• Snap Election from Hell?

    From wn@wn@nosuch.com (Willy Nilly) to nz.general on Sun Sep 21 06:55:25 2025
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    Rumours are that there is a snap election in the air for the purpose
    of forming a National-Labour Grand Coalition from Hell after the
    election. This is because (so it is said) Luxon feels he has nore in
    common with Chippy than with Seymour or Winston.

    I have no personal knowledge of this, but it is worth passing on as a
    major warning. If there is a snap election, be ready to vote NZFirst
    or ACT if you don't want Labour back in.

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  • From Crash@nogood@dontbother.invalid to nz.general on Sun Sep 21 20:07:09 2025
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    On Sun, 21 Sep 2025 06:55:25 GMT, wn@nosuch.com (Willy Nilly) wrote:

    Rumours are that there is a snap election in the air for the purpose
    of forming a National-Labour Grand Coalition from Hell after the
    election. This is because (so it is said) Luxon feels he has nore in
    common with Chippy than with Seymour or Winston.

    I have no personal knowledge of this, but it is worth passing on as a
    major warning. If there is a snap election, be ready to vote NZFirst
    or ACT if you don't want Labour back in.

    Where did these rumours come from? We have never had such a
    Government. Snap elections usually happen only after the viability of
    the current Government is jeopardised - so who among ACT and NZF might
    cause this to happen?

    I really cannot imagine any credibility to this.
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    Crash McBash
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  • From Mutley@mutley2000@hotmail.com to nz.general on Mon Sep 22 08:55:34 2025
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    wn@nosuch.com (Willy Nilly) wrote:

    Rumours are that there is a snap election in the air for the purpose
    of forming a National-Labour Grand Coalition from Hell after the
    election. This is because (so it is said) Luxon feels he has nore in
    common with Chippy than with Seymour or Winston.

    I have no personal knowledge of this, but it is worth passing on as a
    major warning. If there is a snap election, be ready to vote NZFirst
    or ACT if you don't want Labour back in.

    Voting for NZF worries me as Winston will go with labor if offered
    the DPM roll and any other baubles. It will be ACT for me.
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  • From Gordon@Gordon@leaf.net.nz to nz.general on Mon Sep 22 01:19:52 2025
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    On 2025-09-21, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:
    On Sun, 21 Sep 2025 06:55:25 GMT, wn@nosuch.com (Willy Nilly) wrote:

    Rumours are that there is a snap election in the air for the purpose
    of forming a National-Labour Grand Coalition from Hell after the
    election. This is because (so it is said) Luxon feels he has nore in >>common with Chippy than with Seymour or Winston.

    I have no personal knowledge of this, but it is worth passing on as a
    major warning. If there is a snap election, be ready to vote NZFirst
    or ACT if you don't want Labour back in.

    Where did these rumours come from? We have never had such a
    Government. Snap elections usually happen only after the viability of
    the current Government is jeopardised - so who among ACT and NZF might
    cause this to happen?

    I really cannot imagine any credibility to this.


    We have to remember that the Coalition Government was not going to last a
    year, then there would be an early election by the end of 2025.

    It might be a rumour which is having another go at breaking the coalition up. The Government has been attacked at over its poor efforts to get the economy going within 6 months.

    If the major parties have no minor party support then they are unlikely to
    get in. The old divide and rule.
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  • From Crash@nogood@dontbother.invalid to nz.general on Mon Sep 22 17:09:57 2025
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    On 22 Sep 2025 01:19:52 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

    On 2025-09-21, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:
    On Sun, 21 Sep 2025 06:55:25 GMT, wn@nosuch.com (Willy Nilly) wrote:

    Rumours are that there is a snap election in the air for the purpose
    of forming a National-Labour Grand Coalition from Hell after the >>>election. This is because (so it is said) Luxon feels he has nore in >>>common with Chippy than with Seymour or Winston.

    I have no personal knowledge of this, but it is worth passing on as a >>>major warning. If there is a snap election, be ready to vote NZFirst
    or ACT if you don't want Labour back in.

    Where did these rumours come from? We have never had such a
    Government. Snap elections usually happen only after the viability of
    the current Government is jeopardised - so who among ACT and NZF might
    cause this to happen?

    I really cannot imagine any credibility to this.


    We have to remember that the Coalition Government was not going to last a >year, then there would be an early election by the end of 2025.

    That was based on the volatility expected of Winston while in a
    Government that also included Seymour. Well Winston has behaved and
    although Seymour has got up his nose from time to time Winston has
    kept his cool.

    None of the 3 Government parties will want to fight an election now
    because the result will not benefit them. With Labour/Green/Maori
    being right up there in the polls who would risk turning polling
    conjecture into reality? Snap elections only happen when the current
    major government party is certain that they will get more MPs than at
    present. That's not the case at present.

    It might be a rumour which is having another go at breaking the coalition up. >The Government has been attacked at over its poor efforts to get the economy >going within 6 months.

    If the major parties have no minor party support then they are unlikely to >get in. The old divide and rule.

    I would suggest it is time for both National and Labour to put
    together a Government based on confidence-and-supply agreements rather
    than coalitions. This would mean less certainty in getting
    legislation passed but it also eliminates the impression that the
    minor parties have too much influence on the government with just
    small numbers of MPs. It might take a while to have minority
    Governments but the major party would get its economic agenda through
    with guaranteed support and if they cannot get other legislation
    passed then they can play the thwarted card - that the small parties
    are thwarting the big party from doing what it said it would do.
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    Crash McBash
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