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    From Lynn McGuire@lynnmcguire5@gmail.com to rec.arts.sf.written,rec.arts.comics.strips on Mon Oct 27 18:08:01 2025
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    xkcd: rCLDocument ForgeryrCY
    https://www.xkcd.com/3160/

    I need to do this ! Many of my customer assume that I have a PhD in
    Chemical Engineering and are surprised when they find out that I do not.

    Explained at:
    https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/3160:_Document_Forgery

    Lynn

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  • From Jay Morris@morrisj@epsilon3.me to rec.arts.sf.written,rec.arts.comics.strips on Mon Oct 27 20:19:40 2025
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    On 10/27/2025 6:08 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    xkcd: rCLDocument ForgeryrCY
    -a-a https://www.xkcd.com/3160/

    I need to do this !-a Many of my customer assume that I have a PhD in Chemical Engineering and are surprised when they find out that I do not.

    Explained at:
    -a-a https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/3160:_Document_Forgery

    Lynn


    For years I had a Microsoft Certified Software Engineer in Minesweeper
    hanging in my cubicle amongst the others. No one ever said a thing.
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  • From Paul S Person@psperson@old.netcom.invalid to rec.arts.sf.written,rec.arts.comics.strips on Tue Oct 28 08:56:03 2025
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    On Mon, 27 Oct 2025 18:08:01 -0500, Lynn McGuire
    <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
    xkcd: oDocument Forgeryo
    https://www.xkcd.com/3160/

    I need to do this ! Many of my customer assume that I have a PhD in >Chemical Engineering and are surprised when they find out that I do not. Knowledge is more important than paperwork.
    --
    "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
    Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
    Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"
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  • From Cryptoengineer@petertrei@gmail.com to rec.arts.sf.written,rec.arts.comics.strips on Tue Oct 28 13:08:16 2025
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    On 10/28/2025 11:56 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
    On Mon, 27 Oct 2025 18:08:01 -0500, Lynn McGuire
    <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

    xkcd: rCLDocument ForgeryrCY
    https://www.xkcd.com/3160/

    I need to do this ! Many of my customer assume that I have a PhD in
    Chemical Engineering and are surprised when they find out that I do not.

    Knowledge is more important than paperwork.

    Except for HR departments.

    4 times in my career I was accused of faking my resume with a fake
    degree. It was always the same problem: I attended university at
    the University of London, in the UK, and US checkers didn't have
    a cluse as to how to check that. In each case, I had to pay the
    University to send an official letter confirming my graduation.

    The last time was over 30 years after graduation, and I had been
    working as a software engineer for decades. My degree is in
    Biochemistry, and so irrelevant.

    pt



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  • From Lynn McGuire@lynnmcguire5@gmail.com to rec.arts.sf.written,rec.arts.comics.strips on Tue Oct 28 14:50:00 2025
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    On 10/28/2025 12:08 PM, Cryptoengineer wrote:
    On 10/28/2025 11:56 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
    On Mon, 27 Oct 2025 18:08:01 -0500, Lynn McGuire
    <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

    xkcd: rCLDocument ForgeryrCY
    -a-a-a https://www.xkcd.com/3160/

    I need to do this !-a Many of my customer assume that I have a PhD in
    Chemical Engineering and are surprised when they find out that I do not.

    Knowledge is more important than paperwork.

    Except for HR departments.

    4 times in my career I was accused of faking my resume with a fake
    degree. It was always the same problem: I attended university at
    the University of London, in the UK, and US checkers didn't have
    a cluse as to how to check that. In each case, I had to pay the
    University to send an official letter confirming my graduation.

    The last time was over 30 years after graduation, and I had been
    working as a software engineer for decades. My degree is in
    Biochemistry, and so irrelevant.

    pt

    We had a graphics programmer back in the dark ages of programming, the
    1980s, with an English degree. He was great until he started liquid
    lunches. I rapidly learned if I needed some help to get it in the morning.

    Lynn

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  • From William Hyde@wthyde1953@gmail.com to rec.arts.sf.written,rec.arts.comics.strips on Tue Oct 28 16:15:36 2025
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    Paul S Person wrote:
    On Mon, 27 Oct 2025 18:08:01 -0500, Lynn McGuire
    <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

    xkcd: rCLDocument ForgeryrCY
    https://www.xkcd.com/3160/

    I need to do this ! Many of my customer assume that I have a PhD in
    Chemical Engineering and are surprised when they find out that I do not.

    Knowledge is more important than paperwork.


    So it should be. And when you own the company, it is. However:

    A friend at NASA had a number of scientific publications to his name,
    easily more than arise from a PhD, but was blocked for further promotion
    in the civil service for lack of that piece of paper.

    So he took one of the projects he was contemplating and turned it into a
    PhD thesis. Promotion followed, and a lucrative private sector
    post-NASA position which would not have been available to a "Mr".


    For an assistant professor of meteorology position we hired someone with almost no experience in the field, with no coursework, no thesis, and
    few publications. But he had a PhD in condensed matter physics, which
    was qualification enough. He turned out to be a very successful hire, a credit to the department and university.

    But without that doctorate he wouldn't have made the short list, even if
    he had more publications than was the case.

    In C. P. Snow's novel "The Masters" (1937) Oxford dons get a bit snide
    about "Dr" Jago's title. They see a doctorate as something between a
    piece of unnecessary frivolity and an ego-trip. I am old enough that I
    had a few professors who did not have a doctorate or real-world
    equivalent. They were no better or worse on average than the other professors.


    William Hyde
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  • From Lynn McGuire@lynnmcguire5@gmail.com to rec.arts.sf.written,rec.arts.comics.strips on Tue Oct 28 15:48:16 2025
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    On 10/28/2025 3:15 PM, William Hyde wrote:
    Paul S Person wrote:
    On Mon, 27 Oct 2025 18:08:01 -0500, Lynn McGuire
    <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

    xkcd: rCLDocument ForgeryrCY
    -a-a-a https://www.xkcd.com/3160/

    I need to do this !-a Many of my customer assume that I have a PhD in
    Chemical Engineering and are surprised when they find out that I do not.

    Knowledge is more important than paperwork.


    So it should be. And when you own the company, it is.-a However:

    A friend at NASA had a number of scientific publications to his name,
    easily more than arise from a PhD, but was blocked for further promotion
    in the civil service for lack of that piece of paper.

    So he took one of the projects he was contemplating and turned it into a
    PhD thesis.-a Promotion followed, and a lucrative private sector post-
    NASA position which would not have been available to a "Mr".


    For an assistant professor of meteorology position we hired someone with almost no experience in the field, with no coursework, no thesis, and
    few publications.-a But he had a PhD in condensed matter physics, which
    was qualification enough.-a He turned out to be a very successful hire, a credit to the department and university.

    But without that doctorate he wouldn't have made the short list, even if
    he had more publications than was the case.

    In C. P. Snow's novel "The Masters" (1937) Oxford dons get a bit snide
    about "Dr" Jago's title.-a They see a doctorate as something between a
    piece of unnecessary frivolity and an ego-trip.-a I am old enough that I
    had a few professors who did not have-a a doctorate or real-world equivalent.-a They were no better or worse on average than the other professors.


    William Hyde

    My grandfather taught drafting at TAMU with a BS Industrial Engineering
    degree from 1938 to 1970. He got his MS in Industrial Engineering
    around 1950 or so. He became the assistant Engineering College Dean in
    1970 because he was running the Cooperative Work and High School JETS
    programs on the side. When he retired in 1976 they replaced him with
    three PhDs.

    Grandad helped 6,000 Aggie Engineering students find coop jobs so they
    could stay in school. He had the biggest Rolodex on his desk that I
    ever saw in my life. He would flip around his Rolodex when a broke engineering student came in, call a former engineering student, and have
    a coop job for them in less than an hour.

    A couple of years later in 1978, one of the new drafting PhDs told me
    that he knew my grandfather well and that I was not to his level of
    drafting, especially in lettering. I was not hurt, I liked
    thermodynamics. I could have cared less about drafting.

    Lynn

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