Nomen Nescio wrote:
https://cordcuttersnews.com/babylon-5-is-now-free-to-watch-on-youtube/
YouTube is the future of TV shows it seems!
I don't know what's happened to Disney+ either, but I got an
e-mail from Sky this morning informing me that Disney+ and HBO
Max are now included free with my Sky subscription... so Disney+
(advert supported tier obviously) at not extra charge.
Nomen Nescio wrote:
https://cordcuttersnews.com/babylon-5-is-now-free-to-watch-on-youtube/
YouTube is the future of TV shows it seems!
I don't know what's happened to Disney+ either, but I got an e-mail
from Sky this morning informing me that Disney+ and HBO Max are now
included free with my Sky subscription... so Disney+ (advert supported
tier obviously) at not extra charge.
On 2026-02-13 15:59:15 +0000, Blueshirt said:
I don't know what's happened to Disney+ either, but I got an
e-mail from Sky this morning informing me that Disney+ and
HBO Max are now included free with my Sky subscription...
so Disney+ (advert supported tier obviously) at not extra
charge.
Sky TV here in New Zealand dropped their normal Disney
channels back in 2019 when Disney+ launched here, but Sky TV
does still have HBO.
YouTube is the future of TV shows it seems!
On 2026-02-13 15:59:15 +0000, Blueshirt said:
Nomen Nescio wrote:
https://cordcuttersnews.com/babylon-5-is-now-free-to-watch-on-youtube/
YouTube is the future of TV shows it seems!
I don't know what's happened to Disney+ either, but I got an e-mail
from Sky this morning informing me that Disney+ and HBO Max are now
included free with my Sky subscription... so Disney+ (advert supported
tier obviously) at not extra charge.
Sky TV here in New Zealand dropped their normal Disney channels back in
2019 when Disney+ launched here, but Sky TV does still have HBO.
Your Name wrote:
On 2026-02-13 15:59:15 +0000, Blueshirt said:
I don't know what's happened to Disney+ either, but I got an
e-mail from Sky this morning informing me that Disney+ and
HBO Max are now included free with my Sky subscription...
so Disney+ (advert supported tier obviously) at not extra
charge.
Sky TV here in New Zealand dropped their normal Disney
channels back in 2019 when Disney+ launched here, but Sky TV
does still have HBO.
This is the actual Disney+ they are including, via the app on
the Sky Q box, with the ad supported Disney+ tier being
available at no extra cost to Sky subscribers. The channels
won't be on the Sky EPG to be viewed individually.
Seems weird, but it's probably a sign Disney are desperate for
customers in this age of streaming competition... now, every Sky
subscriber will have access to Disney+, which - in theory -
should push up their viewership.
On Fri, 13 Feb 2026 15:59:15 +0000, Blueshirt wrote:
YouTube is the future of TV shows it seems!
And YouTube downloaders are the future of timeshifting ...
On Fri, 13 Feb 2026 15:59:15 +0000, Blueshirt wrote:
YouTube is the future of TV shows it seems!
And YouTube downloaders are the future of timeshifting ...
It's also a way around the diminishing releases of actual disc
formats, although there is something of a come back for these.
On Sat, 14 Feb 2026 12:42:02 +1300, Your Name wrote:
It's also a way around the diminishing releases of actual disc
formats, although there is something of a come back for these.
Sony has stopped making Blu-Ray disc recorders.
Players are still available, but no doubt their days are numbered ...
Many shows and movies are still being released on DVD, Blu-ray, and
HD.
Sales figures have dropped a lot from the highs, but disc formats
are making a bit of a come back, just like vinyl did and to a lesser
degree CDs and audio cassettes.
On Sat, 14 Feb 2026 14:08:12 +1300, Your Name wrote:
Many shows and movies are still being released on DVD, Blu-ray, and HD.
DVD-Video would be a waste of time these days, unless you are only
watching old content that was made in SD quality.
Sales figures have dropped a lot from the highs, but disc formats are
making a bit of a come back, just like vinyl did and to a lesser degree
CDs and audio cassettes.
IrCOve lost count of the number of times that itrCOs been claimed that
there is a rCLvinyl comebackrCY. If thererCOs a more pointless analog format to make a comeback, it has to be vinyl.
Are people adopting a vinyl affectation just to signal some kind of
aversion to rCLdigital soundrCY? IrCOve got news for you: all the content being put on that vinyl these days goes through digital processing at
some point in the chain.
On 2026-02-13 22:06:32 +0000, Lawrence D|Oliveiro said:
On Fri, 13 Feb 2026 15:59:15 +0000, Blueshirt wrote:
YouTube is the future of TV shows it seems!
And YouTube downloaders are the future of timeshifting ...
And for getting around greedy streaming services that suddenly decide / >forced to drop a show. Once you have a copy, you can watch it wenever
you want (although it is technically illegal in many places).
It's also a way around the diminishing releases of actual disc formats, >although there is something of a come back for these.
On Sat, 14 Feb 2026 12:42:02 +1300, Your Name wrote:
It's also a way around the diminishing releases of actual disc
formats, although there is something of a come back for these.
Sony has stopped making Blu-Ray disc recorders.
Players are still available, but no doubt their days are numbered ...
On 2026-02-14 00:44:13 +0000, Lawrence D|Oliveiro said:
On Sat, 14 Feb 2026 12:42:02 +1300, Your Name wrote:
It's also a way around the diminishing releases of actual disc
formats, although there is something of a come back for these.
Sony has stopped making Blu-Ray disc recorders.
Players are still available, but no doubt their days are numbered ...
TV set-top DVD *recorders* are difficult to find - Panasonic is one
company apparently still making them, and you can of course get them as >computer drives.
TV set-top DVD *players* are still made by a few manufacturers, such as >Sony, Panasonic, and LG.
Many shows and movies are still being released on DVD, Blu-ray, and HD. >Sales figures have dropped a lot from the highs, but disc formats are
making a bit of a come back, just like vinyl did and to a lesser degree
CDs and audio cassettes. Even VHS is having something of a revival.
These come backs has / could mean manufacturers restart making the
devices to play them on.
On Sat, 14 Feb 2026 14:08:12 +1300, Your Name wrote:
Many shows and movies are still being released on DVD, Blu-ray, and
HD.
DVD-Video would be a waste of time these days, unless you are only
watching old content that was made in SD quality.
Sales figures have dropped a lot from the highs, but disc formats
are making a bit of a come back, just like vinyl did and to a lesser
degree CDs and audio cassettes.
IrCOve lost count of the number of times that itrCOs been claimed that
there is a rCLvinyl comebackrCY. If thererCOs a more pointless analog format >to make a comeback, it has to be vinyl.
Are people adopting a vinyl affectation just to signal some kind of
aversion to rCLdigital soundrCY? IrCOve got news for you: all the content >being put on that vinyl these days goes through digital processing at
some point in the chain.
On 2026-02-14 02:10:05 +0000, Lawrence D-|Oliveiro said:
On Sat, 14 Feb 2026 14:08:12 +1300, Your Name wrote:
Many shows and movies are still being released on DVD, Blu-ray, and HD.
DVD-Video would be a waste of time these days, unless you are only
watching old content that was made in SD quality.
It's also cheaper for little kids' shows. :-)
Sales figures have dropped a lot from the highs, but disc formats are
making a bit of a come back, just like vinyl did and to a lesser degree >>> CDs and audio cassettes.
IrCOve lost count of the number of times that itrCOs been claimed that
there is a rCLvinyl comebackrCY. If thererCOs a more pointless analog format
to make a comeback, it has to be vinyl.
Vinyl is definitely making a come back. Sales figures are rising every
year, but it might never reaches the heights it ataained in the past
(partly due to the expense these days - the records, the players, and
the continually replacing the needle / stylus).
For 2022, the Recording Industry Association of America reported
that: "Revenues from vinyl records grew 17% to $1.2 billion rCo the
sixteenth consecutive year of growth rCo and accounted for 71% of
physical format revenues.
2024: The U.S. music industry sold 43.6 million vinyl records rCo
the 18th consecutive year of growth.
The same has begun to happen with audio cassettes, although probably
won't be the same increase as vinyl.
Are people adopting a vinyl affectation just to signal some kind of
aversion to rCLdigital soundrCY? IrCOve got news for you: all the content >> being put on that vinyl these days goes through digital processing at
some point in the chain.
Almost all of it is probably produced using digital equipment these
days in teh recording studios, but the final vinyl record itself is
played on analogue equipment by the purchasers, which to some people
sounds better.
For many people, having physical objects linging the shelves is also
much more satisfying than a computer drive filled with digital files
or, in the case of streaming services, having nothing except an
on-screen list stored somewhere in the "cloud". Not to mention
streaming services simply dropping content whenever they feel like it
or are forced to by the rights holders.
On 2026-02-14 02:10:05 +0000, Lawrence D-|Oliveiro said:
Are people adopting a vinyl affectation just to signal some kind of
aversion to rCLdigital soundrCY? IrCOve got news for you: all the content
being put on that vinyl these days goes through digital processing
at some point in the chain.
Almost all of it is probably produced using digital equipment these
days in teh recording studios, but the final vinyl record itself is
played on analogue equipment by the purchasers, which to some people
sounds better.
For many people, having physical objects linging the shelves is also
much more satisfying than a computer drive filled with digital files
or, in the case of streaming services, having nothing except an
on-screen list stored somewhere in the "cloud". Not to mention
streaming services simply dropping content whenever they feel like
it or are forced to by the rights holders.
On Sat, 14 Feb 2026 16:10:40 +1300, Your Name wrote:
On 2026-02-14 02:10:05 +0000, Lawrence D-|Oliveiro said:
Are people adopting a vinyl affectation just to signal some kind of
aversion to rCLdigital soundrCY? IrCOve got news for you: all the content >>> being put on that vinyl these days goes through digital processing at
some point in the chain.
Almost all of it is probably produced using digital equipment these
days in the recording studios, but the final vinyl record itself is
played on analogue equipment by the purchasers, which to some people
sounds better.
With all that dust and wear that gets worse with every play? rCLSounds betterrCY than what? Maybe old shellac 78s, but nothing newer than that.
For many people, having physical objects lining the shelves is also
much more satisfying than a computer drive filled with digital files
or, in the case of streaming services, having nothing except an
on-screen list stored somewhere in the "cloud". Not to mention
streaming services simply dropping content whenever they feel like it
or are forced to by the rights holders.
This is why you have copies of the files on your own computer drives -- preferably more than one.
On 2026-02-14 03:30:08 +0000, Lawrence D-|Oliveiro said:
This is why you have copies of the files on your own computer
drives -- preferably more than one.
*And* copies on DVD, Blu-ray, VHS, vinyl, audio cassette, 8-track,
Video8, MiniDV, Digital8, Hi8, paper printouts, carved stone
tablets, ... ;-)
On Sat, 14 Feb 2026 18:01:41 +1300, Your Name wrote:
On 2026-02-14 03:30:08 +0000, Lawrence D|Oliveiro said:
This is why you have copies of the files on your own computer
drives -- preferably more than one.
*And* copies on DVD, Blu-ray, VHS, vinyl, audio cassette, 8-track,
Video8, MiniDV, Digital8, Hi8, paper printouts, carved stone
tablets, ... ;-)
Bit dumb to put all that money into those inferior formats, when high-capacity magnetic and solid-state drives are so cheap ...
Quantity is not quality ...
On 2026-02-14 02:10:05 +0000, Lawrence D-|Oliveiro said:
Are people adopting a vinyl affectation just to signal some kind of
aversion to rCLdigital soundrCY? IrCOve got news for you: all the
content being put on that vinyl these days goes through digital
processing at some point in the chain.
Almost all of it is probably produced using digital equipment these
days in teh recording studios, but the final vinyl record itself is
played on analogue equipment by the purchasers, which to some people
sounds better.
On Fri, 13 Feb 2026 15:59:15 +0000, Blueshirt wrote:
YouTube is the future of TV shows it seems!
And YouTube downloaders are the future of timeshifting ...
On Sat, 14 Feb 2026 12:42:02 +1300, Your Name wrote:
It's also a way around the diminishing releases of actual
disc formats, although there is something of a come back for
these.
Sony has stopped making Blu-Ray disc recorders.
Players are still available, but no doubt their days are
numbered ...
On Sat, 14 Feb 2026 16:10:40 +1300, Your Name wrote:
On 2026-02-14 02:10:05 +0000, Lawrence D-|Oliveiro said:
Are people adopting a vinyl affectation just to signal some kind of
aversion to rCLdigital soundrCY? IrCOve got news for you: all the content >>> being put on that vinyl these days goes through digital processing
at some point in the chain.
Almost all of it is probably produced using digital equipment these
days in teh recording studios, but the final vinyl record itself is
played on analogue equipment by the purchasers, which to some people
sounds better.
With all that dust and wear that gets worse with every play? rCLSounds >betterrCY than what? Maybe old shellac 78s, but nothing newer than that.
For many people, having physical objects linging the shelves is also
much more satisfying than a computer drive filled with digital files
or, in the case of streaming services, having nothing except an
on-screen list stored somewhere in the "cloud". Not to mention
streaming services simply dropping content whenever they feel like
it or are forced to by the rights holders.
This is why you have copies of the files on your own computer drives
-- preferably more than one.
On 2026-02-14 03:30:08 +0000, Lawrence D-|Oliveiro said:
On Sat, 14 Feb 2026 16:10:40 +1300, Your Name wrote:
On 2026-02-14 02:10:05 +0000, Lawrence D-|Oliveiro said:
Are people adopting a vinyl affectation just to signal some kind of
aversion to rCLdigital soundrCY? IrCOve got news for you: all the content >>>> being put on that vinyl these days goes through digital processing at >>>> some point in the chain.
Almost all of it is probably produced using digital equipment these
days in the recording studios, but the final vinyl record itself is
played on analogue equipment by the purchasers, which to some people
sounds better.
With all that dust and wear that gets worse with every play? rCLSounds
betterrCY than what? Maybe old shellac 78s, but nothing newer than that.
For many people, having physical objects lining the shelves is also
much more satisfying than a computer drive filled with digital files
or, in the case of streaming services, having nothing except an
on-screen list stored somewhere in the "cloud". Not to mention
streaming services simply dropping content whenever they feel like it
or are forced to by the rights holders.
This is why you have copies of the files on your own computer drives --
preferably more than one.
*And* copies on DVD, Blu-ray, VHS, vinyl, audio cassette, 8-track,
Video8, MiniDV, Digital8, Hi8, paper printouts, carved stone tablets,
... ;-)
On Sat, 14 Feb 2026 18:01:41 +1300, Your Name wrote:
On 2026-02-14 03:30:08 +0000, Lawrence D-|Oliveiro said:
This is why you have copies of the files on your own computer
drives -- preferably more than one.
*And* copies on DVD, Blu-ray, VHS, vinyl, audio cassette, 8-track,
Video8, MiniDV, Digital8, Hi8, paper printouts, carved stone
tablets, ... ;-)
Bit dumb to put all that money into those inferior formats, when >high-capacity magnetic and solid-state drives are so cheap ...
Quantity is not quality ...
On 2026-02-14 06:43:54 +0000, Lawrence D|Oliveiro said:
On Sat, 14 Feb 2026 18:01:41 +1300, Your Name wrote:
On 2026-02-14 03:30:08 +0000, Lawrence D|Oliveiro said:
This is why you have copies of the files on your own computer
drives -- preferably more than one.
*And* copies on DVD, Blu-ray, VHS, vinyl, audio cassette, 8-track,
Video8, MiniDV, Digital8, Hi8, paper printouts, carved stone
tablets, ... ;-)
Bit dumb to put all that money into those inferior formats, when
high-capacity magnetic and solid-state drives are so cheap ...
Quantity is not quality ...
Backup, backup, backup ... in as many different formats as possible
(and stored in as many different locations as possible, even other >countries), then one can no longer be read for whatever reason, some of
the other still can. ;-)
On 14/02/2026 2:10 pm, Your Name wrote:
On 2026-02-14 02:10:05 +0000, Lawrence D-|Oliveiro said:
<Snip>
Are people adopting a vinyl affectation just to signal some kind of
aversion to rCLdigital soundrCY? IrCOve got news for you: all the
content being put on that vinyl these days goes through digital
processing at some point in the chain.
Almost all of it is probably produced using digital equipment these
days in teh recording studios, but the final vinyl record itself is
played on analogue equipment by the purchasers, which to some people
sounds better.
It sounds better because it IS the actual sound produced by the >Voices/Instruments ..... rather than an approximate reproduction of the >"actual sound produced" .... although many/most listeners wouldn't be
able to tell the difference.
----
Daniel70
Lawrence DOliveiro wrote:
On Fri, 13 Feb 2026 15:59:15 +0000, Blueshirt wrote:
YouTube is the future of TV shows it seems!
And YouTube downloaders are the future of timeshifting ...
A lot of classic era Doctor Who full episodes are available
free on the BBC "Doctor Who: Classic" YouTube channel... I
can only see the episodes with a VPN so I assume it's US only...
but still, it's something for Whovians over there to download
if they want a digital collection of Doctor Who full stories on
their hard drive.
Unlike modern Who, those episodes are worth watching again and
again...
Lawrence DOliveiro wrote:
On Sat, 14 Feb 2026 12:42:02 +1300, Your Name wrote:
It's also a way around the diminishing releases of actual
disc formats, although there is something of a come back for
these.
Sony has stopped making Blu-Ray disc recorders.
Players are still available, but no doubt their days are
numbered ...
Physical media is pretty much only made for collectors now...
the younger generation don't seem to buy much physical media
these days.
I've got tons of it; books, comics, LPs', cassettes, CDs, DVDs,
Blu-rays (etc.) but they sit on shelves and in boxes... and I'm
fairly sure the children/grandchildren will just dump the lot of
it when they clear the house after I die.
Lawrence DOliveiro wrote:
On Sat, 14 Feb 2026 12:42:02 +1300, Your Name wrote:
It's also a way around the diminishing releases of actual disc formats, >>> although there is something of a come back for these.
Sony has stopped making Blu-Ray disc recorders.
Players are still available, but no doubt their days are numbered ...
Physical media is pretty much only made for collectors now... the
younger generation don't seem to buy much physical media these days.
I've got tons of it; books, comics, LPs', cassettes, CDs, DVDs,
Blu-rays (etc.) but they sit on shelves and in boxes...
and I'm fairly sure the children/grandchildren will just dump the lot
of it when they clear the house after I die.
On 14/02/2026 2:10 pm, Your Name wrote:
Almost all of it is probably produced using digital equipment these
days in teh recording studios, but the final vinyl record itself is
played on analogue equipment by the purchasers, which to some
people sounds better.
It sounds better because it IS the actual sound produced by the Voices/Instruments .....
On 2026-02-14 06:43:54 +0000, Lawrence D-|Oliveiro said:
On Sat, 14 Feb 2026 18:01:41 +1300, Your Name wrote:
On 2026-02-14 03:30:08 +0000, Lawrence D-|Oliveiro said:
This is why you have copies of the files on your own computer
drives -- preferably more than one.
*And* copies on DVD, Blu-ray, VHS, vinyl, audio cassette, 8-track,
Video8, MiniDV, Digital8, Hi8, paper printouts, carved stone
tablets, ... ;-)
Bit dumb to put all that money into those inferior formats, when
high-capacity magnetic and solid-state drives are so cheap ...
Quantity is not quality ...
Backup, backup, backup ... in as many different formats as possible
...
A lot of classic era Doctor Who full episodes are available
free on the BBC "Doctor Who: Classic" YouTube channel... I
can only see the episodes with a VPN so I assume it's US only...
I would take physical over digital.
On Sat, 14 Feb 2026 21:33:21 +1100, Daniel70 wrote:
On 14/02/2026 2:10 pm, Your Name wrote:
Almost all of it is probably produced using digital equipment these
days in teh recording studios, but the final vinyl record itself is
played on analogue equipment by the purchasers, which to some people
sounds better.
It sounds better because it IS the actual sound produced by the
Voices/Instruments .....
I wonder how it can manage that, given it came from digital sources ...
I mean, yourCOre not trying to say that the digital sources were
capturing rCLthe actual sound produced by the Voices/InstrumentsrCY, are you?
I suppose another possibility is that the real world sounds inherently scratchy and dusty, which somehow gets removed during digital sampling.
So the vinyl format is putting back that original real-world
authenticity.
Could that be it?
On Sat, 14 Feb 2026 20:16:26 +1300, Your Name wrote:
On 2026-02-14 06:43:54 +0000, Lawrence D-|Oliveiro said:
On Sat, 14 Feb 2026 18:01:41 +1300, Your Name wrote:
On 2026-02-14 03:30:08 +0000, Lawrence D-|Oliveiro said:
This is why you have copies of the files on your own computer
drives -- preferably more than one.
*And* copies on DVD, Blu-ray, VHS, vinyl, audio cassette, 8-track,
Video8, MiniDV, Digital8, Hi8, paper printouts, carved stone tablets, ... ;-)
Bit dumb to put all that money into those inferior formats, when
high-capacity magnetic and solid-state drives are so cheap ...
Quantity is not quality ...
Backup, backup, backup ... in as many different formats as possible
...
In as many different *high quality* formats as possible. You donrCOt want backups that are less trustworthy than the originals, do you?
On Sat, 14 Feb 2026 14:39:26 -0000 (UTC), The Doctor wrote:
I would take physical over digital.
If there is an analog format worth resurrecting, itrCOs tape.
Vinyl remains stuck in the 1970s, but the humble cassette tape
continued evolving long after that, with things like chromiun and
barium oxides, metal particles, new kinds of Dolby noise reduction, and what-all.
Speaking of noise reduction, remember that vinyl has this convoluted
thing called the rCLRIAA equalization curverCY. Back in the day, you had ceramic versus magnetic pickups, and one of them had to compensate for
the curve, but the other did not (I forget which was which). How could
you be sure either way that you were compensating for the curve
exactly? You didnrCOt.
On 2026-02-14 12:11:39 +0000, Blueshirt said:
Lawrence DOliveiro wrote:
On Sat, 14 Feb 2026 12:42:02 +1300, Your Name wrote:
It's also a way around the diminishing releases of actual disc formats, >>>> although there is something of a come back for these.
Sony has stopped making Blu-Ray disc recorders.
Players are still available, but no doubt their days are numbered ...
Physical media is pretty much only made for collectors now... the
younger generation don't seem to buy much physical media these days.
Actually, it's mainly the younger generation who are driving the come
back of the old media ...
DVDs and CDs are becoming cool again, thanks mostly to Gen Z
------------------------------------------------------------
Consumers of all ages are looking to discs to get offline and
away from algorithms, and for a younger generation, itrCOs seen
as rCLvintage.rCY
<https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2025/12/14/dvd-cd-revival-sales/>
Just enter a fake email address to get past the paywall pop-up, but
there are numerous other similar articles elsewhere.
I've got tons of it; books, comics, LPs', cassettes, CDs, DVDs,
Blu-rays (etc.) but they sit on shelves and in boxes...
I've got lots of VHS tapes, DVDs, and books too, as well as a few
comics and audio-story casettes and vinyl records. Plus quite a few
boxed computer games and a ton of toys (mainly Star Wars).
and I'm fairly sure the children/grandchildren will just dump the lot
of it when they clear the house after I die.
Only if they are dumb or lazy. Such things in good condition could be
worth a lot of money (maybe not individually, but as a total amount).
:-)
I don't have any children, and my younger brother *is* dumb and lazy,
so they will probably all just go in the bin, if I don't sell them
first.
On Sat, 14 Feb 2026 21:33:21 +1100, Daniel70 wrote:
On 14/02/2026 2:10 pm, Your Name wrote:
Almost all of it is probably produced using digital equipment these
days in teh recording studios, but the final vinyl record itself is
played on analogue equipment by the purchasers, which to some
people sounds better.
It sounds better because it IS the actual sound produced by the
Voices/Instruments .....
I wonder how it can manage that, given it came from digital sources
... I mean, yourCOre not trying to say that the digital sources were >capturing rCLthe actual sound produced by the Voices/InstrumentsrCY, are
you?
I suppose another possibility is that the real world sounds inherently >scratchy and dusty, which somehow gets removed during digital
sampling. So the vinyl format is putting back that original real-world >authenticity.
Could that be it?
On Sat, 14 Feb 2026 20:16:26 +1300, Your Name wrote:
On 2026-02-14 06:43:54 +0000, Lawrence D-|Oliveiro said:
On Sat, 14 Feb 2026 18:01:41 +1300, Your Name wrote:
On 2026-02-14 03:30:08 +0000, Lawrence D-|Oliveiro said:
This is why you have copies of the files on your own computer
drives -- preferably more than one.
*And* copies on DVD, Blu-ray, VHS, vinyl, audio cassette, 8-track,
Video8, MiniDV, Digital8, Hi8, paper printouts, carved stone
tablets, ... ;-)
Bit dumb to put all that money into those inferior formats, when
high-capacity magnetic and solid-state drives are so cheap ...
Quantity is not quality ...
Backup, backup, backup ... in as many different formats as possible
...
In as many different *high quality* formats as possible. You donrCOt
want backups that are less trustworthy than the originals, do you?
On Sat, 14 Feb 2026 12:11:38 GMT, Blueshirt wrote:
A lot of classic era Doctor Who full episodes are available
free on the BBC "Doctor Who: Classic" YouTube channel... I
can only see the episodes with a VPN so I assume it's US only...
BitTorrent is still a thing, you know.
On Sat, 14 Feb 2026 14:39:26 -0000 (UTC), The Doctor wrote:
I would take physical over digital.
If there is an analog format worth resurrecting, itrCOs tape.
Vinyl remains stuck in the 1970s, but the humble cassette tape
continued evolving long after that, with things like chromiun and
barium oxides, metal particles, new kinds of Dolby noise reduction,
and what-all.
Speaking of noise reduction, remember that vinyl has this convoluted
thing called the rCLRIAA equalization curverCY. Back in the day, you had >ceramic versus magnetic pickups, and one of them had to compensate for
the curve, but the other did not (I forget which was which). How could
you be sure either way that you were compensating for the curve
exactly? You didnrCOt.
On 2026-02-14 22:32:05 +0000, Lawrence D-|Oliveiro said:
On Sat, 14 Feb 2026 21:33:21 +1100, Daniel70 wrote:
On 14/02/2026 2:10 pm, Your Name wrote:
Almost all of it is probably produced using digital equipment these
days in teh recording studios, but the final vinyl record itself is
played on analogue equipment by the purchasers, which to some people
sounds better.
It sounds better because it IS the actual sound produced by the
Voices/Instruments .....
I wonder how it can manage that, given it came from digital sources ...
I mean, yourCOre not trying to say that the digital sources were
capturing rCLthe actual sound produced by the Voices/InstrumentsrCY, are
you?
I suppose another possibility is that the real world sounds inherently
scratchy and dusty, which somehow gets removed during digital sampling.
So the vinyl format is putting back that original real-world
authenticity.
Could that be it?
The recording studios also use a much better digital equipment than
home music players or what is released on the CD or online / streaming >services, so what you're hearing has been downsampled.
But the on and off bits of digital audio and video can never match the >near-infinite uniqueness of analogue. Even if you were digitally
recording at a bazillion samples per second, you'd still be missing
things between each sample. Of course, once you get to such ridiculous >rates, whether the human ear can actually tell the difference is a
matter of opinion though. Simiarly with computer / phone / TV screens - >nobody is going to notice any difference between 4K, 8K, 16K, etc.
unless they are pressing their noses against the screen.
On 2026-02-14 22:33:44 +0000, Lawrence D-|Oliveiro said:
On Sat, 14 Feb 2026 20:16:26 +1300, Your Name wrote:tablets, ... ;-)
On 2026-02-14 06:43:54 +0000, Lawrence D-|Oliveiro said:
On Sat, 14 Feb 2026 18:01:41 +1300, Your Name wrote:
On 2026-02-14 03:30:08 +0000, Lawrence D-|Oliveiro said:
This is why you have copies of the files on your own computer
drives -- preferably more than one.
*And* copies on DVD, Blu-ray, VHS, vinyl, audio cassette, 8-track,
Video8, MiniDV, Digital8, Hi8, paper printouts, carved stone
Bit dumb to put all that money into those inferior formats, when
high-capacity magnetic and solid-state drives are so cheap ...
Quantity is not quality ...
Backup, backup, backup ... in as many different formats as possible
...
In as many different *high quality* formats as possible. You donrCOt want >> backups that are less trustworthy than the originals, do you?
It's all very well having a 1024K video on a drive, but if you haven't
got any way to plug it in or a device that can decode / play it, it's >pointless. Meanwhile, the carved stone tablet is going to be readable
by anyone for centuries (excluding damage or the language dying out).
:-)
It's a bit like the Voyager probes that rather stupidly carry a
phonograph record ... but will the lifeforms (whether alien or future >space-travelling humans) that eventually find it actually be able to
play the sounds or decode the images, even with the supposed
instructions etched into the back??
On 2026-02-14 22:38:27 +0000, Lawrence D-|Oliveiro said:
On Sat, 14 Feb 2026 14:39:26 -0000 (UTC), The Doctor wrote:
I would take physical over digital.
If there is an analog format worth resurrecting, itrCOs tape.
Vinyl remains stuck in the 1970s, but the humble cassette tape
continued evolving long after that, with things like chromiun and
barium oxides, metal particles, new kinds of Dolby noise reduction, and
what-all.
New release audio casette tapes do exist (even new release 8-tracks).
Not huge numbers of course, but the growing come back might change that
to some degree.
<https://tapeheadcity.com/collections/new-releases>
Even the JB Hi-Fi high-street shops here in New Zealand (and presumably >their Australian stores) have a small selection of new audio casette >releases.
<https://www.jbhifi.co.nz/collections/music/cassettes>
Speaking of noise reduction, remember that vinyl has this convoluted
thing called the rCLRIAA equalization curverCY. Back in the day, you had
ceramic versus magnetic pickups, and one of them had to compensate for
the curve, but the other did not (I forget which was which). How could
you be sure either way that you were compensating for the curve
exactly? You didnrCOt.
The recording studios also use a much better digital equipment than
home music players or what is released on the CD or online /
streaming services, so what you're hearing has been downsampled.
But the on and off bits of digital audio and video can never match
the near-infinite uniqueness of analogue.
Even if you were digitally recording at a bazillion samples per
second, you'd still be missing things between each sample.
Tape vs Digital Versatile Data format. What will not deteriorate?
On Sun, 15 Feb 2026 13:47:06 +1300, Your Name wrote:
The recording studios also use a much better digital equipment than
home music players or what is released on the CD or online / streaming
services, so what you're hearing has been downsampled.
Are you admitting that digital technology can possibly be good enough
to serve as source material for your precious vinyl?
But the on and off bits of digital audio and video can never match the
near-infinite uniqueness of analogue.
Quantum theory says no.
Even if you were digitally recording at a bazillion samples per second,
you'd still be missing things between each sample.
Fun fact: your nervous system is basically digital (nerve impulses
either fire or don'Ot fire). So you already do.
On Sun, 15 Feb 2026 01:40:41 -0000 (UTC), The Doctor wrote:
Tape vs Digital Versatile Data format. What will not deteriorate?
This is why you keep multiple copies, and maintain (and keep checking)
hash checksums to ensure nothing has changed.
Despite claims by various manufacturers, *no* media is ever-lasting.
On 2026-02-15 02:23:32 +0000, Lawrence D-|Oliveiro said:
On Sun, 15 Feb 2026 13:47:06 +1300, Your Name wrote:
The recording studios also use a much better digital equipment
than home music players or what is released on the CD or online /
streaming services, so what you're hearing has been downsampled.
Are you admitting that digital technology can possibly be good
enough to serve as source material for your precious vinyl?
I didn't say whether it was "good enough" or not, simply what
happens.
For a CD, the sounds are downsampled to CD-quality from teh higher
quality studio digital recordings. Similarly with various streaming qualities.
For vinyl, it will depend on how exactly the vinyl master is made,
but it still won't be a purely digital recording, even though the
studio source was. There will be minute changes and differences.
Together, that *could* mean some people hear (or more precisely
*feel*) a difference in quality.
But the on and off bits of digital audio and video can never match
the near-infinite uniqueness of analogue.
Quantum theory says no.
Multiverse theory says every peice of music exists in every format
and quality ... somewhere. :-p
Even if you were digitally recording at a bazillion samples per
second, you'd still be missing things between each sample.
Fun fact: your nervous system is basically digital (nerve impulses
either fire or donrCOt fire). So you already do.
Yes and no (and depends on who you ask). The human systems, including
the nervous system, are not really strictly analogue nor digital. They
are basically a mix of / somewhere between the two.
On Sun, 15 Feb 2026 16:16:19 +1300, Your Name wrote:
On 2026-02-15 02:23:32 +0000, Lawrence D-|Oliveiro said:
On Sun, 15 Feb 2026 13:47:06 +1300, Your Name wrote:
The recording studios also use a much better digital equipment
than home music players or what is released on the CD or online /
streaming services, so what you're hearing has been downsampled.
Are you admitting that digital technology can possibly be good enough
to serve as source material for your precious vinyl?
I didn't say whether it was "good enough" or not, simply what happens.
You used the term rCLdownsampledrCY to refer to consumer delivery formats like vinyl.
For a CD, the sounds are downsampled to CD-quality from the higher
quality studio digital recordings. Similarly with various streaming
qualities.
Streaming and file formats can be in any sample rate and depth desired.
No need for any rCLdownsamplingrCY at all.
For vinyl, it will depend on how exactly the vinyl master is made, but
it still won't be a purely digital recording, even though the studio
source was. There will be minute changes and differences. Together,
that *could* mean some people hear (or more precisely *feel*) a
difference in quality.
So analog losses actually *improve* the perception in quality?
Does this go for the dust and groove wear as well?
But the on and off bits of digital audio and video can never match the >>>> near-infinite uniqueness of analogue.
Quantum theory says no.
Multiverse theory says every peice of music exists in every format and
quality ... somewhere. :-p
Regardless of your attempt to distract from it, your original statement remains nonsense.
Even if you were digitally recording at a bazillion samples per second, >>>> you'd still be missing things between each sample.
Fun fact: your nervous system is basically digital (nerve impulses
either fire or donrCOt fire). So you already do.
Yes and no (and depends on who you ask). The human systems, including
the nervous system, are not really strictly analogue nor digital. They
are basically a mix of / somewhere between the two.
Nevertheless, it is a fact that nerve impulses either fire or donrCOt
fire, there is no in-between. That doesnrCOt depend on whom you ask; go
ask any expert.
(No doubt yourCOll get the typical contrarian answers from audiophiles
and other non-experts, so donrCOt bother ...)
On 2026-02-14 22:33:44 +0000, Lawrence D-|Oliveiro said:
On Sat, 14 Feb 2026 20:16:26 +1300, Your Name wrote:
On 2026-02-14 06:43:54 +0000, Lawrence D-|Oliveiro said:
On Sat, 14 Feb 2026 18:01:41 +1300, Your Name wrote:
On 2026-02-14 03:30:08 +0000, Lawrence D-|Oliveiro said:
This is why you have copies of the files on your own computer
drives -- preferably more than one.
*And* copies on DVD, Blu-ray, VHS, vinyl, audio cassette, 8-track,
Video8, MiniDV, Digital8, Hi8, paper printouts, carved stone
tablets, ... ;-)
Bit dumb to put all that money into those inferior formats, when
high-capacity magnetic and solid-state drives are so cheap ...
Quantity is not quality ...
Backup, backup, backup ... in as many different formats as possible
...
In as many different *high quality* formats as possible. You donrCOt
want backups that are less trustworthy than the originals, do you?
It's all very well having a 1024K video on a drive, but if you haven't
got any way to plug it in or a device that can decode / play it, it's pointless. Meanwhile, the carved stone tablet is going to be readable by anyone for centuries (excluding damage or the language dying out). :-)
It's a bit like the Voyager probes that rather stupidly carry a
phonograph record ... but will the lifeforms (whether alien or future space-travelling humans) that eventually find it actually be able to
play the sounds or decode the images, even with the supposed
instructions etched into the back??
On Sat, 14 Feb 2026 21:33:21 +1100, Daniel70 wrote:
On 14/02/2026 2:10 pm, Your Name wrote:
Almost all of it is probably produced using digital equipment
these days in teh recording studios, but the final vinyl record
itself is played on analogue equipment by the purchasers, which
to some people sounds better.
It sounds better because it IS the actual sound produced by the
Voices/Instruments .....
I wonder how it can manage that, given it came from digital sources
... I mean, yourCOre not trying to say that the digital sources were capturing rCLthe actual sound produced by the Voices/InstrumentsrCY, are
you?
I suppose another possibility is that the real world sounds
inherently scratchy and dusty,
which somehow gets removed during digital sampling.
So the vinyl format is putting back that original real-world
authenticity.
Could that be it?
On 2026-02-15 02:23:32 +0000, Lawrence D-|Oliveiro said:
On Sun, 15 Feb 2026 13:47:06 +1300, Your Name wrote:
The recording studios also use a much better digital equipment than
home music players or what is released on the CD or online /
streaming services, so what you're hearing has been downsampled.
Are you admitting that digital technology can possibly be good enough
to serve as source material for your precious vinyl?
I didn't say whether it was "good enough" or not, simply what happens. Personally I couldn't actually care less since I have zero interest in
music anyway.-a :-)
For a CD, the sounds are downsampled to CD-quality from teh higher
quality studio digital recordings. Similarly with various streaming qualities.
For vinyl, it will depend on how exactly the vinyl master is made, but
it still won't be a purely digital recording, even though the studio
source was. There will be minute changes and differences. Together, that *could* mean some people hear (or more precisely *feel*) a difference in quality.
But the on and off bits of digital audio and video can never match
the near-infinite uniqueness of analogue.
Quantum theory says no.
Multiverse theory says every peice of music exists in every format and quality ... somewhere.-a :-p
Even if you were digitally recording at a bazillion samples per
second, you'd still be missing things between each sample.
On 2026-02-15 05:57:18 +0000, Lawrence D-|Oliveiro said:
On Sun, 15 Feb 2026 16:16:19 +1300, Your Name wrote:
On 2026-02-15 02:23:32 +0000, Lawrence D-|Oliveiro said:
On Sun, 15 Feb 2026 13:47:06 +1300, Your Name wrote:
But the on and off bits of digital audio and video can never match
the near-infinite uniqueness of analogue.
Quantum theory says no.
Multiverse theory says every peice of music exists in every format
and quality ... somewhere. :-p
Regardless of your attempt to distract from it, your original
statement remains nonsense.
Digital = on or off, and only at the sampled timeframes
Analogue = variable and constantly changing, even if only minutely
On Sat, 14 Feb 2026 14:39:26 -0000 (UTC), The Doctor wrote:
I would take physical over digital.
If there is an analog format worth resurrecting, itrCOs tape.
Vinyl remains stuck in the 1970s, but the humble cassette tape
continued evolving long after that, with things like chromiun and
barium oxides, metal particles, new kinds of Dolby noise reduction,
and what-all.
Speaking of noise reduction, remember that vinyl has this convoluted
thing called the rCLRIAA equalization curverCY. Back in the day, you had ceramic versus magnetic pickups, and one of them had to compensate for
the curve, but the other did not (I forget which was which). How could
you be sure either way that you were compensating for the curve
exactly? You didnrCOt.
On Sun, 15 Feb 2026 13:47:06 +1300, Your Name wrote:
The recording studios also use a much better digital equipment than
home music players or what is released on the CD or online /
streaming services, so what you're hearing has been downsampled.
Are you admitting that digital technology can possibly be good enough
to serve as source material for your precious vinyl?
But the on and off bits of digital audio and video can never match
the near-infinite uniqueness of analogue.
Quantum theory says no.
Even if you were digitally recording at a bazillion samples per
second, you'd still be missing things between each sample.
Fun fact: your nervous system is basically digital (nerve impulses
either fire or donrCOt fire). So you already do.
On Sun, 15 Feb 2026 01:40:41 -0000 (UTC), The Doctor wrote:
Tape vs Digital Versatile Data format. What will not deteriorate?
This is why you keep multiple copies, and maintain (and keep checking)
hash checksums to ensure nothing has changed.
On 2026-02-15 02:23:32 +0000, Lawrence D|Oliveiro said:
On Sun, 15 Feb 2026 13:47:06 +1300, Your Name wrote:
The recording studios also use a much better digital equipment than
home music players or what is released on the CD or online / streaming
services, so what you're hearing has been downsampled.
Are you admitting that digital technology can possibly be good enough
to serve as source material for your precious vinyl?
I didn't say whether it was "good enough" or not, simply what happens. >Personally I couldn't actually care less since I have zero interest in
music anyway. :-)
For a CD, the sounds are downsampled to CD-quality from teh higher
quality studio digital recordings. Similarly with various streaming >qualities.
For vinyl, it will depend on how exactly the vinyl master is made, but
it still won't be a purely digital recording, even though the studio
source was. There will be minute changes and differences. Together,
that *could* mean some people hear (or more precisely *feel*) a
difference in quality.
But the on and off bits of digital audio and video can never match the
near-infinite uniqueness of analogue.
Quantum theory says no.
Multiverse theory says every peice of music exists in every format and >quality ... somewhere. :-p
Even if you were digitally recording at a bazillion samples per second, >>> you'd still be missing things between each sample.
Fun fact: your nervous system is basically digital (nerve impulses
either fire or don'Ot fire). So you already do.
Yes and no (and depends on who you ask). The human systems, including
the nervous system, are not really strictly analogue nor digital. They
are basically a mix of / somewhere between the two.
On 2026-02-15 02:24:42 +0000, Lawrence D|Oliveiro said:
On Sun, 15 Feb 2026 01:40:41 -0000 (UTC), The Doctor wrote:
Tape vs Digital Versatile Data format. What will not deteriorate?
This is why you keep multiple copies, and maintain (and keep checking)
hash checksums to ensure nothing has changed.
Despite claims by various manufacturers, *no* media is ever-lasting. >Companies claiming their disc formats will last X number of years are
simply guessing (or owrse, lying), since none have been around for that
long to know for sure.
Various factors also affect the lifetime of storage media (humidity, >temperature changes, etc.).
Even carved stone tablets will eventually erode if left outside in the
wind and rain. :-)
On Sun, 15 Feb 2026 16:19:42 +1300, Your Name wrote:
Despite claims by various manufacturers, *no* media is ever-lasting.
This is why you keep multiple copies, and maintain (and keep checking)
hash checksums to ensure nothing has changed.
On Sun, 15 Feb 2026 16:16:19 +1300, Your Name wrote:
On 2026-02-15 02:23:32 +0000, Lawrence D-|Oliveiro said:
On Sun, 15 Feb 2026 13:47:06 +1300, Your Name wrote:
The recording studios also use a much better digital equipment
than home music players or what is released on the CD or online /
streaming services, so what you're hearing has been downsampled.
Are you admitting that digital technology can possibly be good
enough to serve as source material for your precious vinyl?
I didn't say whether it was "good enough" or not, simply what
happens.
You used the term rCLdownsampledrCY to refer to consumer delivery formats >like vinyl.
For a CD, the sounds are downsampled to CD-quality from teh higher
quality studio digital recordings. Similarly with various streaming
qualities.
Streaming and file formats can be in any sample rate and depth
desired. No need for any rCLdownsamplingrCY at all.
For vinyl, it will depend on how exactly the vinyl master is made,
but it still won't be a purely digital recording, even though the
studio source was. There will be minute changes and differences.
Together, that *could* mean some people hear (or more precisely
*feel*) a difference in quality.
So analog losses actually *improve* the perception in quality?
Does this go for the dust and groove wear as well?
But the on and off bits of digital audio and video can never match
the near-infinite uniqueness of analogue.
Quantum theory says no.
Multiverse theory says every peice of music exists in every format
and quality ... somewhere. :-p
Regardless of your attempt to distract from it, your original
statement remains nonsense.
Even if you were digitally recording at a bazillion samples per
second, you'd still be missing things between each sample.
Fun fact: your nervous system is basically digital (nerve impulses
either fire or donrCOt fire). So you already do.
Yes and no (and depends on who you ask). The human systems, including
the nervous system, are not really strictly analogue nor digital. They
are basically a mix of / somewhere between the two.
Nevertheless, it is a fact that nerve impulses either fire or donrCOt
fire, there is no in-between. That doesnrCOt depend on whom you ask; go
ask any expert.
(No doubt yourCOll get the typical contrarian answers from audiophiles
and other non-experts, so donrCOt bother ...)
On 2026-02-15 05:57:18 +0000, Lawrence D-|Oliveiro said:
On Sun, 15 Feb 2026 16:16:19 +1300, Your Name wrote:
On 2026-02-15 02:23:32 +0000, Lawrence D-|Oliveiro said:
On Sun, 15 Feb 2026 13:47:06 +1300, Your Name wrote:
The recording studios also use a much better digital equipment
than home music players or what is released on the CD or online /
streaming services, so what you're hearing has been downsampled.
Are you admitting that digital technology can possibly be good enough >>>> to serve as source material for your precious vinyl?
I didn't say whether it was "good enough" or not, simply what happens.
You used the term rCLdownsampledrCY to refer to consumer delivery formats >> like vinyl.
Actually I said "released on CD or online". Studios will have far
better quality equipment, so the digital recording will need to be >downsampled for any other home-based digital releases. Vinyl releases
will be different since they aren't digital.
For a CD, the sounds are downsampled to CD-quality from the higher
quality studio digital recordings. Similarly with various streaming
qualities.
Streaming and file formats can be in any sample rate and depth desired.
No need for any rCLdownsamplingrCY at all.
Downsampled from the higher quality studio equipment, as well as often
being compressed.
For vinyl, it will depend on how exactly the vinyl master is made, but
it still won't be a purely digital recording, even though the studio
source was. There will be minute changes and differences. Together,
that *could* mean some people hear (or more precisely *feel*) a
difference in quality.
So analog losses actually *improve* the perception in quality?
Does this go for the dust and groove wear as well?
Not if your keep your equipment and collection clean.
The same can be said for CDs - dust on the lens or disc can affect play-back.
But the on and off bits of digital audio and video can never match the >>>>> near-infinite uniqueness of analogue.
Quantum theory says no.
Multiverse theory says every peice of music exists in every format and
quality ... somewhere. :-p
Regardless of your attempt to distract from it, your original statement
remains nonsense.
Digital = on or off, and only at the sampled timeframes
Analogue = variable and constantly changing, even if only minutely
Even if you were digitally recording at a bazillion samples per second, >>>>> you'd still be missing things between each sample.
Fun fact: your nervous system is basically digital (nerve impulses
either fire or donrCOt fire). So you already do.
Yes and no (and depends on who you ask). The human systems, including
the nervous system, are not really strictly analogue nor digital. They
are basically a mix of / somewhere between the two.
Nevertheless, it is a fact that nerve impulses either fire or donrCOt
fire, there is no in-between. That doesnrCOt depend on whom you ask; go
ask any expert.
(No doubt yourCOll get the typical contrarian answers from audiophiles
and other non-experts, so donrCOt bother ...)
Yes, they fire / don't fire, but the *rate* at which they do that does
vary depending on the circumstances.
On 15/02/2026 11:55 am, Your Name wrote:
On 2026-02-14 22:33:44 +0000, Lawrence D-|Oliveiro said:I would love to respond "Yes, of course!" but, just as "we" had more or
On Sat, 14 Feb 2026 20:16:26 +1300, Your Name wrote:
On 2026-02-14 06:43:54 +0000, Lawrence D-|Oliveiro said:
On Sat, 14 Feb 2026 18:01:41 +1300, Your Name wrote:
On 2026-02-14 03:30:08 +0000, Lawrence D-|Oliveiro said:
This is why you have copies of the files on your own computer
drives -- preferably more than one.
*And* copies on DVD, Blu-ray, VHS, vinyl, audio cassette, 8-track, >>>>>> Video8, MiniDV, Digital8, Hi8, paper printouts, carved stone
tablets, ... ;-)
Bit dumb to put all that money into those inferior formats, when
high-capacity magnetic and solid-state drives are so cheap ...
Quantity is not quality ...
Backup, backup, backup ... in as many different formats as possible
...
In as many different *high quality* formats as possible. You donrCOt
want backups that are less trustworthy than the originals, do you?
It's all very well having a 1024K video on a drive, but if you haven't
got any way to plug it in or a device that can decode / play it, it's
pointless. Meanwhile, the carved stone tablet is going to be readable by
anyone for centuries (excluding damage or the language dying out). :-)
It's a bit like the Voyager probes that rather stupidly carry a
phonograph record ... but will the lifeforms (whether alien or future
space-travelling humans) that eventually find it actually be able to
play the sounds or decode the images, even with the supposed
instructions etched into the back??
less given up on Records by the time 'we' put Voyager into space, I'm >guessing 'ET' will have given up on Records (if they had ever had them!)
by the time Voyager gets somewhere near "them".
----
Daniel70
On 15/02/2026 9:32 am, Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:
On Sat, 14 Feb 2026 21:33:21 +1100, Daniel70 wrote:
On 14/02/2026 2:10 pm, Your Name wrote:
Almost all of it is probably produced using digital equipment
these days in teh recording studios, but the final vinyl record
itself is played on analogue equipment by the purchasers, which
to some people sounds better.
It sounds better because it IS the actual sound produced by the
Voices/Instruments .....
I wonder how it can manage that, given it came from digital sources
Yes, in later years, 'they' did process it digitally but, originally,
the tracks were recorded STRAIGHT onto Tape and then they were used to >produce the record tracks from .... oh, hang on, weren't voices/etc >originally recorded onto Cylinders??
... I mean, yourCOre not trying to say that the digital sources were
capturing rCLthe actual sound produced by the Voices/InstrumentsrCY, are
you?
No, the opposite in fact. The Digital Sources were merely producing,
what, 44000 or so samples per second (8bit/16bit/whatever)(combining
Left and Right tracks) of the infinite variations per second!!
I suppose another possibility is that the real world sounds
inherently scratchy and dusty,
Stuff happening all over the place.
which somehow gets removed during digital sampling.
Well, hopefully, the recording studio is of sufficient quality to STOP
the "real world sounds" from making it onto the recording.
So the vinyl format is putting back that original real-worldNO!!
authenticity.
Could that be it?
----
Daniel70
On 15/02/2026 2:16 pm, Your Name wrote:
On 2026-02-15 02:23:32 +0000, Lawrence D-|Oliveiro said:
On Sun, 15 Feb 2026 13:47:06 +1300, Your Name wrote:
The recording studios also use a much better digital equipment than
home music players or what is released on the CD or online /
streaming services, so what you're hearing has been downsampled.
Are you admitting that digital technology can possibly be good enough
to serve as source material for your precious vinyl?
I didn't say whether it was "good enough" or not, simply what happens.
Personally I couldn't actually care less since I have zero interest in
music anyway.-a :-)
For a CD, the sounds are downsampled to CD-quality from teh higher
quality studio digital recordings. Similarly with various streaming
qualities.
For vinyl, it will depend on how exactly the vinyl master is made, but
it still won't be a purely digital recording, even though the studio
source was. There will be minute changes and differences. Together, that
*could* mean some people hear (or more precisely *feel*) a difference in
quality.
But the on and off bits of digital audio and video can never match
the near-infinite uniqueness of analogue.
Quantum theory says no.
Multiverse theory says every peice of music exists in every format and
quality ... somewhere.-a :-p
Even if you were digitally recording at a bazillion samples per
second, you'd still be missing things between each sample.
Yes, but there is a standard for sampling Analogue Signals to produce a >reasonable Digital Signal and that Rate is called the Nyquist Rate and, >basically, it says that to be able to produce a reasonable Audio Signal,
you should sample at at least TWICE the highest frequency to be sampled.
For Audio Signals (Voice/Music), I seem to recall the standard sampling >frequency was about 42,000 samples per second. The samples are then >converted to Digital Ones and Zeros.
Sampling Sound - 101 Computing
Quote
Sampling is a method of converting an analogue audio signal into a
digital signal. While sampling a sound wave, the computer takes
measurements of this sound wave at a regular interval called sampling >interval. Each measurement is then saved as a number in binary format. >Sampling Interval The quality and file size of the sound
End Quote
https://www.101computing.net/sampling-sound/
And the DuckDuckGo Search Assistant gives ......
The Nyquist rate is defined as twice the highest frequency of a signal.
For example, if a signal has a maximum frequency of 10 Hz, the Nyquist
rate would be 20 Hz, meaning it should be sampled at least at this rate
to avoid aliasing and accurately reconstruct the signal.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nyquist_rate
Quote
In signal processing, the Nyquist rate, named after Harry Nyquist, is a >value equal to twice the highest frequency (bandwidth) of a given
function or signal. It has units of samples per unit time,
conventionally expressed as samples per second, or hertz (Hz).[1] When
the signal is sampled at a higher sample rate (see -o Critical
frequency), the resulting discrete-time sequence is said to be free of
the distortion known as aliasing. Conversely, for a given sample rate
the corresponding Nyquist frequency is one-half the sample rate. Note
that the Nyquist rate is a property of a continuous-time signal, whereas >Nyquist frequency is a property of a discrete-time system.
End Quote
----
Daniel70
On 15/02/2026 6:15 pm, Your Name wrote:
On 2026-02-15 05:57:18 +0000, Lawrence D-|Oliveiro said:
On Sun, 15 Feb 2026 16:16:19 +1300, Your Name wrote:
On 2026-02-15 02:23:32 +0000, Lawrence D-|Oliveiro said:
On Sun, 15 Feb 2026 13:47:06 +1300, Your Name wrote:
<Snip>
But the on and off bits of digital audio and video can never match >>>>>> the near-infinite uniqueness of analogue.
Quantum theory says no.
Multiverse theory says every peice of music exists in every format
and quality ... somewhere. :-p
Regardless of your attempt to distract from it, your original
statement remains nonsense.
Digital = on or off, and only at the sampled timeframes
Analogue = variable and constantly changing, even if only minutely
Analogue = infinite sampling rate.
----
Daniel70
On 15/02/2026 9:38 am, Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:
On Sat, 14 Feb 2026 14:39:26 -0000 (UTC), The Doctor wrote:"ceramic versus magnetic pickups"?? What happened to Crystal needles??
I would take physical over digital.
If there is an analog format worth resurrecting, itrCOs tape.
Vinyl remains stuck in the 1970s, but the humble cassette tape
continued evolving long after that, with things like chromiun and
barium oxides, metal particles, new kinds of Dolby noise reduction,
and what-all.
Speaking of noise reduction, remember that vinyl has this convoluted
thing called the rCLRIAA equalization curverCY. Back in the day, you had
ceramic versus magnetic pickups, and one of them had to compensate for
the curve, but the other did not (I forget which was which). How could
you be sure either way that you were compensating for the curve
exactly? You didnrCOt.
----
Daniel70
On Sun, 15 Feb 2026 13:47:06 +1300, Your Name wrote:
The recording studios also use a much better digital
equipment than home music players or what is released on the
CD or online / streaming services, so what you're hearing
has been downsampled.
Are you admitting that digital technology can possibly be good
enough to serve as source material for your precious vinyl?
Lawrence DOliveiro wrote:
On Sun, 15 Feb 2026 13:47:06 +1300, Your Name wrote:
The recording studios also use a much better digital
equipment than home music players or what is released on the
CD or online / streaming services, so what you're hearing
has been downsampled.
Are you admitting that digital technology can possibly be good
enough to serve as source material for your precious vinyl?
Most vinyl LP's are produced from digital masters these days.
Some artists create specialist analogue masters, but not many.
The real audio nerds that have stereo equipment that costs three
grand and think analogue music is the best thing since the
sliced loaf are few and far between. The record labels are
driving the market with expensive collectors editions of albums,
and multiple editions of the same album on twenty different >colours/splatters. (The latest Megadeth album got to No.1 on the
Billboard chart last week helped by it's multitude of physical
editions... CD, a lot of LPs, Cassettes and even a KiT version.)
With the price of LP's these days most people buying vinyl are
record collectors and probably don't even play their records.
Many keeping them sealed thinking they will be worth something
one day. - Which in many cases, they won't! Plus, a lot of
LP's nowadays come with digital download codes for MP3/FLAC
versions of the music. Which helps. So not everyone is buying
vinyl because they like the "warmth" of analogue... along with
the hissing, crackles and pops that go with it.
On 2026-02-14 12:11:39 +0000, Blueshirt said:
Physical media is pretty much only made for collectors
now... the younger generation don't seem to buy much
physical media these days.
Actually, it's mainly the younger generation who are driving
the come back of the old media ...
I've got tons of it; books, comics, LPs', cassettes, CDs,
DVDs, Blu-rays (etc.) but they sit on shelves and in
boxes...
I've got lots of VHS tapes, DVDs, and books too, as well as
a few comics and audio-story casettes and vinyl records. Plus
quite a few boxed computer games and a ton of toys (mainly
Star Wars).
and I'm fairly sure the children/grandchildren will just
dump the lot of it when they clear the house after I die.
Only if they are dumb or lazy. Such things in good condition
could be worth a lot of money (maybe not individually, but as
a total amount). :-)
I don't have any children, and my younger brother is dumb and
lazy, so they will probably all just go in the bin, if I don't
sell them first.
On 2026-02-14 22:38:27 +0000, Lawrence D-|Oliveiro said:
If there is an analog format worth resurrecting, itrCOs tape.
Vinyl remains stuck in the 1970s, but the humble cassette
tape continued evolving long after that, with things like
chromiun and barium oxides, metal particles, new kinds of
Dolby noise reduction, and what-all.
New release audio casette tapes do exist
Actually, it's mainly the younger generation who are driving the come
back of the old media ...
# DVDs and CDs are becoming cool again, thanks mostly to Gen Z
# ------------------------------------------------------------
# Consumers of all ages are looking to discs to get offline and
# away from algorithms, and for a younger generation, it?s seen
# as ?vintage.?
It's not just the drive for vintage. Gen Z, or at least
some of it, is trying to reclaim privacy and local control.
I wish them luck. I'm too old and tired to fight on the
fronts, but I'm rooting for them and I'll help if I can.
Your Name wrote:
On 2026-02-14 22:38:27 +0000, Lawrence D-|Oliveiro said:
If there is an analog format worth resurrecting, itrCOs tape.
Vinyl remains stuck in the 1970s, but the humble cassette
tape continued evolving long after that, with things like
chromiun and barium oxides, metal particles, new kinds of
Dolby noise reduction, and what-all.
New release audio casette tapes do exist
There's usually a cassette version of most music albums these
days. They generally only use the standard type I ferro magnetic
tape though, so high fidelity is not the reason for them being
released. They're limited edition releases for music collectors.
All new cassette releases should come with a pencil included for >completeness...
Verily, in article <10mqrsl$3hek4$1@dont-email.me>, did
YourName@YourISP.com deliver unto us this message:
Actually, it's mainly the younger generation who are driving the come
back of the old media ...
# DVDs and CDs are becoming cool again, thanks mostly to Gen Z
# ------------------------------------------------------------
# Consumers of all ages are looking to discs to get offline and
# away from algorithms, and for a younger generation, it?s seen
# as ?vintage.?
It's not just the drive for vintage. Gen Z, or at least some of it, is >trying to reclaim privacy and local control.
I wish them luck. I'm too old and tired to fight on the fronts, but I'm >rooting for them and I'll help if I can.
----
The True Melissa - Canal Winchester - Ohio
United States of America - North America - Earth
Solar System - Milky Way - Local Group
Virgo Cluster - Laniakea Supercluster - Cosmos
Verily, in article <xn0pm27vz1bfsad001@post.eweka.nl>, did >blueshirt@indigo.news deliver unto us this message:
The True Melissa wrote:
It's not just the drive for vintage. Gen Z, or at least
some of it, is trying to reclaim privacy and local control.
If they want privacy they'd want to stop taking selfies of
themselves everywhere they go, the dinners they eat, and
the drinks they drink, and posting them all over the place!
:-)
I'm pretty sure those are different Zoomers. :-)
My son's a Zoomer, and he's definitely part of the privacy movement. He >refuses to use several major technologies.
I wish them luck. I'm too old and tired to fight on the
fronts, but I'm rooting for them and I'll help if I can.
I wish the future generations luck in knowing when a photo of
somebody doing something is real or it's been created by a
AI/LLM app!
After Photoshop and LLMs, "Photos don't lie" just sounds silly now,
doesn't it?
----
The True Melissa - Canal Winchester - Ohio
United States of America - North America - Earth
Solar System - Milky Way - Local Group
Virgo Cluster - Laniakea Supercluster - Cosmos
On 15/02/2026 9:38 am, Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:
On Sat, 14 Feb 2026 14:39:26 -0000 (UTC), The Doctor wrote:
I would take physical over digital.
If there is an analog format worth resurrecting, itrCOs tape.
Vinyl remains stuck in the 1970s, but the humble cassette tape
continued evolving long after that, with things like chromiun and
barium oxides, metal particles, new kinds of Dolby noise reduction,
and what-all.
Speaking of noise reduction, remember that vinyl has this convoluted
thing called the rCLRIAA equalization curverCY. Back in the day, you had
ceramic versus magnetic pickups, and one of them had to compensate for
the curve, but the other did not (I forget which was which). How could
you be sure either way that you were compensating for the curve
exactly? You didnrCOt.
"ceramic versus magnetic pickups"?? What happened to Crystal needles??
Your Name wrote:
On 2026-02-14 12:11:39 +0000, Blueshirt said:
I've got tons of it; books, comics, LPs', cassettes, CDs, DVDs,
Blu-rays (etc.) but they sit on shelves and in boxes...
I've got lots of VHS tapes, DVDs, and books too, as well as a few
comics and audio-story casettes and vinyl records. Plus quite a few
boxed computer games and a ton of toys (mainly Star Wars).
Mine's mainly Doctor Who and Star Wars...
and I'm fairly sure the children/grandchildren will just dump the lot
of it when they clear the house after I die.
Only if they are dumb or lazy. Such things in good condition could be
worth a lot of money (maybe not individually, but as a total amount).
:-)
A lot of my old nerdy stuff wouldn't be in the greatest condition...
all of my books and comics have been read a few times and the pages are yellowy. The VHS tapes and DVDs are ok as they are in plastic cases,
but I can't seem to give them away.
All of my records have been played, many, many times, and the sleeves
would have the usual wear and tear. So not worth too much.
The True Melissa wrote:
It's not just the drive for vintage. Gen Z, or at least some of it, is
trying to reclaim privacy and local control.
If they want privacy they'd want to stop taking selfies of themselves everywhere they go, the dinners they eat, and the drinks they drink,
and posting them all over the place!
:-)
I wish them luck. I'm too old and tired to fight on the fronts, but I'm
rooting for them and I'll help if I can.
I wish the future generations luck in knowing when a photo of somebody
doing something is real or it's been created by a AI/LLM app!
Verily, in article <xn0pm27vz1bfsad001@post.eweka.nl>, did blueshirt@indigo.news deliver unto us this message:
The True Melissa wrote:
It's not just the drive for vintage. Gen Z, or at least some of it, is
trying to reclaim privacy and local control.
If they want privacy they'd want to stop taking selfies of themselves
everywhere they go, the dinners they eat, and the drinks they drink,
and posting them all over the place!
:-)
I'm pretty sure those are different Zoomers. :-)
My son's a Zoomer, and he's definitely part of the privacy movement. He refuses to use several major technologies.
I wish them luck. I'm too old and tired to fight on the fronts, but I'm >>> rooting for them and I'll help if I can.
I wish the future generations luck in knowing when a photo of somebody
doing something is real or it's been created by a AI/LLM app!
After Photoshop and LLMs, "Photos don't lie" just sounds silly now, doesn't it?
On 2026-02-15 12:41:03 +0000, Blueshirt said:
Your Name wrote:
On 2026-02-14 12:11:39 +0000, Blueshirt said:
I've got tons of it; books, comics, LPs', cassettes, CDs, DVDs,
Blu-rays (etc.) but they sit on shelves and in boxes...
I've got lots of VHS tapes, DVDs, and books too, as well as a few
comics and audio-story casettes and vinyl records. Plus quite a few
boxed computer games and a ton of toys (mainly Star Wars).
Mine's mainly Doctor Who and Star Wars...
and I'm fairly sure the children/grandchildren will just dump the lot >>>> of it when they clear the house after I die.
Only if they are dumb or lazy. Such things in good condition could be
worth a lot of money (maybe not individually, but as a total amount).
:-)
A lot of my old nerdy stuff wouldn't be in the greatest condition...
all of my books and comics have been read a few times and the pages are
yellowy. The VHS tapes and DVDs are ok as they are in plastic cases,
but I can't seem to give them away.
Star Wars VHS tapes sell for around US$10-$15 in used good condition
... a still factory sealed VHS tape of the original pre-"Episode IV"
movie did sell for US$2,500 though.
All of my records have been played, many, many times, and the sleeves
would have the usual wear and tear. So not worth too much.
My few records haven't been used much. We haven't even had a record
player for at least 25 years, probably longer. I sometimes look at
buying a new record player, but the prices are expensive thanks to >manufacturers greedily jumping on the resurgence bandwagon ... plus I >wouldn't use it much.
I did buy one of the last VHS-DVD combo boxes that I put in the
cupboard and has never been used.
On 2026-02-15 15:45:57 +0000, The True Melissa said:
Verily, in article <xn0pm27vz1bfsad001@post.eweka.nl>, diddoesn't it?
blueshirt@indigo.news deliver unto us this message:
The True Melissa wrote:
It's not just the drive for vintage. Gen Z, or at least some of it, is >>>> trying to reclaim privacy and local control.
If they want privacy they'd want to stop taking selfies of themselves
everywhere they go, the dinners they eat, and the drinks they drink,
and posting them all over the place!
:-)
I'm pretty sure those are different Zoomers. :-)
My son's a Zoomer, and he's definitely part of the privacy movement. He
refuses to use several major technologies.
I wish them luck. I'm too old and tired to fight on the fronts, but I'm >>>> rooting for them and I'll help if I can.
I wish the future generations luck in knowing when a photo of somebody
doing something is real or it's been created by a AI/LLM app!
After Photoshop and LLMs, "Photos don't lie" just sounds silly now,
Fake photos pre-date Photoshop by decades and have been around as long
as photogrpahy itself by using in-camera and development tricks. One of
the most famous examples are the Cottingley Fairies photos from 1917
done by two little girls that even had people like Arthur Conan Doyle >believing them. ><https://blog.scienceandmediamuseum.org.uk/the-story-of-the-cottingley-fairies-shows-that-image-manipulation-is-nothing-new/>
Nomen Nescio wrote:
https://cordcuttersnews.com/babylon-5-is-now-free-to-watch-on-youtube/
YouTube is the future of TV shows it seems!
... CD, a lot of LPs, Cassettes and even a KiT version.)"a KiT version"?? Is that something that the Knight Industries 2000 Car
On 2026-02-15 12:41:03 +0000, Blueshirt said:
Your Name wrote:
On 2026-02-14 12:11:39 +0000, Blueshirt said:
I've got tons of it; books, comics, LPs', cassettes, CDs, DVDs,
Blu-rays (etc.) but they sit on shelves and in boxes...
I've got lots of VHS tapes, DVDs, and books too, as well as a few
comics and audio-story casettes and vinyl records. Plus quite a
few boxed computer games and a ton of toys (mainly Star Wars).
Mine's mainly Doctor Who and Star Wars...
and I'm fairly sure the children/grandchildren will just dump
the lot of it when they clear the house after I die.
Only if they are dumb or lazy. Such things in good condition
could be worth a lot of money (maybe not individually, but as a
total amount). :-)
A lot of my old nerdy stuff wouldn't be in the greatest
condition... all of my books and comics have been read a few times
and the pages are yellowy. The VHS tapes and DVDs are ok as they
are in plastic cases, but I can't seem to give them away.
Star Wars VHS tapes sell for around US$10-$15 in used good condition
... a still factory sealed VHS tape of the original pre-"Episode IV"
movie did sell for US$2,500 though.
All of my records have been played, many, many times, and the
sleeves would have the usual wear and tear. So not worth too much.
My few records haven't been used much. We haven't even had a record
player for at least 25 years, probably longer.
I sometimes look at buying a new record player, but the prices are--
expensive thanks to manufacturers greedily jumping on the resurgence bandwagon ... plus I wouldn't use it much.
I did buy one of the last VHS-DVD combo boxes that I put in the
cupboard and has never been used.
Your Name wrote:
On 2026-02-14 22:38:27 +0000, Lawrence D-|Oliveiro said:
If there is an analog format worth resurrecting, itrCOs tape.
Vinyl remains stuck in the 1970s, but the humble cassette
tape continued evolving long after that, with things like
chromiun and barium oxides, metal particles, new kinds of
Dolby noise reduction, and what-all.
New release audio casette tapes do exist
There's usually a cassette version of most music albums these
days. They generally only use the standard type I ferro magnetic
tape though, so high fidelity is not the reason for them being
released. They're limited edition releases for music collectors.
All new cassette releases should come with a pencil included for completeness...
On 13.02.26, Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
Nomen Nescio wrote:
YouTube is the future of TV shows it seems!
I won't object! :)
On 16/02/2026 8:23 am, Your Name wrote:
Star Wars VHS tapes sell for around US$10-$15 in used
good condition ... a still factory sealed VHS tape of
the original pre-"Episode IV" movie did sell for US$2,500
though.
Sorry!! "pre-"Episode IV"?? Do you mean the prequels, Ep I, Ep
II and Ep III??
And, in my opinion, there IS no "Episode IV"!! When I saw it
at the flicks, it was just "Star Wars".
On 15/02/2026 11:53 pm, Blueshirt wrote:
Your Name wrote:
New release audio casette tapes do exist
There's usually a cassette version of most music albums
these days. They generally only use the standard type I
ferro magnetic tape though, so high fidelity is not the
reason for them being released. They're limited edition
releases for music collectors.
All new cassette releases should come with a pencil included
for completeness...
Umm! Is that pencil to be used to re-wind the cassette??
On 13.02.26, Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
Nomen Nescio wrote:
https://cordcuttersnews.com/babylon-5-is-now-free-to-watch-on-youtube/
YouTube is the future of TV shows it seems!
I won't object! :)
Anyone found episode 2, "Midnight on the Firing Line?
--
Mickmane
On 15/02/2026 11:22 pm, Blueshirt wrote:
<Snip>
... CD, a lot of LPs, Cassettes and even a KiT version.)"a KiT version"?? Is that something that the Knight Industries 2000 Car
can play?? ;-P
----
Daniel70
On 16/02/2026 8:23 am, Your Name wrote:
On 2026-02-15 12:41:03 +0000, Blueshirt said:
Your Name wrote:
On 2026-02-14 12:11:39 +0000, Blueshirt said:
I've got tons of it; books, comics, LPs', cassettes, CDs, DVDs,
Blu-rays (etc.) but they sit on shelves and in boxes...
I've got lots of VHS tapes, DVDs, and books too, as well as a few
comics and audio-story casettes and vinyl records. Plus quite a
few boxed computer games and a ton of toys (mainly Star Wars).
Mine's mainly Doctor Who and Star Wars...
and I'm fairly sure the children/grandchildren will just dump
the lot of it when they clear the house after I die.
Only if they are dumb or lazy. Such things in good condition
could be worth a lot of money (maybe not individually, but as a
total amount). :-)
A lot of my old nerdy stuff wouldn't be in the greatest
condition... all of my books and comics have been read a few times
and the pages are yellowy. The VHS tapes and DVDs are ok as they
are in plastic cases, but I can't seem to give them away.
Star Wars VHS tapes sell for around US$10-$15 in used good condition
... a still factory sealed VHS tape of the original pre-"Episode IV"
movie did sell for US$2,500 though.
Sorry!! "pre-"Episode IV"?? Do you mean the prequels, Ep I, Ep II and Ep >III??
And, in my opinion, there IS no "Episode IV"!! When I saw it at the
flicks, it was just "Star Wars".
All of my records have been played, many, many times, and the
sleeves would have the usual wear and tear. So not worth too much.
My few records haven't been used much. We haven't even had a record
player for at least 25 years, probably longer.
My modular Stereo system (Radio Amplifier, Cassette Player, Record
Player and CD Player) HASN'T been re-assembled since I moved into this
house almost ten years ago.
--I sometimes look at buying a new record player, but the prices are--
expensive thanks to manufacturers greedily jumping on the resurgence
bandwagon ... plus I wouldn't use it much.
I did buy one of the last VHS-DVD combo boxes that I put in the
cupboard and has never been used.
Daniel70
On 15/02/2026 11:53 pm, Blueshirt wrote:
Your Name wrote:Umm! Is that pencil to be used to re-wind the cassette??
On 2026-02-14 22:38:27 +0000, Lawrence D-|Oliveiro said:
If there is an analog format worth resurrecting, itrCOs tape.
Vinyl remains stuck in the 1970s, but the humble cassette
tape continued evolving long after that, with things like
chromiun and barium oxides, metal particles, new kinds of
Dolby noise reduction, and what-all.
New release audio casette tapes do exist
There's usually a cassette version of most music albums these
days. They generally only use the standard type I ferro magnetic
tape though, so high fidelity is not the reason for them being
released. They're limited edition releases for music collectors.
All new cassette releases should come with a pencil included for
completeness...
----
Daniel70
Mickmane wrote:
On 13.02.26, Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:https://cordcuttersnews.com/babylon-5-is-now-free-to-watch-on-youtube/
Nomen Nescio wrote:
YouTube is the future of TV shows it seems!
I won't object! :)
Nobody would. Everyone seems to be on YouTube these days...
even the grandchildren!
Daniel70 wrote:
On 16/02/2026 8:23 am, Your Name wrote:
Star Wars VHS tapes sell for around US$10-$15 in used
good condition ... a still factory sealed VHS tape of
the original pre-"Episode IV" movie did sell for US$2,500
though.
Sorry!! "pre-"Episode IV"?? Do you mean the prequels, Ep I, Ep
II and Ep III??
And, in my opinion, there IS no "Episode IV"!! When I saw it
at the flicks, it was just "Star Wars".
Are we doing this AGAIN?!!!
;-)
Daniel70 wrote:
On 15/02/2026 11:53 pm, Blueshirt wrote:
Your Name wrote:Umm! Is that pencil to be used to re-wind the cassette??
New release audio casette tapes do exist
There's usually a cassette version of most music albums
these days. They generally only use the standard type I
ferro magnetic tape though, so high fidelity is not the
reason for them being released. They're limited edition
releases for music collectors.
All new cassette releases should come with a pencil included
for completeness...
Is your nickname Sherlock by any chance?
On 15/02/2026 11:22 pm, Blueshirt wrote:
<Snip>
... CD, a lot of LPs, Cassettes and even a KiT version.)
"a KiT version"?? Is that something that the Knight Industries
2000 Car can play?? ;-P
Daniel70 wrote:
On 15/02/2026 11:22 pm, Blueshirt wrote:
<Snip>
... CD, a lot of LPs, Cassettes and even a KiT version.)
"a KiT version"?? Is that something that the Knight Industries
2000 Car can play?? ;-P
Boom boom!
Daniel tells a funny...
Although, I assume you could play the music in a car as KiT is
basically a digital music format.
IrCOve lost count of the number of times that itrCOs been claimed that
there is a rCLvinyl comebackrCY. If thererCOs a more pointless analog format to make a comeback, it has to be vinyl.
Are people adopting a vinyl affectation just to signal some kind of
aversion to rCLdigital soundrCY?
On 15/02/2026 11:22 pm, Blueshirt wrote:
<Snip>
... CD, a lot of LPs, Cassettes and even a KiT version.)
"a KiT version"?? Is that something that the Knight Industries 2000 Car
can play?? ;-P
On 16/02/2026 8:23 am, Your Name wrote:
On 2026-02-15 12:41:03 +0000, Blueshirt said:
Your Name wrote:
On 2026-02-14 12:11:39 +0000, Blueshirt said:
I've got tons of it; books, comics, LPs', cassettes, CDs, DVDs,
Blu-rays (etc.) but they sit on shelves and in boxes...
I've got lots of VHS tapes, DVDs, and books too, as well as a few
comics and audio-story casettes and vinyl records. Plus quite a few
boxed computer games and a ton of toys (mainly Star Wars).
Mine's mainly Doctor Who and Star Wars...
and I'm fairly sure the children/grandchildren will just dump the lot >>>>> of it when they clear the house after I die.
Only if they are dumb or lazy. Such things in good condition could be >>>> worth a lot of money (maybe not individually, but as a total amount). >>>> :-)
A lot of my old nerdy stuff wouldn't be in the greatest condition...
all of my books and comics have been read a few times and the pages are >>> yellowy. The VHS tapes and DVDs are ok as they are in plastic cases,
but I can't seem to give them away.
Star Wars VHS tapes sell for around US$10-$15 in used good condition
... a still factory sealed VHS tape of the original pre-"Episode IV"
movie did sell for US$2,500 though.
Sorry!! "pre-"Episode IV"?? Do you mean the prequels, Ep I, Ep II and Ep III??
And, in my opinion, there IS no "Episode IV"!! When I saw it at the
flicks, it was just "Star Wars".
All of my records have been played, many, many times, and the sleeves
would have the usual wear and tear. So not worth too much.
My few records haven't been used much. We haven't even had a record
player for at least 25 years, probably longer.
My modular Stereo system (Radio Amplifier, Cassette Player, Record
Player and CD Player) HASN'T been re-assembled since I moved into this
house almost ten years ago.
On 2026-02-14, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
I've lost count of the number of times that it's been claimed that
there is a "vinyl comeback". If there's a more pointless analog format
to make a comeback, it has to be vinyl.
Sales figures and continuing releases of new material show vinyl to
be quite popular and growing each year. It wasn't supposed to happen,
but there it is.
Are people adopting a vinyl affectation just to signal some kind of
aversion to "digital sound"?
That's a presumptuous assumption. For some of us we simply never left
the format. I'm still using audio equipment purchased 50-60 years ago
and have a large collection of 78s, 45s, and LPs as well as cassettes, 8-tracks, and CDs. (For video while I have a media server I also have
Beta, VHS, Laser Disc, and CED disk.)
There is a lot to be said for having physical media rather than
depending on streaming services where you really have no control and
your favorites may disappear at any time.
still have a big box of the previous computer magazine issues I used to
buy before Commodore went bankrupt. :-)
On 2026-02-16, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
still have a big box of the previous computer magazine issues I used to
buy before Commodore went bankrupt. :-)
Speaking of things that weren't supposed to happen, Commodore has risen
from the dead and is now selling an updated version of the Commodore 64:
https://www.commodore.net
On 2026-02-14, Lawrence DrCOOliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
IrCOve lost count of the number of times that itrCOs been claimed that
there is a rCLvinyl comebackrCY. If thererCOs a more pointless analog format >> to make a comeback, it has to be vinyl.
Sales figures and continuing releases of new material show vinyl to
be quite popular and growing each year. It wasn't supposed to happen,
but there it is.
Are people adopting a vinyl affectation just to signal some kind of
aversion to rCLdigital soundrCY?
That's a presumptuous assumption. For some of us we simply never left
the format. I'm still using audio equipment purchased 50-60 years ago
and have a large collection of 78s, 45s, and LPs as well as cassettes, >8-tracks, and CDs. (For video while I have a media server I also have
Beta, VHS, Laser Disc, and CED disk.)
There is a lot to be said for having physical media rather than depending
on streaming services where you really have no control and your favorites
may disappear at any time.
----
Roger Blake
On 2026-02-16 09:16:17 +0000, Daniel70 said:
On 15/02/2026 11:22 pm, Blueshirt wrote:
<Snip>
... CD, a lot of LPs, Cassettes and even a KiT version.)
"a KiT version"?? Is that something that the Knight Industries 2000 Car
can play?? ;-P
KITT = Knight Industries Two Thousand. :-)
(Or Knight Industries Three Thousand in the awful reboot series.)
On 2026-02-16 09:29:52 +0000, Daniel70 said:
On 16/02/2026 8:23 am, Your Name wrote:
On 2026-02-15 12:41:03 +0000, Blueshirt said:
Your Name wrote:
On 2026-02-14 12:11:39 +0000, Blueshirt said:
I've got tons of it; books, comics, LPs', cassettes, CDs, DVDs,
Blu-rays (etc.) but they sit on shelves and in boxes...
I've got lots of VHS tapes, DVDs, and books too, as well as a few
comics and audio-story casettes and vinyl records. Plus quite a few >>>>> boxed computer games and a ton of toys (mainly Star Wars).
Mine's mainly Doctor Who and Star Wars...
and I'm fairly sure the children/grandchildren will just dump the lot >>>>>> of it when they clear the house after I die.
Only if they are dumb or lazy. Such things in good condition could be >>>>> worth a lot of money (maybe not individually, but as a total amount). >>>>> :-)
A lot of my old nerdy stuff wouldn't be in the greatest condition...
all of my books and comics have been read a few times and the pages are >>>> yellowy. The VHS tapes and DVDs are ok as they are in plastic cases,
but I can't seem to give them away.
Star Wars VHS tapes sell for around US$10-$15 in used good condition
... a still factory sealed VHS tape of the original pre-"Episode IV"
movie did sell for US$2,500 though.
Sorry!! "pre-"Episode IV"?? Do you mean the prequels, Ep I, Ep II and Ep III??
And, in my opinion, there IS no "Episode IV"!! When I saw it at the
flicks, it was just "Star Wars".
That's the VHS version that was sold factory sealed at auction - it
doesn't have the "Episode IV" text in the opening crawl.
All of my records have been played, many, many times, and the sleeves >>>> would have the usual wear and tear. So not worth too much.
My few records haven't been used much. We haven't even had a record
player for at least 25 years, probably longer.
My modular Stereo system (Radio Amplifier, Cassette Player, Record
Player and CD Player) HASN'T been re-assembled since I moved into this
house almost ten years ago.
We have a mini-stereo system (rarely used) with a CD player and casette >tape. My car, being 30+ years old, also has its original radio cassette
tape player in it.
Our old vinyl record player system was gotten rid of years ago because
it was "never used - just taking up room and collecting dust".
Personally I would have kept it, but it wasn't my choice. Then again, I
only have maybe half a dozen vinyl records (the Star Wars Original
Trilogy audio dramas, a Watership Down audio drama, and a couple of
others).
On 2026-02-16 18:09:29 +0000, Roger Blake said:
On 2026-02-14, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
I've lost count of the number of times that it's been claimed that
there is a "vinyl comeback". If there's a more pointless analog format
to make a comeback, it has to be vinyl.
Sales figures and continuing releases of new material show vinyl to
be quite popular and growing each year. It wasn't supposed to happen,
but there it is.
Paper, newspaper and magazines, and printing things out was supposedly
going to die when the computer and then internet came along, but in
reality the sales of printers soared for a many years, although has
dimished more recently. Many newspaper and magazines have gone, but
there are still many others being printed every week and month.
To quote Mark Twain: "the reports of my death are greatly exaggerated."
Are people adopting a vinyl affectation just to signal some kind of
aversion to "digital sound"?
That's a presumptuous assumption. For some of us we simply never left
the format. I'm still using audio equipment purchased 50-60 years ago
and have a large collection of 78s, 45s, and LPs as well as cassettes,
8-tracks, and CDs. (For video while I have a media server I also have
Beta, VHS, Laser Disc, and CED disk.)
There is a lot to be said for having physical media rather than
depending on streaming services where you really have no control and
your favorites may disappear at any time.
Yep. I still buy my monthly computer magazine at the local shop. I
started with the first issue sold here (issue 3) and I'm up now to
issue 421, having only missed a few due to shipping problems in all the >years I've been buying it. They are all piled up in a bookcase. I also
still have a big box of the previous computer magazine issues I used to
buy before Commodore went bankrupt. :-)
On 2026-02-16, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
still have a big box of the previous computer magazine issues I used to
buy before Commodore went bankrupt. :-)
Speaking of things that weren't supposed to happen, Commodore has risen
from the dead and is now selling an updated version of the Commodore 64:
https://www.commodore.net
----
Roger Blake
On 2026-02-16 23:51:28 +0000, Roger Blake said:
On 2026-02-16, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
still have a big box of the previous computer magazine issues I used to
buy before Commodore went bankrupt. :-)
Speaking of things that weren't supposed to happen, Commodore has risen
from the dead and is now selling an updated version of the Commodore 64:
https://www.commodore.net
Sort-of. It's not really a "Commodore 64". It's a recreation - when you
look inside there's almost nothing in it, because much of it has been >"recreated" in fewer hardware chips. It also has modern ports for USB,
SD cards, etc. It could be good for nostalgia buffs perhaps, if it
wasn't so expensive.
It is much better than many of the previous attempts (and the so-called
"new Amiga" models) that are really just a standard Windows / Linux PCs >running a software emulator.
The new "Commodore" also has vague plans to remake the Amiga, but it
will again be a "recreation" and too expensive.
On 2026-02-16 09:16:17 +0000, Daniel70 said:
On 15/02/2026 11:22 pm, Blueshirt wrote:
<Snip>
... CD, a lot of LPs, Cassettes and even a KiT version.)
"a KiT version"?? Is that something that the Knight Industries 2000
Car can play?? ;-P
KITT = Knight Industries Two Thousand.-a :-)
(Or Knight Industries Three Thousand in the awful reboot series.)
On 13.02.26, Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
Nomen Nescio wrote:
https://cordcuttersnews.com/babylon-5-is-now-free-to-watch-on-youtube/
YouTube is the future of TV shows it seems!
I won't object! :)
Anyone found episode 2, "Midnight on the Firing Line?
Useless machine.
On 17/02/2026 8:57 am, Your Name wrote:
On 2026-02-16 09:16:17 +0000, Daniel70 said:
On 15/02/2026 11:22 pm, Blueshirt wrote:
<Snip>
... CD, a lot of LPs, Cassettes and even a KiT version.)
"a KiT version"?? Is that something that the Knight Industries 2000
Car can play?? ;-P
KITT = Knight Industries Two Thousand.-a :-)
Well, I was close!
(Or Knight Industries Three Thousand in the awful reboot series.)Must be "Yet to get here."!
----
Daniel70
On 2/16/26 2:07 AM, Mickmane wrote:
On 13.02.26, Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
Nomen Nescio wrote:
https://cordcuttersnews.com/babylon-5-is-now-free-to-watch-on-youtube/
YouTube is the future of TV shows it seems!
I won't object! :)
Anyone found episode 2, "Midnight on the Firing Line?
I have a complete set of 'Babylon 5' DVDs, The episode 'Midnight On The >Firing Line' is on disk 1, episode 1. The original air date is 1/26/94.
On 2026-02-17, The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
Useless machine.
It doesn't need to be useful, it is mainly for hobbyists to play around
with and for nostalgia purposes.
I still have an original C64 and 1541 drive that "ran when parked". Even
have the CP/M cartridge for it. Dual processors, woo-hoo! :) Of course
these days if you want to experience those old low-res games an emulator
will do the job nicely. (I won't be buying a new C64.)
----
Roger Blake
In article <plmdnYKLteBURA70nZ2dnZfqnPidnZ2d@giganews.com>,
Fred Ellis <fkellis@sticx.net> wrote:
On 2/16/26 2:07 AM, Mickmane wrote:
On 13.02.26, Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
Nomen Nescio wrote:
https://cordcuttersnews.com/babylon-5-is-now-free-to-watch-on-youtube/
YouTube is the future of TV shows it seems!
I won't object! :)
Anyone found episode 2, "Midnight on the Firing Line?
I have a complete set of 'Babylon 5' DVDs, The episode 'Midnight On The
Firing Line' is on disk 1, episode 1. The original air date is 1/26/94.
You must be from the USA.
On 17/02/2026 8:57 am, Your Name wrote:
On 2026-02-16 09:16:17 +0000, Daniel70 said:
On 15/02/2026 11:22 pm, Blueshirt wrote:
<Snip>
... CD, a lot of LPs, Cassettes and even a KiT version.)
"a KiT version"?? Is that something that the Knight Industries 2000 Car >>> can play?? ;-P
KITT = Knight Industries Two Thousand.a :-)
Well, I was close!
(Or Knight Industries Three Thousand in the awful reboot series.)
Must be "Yet to get here."!
On 2/16/26 2:07 AM, Mickmane wrote:
Anyone found episode 2, "Midnight on the Firing Line?
I have a complete set of 'Babylon 5' DVDs, The episode 'Midnight On
The Firing Line' is on disk 1, episode 1. The original air date is
1/26/94.
On 2026-02-16 09:29:52 +0000, Daniel70 said:
On 16/02/2026 8:23 am, Your Name wrote:
On 2026-02-15 12:41:03 +0000, Blueshirt said:
Your Name wrote:
On 2026-02-14 12:11:39 +0000, Blueshirt said:
I've got tons of it; books, comics, LPs', cassettes, CDs, DVDs,
Blu-rays (etc.) but they sit on shelves and in boxes...
I've got lots of VHS tapes, DVDs, and books too, as well as a few
comics and audio-story casettes and vinyl records. Plus quite a few >>>>> boxed computer games and a ton of toys (mainly Star Wars).
Mine's mainly Doctor Who and Star Wars...
and I'm fairly sure the children/grandchildren will just dump the >>>>>> lot of it when they clear the house after I die.
Only if they are dumb or lazy. Such things in good condition could
be worth a lot of money (maybe not individually, but as a total
amount). :-)
A lot of my old nerdy stuff wouldn't be in the greatest condition...
all of my books and comics have been read a few times and the pages
are yellowy. The VHS tapes and DVDs are ok as they are in plastic
cases, but I can't seem to give them away.
Star Wars VHS tapes sell for around US$10-$15 in used good condition
... a still factory sealed VHS tape of the original pre-"Episode IV"
movie did sell for US$2,500 though.
Sorry!! "pre-"Episode IV"?? Do you mean the prequels, Ep I, Ep II and
Ep III??
And, in my opinion, there IS no "Episode IV"!! When I saw it at the
flicks, it was just "Star Wars".
That's the VHS version that was sold factory sealed at auction - it
doesn't have the "Episode IV" text in the opening crawl.
Daniel70 wrote:
On 15/02/2026 11:53 pm, Blueshirt wrote:
Your Name wrote:Umm! Is that pencil to be used to re-wind the cassette??
New release audio casette tapes do exist
There's usually a cassette version of most music albums
these days. They generally only use the standard type I
ferro magnetic tape though, so high fidelity is not the
reason for them being released. They're limited edition
releases for music collectors.
All new cassette releases should come with a pencil included
for completeness...
Is your nickname Sherlock by any chance?
On 16/02/2026 8:49 pm, Blueshirt wrote:
Daniel70 wrote:
On 15/02/2026 11:53 pm, Blueshirt wrote:
All new cassette releases should come with a
pencil included for completeness...
Umm! Is that pencil to be used to re-wind the
cassette??
Is your nickname Sherlock by any chance?
Wat you talking about, Willis?? ;-P
On 2/16/26 9:46 PM, The Doctor wrote:
In article <plmdnYKLteBURA70nZ2dnZfqnPidnZ2d@giganews.com>,
Fred Ellis <fkellis@sticx.net> wrote:
On 2/16/26 2:07 AM, Mickmane wrote:
On 13.02.26, Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
Nomen Nescio wrote:
https://cordcuttersnews.com/babylon-5-is-now-free-to-watch-on-youtube/ >>>>
YouTube is the future of TV shows it seems!
I won't object! :)
Anyone found episode 2, "Midnight on the Firing Line?
I have a complete set of 'Babylon 5' DVDs, The episode 'Midnight On The
Firing Line' is on disk 1, episode 1. The original air date is 1/26/94. >>>
You must be from the USA.
Rodger on that. I have been a big fan of the show from the first day I
saw it.
On 2026-02-17 02:54:33 +0000, Daniel70 said:
On 17/02/2026 8:57 am, Your Name wrote:
On 2026-02-16 09:16:17 +0000, Daniel70 said:
On 15/02/2026 11:22 pm, Blueshirt wrote:
<Snip>
... CD, a lot of LPs, Cassettes and even a KiT version.)
"a KiT version"?? Is that something that the Knight Industries 2000 Car >>>> can play?? ;-P
KITT = Knight Industries Two Thousand.a :-)
Well, I was close!
(Or Knight Industries Three Thousand in the awful reboot series.)
Must be "Yet to get here."!
That was the garbage reboot in 2008 which used a Ford Mustang as KITT
and only lasted one season.
*BUT* there are rumours of another idiotic reboot attempt in the works. :-(
The original show was good, but all the subsequent releases have been >varying levels of garbage. I doubt any new reboot will be any better
either.
On 17.02.26, Fred Ellis <fkellis@sticx.net> wrote:
On 2/16/26 2:07 AM, Mickmane wrote:
https://cordcuttersnews.com/babylon-5-is-now-free-to-watch-on-youtube/
Anyone found episode 2, "Midnight on the Firing Line?
I have a complete set of 'Babylon 5' DVDs, The episode 'Midnight On
The Firing Line' is on disk 1, episode 1. The original air date is
1/26/94.
On youtube they labelled the episodes wrong. Pilot is #1, Midnight... is >#2, Soul Hunter is #3,...
Midnight... is missing on youtube, at least I couldn't find it there, so
I hope someone else did and has a link. :)
--
Mickmane
On 17/02/2026 9:05 am, Your Name wrote:
On 2026-02-16 09:29:52 +0000, Daniel70 said:
On 16/02/2026 8:23 am, Your Name wrote:
On 2026-02-15 12:41:03 +0000, Blueshirt said:
Your Name wrote:
On 2026-02-14 12:11:39 +0000, Blueshirt said:
I've got tons of it; books, comics, LPs', cassettes, CDs, DVDs,
Blu-rays (etc.) but they sit on shelves and in boxes...
I've got lots of VHS tapes, DVDs, and books too, as well as a few >>>>>> comics and audio-story casettes and vinyl records. Plus quite a few >>>>>> boxed computer games and a ton of toys (mainly Star Wars).
Mine's mainly Doctor Who and Star Wars...
and I'm fairly sure the children/grandchildren will just dump the >>>>>>> lot of it when they clear the house after I die.
Only if they are dumb or lazy. Such things in good condition could >>>>>> be worth a lot of money (maybe not individually, but as a total
amount). :-)
A lot of my old nerdy stuff wouldn't be in the greatest condition... >>>>> all of my books and comics have been read a few times and the pages >>>>> are yellowy. The VHS tapes and DVDs are ok as they are in plastic
cases, but I can't seem to give them away.
Star Wars VHS tapes sell for around US$10-$15 in used good condition
... a still factory sealed VHS tape of the original pre-"Episode IV"
movie did sell for US$2,500 though.
Sorry!! "pre-"Episode IV"?? Do you mean the prequels, Ep I, Ep II and
Ep III??
And, in my opinion, there IS no "Episode IV"!! When I saw it at the
flicks, it was just "Star Wars".
That's the VHS version that was sold factory sealed at auction - it
doesn't have the "Episode IV" text in the opening crawl.
... but what I'm referring to is seeing "Star Wars" at the flicks
(probably The Trak Cinema) in glorious HUGE Screen!!
----
Daniel70
On 16/02/2026 8:49 pm, Blueshirt wrote:
Daniel70 wrote:Wat you talking about, Willis?? ;-P
On 15/02/2026 11:53 pm, Blueshirt wrote:
Your Name wrote:Umm! Is that pencil to be used to re-wind the cassette??
New release audio casette tapes do exist
There's usually a cassette version of most music albums
these days. They generally only use the standard type I
ferro magnetic tape though, so high fidelity is not the
reason for them being released. They're limited edition
releases for music collectors.
All new cassette releases should come with a pencil included
for completeness...
Is your nickname Sherlock by any chance?
----
Daniel70
Daniel70 wrote:
On 16/02/2026 8:49 pm, Blueshirt wrote:
Daniel70 wrote:Wat you talking about, Willis?? ;-P
On 15/02/2026 11:53 pm, Blueshirt wrote:
Umm! Is that pencil to be used to re-wind the
All new cassette releases should come with a
pencil included for completeness...
cassette??
Is your nickname Sherlock by any chance?
Isn't Usenet great? From "Babylon 5" to "Diff'rent Strokes"
via Sherlock Holmes! Where else could you find that sort of
thing!
:-)
Daniel70 wrote:
On 16/02/2026 8:49 pm, Blueshirt wrote:
Daniel70 wrote:Wat you talking about, Willis?? ;-P
On 15/02/2026 11:53 pm, Blueshirt wrote:
Umm! Is that pencil to be used to re-wind the
All new cassette releases should come with a
pencil included for completeness...
cassette??
Is your nickname Sherlock by any chance?
Isn't Usenet great? From "Babylon 5" to "Diff'rent Strokes"
via Sherlock Holmes! Where else could you find that sort of
thing!
:-)
In article <20260216221010@news.eternal-september.org>,
Ever set up a FreeBSD box?
On 2/17/2026 3:42 AM, Blueshirt wrote:
Daniel70 wrote:
On 16/02/2026 8:49 pm, Blueshirt wrote:
Daniel70 wrote:Wat you talking about, Willis?? ;-P
On 15/02/2026 11:53 pm, Blueshirt wrote:
Umm! Is that pencil to be used to re-wind the
All new cassette releases should come with a
pencil included for completeness...
cassette??
Is your nickname Sherlock by any chance?
Isn't Usenet great? From "Babylon 5" to "Diff'rent Strokes"
via Sherlock Holmes! Where else could you find that sort of
thing!
:-)
Any sort of bar with regulars.
----
I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky >dirty old man.
On 2026-02-17, The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
In article <20260216221010@news.eternal-september.org>,
Ever set up a FreeBSD box?
I've played around with FreeBSD in the past (heck, I've worked
with ancient BSD 4.1 in the past), but getting lazy in my old
age I mainly use Linux Mint in recent years. For the most part
Mint "just works" for what I need without needing a lot of
tinkering.
----
Roger Blake
In article <6kKdnUxMbK1gdw70nZ2dnZfqn_GdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
Fred Ellis <fkellis@sticx.net> wrote:
On 2/16/26 9:46 PM, The Doctor wrote:
In article <plmdnYKLteBURA70nZ2dnZfqnPidnZ2d@giganews.com>,
Fred Ellis <fkellis@sticx.net> wrote:
On 2/16/26 2:07 AM, Mickmane wrote:
On 13.02.26, Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
Nomen Nescio wrote:
https://cordcuttersnews.com/babylon-5-is-now-free-to-watch-on-youtube/ >>>>>
YouTube is the future of TV shows it seems!
I won't object! :)
Anyone found episode 2, "Midnight on the Firing Line?
I have a complete set of 'Babylon 5' DVDs, The episode 'Midnight On The >>>> Firing Line' is on disk 1, episode 1. The original air date is 1/26/94. >>>>
You must be from the USA.
Rodger on that. I have been a big fan of the show from the first day I
saw it.
Noted the wrong date format of MM/DD/YYYY . The real format
is DD/MM/YYYY .
On 2/17/26 8:00 AM, The Doctor wrote:
In article <6kKdnUxMbK1gdw70nZ2dnZfqn_GdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
Fred Ellis <fkellis@sticx.net> wrote:
On 2/16/26 9:46 PM, The Doctor wrote:
In article <plmdnYKLteBURA70nZ2dnZfqnPidnZ2d@giganews.com>,
Fred Ellis <fkellis@sticx.net> wrote:
On 2/16/26 2:07 AM, Mickmane wrote:
On 13.02.26, Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
Nomen Nescio wrote:
https://cordcuttersnews.com/babylon-5-is-now-free-to-watch-on-youtube/ >>>>>>
YouTube is the future of TV shows it seems!
I won't object! :)
Anyone found episode 2, "Midnight on the Firing Line?
I have a complete set of 'Babylon 5' DVDs, The episode 'Midnight On The >>>>> Firing Line' is on disk 1, episode 1. The original air date is 1/26/94. >>>>>
You must be from the USA.
Rodger on that. I have been a big fan of the show from the first day I
saw it.
Noted the wrong date format of MM/DD/YYYY . The real format
is DD/MM/YYYY .
The Doctor, I agree with you. I don't understand why here in the U.S.
they do the date ass-backwards. When I was in the Army the date was >Day/Month/Year. To me it made logical sense.
On the DVD box the date was listed Month/Day/Year, instead of >Day/Month/Year. Oh well, I could never understand why the date is done
that way.
On 2/17/26 8:00 AM, The Doctor wrote:
In article <6kKdnUxMbK1gdw70nZ2dnZfqn_GdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
Fred Ellis <fkellis@sticx.net> wrote:
On 2/16/26 9:46 PM, The Doctor wrote:
In article <plmdnYKLteBURA70nZ2dnZfqnPidnZ2d@giganews.com>,
Fred Ellis <fkellis@sticx.net> wrote:
On 2/16/26 2:07 AM, Mickmane wrote:You must be from the USA.
On 13.02.26, Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
Nomen Nescio wrote:
https://cordcuttersnews.com/babylon-5-is-now-free-to-watch-on-youtube/ >>>>>>
YouTube is the future of TV shows it seems!
I won't object! :)
Anyone found episode 2, "Midnight on the Firing Line?
I have a complete set of 'Babylon 5' DVDs, The episode 'Midnight On The >>>>> Firing Line' is on disk 1, episode 1. The original air date is 1/26/94. >>>>
Rodger on that. I have been a big fan of the show from the first day I
saw it.
Noted the wrong date format of MM/DD/YYYY . The real format
is DD/MM/YYYY .
The Doctor, I agree with you. I don't understand why here in the U.S.
they do the date ass-backwards. When I was in the Army the date was Day/Month/Year. To me it made logical sense.
On the DVD box the date was listed Month/Day/Year, instead of Day/Month/Year. Oh well, I could never understand why the date is done
that way.
You must be from the USA.
Bar drunks included.
https://postimg.cc/8JKDz1HK
Daniel70 wrote:
On 16/02/2026 8:49 pm, Blueshirt wrote:
Daniel70 wrote:Wat you talking about, Willis?? ;-P
On 15/02/2026 11:53 pm, Blueshirt wrote:
Umm! Is that pencil to be used to re-wind the
All new cassette releases should come with a
pencil included for completeness...
cassette??
Is your nickname Sherlock by any chance?
Isn't Usenet great? From "Babylon 5" to "Diff'rent Strokes"
via Sherlock Holmes! Where else could you find that sort of
thing!
:-)
On 2/17/26 8:00 AM, The Doctor wrote:
In article <6kKdnUxMbK1gdw70nZ2dnZfqn_GdnZ2d@giganews.com>, Fred
Ellis <fkellis@sticx.net> wrote:
On 2/16/26 9:46 PM, The Doctor wrote:
In article <plmdnYKLteBURA70nZ2dnZfqnPidnZ2d@giganews.com>,
Fred Ellis <fkellis@sticx.net> wrote:
On 2/16/26 2:07 AM, Mickmane wrote:
On 13.02.26, Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
Nomen Nescio wrote:
https://cordcuttersnews.com/babylon-5-is-now-free-to-watch-on-youtube/ >>>>>>
YouTube is the future of TV shows it seems!
I won't object! :)
Anyone found episode 2, "Midnight on the Firing Line?
I have a complete set of 'Babylon 5' DVDs, The episode
'Midnight On The Firing Line' is on disk 1, episode 1. The
original air date is 1/26/94.
You must be from the USA.
Rodger on that. I have been a big fan of the show from the first
day I saw it.
Noted the wrong date format of MM/DD/YYYY . The real format is
DD/MM/YYYY .
The Doctor, I agree with you. I don't understand why here in the
U.S. they do the date ass-backwards. When I was in the Army the date
was Day/Month/Year. To me it made logical sense.
On the DVD box the date was listed Month/Day/Year, instead of Day/Month/Year. Oh well, I could never understand why the date is
done that way.
My son's a Zoomer, and he's definitely part of the privacy
movement. He refuses to use several major technologies.
On 2026-02-18 02:58:39 +0000, Fred Ellis said:
On 2/17/26 8:00 AM, The Doctor wrote:
In article <6kKdnUxMbK1gdw70nZ2dnZfqn_GdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
Fred Ellis <fkellis@sticx.net> wrote:
On 2/16/26 9:46 PM, The Doctor wrote:
In article <plmdnYKLteBURA70nZ2dnZfqnPidnZ2d@giganews.com>,
Fred Ellis <fkellis@sticx.net> wrote:
On 2/16/26 2:07 AM, Mickmane wrote:You must be from the USA.
On 13.02.26, Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
Nomen Nescio wrote:
https://cordcuttersnews.com/babylon-5-is-now-free-to-watch-on-youtube/ >>>>>>>
YouTube is the future of TV shows it seems!
I won't object! :)
Anyone found episode 2, "Midnight on the Firing Line?
I have a complete set of 'Babylon 5' DVDs, The episode 'Midnight On The >>>>>> Firing Line' is on disk 1, episode 1. The original air date is 1/26/94. >>>>>
Rodger on that. I have been a big fan of the show from the first day I >>>> saw it.
Noted the wrong date format of MM/DD/YYYY . The real format
is DD/MM/YYYY .
The Doctor, I agree with you. I don't understand why here in the U.S.
they do the date ass-backwards. When I was in the Army the date was
Day/Month/Year. To me it made logical sense.
On the DVD box the date was listed Month/Day/Year, instead of
Day/Month/Year. Oh well, I could never understand why the date is done
that way.
Basically because Americans are too lazy to say the word "of".
Proper English: "Today is the 18th of February, 2026."
American 'English': "Today is February 18th, 2026."
;-)
The real problem is that, like everything else, the rest of the world
is switching over to the silly Americanised dates. For example, the
local New Zealand Herald newspaper always has the date ass-backwards.
:-(
The Binky(Word used by paedophiles to indicate their joy of child sexual molestation) Doctor wrote:
You must be from the USA.
Will you ever move out of your mammy's basement, Binky(Word used by >paedophiles to indicate their joy of child sexual molestation)?
Bar drunks included.
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GUFFAW!
On 17/02/2026 10:42 pm, Blueshirt wrote:
Daniel70 wrote:""Diff'rent Strokes"" .... That was the name I couldn't think of ....
On 16/02/2026 8:49 pm, Blueshirt wrote:
Daniel70 wrote:Wat you talking about, Willis?? ;-P
On 15/02/2026 11:53 pm, Blueshirt wrote:
Umm! Is that pencil to be used to re-wind the
All new cassette releases should come with a
pencil included for completeness...
cassette??
Is your nickname Sherlock by any chance?
Isn't Usenet great? From "Babylon 5" to "Diff'rent Strokes"
via Sherlock Holmes! Where else could you find that sort of
thing!
:-)
cause I kept thinking of "The Bill Crosby Show" .... who's name I
couldn't think of, either, at that time!!
--
Daniel70
On 18/02/2026 1:58 pm, Fred Ellis wrote:
On 2/17/26 8:00 AM, The Doctor wrote:Yeah, the Yanks are doing this half-arsed as usual. If they were gunna
In article <6kKdnUxMbK1gdw70nZ2dnZfqn_GdnZ2d@giganews.com>, Fred
Ellis <fkellis@sticx.net> wrote:
On 2/16/26 9:46 PM, The Doctor wrote:
In article <plmdnYKLteBURA70nZ2dnZfqnPidnZ2d@giganews.com>,
Fred Ellis <fkellis@sticx.net> wrote:
On 2/16/26 2:07 AM, Mickmane wrote:
On 13.02.26, Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
Nomen Nescio wrote:
https://cordcuttersnews.com/babylon-5-is-now-free-to-watch-on-youtube/ >>>>>>>
YouTube is the future of TV shows it seems!
I won't object! :)
Anyone found episode 2, "Midnight on the Firing Line?
I have a complete set of 'Babylon 5' DVDs, The episode
'Midnight On The Firing Line' is on disk 1, episode 1. The
original air date is 1/26/94.
You must be from the USA.
Rodger on that. I have been a big fan of the show from the first
day I saw it.
Noted the wrong date format of MM/DD/YYYY . The real format is
DD/MM/YYYY .
The Doctor, I agree with you. I don't understand why here in the
U.S. they do the date ass-backwards. When I was in the Army the date
was Day/Month/Year. To me it made logical sense.
On the DVD box the date was listed Month/Day/Year, instead of
Day/Month/Year. Oh well, I could never understand why the date is
done that way.
do it proper they'd have gone Year/Month/Date!!
----
Daniel70
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The True Melissa wrote:
My son's a Zoomer, and he's definitely part of the privacy
movement. He refuses to use several major technologies.
It seems some kids are going back to using a pen and paper...
https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/parents-opt-kids-school-laptops-ask-pen-paper-rcna257158
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On 17/02/2026 10:42 pm, Blueshirt wrote:
Daniel70 wrote:
On 16/02/2026 8:49 pm, Blueshirt wrote:
Daniel70 wrote:
On 15/02/2026 11:53 pm, Blueshirt wrote:
All new cassette releases should come with a
pencil included for completeness...
Umm! Is that pencil to be used to re-wind the
cassette??
Is your nickname Sherlock by any chance?
Wat you talking about, Willis?? ;-P
Isn't Usenet great? From "Babylon 5" to "Diff'rent Strokes"
via Sherlock Holmes! Where else could you find that sort of
thing!
:-)
"Diff'rent Strokes" .... That was the name I couldn't think of ....
cause I kept thinking of "The Bill Crosby Show" .... who's name I
couldn't think of, either, at that time!!
On 2026-02-18 11:16:51 +0000, Daniel70 said:
On 17/02/2026 10:42 pm, Blueshirt wrote:
Daniel70 wrote:
On 16/02/2026 8:49 pm, Blueshirt wrote:
Daniel70 wrote:
On 15/02/2026 11:53 pm, Blueshirt wrote:
All new cassette releases should come with a
pencil included for completeness...
Umm! Is that pencil to be used to re-wind the
cassette??
Is your nickname Sherlock by any chance?
Wat you talking about, Willis?? ;-P
Isn't Usenet great? From "Babylon 5" to "Diff'rent Strokes"
via Sherlock Holmes! Where else could you find that sort of
thing!
:-)
"Diff'rent Strokes" .... That was the name I couldn't think of ....
cause I kept thinking of "The Bill Crosby Show" .... who's name I
couldn't think of, either, at that time!!
"Diff'rent Strokes" had two spin-off shows: "The Facts of Life" and the >lesser known "Hello, Larry".
There was also cross-overs of "Diff'rent Strokes" with "The Fresh
Prince of Bel-Air", "Amazing Stories", and "Silver Spoons". Plus David >Hasselhoff and KITT also appeared in an episode of "Diff'rent Strokes" >because Arnold was a fan of "Knight Rider".
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