• Interesting commentary on CO2 and global warming

    From Crash@nogood@dontbother.invalid to nz.general on Sat Nov 15 08:57:30 2025
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    https://tinyurl.com/2hwy7k8k

    I find this interesting - a well-reasoned argument against CO2 as the
    cause of global warming.
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    Crash McBash
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  • From wn@wn@nosuch.com (Willy Nilly) to nz.general on Fri Nov 14 20:43:06 2025
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    On Sat, 15 Nov 2025, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote: >https://tinyurl.com/2hwy7k8k
    I find this interesting - a well-reasoned argument against CO2 as the
    cause of global warming.

    Well-reasoned arguments on this score have been around since, well,
    forever. In particular, that the Earth was, at times, much warmer
    than today -- without any "runaway" warming ever happening. But they
    get ignored by the media and thus the public get gaslit forevermore.
    This is the hallmark of the toxic Leftist media: the topics excluded
    from coverage -- the things Leftists pretend not to know, is enforced
    upon the public, who consequently genuinely do not know these things.

    If the Overton Window on this is getting cracked, then that is
    significant. The recent agonised articles about a newly-recognised
    upcoming Ice Age are hilarious, and actually more accurate than the
    global warming scaremongering of the past 45 years. All anyone need
    do is look at the global temperature profiles of the past 2.5 million
    years to recognise that the present interglacial warm period must be
    nearing its end -- the recent "Little Ice Age" being a harbinger of
    the arrival of the true Ice Age to come.

    A wider question about the past 2.5 million years has not been asked
    in the literature, that being: why have these ice ages come into
    being when such wide temperature swings are not seen beforehand? A
    precient simultaneity is the arrival of mankind's ability to make
    fire. The earliest use of fire would have caused accidental burnoffs
    of the entire forested surface of the Earth. Would this not increase
    the Earth's reflectivity and thus plunge the Earth into colder
    temperatures? Maybe the repeated ice ages map an anthropogenic social
    cycle where stone-age societies congeal to a point where the world
    physically burns. This reduces mankind to a fraction of before, and
    then the whole cycle repeats -- growth, restoration of social
    cohesion, technical ability, fire, burn -- rinse, repeat. Until, this
    time, we learned to process metals.

    Back in those days the world's knowledge and history was orally
    transmitted. Alas, all lost. The most recent manifestation was the
    Bronze age, of which we have vast artefacts but no writing. Bronze
    does not rust so we have wonderful bronze medallions showing their
    religions which portrayed owls as the godly creatures and snakes as
    the devilish ones, who however conspired in the creation of mankind as
    an assembly of parts. Have you ever wandered in the forest and
    chanced upon an owl -- and you look into his eyes (true forward-facing stereoscopic eyes like humans -- no other bird has those) and he looks
    into yours. A godly experience.

    But getting back to bronze, it is the magical metal which does not
    rust. In our own history, the highly-organised Bronze Age was
    destroyed by iron-wielding attackers (iron swords cut through bronze
    shields), causing a 600-year "dark age" in our archeological record --
    because all the iron artefacts from that era rusted away, so we have
    no relics. Has this cycle happened before? There are mysterious
    bronze relics that are unattributable to any known historical period
    (don't have a link, sorry), which can ask the question: might they
    have come from previous intergalcials, like the Eemian (110,000 years
    ago)?

    Have you ever had a morning champagne? I just did. Perhaps you can
    tell.

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  • From Tony@lizandtony@orcon.net.nz to nz.general on Sat Nov 15 06:21:06 2025
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    Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:
    https://tinyurl.com/2hwy7k8k

    I find this interesting - a well-reasoned argument against CO2 as the
    cause of global warming.


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    Crash McBash
    Yes indeed, and we need more science and much less rhetoric.
    Interesting that Ardern claims to want less politcs and yet is doing exactly that by using this sublect to further her career.
    No worse than most politicians of course.

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