) so here:

    I've read some Dr. Doolittle.

    More examples:

    * Urmel aus dem Eis and Followups by Max Kruse (don't know if
    available translated to English). Dr. forgotshisname is living
    on a small island and taught some animals human language (German)
    but each of them has a characteristic mistake they make.

    * Harry Potter (at least him and a few others are Parseltongues
    (speak with snakes).

    * Pooh not only talks to Piglet, Kanga, Tigger and Eeyore, but
    also to Christopher Robin

    * Maybe Calvin and Hobbes.

    * If we allow telepathy, the Dragon stuff by Anne McCaffrey,
    (and of course Eragon by Paolini who copied the concept from her
    and a few motives from two or three other books/films that I
    immediately recognized back then, but this is a long-written
    rant.)

    -is
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  • From David Dalton@dalton@nfld.com to rec.arts.sf.written on Fri Dec 19 02:50:27 2025
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    On Dec 16, 2025, James Nicoll wrote
    (in article <10hsb5t$m9b$1@panix2.panix.com>):

    Five Books About Conversing With Animals

    How great would it be to talk with animals, through magic or technology or whatever?

    https://reactormag.com/five-books-about-conversing-with-animals/

    I have some ideas about possibly decoding cetacean acoustics
    using geophysical signal processing techniques.

    Also, in my current (I will try again tomorrow night at the
    exact time of new/dark moon) global new age onset
    magickal workings, there will be sudden magickal
    physical evolution, including of current adults.

    Who and what will evolve? Currently pathogenic viruses,
    currently pathogenic bacteria, homo sapiens+720 aliens,
    cetaceans, non-human simians, dogs, cats, non-simian
    primates, elephants, the rest of mammals, corvids,
    psittacines, octopi, and
    Chinese dragons/sea serpents/lake serpents (if they exist).

    Of relevance to this thread, all of the multi-cellular
    DNA-based species that will evolve will get two
    language genes---one currently held by
    homo sapiens+720 aliens and one currently held
    by cetaceans.

    Of course if this fails again as usual, you can look
    at this as speculative fiction. :-)
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  • From David Dalton@dalton@nfld.com to rec.arts.sf.written on Fri Dec 19 03:05:46 2025
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    On Dec 19, 2025, David Dalton wrote
    (in article<0001HW.2EF5262B01524BEA70000F04838F@news.eternal-september.org>):

    On Dec 16, 2025, James Nicoll wrote
    (in article <10hsb5t$m9b$1@panix2.panix.com>):

    Five Books About Conversing With Animals

    How great would it be to talk with animals, through magic or technology or whatever?

    https://reactormag.com/five-books-about-conversing-with-animals/

    I have some ideas about possibly decoding cetacean acoustics
    using geophysical signal processing techniques.

    Also, in my current (I will try again tomorrow night at the
    exact time of new/dark moon) global new age onset
    magickal workings, there will be sudden magickal
    physical evolution, including of current adults.

    Who and what will evolve? Currently pathogenic viruses,
    currently pathogenic bacteria, homo sapiens+720 aliens,
    cetaceans, non-human simians, dogs, cats, non-simian
    primates, elephants, the rest of mammals, corvids,
    psittacines, octopi, and
    Chinese dragons/sea serpents/lake serpents (if they exist).

    oops, I forgot giant squid and colossal squid

    Of relevance to this thread, all of the multi-cellular
    DNA-based species that will evolve will get two
    language genes---one currently held by
    homo sapiens+720 aliens and one currently held
    by cetaceans.

    Of course if this fails again as usual, you can look
    at this as speculative fiction. :-)
    --
    https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page) rCLEarly morning, jubilators, up to no good, instigators... Sons of long forgotten races, that the darkest night embracesrCY (Ron Hynes & D.OrCOD)

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