• RE: disallowing 'make installworld' with pkgbase [side note about release notes draft]

    From Mark Millard@marklmi@yahoo.com to muc.lists.freebsd.stable on Sun Oct 5 22:30:23 2025
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    Lexi Winter <ivy_at_freebsd.org> wrote on
    Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2025 02:03:17 UTC :

    in 15.0 we will ship pkgbase as an alternative to the dist sets for base system installation. pkgbase is entirely optional and for at least 15.0,
    we will continue to support dist set installation with freebsd-update.

    . . .

    This seems to also be an announcement of a change to what the 15.0
    draft release notes ( https://www.freebsd.org/releases/15.0R/relnotes/ )
    have said:

    QUOTE
    FreeBSD Update is probably not going to exist in 15.0-RELEASE! The text
    below is boilerplate from previous releases and should be replaced with instructions for using pkgbase once those are finalized.
    END QUOTE

    It would be good for the draft to have its "probably" status for this
    switched at some point.

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    Mark Millard
    marklmi at yahoo.com



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  • From Colin Percival@cperciva@tarsnap.com to muc.lists.freebsd.stable on Mon Oct 6 05:39:40 2025
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    On 10/5/25 22:30, Mark Millard wrote:
    Lexi Winter <ivy_at_freebsd.org> wrote on
    Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2025 02:03:17 UTC :

    in 15.0 we will ship pkgbase as an alternative to the dist sets for base
    system installation. pkgbase is entirely optional and for at least 15.0,
    we will continue to support dist set installation with freebsd-update.

    . . .

    This seems to also be an announcement of a change to what the 15.0
    draft release notes ( https://www.freebsd.org/releases/15.0R/relnotes/ )
    have said:

    QUOTE
    FreeBSD Update is probably not going to exist in 15.0-RELEASE! The text
    below is boilerplate from previous releases and should be replaced with instructions for using pkgbase once those are finalized.
    END QUOTE

    It would be good for the draft to have its "probably" status for this switched at some point.

    Yeah, I'll definitely fix that before the release. Plans have changed and
    in particular we've determined that -- since we can ship DVD images with identical binaries via dist sets and packages -- supporting "legacy" FreeBSD Update in 15.x should be reasonably straightforward.

    (This was hinted at in my earlier announcement about the timeline for deprecation of dist sets.)
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    FreeBSD Release Engineering Lead & EC2 platform maintainer
    Founder, Tarsnap | www.tarsnap.com | Online backups for the truly paranoid



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