• NZ Post putting itself out of business

    From Your Name@YourName@YourISP.com to nz.general on Tue Oct 7 19:43:04 2025
    From Newsgroup: nz.general


    Continually raising prices, closing branches, and ridiculous delivery
    times (weeks to deliver a letter to the next suburb!). Now the fools in government are allowing them to close even more branches and drop the
    number of delivery days. Basically NZ Post won't exist in a few more
    years - they certinaly haven't had any interest in actually delivering
    post for a long time now. Xo(


    NZ Post allowed to cut number of delivery days, post shops after deed change <https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/nz-post-allowed-to-cut-number-of-delivery-days-post-shops-after-deed-change/GEAAFX6IQFHOZDPQDVXQDD4HLY/>



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  • From Mutley@mutley2000@hotmail.com to nz.general on Wed Oct 8 14:18:06 2025
    From Newsgroup: nz.general

    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:


    Continually raising prices, closing branches, and ridiculous delivery
    times (weeks to deliver a letter to the next suburb!). Now the fools in >government are allowing them to close even more branches and drop the
    number of delivery days. Basically NZ Post won't exist in a few more
    years - they certinaly haven't had any interest in actually delivering
    post for a long time now. Xo(


    NZ Post allowed to cut number of delivery days, post shops after deed change ><https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/nz-post-allowed-to-cut-number-of-delivery-days-post-shops-after-deed-change/GEAAFX6IQFHOZDPQDVXQDD4HLY/>


    Most of the business mail we get these days come via DX Mail. Looks
    like they are taking over from the post office.
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  • From Crash@nogood@dontbother.invalid to nz.general on Wed Oct 8 20:32:02 2025
    From Newsgroup: nz.general

    On Wed, 08 Oct 2025 14:18:06 +1300, Mutley <mutley2000@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:


    Continually raising prices, closing branches, and ridiculous delivery >>times (weeks to deliver a letter to the next suburb!). Now the fools in >>government are allowing them to close even more branches and drop the >>number of delivery days. Basically NZ Post won't exist in a few more
    years - they certinaly haven't had any interest in actually delivering >>post for a long time now. Xo(


    NZ Post allowed to cut number of delivery days, post shops after deed change >><https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/nz-post-allowed-to-cut-number-of-delivery-days-post-shops-after-deed-change/GEAAFX6IQFHOZDPQDVXQDD4HLY/>


    Most of the business mail we get these days come via DX Mail. Looks
    like they are taking over from the post office.

    The reality is that a traditional postal service is no longer a viable
    business option because it requires scale (volumes) that are no longer
    there. For people who have inadequate access to electronic
    communications such as an email address, this is difficult. There are
    options to up skill with various organisations such as Gray Power
    providing access to education opportunities. In my experience though
    those who have to rely on postal services choose to do so by not
    upskilling.

    I help out at a local retirement village with free 'digital support'
    sessions - used by those who have diminished mental capability.
    Assistance is available to them from volunteers like me. The only
    real difficulty is access to online banking, where someone with a
    financial enduring power of attorney is required. Too many older
    folks who cannot use a PC or smart phone app refuse to grant said
    EPOA.
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  • From Your Name@YourName@YourISP.com to nz.general on Thu Oct 9 09:14:29 2025
    From Newsgroup: nz.general

    On 2025-10-08 07:32:02 +0000, Crash said:
    On Wed, 08 Oct 2025 14:18:06 +1300, Mutley <mutley2000@hotmail.com>
    wrote:
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

    Continually raising prices, closing branches, and ridiculous delivery
    times (weeks to deliver a letter to the next suburb!). Now the fools in
    government are allowing them to close even more branches and drop the
    number of delivery days. Basically NZ Post won't exist in a few more
    years - they certinaly haven't had any interest in actually delivering
    post for a long time now. Xo(


    NZ Post allowed to cut number of delivery days, post shops after deed change
    <https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/nz-post-allowed-to-cut-number-of-delivery-days-post-shops-after-deed-change/GEAAFX6IQFHOZDPQDVXQDD4HLY/>


    Most of the business mail we get these days come via DX Mail. Looks
    like they are taking over from the post office.

    The reality is that a traditional postal service is no longer a viable business option because it requires scale (volumes) that are no longer there.

    Part of the reason is because they keep raising the price and lessening
    the service - it's obviously going to cause fewer and fewer people to
    bother using the service. To a large extent they've been digging their
    own grave for years while the fools in management who come up with
    these idiotic ideas sit there not understanding why, as usual.

    Not helped by the fools wasting huge piles of money on a lot of silly
    little electric buggies that weren't necessary and require constant recharging. :-\ They should have stayed with the bicycle posties.



    For people who have inadequate access to electronic communications such
    as an email address, this is difficult. There are options to up skill
    with various organisations such as Gray Power providing access to
    education opportunities. In my experience though those who have to
    rely on postal services choose to do so by not upskilling.

    I help out at a local retirement village with free 'digital support' sessions - used by those who have diminished mental capability.
    Assistance is available to them from volunteers like me. The only real difficulty is access to online banking, where someone with a financial enduring power of attorney is required. Too many older folks who
    cannot use a PC or smart phone app refuse to grant said EPOA.


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  • From Gordon@Gordon@leaf.net.nz to nz.general on Wed Oct 8 23:57:05 2025
    From Newsgroup: nz.general

    On 2025-10-08, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
    On 2025-10-08 07:32:02 +0000, Crash said:
    On Wed, 08 Oct 2025 14:18:06 +1300, Mutley <mutley2000@hotmail.com>
    wrote:
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

    Continually raising prices, closing branches, and ridiculous delivery
    times (weeks to deliver a letter to the next suburb!). Now the fools in >>>> government are allowing them to close even more branches and drop the
    number of delivery days. Basically NZ Post won't exist in a few more
    years - they certinaly haven't had any interest in actually delivering >>>> post for a long time now. Xo(


    NZ Post allowed to cut number of delivery days, post shops after deed change
    <https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/nz-post-allowed-to-cut-number-of-delivery-days-post-shops-after-deed-change/GEAAFX6IQFHOZDPQDVXQDD4HLY/>


    Most of the business mail we get these days come via DX Mail. Looks
    like they are taking over from the post office.

    The reality is that a traditional postal service is no longer a viable
    business option because it requires scale (volumes) that are no longer
    there.

    Part of the reason is because they keep raising the price and lessening
    the service - it's obviously going to cause fewer and fewer people to
    bother using the service. To a large extent they've been digging their
    own grave for years while the fools in management who come up with
    these idiotic ideas sit there not understanding why, as usual.

    If your business is not profitable at the number of letters delivered then
    not raising the cost is not an option. You business will still go broke. In short it is the lack of demand which is causing the high price.



    Not helped by the fools wasting huge piles of money on a lot of silly
    little electric buggies that weren't necessary and require constant recharging. :-\ They should have stayed with the bicycle posties.

    The buggies were introduced as they could carry more mail, including
    parcels. However this fell inbetween two stools as the online shopping
    supplied many parcels and the beggars and thiefs ramped up a colletion of
    their own before the owners go them.




    For people who have inadequate access to electronic communications such
    as an email address, this is difficult. There are options to up skill
    with various organisations such as Gray Power providing access to
    education opportunities. In my experience though those who have to
    rely on postal services choose to do so by not upskilling.

    I help out at a local retirement village with free 'digital support'
    sessions - used by those who have diminished mental capability.
    Assistance is available to them from volunteers like me. The only real
    difficulty is access to online banking, where someone with a financial
    enduring power of attorney is required. Too many older folks who
    cannot use a PC or smart phone app refuse to grant said EPOA.

    Do they have I will?
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  • From Your Name@YourName@YourISP.com to nz.general on Thu Oct 9 15:01:46 2025
    From Newsgroup: nz.general

    On 2025-10-08 23:57:05 +0000, Gordon said:
    On 2025-10-08, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
    On 2025-10-08 07:32:02 +0000, Crash said:
    On Wed, 08 Oct 2025 14:18:06 +1300, Mutley <mutley2000@hotmail.com>
    wrote:
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

    Continually raising prices, closing branches, and ridiculous delivery >>>>> times (weeks to deliver a letter to the next suburb!). Now the fools in >>>>> government are allowing them to close even more branches and drop the >>>>> number of delivery days. Basically NZ Post won't exist in a few more >>>>> years - they certinaly haven't had any interest in actually delivering >>>>> post for a long time now. Xo(


    NZ Post allowed to cut number of delivery days, post shops after deed change
    <https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/nz-post-allowed-to-cut-number-of-delivery-days-post-shops-after-deed-change/GEAAFX6IQFHOZDPQDVXQDD4HLY/>


    Most of the business mail we get these days come via DX Mail. Looks
    like they are taking over from the post office.

    The reality is that a traditional postal service is no longer a viable
    business option because it requires scale (volumes) that are no longer
    there.

    Part of the reason is because they keep raising the price and lessening
    the service - it's obviously going to cause fewer and fewer people to
    bother using the service. To a large extent they've been digging their
    own grave for years while the fools in management who come up with
    these idiotic ideas sit there not understanding why, as usual.

    If your business is not profitable at the number of letters delivered then not raising the cost is not an option. You business will still go broke. In short it is the lack of demand which is causing the high price.

    It depends on lots of factors, but there are plenty of businesses that resurrected themselves from near death by LOWERING the price of their
    product / service to make more poeple interested in buying it.

    Another option is to get rid of the many useless and massively
    over-paid idiots in the management structure.



    Not helped by the fools wasting huge piles of money on a lot of silly
    little electric buggies that weren't necessary and require constant
    recharging. :-\ They should have stayed with the bicycle posties.

    The buggies were introduced as they could carry more mail, including
    parcels. However this fell inbetween two stools as the online shopping supplied many parcels and the beggars and thiefs ramped up a colletion of their own before the owners go them.

    The parcels were already being delivered by the NZ Post / courier vans,
    so there was no need for the buggies to carry parcels at all.

    The real reason was so that NZ Post could ditch a load of posties by
    having those left covering a bigger area. The problem was the idea was
    one of those ridiculous greeny-pushed look-good campaigns by some moron
    in management attempting to look useful, that, as usual, wasn't thought
    out properly and fell well short in terms of actuality and efficiency
    to the claims.




    For people who have inadequate access to electronic communications such
    as an email address, this is difficult. There are options to up skill
    with various organisations such as Gray Power providing access to
    education opportunities. In my experience though those who have to
    rely on postal services choose to do so by not upskilling.

    I help out at a local retirement village with free 'digital support'
    sessions - used by those who have diminished mental capability.
    Assistance is available to them from volunteers like me. The only real
    difficulty is access to online banking, where someone with a financial
    enduring power of attorney is required. Too many older folks who
    cannot use a PC or smart phone app refuse to grant said EPOA.

    Do they have I will?


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  • From Crash@nogood@dontbother.invalid to nz.general on Thu Oct 9 17:38:13 2025
    From Newsgroup: nz.general

    On Thu, 9 Oct 2025 15:01:46 +1300, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
    wrote:

    On 2025-10-08 23:57:05 +0000, Gordon said:
    On 2025-10-08, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
    On 2025-10-08 07:32:02 +0000, Crash said:
    On Wed, 08 Oct 2025 14:18:06 +1300, Mutley <mutley2000@hotmail.com>
    wrote:
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

    Continually raising prices, closing branches, and ridiculous delivery >>>>>> times (weeks to deliver a letter to the next suburb!). Now the fools in >>>>>> government are allowing them to close even more branches and drop the >>>>>> number of delivery days. Basically NZ Post won't exist in a few more >>>>>> years - they certinaly haven't had any interest in actually delivering >>>>>> post for a long time now. Xo(


    NZ Post allowed to cut number of delivery days, post shops after deed change
    <https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/nz-post-allowed-to-cut-number-of-delivery-days-post-shops-after-deed-change/GEAAFX6IQFHOZDPQDVXQDD4HLY/>


    Most of the business mail we get these days come via DX Mail. Looks >>>>> like they are taking over from the post office.

    The reality is that a traditional postal service is no longer a viable >>>> business option because it requires scale (volumes) that are no longer >>>> there.

    Part of the reason is because they keep raising the price and lessening
    the service - it's obviously going to cause fewer and fewer people to
    bother using the service. To a large extent they've been digging their
    own grave for years while the fools in management who come up with
    these idiotic ideas sit there not understanding why, as usual.

    If your business is not profitable at the number of letters delivered then >> not raising the cost is not an option. You business will still go broke. In >> short it is the lack of demand which is causing the high price.

    It depends on lots of factors, but there are plenty of businesses that >resurrected themselves from near death by LOWERING the price of their >product / service to make more poeple interested in buying it.

    I have not posted a letter in decades and I suspect the same can be
    said of huge numbers of us. We email or use internet-based apps to
    make video/voice calls. Widespread and popular use of postal services
    is long gone no matter what the price is.

    Bulk mailing organisations may well get better deals from couriers for high-volume deliveries. My credit card was cancelled recently and it
    took nearly 2 weeks for the replacement to arrive. As postal mail is
    no longer 'cancelled' I have no idea how much of that time was in the
    post.

    Another option is to get rid of the many useless and massively
    over-paid idiots in the management structure.

    If the service is not used, no amount of reductions in management
    ranks will save it. They probably spend more on the front-line
    deliveries and their vehicles than on management.


    Not helped by the fools wasting huge piles of money on a lot of silly
    little electric buggies that weren't necessary and require constant
    recharging. :-\ They should have stayed with the bicycle posties.

    The buggies were introduced as they could carry more mail, including
    parcels. However this fell inbetween two stools as the online shopping
    supplied many parcels and the beggars and thiefs ramped up a colletion of
    their own before the owners go them.

    The parcels were already being delivered by the NZ Post / courier vans,
    so there was no need for the buggies to carry parcels at all.

    The real reason was so that NZ Post could ditch a load of posties by
    having those left covering a bigger area. The problem was the idea was
    one of those ridiculous greeny-pushed look-good campaigns by some moron
    in management attempting to look useful, that, as usual, wasn't thought
    out properly and fell well short in terms of actuality and efficiency
    to the claims.




    For people who have inadequate access to electronic communications such >>>> as an email address, this is difficult. There are options to up skill >>>> with various organisations such as Gray Power providing access to
    education opportunities. In my experience though those who have to
    rely on postal services choose to do so by not upskilling.

    I help out at a local retirement village with free 'digital support'
    sessions - used by those who have diminished mental capability.
    Assistance is available to them from volunteers like me. The only real >>>> difficulty is access to online banking, where someone with a financial >>>> enduring power of attorney is required. Too many older folks who
    cannot use a PC or smart phone app refuse to grant said EPOA.

    Do they have I will?

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  • From Crash@nogood@dontbother.invalid to nz.general on Thu Oct 9 17:39:24 2025
    From Newsgroup: nz.general

    On 8 Oct 2025 23:57:05 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

    On 2025-10-08, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
    On 2025-10-08 07:32:02 +0000, Crash said:
    On Wed, 08 Oct 2025 14:18:06 +1300, Mutley <mutley2000@hotmail.com>
    wrote:
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

    Continually raising prices, closing branches, and ridiculous delivery >>>>> times (weeks to deliver a letter to the next suburb!). Now the fools in >>>>> government are allowing them to close even more branches and drop the >>>>> number of delivery days. Basically NZ Post won't exist in a few more >>>>> years - they certinaly haven't had any interest in actually delivering >>>>> post for a long time now. Xo(


    NZ Post allowed to cut number of delivery days, post shops after deed change
    <https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/nz-post-allowed-to-cut-number-of-delivery-days-post-shops-after-deed-change/GEAAFX6IQFHOZDPQDVXQDD4HLY/>


    Most of the business mail we get these days come via DX Mail. Looks
    like they are taking over from the post office.

    The reality is that a traditional postal service is no longer a viable
    business option because it requires scale (volumes) that are no longer
    there.

    Part of the reason is because they keep raising the price and lessening
    the service - it's obviously going to cause fewer and fewer people to
    bother using the service. To a large extent they've been digging their
    own grave for years while the fools in management who come up with
    these idiotic ideas sit there not understanding why, as usual.

    If your business is not profitable at the number of letters delivered then >not raising the cost is not an option. You business will still go broke. In >short it is the lack of demand which is causing the high price.



    Not helped by the fools wasting huge piles of money on a lot of silly
    little electric buggies that weren't necessary and require constant
    recharging. :-\ They should have stayed with the bicycle posties.

    The buggies were introduced as they could carry more mail, including
    parcels. However this fell inbetween two stools as the online shopping >supplied many parcels and the beggars and thiefs ramped up a colletion of >their own before the owners go them.




    For people who have inadequate access to electronic communications such >>> as an email address, this is difficult. There are options to up skill
    with various organisations such as Gray Power providing access to
    education opportunities. In my experience though those who have to
    rely on postal services choose to do so by not upskilling.

    I help out at a local retirement village with free 'digital support'
    sessions - used by those who have diminished mental capability.
    Assistance is available to them from volunteers like me. The only real >>> difficulty is access to online banking, where someone with a financial
    enduring power of attorney is required. Too many older folks who
    cannot use a PC or smart phone app refuse to grant said EPOA.

    Do they have I will?

    How are wills relevant to old people still alive and refusing to use
    modern banking services?
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