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On 2025-10-28 15:46:35 +0000, Paul S Person said:

On Tue, 28 Oct 2025 18:45:48 +1300, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
wrote:

On 2025-10-28 00:08:37 +0000, Your Name said:

On 2025-10-27 23:27:42 +0000, Bobbie Sellers said:

On 10/27/25 16:05, Scott Lurndal wrote:

Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> writes:

On 2025-10-27 15:36:44 +0000, Paul S Person said:

This is unlikely to happen with water meters -- at least here -- >>>>>>> because they are mostly buried in the ground and getting a wireless >>>>>>> signal out might be difficult.

Most water meters here are in boxes* in the garden (for houses anyway). >>>>>> The boxes have an easily removeable lid so the meter reader can quickly >>>>>> access them to read the dial numbers. Technically it should be
relatively easy to either have a cellular / wi-fi meter that can
connect.

Technically, such radio device would require power, something that is >>>>> not generally present at the water company valve box.

Easily if expensively remedied with a inline turbine to generate the >>>> power to deal with the radio device.

bliss

Or simply a wire from the house mains supply, appropriately lowered

the smart meters' power requirement of course. Power and water

services>> (along with ye olde landline phone) are often fairly close
together>> anyway to save on digging multiple trenches.

Or, even easier, just put the smart meter inside the house where

mains supply enters the building. (External garden taps might be

problem if the pipes branch off befoer entering the house.)

Up here, that would rather confuse the distinction between "City
Utilities' responsibility" and "homeowner's/landlord's"
responsibility.

Then again, there /is/ a simple shut-down where the water enters our
house. For use when needed, obviously.

The houses around here have two shut-off points - one in the water
meter box and another where water pipe enters the house (usually behind
a panel in the garage's external wall). That's how we were able to out
our leak was somewhere in the short pipe between the meter and the
house, and not inside the house itself.

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Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

The houses around here have two shut-off points - one in the water
meter box and another where water pipe enters the house (usually behind
a panel in the garage's external wall). That's how we were able to out
our leak was somewhere in the short pipe between the meter and the
house, and not inside the house itself.

Right, but the meter is a demarcation point between the piping that you are responsible for and the piping that the city is responsible for. If there
is a leak on your side of the meter, you are legally liable for the cost of that water. If there is a leak on the city side, they are liable for it.

Not so much a worry when all the piping is above ground, but a big deal when the piping is hidden underground and you could be losing hundreds of gallons without realizing it.
--scott
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