• X-Men 97 Showrunner BUSTS Marvel, Exposes WHY So Many MCU Projects FAIL | Major Disclosures Leaked!

    From Ubiquitous@weberm@polaris.net to rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.animation,rec.arts.comics.marvel.universe,rec.arts.disney.animation,rec.arts.sf.tv on Fri Aug 8 04:30:43 2025
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    The Creator and Producer of X-Men '97, Beau DeMayo, went on something of a posting binge on X Saturday, describing in detail the problems he had with Marvel executives while trying to do a comic book show that respected fans
    and the source material. In the process, he revealed some major truths about what goes on behind the scenes at Marvel, and it explains a LOT about why so many MCU projects go wrong. This is a MUST SEE folks, and an inspiration - clearly Beau DeMayo gets it, and we need more people like him in Hollywood! #marvel #mcu #disney

    https://youtu.be/ijrMi6HhGlU?si=j4HnsJ8x2kWDTcBt

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    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    The Creator and Producer of X-Men '97, Beau DeMayo, went on something of a posting binge on X Saturday, describing in detail the problems he had with Marvel executives while trying to do a comic book show that respected fans and the source material. In the process, he revealed some major truths about
    what goes on behind the scenes at Marvel, and it explains a LOT about why so many MCU projects go wrong. This is a MUST SEE folks, and an inspiration - clearly Beau DeMayo gets it, and we need more people like him in Hollywood! #marvel #mcu #disney

    https://youtu.be/ijrMi6HhGlU?si=j4HnsJ8x2kWDTcBt


    IrCOve said all of this before, many times, right here.
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  • From Ubiquitous@weberm@polaris.net to rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.animation,rec.arts.comics.marvel.universe,rec.arts.disney.animation,rec.arts.sf.tv on Fri Aug 8 13:05:26 2025
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    anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

    The Creator and Producer of X-Men '97, Beau DeMayo, went on something of a >> posting binge on X Saturday, describing in detail the problems he had with >> Marvel executives while trying to do a comic book show that respected fans >> and the source material. In the process, he revealed some major truths
    about what goes on behind the scenes at Marvel, and it explains a LOT
    about why so many MCU projects go wrong. This is a MUST SEE folks, and
    an inspiration - clearly Beau DeMayo gets it, and we need more people like >> him in Hollywood! #marvel #mcu #disney

    https://youtu.be/ijrMi6HhGlU?si=j4HnsJ8x2kWDTcBt

    I've said all of this before, many times, right here.

    So have I, but thought of you during the vidclip.

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  • From =?ISO-8859-1?B?Selzc2ljYQ==?=@j?ssica6449990@alertas6.safiracorbonita.cfd to rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.animation,rec.arts.comics.marvel.universe,rec.arts.disney.animation,rec.arts.sf.tv on Fri Aug 8 21:59:48 2025
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    In article <1074mlj$m6da$3@dont-email.me>, weberm@polaris.net wrote:

    The Creator and Producer of X-Men '97, Beau DeMayo, went on something of a >posting binge on X Saturday, describing in detail the problems he had with >Marvel executives while trying to do a comic book show that respected fans >and the source material. In the process, he revealed some major truths >about what goes on behind the scenes at Marvel, and it explains a LOT about >why so many MCU projects go wrong. This is a MUST SEE folks, and an >inspiration - clearly Beau DeMayo gets it, and we need more people like him >in Hollywood! #marvel #mcu #disney

    https://youtu.be/ijrMi6HhGlU?si=j4HnsJ8x2kWDTcBt

    We didn't need to be told this. It has been obvious to any comic fan since
    the middle of Marvel phase 2 (looking at you Age of Ultron and Ironman 3)
    that they have zero issue deviating wildly from the source material to the detriment of the story and the characters.

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  • From Your Name@YourName@YourISP.com to rec.arts.comics.marvel.universe,rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.disney.animation,rec.arts.animation,rec.arts.tv on Sat Aug 9 16:28:23 2025
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    On 2025-08-09 01:59:48 +0000, Iossica said:
    In article <1074mlj$m6da$3@dont-email.me>, weberm@polaris.net wrote:



    The Creator and Producer of X-Men '97, Beau DeMayo, went on something of a >>
    posting binge on X Saturday, describing in detail the problems he had with >>
    Marvel executives while trying to do a comic book show that respected fans >>
    and the source material. In the process, he revealed some major truths

    about what goes on behind the scenes at Marvel, and it explains a LOT about >>
    why so many MCU projects go wrong. This is a MUST SEE folks, and an

    inspiration - clearly Beau DeMayo gets it, and we need more people like him >>
    in Hollywood! #marvel #mcu #disney



    https://youtu.be/ijrMi6HhGlU?si=j4HnsJ8x2kWDTcBt



    We didn't need to be told this. It has been obvious to any comic fan since

    the middle of Marvel phase 2 (looking at you Age of Ultron and Ironman 3)

    that they have zero issue deviating wildly from the source material to the

    detriment of the story and the characters.




    Hollyweird has been doing that for pretty much as long as it has
    existed. The lazy morons making these "adaptations" (as well as
    "reboots" and "resurrections") usually think they know better than the
    person who had the talent to create the thing in the first place as to
    what it "should" have been rather than what it actually *is*. Idiotic "Political Correctness" has these days only added another layer of
    stupid changes. :-\

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  • From Paul S Person@psperson@old.netcom.invalid to rec.arts.comics.marvel.universe,rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.disney.animation,rec.arts.animation,rec.arts.tv on Sat Aug 9 08:20:16 2025
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    On Sat, 9 Aug 2025 16:28:23 +1200, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
    wrote:
    On 2025-08-09 01:59:48 +0000, Iossica said:
    In article <1074mlj$m6da$3@dont-email.me>, weberm@polaris.net wrote:



    The Creator and Producer of X-Men '97, Beau DeMayo, went on something of a >>>
    posting binge on X Saturday, describing in detail the problems he had with >>>
    Marvel executives while trying to do a comic book show that respected fans >>>
    and the source material. In the process, he revealed some major truths >>>
    about what goes on behind the scenes at Marvel, and it explains a LOT about

    why so many MCU projects go wrong. This is a MUST SEE folks, and an

    inspiration - clearly Beau DeMayo gets it, and we need more people like him

    in Hollywood! #marvel #mcu #disney



    https://youtu.be/ijrMi6HhGlU?si=j4HnsJ8x2kWDTcBt



    We didn't need to be told this. It has been obvious to any comic fan since >>
    the middle of Marvel phase 2 (looking at you Age of Ultron and Ironman 3) >>
    that they have zero issue deviating wildly from the source material to the >>
    detriment of the story and the characters.




    Hollyweird has been doing that for pretty much as long as it has
    existed. The lazy morons making these "adaptations" (as well as
    "reboots" and "resurrections") usually think they know better than the >person who had the talent to create the thing in the first place as to
    what it "should" have been rather than what it actually *is*. Idiotic
    This doesn't just afflict movies. Disney went through a phase of DVDs
    of its animated classics that were "restored to better than their
    original brilliance". A fair number of fans (or fanatics) of Disney
    animation complained about how they looked.
    I have two CDs purporting to be the same as the original LP Motion
    Picture Soundtrack to /Mary Poppins/, both awaiting disposal. I ended
    up digitizing the LP because the geniuses-in-charge never bothered to
    listen to the LP, they just read the track list. Don't get me wrong:
    either CD will do fine for someone who never heard the LP. But they
    aren't the same.
    And then there's /The Complete Musketeers/, a DVD set of the early
    70's films, whose makers never bothered to watch the films in any
    form, and so did not show the scenes shot in daylight to be shown as
    happening in darkness in darkness. In the theater, the results were so
    dark that the screen was almost entirely black. On the DVD you can see
    every single detail. Some of which details do not make any sense when
    you can see what is going on.
    And so on, and so on. The DVD of /The Taming of the Shrew/ (Burton)
    omits the line "He who is giddy sees the world turn 'round", making
    the response appear pointless.
    The reason, of course, is that they are treating the films as
    /product/, on which no real effort is to be lavished because, after
    all, "it's just a movie". No sense of pride in their own work at all. >"Political Correctness" has these days only added another layer of
    stupid changes. :-\
    Sometimes with interesting results.
    And, anyway, didn't Trump issue an Executive Order about that?
    --
    "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
    Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
    Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"
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  • From ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan@tednolan to rec.arts.comics.marvel.universe,rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.disney.animation,rec.arts.animation,rec.arts.tv on Sat Aug 9 17:34:59 2025
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    In article <q5pe9kt3t52nvnsqlldii84tka3kiijm6d@4ax.com>,
    Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
    On Sat, 9 Aug 2025 16:28:23 +1200, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
    wrote:

    On 2025-08-09 01:59:48 +0000, Iossica said:
    In article <1074mlj$m6da$3@dont-email.me>, weberm@polaris.net wrote:



    The Creator and Producer of X-Men '97, Beau DeMayo, went on something of a

    posting binge on X Saturday, describing in detail the problems he had with

    Marvel executives while trying to do a comic book show that respected fans

    and the source material. In the process, he revealed some major truths >>>>
    about what goes on behind the scenes at Marvel, and it explains a LOT about

    why so many MCU projects go wrong. This is a MUST SEE folks, and an

    inspiration - clearly Beau DeMayo gets it, and we need more people like him

    in Hollywood! #marvel #mcu #disney



    https://youtu.be/ijrMi6HhGlU?si=j4HnsJ8x2kWDTcBt



    We didn't need to be told this. It has been obvious to any comic fan since >>>
    the middle of Marvel phase 2 (looking at you Age of Ultron and Ironman 3) >>>
    that they have zero issue deviating wildly from the source material to the >>>
    detriment of the story and the characters.




    Hollyweird has been doing that for pretty much as long as it has
    existed. The lazy morons making these "adaptations" (as well as
    "reboots" and "resurrections") usually think they know better than the >>person who had the talent to create the thing in the first place as to >>what it "should" have been rather than what it actually *is*. Idiotic

    This doesn't just afflict movies. Disney went through a phase of DVDs
    of its animated classics that were "restored to better than their
    original brilliance". A fair number of fans (or fanatics) of Disney
    animation complained about how they looked.

    I have two CDs purporting to be the same as the original LP Motion
    Picture Soundtrack to /Mary Poppins/, both awaiting disposal. I ended
    up digitizing the LP because the geniuses-in-charge never bothered to
    listen to the LP, they just read the track list. Don't get me wrong:
    either CD will do fine for someone who never heard the LP. But they
    aren't the same.


    Of course it's not any better when they do look at the product.
    For instance the snipping of a smoking scene and the black centauress
    from the "restored versions" of "Pecos Bill" & "Fantasia" respectively.
    --
    columbiaclosings.com
    What's not in Columbia anymore..
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  • From Your Name@YourName@YourISP.com to rec.arts.comics.marvel.universe,rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.disney.animation,rec.arts.animation,rec.arts.tv on Sun Aug 10 09:59:47 2025
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    On 2025-08-09 15:20:16 +0000, Paul S Person said:
    On Sat, 9 Aug 2025 16:28:23 +1200, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
    wrote:
    On 2025-08-09 01:59:48 +0000, Iossica said:
    In article <1074mlj$m6da$3@dont-email.me>, weberm@polaris.net wrote:

    The Creator and Producer of X-Men '97, Beau DeMayo, went on something >>>> of a>>>>>> posting binge on X Saturday, describing in detail the
    problems he had with>>>>>> Marvel executives while trying to do a comic >>>> book show that respected fans>>>>>> and the source material. In the
    process, he revealed some major truths>>>>>> about what goes on behind >>>> the scenes at Marvel, and it explains a LOT about>>>>>> why so many MCU >>>> projects go wrong. This is a MUST SEE folks, and an>>>>>> inspiration >>>> - clearly Beau DeMayo gets it, and we need more people like him>>>>>> >>>> in Hollywood! #marvel #mcu #disney>>>>>>>>>>>>
    https://youtu.be/ijrMi6HhGlU?si=j4HnsJ8x2kWDTcBt

    We didn't need to be told this. It has been obvious to any comic fan
    since>>>> the middle of Marvel phase 2 (looking at you Age of Ultron
    and Ironman 3)>>>> that they have zero issue deviating wildly from the
    source material to the>>>> detriment of the story and the characters.

    Hollyweird has been doing that for pretty much as long as it
    existed. The lazy morons making these "adaptations" (as well
    "reboots" and "resurrections") usually think they know better than
    person who had the talent to create the thing in the first place as
    what it "should" have been rather than what it actually *is*.

    This doesn't just afflict movies.

    It doesn't even just afflict the video industry (TV and movies) either, although they are sometimes still to blame.

    For example, Elisabeth Beresford's books about the Wombles were
    originally released with illustrations of the creatures with flat
    snouts, then along came the TV series which stupidly changed them to
    having pointed snouts, which then in turn meant re-prints of the books
    were also changed to the new design of the creatures. Now almost nobody remebers the original design of the creatures. <https://sevenstories.online/behind-stories/wombles-they-had-pointy-noses>

    There are also MANY examples were a book series has had the cover
    design changed mid-run, meaning collectors were faced with either
    having a mis-matched set or having to re-buy the books they already
    owned. (The same happened with VHS and DVD releases of movies and TV
    shows.)



    Disney went through a phase of DVDs of its animated classics that were "restored to better than their original brilliance". A fair number of
    fans (or fanatics) of Disney animation complained about how they looked.

    I have two CDs purporting to be the same as the original LP Motion
    Picture Soundtrack to /Mary Poppins/, both awaiting disposal. I ended
    up digitizing the LP because the geniuses-in-charge never bothered to
    listen to the LP, they just read the track list. Don't get me wrong:
    either CD will do fine for someone who never heard the LP. But they
    aren't the same.

    And then there's /The Complete Musketeers/, a DVD set of the early
    70's films, whose makers never bothered to watch the films in any
    form, and so did not show the scenes shot in daylight to be shown as happening in darkness in darkness. In the theater, the results were so
    dark that the screen was almost entirely black. On the DVD you can see
    every single detail. Some of which details do not make any sense when
    you can see what is going on.

    And so on, and so on. The DVD of /The Taming of the Shrew/ (Burton)
    omits the line "He who is giddy sees the world turn 'round", making
    the response appear pointless.
    The reason, of course, is that they are treating the films as
    /product/, on which no real effort is to be lavished because, after
    all, "it's just a movie". No sense of pride in their own work at all.


    Idiotic "Political Correctness" has these days only added another layer
    of stupid changes. :-\

    Sometimes with interesting results.

    And, anyway, didn't Trump issue an Executive Order about that?

    Despite what Trump the Chump likes to believe, he doesn't control the
    entire world ... he doesn't even control the USA thanks to people with
    actual brains blocking most of his stupid ideas. His ditching of the "Political Correctness" stupidity is the *ONLY* sane thing he has ever
    come up with.

    The BBC, for example, will continue to fulfil checkbox quotas and do
    silly things like gender/ethnicity-swap existing characters.

    There are a couple of politicians here in New Zealand trying to do the
    same thing by having everyone treated the same, but the loud-mouthed
    "PC" fools are of course making a massive fuss about how it is
    "anti-Maori" because it would mean they no longer get special treatment
    simply because they are Maori (i.e. reverse-racist treatment).



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  • From Paul S Person@psperson@old.netcom.invalid to rec.arts.comics.marvel.universe,rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.disney.animation,rec.arts.animation,rec.arts.tv on Sun Aug 10 08:33:05 2025
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    On Sun, 10 Aug 2025 09:59:47 +1200, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
    wrote:
    On 2025-08-09 15:20:16 +0000, Paul S Person said:
    On Sat, 9 Aug 2025 16:28:23 +1200, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
    wrote:
    On 2025-08-09 01:59:48 +0000, Iossica said:
    In article <1074mlj$m6da$3@dont-email.me>, weberm@polaris.net wrote:

    The Creator and Producer of X-Men '97, Beau DeMayo, went on something >>>>> of a>>>>>> posting binge on X Saturday, describing in detail the
    problems he had with>>>>>> Marvel executives while trying to do a comic >>>>> book show that respected fans>>>>>> and the source material. In the >>>>> process, he revealed some major truths>>>>>> about what goes on behind >>>>> the scenes at Marvel, and it explains a LOT about>>>>>> why so many MCU >>>>> projects go wrong. This is a MUST SEE folks, and an>>>>>> inspiration >>>>> - clearly Beau DeMayo gets it, and we need more people like him>>>>>> >>>>> in Hollywood! #marvel #mcu #disney>>>>>>>>>>>>
    https://youtu.be/ijrMi6HhGlU?si=j4HnsJ8x2kWDTcBt

    We didn't need to be told this. It has been obvious to any comic fan
    since>>>> the middle of Marvel phase 2 (looking at you Age of Ultron
    and Ironman 3)>>>> that they have zero issue deviating wildly from the >>>> source material to the>>>> detriment of the story and the characters.

    Hollyweird has been doing that for pretty much as long as it
    existed. The lazy morons making these "adaptations" (as well
    "reboots" and "resurrections") usually think they know better than
    person who had the talent to create the thing in the first place as >>> to>what it "should" have been rather than what it actually *is*.

    This doesn't just afflict movies.

    It doesn't even just afflict the video industry (TV and movies) either, >although they are sometimes still to blame.

    For example, Elisabeth Beresford's books about the Wombles were
    originally released with illustrations of the creatures with flat
    snouts, then along came the TV series which stupidly changed them to
    having pointed snouts, which then in turn meant re-prints of the books
    were also changed to the new design of the creatures. Now almost nobody >remebers the original design of the creatures. ><https://sevenstories.online/behind-stories/wombles-they-had-pointy-noses>

    There are also MANY examples were a book series has had the cover
    design changed mid-run, meaning collectors were faced with either
    having a mis-matched set or having to re-buy the books they already
    owned. (The same happened with VHS and DVD releases of movies and TV
    shows.)



    Disney went through a phase of DVDs of its animated classics that were
    "restored to better than their original brilliance". A fair number of
    fans (or fanatics) of Disney animation complained about how they looked.

    I have two CDs purporting to be the same as the original LP Motion
    Picture Soundtrack to /Mary Poppins/, both awaiting disposal. I ended
    up digitizing the LP because the geniuses-in-charge never bothered to
    listen to the LP, they just read the track list. Don't get me wrong:
    either CD will do fine for someone who never heard the LP. But they
    aren't the same.

    And then there's /The Complete Musketeers/, a DVD set of the early
    70's films, whose makers never bothered to watch the films in any
    form, and so did not show the scenes shot in daylight to be shown as
    happening in darkness in darkness. In the theater, the results were so
    dark that the screen was almost entirely black. On the DVD you can see
    every single detail. Some of which details do not make any sense when
    you can see what is going on.

    And so on, and so on. The DVD of /The Taming of the Shrew/ (Burton)
    omits the line "He who is giddy sees the world turn 'round", making
    the response appear pointless.
    The reason, of course, is that they are treating the films as
    /product/, on which no real effort is to be lavished because, after
    all, "it's just a movie". No sense of pride in their own work at all.


    Idiotic "Political Correctness" has these days only added another layer >>> of stupid changes. :-\

    Sometimes with interesting results.

    And, anyway, didn't Trump issue an Executive Order about that?

    Despite what Trump the Chump likes to believe, he doesn't control the
    entire world ... he doesn't even control the USA thanks to people with >actual brains blocking most of his stupid ideas. His ditching of the >"Political Correctness" stupidity is the *ONLY* sane thing he has ever
    come up with.
    So sane that Hegseth is apparently trying to turn rebels and traitors
    back into heroes.
    However, toning down any /actual/ stupidity is always a good thing.
    The BBC, for example, will continue to fulfil checkbox quotas and do
    silly things like gender/ethnicity-swap existing characters.
    IIRC, Dr Who can reformulate himself to look like anyone. So some
    characters are inherently flexible.
    There are a couple of politicians here in New Zealand trying to do the
    same thing by having everyone treated the same, but the loud-mouthed
    "PC" fools are of course making a massive fuss about how it is
    "anti-Maori" because it would mean they no longer get special treatment >simply because they are Maori (i.e. reverse-racist treatment).
    Depends on the motive.
    If the motive is to celebrate the arrival of equality in society, that
    is one thing.
    If the motive is to return to the bad old days, that is something
    else.
    In the long run, I would /expect/ a truly egalitarian society to be --
    truly egalitarian. But the USA is nowhere near that point. Perhaps in
    500 years ...
    --
    "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
    Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
    Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"
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  • From Paul S Person@psperson@old.netcom.invalid to rec.arts.comics.marvel.universe,rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.disney.animation,rec.arts.animation,rec.arts.tv on Sun Aug 10 08:48:38 2025
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    On 9 Aug 2025 17:34:59 GMT, ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>)
    wrote:
    <snippo examples of self-centered idiots botching things because they
    are so smart they don't have to actually know anything>

    Of course it's not any better when they do look at the product.
    For instance the snipping of a smoking scene and the black centauress
    from the "restored versions" of "Pecos Bill" & "Fantasia" respectively. Censorship. A different problem, but certainly present.
    There appear to be two approaches:
    1. Don't censor, but make it clear that the offensive material is from
    an offensive time. And, in some cases of cartoon collections (I have
    been told), force the viewer to explicitly select each cartoon -- to
    discourage the kiddies, who shouldn't be viewing them anyway.
    2, Do censor, and pretend nothing happened.
    I believe it was Disney who, in one of its cartoon collections aimed
    at a specific decade or so (I am told, I never bought a copy) used a
    later version of "The Three Little Pigs" because the Wolf in the one
    from that time frame was a Jewish stereotype. Maltin (IIRC, it was
    Maltin) had a feature discussing the cartoons, and /he/ showed clips
    of the original Wolf, stereotypes and all.
    I have somewhere a clip (not playable using the obvious resources of
    Win 11, although something may exist that can play it) of the white
    lady unicorn attended by two small black unicorn maids. This was
    apparently cut from the re-release which, when I saw it in the
    theater, showed me that I had no actual interest in watching that sort
    of thing. There truly is no accounting for taste.
    Pecos Bill got off lightly. On a different film's DVD, the entire Hatfield/McCoy sequence was cut. Or so I read at the time. Whether the
    recent re-releases actually /are/ the originals or not is unknown to
    me. Disney, of course, cannot be trusted in this matter.
    There are, incidently, entire DVDs of cartoons that are no longer
    acceptable in polite society. At least, that is what they claim; I've
    never bought one because the quality of 3rd party cartoon disks is
    generally deplorable.
    --
    "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
    Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
    Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"
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  • From Your Name@YourName@YourISP.com to rec.arts.comics.marvel.universe,rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.disney.animation,rec.arts.animation,rec.arts.tv on Mon Aug 11 09:31:30 2025
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    On 2025-08-10 15:33:05 +0000, Paul S Person said:
    On Sun, 10 Aug 2025 09:59:47 +1200, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
    wrote:
    On 2025-08-09 15:20:16 +0000, Paul S Person said:
    On Sat, 9 Aug 2025 16:28:23 +1200, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
    wrote:
    On 2025-08-09 01:59:48 +0000, Iossica said:
    In article <1074mlj$m6da$3@dont-email.me>, weberm@polaris.net wrote: >>>>>>
    The Creator and Producer of X-Men '97, Beau DeMayo, went on
    something>>>>> of a>>>>>> posting binge on X Saturday, describing in >>>>>> detail the>>>>> problems he had with>>>>>> Marvel executives while >>>>>> trying to do a comic>>>>> book show that respected fans>>>>>> and the >>>>>> source material. In the>>>>> process, he revealed some major
    truths>>>>>> about what goes on behind>>>>> the scenes at Marvel, and >>>>>> it explains a LOT about>>>>>> why so many MCU>>>>> projects go wrong. >>>>>> This is a MUST SEE folks, and an>>>>>> inspiration>>>>> - clearly Beau >>>>>> DeMayo gets it, and we need more people like him>>>>>>>>>>> in
    Hollywood! #marvel #mcu #disney>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    https://youtu.be/ijrMi6HhGlU?si=j4HnsJ8x2kWDTcBt

    We didn't need to be told this. It has been obvious to any comic
    since>>>> the middle of Marvel phase 2 (looking at you Age of >>>>> Ultron>>>> and Ironman 3)>>>> that they have zero issue deviating
    wildly from the>>>> source material to the>>>> detriment of the story >>>>> and the characters.

    Hollyweird has been doing that for pretty much as long as it>>>
    existed. The lazy morons making these "adaptations" (as well>>>
    "reboots" and "resurrections") usually think they know better
    than>>> the>person who had the talent to create the thing in the first >>>> place as>>> to>what it "should" have been rather than what it actually >>>> *is*.

    This doesn't just afflict movies.

    It doesn't even just afflict the video industry (TV and movies)
    either,>although they are sometimes still to blame.

    For example, Elisabeth Beresford's books about the Wombles
    were>originally released with illustrations of the creatures with
    flat>snouts, then along came the TV series which stupidly changed them
    having pointed snouts, which then in turn meant re-prints of the
    books>were also changed to the new design of the creatures. Now almost
    nobody>remebers the original design of the creatures.
    <https://sevenstories.online/behind-stories/wombles-they-had-pointy-noses> >>
    There are also MANY examples were a book series has had the
    cover>design changed mid-run, meaning collectors were faced with
    either>having a mis-matched set or having to re-buy the books they
    already>owned. (The same happened with VHS and DVD releases of movies
    and TV>shows.)



    Disney went through a phase of DVDs of its animated classics that
    were>> "restored to better than their original brilliance". A fair
    number of>> fans (or fanatics) of Disney animation complained about how >>> they looked.

    I have two CDs purporting to be the same as the original LP Motion
    Picture Soundtrack to /Mary Poppins/, both awaiting disposal. I ended
    up digitizing the LP because the geniuses-in-charge never bothered to
    listen to the LP, they just read the track list. Don't get me wrong:
    either CD will do fine for someone who never heard the LP. But they
    aren't the same.

    And then there's /The Complete Musketeers/, a DVD set of the early
    70's films, whose makers never bothered to watch the films in any
    form, and so did not show the scenes shot in daylight to be shown as
    happening in darkness in darkness. In the theater, the results were so
    dark that the screen was almost entirely black. On the DVD you can see
    every single detail. Some of which details do not make any sense when
    you can see what is going on.

    And so on, and so on. The DVD of /The Taming of the Shrew/ (Burton)
    omits the line "He who is giddy sees the world turn 'round", making
    the response appear pointless.
    The reason, of course, is that they are treating the films as
    /product/, on which no real effort is to be lavished because, after
    all, "it's just a movie". No sense of pride in their own work at all.


    Idiotic "Political Correctness" has these days only added another
    layer>>> of stupid changes. :-\

    Sometimes with interesting results.

    And, anyway, didn't Trump issue an Executive Order about that?

    Despite what Trump the Chump likes to believe, he doesn't control
    entire world ... he doesn't even control the USA thanks to people
    with>actual brains blocking most of his stupid ideas. His ditching of
    "Political Correctness" stupidity is the *ONLY* sane thing he has
    ever>come up with.

    So sane that Hegseth is apparently trying to turn rebels and traitors
    back into heroes.

    However, toning down any /actual/ stupidity is always a good thing.

    The BBC, for example, will continue to fulfil checkbox quotas and
    silly things like gender/ethnicity-swap existing characters.

    IIRC, Dr Who can reformulate himself to look like anyone. So some
    characters are inherently flexible.

    Only as a retro-fit to enable the BBC to now gender-swap the characters
    to appease the Politically Correct morons and enforced fulfil quotas.



    There are a couple of politicians here in New Zealand trying to do
    same thing by having everyone treated the same, but the
    loud-mouthed>"PC" fools are of course making a massive fuss about how
    it is>"anti-Maori" because it would mean they no longer get special
    treatment>simply because they are Maori (i.e. reverse-racist treatment).

    Depends on the motive.

    If the motive is to celebrate the arrival of equality in society, that
    is one thing.

    If the motive is to return to the bad old days, that is something
    else.

    In the long run, I would /expect/ a truly egalitarian society to be --
    truly egalitarian. But the USA is nowhere near that point. Perhaps in
    500 years ...

    Try 50,000 years or more. Humans are simply too stupid, too greedy, and
    too selfish.

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  • From Your Name@YourName@YourISP.com to rec.arts.comics.marvel.universe,rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.disney.animation,rec.arts.animation,rec.arts.tv on Mon Aug 11 09:35:49 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.animation

    On 2025-08-10 15:48:38 +0000, Paul S Person said:
    On 9 Aug 2025 17:34:59 GMT, ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>)
    wrote:

    <snippo examples of self-centered idiots botching things because they
    are so smart they don't have to actually know anything>

    Of course it's not any better when they do look at the product.
    For instance the snipping of a smoking scene and the black centauress
    from the "restored versions" of "Pecos Bill" & "Fantasia" respectively.

    Censorship. A different problem, but certainly present.

    There appear to be two approaches:
    1. Don't censor, but make it clear that the offensive material is from
    an offensive time. And, in some cases of cartoon collections (I have
    been told), force the viewer to explicitly select each cartoon -- to discourage the kiddies, who shouldn't be viewing them anyway.

    2, Do censor, and pretend nothing happened.

    I believe it was Disney who, in one of its cartoon collections aimed
    at a specific decade or so (I am told, I never bought a copy) used a
    later version of "The Three Little Pigs" because the Wolf in the one
    from that time frame was a Jewish stereotype. Maltin (IIRC, it was
    Maltin) had a feature discussing the cartoons, and /he/ showed clips
    of the original Wolf, stereotypes and all.

    I have somewhere a clip (not playable using the obvious resources of
    Win 11, although something may exist that can play it) of the white
    lady unicorn attended by two small black unicorn maids. This was
    apparently cut from the re-release which, when I saw it in the
    theater, showed me that I had no actual interest in watching that sort
    of thing. There truly is no accounting for taste.

    Pecos Bill got off lightly. On a different film's DVD, the entire Hatfield/McCoy sequence was cut. Or so I read at the time. Whether the
    recent re-releases actually /are/ the originals or not is unknown to
    me. Disney, of course, cannot be trusted in this matter.

    There are, incidently, entire DVDs of cartoons that are no longer
    acceptable in polite society. At least, that is what they claim; I've
    never bought one because the quality of 3rd party cartoon disks is
    generally deplorable.

    The same happens with books. Authors like Roald Dahl and Enid Blyton
    have had their stories re-edited to remove the "incorrect" bits. :-\

    Often such stupidity is due to adults looking at kids' videos and books
    and seeing something that the kids would never even think.




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  • From Klarna.no A/S@jira@donaldtris.atlassian.net to rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.animation,rec.arts.comics.marvel.universe,rec.arts.disney.animation,rec.arts.sf.tv on Sun Aug 10 17:47:27 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.animation

    In article <1074mlj$m6da$3@dont-email.me>, weberm@polaris.net wrote:


    The Creator and Producer of X-Men '97, Beau DeMayo, went on something of a >posting binge on X Saturday, describing in detail the problems he had with >Marvel executives while trying to do a comic book show that respected fans >and the source material. In the process, he revealed some major truths about >what goes on behind the scenes at Marvel, and it explains a LOT about why so >many MCU projects go wrong. This is a MUST SEE folks, and an inspiration - >clearly Beau DeMayo gets it, and we need more people like him in Hollywood! >#marvel #mcu #disney

    https://youtu.be/ijrMi6HhGlU?si=j4HnsJ8x2kWDTcBt

    They hired him because he was DEI, not knowing he was a true fan, and when
    he didn't do things there way they kicked him out.

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  • From Paul S Person@psperson@old.netcom.invalid to rec.arts.comics.marvel.universe,rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.disney.animation,rec.arts.animation,rec.arts.tv on Mon Aug 11 10:56:36 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.animation

    On Mon, 11 Aug 2025 09:35:49 +1200, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
    wrote:
    On 2025-08-10 15:48:38 +0000, Paul S Person said:
    On 9 Aug 2025 17:34:59 GMT, ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>)
    wrote:

    <snippo examples of self-centered idiots botching things because they
    are so smart they don't have to actually know anything>

    Of course it's not any better when they do look at the product.
    For instance the snipping of a smoking scene and the black centauress
    from the "restored versions" of "Pecos Bill" & "Fantasia" respectively.

    Censorship. A different problem, but certainly present.

    There appear to be two approaches:
    1. Don't censor, but make it clear that the offensive material is from
    an offensive time. And, in some cases of cartoon collections (I have
    been told), force the viewer to explicitly select each cartoon -- to
    discourage the kiddies, who shouldn't be viewing them anyway.

    2, Do censor, and pretend nothing happened.

    I believe it was Disney who, in one of its cartoon collections aimed
    at a specific decade or so (I am told, I never bought a copy) used a
    later version of "The Three Little Pigs" because the Wolf in the one
    from that time frame was a Jewish stereotype. Maltin (IIRC, it was
    Maltin) had a feature discussing the cartoons, and /he/ showed clips
    of the original Wolf, stereotypes and all.

    I have somewhere a clip (not playable using the obvious resources of
    Win 11, although something may exist that can play it) of the white
    lady unicorn attended by two small black unicorn maids. This was
    apparently cut from the re-release which, when I saw it in the
    theater, showed me that I had no actual interest in watching that sort
    of thing. There truly is no accounting for taste.

    Pecos Bill got off lightly. On a different film's DVD, the entire
    Hatfield/McCoy sequence was cut. Or so I read at the time. Whether the
    recent re-releases actually /are/ the originals or not is unknown to
    me. Disney, of course, cannot be trusted in this matter.

    There are, incidently, entire DVDs of cartoons that are no longer
    acceptable in polite society. At least, that is what they claim; I've
    never bought one because the quality of 3rd party cartoon disks is
    generally deplorable.

    The same happens with books. Authors like Roald Dahl and Enid Blyton
    have had their stories re-edited to remove the "incorrect" bits. :-\

    Often such stupidity is due to adults looking at kids' videos and books
    and seeing something that the kids would never even think.
    Which is actually what makes some animated movies so popular: lots of
    stuff the adults catch that sail right over the heads of the kids.
    These are mostly cultural references. Thus, the film /Rango/ has a
    character who is straight out of the Man With No Name films, and a
    villain straight out of /Chinatown/. Adults may catch this, if they
    have seen the other films, but small kids probably won't.
    Many many other examples exist. A fairly recent one is the Tad Jones
    films (three so far), the first one of which licensed stuff from Lucas
    because they are very much Indana Jones movies. When I decide a film
    is "aimed at a younger audience", I generally mean that it has no such references to keep any adults watching entertained.
    --
    "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
    Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
    Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"
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  • From Your Name@YourName@YourISP.com to rec.arts.comics.marvel.universe,rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.disney.animation,rec.arts.animation,rec.arts.sf.tv on Tue Aug 12 09:17:11 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.animation

    On 2025-08-11 17:56:36 +0000, Paul S Person said:
    On Mon, 11 Aug 2025 09:35:49 +1200, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
    wrote:
    On 2025-08-10 15:48:38 +0000, Paul S Person said:
    On 9 Aug 2025 17:34:59 GMT, ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>)
    wrote:

    <snippo examples of self-centered idiots botching things because they
    are so smart they don't have to actually know anything>

    Of course it's not any better when they do look at the product.
    For instance the snipping of a smoking scene and the black centauress
    from the "restored versions" of "Pecos Bill" & "Fantasia" respectively. >>>
    Censorship. A different problem, but certainly present.

    There appear to be two approaches:
    1. Don't censor, but make it clear that the offensive material is from
    an offensive time. And, in some cases of cartoon collections (I have
    been told), force the viewer to explicitly select each cartoon -- to
    discourage the kiddies, who shouldn't be viewing them anyway.

    2, Do censor, and pretend nothing happened.

    I believe it was Disney who, in one of its cartoon collections aimed
    at a specific decade or so (I am told, I never bought a copy) used a
    later version of "The Three Little Pigs" because the Wolf in the one
    from that time frame was a Jewish stereotype. Maltin (IIRC, it was
    Maltin) had a feature discussing the cartoons, and /he/ showed clips
    of the original Wolf, stereotypes and all.

    I have somewhere a clip (not playable using the obvious resources of
    Win 11, although something may exist that can play it) of the white
    lady unicorn attended by two small black unicorn maids. This was
    apparently cut from the re-release which, when I saw it in the
    theater, showed me that I had no actual interest in watching that sort
    of thing. There truly is no accounting for taste.

    Pecos Bill got off lightly. On a different film's DVD, the entire
    Hatfield/McCoy sequence was cut. Or so I read at the time. Whether the
    recent re-releases actually /are/ the originals or not is unknown to
    me. Disney, of course, cannot be trusted in this matter.

    There are, incidently, entire DVDs of cartoons that are no longer
    acceptable in polite society. At least, that is what they claim; I've
    never bought one because the quality of 3rd party cartoon disks is
    generally deplorable.

    The same happens with books. Authors like Roald Dahl and Enid
    Blyton>have had their stories re-edited to remove the "incorrect" bits.
    :-\

    Often such stupidity is due to adults looking at kids' videos and
    books>and seeing something that the kids would never even think.

    Which is actually what makes some animated movies so popular: lots of
    stuff the adults catch that sail right over the heads of the kids.

    These are mostly cultural references. Thus, the film /Rango/ has a
    character who is straight out of the Man With No Name films, and a
    villain straight out of /Chinatown/. Adults may catch this, if they
    have seen the other films, but small kids probably won't.
    Many many other examples exist. A fairly recent one is the Tad Jones
    films (three so far), the first one of which licensed stuff from Lucas because they are very much Indana Jones movies. When I decide a film
    is "aimed at a younger audience", I generally mean that it has no such references to keep any adults watching entertained.

    I meant the stuff the few loud-mouthed braindead adults insist gets
    removed because it offends them, but which kids don't even notice. For example, in Roald Dalh's "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory", Augustus
    Gloop is described as being fat, but that is not "Politically Correct"
    so has been changed in new reprints.


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  • From john@john@hamiltonhall.info to rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.animation,rec.arts.comics.marvel.universe,rec.arts.disney.animation,rec.arts.sf.tv on Fri Aug 15 15:40:49 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.animation

    ssica6449990@alertas6.safiracorbonita.cfd wrote:
    In article <1074mlj$m6da$3@dont-email.me>, weberm@polaris.net wrote:

    The Creator and Producer of X-Men '97, Beau DeMayo, went on something of a >>posting binge on X Saturday, describing in detail the problems he had with >>Marvel executives while trying to do a comic book show that respected fans >>and the source material. In the process, he revealed some major truths >>about what goes on behind the scenes at Marvel, and it explains a LOT about >>why so many MCU projects go wrong. This is a MUST SEE folks, and an >>inspiration - clearly Beau DeMayo gets it, and we need more people like him >>in Hollywood! #marvel #mcu #disney

    https://youtu.be/ijrMi6HhGlU?si=j4HnsJ8x2kWDTcBt

    We didn't need to be told this. It has been obvious to any comic fan since >the middle of Marvel phase 2 (looking at you Age of Ultron and Ironman 3) >that they have zero issue deviating wildly from the source material to the >detriment of the story and the characters.

    ItAs funny going back now and rewatching the old "bad" MCU films after what weAve been served the last half decade. TheyAre masterpieces, comparatively.

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  • From Kenneth M. Lin@kenneth_m_lin@sbcglobal.net to rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.animation,rec.arts.comics.marvel.universe,rec.arts.disney.animation,rec.arts.sf.tv on Fri Aug 15 15:43:08 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.animation

    In article <20250808200752.B1DFE4228B@alertas6.safiracorbonita.cfd>, j? ssica6449990@alertas6.safiracorbonita.cfd wrote:
    In article <1074mlj$m6da$3@dont-email.me>, weberm@polaris.net wrote:

    The Creator and Producer of X-Men '97, Beau DeMayo, went on something of a >>posting binge on X Saturday, describing in detail the problems he had with >>Marvel executives while trying to do a comic book show that respected fans >>and the source material. In the process, he revealed some major truths >>about what goes on behind the scenes at Marvel, and it explains a LOT about >>why so many MCU projects go wrong. This is a MUST SEE folks, and an >>inspiration - clearly Beau DeMayo gets it, and we need more people like him >>in Hollywood! #marvel #mcu #disney

    https://youtu.be/ijrMi6HhGlU?si=j4HnsJ8x2kWDTcBt

    We didn't need to be told this. It has been obvious to any comic fan since >the middle of Marvel phase 2 (looking at you Age of Ultron and Ironman 3) >that they have zero issue deviating wildly from the source material to the >detriment of the story and the characters.

    Some of the best fantasy and sci-fi movies have come from comic and graphic novel origins. The original comic writers and illustrators knew how to write a story and frame a scene. It shows up in some of the amazing early translations to film. Brilliant storylines and twists, and amazing, atmospheric cinematography translated directly from the pages of the books.

    Then they threw out the exquisite artistic talent available to them of the original storytellers and replaced it with what stroked their own egos and pandered to their inferior creativity.

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  • From Terrence Briggs@mrman1mrman1@gmail.com to rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.animation,rec.arts.comics.marvel.universe,rec.arts.disney.animation,rec.arts.sf.tv on Fri Aug 15 15:48:47 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.animation

    ssica6449990@alertas6.safiracorbonita.cfd wrote:
    In article <1074mlj$m6da$3@dont-email.me>, weberm@polaris.net wrote:

    The Creator and Producer of X-Men '97, Beau DeMayo, went on something of a >>posting binge on X Saturday, describing in detail the problems he had with >>Marvel executives while trying to do a comic book show that respected fans >>and the source material. In the process, he revealed some major truths >>about what goes on behind the scenes at Marvel, and it explains a LOT about >>why so many MCU projects go wrong. This is a MUST SEE folks, and an >>inspiration - clearly Beau DeMayo gets it, and we need more people like him >>in Hollywood! #marvel #mcu #disney

    https://youtu.be/ijrMi6HhGlU?si=j4HnsJ8x2kWDTcBt

    We didn't need to be told this. It has been obvious to any comic fan since >the middle of Marvel phase 2 (looking at you Age of Ultron and Ironman 3) >that they have zero issue deviating wildly from the source material to the >detriment of the story and the characters.

    For casual fans, hearing this from someone like DeMayo confirms everything they heard via "rumors & leaks" that escape from Hollywood thanks to
    anonymous sources. The vast majority of those who made the Infinity Saga the most lucrative film franchise in history were casual fans like myself.

    As a casual fan, I *enjoy* learning the lore from the films. Comic book lore has never been a problem. It's not complex or difficult to understand for
    male fans and the ladies don't that interested in Marvel. I've never met a casual fan like myself who struggled to understand a Marvel show.

    I'd argue that Marvel's recent projects were too light on lore, but I never bothered watching them, so I wouldn't know. I don't have much interest in the upcoming Doomsday films, and I'm one of those casual fans who watched several of the Infinity Saga films in theaters.

    There's little buzz surrounding the Doomsday films, because they sound like more of the same film-by-committee bullshit that Marvel has been churning out for the past 8 YEARS. Marvel is just as damaged as Star Wars, but Disney hasn't figured that out yet.


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  • From Paul S Person@psperson@old.netcom.invalid to rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.animation,rec.arts.comics.marvel.universe,rec.arts.disney.animation,rec.arts.sf.tv on Sat Aug 16 08:33:11 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.animation

    On Fri, 15 Aug 2025 15:40:49 -0400, "john" <john@hamiltonhall.info>
    wrote:
    ssica6449990@alertas6.safiracorbonita.cfd wrote:
    In article <1074mlj$m6da$3@dont-email.me>, weberm@polaris.net wrote:

    The Creator and Producer of X-Men '97, Beau DeMayo, went on something of a >>>posting binge on X Saturday, describing in detail the problems he had with >>>Marvel executives while trying to do a comic book show that respected fans >>>and the source material. In the process, he revealed some major truths >>>about what goes on behind the scenes at Marvel, and it explains a LOT about >>>why so many MCU projects go wrong. This is a MUST SEE folks, and an >>>inspiration - clearly Beau DeMayo gets it, and we need more people like him >>>in Hollywood! #marvel #mcu #disney

    https://youtu.be/ijrMi6HhGlU?si=j4HnsJ8x2kWDTcBt

    We didn't need to be told this. It has been obvious to any comic fan since >>the middle of Marvel phase 2 (looking at you Age of Ultron and Ironman 3) >>that they have zero issue deviating wildly from the source material to the >>detriment of the story and the characters.

    ItAs funny going back now and rewatching the old "bad" MCU films after what >weAve been served the last half decade. TheyAre masterpieces, comparatively. If you are referring to the original /Hulk/, the original Spider-Man
    trilogy, the original X-Men trilogy -- you are correct.
    I have very very few recent Marvel movies on DVD or BD. I stream most
    of them; they generally fall into two categories an "upper half" which
    is at least minimally entertaining and a "lower half" which isn't even
    that.
    I don't read the comics, BTW, so I look at these solely as movies. As
    a group, they are generally worth watching once, which is better than
    those I regret watching but not anything I would ever want to watch
    again.
    --
    "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
    Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
    Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"
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  • From giorgioarma12@giorgioarma12@gmail.com to rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.animation,rec.arts.comics.marvel.universe,rec.arts.disney.animation,rec.arts.sf.tv on Mon Aug 18 09:44:50 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.animation

    ssica6449990@alertas6.safiracorbonita.cfd wrote:
    In article <1074mlj$m6da$3@dont-email.me>, weberm@polaris.net wrote:

    The Creator and Producer of X-Men '97, Beau DeMayo, went on something of a >>posting binge on X Saturday, describing in detail the problems he had with >>Marvel executives while trying to do a comic book show that respected fans >>and the source material. In the process, he revealed some major truths >>about what goes on behind the scenes at Marvel, and it explains a LOT about >>why so many MCU projects go wrong. This is a MUST SEE folks, and an >>inspiration - clearly Beau DeMayo gets it, and we need more people like him >>in Hollywood! #marvel #mcu #disney

    https://youtu.be/ijrMi6HhGlU?si=j4HnsJ8x2kWDTcBt

    We didn't need to be told this. It has been obvious to any comic fan since >the middle of Marvel phase 2 (looking at you Age of Ultron and Ironman 3) >that they have zero issue deviating wildly from the source material to the >detriment of the story and the characters.

    YES THANK YOU

    I like both of those movies but even then I took issue with them deviating from the source material which is just so much more richer than the final product

    And I stand by my sentiment that Ultron should have been it's own trilogy where ultron was kept around much longer

    It's a travesty that James Spader was wasted he is the perfect villain

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  • From Mariann Rivas@mariann.rivas@vorecol-mail.com to rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.animation,rec.arts.comics.marvel.universe,rec.arts.disney.animation,rec.arts.sf.tv on Thu Aug 21 16:10:31 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.animation

    Iossica <Iossica6449990@alertas6.safiracorbonita.cfd> wrote:
    In article <1074mlj$m6da$3@dont-email.me>, weberm@polaris.net wrote:

    The Creator and Producer of X-Men '97, Beau DeMayo, went on something of a >>posting binge on X Saturday, describing in detail the problems he had with >>Marvel executives while trying to do a comic book show that respected fans >>and the source material. In the process, he revealed some major truths >>about what goes on behind the scenes at Marvel, and it explains a LOT about >>why so many MCU projects go wrong. This is a MUST SEE folks, and an >>inspiration - clearly Beau DeMayo gets it, and we need more people like him >>in Hollywood! #marvel #mcu #disney

    https://youtu.be/ijrMi6HhGlU?si=j4HnsJ8x2kWDTcBt

    We didn't need to be told this. It has been obvious to any comic fan since >the middle of Marvel phase 2 (looking at you Age of Ultron and Ironman 3) >that they have zero issue deviating wildly from the source material to the >detriment of the story and the characters.

    I thought X-Men 97 was mid it was good to see them back but it lacks something... Something with the story I thought.. and I hated Rogues new voice... And where is Iceman still

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  • From James Fabiano@jmfabianorpl@gmail.com to rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.animation,rec.arts.comics.marvel.universe,rec.arts.disney.animation,rec.arts.sf.tv on Fri Aug 29 15:35:34 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.animation

    In article <20250808200752.B1DFE4228B@alertas6.safiracorbonita.cfd>, j? ssica6449990@alertas6.safiracorbonita.cfd wrote:
    In article <1074mlj$m6da$3@dont-email.me>, weberm@polaris.net wrote:

    The Creator and Producer of X-Men '97, Beau DeMayo, went on something of a >>posting binge on X Saturday, describing in detail the problems he had with >>Marvel executives while trying to do a comic book show that respected fans >>and the source material. In the process, he revealed some major truths >>about what goes on behind the scenes at Marvel, and it explains a LOT about >>why so many MCU projects go wrong. This is a MUST SEE folks, and an >>inspiration - clearly Beau DeMayo gets it, and we need more people like him >>in Hollywood! #marvel #mcu #disney

    https://youtu.be/ijrMi6HhGlU?si=j4HnsJ8x2kWDTcBt

    We didn't need to be told this. It has been obvious to any comic fan since >the middle of Marvel phase 2 (looking at you Age of Ultron and Ironman 3) >that they have zero issue deviating wildly from the source material to the >detriment of the story and the characters.

    It needs to be said. Again. And. Again..

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  • From super70s@super70s@super70s.invalid to rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.animation,rec.arts.comics.marvel.universe,rec.arts.disney.animation,rec.arts.sf.tv on Fri Aug 29 22:45:16 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.animation

    On 2025-08-08 21:59:07 +0000, Jossica said:

    In article <20250808200752.B1DFE4228B@alertas6.safiracorbonita.cfd>, j? ssica6449990@alertas6.safiracorbonita.cfd wrote:


    In article <1074mlj$m6da$3@dont-email.me>, weberm@polaris.net wrote:

    The Creator and Producer of X-Men '97, Beau DeMayo, went on something of a >>posting binge on X Saturday, describing in detail the problems he had with >>Marvel executives while trying to do a comic book show that respected fans >>and the source material. In the process, he revealed some major truths >>about what goes on behind the scenes at Marvel, and it explains a LOT about >>why so many MCU projects go wrong. This is a MUST SEE folks, and an >>inspiration - clearly Beau DeMayo gets it, and we need more people like him >>in Hollywood! #marvel #mcu #disney

    https://youtu.be/ijrMi6HhGlU?si=j4HnsJ8x2kWDTcBt

    We didn't need to be told this. It has been obvious to any comic fan since >the middle of Marvel phase 2 (looking at you Age of Ultron and Ironman 3) >that they have zero issue deviating wildly from the source material to the >detriment of the story and the characters.

    It needs to be said. Again. And. Again..

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