My question is WHY
Tyrone wrote:
My question is WHY
If we don't ask probing questions of why Apple does what it does,
then we will never be able to discuss Apple products intelligently.
We all know the Sun rises in the West. My question is WHY does it rise in the
West, not HOW.
Here are my links that prove The Sun rises in the West:
<https://www.thesun.co.uk>
<https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/37890247/brooklyn-beckham-nicola-peltz-birthday/>
<https://www.thesun.co.uk/health/37892058/nhs-four-hospital-trusts-surge-no-beds/>
See? All links to The Sun! I have proved my claim!
On 13.01.26 01:31, Tyrone wrote:
We all know the Sun rises in the West. My question is WHY does it rise in the
West, not HOW.
Here are my links that prove The Sun rises in the West:
<https://www.thesun.co.uk>
<https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/37890247/brooklyn-beckham-nicola-peltz-birthday/>
<https://www.thesun.co.uk/health/37892058/nhs-four-hospital-trusts-surge-no-beds/>
See? All links to The Sun! I have proved my claim!
Is it your ambition to beat Arlen at any price, Troll?
On 2026-01-12 22:18, J||rg Lorenz wrote:
On 13.01.26 01:31, Tyrone wrote:
We all know the Sun rises in the West. My question is WHY does it rise in the
West, not HOW.
Here are my links that prove The Sun rises in the West:
<https://www.thesun.co.uk>
<https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/37890247/brooklyn-beckham-nicola-peltz-birthday/>
<https://www.thesun.co.uk/health/37892058/nhs-four-hospital-trusts-surge-no-beds/>
See? All links to The Sun! I have proved my claim!
Is it your ambition to beat Arlen at any price, Troll?
He's doing what you apparently cannot:
Taking amusement out of something that he cannot change.
:-)
Tyrone wrote:
My question is WHY
If we don't ask probing questions of why Apple does what it does,
then we will never be able to discuss Apple products intelligently.
On 13.01.26 07:23, Alan wrote:
On 2026-01-12 22:18, J||rg Lorenz wrote:
On 13.01.26 01:31, Tyrone wrote:
We all know the Sun rises in the West. My question is WHY does it rise in the
West, not HOW.
Here are my links that prove The Sun rises in the West:
<https://www.thesun.co.uk>
<https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/37890247/brooklyn-beckham-nicola-peltz-birthday/>
<https://www.thesun.co.uk/health/37892058/nhs-four-hospital-trusts-surge-no-beds/>
See? All links to The Sun! I have proved my claim!
Is it your ambition to beat Arlen at any price, Troll?
He's doing what you apparently cannot:
Taking amusement out of something that he cannot change.
:-)
This is misc.phone.mobile.iphone not an amusement park.
Such OT-threads are destroying what is left of the Usenet.
More and more I get the impression that englishspeaking news groups are
a kind of a virtual nursing home for demented people.
Just taking some amusement out of this Troll-thread.Good for you!
On 13.01.26 07:23, Alan wrote:
On 2026-01-12 22:18, J||rg Lorenz wrote:
On 13.01.26 01:31, Tyrone wrote:
We all know the Sun rises in the West. My question is WHY does it rise in the
West, not HOW.
Here are my links that prove The Sun rises in the West:
<https://www.thesun.co.uk>
<https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/37890247/brooklyn-beckham-nicola-peltz-birthday/>
<https://www.thesun.co.uk/health/37892058/nhs-four-hospital-trusts-surge-no-beds/>
See? All links to The Sun! I have proved my claim!
Is it your ambition to beat Arlen at any price, Troll?
He's doing what you apparently cannot:
Taking amusement out of something that he cannot change.
:-)
This is misc.phone.mobile.iphone not an amusement park.
Such OT-threads are destroying what is left of the Usenet.
More and more I get the impression that englishspeaking news groups are
a kind of a virtual nursing home for demented people.
Just taking some amusement out of this Troll-thread.
On 01/13/2026 01:53, J||rg Lorenz wrote:
More and more I get the impression that englishspeaking news groups are
a kind of a virtual nursing home for demented people.
Just taking some amusement out of this Troll-thread.
When was the last time you provided a discussion topic? Never!
Your entire purpose here is to berate others so you can feel good about yourself.
On 13.01.26 12:16, badgolferman wrote:
On 01/13/2026 01:53, J||rg Lorenz wrote:
More and more I get the impression that englishspeaking news groups are
a kind of a virtual nursing home for demented people.
Just taking some amusement out of this Troll-thread.
When was the last time you provided a discussion topic? Never!
Your entire purpose here is to berate others so you can feel good about
yourself.
Feel better now? You are the one that keeps this antisocial figure
"Arlen" alive. You are definitely the leader of the nursing home.
Why should I ever start a thread or a topic in this group where almost everything is spam or fanboy noise? AI works faster and more accurate.
On 2026-01-12 22:18, J||rg Lorenz wrote:
On 13.01.26 01:31, Tyrone wrote:
We all know the Sun rises in the West. My question is WHY does it rise in the
West, not HOW.
Here are my links that prove The Sun rises in the West:
<https://www.thesun.co.uk>
<https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/37890247/brooklyn-beckham-nicola-peltz-birthday/>
<https://www.thesun.co.uk/health/37892058/nhs-four-hospital-trusts-surge-no-beds/>
See? All links to The Sun! I have proved my claim!
Is it your ambition to beat Arlen at any price, Troll?
He's doing what you apparently cannot:
Taking amusement out of something that he cannot change.
:-)
On Jan 13, 2026 at 1:23:51rC>AM EST, "Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2026-01-12 22:18, J||rg Lorenz wrote:
On 13.01.26 01:31, Tyrone wrote:
We all know the Sun rises in the West. My question is WHY does it rise in the
West, not HOW.
Here are my links that prove The Sun rises in the West:
<https://www.thesun.co.uk>
<https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/37890247/brooklyn-beckham-nicola-peltz-birthday/>
<https://www.thesun.co.uk/health/37892058/nhs-four-hospital-trusts-surge-no-beds/>
See? All links to The Sun! I have proved my claim!
Is it your ambition to beat Arlen at any price, Troll?
He's doing what you apparently cannot:
Taking amusement out of something that he cannot change.
:-)
The point of this topic is that this illustrates a typical Arlen thread. Start with an absurd premise, link to random web pages that do not support the
absurd premise, CLAIM that the websites support the absurd premise and then attack everyone who points out the obvious.
Over and over and over.
On 01/13/2026 09:09, Tyrone wrote:
On Jan 13, 2026 at 1:23:51rC>AM EST, "Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2026-01-12 22:18, J||rg Lorenz wrote:
On 13.01.26 01:31, Tyrone wrote:
We all know the Sun rises in the West. My question is WHY does it rise in the
West, not HOW.
Here are my links that prove The Sun rises in the West:
<https://www.thesun.co.uk>
<https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/37890247/brooklyn-beckham-nicola-peltz-birthday/>
<https://www.thesun.co.uk/health/37892058/nhs-four-hospital-trusts-surge-no-beds/>
See? All links to The Sun! I have proved my claim!
Is it your ambition to beat Arlen at any price, Troll?
He's doing what you apparently cannot:
Taking amusement out of something that he cannot change.
:-)
The point of this topic is that this illustrates a typical Arlen thread.
Start with an absurd premise, link to random web pages that do not support the
absurd premise, CLAIM that the websites support the absurd premise and then >> attack everyone who points out the obvious.
Over and over and over.
I thought your OP was funny!
Tyrone wrote:
My question is WHY
If we don't ask probing questions of why Apple does what it does,
then we will never be able to discuss Apple products intelligently.
My question is WHY
If we don't ask probing questions of why Apple does what it does,
Asking why is pointless with Apple.
Asking why requires insight in a
person's or organisation motivation and without being able to interrogate them we only have speculation. Apple a almost never explains any of its decision making.
This is why you get into these massive circular arguments.
then we will never be able to discuss Apple products intelligently.
There's plenty that can be discussed without asking why nor needing to
troll. Just look at reddit.
On Jan 12, 2026 at 8:22:16rC>PM EST, "Maria Sophia" <mariasophia@comprehension.com> wrote:
Tyrone wrote:
My question is WHY
If we don't ask probing questions of why Apple does what it does,
then we will never be able to discuss Apple products intelligently.
But you have establish that something is actually happening before you can ask
WHY it is happening. You never do that. You STILL have not proven that iOS requires multiple daily logins. I am certainly NOT seeing that.
Which is why you never discuss Apple products intelligently. You make a claim,
never back it up and then wonder why we all say you are lying again.
This is misc.phone.mobile.iphone not an amusement park.
Such OT-threads are destroying what is left of the Usenet.
More and more I get the impression that englishspeaking news groups are
a kind of a virtual nursing home for demented people.
Just taking some amusement out of this Troll-thread.
When was the last time you provided a discussion topic? Never!
Your entire purpose here is to berate others so you can feel good about yourself.
On Jan 13, 2026 at 9:10:49rC>AM EST, "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
On 01/13/2026 09:09, Tyrone wrote:
On Jan 13, 2026 at 1:23:51rC>AM EST, "Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2026-01-12 22:18, J||rg Lorenz wrote:
On 13.01.26 01:31, Tyrone wrote:
We all know the Sun rises in the West. My question is WHY does it rise in the
West, not HOW.
Here are my links that prove The Sun rises in the West:
<https://www.thesun.co.uk>
<https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/37890247/brooklyn-beckham-nicola-peltz-birthday/>
<https://www.thesun.co.uk/health/37892058/nhs-four-hospital-trusts-surge-no-beds/>
See? All links to The Sun! I have proved my claim!
Is it your ambition to beat Arlen at any price, Troll?
He's doing what you apparently cannot:
Taking amusement out of something that he cannot change.
:-)
The point of this topic is that this illustrates a typical Arlen thread. >>> Start with an absurd premise, link to random web pages that do not support the
absurd premise, CLAIM that the websites support the absurd premise and then >>> attack everyone who points out the obvious.
Over and over and over.
I thought your OP was funny!
It was supposed to be.
Wish me luck in improving the content of this newsgroup.
On 01/13/2026 11:38, Maria Sophia wrote:
Wish me luck in improving the content of this newsgroup.
Good luck. That will only happen when people stop being so defensive
all the time. And people become defensive (and offensive) when they
have something to hide.
On 01/13/2026 07:58, J||rg Lorenz wrote:
On 13.01.26 12:16, badgolferman wrote:
On 01/13/2026 01:53, J||rg Lorenz wrote:
More and more I get the impression that englishspeaking news groups are >>>> a kind of a virtual nursing home for demented people.
Just taking some amusement out of this Troll-thread.
When was the last time you provided a discussion topic? Never!
Your entire purpose here is to berate others so you can feel good about
yourself.
Feel better now? You are the one that keeps this antisocial figure
"Arlen" alive. You are definitely the leader of the nursing home.
Why should I ever start a thread or a topic in this group where almost
everything is spam or fanboy noise? AI works faster and more accurate.
What is your purpose here?
On 2026-01-13 05:06, badgolferman wrote:
On 01/13/2026 07:58, J||rg Lorenz wrote:
On 13.01.26 12:16, badgolferman wrote:
On 01/13/2026 01:53, J||rg Lorenz wrote:
More and more I get the impression that englishspeaking news groups are >>>>> a kind of a virtual nursing home for demented people.
Just taking some amusement out of this Troll-thread.
When was the last time you provided a discussion topic? Never!
Your entire purpose here is to berate others so you can feel good about >>>> yourself.
Feel better now? You are the one that keeps this antisocial figure
"Arlen" alive. You are definitely the leader of the nursing home.
Why should I ever start a thread or a topic in this group where almost
everything is spam or fanboy noise? AI works faster and more accurate.
What is your purpose here?
What is yours?
I don't see you start many threads.
I don't see you start many threads.
He mostly just pops into threads to defend Arlen's weak trolls.
Jolly Roger wrote:
I don't see you start many threads.
He mostly just pops into threads to defend Arlen's weak trolls.
Hi Jolly Roger,
Happy New Year!
Since we all want this newsgroup content to improve in 2026, I applaud
Tyrone stepping up in this thread to poignantly openly ask why should we
even try to understand how iOS works or why Apple does what it does.
What is yours?
I don't see you start many threads.
He mostly just pops into threads to defend Arlen's weak trolls.
Alan knows full well I have started numerous conversations asking how
to do something or why did something change on my phone. And of course
there are all the Apple/iPhone news articles I post.
As for Jolly Roger's assertion, I don't take anything Arlen says
personally like the rest of you do. When he's pointing out flaws in
the iPhone, for some reason you people act like he's pointing out flaws
in your child or wife and come after him with (figurative) knives. He
states his case, he gets attacked, he comes back at you. And now in
2026 he has admirably refrained from retaliating at all. Maybe the
rest of you could act like rational human beings too.
I doubt that would happen though. Alan is the classic definition of a
troll who gets bored and tries to needle people to get a reaction.
Jolly Roger reminds me of Trump, just a nasty person who never learned
any tact or manners. Tyrone takes everything personally and must get
the last word. Lorenz is from another planet. Chris is level-headed
and the best hope for restoring civility to these conversations.
Jolly Roger wrote:
What is yours?
I don't see you start many threads.
He mostly just pops into threads to defend Arlen's weak trolls.
Speaking of trolls, it looks like Alan and Jolly Roger have joined the conversation.
Alan knows full well I have started numerous conversations asking how
to do something or why did something change on my phone. And of course
there are all the Apple/iPhone news articles I post.
As for Jolly Roger's assertion, I don't take anything Arlen says
personally like the rest of you do. When he's pointing out flaws in
the iPhone, for some reason you people act like he's pointing out flaws
in your child or wife and come after him with (figurative) knives. He
states his case, he gets attacked, he comes back at you. And now in
2026 he has admirably refrained from retaliating at all. Maybe the
rest of you could act like rational human beings too.
I doubt that would happen though. Alan is the classic definition of aAnd you've added SO much civility with this reply!
troll who gets bored and tries to needle people to get a reaction.
Jolly Roger reminds me of Trump, just a nasty person who never learned
any tact or manners. Tyrone takes everything personally and must get
the last word. Lorenz is from another planet. Chris is level-headed
and the best hope for restoring civility to these conversations.
Jolly Roger wrote:
What is yours?
I don't see you start many threads.
He mostly just pops into threads to defend Arlen's weak trolls.
Speaking of trolls, it looks like Alan and Jolly Roger have joined the conversation.
Alan knows full well I have started numerous conversations asking how
to do something or why did something change on my phone. And of course
there are all the Apple/iPhone news articles I post.
As for Jolly Roger's assertion, I don't take anything Arlen says
personally like the rest of you do. When he's pointing out flaws in
the iPhone, for some reason you people act like he's pointing out flaws
in your child or wife and come after him with (figurative) knives.
If Arlen would point out ACTUAL flaws, we could discuss them like adults. But there is nothing to "discuss" in these childish threads that he starts, other than (1) Why Is Arlen Always Lying and (2) to prove him wrong. Again.
The real question is, Why is Arlen so obsessed with Apple?
Tyrone <none@none.none> wrote:
If Arlen would point out ACTUAL flaws, we could discuss them like adults. But
there is nothing to "discuss" in these childish threads that he starts, other
than (1) Why Is Arlen Always Lying and (2) to prove him wrong. Again.
The real question is, Why is Arlen so obsessed with Apple?
To me the real question is, why do you care so much what Arlen says?
Tyrone <none@none.none> wrote:
If Arlen would point out ACTUAL flaws, we could discuss them like adults. But
there is nothing to "discuss" in these childish threads that he starts, other
than (1) Why Is Arlen Always Lying and (2) to prove him wrong. Again.
The real question is, Why is Arlen so obsessed with Apple?
To me the real question is, why do you care so much what Arlen says?
On 2026-01-14 19:17, badgolferman wrote:
Tyrone <none@none.none> wrote:
If Arlen would point out ACTUAL flaws, we could discuss them like adults. But
there is nothing to "discuss" in these childish threads that he starts, other
than (1) Why Is Arlen Always Lying and (2) to prove him wrong. Again.
The real question is, Why is Arlen so obsessed with Apple?
To me the real question is, why do you care so much what Arlen says?
To me the real question is:
Why do you suck up to him, Quisling?
On Jan 14, 2026 at 10:17:24rC>PM EST, "badgolferman" ><REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
Tyrone <none@none.none> wrote:
If Arlen would point out ACTUAL flaws, we could discuss them
like adults. But there is nothing to "discuss" in these childish
threads that he starts, other than (1) Why Is Arlen Always Lying
and (2) to prove him wrong. Again.
The real question is, Why is Arlen so obsessed with Apple?
To me the real question is, why do you care so much what Arlen
says?
Only because he is constantly lying. I don't tolerate lies and liars. >Particularly when he provides the links the prove him to be wrong.
Why do you always defend him?
Jolly Roger wrote:
What is yours?
I don't see you start many threads.
He mostly just pops into threads to defend Arlen's weak trolls.
Speaking of trolls, it looks like Alan and Jolly Roger have joined the conversation.
Alan knows full well I have started numerous conversations asking how
to do something or why did something change on my phone. And of
course there are all the Apple/iPhone news articles I post.
As for Jolly Roger's assertion, I don't take anything Arlen says
personally
When he's pointing out flaws in the iPhone, for some reason you people
act like he's pointing out flaws in your child or wife and come after
him with (figurative) knives.
He states his case, he gets attacked
he comes back at you.
And now in 2026 he has admirably refrained from retaliating at all.
Maybe the rest of you could act like rational human beings too.
I doubt that would happen though. Alan is the classic definition of a
troll who gets bored and tries to needle people to get a reaction.
Jolly Roger reminds me of Trump, just a nasty person who never learned
any tact or manners. Tyrone takes everything personally and must get
the last word. Lorenz is from another planet. Chris is level-headed
and the best hope for restoring civility to these conversations.
Tyrone <none@none.none> wrote:
If Arlen would point out ACTUAL flaws, we could discuss them like
adults. But there is nothing to "discuss" in these childish threads
that he starts, other than (1) Why Is Arlen Always Lying and (2) to
prove him wrong. Again.
The real question is, Why is Arlen so obsessed with Apple?
To me the real question is, why do you care so much what Arlen says?
Tyrone wrote:
On Jan 14, 2026 at 10:17:24rC>PM EST, "badgolferman" >><REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
Tyrone <none@none.none> wrote:
If Arlen would point out ACTUAL flaws, we could discuss them
like adults. But there is nothing to "discuss" in these childish
threads that he starts, other than (1) Why Is Arlen Always Lying
and (2) to prove him wrong. Again. The real question is, Why is
Arlen so obsessed with Apple?
To me the real question is, why do you care so much what Arlen
says?
Only because he is constantly lying. I don't tolerate lies and liars.
Particularly when he provides the links the prove him to be wrong.
Why do you always defend him?
Arlen doesn't need me to defend him.i
I'm merely pointing out the hive mentality and lack of objectivity
when it comes to Apple products.
Maybe if you would stop reacting so viscerally each time you see his
name, you'd become a bit more openminded.
On Jan 14, 2026 at 6:27:53rC>PM EST, ""badgolferman"" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
Jolly Roger wrote:
What is yours?
I don't see you start many threads.
He mostly just pops into threads to defend Arlen's weak trolls.
Speaking of trolls, it looks like Alan and Jolly Roger have joined the
conversation.
Alan knows full well I have started numerous conversations asking how
to do something or why did something change on my phone. And of course
there are all the Apple/iPhone news articles I post.
As for Jolly Roger's assertion, I don't take anything Arlen says
personally like the rest of you do. When he's pointing out flaws in
the iPhone, for some reason you people act like he's pointing out flaws
in your child or wife and come after him with (figurative) knives.
But he is always pointing out imaginary flaws. Look at his topics:
"Why does Apple put crappy batteries in iPhones?". They don't. They get to use
smaller (and lighter) batteries that make the phone that much more attractive.
And - as pointed out multiple times - iPhones with smaller batteries run longer than Android phones with larger batteries. Because efficiency.
"Why does iOS make you login every day?". It doesn't. No one here has seen this. Arlen has yet to prove this is actually happening. NONE of the links he has supplied supports his claims about tokens. Again.
"Apple pleads guilty in France, pays $27 million fine". Never happened. France OFFERED TO SETTLE, and Apple agreed. Since the case was settled out of court, no one "plead guilty" to anything. This was noted in the link that HE provided. BTW, in any legal action, when the plaintiff offers to settle that tells you all you need to know about their chances of winning if it goes to court.
"Why is iOS so insecure?" It isn't. As DOZENS of links prove, iOS is WAY less likely to get malware than Android. Some of these links were links that HE provided.
"Why does Apple not provide 'Industry Standard' audio jacks and SD card slots". Both were industry standards 15 years ago. Today, less than half of phones sold have either. An "industry standard" is something that ALL phones have. Like Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, touch screens, cameras, GPS.
"It is impossible to get a photo from a Windows PC to an iPhone without using Apple's servers". In which we taught Arlen all about networking and the Files app. We even mentioned the SMB Server app for iOS.
That led to "iOS can't possibly run an SMB Server because Android can't". In which we PROVED him wrong on that too. He actually accused us of making all of
this up. Meanwhile he was "furiously Googling" in his pathetic attempt to prove us wrong. It never occurred to him to just INSTALL the SMB Server app and see for himself. "Scientist" indeed.
And on and on.
If Arlen would point out ACTUAL flaws, we could discuss them like adults. But there is nothing to "discuss" in these childish threads that he starts, other than (1) Why Is Arlen Always Lying and (2) to prove him wrong. Again.
The real question is, Why is Arlen so obsessed with Apple?
But this is the "Year of Maria" where my goal is to never respond to the taunts so as to always bring every thread back to the technical topic.
Without delving too deeply into personalities, many people seem to treat their choice of Apple products as part of their ego and identity.
That's OK. Usenet isn't for those with thin skins. I'm going to try to make mine even thicker this year, which is why I chose a female moniker in fact.
Women are often nicer to others, so it fits that I'm going to bend over backward to accept their viewpoint
and to counter only the technical
aspects (while ignoring being called all sorts of names by them).
It won't be easy.
But I think I can help drive the intellectual content of this ng up.
The real question is, Why is Arlen so obsessed with Apple?
To me the real question is, why do you care so much what Arlen says?
Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> wrote:
But this is the "Year of Maria" where my goal is to never respond to the
taunts so as to always bring every thread back to the technical topic.
Let's see how long a "year" lasts. You changed your nym several times last calendar year.
Without delving too deeply into personalities, many people seem to treat
their choice of Apple products as part of their ego and identity.
That's your bias. Not reality.
That's OK. Usenet isn't for those with thin skins. I'm going to try to make >> mine even thicker this year, which is why I chose a female moniker in fact.
Funny. You've always said your nyms are random. Another lie to add to the list.
Women are often nicer to others, so it fits that I'm going to bend over
backward to accept their viewpoint
Sexist much?!
and to counter only the technical
aspects (while ignoring being called all sorts of names by them).
You regularly ignore inconvenient facts. You would do well not to ignore anything and remove your blinkers.
It won't be easy.
But I think I can help drive the intellectual content of this ng up.
There's a very, very easy way to achieve that. You won't be able to work it out, however.
Only because he is constantly lying. I don't tolerate lies and liars. >>Particularly when he provides the links the prove him to be wrong.
Why do you always defend him?
Arlen doesn't need me to defend him. I'm merely pointing out the hive mentality and lack of objectivity when it comes to Apple products.
Maybe if you would stop reacting so viscerally each time you see his
name, you'd become a bit more openminded.
On 2026-01-15, badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
Tyrone wrote:
On Jan 14, 2026 at 10:17:24rC>PM EST, "badgolferman" >>><REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
Tyrone <none@none.none> wrote:
If Arlen would point out ACTUAL flaws, we could discuss them
like adults. But there is nothing to "discuss" in these childish
threads that he starts, other than (1) Why Is Arlen Always Lying
and (2) to prove him wrong. Again. The real question is, Why is
Arlen so obsessed with Apple?
To me the real question is, why do you care so much what Arlen
says?
Only because he is constantly lying. I don't tolerate lies and liars.
Particularly when he provides the links the prove him to be wrong.
Why do you always defend him?
Arlen doesn't need me to defend him.i
Notice the non-answer. Telling. 0a+0+e
I'm merely pointing out the hive mentality and lack of objectivity
when it comes to Apple products.
Nah, you're defending Arlen. Plain for everyone reading to see. You
aren't fooling anyone.
Maybe if you would stop reacting so viscerally each time you see his
name, you'd become a bit more openminded.
Or maybe Arlen should stop slinging schoolyard insults at everyone who corrects his lies. And maybe you should stop sucking up to him and
ignoring his bad behavior.
me the real question is, why do you care so much what Arlen says?
A more pertinent question is why you suck up to Arlen at every turn,
even after he literally impersonated your own nym multiple times here?
Don't bother answering. We all know it's because birds of a feather
flock together. You are a weak troll, just like little Arlen, only way weaker.
On 2026-01-14, badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
Jolly Roger wrote:
What is yours?
I don't see you start many threads.
He mostly just pops into threads to defend Arlen's weak trolls.
Speaking of trolls, it looks like Alan and Jolly Roger have joined the
conversation.
You claim anyone who calls Arlen out on his bullshit a "troll" - all
while defending Arlen. You are transparent.
Alan knows full well I have started numerous conversations asking how
to do something or why did something change on my phone. And of
course there are all the Apple/iPhone news articles I post.
Hardly numerous. Why lie so blatantly? That's a rhetorical question,
BTW. We all know the answer.
As for Jolly Roger's assertion, I don't take anything Arlen says
personally
I never claimed you take Arlen's posts personally.
Also, are you actually claiming you did not take Arlen impersonating
your nym over and over again right here in the Apple newsgroups
personally? Really?? REALLY?! Sure, Jan. 0a+0|u
When he's pointing out flaws in the iPhone, for some reason you people
act like he's pointing out flaws in your child or wife and come after
him with (figurative) knives.
Pure bullshit from a bullshitting troll.
Arlen lies constantly, and you call it "pointing out flaws".
He states his case, he gets attacked
Calling out lies and disinformation isn't being "attacked", child. You
trolls *always* claim you are the real victims, and you aren't fooling anyone.
he comes back at you.
Nah, he *constantly* slings schoolyard insults at Apple, Apple users,
and even non-Apple users who correct his lies. Your little make-believe
world is fake, and you aren't fooling anyone with your lies.
And now in 2026 he has admirably refrained from retaliating at all.
Bullshit. In this very thread, Arlen is slinging the same schoolyard
insults around.
Maybe the rest of you could act like rational human beings too.
Maybe you should suck Arlen's dingaling a little harder. He's not there
yet.
I doubt that would happen though. Alan is the classic definition of a
troll who gets bored and tries to needle people to get a reaction.
Jolly Roger reminds me of Trump, just a nasty person who never learned
any tact or manners. Tyrone takes everything personally and must get
the last word. Lorenz is from another planet. Chris is level-headed
and the best hope for restoring civility to these conversations.
You're chock full of shit. And you support everything Arlen does,
without question. You even gleefully forgave him after you caught him impersonating your nym over and over right in the Apple news groups.
You're a pushover and a weak troll.
Tyrone wrote:
On Jan 14, 2026 at 10:17:24rC>PM EST, "badgolferman"
<REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
Tyrone <none@none.none> wrote:
If Arlen would point out ACTUAL flaws, we could discuss them
like adults. But there is nothing to "discuss" in these childish
threads that he starts, other than (1) Why Is Arlen Always Lying
and (2) to prove him wrong. Again.
The real question is, Why is Arlen so obsessed with Apple?
To me the real question is, why do you care so much what Arlen
says?
Only because he is constantly lying. I don't tolerate lies and liars.
Particularly when he provides the links the prove him to be wrong.
Why do you always defend him?
Arlen doesn't need me to defend him. I'm merely pointing out the hive mentality and lack of objectivity when it comes to Apple products.
Maybe if you would stop reacting so viscerally each time you see his
name, you'd become a bit more openminded.
You're chock full of shit. And you support everything Arlen does,
without question. You even gleefully forgave him after you caught him impersonating your nym over and over right in the Apple news groups.
Tyrone wrote:
On Jan 14, 2026 at 10:17:24rC>PM EST, "badgolferman"
<REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
Tyrone <none@none.none> wrote:
If Arlen would point out ACTUAL flaws, we could discuss them
like adults. But there is nothing to "discuss" in these childish
threads that he starts, other than (1) Why Is Arlen Always Lying
and (2) to prove him wrong. Again.
The real question is, Why is Arlen so obsessed with Apple?
To me the real question is, why do you care so much what Arlen
says?
Only because he is constantly lying. I don't tolerate lies and liars.
Particularly when he provides the links the prove him to be wrong.
Why do you always defend him?
Arlen doesn't need me to defend him.
I'm merely pointing out the hiveMaybe if he didn't behave like a narcissistic asshole who starts calling people names at the drop of a hat...
mentality and lack of objectivity when it comes to Apple products.
Maybe if you would stop reacting so viscerally each time you see his
name, you'd become a bit more openminded.
Jolly Roger wrote:
me the real question is, why do you care so much what Arlen says?Hi Jolly Roger,
A more pertinent question is why you suck up to Arlen at every turn,
even after he literally impersonated your own nym multiple times here?
Don't bother answering. We all know it's because birds of a feather
flock together. You are a weak troll, just like little Arlen, only way
weaker.
I've studied you far more than I've studied Tyrone,
badgolferman wrote:
The real question is, Why is Arlen so obsessed with Apple?
To me the real question is, why do you care so much what Arlen says?
Hi badgolferman,
There is something VERY IMPORTANT that will answer that question!
I see it blatantly, since Tyrone is very severely misquoting my statements.
Hence, the very real question to ponder isn't so much why he cares what anyone says, but why he is so very angry about his own subjective feelings.
For example, in our latest discussion about Apple's criminal history, I
never even once said Apple plead guilty because they settled with the Paris prosecutor's office (and I shared cites for that criminal settlement).
badgolferman wrote:'Apple admitted so in the criminal case in France, for which they plead
The real question is, Why is Arlen so obsessed with Apple?
To me the real question is, why do you care so much what Arlen says?
Hi badgolferman,
There is something VERY IMPORTANT that will answer that question!
I see it blatantly, since Tyrone is very severely misquoting my statements.
Hence, the very real question to ponder isn't so much why he cares what anyone says, but why he is so very angry about his own subjective feelings.
For example, in our latest discussion about Apple's criminal history, I
never even once said Apple plead guilty because they settled with the Paris prosecutor's office (and I shared cites for that criminal settlement).
badgolferman wrote:statements.
The real question is, Why is Arlen so obsessed with Apple?
To me the real question is, why do you care so much what Arlen says?
Hi badgolferman,
There is something VERY IMPORTANT that will answer that question!
I see it blatantly, since Tyrone is very severely misquoting my
Hence, the very real question to ponder isn't so much why he cares what anyone says, but why he is so very angry about his own subjectivefeelings.
For example, in our latest discussion about Apple's criminal history, I never even once said Apple plead guilty because they settled with theParis
prosecutor's office (and I shared cites for that criminal settlement).'Apple admitted so in the criminal case in France, for which they plead
Arlen doesn't need me to defend him. I'm merely pointing out the hive
mentality and lack of objectivity when it comes to Apple products.
Maybe if you would stop reacting so viscerally each time you see his
name, you'd become a bit more openminded.
The "hive mentality" is you and Arlen.
Multiple people pointing out absurd, EASILY DISPROVED lies is hardly a "hive".
AGAIN, if Arlen would talk about an actual problem with iPhones - instead of making up problems - then no one would be "attacking" him.
ALL of these Arlen topics were utter bullshit:
"Why does Apple put crappy batteries in iPhones?". They don't. They get to use
smaller (and lighter) batteries that make the phone that much more attractive.
And - as pointed out multiple times - iPhones with smaller batteries run longer than Android phones with larger batteries. Because efficiency.
"Why does iOS make you login every day?". It doesn't. No one here has seen this. Arlen has yet to prove this is actually happening. NONE of the links he has supplied supports his claims about tokens. Again.
"Apple pleads guilty in France, pays $27 million fine". Never happened. France OFFERED TO SETTLE, and Apple agreed. Since the case was settled out of court, no one "plead guilty" to anything. This was noted in the link that HE provided. BTW, in any legal action, when the plaintiff offers to settle that tells you all you need to know about their chances of winning if it goes to court.
"Why is iOS so insecure?" It isn't. As DOZENS of links prove, iOS is WAY less likely to get malware than Android. Some of these links were links that HE provided.
"Why does Apple not provide 'Industry Standard' audio jacks and SD card slots". Both were industry standards 15 years ago. Today, less than half of phones sold have either. An "industry standard" is something that ALL phones have. Like Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, touch screens, cameras, GPS.
"It is impossible to get a photo from a Windows PC to an iPhone without using Apple's servers". In which we taught Arlen all about networking and the Files app. We even mentioned the SMB Server app for iOS.
That led to "iOS can't possibly run an SMB Server because Android can't". In which we PROVED him wrong on that too. He actually accused us of making all of
this up. Meanwhile he was "furiously Googling" in his pathetic attempt to prove us wrong. It never occurred to him to just INSTALL the SMB Server app and see for himself. "Scientist" indeed.
That you conveniently snipped them and made NO comment about them speaks volumes.
You're chock full of shit. And you support everything Arlen does,
without question. You even gleefully forgave him after you caught him
impersonating your nym over and over right in the Apple news groups.
This is why is still believe that Arlen and Badgolferman are the same person.
I also remember when Arlen got tossed off of whatever news server he was using. Or the service went down for a couple weeks. Whatever the reason. But someone (I don't remember who) pointed out that "badgolferman" was seen on other newsgroups asking about replacement news servers.
Now WHY would "badgolferman" be doing that? They are either (1) the same person or (2) are friends and are tag-teaming each other here.
Because Trolls Gotta Troll.
(Apologies for the double post to m.p.m.iphone, but I thought this
deserved wider play)
So he can always claim that something he said while writing under a
different nym wasn't actually him.
On 2026-01-15 12:14, Maria Sophia wrote:
badgolferman wrote:statements.
The real question is, Why is Arlen so obsessed with Apple?
To me the real question is, why do you care so much what Arlen says?
Hi badgolferman,
There is something VERY IMPORTANT that will answer that question!
I see it blatantly, since Tyrone is very severely misquoting my
feelings.
Hence, the very real question to ponder isn't so much why he cares what
anyone says, but why he is so very angry about his own subjective
Paris
For example, in our latest discussion about Apple's criminal history, I
never even once said Apple plead guilty because they settled with the
prosecutor's office (and I shared cites for that criminal settlement).'Apple admitted so in the criminal case in France, for which they plead guilty and for which Apple paid the _criminal_ fine.'
<https://groups.google.com/g/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/c/4rHfo2kyeZI/m/e19D0R8UCgAJ>
For battery capacity, I have said many times that iPhones have small'ish battery capacity, where only recently has it grown much near the average
for flagship Androids but it's still well below even my free iPhones.
Maria Sophia wrote:
For battery capacity, I have said many times that iPhones have small'ish
battery capacity, where only recently has it grown much near the average
for flagship Androids but it's still well below even my free iPhones.
Thinko. Lest people argue, I meant my free Androids, not free iPhones.
All of which are 5AH capacity as I have stated that capacity is a critical starting point for any battery as it's one of the standard measurements.
So before anyone responds to his fabrications above, we should all just sit back, and calmly await Tyrone backing up his claims above with message IDs.
Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2026-01-15, badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
Tyrone wrote:
On Jan 14, 2026 at 10:17:24rC>PM EST, "badgolferman" >>>><REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
Tyrone <none@none.none> wrote:
If Arlen would point out ACTUAL flaws, we could discuss them
like adults. But there is nothing to "discuss" in these childish
threads that he starts, other than (1) Why Is Arlen Always Lying
and (2) to prove him wrong. Again. The real question is, Why is >>>>>> Arlen so obsessed with Apple?
To me the real question is, why do you care so much what Arlen
says?
Only because he is constantly lying. I don't tolerate lies and liars.
Particularly when he provides the links the prove him to be wrong.
Why do you always defend him?
Arlen doesn't need me to defend him.i
Notice the non-answer. Telling. 0a+0+e
I'm merely pointing out the hive mentality and lack of objectivity
when it comes to Apple products.
Nah, you're defending Arlen. Plain for everyone reading to see. You
aren't fooling anyone.
Maybe if you would stop reacting so viscerally each time you see his
name, you'd become a bit more openminded.
Or maybe Arlen should stop slinging schoolyard insults at everyone who
corrects his lies. And maybe you should stop sucking up to him and
ignoring his bad behavior.
Hi Jolly Roger,
This is an important thread
Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2026-01-14, badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
Jolly Roger wrote:
What is yours?
I don't see you start many threads.
He mostly just pops into threads to defend Arlen's weak trolls.
Speaking of trolls, it looks like Alan and Jolly Roger have joined the
conversation.
You claim anyone who calls Arlen out on his bullshit a "troll" - all
while defending Arlen. You are transparent.
Alan knows full well I have started numerous conversations asking how
to do something or why did something change on my phone. And of
course there are all the Apple/iPhone news articles I post.
Hardly numerous. Why lie so blatantly? That's a rhetorical question,
BTW. We all know the answer.
As for Jolly Roger's assertion, I don't take anything Arlen says
personally
I never claimed you take Arlen's posts personally.
Also, are you actually claiming you did not take Arlen impersonating
your nym over and over again right here in the Apple newsgroups
personally? Really?? REALLY?! Sure, Jan. 0a+0|u
When he's pointing out flaws in the iPhone, for some reason you people
act like he's pointing out flaws in your child or wife and come after
him with (figurative) knives.
Pure bullshit from a bullshitting troll.
Arlen lies constantly, and you call it "pointing out flaws".
He states his case, he gets attacked
Calling out lies and disinformation isn't being "attacked", child. You
trolls *always* claim you are the real victims, and you aren't fooling
anyone.
he comes back at you.
Nah, he *constantly* slings schoolyard insults at Apple, Apple users,
and even non-Apple users who correct his lies. Your little make-believe
world is fake, and you aren't fooling anyone with your lies.
And now in 2026 he has admirably refrained from retaliating at all.
Bullshit. In this very thread, Arlen is slinging the same schoolyard
insults around.
Maybe the rest of you could act like rational human beings too.
Maybe you should suck Arlen's dingaling a little harder. He's not there
yet.
I doubt that would happen though. Alan is the classic definition of a
troll who gets bored and tries to needle people to get a reaction.
Jolly Roger reminds me of Trump, just a nasty person who never learned
any tact or manners. Tyrone takes everything personally and must get
the last word. Lorenz is from another planet. Chris is level-headed
and the best hope for restoring civility to these conversations.
You're chock full of shit. And you support everything Arlen does,
without question. You even gleefully forgave him after you caught him
impersonating your nym over and over right in the Apple news groups.
You're a pushover and a weak troll.
Hi Jolly Roger,
Let's try to steer this blah blah blah
Tyrone wrote:
You're chock full of shit. And you support everything Arlen does,
without question. You even gleefully forgave him after you caught him
impersonating your nym over and over right in the Apple news groups.
This is why is still believe that Arlen and Badgolferman are the same person.
I also remember when Arlen got tossed off of whatever news server he was
using. Or the service went down for a couple weeks. Whatever the reason. But
someone (I don't remember who) pointed out that "badgolferman" was seen on >> other newsgroups asking about replacement news servers.
Now WHY would "badgolferman" be doing that? They are either (1) the same
person or (2) are friends and are tag-teaming each other here.
Because Trolls Gotta Troll.
Let's all get back to the topic at handi
On 2026-01-15 08:22, badgolferman wrote:
Tyrone wrote:
On Jan 14, 2026 at 10:17:24rC>PM EST, "badgolferman"
<REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
Tyrone <none@none.none> wrote:
If Arlen would point out ACTUAL flaws, we could discuss them like
adults. But there is nothing to "discuss" in these childish
threads that he starts, other than (1) Why Is Arlen Always Lying
and (2) to prove him wrong. Again. The real question is, Why is
Arlen so obsessed with Apple?
To me the real question is, why do you care so much what Arlen
says?
Only because he is constantly lying. I don't tolerate lies and
liars. Particularly when he provides the links the prove him to be
wrong.
Why do you always defend him?
Arlen doesn't need me to defend him.
And yet you do, Quisling.
On Jan 15, 2026 at 2:32:55rC>PM EST, "Jolly Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
You're chock full of shit. And you support everything Arlen does,
without question. You even gleefully forgave him after you caught him
impersonating your nym over and over right in the Apple news groups.
This is why is still believe that Arlen and Badgolferman are the same person.
I also remember when Arlen got tossed off of whatever news server he was using. Or the service went down for a couple weeks. Whatever the reason. But someone (I don't remember who) pointed out that "badgolferman" was seen on other newsgroups asking about replacement news servers.
Now WHY would "badgolferman" be doing that? They are either (1) the same person or (2) are friends and are tag-teaming each other here.
Because Trolls Gotta Troll.
Tyrone <none@none.none> wrote:
On Jan 15, 2026 at 2:32:55rC>PM EST, "Jolly Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
You're chock full of shit. And you support everything Arlen does,
without question. You even gleefully forgave him after you caught him
impersonating your nym over and over right in the Apple news groups.
This is why is still believe that Arlen and Badgolferman are the same person.
I also remember when Arlen got tossed off of whatever news server he was >> using. Or the service went down for a couple weeks. Whatever the reason. But
someone (I don't remember who) pointed out that "badgolferman" was seen on >> other newsgroups asking about replacement news servers.
Now WHY would "badgolferman" be doing that? They are either (1) the same
person or (2) are friends and are tag-teaming each other here.
Because Trolls Gotta Troll.
Really Tyrone? Just that you think this shows your paranoia is boundless. Even Lorenz is more reasonable than you.
Maria Sophia wrote:
So before anyone responds to his fabrications above, we should all just sit >> back, and calmly await Tyrone backing up his claims above with message IDs.
And with respect to Apple settling the criminal case, here is the summary
of everything that I know about the criminal case settlement with Apple.
From: Marian <marianjones@helpfulpeople.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,misc.phone.mobile.iphone
Subject: Clarifying the Nature of Apple's French Criminal Settlement
Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2025 20:01:46 -0700
Message-ID: <10iacar$2c07$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
That is the most recent summary of what I know about Apple's criminal involvement in that criminal case which Apple settled with the prosecutor.
Anything older is meaningless in terms of the latest information that we
have concerning Apple's settlement with the Paris prosecutor's office.
On Jan 15, 2026 at 6:04:23rC>PM EST, "Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
(Apologies for the double post to m.p.m.iphone, but I thought this
deserved wider play)
So he can always claim that something he said while writing under a
different nym wasn't actually him.
On 2026-01-15 12:14, Maria Sophia wrote:
badgolferman wrote:statements.
The real question is, Why is Arlen so obsessed with Apple?
To me the real question is, why do you care so much what Arlen says?
Hi badgolferman,
There is something VERY IMPORTANT that will answer that question!
I see it blatantly, since Tyrone is very severely misquoting my
feelings.
Hence, the very real question to ponder isn't so much why he cares what
anyone says, but why he is so very angry about his own subjective
Paris
For example, in our latest discussion about Apple's criminal history, I
never even once said Apple plead guilty because they settled with the
prosecutor's office (and I shared cites for that criminal settlement).'Apple admitted so in the criminal case in France, for which they plead
guilty and for which Apple paid the _criminal_ fine.'
<https://groups.google.com/g/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/c/4rHfo2kyeZI/m/e19D0R8UCgAJ>
Ah yes. OF COURSE.
Because Trolls Gotta Troll.
This is an important thread
No it's not.
Jolly Roger wrote:
This is an important thread
No it's not.
Hi Jolly Roger,
I think it's important to help Tyrone understand his own feelings of
betrayal since his emotions are clearly based on his own distortions.
For example, in the most recent thread I authored on summarizing what we
know about Apple's settlement of the criminal case against them, I clearly explained EXACTLY what Apple was required to do in that criminal case.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,misc.phone.mobile.iphone
Subject: Clarifying the Nature of Apple's French Criminal Settlement
Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2025 20:01:46 -0700
Message-ID: <10iacar$2c07$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
It's clear how Apple settled that criminal case against them, both by
making monetary settlements and behavioral changes forced upon them.
Yet, for some reason, Tyrone is apparently beside himself in anger that he feels that recent summary says things which are never said in that summary.
Everything Tyrone claimed he was incensed about, was a similar distortion.
Hence, I don't blame Tyrone for being incensed at his own distortions.
But what I think we need to do to help him is ask why, feeling so
aggrieved, he first distorted the facts he then felt so aggrieved about.
Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> wrote:
Jolly Roger wrote:
This is an important thread
No it's not.
Hi Jolly Roger,
I think it's important to help Tyrone understand his own feelings of
betrayal since his emotions are clearly based on his own distortions.
For example, in the most recent thread I authored on summarizing what we
know about Apple's settlement of the criminal case against them, I clearly >> explained EXACTLY what Apple was required to do in that criminal case.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,misc.phone.mobile.iphone
Subject: Clarifying the Nature of Apple's French Criminal Settlement
Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2025 20:01:46 -0700
Message-ID: <10iacar$2c07$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
It's clear how Apple settled that criminal case against them, both by
making monetary settlements and behavioral changes forced upon them.
Yet, for some reason, Tyrone is apparently beside himself in anger that he >> feels that recent summary says things which are never said in that summary. >>
Everything Tyrone claimed he was incensed about, was a similar distortion. >>
Hence, I don't blame Tyrone for being incensed at his own distortions.
But what I think we need to do to help him is ask why, feeling so
aggrieved, he first distorted the facts he then felt so aggrieved about.
I wonder why Tyrone wonrCOt respond to your description of his statement. Someone is clearly wrong, but whom?
Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> wrote:
Jolly Roger wrote:
This is an important thread
No it's not.
Hi Jolly Roger,
I think it's important to help Tyrone understand his own feelings of
betrayal since his emotions are clearly based on his own distortions.
For example, in the most recent thread I authored on summarizing what we
know about Apple's settlement of the criminal case against them, I clearly >> explained EXACTLY what Apple was required to do in that criminal case.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,misc.phone.mobile.iphone
Subject: Clarifying the Nature of Apple's French Criminal Settlement
Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2025 20:01:46 -0700
Message-ID: <10iacar$2c07$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
It's clear how Apple settled that criminal case against them, both by
making monetary settlements and behavioral changes forced upon them.
Yet, for some reason, Tyrone is apparently beside himself in anger that he >> feels that recent summary says things which are never said in that summary. >>
Everything Tyrone claimed he was incensed about, was a similar distortion. >>
Hence, I don't blame Tyrone for being incensed at his own distortions.
But what I think we need to do to help him is ask why, feeling so
aggrieved, he first distorted the facts he then felt so aggrieved about.
I wonder why Tyrone wonrCOt respond to your description of his statement. Someone is clearly wrong, but whom?
But what I think we need to do to help him is ask why, feeling so
aggrieved, he first distorted the facts he then felt so aggrieved about.
I wonder why Tyrone won't respond to your description of his statement. Someone is clearly wrong, but whom?
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