Another top-level resignation from the panel conducting the inquiryOK you are officially a lunatic. It is you that has the ideological drive as winessed here hundreds of times.
into NZrCOs handling of the COVID-19 pandemic -- is this the second
executive director theyrCOve lost now?
<https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/360893236/covid-inquiry-hit-yet-another-top-level-resignation>
The circumstances around the setting up of this inquiry always seemed
a bit dodgy to me. I think certain members of the current Coalition
harbour lingering resentments over the Ardern-led GovernmentrCOs
handling of the crisis, and are determined to settle a score or two
against those in charge at the time -- purely for ideological reasons.
Totally overlooking the fact that our decisiveness at the time, forAnother deliberate twisting of the facts. Why you and others like you continue this charade is mind-warping.
all the pain that it caused, made a spectacular difference in our
avoiding worse pain and suffering -- as amply illustrated by any
number of other countries (starting with the US and UK) where
leadership dillied and dallied, or outright insisted that the
seriousness of the issue was a rCLhoaxrCY, that it would all somehow blow >over if they buried their heads in the sand and forgot about it.
It didnrCOt. And millions died.
Another top-level resignation from the panel conducting the inquiry
into NZrCOs handling of the COVID-19 pandemic -- is this the second
executive director theyrCOve lost now?
<https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/360893236/covid-inquiry-hit-yet-another-top-level-resignation>
The circumstances around the setting up of this inquiry always seemed
a bit dodgy to me. I think certain members of the current Coalition
harbour lingering resentments over the Ardern-led GovernmentrCOs
handling of the crisis, and are determined to settle a score or two
against those in charge at the time -- purely for ideological reasons.
Totally overlooking the fact that our decisiveness at the time, for--- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
all the pain that it caused, made a spectacular difference in our
avoiding worse pain and suffering -- as amply illustrated by any
number of other countries (starting with the US and UK) where
leadership dillied and dallied, or outright insisted that the
seriousness of the issue was a rCLhoaxrCY, that it would all somehow blow over if they buried their heads in the sand and forgot about it.
It didnrCOt. And millions died.
On 2025-11-20, Lawrence DrCOOliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
Another top-level resignation from the panel conducting the inquiry
into NZrCOs handling of the COVID-19 pandemic -- is this the second
executive director theyrCOve lost now?
<https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/360893236/covid-inquiry-hit-yet-another-top-level-resignation>
The circumstances around the setting up of this inquiry always seemed
a bit dodgy to me. I think certain members of the current Coalition
harbour lingering resentments over the Ardern-led GovernmentrCOs
handling of the crisis, and are determined to settle a score or two
against those in charge at the time -- purely for ideological reasons.
It maybe the Arden's response which has so many people angry was more to do with the authorian approach than the party/Government in power.
The people whant to know what had happen behind the scenes and thus complete transparancy of the whole event.
Totally overlooking the fact that our decisiveness at the time, for
all the pain that it caused, made a spectacular difference in our
avoiding worse pain and suffering -- as amply illustrated by any
number of other countries (starting with the US and UK) where
leadership dillied and dallied, or outright insisted that the
seriousness of the issue was a rCLhoaxrCY, that it would all somehow blow
over if they buried their heads in the sand and forgot about it.
It didnrCOt. And millions died.
On 2025-11-20 20:42:01 +0000, Gordon said:
On 2025-11-20, Lawrence DAOliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
Another top-level resignation from the panel conducting the inquiry
into NZAs handling of the COVID-19 pandemic -- is this the second
executive director theyAve lost now?
<https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/360893236/covid-inquiry-hit-yet-another-top-level-resignation>
The circumstances around the setting up of this inquiry always seemed
a bit dodgy to me. I think certain members of the current Coalition
harbour lingering resentments over the Ardern-led GovernmentAs
handling of the crisis, and are determined to settle a score or two
against those in charge at the time -- purely for ideological reasons.
It maybe the Arden's response which has so many people angry was more to do >> with the authorian approach than the party/Government in power.
The people whant to know what had happen behind the scenes and thus complete >> transparancy of the whole event.
"The people" couldn't care less. It's history and they simply want to
get on with their lives.
The whinging morons who have nothing better to do are the one's
continually dragging this crap up ... and it's not just in New Zealand >either. There are morons all over the world whining on about how their >government was "too quick", "too slow", "too long", "too short", ...
:-\
UK did 'too little, too late', leading to thousands more
Covid deaths, says inquiry
<https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c8030xvvlv0o>
Fankly, with the next pandemic, government should just say sod it" and
let millions of people die if they don't want to get vaccinated, stay
home, etc. At least it would then massively increase the average >intelligence of the human race by getting rid of all the morons!
Totally overlooking the fact that our decisiveness at the time, for
all the pain that it caused, made a spectacular difference in our
avoiding worse pain and suffering -- as amply illustrated by any
number of other countries (starting with the US and UK) where
leadership dillied and dallied, or outright insisted that the
seriousness of the issue was a ohoaxo, that it would all somehow blow
over if they buried their heads in the sand and forgot about it.
It didnAt. And millions died.
Totally overlooking the fact that our decisiveness at the time, for
all the pain that it caused, made a spectacular difference in our
avoiding worse pain and suffering -- as amply illustrated by any
number of other countries (starting with the US and UK) where
leadership dillied and dallied, or outright insisted that the
seriousness of the issue was a rCLhoaxrCY, that it would all somehow
blow over if they buried their heads in the sand and forgot about
it.
It didnrCOt. And millions died.
On Fri, 21 Nov 2025 10:38:03 +1300, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com>And not very good ones either. The idea that we forget about what happened is anathema to me, there were so many terrible decisions driven by greed, political dogma and stupidity that we must learn from what was done in just about every country.
wrote:
On 2025-11-20 20:42:01 +0000, Gordon said:Vaccination rates are dependent on the fatality rate for those
On 2025-11-20, Lawrence DAOliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
Another top-level resignation from the panel conducting the inquiry
into NZAs handling of the COVID-19 pandemic -- is this the second
executive director theyAve lost now?
<https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/360893236/covid-inquiry-hit-yet-another-top-level-resignation>
The circumstances around the setting up of this inquiry always seemed
a bit dodgy to me. I think certain members of the current Coalition
harbour lingering resentments over the Ardern-led GovernmentAs
handling of the crisis, and are determined to settle a score or two
against those in charge at the time -- purely for ideological reasons.
It maybe the Arden's response which has so many people angry was more to do >>> with the authorian approach than the party/Government in power.
The people whant to know what had happen behind the scenes and thus complete
transparancy of the whole event.
"The people" couldn't care less. It's history and they simply want to
get on with their lives.
The whinging morons who have nothing better to do are the one's >>continually dragging this crap up ... and it's not just in New Zealand >>either. There are morons all over the world whining on about how their >>government was "too quick", "too slow", "too long", "too short", ...
:-\
UK did 'too little, too late', leading to thousands more
Covid deaths, says inquiry
<https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c8030xvvlv0o>
Fankly, with the next pandemic, government should just say sod it" and
let millions of people die if they don't want to get vaccinated, stay >>home, etc. At least it would then massively increase the average >>intelligence of the human race by getting rid of all the morons!
infected. With Covid 19 this was low, compared to other plagues of
the past. It will also be dependent in how preventive the 'vaccine'
is. Covid 19 vaccines are nothing more than immunity boosters.
Totally overlooking the fact that our decisiveness at the time, for
all the pain that it caused, made a spectacular difference in our
avoiding worse pain and suffering -- as amply illustrated by any
number of other countries (starting with the US and UK) where
leadership dillied and dallied, or outright insisted that the
seriousness of the issue was a ohoaxo, that it would all somehow blow
over if they buried their heads in the sand and forgot about it.
It didnAt. And millions died.
--
Crash McBash
On Thu, 20 Nov 2025 00:04:54 -0000 (UTC), I wrote:We and in fact almost every country suffered far more than was necessary.
Totally overlooking the fact that our decisiveness at the time, for
all the pain that it caused, made a spectacular difference in our
avoiding worse pain and suffering -- as amply illustrated by any
number of other countries (starting with the US and UK) where
leadership dillied and dallied, or outright insisted that the
seriousness of the issue was a rCLhoaxrCY, that it would all somehow
blow over if they buried their heads in the sand and forgot about
it.
It didnrCOt. And millions died.
Interestingly enough, the UK has just concluded their inquiry into
their own COVID-19 response ><https://www.itv.com/news/2025-11-20/seven-key-findings-from-the-covid-inquiry-on-uks-response-to-crisis>.
Key points:
* rCLToo little, too laterCY
The inquiry found the spread of the virus around the world
represented rCLclear warning signs,rCY but the four governments across
the UK did not take the virus seriously enough until it was rCLtoo
laterCY.
According to the inquiry, it rCLshould have been clear that the
virus posed a serious and immediate threatrCY, by the end of January
2020.
* Lockdown could have been avoided
Had more stringent restrictions been introduced earlier than March
16, rCLthe mandatory lockdown that was imposed might have been
shorter or conceivably might not have been necessary at allrCY.
* Repeated mistakes
Similar mistakes were then repeated later in 2020 as the second
lockdown approached, all of which were rCLinexcusablerCY.
* Impact of Downing Street parties
Alcohol-filled parties in Downing Street rCLundermined public
confidence in decision-makingrCY and significantly increased the
risk of the public abandoning lockdown rules.
* Confusing messaging
Frequent law changes rCLfuelled confusion, misunderstanding and, at
times, incorrect enforcementrCY.
...
[The report] added that Mr Johnson rCLshould have appreciated sooner
that this was an emergency that required prime ministerial
leadership to inject urgency into the responserCY.
* 'Lasting scars' on society
While the lockdowns of 2020 and 2021 undoubtedly saved lives, they
also rCLleft lasting scars on society and the economy, brought
ordinary childhood to a halt, delayed the diagnosis and treatment
of other health issues, and exacerbated societal inequalitiesrCY.
Slowness to act, reluctance to act decisively, failure to learn from
initial mistakes, do-as-I-say-not-as-I-do leadership hypocrisy at a
time of serious crisis ... all added up to suffering that was much
worse than it needed to be.
We suffered, too. But we got off lightly compared to them.
Another top-level resignation from the panel conducting the inquiry
into NZAs handling of the COVID-19 pandemic -- is this the second
executive director theyAve lost now?
<https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/360893236/covid-inquiry-hit-yet-another-top-level-resignation>
The circumstances around the setting up of this inquiry always seemed
a bit dodgy to me. I think certain members of the current Coalition
harbour lingering resentments over the Ardern-led GovernmentAs
handling of the crisis, and are determined to settle a score or two
against those in charge at the time -- purely for ideological reasons.
Totally overlooking the fact that our decisiveness at the time, for
all the pain that it caused, made a spectacular difference in our
avoiding worse pain and suffering -- as amply illustrated by any
number of other countries (starting with the US and UK) where
leadership dillied and dallied, or outright insisted that the
seriousness of the issue was a ohoaxo, that it would all somehow blow
over if they buried their heads in the sand and forgot about it.
It didnAt. And millions died.
On Fri, 21 Nov 2025 10:38:03 +1300, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
wrote:
On 2025-11-20 20:42:01 +0000, Gordon said:
On 2025-11-20, Lawrence DAOliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
Another top-level resignation from the panel conducting the inquiry
into NZAs handling of the COVID-19 pandemic -- is this the second
executive director theyAve lost now?
<https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/360893236/covid-inquiry-hit-yet-another-top-level-resignation>
The circumstances around the setting up of this inquiry always seemed
a bit dodgy to me. I think certain members of the current Coalition
harbour lingering resentments over the Ardern-led GovernmentAs
handling of the crisis, and are determined to settle a score or two
against those in charge at the time -- purely for ideological reasons.
It maybe the Arden's response which has so many people angry was more
to do with the authorian approach than the party/Government in power.
The people whant to know what had happen behind the scenes and thus
complete transparancy of the whole event.
"The people" couldn't care less. It's history and they simply want to
get on with their lives.
The whinging morons who have nothing better to do are the one's
continually dragging this crap up ... and it's not just in New Zealand
either. There are morons all over the world whining on about how their
government was "too quick", "too slow", "too long", "too short", ...
:-\
UK did 'too little, too late', leading to thousands more
Covid deaths, says inquiry
<https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c8030xvvlv0o>
Fankly, with the next pandemic, government should just say sod it" and
let millions of people die if they don't want to get vaccinated, stay
home, etc. At least it would then massively increase the average
intelligence of the human race by getting rid of all the morons!
Vaccination rates are dependent on the fatality rate for those
infected. With Covid 19 this was low, compared to other plagues of the past.
It will also be dependent in how preventive the 'vaccine' is. Covid 19 vaccines are nothing more than immunity boosters.
Many governments around the world, including the NZ government,
removed the option for doctors to prescribe cheap generic drugs like ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine for the prevention and treatment of
covid19 under penalty of de-registration.
On Fri, 21 Nov 2025 17:49:41 +1300, BR wrote:
Many governments around the world, including the NZ government,
removed the option for doctors to prescribe cheap generic drugs like
ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine for the prevention and treatment of
covid19 under penalty of de-registration.
LetAs just say, the country where that ivermectin/hydroxychloroquine >bullshit originated was the one that suffered most from COVID-19.
Coincidence? You be the judge.
Fankly, with the next pandemic, government should just say sod it" and
let millions of people die if they don't want to get vaccinated, stay
home, etc. At least it would then massively increase the average >intelligence of the human race by getting rid of all the morons!
On Fri, 21 Nov 2025, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
Fankly, with the next pandemic, government should just say "sod it" and
let millions of people die if they don't want to get vaccinated, stay
home, etc. At least it would then massively increase the average
intelligence of the human race by getting rid of all the morons!
Your recommended course of action is correct, but for the wrong
reasons. You still think vaccinations are a good thing -- you haven't learned.
People on this newsgroup had the benefit of my cogent analysis
throughout the 2020-2022 period. You missed that. If you look at my 2020-2022 postings at: https://groups.google.com/g/nz.general/search?q=willy%20nilly
then you will catch on.
The easy way to prevent the next pandemic is to convict and imprison
those people responsible for the last one. Fauci, etc.
On 2025-11-22 23:06:45 +0000, Willy Nilly said:
On Fri, 21 Nov 2025, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
Fankly, with the next pandemic, government should just say "sod it" and
let millions of people die if they don't want to get vaccinated, stay
home, etc. At least it would then massively increase the average
intelligence of the human race by getting rid of all the morons!
Your recommended course of action is correct, but for the wrong
reasons. You still think vaccinations are a good thing -- you haven't
learned.
What I want to believe is irrelevant - that was the point.
The health experts should still give the advice and tose who want to
get vaccines and stay home can, while those who don't want to need not
...
BUT those who don't and get sick should not get any government paid
medical care because *they* chose to ignore the advice, they should
live, or die, with the consequences.
The same should happen elsewhere too. If, for example, some fool
decides to climb a mountain and falls off or gets lost, then tough.
Don't waste money and other people's lives trying to rescue them - it
was their own choice, they should deal with the consequences.
People on this newsgroup had the benefit of my cogent analysis
throughout the 2020-2022 period. You missed that. If you look at my
2020-2022 postings at:
https://groups.google.com/g/nz.general/search?q=willy%20nilly
then you will catch on.
The easy way to prevent the next pandemic is to convict and imprison
those people responsible for the last one. Fauci, etc.
On Fri, 21 Nov 2025 07:05:15 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D|+Oliveiro
<ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
On Fri, 21 Nov 2025 17:49:41 +1300, BR wrote:
Many governments around the world, including the NZ government,
removed the option for doctors to prescribe cheap generic drugs like
ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine for the prevention and treatment of
covid19 under penalty of de-registration.
Let-As just say, the country where that ivermectin/hydroxychloroquine >>bullshit originated was the one that suffered most from COVID-19.
Coincidence? You be the judge.
How do you even know that? The covid death statistics were so fudged
and politicised that nobody really knows how many people actually died
of covid.
Remember that time somebody who was shot dead in the street was
included in the covid death statistics because covid was found in him
later during the post mortem?
Bill.
On 2025-11-23, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
On 2025-11-22 23:06:45 +0000, Willy Nilly said:
On Fri, 21 Nov 2025, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
Fankly, with the next pandemic, government should just say "sod it" and >>>> let millions of people die if they don't want to get vaccinated, stay
home, etc. At least it would then massively increase the average
intelligence of the human race by getting rid of all the morons!
Your recommended course of action is correct, but for the wrong
reasons. You still think vaccinations are a good thing -- you haven't
learned.
What I want to believe is irrelevant - that was the point.
The health experts should still give the advice and tose who want to
get vaccines and stay home can, while those who don't want to need not
...
In others a decomacray as normal, no mandates
BUT those who don't and get sick should not get any government paid
medical care because *they* chose to ignore the advice, they should
live, or die, with the consequences.
Some too the shot and died suddenly.
Let us also remember that President Biden has 6 booster shots and got covid
3 times. He was not along in this.
The same should happen elsewhere too. If, for example, some fool
decides to climb a mountain and falls off or gets lost, then tough.
Don't waste money and other people's lives trying to rescue them - it
was their own choice, they should deal with the consequences.
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