• Re: Where's Rich?

    From Mutley@mutley2000@hotmail.com to nz.general on Thu Sep 25 08:39:47 2025
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    Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:

    Not like him to be absent so long.
    Anyone heard anything?? I don't miss him but I hope nothing bad
    happened to him.
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  • From Gordon@Gordon@leaf.net.nz to nz.general on Wed Sep 24 22:26:17 2025
    From Newsgroup: nz.general

    On 2025-09-24, Mutley <mutley2000@hotmail.com> wrote:
    Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:

    Not like him to be absent so long.
    Anyone heard anything?? I don't miss him but I hope nothing bad
    happened to him.

    My theory is that he found some more fertile ground to cultivate.
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  • From wn@wn@nosuch.com (Willy Nilly) to nz.general on Thu Sep 25 01:09:33 2025
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    On Thu, 25 Sep 2025, Mutley <mutley2000@hotmail.com> wrote:
    Anyone heard anything?? I don't miss him but I hope nothing bad
    happened to him.

    A RichBot upgrade from 25% human 75% AI to 100% AI has gone wrong,
    I'd guess, and no-one can be stuffed to fix it. Rich was only a chair
    to be sat in by the Rich du jour. Now the chair is gone.

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  • From Tony@lizandtony@orcon.net.nz to nz.general on Thu Sep 25 02:54:11 2025
    From Newsgroup: nz.general

    Mutley <mutley2000@hotmail.com> wrote:
    Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:

    Not like him to be absent so long.
    Anyone heard anything?? I don't miss him but I hope nothing bad
    happened to him.
    Perhaps he has been defunded or cancelled, or perhaps he has had his internet privileges revoked.
    Frankly, I am delighted he is no longer here.
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  • From Crash@nogood@dontbother.invalid to nz.general on Thu Sep 25 16:15:18 2025
    From Newsgroup: nz.general

    On Thu, 25 Sep 2025 08:39:47 +1200, Mutley <mutley2000@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:

    Not like him to be absent so long.
    Anyone heard anything?? I don't miss him but I hope nothing bad
    happened to him.

    Consider the likely demographic of Usenet and nz.general posters:
    older, tech-savvy enough to find and participate in Usenet, happy to
    continue what many consider an outdated form of debate, set in our
    ways that we continue to post.

    Given this, posting stops have few causes: we become so incapacitated
    that we can no longer do what it takes to post, such as debilitating
    stroke or death.

    We don't stop posting because we have lost interest or found other
    outlets for our need for debate.
    --
    Crash McBash
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  • From BR@blah@blah.blah to nz.general on Thu Sep 25 16:39:37 2025
    From Newsgroup: nz.general

    On Thu, 25 Sep 2025 08:39:47 +1200, Mutley <mutley2000@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:

    Not like him to be absent so long.
    Anyone heard anything?? I don't miss him but I hope nothing bad
    happened to him.

    Annoying as he was, I defend his right to post anything he wants to on
    here, however distasteful. Usenet may be remembered as the last
    bastion of freedom of expression.

    Social media is owned by big tech corporates who have taken it upon
    themselves to censor anything they disagree with, and it is mostly
    that which goes against left wing narrative.

    The demise of usenet is a great shame.

    Bill.
    --
    This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
    https://www.avg.com

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  • From wn@wn@nosuch.com (Willy Nilly) to nz.general on Tue Sep 30 22:27:09 2025
    From Newsgroup: nz.general

    On Thu, 25 Sep 2025, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:
    ... posting stops have few causes: we become so incapacitated
    that we can no longer do what it takes to post, such as debilitating
    stroke or death. We don't stop posting because we have lost interest or found other
    outlets for our need for debate.

    Thinking back on JohnO who used to post here in abundance. Maybe
    reality caught up to him as he came to realise that my Covid-vaccine
    posts were bang on target and his faith-in-health-authorities take was
    failing totally. Maybe he lost confidence.

    A few excerpts from those days:

    JohnO 18/6/2021 replying to me:
    Just as well I take medical advice from my GP and not from some
    internet random.
    (internet random (me) 1, John O 0)

    JohnO 11/7/2021 before the mandates:
    Read my lips: There will be no coerced vaccination in NZ. Ever. Anyone
    who thinks there will be, is bat. shit. crazy.
    (Ohhh, batshit crazy 1, JohnO 0)

    JohnO 13/7/2021 replying to me on my original thought-out topics:
    I'll ignore your batshit-crazy, informed-by-google advise and stick to
    what I hear from my doctor, and the word's leading experts on
    virology. Thanks all the same.

    Willy wrote on 23/9/2021:
    They are realising now that when they reach their arbitrary 90%
    vaccination goal, that the plan is to then let COVID run through the population. Perhaps they didn't emotionally accept that before,
    because now they are panicking. Now they are looking for ways to
    still "control COVID" *after* they reach the 90% with masks and
    passports, and whatever the hell makes them feel like they are worth a
    damn. All at the expense of the people, of course. Can they just
    stay on script??? Reach your 90% or whatever, then SET
    THE PEOPLE FREE. The unvaccinated don't want your help, they prefer
    COVID to the vaccine, so respect their decision -- their bodies, their
    choice. And the vaccinated can feel safe & warm & fuzzy until the
    next tidal wave of reality comes along which will show that the
    authorities were full of s#!& all along, as of course they were.
    Somebody, tell the control freaks that they CANNOT "control COVID",
    and to LET GO after their vaccination goal is reached. Give it up,
    give it away, set the people free. Stop tormenting New Zealand !!

    JohnO replied: They have wheeled out Personal Shroud-waver to the
    PM, Shaun Hendy with a prediction of 7000 deaths per year at 80%
    vaccination. This is the guy who modelled 80,000 deaths in NZ at the
    start of the whole thing. Like UK's disgraced Neil Fergusson, he has
    been spectacularly wrong since... forever. All these guys do is throw
    out theoretical worst case scenarios. They are a tool of the
    government used to scare people into submission.
    (JohnO getting a clue, here)

    Willy wrote on 2/12/2012: A healthy 26yo Dunedin plumber, felled by
    the vaccine: ... Reported by an Australian newspaper, embargoed by our
    loyal NZ media. Excerpts follow:
    "A fit and active 26-year-old man has mysterious died with fears he
    may have suffered fatal side effects 12 days after receiving Pfizer's
    Covid vaccine. Rory James Nairn, 26, had heart palpitations for
    several days before collapsing to the floor of his Dunedin home in New
    Zealand on November 17."

    JohnO replied: Willy has a habit of misrepresentation. Thus poor guy
    did die, and had been vaccinated, but there has been nothing to show vaccination killed him or contributed to his death. Coroner has yet to
    even look at it.
    (another swing-and-a-miss by JohnO)

    Cassandra (I) wrote on 18/1/2022: https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/459732/covid-19-vaccination-for-children-you-could-think-of-it-as-an-insurance-policy
    Children's COVID vaccination as an "insurance policy"?!? This will
    end badly. COVID harms no child. The vaccine will harm them. This
    will end badly.

    JohnO replied: Fatalities *by* COVID are rare - especially so for
    Omicron and even more so for fully vaxxed. In fact you would be far
    more likely to die in a car accident or by drowning. Don't see Cindy
    banning cars or swimming (yet). The cost of our over the top
    defensive posture to COVID is far higher than the cost of it being
    endemic. Open the borders before more harm is done to NZ.
    (JohnO is really catching on now)

    JohnO disappeared shortly thereafter. He had budged from his original inflexible stand, but it's hard to admit to oneself that you've let
    the charlatans inject your body with their poison serum. Still, one
    hopes he's OK today. I'm less interested in RichBot, since he
    probably wasn't even a person, just a role.

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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to nz.general on Tue Sep 30 22:35:06 2025
    From Newsgroup: nz.general

    On Tue, 30 Sep 2025 22:27:09 GMT, Willy Nilly wrote:

    JohnO 11/7/2021 before the mandates:
    Read my lips: There will be no coerced vaccination in NZ. Ever. Anyone
    who thinks there will be, is bat. shit. crazy.
    (Ohhh, batshit crazy 1, JohnO 0)

    So where exactly was there rCLcoerced vaccinationrCY in NZ? There are professions where a great degree of close human contact requires basic
    hygiene practices, but thatrCOs always been true.

    Because, you know. infectious diseases donrCOt respect political ideologies, no matter how much your favourite right-wing propaganda channel may insist otherwise.
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  • From Gordon@Gordon@leaf.net.nz to nz.general on Thu Oct 2 22:33:21 2025
    From Newsgroup: nz.general

    On 2025-09-30, Willy Nilly <wn@nosuch.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 25 Sep 2025, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:
    ... posting stops have few causes: we become so incapacitated
    that we can no longer do what it takes to post, such as debilitating
    stroke or death. We don't stop posting because we have lost interest or found other
    outlets for our need for debate.

    I would say that lost of interest, ie satisfaction or value for time and
    effort is also a cause. Certainly less often than some other causes.

    Thinking back on JohnO who used to post here in abundance. Maybe
    reality caught up to him as he came to realise that my Covid-vaccine
    posts were bang on target and his faith-in-health-authorities take was failing totally. Maybe he lost confidence.

    It has been interesting in obsevring the people and the organisations slowly back away from the Arden narrative as the truth (facts) have come out. There are some who admit they have changed their mind others not so much.

    A few excerpts from those days:

    JohnO 18/6/2021 replying to me:
    Just as well I take medical advice from my GP and not from some
    internet random.
    (internet random (me) 1, John O 0)

    JohnO 11/7/2021 before the mandates:
    Read my lips: There will be no coerced vaccination in NZ. Ever. Anyone
    who thinks there will be, is bat. shit. crazy.
    (Ohhh, batshit crazy 1, JohnO 0)

    JohnO 13/7/2021 replying to me on my original thought-out topics:
    I'll ignore your batshit-crazy, informed-by-google advise and stick to
    what I hear from my doctor, and the word's leading experts on
    virology. Thanks all the same.

    Willy wrote on 23/9/2021:
    They are realising now that when they reach their arbitrary 90%
    vaccination goal, that the plan is to then let COVID run through the population. Perhaps they didn't emotionally accept that before,
    because now they are panicking. Now they are looking for ways to
    still "control COVID" *after* they reach the 90% with masks and
    passports, and whatever the hell makes them feel like they are worth a
    damn. All at the expense of the people, of course. Can they just
    stay on script??? Reach your 90% or whatever, then SET
    THE PEOPLE FREE. The unvaccinated don't want your help, they prefer
    COVID to the vaccine, so respect their decision -- their bodies, their choice. And the vaccinated can feel safe & warm & fuzzy until the
    next tidal wave of reality comes along which will show that the
    authorities were full of s#!& all along, as of course they were.
    Somebody, tell the control freaks that they CANNOT "control COVID",
    and to LET GO after their vaccination goal is reached. Give it up,
    give it away, set the people free. Stop tormenting New Zealand !!

    JohnO replied: They have wheeled out Personal Shroud-waver to the
    PM, Shaun Hendy with a prediction of 7000 deaths per year at 80%
    vaccination. This is the guy who modelled 80,000 deaths in NZ at the
    start of the whole thing. Like UK's disgraced Neil Fergusson, he has
    been spectacularly wrong since... forever. All these guys do is throw
    out theoretical worst case scenarios. They are a tool of the
    government used to scare people into submission.
    (JohnO getting a clue, here)

    Willy wrote on 2/12/2012: A healthy 26yo Dunedin plumber, felled by
    the vaccine: ... Reported by an Australian newspaper, embargoed by our
    loyal NZ media. Excerpts follow:
    "A fit and active 26-year-old man has mysterious died with fears he
    may have suffered fatal side effects 12 days after receiving Pfizer's
    Covid vaccine. Rory James Nairn, 26, had heart palpitations for
    several days before collapsing to the floor of his Dunedin home in New Zealand on November 17."

    JohnO replied: Willy has a habit of misrepresentation. Thus poor guy
    did die, and had been vaccinated, but there has been nothing to show vaccination killed him or contributed to his death. Coroner has yet to
    even look at it.
    (another swing-and-a-miss by JohnO)

    Cassandra (I) wrote on 18/1/2022: https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/459732/covid-19-vaccination-for-children-you-could-think-of-it-as-an-insurance-policy
    Children's COVID vaccination as an "insurance policy"?!? This will
    end badly. COVID harms no child. The vaccine will harm them. This
    will end badly.

    JohnO replied: Fatalities *by* COVID are rare - especially so for
    Omicron and even more so for fully vaxxed. In fact you would be far
    more likely to die in a car accident or by drowning. Don't see Cindy
    banning cars or swimming (yet). The cost of our over the top
    defensive posture to COVID is far higher than the cost of it being
    endemic. Open the borders before more harm is done to NZ.
    (JohnO is really catching on now)

    JohnO disappeared shortly thereafter. He had budged from his original inflexible stand, but it's hard to admit to oneself that you've let
    the charlatans inject your body with their poison serum. Still, one
    hopes he's OK today. I'm less interested in RichBot, since he
    probably wasn't even a person, just a role.

    Also there was no sign of a change in direction.

    Very few occasions where he was willing to change consider that the counter point had some merit, and most of the time a word salad fitting for Trump.

    Thanks for posting that Willy, it was interesting and a good reflection of
    the past.
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  • From Tony@lizandtony@orcon.net.nz to nz.general on Fri Oct 3 19:05:02 2025
    From Newsgroup: nz.general

    Lawrence D Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
    On Tue, 30 Sep 2025 22:27:09 GMT, Willy Nilly wrote:

    JohnO 11/7/2021 before the mandates:
    Read my lips: There will be no coerced vaccination in NZ. Ever. Anyone
    who thinks there will be, is bat. shit. crazy.
    (Ohhh, batshit crazy 1, JohnO 0)

    So where exactly was there rCLcoerced vaccinationrCY in NZ? There are >professions where a great degree of close human contact requires basic >hygiene practices, but thatrCOs always been true.
    There were many who were told they would lose their jobs if they were not vaccinated. The military, police, hospitality workers, local council workers to
    mention just a few.
    Coercion clearly. And unjustified on any sort of medical basis.

    Because, you know. infectious diseases donrCOt respect political ideologies, >no matter how much your favourite right-wing propaganda channel may insist >otherwise.
    Irrelevant, just your political bias showing.
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  • From Mutley@mutley2000@hotmail.com to nz.general on Mon Oct 6 08:17:28 2025
    From Newsgroup: nz.general

    Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Lawrence D Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
    On Tue, 30 Sep 2025 22:27:09 GMT, Willy Nilly wrote:

    JohnO 11/7/2021 before the mandates:
    Read my lips: There will be no coerced vaccination in NZ. Ever. Anyone
    who thinks there will be, is bat. shit. crazy.
    (Ohhh, batshit crazy 1, JohnO 0)

    So where exactly was there rCLcoerced vaccinationrC? in NZ? There are >>professions where a great degree of close human contact requires basic >>hygiene practices, but thatrCOs always been true.
    There were many who were told they would lose their jobs if they were not >vaccinated. The military, police, hospitality workers, local council workers to
    mention just a few.
    Coercion clearly. And unjustified on any sort of medical basis.

    Because, you know. infectious diseases donrCOt respect political ideologies, >>no matter how much your favourite right-wing propaganda channel may insist >>otherwise.
    Irrelevant, just your political bias showing.
    Don't know why Tony you engage with this Hamas supporter. I blocked
    him long ago.
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  • From Tony@lizandtony@orcon.net.nz to nz.general on Sun Oct 5 22:12:45 2025
    From Newsgroup: nz.general

    Mutley <mutley2000@hotmail.com> wrote:
    Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Lawrence D Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
    On Tue, 30 Sep 2025 22:27:09 GMT, Willy Nilly wrote:

    JohnO 11/7/2021 before the mandates:
    Read my lips: There will be no coerced vaccination in NZ. Ever. Anyone >>>> who thinks there will be, is bat. shit. crazy.
    (Ohhh, batshit crazy 1, JohnO 0)

    So where exactly was there rCLcoerced vaccinationrC? in NZ? There are >>>professions where a great degree of close human contact requires basic >>>hygiene practices, but thatrCOs always been true.
    There were many who were told they would lose their jobs if they were not >>vaccinated. The military, police, hospitality workers, local council workers >>to
    mention just a few.
    Coercion clearly. And unjustified on any sort of medical basis.

    Because, you know. infectious diseases donrCOt respect political ideologies,
    no matter how much your favourite right-wing propaganda channel may insist >>>otherwise.
    Irrelevant, just your political bias showing.
    Don't know why Tony you engage with this Hamas supporter. I blocked
    him long ago.
    I find his total lack of objectivity fascinating, How anybody can be so blind to reality and so single-midedly obsessed with hatred is an object lesson in the human psyche. Worth studying.
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