• Re: When Carl Sandburg met Bob Dylan

    From Rudy Canoza@rudy.can@jllkone.not to alt.arts.poetry.comments,rec.arts.poems,rec.music.dylan on Fri Nov 28 07:00:27 2025
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    W.Dockery wrote:
    Gregory Morrow wrote:
    W.Dockery wrote:
    did they mention rachel

    It was in 1964.


    What year did Bob allegedly rape her?

    I don't know enough about it to answer your questions about that.


    Because it never happened, gullible Donkey.
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  • From Rudy Canoza@rudy.can@jllkone.not to alt.arts.poetry.comments,rec.arts.poems,rec.music.dylan on Fri Nov 28 07:05:07 2025
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    W.Dockery wrote:
    Gregory Morrow wrote:

    W.Dockery wrote:
    did they mention rachel

    Probably not the part about her rape and torture accusations against Bob.


    You're an idiot for feeding her vicious lies, Donkey.
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  • From Will Dockery@user3274@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.arts.poetry.comments,rec.arts.poems,rec.music.dylan on Sun Nov 30 14:24:10 2025
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    Rudy Canoza <rudy@phil.hendrie.con> posted:
    Will Dockery wrote:

    Getting this thread back on track:

    When Carl Sandburg met Bob Dylan:

    https://groups.google.com/g/rec.music.dylan/c/zhWBZGHCn8Y/m/HieH0OUdBQAJ

    And so it goes.

    Indeed.

    For once we agree.

    EfyA
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  • From Will Dockery@user3274@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.arts.poetry.comments,rec.arts.poems,rec.music.dylan on Sun Nov 30 15:03:00 2025
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    When Carl Sandburg met Bob Dylan:

    https://groups.google.com/g/rec.music.dylan/c/zhWBZGHCn8Y/m/HieH0OUdBQAJ

    Carl Sandburg and Bob Dylan:

    I was just reading an interesting chronology of Bob Dylan's first tour, made in a station wagon, during which he met Carl Sandburg, written by Anthony Scaduto.

    ===============

    https://groups.google.com/g/rec.music.dylan/c/zhWBZGHCn8Y/m/HieH0OUdBQAJ

    "Later that morning they were on the road again, Clayton driving, Dylan studying the map: rCLHendersonville, North Carolina,rCY he said. rCLYou gotta take this highwayrCY rCo shoving the map in front of Clayton rCo rCLand right outside Hendersonville is where he has his place, Flat Rock. ThatrCOs where he lives.rCY

    "They entered Flat Rock late that afternoon, pulled up to a gas station. Dylan jumped out of the car. rCLWhererCOs Carl SandburgrCOs place?rCY he asked the tall gangling mountain man in coveralls. rCLYou know, the poet.rCY The mountain man considered that for a while. rCLYou mean Sandburg the goat farmer?rCY he asked..."

    rCLNo, I mean Sandburg the poet.rCY

    rCLDonrCOt know about no poet. ThererCOs a Sandburg has a goat farm. Wrote a book on Lincoln. Little guy. Littler than you, even. If thatrCOs the one, take this road two miles up there, turn left after the little bridge, canrCOt miss it if yourCOre sober.rCY

    "Stoned, they didnrCOt miss it. They pulled up to the farm house and knocked on the door. A small, bearded, wizened man came out..."

    rCLYourCOre Carl Sandburg,rCY Dylan said, not asking. rCLIrCOm Bob Dylan. IrCOm a poet, too.rCY

    rCLHow nice,rCY Sandburg said, his smile saying another kid who wants to be a poet. But he tried to be gracious and said, rCLCome, sit a while.rCY Mrs. Sandburg joined them, smiling but not saying anything..."

    rCLIrCOve written some songs, Mr. Sandburg,rCY Dylan said. rCLI know Woody Guthrie, herCOs very sick in a hospital, he talked about you a lot. Got some songs here IrCOd appreciate you listening to.rCY He handed Sandburg one of the albums and the poet took it and said, rCLThatrCOs wonderful,rCY but it was clear he was simply being polite. They chatted awhile, Dylan rambling on about folk music, and his own songs and poems, and subtly telling Sandburg he was a young poet and Sandburg should recognize him because he recognized Sandburg as an older poet. And Sandburg smiled at this scruffy kid promoting his album, hyping himself as a poet, Sandburg polite but not particularly interested..."

    "After about ten minutes Dylan said, rCLWell, gotta go. Nice meeting you,rCY and he turned and skipped down the steps and into the car. His entourage piled in after him and they drove off, quickly, Dylan slouching down in the front seat, very quiet, staring straight ahead. Someone handed him a joint and he puffed deeply and said nothing. He was obviously annoyed at his encounter with Sandburg, hurt that the poet had never heard of him..." -Anthony Scaduto

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    (Original text restored.)
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  • From Will Dockery@user3274@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.arts.poetry.comments,rec.arts.poems,rec.music.dylan on Mon Dec 1 00:31:49 2025
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    Rudy Canoza <rudy.can@jllkone.not> posted:

    Will Dockery wrote:
    Gregory Morrow wrote:

    did they mention rachel

    It was in 1964, Rachel wasn't even born yet.

    What year

    Carl Sandburg met Bob Dylan in 1964.

    I don't know enough about it to answer your questions about that.


    Because it never happened

    Either way I wasn't there.
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  • From Will Dockery@user3274@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.arts.poetry.comments,rec.arts.poems,rec.music.dylan on Sun Dec 14 08:34:24 2025
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    Rudy Canoza <rudy@phil.hendrie.con> posted:
    Will Dockery wrote:

    Getting this thread back on track:

    When Carl Sandburg met Bob Dylan:

    https://groups.google.com/g/rec.music.dylan/c/zhWBZGHCn8Y/m/HieH0OUdBQAJ

    And so it goes.


    Indeed.

    Good morning again Rudy.

    EfyA
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  • From Will Dockery@user3274@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.arts.poetry.comments,rec.arts.poems,rec.music.dylan on Sun Dec 14 14:46:00 2025
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    tzod9964@gmail.com (General-Zod) posted:
    Will Dockery wrote:

    When Carl Sandburg met Bob Dylan:

    https://groups.google.com/g/rec.music.dylan/c/zhWBZGHCn8Y/m/HieH0OUdBQAJ


    Good read

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    Agreed.
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  • From Rudy Canoza@rudy.can@jllkone.not to alt.arts.poetry.comments,rec.arts.poems,rec.music.dylan on Sun Dec 14 15:19:53 2025
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    Ted wrote:
    Will-Dockery wrote:
    Did they mention Rachel's accusations of rape and torture against Bob?



    She's an airhead. Only you would believe anything she says.


    Will Donkey is a gullible rube.
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