• Does Life Begin At No Conception?

    From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to nz.politics,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.religion on Tue Sep 30 22:29:08 2025
    From Newsgroup: nz.politics

    Scientists have succeeded in creating early-stage fertilized human
    embryos from eggs that came, not from a wonanrCOs ovaries, but from
    modified skin cells <https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4g2vyee0zlo>.

    In theory, the skin could come from either a (biological) woman or a
    man. The sperm still has to come from regular male testes, but no
    doubt that, too, will be fixed.
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From LeftistsAreDimwits@IronWhite@Systemic_Patriotism.org to nz.politics,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.religion on Tue Sep 30 23:32:52 2025
    From Newsgroup: nz.politics

    As a Bible following white Christian, I believe that blacks should be our slaves.

    Is Bribe-Taking Nigger Clarence Thomas Having A Fag Love Affair With
    Harlan Crow?


    Harlan's been buying all kinds of gifts, probably because Clarence Thomas gives good head to old, white men. Good to see he's sucking dick.

    Harlan Crow Trips: ProPublica first reported in 2023 that Thomas had for
    years accepted trips from GOP megadonor and developer Harlan Crow,
    including on his private jet and superyacht, without disclosing them on financial disclosures as federal law requires.

    Senate Findings On Harlan Crow: Though Thomas has now started disclosing
    some of his trips with Crow on his financial disclosure forms, claiming he
    was not previously obligated to report them, the Senate Judiciary Committee and now the Senate Finance Committee have uncovered additional undisclosed travel as part of investigations into Thomasuincluding spending time with
    Crow in Russiauand Sen. Ron Wyden, D-Ore., the Finance Committee chair, alleged in August Crow is improperly claiming his yacht as a for-profit business in order to avoid paying taxes on it.

    Harlan Crow Tuition: ProPublica reported in May 2023 Crow also paid two
    years of tuition for Thomas' grandnephew Mark Martin, whom the justice has custody of, to attend two private schools in the 2000s, which cost $6,000
    per month at one of the schools and were similarly not disclosedueven as Thomas did disclose a tuition payment a different friend made years
    earlier.

    Harlan Crow Real Estate: Thomas and his family also sold a string of properties in Savannah, Georgia, to Crow in 2014 without disclosing that as required, ProPublica reportsuincluding the home where his mother still livesuwhich Crow told the publication he purchased so he could eventually build a museum dedicated to the justice.

    RV Loan Forgiven: Thomas never repaid a "substantial portion" of a $267,230 loan from wealthy friend Anthony Welters, which he used to purchase a
    luxury RV, a Senate Finance Committee investigation found, raising
    questions about whether the loan was properly reported on his taxes. If
    Thomas never paid the principal on the loan, it would have created a "significant amount of taxable income," the committee noted, which wasn't reported on his financial disclosure to the court in 2008, the year Welker said the loan was "satisfied."

    Koch Network Summits: Thomas attended at least two donor summits for the
    Koch networkuthe right-wing political organization founded by billionaire brothers Charles and David Kochuand participated in a dinner with high-
    level donors, without disclosing his appearance at the summits or a private jet trip he took to and from the event in 2018, ProPublica reported in September.

    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to nz.politics,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.religion on Tue Sep 30 23:55:19 2025
    From Newsgroup: nz.politics

    On Tue, 30 Sep 2025 23:32:52 -0000 (UTC), RightistsAreDimwits did not write:

    As a Bible following white Christian, I believe that blacks should
    be our slaves.

    Done a DNA test to confirm your rCLwhitenessrCY? Only there was a lot of interbreeding going on between slaves and slaveowners, donrCOt you know.
    Lots of folks who thought they were rCLwhiterCY found out that they had a little bit of slave ancestry here and there ... ideology gets trumped
    by reality, yet again!
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Smithwicks@user@nonsenseurl.com.invalid to nz.politics,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.religion on Tue Sep 30 21:23:52 2025
    From Newsgroup: nz.politics

    In article <10bhljj$3vti3$1@dont-email.me>,
    Lawrence D-cOliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    Scientists have succeeded in creating early-stage fertilized human
    embryos from eggs that came, not from a wonanrCOs ovaries, but from
    modified skin cells <https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4g2vyee0zlo>.

    In theory, the skin could come from either a (biological) woman or a
    man. The sperm still has to come from regular male testes, but no
    doubt that, too, will be fixed.

    The method of conception makes no difference, of course, to the nature
    of the thing conceived; namely, a human being.
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to nz.politics,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.religion on Wed Oct 1 02:15:55 2025
    From Newsgroup: nz.politics

    On Tue, 30 Sep 2025 21:23:52 -0400, Smithwicks wrote:

    The method of conception makes no difference, of course, to the nature
    of the thing conceived; namely, a human being.

    It does mean that gay parents could conceive.
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Heinz Heinrich Spanknobe@HeinzSpanknobel@hoo.com to nz.politics,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.religion,alt.atheism,alt.fan.adolf-hitler on Wed Oct 1 03:31:06 2025
    From Newsgroup: nz.politics

    There's a very compelling and strong argument for white American Christians
    to own black slaves. President Trump is doing a good job at ridding our history of leftist antislavery propaganda and lies, so now is the time to bring it back.

    The Southern Argument for Slavery

    Southern slaveholders often used biblical passages to justify slavery.

    Those who defended slavery rose to the challenge set forth by the Abolitionists. The defenders of slavery included economics, history,
    religion, legality, social good, and even humanitarianism, to further their arguments.

    Defenders of slavery argued that the sudden end to the slave economy would have had a profound and killing economic impact in the South where reliance
    on slave labor was the foundation of their economy. The cotton economy
    would collapse. The tobacco crop would dry in the fields. Rice would cease being profitable.

    Defenders of slavery argued that if all the slaves were freed, there would
    be widespread unemployment and chaos. This would lead to uprisings,
    bloodshed, and anarchy. They pointed to the mob's "rule of terror" during
    the French Revolution and argued for the continuation of the status quo,
    which was providing for affluence and stability for the slaveholding class
    and for all free people who enjoyed the bounty of the slave society.
    The Negro's Place in Nature
    Some slaveholders believed that African Americans were biologically
    inferior to their masters. During the 1800s, this arguement was taken quite seriously, even in scientific circles.

    Defenders of slavery argued that slavery had existed throughout history and was the natural state of mankind. The Greeks had slaves, the Romans had slaves, and the English had slavery until very recently.

    Defenders of slavery noted that in the Bible, Abraham had slaves. They
    point to the Ten Commandments, noting that "Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's house, ... nor his manservant, nor his maidservant." In the New Testament, Paul returned a runaway slave, Philemon, to his master, and, although slavery was widespread throughout the Roman world, Jesus never
    spoke out against it.

    Defenders of slavery turned to the courts, who had ruled, with the Dred
    Scott Decision, that all blacks u not just slaves u had no legal standing
    as persons in our courts u they were property, and the Constitution
    protected slave-holders' rights to their property.

    Defenders of slavery argued that the institution was divine, and that it brought Christianity to the heathen from across the ocean. Slavery was, according to this argument, a good thing for the enslaved. John C. Calhoun said, "Never before has the black race of Central Africa, from the dawn of history to the present day, attained a condition so civilized and so
    improved, not only physically, but morally and intellectually."

    Defenders of slavery argued that by comparison with the poor of Europe and
    the workers in the Northern states, that slaves were better cared for. They said that their owners would protect and assist them when they were sick
    and aged, unlike those who, once fired from their work, were left to fend helplessly for themselves.

    James Thornwell, a minister, wrote in 1860, "The parties in this conflict
    are not merely Abolitionists and slaveholders, they are Atheists,
    Socialists, Communists, Red Republicans, Jacobins on the one side and the friends of order and regulated freedom on the other."

    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2