• Alley Oop: Tags in the back of your shirt

    From Lynn McGuire@lynnmcguire5@gmail.com to rec.arts.sf.written,rec.arts.comics.strips on Tue Oct 28 14:47:42 2025
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    Alley Oop: Tags in the back of your shirt
    https://www.gocomics.com/alley-oop/2025/10/27

    I hate them too.

    Lynn

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  • From Bobbie Sellers@bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com to rec.arts.sf.written,rec.arts.comics.strips on Tue Oct 28 14:24:34 2025
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    On 10/28/25 12:47, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    Alley Oop: Tags in the back of your shirt
    -a-a https://www.gocomics.com/alley-oop/2025/10/27

    I hate them too.

    Lynn

    Opp can scarely use scissors to remove them but what is your
    excuse. Remember when a new man's shirt was full of pins? Maybe
    your wife, mother, or significant other took them out.

    Thanks for Opp by the way.

    bliss
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  • From Lynn McGuire@lynnmcguire5@gmail.com to rec.arts.sf.written,rec.arts.comics.strips on Tue Oct 28 17:45:19 2025
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    On 10/28/2025 4:24 PM, Bobbie Sellers wrote:


    On 10/28/25 12:47, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    Alley Oop: Tags in the back of your shirt
    -a-a-a https://www.gocomics.com/alley-oop/2025/10/27

    I hate them too.

    Lynn

    -a-a-a-aOpp can scarely use scissors to remove them but what is your excuse.-a Remember when a new man's shirt was full of pins? Maybe
    your wife, mother, or significant other took them out.

    -a-a-a-aThanks for Opp by the way.

    -a-a-a-abliss

    I have not bought a new shirt with pins in it for over a decade now. I usually get my shirts from Lands End but they dropped the pins over a
    decade ago. My wife of 43 years would remove the pins if I asked her
    but, I would never do that.

    I have been tempted to remove the tags that annoy me but have yet to do
    so. I hate defacing a shirt like that.

    Lynn

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  • From ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan@tednolan to rec.arts.sf.written,rec.arts.comics.strips on Wed Oct 29 02:15:48 2025
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    In article <10drcak$2ergt$1@dont-email.me>,
    Bobbie Sellers <blissInSanFrancisco@mouse-potato.com> wrote:


    On 10/28/25 12:47, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    Alley Oop: Tags in the back of your shirt
    -a-a https://www.gocomics.com/alley-oop/2025/10/27

    I hate them too.

    Lynn

    Opp can scarely use scissors to remove them but what is your
    excuse. Remember when a new man's shirt was full of pins? Maybe
    your wife, mother, or significant other took them out.

    Thanks for Opp by the way.

    bliss

    Shirts are still full of pins as far as I know. I missed a couple
    in the last batch.

    I'm neutral on tags in shirts, but I miss them in briefs. When it's
    dark and I'm half asleep, I need some clues.
    --
    columbiaclosings.com
    What's not in Columbia anymore..
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  • From Cryptoengineer@petertrei@gmail.com to rec.arts.sf.written,rec.arts.comics.strips on Tue Oct 28 22:49:52 2025
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    On 10/28/2025 5:24 PM, Bobbie Sellers wrote:


    On 10/28/25 12:47, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    Alley Oop: Tags in the back of your shirt
    -a-a-a https://www.gocomics.com/alley-oop/2025/10/27

    I hate them too.

    Lynn

    -a-a-a-aOpp can scarely use scissors to remove them but what is your excuse.-a Remember when a new man's shirt was full of pins? Maybe
    your wife, mother, or significant other took them out.

    -a-a-a-aThanks for Opp by the way.

    I buy a new formal white shirt or a tux shirt every year or so.

    Those are still full of pins.

    pt
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  • From Paul S Person@psperson@old.netcom.invalid to rec.arts.sf.written,rec.arts.comics.strips on Wed Oct 29 09:09:44 2025
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    On Tue, 28 Oct 2025 14:24:34 -0700, Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote:
    On 10/28/25 12:47, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    Alley Oop: Tags in the back of your shirt
    aa https://www.gocomics.com/alley-oop/2025/10/27

    I hate them too.

    Lynn

    Opp can scarely use scissors to remove them but what is your
    excuse. Remember when a new man's shirt was full of pins? Maybe
    your wife, mother, or significant other took them out.
    Pins, collar stiffeners, plastic things ... the list is endless.
    Getting outer garments ready for use is an adventure in wasted time.
    Oh, and the new long-sleeved shirts I bought last year came with ...
    snaps ... instead of buttons. I guess I should have been paying more
    attention when I ordered them.
    --
    "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
    Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
    Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"
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  • From Cryptoengineer@petertrei@gmail.com to rec.arts.sf.written,rec.arts.comics.strips on Wed Oct 29 14:33:52 2025
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    On 10/29/2025 12:09 PM, Paul S Person wrote:
    On Tue, 28 Oct 2025 14:24:34 -0700, Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote:

    On 10/28/25 12:47, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    Alley Oop: Tags in the back of your shirt
    -a-a https://www.gocomics.com/alley-oop/2025/10/27

    I hate them too.

    Lynn

    Opp can scarely use scissors to remove them but what is your
    excuse. Remember when a new man's shirt was full of pins? Maybe
    your wife, mother, or significant other took them out.

    Pins, collar stiffeners, plastic things ... the list is endless.

    Getting outer garments ready for use is an adventure in wasted time.

    Oh, and the new long-sleeved shirts I bought last year came with ...
    snaps ... instead of buttons. I guess I should have been paying more attention when I ordered them.

    The thing that bugs me is that men's formal jackets come with all
    the pockets sewn up.

    I recently bought a very nice Harris Tweed jacket at Walker Slater
    in London. They offered to open the pockets. It took almost 10
    minutes.

    pt
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  • From Dimensional Traveler@dtravel@sonic.net to rec.arts.sf.written,rec.arts.comics.strips on Wed Oct 29 18:26:02 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.comics.strips

    On 10/29/2025 9:09 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
    On Tue, 28 Oct 2025 14:24:34 -0700, Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote:

    On 10/28/25 12:47, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    Alley Oop: Tags in the back of your shirt
    -a-a https://www.gocomics.com/alley-oop/2025/10/27

    I hate them too.

    Lynn

    Opp can scarely use scissors to remove them but what is your
    excuse. Remember when a new man's shirt was full of pins? Maybe
    your wife, mother, or significant other took them out.

    Pins, collar stiffeners, plastic things ... the list is endless.

    Getting outer garments ready for use is an adventure in wasted time.

    Oh, and the new long-sleeved shirts I bought last year came with ...
    snaps ... instead of buttons. I guess I should have been paying more attention when I ordered them.

    Snaps are easier to deal with one handed.
    --
    I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
    dirty old man.
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  • From Paul S Person@psperson@old.netcom.invalid to rec.arts.sf.written,rec.arts.comics.strips on Thu Oct 30 08:32:49 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.comics.strips

    On Wed, 29 Oct 2025 14:33:52 -0400, Cryptoengineer
    <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 10/29/2025 12:09 PM, Paul S Person wrote:
    On Tue, 28 Oct 2025 14:24:34 -0700, Bobbie Sellers
    <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote:

    On 10/28/25 12:47, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    Alley Oop: Tags in the back of your shirt
    aa https://www.gocomics.com/alley-oop/2025/10/27

    I hate them too.

    Lynn

    Opp can scarely use scissors to remove them but what is your
    excuse. Remember when a new man's shirt was full of pins? Maybe
    your wife, mother, or significant other took them out.

    Pins, collar stiffeners, plastic things ... the list is endless.

    Getting outer garments ready for use is an adventure in wasted time.

    Oh, and the new long-sleeved shirts I bought last year came with ...
    snaps ... instead of buttons. I guess I should have been paying more
    attention when I ordered them.

    The thing that bugs me is that men's formal jackets come with all
    the pockets sewn up.

    I recently bought a very nice Harris Tweed jacket at Walker Slater
    in London. They offered to open the pockets. It took almost 10
    minutes.
    I am reminded of various things in books/movies about a day, a while
    back, when less-than-wealthy types would purchase (or rent) collars,
    cuffs, and a shirt-front and then use a jacket to cover everything
    else.
    So that they could appear to be wearing a full shirt on their budget.
    I wonder how much of the cardboard/plastic stuff dates back to those
    days and were originally intended (all cardboard at the time, of
    course) to help the various forms keep their shape.
    And, of course, there's always Elmer Fudd as orchestra director with
    his shirt-front flopping up. Without detachable shirt fronts, this
    wouldn't have made any sense to the audience.
    As to sown pockets -- gentlemen simply do not put things in their coat
    pockets. The very idea of using them! Or, rather, didn't way back when
    sewing them shut became common practice.
    Indeed, I'm not at all sure that the Army Greens jackets didn't have
    /their/ pockets sown shut back in the late 60s/mid-70s.
    It probably took ten minutes because they did it very very carefully.
    So this may be another example of the Dead Hand of Tradition.
    --
    "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
    Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
    Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"
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  • From Paul S Person@psperson@old.netcom.invalid to rec.arts.sf.written,rec.arts.comics.strips on Thu Oct 30 08:25:26 2025
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    On Wed, 29 Oct 2025 18:26:02 -0700, Dimensional Traveler
    <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 10/29/2025 9:09 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
    On Tue, 28 Oct 2025 14:24:34 -0700, Bobbie Sellers
    <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote:

    On 10/28/25 12:47, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    Alley Oop: Tags in the back of your shirt
    aa https://www.gocomics.com/alley-oop/2025/10/27

    I hate them too.

    Lynn

    Opp can scarely use scissors to remove them but what is your
    excuse. Remember when a new man's shirt was full of pins? Maybe
    your wife, mother, or significant other took them out.

    Pins, collar stiffeners, plastic things ... the list is endless.

    Getting outer garments ready for use is an adventure in wasted time.

    Oh, and the new long-sleeved shirts I bought last year came with ...
    snaps ... instead of buttons. I guess I should have been paying more
    attention when I ordered them.

    Snaps are easier to deal with one handed.
    If you say so.
    I'm more concerned about their longevity than their ease-of-use.
    I replaced the prior shirts because the red one (of course -- it's
    /always/ the red one that does this first) wore out in the sleeve.
    --
    "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
    Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
    Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"
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  • From danny burstein@dannyb@panix.com to rec.arts.sf.written,rec.arts.comics.strips on Thu Oct 30 15:43:16 2025
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    In <er07gkpkescr93n6916js8dleof91iv8pg@4ax.com> Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> writes:

    [snip]
    The thing that bugs me is that men's formal jackets come with all
    the pockets sewn up.
    .....
    As to sewn pockets -- gentlemen simply do not put things in their coat >pockets. The very idea of using them! Or, rather, didn't way back when
    sewing them shut became common practice.

    In some article (no way Icould track it down...) the Top Cop recalls
    how when he busted Crime Boss he noticed the crook had sewn all
    the pockets shut.

    When he asked why, the gangster replied "so you can't plant
    stuff on me!"
    --
    _____________________________________________________
    Knowledge may be power, but communications is the key
    dannyb@panix.com
    [to foil spammers, my address has been double rot-13 encoded]
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  • From Cryptoengineer@petertrei@gmail.com to rec.arts.sf.written,rec.arts.comics.strips on Thu Oct 30 13:24:31 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.comics.strips

    On 10/30/2025 11:32 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
    On Wed, 29 Oct 2025 14:33:52 -0400, Cryptoengineer
    <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 10/29/2025 12:09 PM, Paul S Person wrote:
    On Tue, 28 Oct 2025 14:24:34 -0700, Bobbie Sellers
    <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote:

    On 10/28/25 12:47, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    Alley Oop: Tags in the back of your shirt
    -a-a https://www.gocomics.com/alley-oop/2025/10/27

    I hate them too.

    Lynn

    Opp can scarely use scissors to remove them but what is your
    excuse. Remember when a new man's shirt was full of pins? Maybe
    your wife, mother, or significant other took them out.

    Pins, collar stiffeners, plastic things ... the list is endless.

    Getting outer garments ready for use is an adventure in wasted time.

    Oh, and the new long-sleeved shirts I bought last year came with ...
    snaps ... instead of buttons. I guess I should have been paying more
    attention when I ordered them.

    The thing that bugs me is that men's formal jackets come with all
    the pockets sewn up.

    I recently bought a very nice Harris Tweed jacket at Walker Slater
    in London. They offered to open the pockets. It took almost 10
    minutes.

    I am reminded of various things in books/movies about a day, a while
    back, when less-than-wealthy types would purchase (or rent) collars,
    cuffs, and a shirt-front and then use a jacket to cover everything
    else.

    So that they could appear to be wearing a full shirt on their budget.

    I wonder how much of the cardboard/plastic stuff dates back to those
    days and were originally intended (all cardboard at the time, of
    course) to help the various forms keep their shape.

    And, of course, there's always Elmer Fudd as orchestra director with
    his shirt-front flopping up. Without detachable shirt fronts, this
    wouldn't have made any sense to the audience.

    As to sown pockets -- gentlemen simply do not put things in their coat pockets. The very idea of using them! Or, rather, didn't way back when
    sewing them shut became common practice.

    You are so wrong! Victorian men literally had more pockets than they
    knew what to do with, and they used them.

    Entertaining video on the subject:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEgnqrBLlQ0

    Indeed, I'm not at all sure that the Army Greens jackets didn't have
    /their/ pockets sown shut back in the late 60s/mid-70s.

    It probably took ten minutes because they did it very very carefully.

    So this may be another example of the Dead Hand of Tradition.

    I just checked. The jacket has 7 pockets, as does my suit jacket.
    My tux jacket gets away with just 6.

    Some fashionistas dissed my jacket for not having a ticket pocket
    as well. (A smallish external pocket above the right side pocket,
    intended for train/bus/theatre tickets).

    pt

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  • From Cryptoengineer@petertrei@gmail.com to rec.arts.sf.written,rec.arts.comics.strips on Thu Oct 30 14:26:15 2025
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    On 10/30/2025 11:32 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
    On Wed, 29 Oct 2025 14:33:52 -0400, Cryptoengineer
    <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 10/29/2025 12:09 PM, Paul S Person wrote:
    On Tue, 28 Oct 2025 14:24:34 -0700, Bobbie Sellers
    <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote:

    On 10/28/25 12:47, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    Alley Oop: Tags in the back of your shirt
    -a-a https://www.gocomics.com/alley-oop/2025/10/27

    I hate them too.

    Lynn

    Opp can scarely use scissors to remove them but what is your
    excuse. Remember when a new man's shirt was full of pins? Maybe
    your wife, mother, or significant other took them out.

    Pins, collar stiffeners, plastic things ... the list is endless.

    Getting outer garments ready for use is an adventure in wasted time.

    Oh, and the new long-sleeved shirts I bought last year came with ...
    snaps ... instead of buttons. I guess I should have been paying more
    attention when I ordered them.

    The thing that bugs me is that men's formal jackets come with all
    the pockets sewn up.

    I recently bought a very nice Harris Tweed jacket at Walker Slater
    in London. They offered to open the pockets. It took almost 10
    minutes.

    I am reminded of various things in books/movies about a day, a while
    back, when less-than-wealthy types would purchase (or rent) collars,
    cuffs, and a shirt-front and then use a jacket to cover everything
    else.

    So that they could appear to be wearing a full shirt on their budget.

    I wonder how much of the cardboard/plastic stuff dates back to those
    days and were originally intended (all cardboard at the time, of
    course) to help the various forms keep their shape.

    And, of course, there's always Elmer Fudd as orchestra director with
    his shirt-front flopping up. Without detachable shirt fronts, this
    wouldn't have made any sense to the audience.

    This item is known as a 'dickey'. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dickey_%28garment%29


    pt
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