• Re: Tis the Season

    From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to uk.media.tv.sf.drwho,rec.arts.drwho,alt.usage.english on Sat Jan 3 15:32:23 2026
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    In article <10jau65$16lgu$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 3/01/2026 9:27 pm, Peter Moylan wrote:
    On 03/01/26 21:19, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 3/01/2026 8:49 am, Peter Moylan wrote:

    (Why does your surname, 'Moylan', ring a bell with me each time I see >>>>> it??)

    I have some grounds for suspecting that one of my ancestors was a priest >>>> or a monk. So possibly he could have been a bellringer.

    Monk ... not so much. Priest ... possibly, Western Victoria, perhaps!
    Bellringer .... Nope!!

    In case it wasn't clear: I was talking about long-ago ancestors in
    Ireland, not in Western Victoria. I'm only a fourth generation Australian. >>
    I'm only a fourth generation Australian .... Pick ME!! >English/Irish/Croatian. Several First Fleeters .... and then GGFather
    came out here in about 1850 for the Gold Rush.

    What about Janet Feilding?

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,alt.usage.english,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sat Jan 3 15:32:39 2026
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    In article <mn.19097ea1f3687732.127094@snitoo>,
    Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> wrote:
    Your Name explained on 1/2/2026 :
    On 2026-01-03 06:14:48 +0000, Snidely said:

    Your Name presented the following explanation :
    On 2026-01-03 00:34:25 +0000, Snidely said:
    Friday, solar penguin murmurred ...
    Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> wrote:

    (Why does your surname, 'Moylan', ring a bell with me each time I see >>>>>>>> it??)

    I have some grounds for suspecting that one of my ancestors was a >>>>>>> priest
    or a monk. So possibly he could have been a bellringer.

    Not a very good priest or monk if he had descendants!

    But not a unique failing in European history.

    /dps

    From history, both ancient and current, it seems to be one of the "rules" >>>> of being a priest to screw everybody they can (both literally and
    figuratively).

    Of course, the scamming clergy simply "confess their sins" on their death >>>> bed and all is suposedly forgiven by their mythical God, so that's why >>>> they just do whatever they want until then ... and that's assuming any of >>>> them actually believe the pile of complete elephant-poo that they spout to
    their blinkered congregations in their churches.
    :-\

    And you, of course, are flawless, and never guilty of either scamming or >>> succumbing to temptation, so you're in an excellent position to posture >>> about other's moral posture.

    /dps

    I never claimed to be "flawless" ... but neither am I a hypocrite priest who
    goes around doing whatever (including ignore most of the so-called "10
    Commandments") I want just because I can supposedly "claim forgiveness" fromm
    a mythical God on my death bed.

    I am sure that your analysis is thorough and shows deep understanding.


    NOT!!!!

    /dps

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  • From Peter Moylan@peter@pmoylan.org to uk.media.tv.sf.drwho,rec.arts.drwho,alt.usage.english on Sun Jan 4 09:29:05 2026
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    On 03/01/26 21:27, Peter Moylan wrote:

    In case it wasn't clear: I was talking about long-ago ancestors in
    Ireland, not in Western Victoria. I'm only a fourth generation
    Australian.

    If anyone wants to quibble, that's not precisely right. All of my
    grandparents were born and lived in the Colony of Victoria (Australia
    was not yet a country, just a collection of colonies), and legally their
    status was "British subject". So was mine, come to think of it. The
    Nationality and Citizenship Act 1948 came into force in January 1949,
    when I was almost one year old. A grandfather clause then gave me (and my grandfathers) Australian citizenship.

    Something similar happened, at roughly the same time, in New Zealand,
    Canada, and South Africa.
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  • From Daniel70@daniel47@nomail.afraid.org to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sun Jan 4 23:43:01 2026
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    On 4/01/2026 2:27 am, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10jap2e$156ch$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 3/01/2026 7:53 am, Your Name wrote:
    On 2026-01-02 17:57:07 +0000, Hibou said:
    Le 02/01/2026 |a-a 15:37, The Doctor a |a--crit :
    Hibou wrote:

    [...] We native English speakers are lucky people.

    Exactly!

    Still how are the Scots doing to preserve Scottish Gaelic?

    Badly:

    <https://bellacaledonia.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/unnamed-1.png> >>>>
    There's no percentage scale there, but Gaelic speakers are currently
    about 1% of the population - and there's a question about how well
    they speak it. No-one in Scotland speaks Gaelic but not English.

    It is essentially impossible to preserve a language like Gaelic. If
    it's to handle all aspects of modern life, then it must acquire a mass >>>> of new words, and its nature changes. If one rejects that course and
    seeks to preserve it as is, then it becomes limited and obsolete.

    IMHO, it's no use being able to say, "Put some more peat on the fire,
    Donald" in Gaelic, and then having to resort to English to discuss
    Morag's doomscrolling on Facebook.

    The Maroi language here in New Zealand adds words, but often they're
    simply "pigeon-English"-like reworking of the English word. For example, >>> the Maori word for a car is simply "motoka" (i.e. a corruption of
    "motorcar").|e-a :-\

    As usual these days, there is all sorts of politicall correctness
    stupidity about trying to "save" the Maori language by having street
    signs in both languages, ranaming government departments (twice - first
    time to put the Maori version first, and again to put it second),
    forcing kids to learn Maori in school, etc. The reality is that it's a
    dying language for a reason, and even most Maori cannot and have no
    interest in speaking it.

    Here, in Australia, there are something like 500 Aboriginal Nations, so
    I'm guessing there are at least that many languages. And as the original
    tribes were nomadic, there has probably been a lot of intermingling ....
    of people AND languages.

    So in Aus, there is English and the Aboribinal languages.

    We saw thi is in DW - 4 to Doomsday.

    And I might guess, Binky, that YOUR reply is in neither "English nor the Aboribinal languages"(whatever the fuck that is).
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  • From Daniel70@daniel47@nomail.afraid.org to uk.media.tv.sf.drwho,rec.arts.drwho on Sun Jan 4 23:46:42 2026
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    On 4/01/2026 2:32 am, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10jau65$16lgu$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 3/01/2026 9:27 pm, Peter Moylan wrote:
    On 03/01/26 21:19, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 3/01/2026 8:49 am, Peter Moylan wrote:

    (Why does your surname, 'Moylan', ring a bell with me each time I see >>>>>> it??)

    I have some grounds for suspecting that one of my ancestors was a priest >>>>> or a monk. So possibly he could have been a bellringer.

    Monk ... not so much. Priest ... possibly, Western Victoria, perhaps!
    Bellringer .... Nope!!

    In case it wasn't clear: I was talking about long-ago ancestors in
    Ireland, not in Western Victoria. I'm only a fourth generation Australian. >>>
    I'm only a fourth generation Australian .... Pick ME!!
    English/Irish/Croatian. Several First Fleeters .... and then GGFather
    came out here in about 1850 for the Gold Rush.

    What about Janet Feilding?

    What about Her, Binky?? Do you remember seeing her on your plane from
    Britain to Canada, Binky??
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho on Sun Jan 4 19:50:57 2026
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    In article <10jdn8n$20dpl$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 4/01/2026 2:27 am, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10jap2e$156ch$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 3/01/2026 7:53 am, Your Name wrote:
    On 2026-01-02 17:57:07 +0000, Hibou said:
    Le 02/01/2026 |a-a 15:37, The Doctor a |a--crit :
    Hibou wrote:

    [...] We native English speakers are lucky people.

    Exactly!

    Still how are the Scots doing to preserve Scottish Gaelic?

    Badly:

    <https://bellacaledonia.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/unnamed-1.png> >>>>>
    There's no percentage scale there, but Gaelic speakers are currently >>>>> about 1% of the population - and there's a question about how well
    they speak it. No-one in Scotland speaks Gaelic but not English.

    It is essentially impossible to preserve a language like Gaelic. If
    it's to handle all aspects of modern life, then it must acquire a mass >>>>> of new words, and its nature changes. If one rejects that course and >>>>> seeks to preserve it as is, then it becomes limited and obsolete.

    IMHO, it's no use being able to say, "Put some more peat on the fire, >>>>> Donald" in Gaelic, and then having to resort to English to discuss
    Morag's doomscrolling on Facebook.

    The Maroi language here in New Zealand adds words, but often they're
    simply "pigeon-English"-like reworking of the English word. For example, >>>> the Maori word for a car is simply "motoka" (i.e. a corruption of
    "motorcar").|e-a :-\

    As usual these days, there is all sorts of politicall correctness
    stupidity about trying to "save" the Maori language by having street
    signs in both languages, ranaming government departments (twice - first >>>> time to put the Maori version first, and again to put it second),
    forcing kids to learn Maori in school, etc. The reality is that it's a >>>> dying language for a reason, and even most Maori cannot and have no
    interest in speaking it.

    Here, in Australia, there are something like 500 Aboriginal Nations, so
    I'm guessing there are at least that many languages. And as the original >>> tribes were nomadic, there has probably been a lot of intermingling .... >>> of people AND languages.

    So in Aus, there is English and the Aboribinal languages.

    We saw thi is in DW - 4 to Doomsday.

    And I might guess, Binky, that YOUR reply is in neither "English nor the
    ^^^^^<-PAedophile talker noted
    Aboribinal languages"(whatever the f*k that is).
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to uk.media.tv.sf.drwho,rec.arts.drwho on Sun Jan 4 19:51:27 2026
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    In article <10jdnfi$20dpl$2@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 4/01/2026 2:32 am, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <10jau65$16lgu$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 3/01/2026 9:27 pm, Peter Moylan wrote:
    On 03/01/26 21:19, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 3/01/2026 8:49 am, Peter Moylan wrote:

    (Why does your surname, 'Moylan', ring a bell with me each time I see >>>>>>> it??)

    I have some grounds for suspecting that one of my ancestors was a priest >>>>>> or a monk. So possibly he could have been a bellringer.

    Monk ... not so much. Priest ... possibly, Western Victoria, perhaps! >>>>> Bellringer .... Nope!!

    In case it wasn't clear: I was talking about long-ago ancestors in
    Ireland, not in Western Victoria. I'm only a fourth generation Australian. >>>>
    I'm only a fourth generation Australian .... Pick ME!!
    English/Irish/Croatian. Several First Fleeters .... and then GGFather
    came out here in about 1850 for the Gold Rush.

    What about Janet Feilding?

    What about Her, Binky?? Do you remember seeing her on your plane from
    ^^^^^<-Paedophile talker noted
    Britain to Canada, Binky??
    ^^^^^<-Paedophile talker noted
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