• Damien Grant on Swarbrick

    From Tony@lizandtony@orcon.net.nz to nz.general,nz.politics on Sat Oct 11 18:45:01 2025
    From Newsgroup: nz.politics

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360850060/chloe-swarbrick-how-should-we-define-her-contribution-politics
    He has got it.
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  • From greybeard@nobody@nowhere.invalid to nz.general,nz.politics on Mon Oct 13 09:53:57 2025
    From Newsgroup: nz.politics

    On 12/10/25 07:45, Tony wrote:
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360850060/chloe-swarbrick-how-should-we-define-her-contribution-politics
    He has got it.



    Total crap. An attempt to redefine the term "genocide", then claiming
    the term is too difficult for average Joe to understand.
    The International Court of Justice (ICJ) found that there was a case to
    be heard and so the average Joe has a valid legal basis for using
    'genocide' in describing the events in Gaza. And so does Swarbrick.

    The MAGA Zionists; PM Lux, Deputy PM Seymour, Foreign Minister Winston, Defence Minister Crusher are all giving Trump a b_job.
    NZ is a signatory to ICJ and they have duty to uphold and respect it.




    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/world/507667/south-african-president-hails-ruling-against-israel-as-step-toward-justice

    "The World Court ordered Israel on Friday to prevent acts of genocide
    against the Palestinians and do more to help civilians,
    although it stopped short of ordering a ceasefire as requested by the plaintiff South Africa.
    While the ruling denied Palestinian hopes of a binding order to halt the
    war in Gaza, it also represented a legal setback
    for Israel, which had hoped to throw out a case brought under the
    genocide convention established in the ashes of the Holocaust.
    The International Court of Justice (ICJ) found that there was a case to
    be heard about whether Palestinian rights were being
    denied in a war it said was causing grievous humanitarian harm."


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  • From Tony@lizandtony@orcon.net.nz to nz.general,nz.politics on Sun Oct 12 21:10:41 2025
    From Newsgroup: nz.politics

    greybeard <nobody@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
    On 12/10/25 07:45, Tony wrote:
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360850060/chloe-swarbrick-how-should-we-define-her-contribution-politics
    He has got it.



    Total crap. An attempt to redefine the term "genocide", then claiming
    the term is too difficult for average Joe to understand.
    The International Court of Justice (ICJ) found that there was a case to
    be heard and so the average Joe has a valid legal basis for using
    'genocide' in describing the events in Gaza. And so does Swarbrick.

    The MAGA Zionists; PM Lux, Deputy PM Seymour, Foreign Minister Winston, >Defence Minister Crusher are all giving Trump a b_job.
    NZ is a signatory to ICJ and they have duty to uphold and respect it.




    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/world/507667/south-african-president-hails-ruling-against-israel-as-step-toward-justice

    "The World Court ordered Israel on Friday to prevent acts of genocide >against the Palestinians and do more to help civilians,
    although it stopped short of ordering a ceasefire as requested by the >plaintiff South Africa.
    While the ruling denied Palestinian hopes of a binding order to halt the
    war in Gaza, it also represented a legal setback
    for Israel, which had hoped to throw out a case brought under the
    genocide convention established in the ashes of the Holocaust.
    The International Court of Justice (ICJ) found that there was a case to
    be heard about whether Palestinian rights were being
    denied in a war it said was causing grievous humanitarian harm."
    Yes, another person unable to understand that there are two sides to this tragedy.
    Sad really.
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  • From greybeard@nobody@nowhere.invalid to nz.general,nz.politics on Mon Oct 13 10:42:12 2025
    From Newsgroup: nz.politics

    On 13/10/25 10:10, Tony wrote:
    greybeard <nobody@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
    On 12/10/25 07:45, Tony wrote:

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360850060/chloe-swarbrick-how-should-we-define-her-contribution-politics
    He has got it.



    Total crap. An attempt to redefine the term "genocide", then claiming
    the term is too difficult for average Joe to understand.
    The International Court of Justice (ICJ) found that there was a case to
    be heard and so the average Joe has a valid legal basis for using
    'genocide' in describing the events in Gaza. And so does Swarbrick.

    The MAGA Zionists; PM Lux, Deputy PM Seymour, Foreign Minister Winston,
    Defence Minister Crusher are all giving Trump a b_job.
    NZ is a signatory to ICJ and they have duty to uphold and respect it.




    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/world/507667/south-african-president-hails-ruling-against-israel-as-step-toward-justice

    "The World Court ordered Israel on Friday to prevent acts of genocide
    against the Palestinians and do more to help civilians,
    although it stopped short of ordering a ceasefire as requested by the
    plaintiff South Africa.
    While the ruling denied Palestinian hopes of a binding order to halt the
    war in Gaza, it also represented a legal setback
    for Israel, which had hoped to throw out a case brought under the
    genocide convention established in the ashes of the Holocaust.
    The International Court of Justice (ICJ) found that there was a case to
    be heard about whether Palestinian rights were being
    denied in a war it said was causing grievous humanitarian harm."
    Yes, another person unable to understand that there are two sides to this tragedy.
    Sad really.

    Please explain. What 'side' am I missing? What did the ICJ fail to
    consider in it's determination?




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  • From Tony@lizandtony@orcon.net.nz to nz.general,nz.politics on Sun Oct 12 22:16:18 2025
    From Newsgroup: nz.politics

    greybeard <nobody@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
    On 13/10/25 10:10, Tony wrote:
    greybeard <nobody@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
    On 12/10/25 07:45, Tony wrote:

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360850060/chloe-swarbrick-how-should-we-define-her-contribution-politics
    He has got it.



    Total crap. An attempt to redefine the term "genocide", then claiming
    the term is too difficult for average Joe to understand.
    The International Court of Justice (ICJ) found that there was a case to
    be heard and so the average Joe has a valid legal basis for using
    'genocide' in describing the events in Gaza. And so does Swarbrick.

    The MAGA Zionists; PM Lux, Deputy PM Seymour, Foreign Minister Winston,
    Defence Minister Crusher are all giving Trump a b_job.
    NZ is a signatory to ICJ and they have duty to uphold and respect it.




    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/world/507667/south-african-president-hails-ruling-against-israel-as-step-toward-justice

    "The World Court ordered Israel on Friday to prevent acts of genocide
    against the Palestinians and do more to help civilians,
    although it stopped short of ordering a ceasefire as requested by the
    plaintiff South Africa.
    While the ruling denied Palestinian hopes of a binding order to halt the >>> war in Gaza, it also represented a legal setback
    for Israel, which had hoped to throw out a case brought under the
    genocide convention established in the ashes of the Holocaust.
    The International Court of Justice (ICJ) found that there was a case to
    be heard about whether Palestinian rights were being
    denied in a war it said was causing grievous humanitarian harm."
    Yes, another person unable to understand that there are two sides to this
    tragedy.
    Sad really.

    Please explain. What 'side' am I missing? What did the ICJ fail to
    consider in it's determination?
    I was referring to the core of this issue which is the conflict in Gaza and surrounding countries, not the ICJ.
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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to nz.general,nz.politics on Sun Oct 12 23:01:34 2025
    From Newsgroup: nz.politics

    On Mon, 13 Oct 2025 10:42:12 +1300, greybeard wrote:

    Please explain. What 'side' am I missing? What did the ICJ fail to
    consider in it's determination?

    The fact that the Jews are rCLGodrCOs Chosen PeoplerCY and the Palestinians are
    not.

    The fact that the Evangelical Christians need the state of Israel to
    fulfil some prophecy they have about the Coming of the End Times. (Which
    they look forward to, and damn the rest of us.)

    But really itrCOs about having a place where Jews can rCLvoluntarily emigraterCY
    to so Christians donrCOt have to have them around as a daily reminder of centuries of persecution of the former by the latter, culminating in that
    orgy of slaughter by a murderous nutcase group that saw themselves (and
    were seen by others) as very much Christian in their beliefs.
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