• =?UTF-8?B?8J+HrPCfh6c=?= Green By-Election Win Rattles Labour And Enrages Far-Right

    From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to nz.politics,uk.politics.misc,alt.politics on Sun Mar 1 21:19:41 2026
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    Living in a country where the Greens have had a significant
    Parliamentary presence going back decades, it bemuses me to read how earth-shaking it seems for Hannah Spencer to have won the Gordon and
    Denton seat in the UK <https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/after-byelection-pummelling-britains-prime-minister-faces-growing-pressures-from-right-and-left/6LLIEGHMSZDH3OASYMQDD65SMA/>.

    Here in NZ, we have had coalition politics as a matter of course,
    going back 30 years now. Multiparty democracy is not a zero-sum game;
    the parties learn to cooperate where it suits them to get certain
    things done, while still managing to disagree on many matters. Surely
    it would be a good thing for the UK to have more of it, not less.

    So poor Farage is crying foul, being pipped at the post by the
    disaffection with Labour that he was counting on, swinging in
    completely the opposite direction, away from him, rather than towards
    him, as he was expecting. Diddums.
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  • From Gordon@Gordon@leaf.net.nz to nz.politics on Mon Mar 2 00:47:20 2026
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    On 2026-03-01, Lawrence DrCOOliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
    Living in a country where the Greens have had a significant
    Parliamentary presence going back decades, it bemuses me to read how earth-shaking it seems for Hannah Spencer to have won the Gordon and
    Denton seat in the UK
    <https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/after-byelection-pummelling-britains-prime-minister-faces-growing-pressures-from-right-and-left/6LLIEGHMSZDH3OASYMQDD65SMA/>.

    Here in NZ, we have had coalition politics as a matter of course,
    going back 30 years now. Multiparty democracy is not a zero-sum game;
    the parties learn to cooperate where it suits them to get certain
    things done, while still managing to disagree on many matters. Surely
    it would be a good thing for the UK to have more of it, not less.

    So poor Farage is crying foul, being pipped at the post by the
    disaffection with Labour that he was counting on, swinging in
    completely the opposite direction, away from him, rather than towards
    him, as he was expecting. Diddums.

    First, it is a well known saying that voters do not vote the say way as
    would do in a General Election.
    Secondly, the UK is disintergrating. The masses are starting to get angry.
    This by-election result is a message to the people and to the Government.

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  • From Joe@joe@jretrading.com to nz.politics,uk.politics.misc,alt.politics on Mon Mar 2 10:38:06 2026
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    On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 21:19:41 -0000 (UTC)
    Lawrence DrCOOliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
    Living in a country where the Greens have had a significant
    Parliamentary presence going back decades, it bemuses me to read how earth-shaking it seems for Hannah Spencer to have won the Gordon and
    Denton seat in the UK <https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/after-byelection-pummelling-britains-prime-minister-faces-growing-pressures-from-right-and-left/6LLIEGHMSZDH3OASYMQDD65SMA/>.

    Here in NZ, we have had coalition politics as a matter of course,
    going back 30 years now. Multiparty democracy is not a zero-sum game;
    the parties learn to cooperate where it suits them to get certain
    things done, while still managing to disagree on many matters. Surely
    it would be a good thing for the UK to have more of it, not less.

    So poor Farage is crying foul, being pipped at the post by the
    disaffection with Labour that he was counting on, swinging in
    completely the opposite direction, away from him, rather than towards
    him, as he was expecting. Diddums.
    You may have missed the point here. The Green party held Brighton
    council for years, nobody is bothered about it apart from the people
    who live there.
    This bye-election was fought and voted on tribal lines to a great
    extent, with families literally voting as a group, and Moslems
    insulting Hindus and vice versa. When entire religions vote as their
    leaders instruct, that isn't democracy.
    --
    Joe
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  • From JNugent@JNugent73@mail.com to nz.politics,uk.politics.misc,alt.politics on Mon Mar 2 12:23:49 2026
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    On 02/03/2026 10:38 am, Joe wrote:

    Lawrence DrCOOliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    Living in a country where the Greens have had a significant
    Parliamentary presence going back decades, it bemuses me to read how
    earth-shaking it seems for Hannah Spencer to have won the Gordon and
    Denton seat in the UK
    <https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/after-byelection-pummelling-britains-prime-minister-faces-growing-pressures-from-right-and-left/6LLIEGHMSZDH3OASYMQDD65SMA/>.

    Here in NZ, we have had coalition politics as a matter of course,
    going back 30 years now. Multiparty democracy is not a zero-sum game;
    the parties learn to cooperate where it suits them to get certain
    things done, while still managing to disagree on many matters. Surely
    it would be a good thing for the UK to have more of it, not less.

    So poor Farage is crying foul, being pipped at the post by the
    disaffection with Labour that he was counting on, swinging in
    completely the opposite direction, away from him, rather than towards
    him, as he was expecting. Diddums.

    You may have missed the point here. The Green party held Brighton
    council for years, nobody is bothered about it apart from the people
    who live there.

    ...and those of us who had to visit the place for work. That, quite
    often, included me. Let me advise you that car-parking is treated as a
    crime by the Green loonies, who do everything they can to make it
    difficult and expensive (not that the expense was a problem for me).

    This bye-election was fought and voted on tribal lines to a great
    extent, with families literally voting as a group, and Moslems
    insulting Hindus and vice versa. When entire religions vote as their
    leaders instruct, that isn't democracy.
    I wonder why I didn't see the OP by Lawrence D'Oliveiro?
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