My iPhone 12 mini is slow and laggy with iOS v26.2, and gets hot and
drains battery fast when using it like in Duolingo app.
My iPhone 12 mini is slow and laggy with iOS v26.2, and gets hot and
drains battery fast when using it like in Duolingo app. I wonder if my
12 mini is too old these days and I should get a newer iPhone model, but they're all big after 13 mini (not worth getting since it will have the
same problem next year or so). DeviceMonitor^2 app shows CPU and RAM
usages almost at max. I really love the small physical sizes and lighter weight in minis. :( I wished Apple would make more newer minis, but they won't since they didn't make a lot of money from them.
On 2026-01-21, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
My iPhone 12 mini is slow and laggy with iOS v26.2, and gets hot and drains battery fast when using it like in Duolingo app.
How long has it been since you installed 26.2?
Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
My iPhone 12 mini is slow and laggy with iOS v26.2, and gets hot and drains battery fast when using it like in Duolingo app. I wonder if my
12 mini is too old these days and I should get a newer iPhone model, but they're all big after 13 mini (not worth getting since it will have the same problem next year or so). DeviceMonitor^2 app shows CPU and RAM usages almost at max. I really love the small physical sizes and lighter weight in minis. :( I wished Apple would make more newer minis, but they won't since they didn't make a lot of money from them.
Since small screen is important for you, I would recommend an Phone 16 (not pro version). This model is less than 1 inch larger than your 12 mini,
but has 8GB RAM and much faster CPU. I have a 16 Pro Max and it runs
26.2 just fine. I like the large screen.
But your post confirms my decision to not install 26 on my iPad Mini 5.
It is already slow enough on 18.7.3, and it has an older CPU than your 12 mini and only 3GB RAM. The iPhone 12 mini has 4GB RAM.
Nick Charles <none@none.none> wrote:
Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
My iPhone 12 mini is slow and laggy with iOS v26.2, and gets hot and
drains battery fast when using it like in Duolingo app. I wonder if my
12 mini is too old these days and I should get a newer iPhone model, but >>> they're all big after 13 mini (not worth getting since it will have the >>> same problem next year or so). DeviceMonitor^2 app shows CPU and RAM
usages almost at max. I really love the small physical sizes and lighter >>> weight in minis. :( I wished Apple would make more newer minis, but they >>> won't since they didn't make a lot of money from them.
Since small screen is important for you, I would recommend an Phone 16 (not >> pro version). This model is less than 1 inch larger than your 12 mini,
but has 8GB RAM and much faster CPU. I have a 16 Pro Max and it runs
26.2 just fine. I like the large screen.
Well, small physical size and light weight. :) I wonder if I should wait
for 17e I keep reading about.
But your post confirms my decision to not install 26 on my iPad Mini 5.
It is already slow enough on 18.7.3, and it has an older CPU than your 12
mini and only 3GB RAM. The iPhone 12 mini has 4GB RAM.
I only upgraded iOS to v26.2 because of security fixes I can't get in
v18 (missed v18.7.3 with its beta profile trick, but it is probably unsupported anyways).
Nick Charles <none@none.none> wrote:
Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
My iPhone 12 mini is slow and laggy with iOS v26.2, and gets hot and
drains battery fast when using it like in Duolingo app. I wonder if my
12 mini is too old these days and I should get a newer iPhone model, but >>> they're all big after 13 mini (not worth getting since it will have the >>> same problem next year or so). DeviceMonitor^2 app shows CPU and RAM
usages almost at max. I really love the small physical sizes and lighter >>> weight in minis. :( I wished Apple would make more newer minis, but they >>> won't since they didn't make a lot of money from them.
Since small screen is important for you, I would recommend an Phone 16 (not >> pro version). This model is less than 1 inch larger than your 12 mini,
but has 8GB RAM and much faster CPU. I have a 16 Pro Max and it runs
26.2 just fine. I like the large screen.
Well, small physical size and light weight. :) I wonder if I should wait
for 17e I keep reading about.
Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
My iPhone 12 mini is slow and laggy with iOS v26.2, and gets hot and
drains battery fast when using it like in Duolingo app. I wonder if my
12 mini is too old these days and I should get a newer iPhone model, but
they're all big after 13 mini (not worth getting since it will have the
same problem next year or so). DeviceMonitor^2 app shows CPU and RAM
usages almost at max. I really love the small physical sizes and lighter
weight in minis. :( I wished Apple would make more newer minis, but they
won't since they didn't make a lot of money from them.
Since small screen is important for you, I would recommend an Phone 16 (not pro version). This model is less than 1 inch larger than your 12 mini,
but has 8GB RAM and much faster CPU. I have a 16 Pro Max and it runs
26.2 just fine. I like the large screen.
But your post confirms my decision to not install 26 on my iPad Mini 5.
It is already slow enough on 18.7.3, and it has an older CPU than your 12 mini and only 3GB RAM. The iPhone 12 mini has 4GB RAM.
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
On 2026-01-21, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
My iPhone 12 mini is slow and laggy with iOS v26.2, and gets hot and
drains battery fast when using it like in Duolingo app.
How long has it been since you installed 26.2?
During Christmas week.
On 2026-01-22, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
On 2026-01-21, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
My iPhone 12 mini is slow and laggy with iOS v26.2, and gets hot and
drains battery fast when using it like in Duolingo app.
How long has it been since you installed 26.2?
During Christmas week.
How old is the battery, and is it genuine or third-party?
What is the battery health?
Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
Nick Charles <none@none.none> wrote:
Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
My iPhone 12 mini is slow and laggy with iOS v26.2, and gets hot and
drains battery fast when using it like in Duolingo app. I wonder if my >>> 12 mini is too old these days and I should get a newer iPhone model, but >>> they're all big after 13 mini (not worth getting since it will have the >>> same problem next year or so). DeviceMonitor^2 app shows CPU and RAM
usages almost at max. I really love the small physical sizes and lighter >>> weight in minis. :( I wished Apple would make more newer minis, but they >>> won't since they didn't make a lot of money from them.
Since small screen is important for you, I would recommend an Phone 16 (not
pro version). This model is less than 1 inch larger than your 12 mini, >> but has 8GB RAM and much faster CPU. I have a 16 Pro Max and it runs
26.2 just fine. I like the large screen.
Well, small physical size and light weight. :) I wonder if I should wait for 17e I keep reading about.
I won't be any smaller than the 16e. If you stick with iphone you're going
to get used to a bigger phone. Unless you get the iPhone Air, but that's a lot of money for simply less battery.
Nick Charles <none@none.none> wrote:
Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
My iPhone 12 mini is slow and laggy with iOS v26.2, and gets hot and
drains battery fast when using it like in Duolingo app. I wonder if my
12 mini is too old these days and I should get a newer iPhone model, but >> they're all big after 13 mini (not worth getting since it will have the >> same problem next year or so). DeviceMonitor^2 app shows CPU and RAM
usages almost at max. I really love the small physical sizes and lighter >> weight in minis. :( I wished Apple would make more newer minis, but they >> won't since they didn't make a lot of money from them.
Since small screen is important for you, I would recommend an Phone 16 (not pro version). This model is less than 1 inch larger than your 12 mini, but has 8GB RAM and much faster CPU. I have a 16 Pro Max and it runs 26.2 just fine. I like the large screen.
But your post confirms my decision to not install 26 on my iPad Mini 5. It is already slow enough on 18.7.3, and it has an older CPU than your 12 mini and only 3GB RAM. The iPhone 12 mini has 4GB RAM.
Unfortunately, I have to agree that you made the right decision there. My
13 has become slower and glitchier since installing 26. I thought it would
be temporary as things settle down, but no, it is longstanding.
On older phones it's just a resource hog for no good reason. I hope Apple revert some of the more resource requiring aspects in iOS 27.
Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
Nick Charles <none@none.none> wrote:
Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
My iPhone 12 mini is slow and laggy with iOS v26.2, and gets hot and
drains battery fast when using it like in Duolingo app. I wonder if my >>>> 12 mini is too old these days and I should get a newer iPhone model, but >>>> they're all big after 13 mini (not worth getting since it will have the >>>> same problem next year or so). DeviceMonitor^2 app shows CPU and RAM
usages almost at max. I really love the small physical sizes and lighter >>>> weight in minis. :( I wished Apple would make more newer minis, but they >>>> won't since they didn't make a lot of money from them.
Since small screen is important for you, I would recommend an Phone 16 (not >>> pro version). This model is less than 1 inch larger than your 12 mini, >>> but has 8GB RAM and much faster CPU. I have a 16 Pro Max and it runs
26.2 just fine. I like the large screen.
But your post confirms my decision to not install 26 on my iPad Mini 5. >>> It is already slow enough on 18.7.3, and it has an older CPU than your 12 >>> mini and only 3GB RAM. The iPhone 12 mini has 4GB RAM.
Unfortunately, I have to agree that you made the right decision there. My
13 has become slower and glitchier since installing 26. I thought it would >> be temporary as things settle down, but no, it is longstanding.
Wow, even 13 too? :(
On older phones it's just a resource hog for no good reason. I hope Apple
revert some of the more resource requiring aspects in iOS 27.
I doubt it. Apple just wants us to buy newer iPhones. :P I wished Apple
kept releasing newer iOS v18 like v18.7.4 and on for those who don't
want v26 in iPhones that can run v26. :(
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
On 2026-01-22, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
On 2026-01-21, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
My iPhone 12 mini is slow and laggy with iOS v26.2, and gets hot
and drains battery fast when using it like in Duolingo app.
How long has it been since you installed 26.2?
During Christmas week.
How old is the battery, and is it genuine or third-party?
Still using the original battery that with iPhone from Verzion
Wireless.
What is the battery health?
76%.
Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
Nick Charles <none@none.none> wrote:
Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
My iPhone 12 mini is slow and laggy with iOS v26.2, and gets hot
and drains battery fast when using it like in Duolingo app. I
wonder if my 12 mini is too old these days and I should get a
newer iPhone model, but they're all big after 13 mini (not worth
getting since it will have the same problem next year or so).
DeviceMonitor^2 app shows CPU and RAM usages almost at max. I
really love the small physical sizes and lighter weight in minis.
:( I wished Apple would make more newer minis, but they won't
since they didn't make a lot of money from them.
Since small screen is important for you, I would recommend an Phone
16 (not pro version). This model is less than 1 inch larger than
your 12 mini, but has 8GB RAM and much faster CPU. I have a 16
Pro Max and it runs 26.2 just fine. I like the large screen.
But your post confirms my decision to not install 26 on my iPad
Mini 5. It is already slow enough on 18.7.3, and it has an older
CPU than your 12 mini and only 3GB RAM. The iPhone 12 mini has 4GB
RAM.
Unfortunately, I have to agree that you made the right decision
there. My 13 has become slower and glitchier since installing 26. I
thought it would be temporary as things settle down, but no, it is
longstanding.
Wow, even 13 too? :(
On older phones it's just a resource hog for no good reason. I hope
Apple revert some of the more resource requiring aspects in iOS 27.
I doubt it. Apple just wants us to buy newer iPhones. :P
Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
Nick Charles <none@none.none> wrote:
Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
My iPhone 12 mini is slow and laggy with iOS v26.2, and gets hot and >>>> drains battery fast when using it like in Duolingo app. I wonder if my >>>> 12 mini is too old these days and I should get a newer iPhone model, but
they're all big after 13 mini (not worth getting since it will have the >>>> same problem next year or so). DeviceMonitor^2 app shows CPU and RAM >>>> usages almost at max. I really love the small physical sizes and lighter
weight in minis. :( I wished Apple would make more newer minis, but they
won't since they didn't make a lot of money from them.
Since small screen is important for you, I would recommend an Phone 16 (not
pro version). This model is less than 1 inch larger than your 12 mini, >>> but has 8GB RAM and much faster CPU. I have a 16 Pro Max and it runs >>> 26.2 just fine. I like the large screen.
But your post confirms my decision to not install 26 on my iPad Mini 5. >>> It is already slow enough on 18.7.3, and it has an older CPU than your 12 >>> mini and only 3GB RAM. The iPhone 12 mini has 4GB RAM.
Unfortunately, I have to agree that you made the right decision there. My >> 13 has become slower and glitchier since installing 26. I thought it would >> be temporary as things settle down, but no, it is longstanding.
Wow, even 13 too? :(
On older phones it's just a resource hog for no good reason. I hope Apple >> revert some of the more resource requiring aspects in iOS 27.
I doubt it. Apple just wants us to buy newer iPhones. :P I wished Apple kept releasing newer iOS v18 like v18.7.4 and on for those who don't
want v26 in iPhones that can run v26. :(
There will certainly be more updates to iOS 18. Apple has a pretty good history of long term support. The iPad Air 2 got an update in September 2025 (15.8.5) and the Air 2 is an antique from 2014.
On older phones it's just a resource hog for no good reason. I hope
Apple revert some of the more resource requiring aspects in iOS 27.
I doubt it. Apple just wants us to buy newer iPhones. :P
Nah, your battery is significantly degraded and in need of replacement.
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
On older phones it's just a resource hog for no good reason. I hope
Apple revert some of the more resource requiring aspects in iOS 27.
I doubt it. Apple just wants us to buy newer iPhones. :P
Nah, your battery is significantly degraded and in need of replacement.
The question is spending $89 for its battery will make my iPhone fast
and smooth again? Even when my old iPhone is cool, recharged at 100%,
etc. it's slow with v26.2 with visual effects disabled. Am I going to
get faster speeds with a brand new genuine battery from Apple's retail store? I don't want to waste $100 on the old iPhone if a new battery
doesn't fix it.
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
On older phones it's just a resource hog for no good reason. I hope
Apple revert some of the more resource requiring aspects in iOS 27.
I doubt it. Apple just wants us to buy newer iPhones. :P
Nah, your battery is significantly degraded and in need of replacement.
The question is spending $89 for its battery will make my iPhone fast
and smooth again? Even when my old iPhone is cool, recharged at 100%,
etc. it's slow with v26.2 with visual effects disabled. Am I going to
get faster speeds with a brand new genuine battery from Apple's retail store? I don't want to waste $100 on the old iPhone if a new battery
doesn't fix it.
On 25.01.26 01:41, Ant wrote:
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
On older phones it's just a resource hog for no good reason. I hope
Apple revert some of the more resource requiring aspects in iOS 27.
I doubt it. Apple just wants us to buy newer iPhones. :P
Nah, your battery is significantly degraded and in need of replacement.
The question is spending $89 for its battery will make my iPhone fast
and smooth again? Even when my old iPhone is cool, recharged at 100%,
etc. it's slow with v26.2 with visual effects disabled. Am I going to
get faster speeds with a brand new genuine battery from Apple's retail
store? I don't want to waste $100 on the old iPhone if a new battery
doesn't fix it.
Your iPhone 12 is *five* device generations behind the current iPhone
17s. It is highly probable that it will not get iOS 27 anymore. Think
about it.
J||rg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
On 25.01.26 01:41, Ant wrote:
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
The question is spending $89 for its battery will make my iPhone fastOn older phones it's just a resource hog for no good reason. I hope >>>>>> Apple revert some of the more resource requiring aspects in iOS 27. >>>>>I doubt it. Apple just wants us to buy newer iPhones. :P
Nah, your battery is significantly degraded and in need of replacement. >>>
and smooth again? Even when my old iPhone is cool, recharged at 100%,
etc. it's slow with v26.2 with visual effects disabled. Am I going to
get faster speeds with a brand new genuine battery from Apple's retail
store? I don't want to waste $100 on the old iPhone if a new battery
doesn't fix it.
Your iPhone 12 is *five* device generations behind the current iPhone
17s. It is highly probable that it will not get iOS 27 anymore. Think
about it.
Apple have built their reputation on creating great products backed up with great support. It's the support which people can justify in paying more for that over the competition. 6-7 years of full support on iphone is typical.
I would absolutely expect a 12 to get iOS 27.
If Apple start degrading that level of support, they degrade the customer experience and that will hit their bottom line.
Am 25.01.26 um 11:10 schrieb Chris:
J||rg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
On 25.01.26 01:41, Ant wrote:
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
The question is spending $89 for its battery will make my iPhone fast >>>> and smooth again? Even when my old iPhone is cool, recharged at 100%, >>>> etc. it's slow with v26.2 with visual effects disabled. Am I going to >>>> get faster speeds with a brand new genuine battery from Apple's retail >>>> store? I don't want to waste $100 on the old iPhone if a new batteryOn older phones it's just a resource hog for no good reason. I hope >>>>>>> Apple revert some of the more resource requiring aspects in iOS 27. >>>>>>I doubt it. Apple just wants us to buy newer iPhones. :P
Nah, your battery is significantly degraded and in need of replacement. >>>>
doesn't fix it.
Your iPhone 12 is *five* device generations behind the current iPhone
17s. It is highly probable that it will not get iOS 27 anymore. Think
about it.
Apple have built their reputation on creating great products backed up with >> great support. It's the support which people can justify in paying more for >> that over the competition. 6-7 years of full support on iphone is typical. >> I would absolutely expect a 12 to get iOS 27.
My goodness! This is not an Apple marketing training session!
A short cross check revealed that iPhone 12 will probably get iOS 27.
After that it will be game over. A digital device with no support from
the manufacturer has reached end of life. From now this will be another
20 months.
If Apple start degrading that level of support, they degrade the customer
experience and that will hit their bottom line.
Your wisdom is gigantic.
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