• The government shutdown

    From Keith F. Lynch@kfl@KeithLynch.net to rec.arts.sf.fandom on Tue Oct 7 17:54:37 2025
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    The federal government has been shut down for about a week. Since it
    shut down, I've been getting ten to twenty scam calls each day, even
    though I've been on the federal do-not-call list since it was founded.

    But I was getting the same number of calls before the shutdown, and
    I'm not the victim of any other federal crimes, so I don't see any
    harm in continuing the shutdown.

    Indeed, if the shutdown means that the laws are not being enforced,
    maybe one of the victims annoyed by all these unpunished scam calls
    will hunt down the scammers and kill them. And won't get punished
    for it.

    Certainly if I'm on their jury I will vote "not guilty."
    Telemarketers have voluntarily withdrawn from the human race and are
    more akin to mosquitoes, roaches, or other vermin. Removing them
    makes the world a better place. And if the criminal justice system
    is unwilling or unable to take action, the people as a whole have to
    step in.

    Trump has responded to Iranian uranium enrichment by bombing from the
    air. He has also responded to ships on the high seas that he suspects
    might be smuggling drugs to the US by bombing from the air. Many of
    the telephone scammers are obviously in India. I suggest that bombing
    those call centers from the air would be equally appropriate. If
    India can't prevent its citizens from repeatedly harassing Americans,
    high explosives, delivered by B2 stealth bombers, are always a solution.
    I might as well get *some* benefit from the US military.

    Another approach was inspired by the Israelis, who installed high
    explosives in pagers and cell phones. Perhaps explosives should be
    installed in all phones worldwide, and anyone who gets an unwanted
    call can press the star key. Each phone will keep count of how many
    calls made from that phone resulted in the called person pressing the
    star key. If that total ever reaches 100 in a single month, the
    calling phone will instantly detonate, making the world a slightly
    better place. And deterring other would-be telemarketers and
    telephone harassers.
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    Please see http://keithlynch.net/email.html before emailing me.
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  • From Evelyn C. Leeper@evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com to rec.arts.sf.fandom on Tue Oct 7 17:35:32 2025
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    On 10/7/25 1:54 PM, Keith F. Lynch wrote:
    The federal government has been shut down for about a week. Since it
    shut down, I've been getting ten to twenty scam calls each day, even
    though I've been on the federal do-not-call list since it was founded.

    But I was getting the same number of calls before the shutdown, and
    I'm not the victim of any other federal crimes, so I don't see any
    harm in continuing the shutdown.

    Indeed, if the shutdown means that the laws are not being enforced,
    maybe one of the victims annoyed by all these unpunished scam calls
    will hunt down the scammers and kill them. And won't get punished
    for it.

    Murder is a state crime, and the last I checked neither Virginia nor any
    other state had shut down.

    I will not respond to the reminder of your posting.
    --
    Evelyn C. Leeper, http://leepers.us/evelyn
    In the words of Cato, "Fasciculi de Epstein emitti debent."
    In my words, "Invoke the 25th in 25."
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  • From WolfFan@akwolffan@zoho.com to rec.arts.sf.fandom on Wed Oct 8 16:25:46 2025
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    On Oct 7, 2025, Keith F. Lynch wrote
    (in article <10c3k4t$pod$1@reader2.panix.com>):

    The federal government has been shut down for about a week. Since it
    shut down, I've been getting ten to twenty scam calls each day, even
    though I've been on the federal do-not-call list since it was founded.

    But I was getting the same number of calls before the shutdown, and
    I'm not the victim of any other federal crimes, so I don't see any
    harm in continuing the shutdown.

    Indeed, if the shutdown means that the laws are not being enforced,
    maybe one of the victims annoyed by all these unpunished scam calls
    will hunt down the scammers and kill them. And won't get punished
    for it.

    Certainly if I'm on their jury I will vote "not guilty."
    Telemarketers have voluntarily withdrawn from the human race and are
    more akin to mosquitoes, roaches, or other vermin. Removing them
    makes the world a better place. And if the criminal justice system
    is unwilling or unable to take action, the people as a whole have to
    step in.

    Trump has responded to Iranian uranium enrichment by bombing from the
    air. He has also responded to ships on the high seas that he suspects
    might be smuggling drugs to the US by bombing from the air. Many of
    the telephone scammers are obviously in India. I suggest that bombing
    those call centers from the air would be equally appropriate. If
    India can't prevent its citizens from repeatedly harassing Americans,
    high explosives, delivered by B2 stealth bombers, are always a solution.
    I might as well get *some* benefit from the US military.

    Another approach was inspired by the Israelis, who installed high
    explosives in pagers and cell phones. Perhaps explosives should be
    installed in all phones worldwide, and anyone who gets an unwanted
    call can press the star key. Each phone will keep count of how many
    calls made from that phone resulted in the called person pressing the
    star key. If that total ever reaches 100 in a single month, the
    calling phone will instantly detonate, making the world a slightly
    better place. And deterring other would-be telemarketers and
    telephone harassers.

    Keith seems to have gone off his meds again. if thererCOs someone local to him, perhaps you might want to do a drive by and see him. I suspect that he might react badly to having cops do a rCywelfare checkrCO.

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  • From Joy Beeson@jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid to rec.arts.sf.fandom on Mon Oct 13 21:24:15 2025
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    In eighty-four years, I've seen the federal government throw
    many tantrums, but it has never once shut down.

    On one memorable occasion, it posted guards around a park
    that had no fence or gate, saying there was no budget for
    allowing people to walk across it. Unfortunately, I don't
    remember enough details that I could look up the when and
    where.
    --
    Joy Beeson
    joy beeson at centurylink dot net
    http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/

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  • From djheydt@djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) to rec.arts.sf.fandom on Tue Oct 14 02:05:36 2025
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    In article <e59rekdjp1g8p9e2hvr78je5uvloqk77r1@4ax.com>,
    Joy Beeson <jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid> wrote:

    In eighty-four years, I've seen the federal government throw
    many tantrums, but it has never once shut down.

    On one memorable occasion, it posted guards around a park
    that had no fence or gate, saying there was no budget for
    allowing people to walk across it. Unfortunately, I don't
    remember enough details that I could look up the when and
    where.

    [Hal Heydt]
    Per Wikipedia...
    1980, 1 day
    1981, 1 day
    1990, 3 days
    1995 (Nov), 5 days
    1995-96, 21 days
    2013, 16 days
    2018 (Jan), 3 days
    2018-19, 35 days
    2025, 13 days and counting.

    All of those were well within the last 84 years.
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  • From Keith F. Lynch@kfl@KeithLynch.net to rec.arts.sf.fandom on Tue Oct 14 04:04:17 2025
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    Joy Beeson <jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid> wrote:
    In eighty-four years, I've seen the federal government throw many
    tantrums, but it has never once shut down.

    As Hal posted, it has shut down several times, in the same sense as it
    is shut down now, i.e. not completely.

    On one memorable occasion, it posted guards around a park that had
    no fence or gate, saying there was no budget for allowing people to
    walk across it. Unfortunately, I don't remember enough details that
    I could look up the when and where.

    You're probably remembering the closure of the WWII memorial. There
    weren't any guards, but a fence had been put up around it to keep
    people out. WWII vets, aided by members of congress, pulled the fence
    down. Police were present, but didn't dare interfere. That was on
    October 1, 2013. See https://apnews.com/article/33e767021bf24878b531ea95d5612cbe
    --
    Keith F. Lynch - http://keithlynch.net/
    Please see http://keithlynch.net/email.html before emailing me.
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  • From Joy Beeson@jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid to rec.arts.sf.fandom on Tue Oct 14 22:43:06 2025
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    On Tue, 7 Oct 2025 17:54:37 -0000 (UTC), "Keith F. Lynch"
    <kfl@KeithLynch.net> wrote:

    maybe one of the victims annoyed by all these unpunished scam calls
    will hunt down the scammers and kill them.

    The people who do the actual calling are slaves.
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