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    06/20/25 -- Vol. 43, No. 51, Whole Number 2385

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    Topics:
    Fireworks at Bell Labs Holmdel (NJ) (comments
    by Evelyn C. Leeper)
    METROPOLIS (film comments by Evelyn C. Leeper)
    METROPOLIS (film comments by Mark R. Leeper)
    METROPOLIS by Thea Von Harbou (book review
    by Mark R. Leeper)
    Which Word Doesn't Belong? (comments by Evelyn C. Leeper)
    "Adrift In Currents Clean and Clear" by Seanan McGuire
    (audio book review by Joe Karpierz)
    SOONISH: TEN EMERGING TECHNOLOGIES THAT'LL IMPROVE
    AND/OR RUIN EVERYTHING and A CITY ON MARS
    by Dr. Kelly Weinersmith and Zack Weinersmith
    (book reviews by Paul S. R. Chisholm)
    A CITY ON MARS: CAN WE SETTLE SPACE, SHOULD WE SETTLE
    SPACE, AND HAVE WE REALLY THOUGHT THIS THROUGH?
    by Dr. Kelly Weinersmith and Zack Weinersmith
    (book review by Dale Skran)
    The One Ring (letters of comment by Robert Mitchell
    and Steve Coltrin)
    Leg Men (letter of comment by Hal Heydt)
    This Week's Reading (JOURNEY TO THE CENTER OF THE EARTH)
    (book comments by Evelyn C. Leeper)

    ===================================================================

    TOPIC: Fireworks at Bell Labs Holmdel (NJ) (comments by Evelyn
    C. Leeper)

    For those in central NJ, Bell Works (previously Bell Labs Holmdel,
    and now a famous television series setting) will have their annual
    fireworks display on June 25. For more details, see <https://bell.works/events/bell-works-annual-fireworks> [-ecl]

    ===================================================================

    TOPIC: METROPOLIS (film comments by Evelyn C. Leeper)

    Our movie-and-book group watched METROPOLIS (1927) this month, and
    read (or tried to read) METROPOLIS by Thea Von Harbou. Whether it
    was Von Harbou's writing, or the translation, I found the book
    over-flowery and then some (and I was not the only one).

    The film, however, is a classic, and rates a full column rather
    than just a mini-review. Yes, it is at times over the top, but
    somehow that works better in films. My first comment is that, at
    the time, no on had seen anything like it. Huge sets, vast cast,
    startling special effects--director Fritz Lang pulled out all the
    stops. The catacombs include not just a hidden church, but
    hundreds of recesses containing the bones of the dead. (There is
    a striking mid-shot of Rotwang threatening the true Maria in the
    catacombs where you see him with a skull from the wall behind on
    either side of his head.

    And everyone followed him, or at least showed his influence. The
    mad scientist in THE BLACK CAT has gone one better than Rotwang
    and not just had a bust of his dead wife, but had preserved her in
    a glass case. Both Rotwang's wife and Poelzig's were named Hel.
    Kenneth Strickfadden surely patterned the labs he designed for
    FRANKENSTEIN and THE BRIDE OF FRANKENSTEIN on Rotwang's, but on an
    even larger scale.

    Did the hallucinogenic scene of the multiple eyes apparently
    against a curtain inspire Salvador Dali's similar scene in
    SPELLBOUND?

    Interestingly, in OCTOBER SKY one sees a "reverse influence" (that
    is, where Lang got his ideas from): the scenes of the coal miners
    descending by elevator into the mines are based on real life, and
    the same real life probably inspired Lang's depiction of his
    workers in the elevators.

    Was the creation of the false Maria the first example of identity
    theft?

    The main character, Freder, undergoes an epiphany not unlike that
    of the Buddha: having been raised in sheltered luxury, he is
    confronted by poor and starving children, and becomes converted to
    a more egalitarian nature.

    There are things that strike us differently now than they did the
    audience then. "Yoshiwara" and its entertainers seem to be
    representative of the "Orientalism" that was so common in the
    first decades of the twentieth century.

    Obviously, there is a lot more that could be said, but the best
    thing is or you to see this film for yourself. There are a
    variety of public domain versions floating around, of inferior
    quality and truncated length. (This is a story in itself.) You
    should look for either the 2001 restoration (124 minutes) or, even
    better, the 2010 restoration (148 minutes). [-ecl]

    ===================================================================

    TOPIC: METROPOLIS (film comments by Mark R. Leeper)

    And here are Mark's comments from 1986, possibly written for a
    science fiction convention:

    My name is Mark Leeper and I am interested in film and I am
    interested in science fiction and METROPOLIS is both, though
    perhaps not of equal quality. It has been a common verdict on
    this film that it is a towering piece of cinema visually, but that
    the story is flawed. The year of its release Luis Bunuel called
    it "a very good film and a very bad film glued together at the
    stomach." It's director, Fritz Lang, claimed never to have liked
    the film, saying it had a weak ending.

    Nevertheless, when it was released in Germany--60 years ago next
    month--nothing like it had ever been seen before. By the time it
    opened at the Rialto in New York, two months later, word-of-mouth
    had spread so fast that a reported 10,000 people turned up to see
    its at its United States premiere.

    Films have been inspired by songs and by paintings; METROPOLIS was
    inspired by a skyline. By 1924, Lang had made a number of
    successful films including DESTINY, DR. MABUSE--THE GAMBLER, and
    the popular SIEGFRIED and KRIMHELD'S REVENGE. Invited to visit
    studios in the United States, he took a trans-Atlantic cruise.
    Upon entering New York harbor he was struck by a skyline more
    awesome than any he had ever seen in Europe. Inspired by this
    sight and very probably influenced by H. G. Wells's three novels
    of future class separation--WHEN THE SLEEPER WAKES, A STORY OF
    DAYS TO COME, and THE TIME MACHINE--Lang and his wife (Thea Von
    Harbou) began writing notes that Von Harbou forged first into a
    novel and then into a screenplay which Lang filmed. The novel's
    heavy religious symbolism was toned down for the film but in
    neither the novel nor the film are Joh Frederson's reasons for
    attempting to destroy his own city ever adequately explained.

    In spite of plot problems, the film is a spectacle such as has
    been rarely seen before or since. Over 36,000 people were brought
    in to appear in the film. Many of the sets were built full-sized,
    though state-of-the-art model work was also employed. The
    production used so much electricity that for blocks around the
    studio residents' lights dimmed whenever Lang was shooting. The
    final film was 17 reels--about three hours--long, though later
    re-edited many times. About an hour of the footage may well be
    lost forever. As I said, January 10th will mark the 60th
    anniversary of the release of METROPOLIS. Two months later and
    considerably shorter, it premiered at the Rialto to crowds that
    would make George Lucas jealous. Still, the film never re-couped
    its enormous investment.

    Lang followed METROPOLIS with THE WOMAN IN THE MOON (FRAU IM
    MOND)--a film surprisingly accurate about many aspects of
    rocket-powered spaceflight. It is said that to increase the
    dramatic effect, Lang invented the concept of counting down to
    zero. Lang's M is probably the most respected of all his films
    and introduced to the screen Peter Lorre (as Hans Beckert, the
    child-killer). In 1933 TESTAMENT OF DR. MABUSE continued the
    adventures of the German "Napoleon of Crime." The film was,
    however, banned by the Nazis for reasons that still seem rather
    abstract.

    Lang himself was summoned to Joseph Goebbels's office for what
    Lang assumed was to be a reprimand. Instead Goebbels explained
    that he and Der Fuhrer had seen METROPOLIS together in a small
    German town. Both had been very impressed and were very anxious
    to give Lang a position of importance in the Nazi film industry.
    Lang promised to consider the offer, returned home, packed a few
    belongings, and fled to France that same day. It would have been
    only a matter of time before it was discovered that Lang's mother
    was Jewish.

    Von Harbou remained behind and did work in the Nazi film industry.
    After escaping to France, Lang came to the United States. He
    made many quality films here but he never again achieved the
    stature he had had in Germany. [-mrl]

    [Note: At some point after Mark wrote this, research showed that
    Lang's story of leaving the same night was not actually true. But
    it made a great story. -ecl]

    ===================================================================

    TOPIC: METROPOLIS by Thea Von Harbou (book review by Mark
    R. Leeper)

    And finally, here is Mark's book review of METROPOLIS, reprinted
    from the 10/09/85 issue of the MT VOID:

    How long have I been intending to read Von Harbou's novel on which
    the classic film was based? Well, I bought the book new in the
    Ace Books edition and paid the cover price of 40 cents for it.
    It's not that the novel itself is great. It is a relatively bland
    dystopia. The concept might well have been one that H. G. Wells
    would have approved of and one that would have fit into his future
    history of WHEN THE SLEEPER WAKES, A TALE OF DAYS TO COME, and THE
    TIME MACHINE. As those who have seen the film will know, society
    has broken into a rich and powerful ruling class who live in the
    city above ground and the workers who live in the bowels of the
    city. The above city is an exaggerated view of the best of
    Manhattan extrapolated into the 21st Century. That is not
    surprising since the idea for the novel came from seeing the New
    York skyline. In the book, however, Joh Fredersen, the ruler of
    the city, gets New York stock exchange information from across an
    ocean so the city of Metropolis is probably intended to be
    European, though we are never told where. The city has three
    layers with the machinery that runs the city in the middle layer
    and the workers in the dismal, dark nether regions so deep below
    the city that when the main character goes down he speculates that
    it could not be much further down to reach the center of the earth.

    This vision of the city is the only thing that really works in
    either the book or the film. Joh Fredersen's son Freder is aghast
    to learn how cruel the social system is. He is at the same time
    smitten with Maria, a sort of social reformer whose religious
    parables profoundly move the workers. There is just one more
    major character and the only one of any real interest in the book.

    Rotwang lives under the city in a mysterious old house. He is
    part evil wizard and part mad scientist (the film only hints at
    his wizardry and concentrates on the scientist). Enraged at the
    loss of the only woman he ever loved to Joh Fredersen, he has
    built a faceless soulless mechanical version of her. Joh
    Fredersen convinces Rotwang to use the robot to bring about the
    destruction of the city he runs.

    That brings me to the real reason I wanted to read the book the
    film was based on. The film, being a silent film, is short on
    words. It never explains why the ruler of a city would want to
    see his own city destroyed. The book is nothing but words.
    Surely it gives a better explanation. Well, it does, but only
    slightly. Fredersen tries to destroy the city and kill thousands
    so his son can rebuild the city. End of explanation. One does
    not expect well-motivated characters in a religious parable. And
    time and again Von Harbou lays on religious symbolism so that the
    reader does not forget this is a parable. Far more than even in
    the film, virtually every aspect of the book seems aimed at making
    a religious point.

    METROPOLIS as a reading experience is only fair. As a device to
    explain the basic illogic of the film it is all but a waste of
    time. One might almost believe it was based on the film instead
    of the reverse. By modern standards it is not much of a novel.
    It is instead just an interesting curio of the film. [-mrl]

    [I am not reprinting Mark's review of the Giorgio Moroder
    METROPOLIS (on which he is not entirely negative), or of the
    theater version staged in London in 1989 (on which he is). -ecl]

    ===================================================================

    TOPIC: Which Word Doesn't Belong? (comments by Evelyn C. Leeper)

    Which word doesn't belong in this list:

    allays, arrays, assays, aways, bays, belays, brays, clays, copays,
    days, decays, delays, drays, essays, flays, frays, gays, grays,
    hays, inlays, jays, lays, mays, nays, okays, pays, plays, prays,
    rays, relays, repays, says, shays, slays, spays, splays, sprays,
    stays, strays, sways, todays, trays, unlays, ways

    The answer will be in next week's issue. [-ecl]

    ===================================================================

    TOPIC: "Adrift In Currents Clean and Clear" by Seanan McGuire
    (copyright 2025, Macmillan Audio, 4 hours and 8 minutes, ASIN:
    B0DNR17F2K, narrated by Barrie Kreinik) (audio book review
    by Joe Karpierz)

    "Adrift In Currents Clean and Clear" is the 10th novella is Seanan
    McGuire's "Wayward Children" series. The story fills in the
    backstory of Nadya, the Drowned Girl who first appeared in
    "Beneath the Sugar Sky" and is one of the longest tenured students
    at Eleanor West's School For Wayward Children. Like many of the
    "Wayward Children" stories, especially the more recent ones, this
    is a story of acceptance of who you are and how to stay true to
    yourself amidst people who want to change you.

    Nadya was abandoned by her Russian mother, and ended up in an
    orphanage. Nadya spent a very long time in the orphanage, mostly
    because most visiting families would not adopt her because she was
    born with only one arm. She was eventually adopted by American
    parents who wanted the best for their new little girl. Aside from
    the new clothes and shoes (among other things), her parents tried
    to assimilate her into American life, including (and not
    unreasonably) enrolling her in English classes. But more
    importantly, they had her fitted for a prosthetic arm, which Nadya
    felt she didn't need because she believed she was whole already,
    the way she was born. She was used to having one arm, she became
    efficient at using one arm, and being one-armed was who she was.

    One day, Nadya went for a walk to the turtle pond (she loved
    turtles) that she went to with her adoptive father. There, on the
    back of one of the turtles, were the words we're all used to
    seeing by now in a Wayward Children novella: "Be Sure". Nadya
    reached for the turtle, and fell into the door that had
    materialized there, through to the drowned world of Belyyreka.
    There, Nadya is befriended by the humans, becomes part of a
    family, and is eventually accepted into that world's society.
    It's probably not too much of a spoiler to state that after
    experiencing many adventures, she ends up at Eleanor's.

    I won't go into any additional details about the story. I think
    the discovery of those details should be left to the reader.
    However, I will say this. While the themes of the story are
    consistent with the rest of the novellas in the series (especially
    the more recent ones), my personal opinion is that this story is
    filler. It's well written, the characters are well-developed and
    interesting, and the story is (also in my opinion), better than
    several of the more recent entries in the series. We really don't
    need Nadya's backstory to appreciate the overall arc of the
    "Wayward Children" series. That's quite possibly the old
    curmudgeon in me, saying "Get on with it already--advance the
    storyline", and more importantly, get us to the end. I feel that
    the series has been drawn out a bit longer than necessary, and the
    messaging in general feels too heavy. Don't get me wrong.
    McGuire's message throughout the series is necessary and spot on.
    But when the series becomes a delivery system for the message,
    rather than a delivery system for a good story (and of course,
    that may be the point, I suppose), I begin to lose interest.

    Will I read the next (and remaining, no matter how many there are)
    novella in the series? Of course I will. I've said before that
    I'm a completist, and I am certainly interested in where McGuire
    is going with this, if anywhere. And, honestly, reading a novella
    that I may or may not enjoy will not take as much time as reading
    a full length novel that I may or may not enjoy. So, no matter
    how long it goes, I'll follow it to the end. [-jak]

    ===================================================================

    TOPIC: SOONISH: TEN EMERGING TECHNOLOGIES THAT'LL IMPROVE AND/OR
    RUIN EVERYTHING and A CITY ON MARS by Dr. Kelly Weinersmith and
    Zack Weinersmith (book reviews by Paul S. R. Chisholm)

    Dr. Kelly Weinersmith (born Smith; biologist, science enthusiast)
    and Zack Weinersmith (born Weiner; cartoonist, science enthusiast)
    have written two excellent books.

    SOONISH: TEN EMERGING TECHNOLOGIES THAT'LL IMPROVE AND/OR RUIN
    EVERYTHING (2017) made predictions about eleven advances in the
    next few years or decades. The first one, cheaper access to
    space, was already underway as the book was finished. Some of the
    less-soon include bioprinting and brain-computer interfaces. The
    Weinersmiths have done their research, and supply many details
    about what things might happen in the near-ish future and what
    things are pretty far off.

    All in all, the authors are carefully optimistic about what
    mankind can accomplish. I wouldn't call them techno-pessimists or
    even (a surprisingly loaded term) techo-realists.
    Techno-hopeful-but-patient?

    A CITY ON MARS: CAN WE SETTLE SPACE, SHOULD WE SETTLE SPACE, AND
    HAVE WE REALLY THOUGHT THIS THROUGH? (2023) continues their
    thorough consideration about what the future might bring.

    The writers describe how even a devastated Earth would be more
    hospitable than orbital habitats, the Moon, or Mars. The first is
    extremely vulnerable to unhealthy amounts of radiation; the second
    and third are covered in dangerous material (highly abrasive
    silica dust on the Moon, perchlorates in Martian soil). Legal
    issues are very unclear. (Chapter 12 is titled "The Outer Space
    Treaty: Great for Regulating Space Sixty Years Ago.")

    Low gravity is a constant concern throughout the book. Our
    experience with microgravity raises concerns. Could Martian
    settlers have grandkids? Consider potential mothers born and
    raised in low gravity; would they develop strong enough bones and
    muscles to safely give birth? There is literally no data.

    They don't call for giving up on space. We should expand the list
    of things humans can do well in space, and do those things. (That
    list gets shorter as robots become more capable.) We should
    investigate the long-term effects of living in low gravity. We
    should still learn how humans in space could live with cosmic ray
    exposure. We should still visit Mars.

    The Weinersmiths aren't pessimistic about long-term habitation in
    space. They only worry about doing so in the near future, a
    couple decades or less. They argue it would take several decades
    or longer to truly understand the risks and the opportunities.
    Until then, Mars really ain't the kind of place to raise your
    kids, and "cold as hell" doesn't begin to cover it.

    To quote from a negative review on Amazon: "the book is well
    written, itrCOs humorous, and theyrCOre probably right about
    everything.... This book, while undoubtedly correct, is just sad
    and depressing."

    Yeah. Much as I'd like to, I can't argue with the Weinersmiths'
    conclusion.

    I'd be happy to debate this with others who've read one or both of
    these books. [-psrc]

    ===================================================================

    TOPIC: A CITY ON MARS: CAN WE SETTLE SPACE, SHOULD WE SETTLE
    SPACE, AND HAVE WE REALLY THOUGHT THIS THROUGH? by Dr. Kelly
    Weinersmith and Zack Weinersmith (book review by Dale Skran)

    The ever-growing list of books aiming to slow a purported "rush to
    settle space" has gained a reluctant newcomer. I say reluctant
    because the first text in the book is:

    "To the space-settlement community. You welcomed us and you
    shared your wisdom. Also, your data. We worry that many of you
    will be disappointed by some of our conclusions, but where we have
    diverged from your views, we haven't diverged from your vision of
    a glorious human future."

    The book in question is A CITY ON MARS: CAN WE SETTLE SPACE,
    SHOULD WE SETTLE SPACE, AND HAVE WE REALLY THOUGHT THIS THROUGH?
    by Zack and Kelly Weinersmith, who previously published the
    well-received book SOONISH.

    As part of the community that welcomed the Weinersmiths--Kelly
    attended the National Space Society (NSS) Space Settlement
    Workshop in November 2021, and Rod Pyle, the Editor-in-Chief of
    the NSS flagship magazine AD ASTRA, is listed as having made a
    significant contribution to the book--I'm indeed a bit
    disappointed. But my greater disappointment is that the NSS is
    apparently not making the case for space settlement as well as it
    should. A CITY ON MARS points out a few holes in our arguments
    that we have left open, and it falls on us to close them. The
    Weinersmiths have done us a favor by pointing them out.

    A full response to the points raised by the authors would require
    a book, or perhaps many books, so the scope of this review must be
    limited. This isn't the best book to give someone to inspire them
    to build a human future in space. The overall tone is downbeat
    and the logic often less than airtight. My particular annoyance
    is the insistence of many authors, including the Weinersmiths, on
    spilling vast amounts of ink over how bad zero gravity is. Let's
    admit it now--zero gravity is terrible for human bodies, and no
    serious advocate of space settlement suggests zero-gravity space
    settlements.

    Although the Weinersmiths present a reasonably good history of the
    Outer Space Treaty and the Moon Agreement, they appear to lack a
    solid understanding of why the latter is the ultimate poison pill
    for space development and settlement. Having a U.N. agency manage
    space only makes sense if your goal is to prevent space
    development and settlement from occurring. Something like the
    Moon Agreement won't result in a slowing of space development--it
    will result in the end of space development beyond Earth orbit.

    Another misstep lies in an over-focus on Mars as a settlement
    destination combined with a dismissal of free-space settlements
    that appears to be based on the authors' inability to understand
    how large objects might be constructed in space. Some NSS leaders
    have been focused on this topic for years, but the organization
    has not made a truly convincing argument to the public at large.
    Let's hope the advent of A CITY ON MARS will inspire engineers to
    rise to the challenge of demonstrating construction techniques for
    large, mile-sized space structures. I note in passing that
    although the section Part II--Spome is weak overall, the
    discussion about the Moon as a location for settlement does an
    excellent job of explaining why, although not the top destination
    for settlement, there's a strong case that the path to our space
    future may be situated there.

    It was with disappointment that I discovered that behind the
    Weinersmith's anti-space solar power arguments was none other than
    Casey Handmer, who has been tilting against space solar power for
    at least the last decade. I have written a point-by-point
    refutation of Casey's arguments on the NSS blog, but our failure
    to convince the Weinersmiths suggests just how far the NSS has to
    go to persuade mainstream scientists that it's feasible.
    Widespread skepticism about space solar power has resulted in
    essentially zero investment in a scientifically proven technology.

    Meanwhile, untold billions are funneled into fusion research with
    only incremental progress demonstrated to date.

    On the other hand, A CITY ON MARS is well worth reading for space
    advocates. There's some excellent research here, and I learned a
    good bit. It should come as no surprise that the best chapters
    are the ones with a biology focus, given Kelly Weinersmith's
    professional background as an expert on parasitic worms. Part
    III--Pocket Edens is also notable, and Section V--The Paths
    Forward has considerable food for thought on various attempts to
    get around the Outer Space Treaty and the possible pitfalls space
    settlements might face in becoming sovereign.

    The authors' greatest fear appears to be that the Artemis Accords
    will lead first to a gold rush on the Moon, and then to actual
    great-power conflict in space. They seem astonished at the
    popularity of the accords, and no doubt are even more concerned
    today as the Accords have continued to gain signatures, including
    from all the major European space powers, much of Latin America,
    and India. The Artemis Accords are a ray of hope in the bleak
    "space law" landscape, which as envisioned by the creators of the
    Moon Agreement will ensure we never leave Earth. This may be the
    greatest challenge to the NSS--to continue to support the Artemis
    Accords while making the case that safety zones won't lead to
    land-grabs or warfare. The NSS has started the work of creating a
    framework for investor-friendly "benefits-sharing" based on
    resource reservation, and the Weinersmiths's critical analysis of
    this approach will be helpful in guiding our future work. So,
    let's get to it. The space settlement future is waiting, but it
    will only happen by dint of our hard work today.

    You can find my 90-page response to A CITY ON MARS at <https://nss.org/wp-content/uploads/NSS-JOURNAL-Critique-of-A-City- on-Mars.pdf>. [-dls]

    ===================================================================

    TOPIC: The One Ring (letters of comment by Robert Mitchell and
    Steve Coltrin)

    In response to Evelyn's comments on The One Ring in the 06/13/25
    issue of the MT VOID, Rob Mitchell writes:

    I'm not a Tolkien scholar, but I've read a fair amount of his
    works including his Letters. The answer to "how does the Ring
    work" is basically, yes, it corrupts, but it works much more
    readily on characters with weak moral compasses and a lust for
    power. Smeagol was corrupted almost immediately because of his
    avarice (Deagol had already given him a birthday present, so when
    TOR was found, it was greed that made Smeagol demand it). Boromir
    resisted TOR for some time, perhaps aided by the grounding
    presence of Gandalf, but once the Fellowship was in crisis,
    Boromir's loyalty to Gondor overrode his initial pledge. It
    wasn't for personal gain or power (at least that's what he told
    himself), but rather a desire to bring a powerful weapon to his
    beleaguered home. As for Sam, first, he didn't have it long.
    Second, his is the purest spirit in the whole story, which is also
    why he could so readily give TOR back to Frodo. One could ask,
    then why not let Sam be the Ringbearer? I think Tolkien wanted
    Frodo to represent the common person--basically decent and
    empathetic, but unable to resist TOR in the end. I doubt even Sam
    would have the fortitude to resists TOR's influence at Mt.
    Doom--it certainly didn't want to allow itself to be destroyed!

    What I'd like to know is why didn't TOR affect Tom Bombadil? Lots
    of theories about that one! [-rlm]

    Evelyn responds:

    I think choosing Frodo rather than Sam as the Ringbearer is
    basically classism on Tolkien's part. Sam is subservient to
    Frodo throughout THE LORD OF THE RINGS; he only pushes back on
    Frodo's orders when Frodo tries to deny Sam his subservience
    (e.g., tries to go off without him). [-ecl]

    And Steve Coltrin writes:

    [Evelyn wrote,] "First we have Deagol who finds TOR. Almost
    immediately, Smeagol murders him for the Ring. So both of them
    seem to have been corrupted by merely being in the presence of
    TOR." [-ecl]

    How do you see D\'eagol as having been corrupted, esp. given that
    he had the Ring for about ten seconds? Sure he wanted to keep the
    Ring, but that's not unreasonable given that he found it. I read
    the passage as the Ring deciding that Sm\'eagol would make a more
    suitable host (and, as it turns out, probably having been wrong).
    [-spc]

    Evelyn replies:

    You're probably right. I just seemed to remember that Deagol put
    up more of a fight to keep TOR. [-ecl]

    ===================================================================

    TOPIC: Leg Men (letter of comment by Hal Heydt)

    In response to Joe Karpierz's review of THE TAINTED CUP in the
    06/13/25 issue of the MT VOID, Hal Heydt writes:

    [Joe Karpierz wrote,] "Dinios Kol (Din for short) is a new
    apprentice investigator assigned to Investigator Anagosa Dolabra
    (Ana, as you might guess)." [-jak]

    What immediately comes to mind from that description of the pair
    is Nero Wolfe and Archy Goodwin, Wolfe's "leg man". Or if you
    prefer an SF reworking of that pair, Randall Garrett's Marquise de
    London and Lord Bontriomphe. [-hh]

    ===================================================================

    TOPIC: This Week's Reading (book comments by Evelyn C. Leeper)

    I'm not sure if I ever read JOURNEY TO THE CENTER OF THE EARTH by
    Jules Verne (many publishers), but I am currently listening to an
    audiobook of it (done on The Drama Pod podcast). At one point the
    narrator(*) says they had been in the tunnels forty-seven days
    before they got to the Central Sea. Given that the rule-of-thumb
    is two to two-and-a-half pounds of food per person per day when
    hiking, each would have to be carrying 100 pounds of food, plus
    all their ropes, lamps, and other gear. And that's assuming that
    they weren't carrying enough for what was supposedly a trip of
    about 4000 miles. Estimates vary, but assuming a middle number of
    20 miles a day, that would be 200 days each way, or 400 days
    total, so 800 pounds of food each.

    I don't think so.

    (*) This audiobook is an example of accent-blind casting. The
    narrator is supposedly the nephew of someone with a thick, almost
    ludicrous, German accent, yet the nephew's accent is pretty
    clearly African-American. [-ecl]

    ===================================================================

    Evelyn C. Leeper
    evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com


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  • From Someone Else@someone.else@example.com.invalid to rec.arts.sf.fandom on Sun Jun 22 17:05:12 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.fandom

    In Message-ID:<1038uoa$hm28$1@dont-email.me>,
    "Evelyn C. Leeper" <evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com> wrote:

    TOPIC: Which Word Doesn't Belong? (comments by Evelyn C. Leeper)

    Which word doesn't belong in this list:

    allays, arrays, assays, aways, bays, belays, brays, clays, copays,
    days, decays, delays, drays, essays, flays, frays, gays, grays,
    hays, inlays, jays, lays, mays, nays, okays, pays, plays, prays,
    rays, relays, repays, says, shays, slays, spays, splays, sprays,
    stays, strays, sways, todays, trays, unlays, ways

    The answer will be in next week's issue. [-ecl]

    ROT13ed for those who want to solve it themselves (assuming my answer
    is right):
    Fnlf vf gur bayl bar gung qbrfa'g eulzr jvgu gur erfg.
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  • From Tim Merrigan@tppm@rr.ca.com to rec.arts.sf.fandom on Sun Jun 22 15:16:00 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.fandom

    On 6/22/2025 2:05 PM, Someone Else wrote:
    In Message-ID:<1038uoa$hm28$1@dont-email.me>,
    "Evelyn C. Leeper" <evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com> wrote:

    TOPIC: Which Word Doesn't Belong? (comments by Evelyn C. Leeper)

    Which word doesn't belong in this list:

    allays, arrays, assays, aways, bays, belays, brays, clays, copays,
    days, decays, delays, drays, essays, flays, frays, gays, grays,
    hays, inlays, jays, lays, mays, nays, okays, pays, plays, prays,
    rays, relays, repays, says, shays, slays, spays, splays, sprays,
    stays, strays, sways, todays, trays, unlays, ways

    The answer will be in next week's issue. [-ecl]

    ROT13ed for those who want to solve it themselves (assuming my answer
    is right):
    Fnlf vf gur bayl bar gung qbrfa'g eulzr jvgu gur erfg.

    That's my guess, too.
    --

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    Tim Merrigan

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  • From Gary McGath@garym@mcgath.com to rec.arts.sf.fandom on Mon Jun 23 11:43:56 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.fandom

    On 6/22/25 8:59 AM, Evelyn C. Leeper wrote:

    TOPIC: METROPOLIS (film comments by Evelyn C. Leeper)

    Our movie-and-book group watched METROPOLIS (1927) this month, and
    read (or tried to read) METROPOLIS by Thea Von Harbou.-a Whether it
    was Von Harbou's writing, or the translation, I found the book
    over-flowery and then some (and I was not the only one).

    I just glanced at the first few sentences of the original German. It's ultraviolet prose.

    https://www.projekt-gutenberg.org/harbou/metropol/chap001.html
    --
    Gary McGath http://www.mcgath.com
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